Finding your Maximum Testosterone Dosage | John Jewett & Luke Miller | J3U

[@FouadAbiad]

The J3U podcast will now be part of FAM, hope you guys enjoy the new addition to the channel. John and Luke have a lot of knowledge to share, so if you wanted science based discussions about bbing, its here.

[@Damian_Materowski]

We definitely enjoy each episode 😁

[@cleveosteen7175]

Cool

[@frente2zapatista]

Valuable addition to the channel John and Luke are extremely knowledgeable and deliver clean and clear explanation on all chemistry topics. Very knowledgeable dudes ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@richardnoren4331]

Another excellent, informative podcast from John!!!

[@stay_humbles]

This is some of the very best PED content I've ever seen and I'm super impressed at the number of replies that John has left on questions and comments. I've subscribed and am looking forward to more great content. Thanks guys.

[@johnjewett7970]

Thanks Alex!

[@stwephen775]

What a gold mine. Thanks gentlemen!

[@alialotbi4217]

This was super informative. I’m glad you all are apart of FAM now!

[@johnjewett7970]

Really appreciate that!

[@tawnybasile988]

Very informative. Keep ‘em coming!

[@alexmosner5025]

These guys are awesome. I love these segments. Keep em coming!

[@aasbun]

This was awesome! Thank you!

[@Kalebsweeten]

These guys are the best. j3u is the gold standard for bodybuilding knowledge and should be taken by pretty much every coach and athletes in the current competitive scene IMO.

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

DAMN this is a huge W my two favourite content creators Fouad and JJ this is awesome

[@johnjewett7970]

Thanks Rick!

[@VintageGenetics]

This is Golden content

[@alexandrudumitru2435]

Doing cardio and getting some solid no bs knowledge!

[@calumscotland3511]

great podcast so helpfull for the community

[@jacobweidner9405]

This was great. I found it interesting what you touched on with the reasons to use 19 nor derivatives. Could you guys go into more detail on this subject?

[@johnjewett7970]

I great episode would be just on 19 Nors

[@samuelthompson5161]

These guys are growing on me, Very Informative. Good stuff Boss.

[@johnjewett7970]

Woohoo 🙌

[@JonathanGonzalez-xf7yb]

Yes, it’s very informative because it’s not information he came up with. A guy named Victor Black came up with these models and way of doing things in this regard. John just parrots them and blocks anyone who accuses him for it.

[@josiahwilliams6646]

Extremely good podcast I can laugh and learn which is the best combination

[@greyyoutube]

Thanks for another good podcast. Just one advice for John, if you want to step up your production and avoid the pops when talking to the mic you can reposition it where it is not in a direct path of air coming out of your mouth or you can buy a microphone pop shield/filter for a couple of bucks. Cheers

[@johnjewett7970]

Appreciate the tip and actually I did get a mic cover to help. I record these episodes pretty far out but it should help in a few following episodes

[@danielb3968]

Thank you both for this valuable information..

[@chazzfinnigan]

Great timing. Just started taking Victor Blacks master class and I know some of your PED teaching is inspired by his model. Happy that safe use is getting exposure

[@johnjewett7970]

Victor is a wealth of knowledge and pioneer of safer use

[@brianjcoaching]

@John Jewett so you Refuse to give Credit where Credit is due?

[@MichaelBrown-zs5yt]

@@brianjcoaching you clearly no nothing about John. You flop

[@fresh0678]

​@@brianjcoachingwhy would anyone ever give credit to victor black? That guy is a complete Jabroni

[@betterstrength]

Great material guys. Would you guys consider interviewing Mike Israetel? I’ve heard him speak highly of you guys and that’s how I found you.

[@kaizersoze2606]

Great show NERDS keep it up 👍 this is my go too after workout sitting in massage chair at the gym

[@johnjewett7970]

Thank you

[@johnjewett7970]

🙌

[@SuperDappa100]

More like this lads perfick show

[@ThrowawayaccountForbodybuildin]

I just realized this on fuad page now! Hell ya good move for both of u

[@jakubzdebski2873]

very nice video waiting for more

[@BIack.Kaiser]

these guys are the modern day era godfather of steroids very valuable information 👏

[@Mikaeel84]

True TRT is whatever gets you close to the top of the reference range

[@djjames-h9d]

finally!!! someone with the guts to say what true trt actually is i'm on 250 mgs of sust shot 125 mgs twice a week on mon and thurs and i ran a total test test 6 weeks in on mon before the mon shot and it came back 2887 and highest allowable level i've seen is 1200 and most labs put it at about 900

[@fresh0678]

Have you ever considered pinning more frequently?

[@Mikaeel84]

320mg a week test e gives me right around 1000ng/dl total t. I take 100mg nandrolone a week along with it and my free t and estadial are slightly above the reference range. Keep in mind this is all prescribed. My doctor said I need so much because I work a lot of hard physical labor and lifts weights a lot. Thoughts?

[@tomasexteriors]

John is a bodybuilding God in my eyes.not bro science shit just pure nolidge like Ben pakulsky ✅ top notch guys

[@fresh0678]

Knowledge

[@LusciousBodybuilding]

Opinion on low dose tadalafil for blood pressure modulation, any risks?

[@johnjewett7970]

I haven’t seen it make massive impact on BP, but great for 🍆

[@Mikaeel84]

5mg a day took mine from high to normal.

[@johanharwig6326]

First, good content as always. I also have a question that I can't seem to find an answer to. I use TRT, legal through doctor. In the Netherlands that is with gel. Not the most user-friendly and perhaps optimal, but it does its job (for me). Suppose you want to use a somewhat higher dose from here for a while (look for what you can tolerate) what to do. continue to use gel and also inject enthanate (combining) or stop gel and switch entirely to enthanate ( and when go back on legit trt switching over to gel ). would love to get some insight into this

[@johnjewett7970]

I can see a rationale for using both of them individual. I would lean to individual as you will have a better gauge of adjusting dose and if you have an issue which to adjust

[@johanharwig6326]

@@johnjewett7970 Thanks for your reply. appreciate it.

[@MusubiMonster]

Question in regards to the example of the client on 20mg testosterone daily. Being that Proviron has the ability to lower SHBG levels, what if the client’s SHBG was already in the lower end of the reference range? Would it still be a good idea to deploy the Proviron to manage estrogenic side effects?

[@fresh0678]

Proviron does Not management estrogenic side effects.

[@brandong66]

I am one of those sensitive to testosterone dosage. Past ~135mg my resting heart rate jumps and no longer sleep well, it’s too stimulating. I’m wondering if adding in a DHT derivative would exasperate that?

[@johnjewett7970]

It’s one of those things of self experimentation we do as bodybuilders. The guys I coach that can’t get past 150mg of test, a DHT derivative can work well

[@brandong66]

@@johnjewett7970 thanks I appreciate the response.

[@ishouldbereadingrightnow5676]

Need Victor Black on here

[@Cracklord666]

One question before the praise 😊 are we talking about shorts or long esters on testo? Since using 50mg extra for 3 weeks of cypionate will take longer time to find out the highest tolerable load, right? So if I start to feel ichy nipples I lower the dose 50mg and start with nolvadex, but is 10 days enough then because the levels are elevated for a couple of weeks more I guess. Or do I use Nolvadex until I don't feel sensitive in my nipples anymore? This is the kind of information I would have needed before I started PEDs and this is a goldmine for beginners. Listen to these guys, don't just start with 1g of tren because your friend told you so.

[@JoeSchmoe_]

Hopefully they correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure they want us to avoid SERMs and AIs where we can under Black Safer Usage terms. Just drop back down to the highest dosage of test you can tolerate without any DHT or estrogenic side affects and then introduce a DHT derivative of your choice. No need for Nolvadex.

[@Cracklord666]

@Joe Thanks. I understood what they meant but I was just thinking about half life of longer esters. If I do shorter esters I can lower the testo quicker to the level I tolerate but with longer esters the level of concentration takes longer to go down so the side effects takes longer to go away also 🤔😊

[@JoeSchmoe_]

@@Cracklord666 That's a very good point. Sorry, I must have been reading a little too quickly. I'd get a second opinion from someone as I'm still very new to the World of PEDs but my line of thinking is to simply wait until the excess test, and subsequently it's metabolites, clear out of your system and your levels are more stable. Hopefully John or someone with a similar level of expertise can give their input though. Wish you the best man.

[@johnjewett7970]

Hey Daniel, with these titrations at this rate I find it usually very mild sensations and just pulling back the dose is enough. Now that is not always the case and I have needed to use nolva acutely and usually 10 days is enough actually. There is lots in theory that looks great as a model but coaching in the real world things don’t go right and you have to be flexible.

[@Cracklord666]

@John Jewett Thanks alot!

[@incredibally]

Hi guys, Thanks so much for such great information. In regards to my current cycle, After this podcast I have decided to remove the EQ which was currently at 300mg. This will now bring my cycle total mg dosage down to 1150mg. Would you recommend bringing this total mg dosage up by adding additional Masteron(this currently sits at 450mg) Thanks. Matt

[@fresh0678]

Were you only using test and masteron after dropping the eq?

[@pantelisdermitzakis]

Also why the hate against reasonable ai use?

[@johnjewett7970]

No hate here, is someone likes go ahead! I have just found we can use 1 less drug in the mix. More commonly in cycle design I see the abuse of AI and SERMs. They may have there place for a few situations.

[@lakeforkgiants]

I have a very high conversion rate to estradiol. On 120 mg per week, dosed MWF, no ai, my estradiol was 134 On just 60mg, my estradiol was good at 34pg/ml, but total T only 540 What would you suggest I do? Just run low T and add a little something else or run higher T and be on adex perpetually?

[@johnjewett7970]

Depends on what your goal is here. If the plan is just health and TRT or gettin into competing, that would depend on my answer. Also, how you feel on 60mg. 80-100mg per week is not uncommon for true TRT, you might be able to escalate up to something like that.

[@lakeforkgiants]

@@johnjewett7970 thank you for taking the time to respond. I’ll never be at a competition level, I just enjoy lifting and making progress. Doing whatever I can to make that happen is very important to me.

[@christianwarren7313]

Very informative and beneficial as always! As someone trying to put on muscle with moderate dosages, after I cover my test base, if I were to use eq at a moderate dose alongside the use of an arb..what do we know about eq’s binding affinity to the E2 receptor. I’ve seen Derek mpmd discuss this and my thoughts are run test as high and safe as possible with moderate eq and arb to possibly cover androgen load through test and fill anabolics with eq and low dose nandrolone, while keeping e2 in check. Would love to hear your thoughts in terms of ratios/dosages and any anecdotal evidence you may have! Thanks again guys!

[@davidmaxwell9334]

You do NOT use EQ in any circumstances under the safer use model

[@xenon8657]

@@davidmaxwell9334 not necessarily, I’m sure Luke and John ( and Chris Tuttle) have shown there is no “singular approach” to bodybuilding that works and what doesn’t work for you may be beneficial for someone else. Yes EQ does have negative properties but so does every androgenic compound at a high enough dose.

[@davidmaxwell9334]

@@xenon8657 yes necessarily. Its NOT approved for human use, its hardly been tested in humans. It never got to human trials because of the kidney and liver toxicity found in rats. It's an awful compound and the fact you're even considering it as an option amongst others shows you have no clue about the safer use model. We don't fuck with drugs like EQ.

[@johnjewett7970]

With boldenone it brings to the table protein accretion potentially may be more renal toxic. Reasearch around it is animal models and prospective human trials so not overly conclusive data. However, not being approved for human use and going through all the same safety testing as other clinically deployed AAS, makes me lean away from it. Rather use masteron or primo. However, I understand access and price is weighed into that decision. As far as boldenone binding to the E2 receptor I have not seen that. So I would go primo and nandrolone personally

[@sundvallen]

@@davidmaxwell9334 LMFAO you Victor Black chodes are everywhere. This darn community.

[@Madchris8828]

Hey guys, I'm natural but Have tested at high levels of estradiol in the past. What is a best recommendation to lower that level naturally as well?

[@mturley8414]

Take estra blockers bud..

[@Madchris8828]

@@mturley8414 I didn't think of that as an option, but you aren't wrong

[@mturley8414]

@@Madchris8828 well if you having issues with it and your natty I really don’t see any other options but I’m not a doctor.. Maybe a diet change??.. I dunno bud..

[@Madchris8828]

@m turley appreciate the input in any case 👍

[@johnjewett7970]

Question is are you symptomatic to where this is an issue? Sometimes a higher lab marker might just be the moment it was tested or a norm for you and not problematic. Higher estradiol levels can occur when bodyfat is higher as well.

[@graysonboyd7371]

Fucking sick

[@pantelisdermitzakis]

Good luck with your lipids level when you put proviron in the equation.

[@kaizersoze2606]

Yeah no doubt I had blood work done and my cholesterol was really bad the doctor wanted to put me on medication I’m honest with my primary care doctor but she doesnt know much about this lifestyle I usually have to explain it to her but it was bad with proviron went back 3 months later and levels improved dramatically, but I won’t lie to you I was worried this was the first time my bloods came back bad or beyond bad and it’s definitely a Shitty feeling when you can officially see how you’ve fucked your own body up this was a combination of abusing Tren and proviron w test base but just staying on way too long with limited cardio or none sometimes but I looked amazing 🥲

[@pantelisdermitzakis]

More than 2 injections per week when using enathate is useless imo.

[@johnjewett7970]

I just advise shoot as frequent as YOU are willing to do and is needed to manage sides. If you work with someone very sensitive to E2 conversion the more frequent injections can smooth out the peaks and troughs in serum levels. Many go off of the half life of test e at 7-10 days, but you need to also look at the Cmax (time to peak concentration). This is 24 hours for test E which can also make E2 peak harder as well. Another consideration is someone injecting 350mg of test 2x per week along with other things, it’s a way to manage shot volume. So, I would t say useless as either way it is going to work, but useful within the right situation.

[@Mikaeel84]

I shot 4 times a week all the way up to 300mg test e/week until I got to 320mg and I started getting emotional and holding water. I changed it to 5 shots/week and it solved my problems.

[@jvery19]

💪💥

[@karolzpoznania]

How to get jacked, healthy and bald 💪

[@johnjewett7970]

True story lol

[@henquat2828]

Bro this dude is like if Jon smoltz took roidz

[@TheDanson000]

48:00 I was new to the PED use. My TRT place put me on 1mg of anastrozole 2x per week with 250mg of testosterone in one shot. My Eyesite changed in the first 4 weeks, and I stopped using the AI because I noticed I couldn't focus at night while driving. I stopped taking the AI and now use primo. Zero issues. Cheer! I had to get new glasses. beware of the ai's. As far as testosterone - Now I do smaller amounts each day.

[@kaizersoze2606]

Bro I don’t understand why they automatically give anti estrogens to most customers now, I’ve been running testosterone for almost 10 years now I’ve only had to take an AI once and that was from too much deca durabolin and pro hormones years ago AIs can be dangerous and a little bit goes along way for most but everyone is different, good luck bro but you may not need an AI 💪🙏✌️

[@johnjewett7970]

I really am not in favor of assuming everyone needs an AI. When you were natural you did not need an AI, so you should not of using TRT at physiological levels

[@kaizersoze2606]

@@johnjewett7970 great point especially with Real replacement therapy is this just a marketing thing I wonder one more add on, to keep that dreaded bloat and bitch tits away ? 👀

[@Kbats733]

You haven't got a clue. Just rambling on

[@Ali_Rs07]

Wrong channel? Lol

[@gregorylewis6048]

They are now collaborating

[@Ali_Rs07]

@@gregorylewis6048why is vid unlisted now then. Edit: nvm guess not!

[@gregorylewis6048]

@@Ali_Rs07 it is

[@mrvujadinovic9403]

No

[@MrBusy777]

True trt depends on the Medical problem! Either from overuse of testosterone or a male diagnosed with “ Klinefelter syndrome “ would determine the amount needed per week. Obviously someone with Klinefelter would be at a 200-300 mg range per week as it’s much more aggressive. 💪 Great video btw! 🤍

[@Supershnoob]

What do you think is the minimal effective dose of hgh (pharmaceutical grade) for recreational bodybuilding and longevity? Thanks for everthing guys!!!

[@johnjewett7970]

2iu is considered a HRT level