TRIANGLE (2009) Explained

#triangle #endingexplained
In the time bending head trip of TRIANGLE, a group stranded in the infamous Bermuda Triangle are forced to board a mysterious ocean liner, where they find themselves stuck in an increasingly complicated time loop, and their only hope is to find out how to break it. Learn all about the plot's many twists and turns, our main character Jess's important personal journey, as well as explaining the ending and what it means.
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[@turanose]

the cab driver looked so tired, he's like "attempt number 575, lets see if she finally gets it"

[@genjishimada5592]

The good place reference?

[@KIMKRIS1]

@@genjishimada5592 lol

[@neilsy8299]

The loop will break when she finally decides to go back and pay the damn cab driver!

[@chupapibingbong]

I read somewhere that he's suppose to be the "angel of death". Hence, sombre and depressed atmosphere he portrays is well suited for what he's suppose to be.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

attempt would be 20 or 30th, since we seen that many bodies of woman on ship, also similar amount of talismans from neck and notes

[@lukefox718]

Jess: kills herself and ends the loop and breaking time and space Purgatory: *NO* this isn't how you play this game

[@Majestic469]

Here’s an improved version Purgatory: wait that’s illegal

[@fireflyhighh]

@@Majestic469 how is it improved lol you made it worse

[@Majestic469]

Molds I just said it was a better comment. As a fellow commenter, I am skilled in knowing which commenting templates are best for which situations

[@midnight-user12]

limbo is never ending

[@Otgel]

@@fireflyhighh its better lol

[@SuperBlackKris]

Did he really just casually ask us if we wanted a “Thirteen Ghosts” episode like we haven’t been commenting and asking for one for the past 2yrs

[@Kiss_My_Aspergers]

Thirteen Ghosts is BABY ❤❤❤

[@AngryGeisha652]

I was gonna say. I've been waiting for that one for quite sometime

[@amberlance3221]

He HAS to include the stories behind the ghosts and how they fit into the 13 ghost prophecy

[@jedkhs3358]

fr

[@sparxhyuga]

THANK YOU lol, commenting from the future I'm really upset that I didn't get my Thirteen Ghost. Last Shift was very, Very interesting I'll definitely give it that. But I wish i got my choice.

[@averyperry7234]

I swear I think triangle is one of the most underrated horror movies

[@FaZaFurhod]

Is it horror though? Isn't it more of a thriller?

[@esccyprus]

Well said it's an amazing movie

[@averythesuperhero]

It's okay, imo. Not the best, not the worst. Also hello fellow Avery

[@averyperry7234]

averythesuperhero 3rd time meeting someone named Avery

[@TheMinarus]

Like I said in my long ass comment....Good project, far too ambitious to be coherent in it's finer details...If you analyze things it's a hive of plot holes and especially conveniences. Entertaining though, it's a fun mental exercise until you realize it doesn't really work in it's concept

[@katherineryan7126]

Greek mythology nerd here. The guy who pushed the rock up the mountain in the Underworld was Sisyphus, a mortal king who cheated death, so the ship's name Aeolus isn't a reference to that. You were right that Aeolus was the god of the winds. Just guessing here, but the ship being named after him might be a reference to his involvement in the Odyssey, where he puts all the winds in a bag except the one that will blow Odysseus home. However, the sea god Poseidon is angry at Odysseus (for blinding a Cyclops who just so happened to be Poseidon's son), and so is trying to make sure Odysseus never gets home. So he convinces Odysseus's crew that the bag of winds is actually full of gold and they open it. They're literally in sight of Ithaca, Odysseus's home, when the winds come raging out and blow them all the way back to Aeolus's palace. Aeolus refuses to give him another bag of winds because he believed to have such bad luck, Odysseus had to be cursed by the gods. So my guess is the name of the boat is a reference to this: coming so close to home only to wind up right back where you started. You could even go further and say that Jess is Odysseus (who coincidentally also had a son he was trying to return home to), cursed by an oceanic supernatural force (in this case the Bermuda Triangle) to come just within sight of home only to be swept right back to where she started. It's also worth pointing out that, similar to Jess, Odysseus becomes the only survivor of his crew.

[@tablescissors]

Katherine Ryan - I love you

[@Susyrbd]

This was the comment I was looking for! The moment he said “cursed with rolling up all a hill” I was like ummmm that’s doesn’t sound right! Thank you!

[@Av-te7ze]

well I do believe that what you said is probably the real reason the ship is named Aeolus, and not the story of Sisyphus, but Sisyphus is the son of Aeolus (at least in some writing, I'll admit I'm not the most well versed when it comes to Aeolus and Sisyphus)

[@sumared]

The movie explains this correctly, I just believe he got it backwards in his explanation.

[@AnymMusic]

yeah I was already thinking "wait wtf no he doesn't"

[@stanleywtang]

All I heard was this Jess, our Jess, another Jess, all that Jess

[@hithedestroyer4065]

This guy gets it

[@NoireTheElin]

I hate that my name is jessica and people at work call me jess and this I listen to this at work and hate myself because of the same name.

[@an_38kitkashyap]

This movie makes Chemistry looks like a child's play.

[@NoireTheElin]

Marvin Zimmerman aaaaaaaaaaa

[@garfieldenjoyer2543]

Kingdom hearts in a nutshell

[@kumanananananananan7]

Triangle Rectangle, the sequel Line, the prequel Dot, origin story Pyramid, the final chapter

[@dyev7096]

Triangle. Rectangle (the sequel), Pentagon (another sequel)

[@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN]

Triangle, then Square (the sequel), Circle (the prequel) try-angle (the remake).

[@blanknuke8695]

Circle (endgame)

[@gemralphrabulan4858]

@@blanknuke8695 Myriagon (the ultimate twist)

[@GrimJackal]

Surely the sequel should be Tetrahedron.

[@Dr.Ruffles]

ya'll ever think that Death gets tired of taking the same people over and over again? like "oh boy, another Jess. i wonder what her story will be..."

[@montypython5521]

But it's the same jess that dies every time, the jess in the house.

[@johnmayernick9561]

She's in hell though.

[@TheShattenjager]

Maybe that’s his punishment ooohh.

[@hopegallows1392]

If I found a message in blood that told me to go somewhere I would avoid that place at all costs

[@Redwan777]

Fate will bring you where you are supposed to go. No matter if you want or not.

[@Crystal-sl3oo]

Redwan Hossain true but spooky

[@Redwan777]

@@Crystal-sl3oo Ever watched Final Destination movie? You will know how spooky it actually is.

[@cortex8239]

@@Redwan777 Doesn't make sense but aight

[@ericsteven1329]

@@cortex8239 It makes sense if you think about it, whatever decision you can think of, there's no escaping fate. You can trick yourself but you wouldn't know it was fate all along.

[@2536nikki]

I believe the loop all started when Jess gets mad at her son Tommy and actually ends up killing him. The time on the clock when she starts hitting him for making a mess is the same time that’s frozen on her watch and on the clock on the ship when Greg clarifies that it’s actually 11:30. Which to me seems like the time that’s frozen is the time this all began for her. It’s her purgatory time. She’s stuck in purgatory constantly living the same nightmare over and over to get back and fix things to save her son that she killed. And I believe the cycle repeats when she is faced with the taxi driver because he says something like “the boy can’t be saved” which is giving Jess the option to quit the loop and move on to death but as we know Jess chooses to continue the loop in purgatory to try and fix what she did.

[@liamfaoisidheold]

Oh... f u c k.

[@farkbett699]

@@eden20111 I believe it was in that car crash

[@V45hTh3Stamp3d3]

There's absolutely nothing that indicates she kills her son...

[@2536nikki]

Billie Eyelash I mean I’m not sure. Maybe she died or maybe she’s stuck in a limbo state. Maybe they both died in the accident but since she was abusive she got stuck in purgatory.

[@2536nikki]

アンチヒーロー I understand this. It was just my guess at it. They could have both died in the accident who knows.

[@HimitsuHunter]

Last Shift sounds like something I'd like to hear about.

[@MPMP-ig4zl]

Xi Cree it’s really good. It might still be on Netflix, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

[@nickgavis0305]

MP1708 MP it’s really not that great

[@wigglytwizzler6929]

I went in to it with high expectations. It was scary and all, but the story wasn’t as deep as everyone makes it out to be.

[@f3glitchy235]

It’s probably better than 13 ghosts trust me

[@skylerwillis5247]

Really good movie

[@OneMinuteCreepyClips]

Part of a different theory I read is that the reason why they didn't find Heather after the storm was because she was the only one to have survived the wreck.

[@cleliamattana6582]

Correct, this analysis is full of holes, there was another one totally brilliant but I can't find it. It covered every possible detail.

[@MasterBronzeElite]

@@cleliamattana6582it's the one by Peng Yang 9 years ago That one explains the different copies of Jess as well

[@shreshthasarkar4882]

Bro if Heather did survive then there would be plenty of Heathers in the real world as the loop repeats in real world and time

[@CapsLockKeyon]

​@@shreshthasarkar4882 Naw, think of the loop as a repeating instance. If Heather lived, she's not actually trapped in that instance, and time continued normally for her. The real Jess is long died and was killed in a car accident taking her son to the Harbor. We never get to meet that specific Jess so it's even questionable if the events we see take place in the movie at all, or if it's just all purgatory punishment. Like from the moment she was like "I'll brb death, lemme just take a quick boat ride" death was like "PUNISH!" and then the movie takes place.

[@OneMinuteCreepyClips]

@@shreshthasarkar4882 Hmmm, excellent point. However, there would be plenty of everyone. Perhaps Jess and the others are in a different realm of reality. It is something to ponder.

[@keyanstoney1742]

If the body’s don’t disappear doesn’t that mean there’s eventually going to be a huge pile of body’s. Bodies which the people will see and not go on the boat

[@space3817]

you would think

[@cresitonia6819]

i'd just start shooting at them on the boat so they don't come up. or she could leave notes for every different method she tries. whether it's just hiding in a locker doing nothing. or just going to take a nap on a bed and stare at the wall.

[@AmaryInkawult]

That would be an absolute mind fuck and force one to question their existence.

[@CoolioTheMonkey]

Thats a plothole and paradox

[@lazyken6468]

Like Dr who

[@astridtheterrible]

The ship was Silent Hill the whole time. We love an extended universe.

[@halfbakedpotatoe6351]

Damn

[@davidradcliffe955]

Thats possible since Silent Hill did have a arcade game that involved a ferry that crashed and sunk in the lake

[@Sm0k3turt]

Astrid the Terrible but that doesn’t work. Silent Hill is a town for a reason but I get what you mean

[@sparxhyuga]

Lol, I'd love to see Pyramid Head turn into Micheal Phelps in an underwater chase scene😂. With the sword of course because he just can.

[@unitdroid5158]

When i die i want this dude to explain my whole life at the funeral lmao. I love his voice and the way he talls

[@TheHitmanAgent]

He would be like: "In the end he falls from the 3rd floor and DIES!"

[@J0hnHenrySNEEDen]

@@TheHitmanAgent "and then the scene cuts into his funeral and we could see nobody came"

[@dawndayton9937]

i would too

[@TheHitmanAgent]

@@J0hnHenrySNEEDen That would be a drama with a sad ending 😂

[@J0hnHenrySNEEDen]

@@TheHitmanAgent and then it cuts to another scene where he is reincarnated as a tree and was cut down and made into money where in another scene we could see that he is in a stripper tits the end

[@ivannav9175]

jess is stuck in purgatory for failing as a mother and abusing her son. BOOM.

[@theshoes7488]

👏 👏 Finally! why is it so hard for people to see evil when it comes in a pretty package.

[@blackdragon6]

Doesn't explain why her friends are in purgatory tho.

[@haydeetoribio8579]

Thats the best answer for this confusing movie and never ending killing 😂😂😂

[@amarreezlan7131]

still doesn’t explain why jess whom had relived all cycles didn’t remember the cycle itself when joining her friends sailing. instead only getting dejavu

[@blackdragon6]

@Jommie Joes but why give them POV's if they're not really there? That has to be some kinda oversight by the writers, or they're all in it together.

[@brooklynroach1740]

It was Sisyphus, not Aoelus who had to push the rock for eternity.

[@greenknightofwar7024]

Thank you

[@fslayer1290]

Wasn't Aoelus a buddy of Hercules. He was his sidekick in the old 90s series.

[@tyrant-den884]

@@fslayer1290 Not in mythology. His big event was giving Odysseus an oxide bag full of wind (no pun intended, probably) and then didn't give Odysseus another one after he fucked up.

[@newguy90]

Sisyphus was the son of King Aeolus of Aeolia. Aeolus himself was a demigod who could command the winds and was a son of Poseidon.

[@PlagueDragonRat]

@@fslayer1290 That's Iolaus.

[@LoneEditor]

Sphere The Cube Triangle Shapes are dangerous

[@halamadruuid2380]

Next: The -Lube- Tube

[@nicanonymous9023]

@@tjperette5304 I concur!

[@Sarah.J.Jacobson]

Google the north pole of Saturn, the black cubes/hexagon. black stars falls over Carcosa. In Carcosa time is a flat circle.

[@rohandcosta4019]

😂

[@RKrk-jj2li]

Can't wait to see RHOMBUS!

[@posterboy0007]

Jess can't "accept" that she can't save her son because she'll eventually forget the previous events. That's why the punishment and revelation falls flat. What's the point of eternal torment if she doesn't know she's being tormented and when she does figure it out she's "killed" and forgets, only to repeat the cycle with a vague sense of deja vu?

[@randomtuber7420]

It is so the "pain" will remain fresh and intense every time..? You dont need to remember everything forever for it to be torment, after all you would probably by deduction realise that you are in a timeloop. I would think that if you got to see e.g someone you love die over and over again for an eternity you would start to get "used" to it and not getting hurt that much by it. However cause these emotions are subjective I cant speak for everyone but only for myself and think that this is the reason she eventually "forgets" only to learn it again later.

[@4833-o1b]

It's like the manga/anime Devilman. Lucifer has a realization at the end that he's killed the only person who actually means anything to him and cries. Then the angels come down and reset the time line so he experiences the moment again.

[@Supernamek-rh2xv]

Cornelius Maximus because the torment is not knowing what you are being through but the loneliness and empty void you feel everywhere and how that feeling made you lost your mind

[@112523]

well, she does experience the death of her son over and over again without prior memory of it happening. wich is decent torture if you ask me

[@TribulationGuild]

The point of eternal punishment in mythology is that it never lessens, that there's no point at which the pain can be brushed aside or ignored. It's why those punished by gods tend to have their wounds heal or start anew every cycle, or be tempted with a bit of hope that they might escape. It's because that way they don't get used to it, that they don't just accept things and have the torture lose it's impact. They fight because they hope they might free themselves, but they never do, because that is the real torture, not necessarily the pain in the moment.

[@ArnavSinghVEVO]

When you realise the movie is still going on. Still! Longest running film.

[@ISAAC607]

I think the loops distort later on

[@zahntastatur]

I believe our Boy Foundflix made a little mistake here: Aeolus is indeed the god of wind, but he didn’t have to roll a rock up a mountain. That was Sisyphus.

[@Scanny524]

Thank you! I was just thinking that, but I couldn't trust myself

[@gregaudet5672]

I think they mention it in the movie. They changed the legend so the name of the boat and the time loop part could mix. I dont know if our boy made that mistake himself

[@potassiumnitrate420]

I also thought the myth sounded familiar, but I also thought it was one of those where the god had 2 names

[@Shorkii.]

Yeah he was the one who helped Odysseus

[@HenningGu]

Apparently Sisyphus was Aeolus' son

[@recession81]

The cycle resets and she forgets everything when she falls asleep in the boat and in the cab on the way to the harbor as if every time she falls asleep she forgets everything and gets disoriented. The ferry man "Charon" was giving her another chance to move on to the afterlife but her being attached to her son she only wanted to bring him back. Remember when she said her son was her world? Thats because he was all she had. When she fell asleep on the boat and had the dream of her waking up on the beach was the past repeating itself in her dreams but she doesn't remember because of the whole memory reset, and so the cycle continues to repeat over and over for all eternity. In Greek mythology Sisyphus was the king of Ephyra. He was punished for his self-aggrandizing craftiness and deceitfulness by being forced to roll an immense boulder up a hill only for it to roll down every time it neared the top, repeating this action for eternity. She must have really been a bad mom to her son and the punishment made her feel guilty and she also cheated death by not going back to the cab "the ferry man" so therefor she is stuck in this cycle for all eternity. Sisyphus was punished because he cheated death twice, Jess also cheated death twice both times right after she woke up, the first time on the boat she didn't drown and the second time when she never goes back to the cab who represents the boat of Charon. In Greek mythology and Roman mythology, Charon or Kharon the ferryman of Hades who carries souls of the newly deceased across the rivers Styx and Acheron that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead. A coin to pay Charon for passage, usually an obolus or danake, was sometimes placed in or on the mouth of a dead person. Some authors say that those who could not pay the fee, or those whose bodies were left unburied, had to wander the shores for one hundred years, until they were allowed to cross the river. In the catabasis mytheme, heroes - such as Aeneas, Dionysus, Heracles, Hermes, Odysseus, Orpheus, Pirithous, Psyche, Theseus and Sisyphus - journey to the underworld and return, still alive, conveyed by the boat of Charon.

[@BlindGuyLyle]

I ran out of breath reading this comment. But yep, it makes sense

[@mizscoleman]

Yessssss!!! I think anytime she sleeps, the reality of her situation becomes more and more faint in her memory.

[@mizscoleman]

How does Jess actually get off the boat once she kills everyone? Does she magically wake up on the beach when the last person dies? Does she swim to shore?

[@mizscoleman]

After the car crash we see that the dead version of Jess has the blood marking on her face from the ship. I think this is the same Jess from the ship that just jumped overboard (as opposed to being killed). When Jess wakes up on the beach we see the empty overalls floating in the water near her. I think this is the version of Jess that she sees when she's looking through the window at her son. Blood mark Jess never died. She was able to make it back to the house. That's why there's still a copy of Jess at the house with her son. Am I making sense?

[@DaltonWixom]

Thank you for saving me 23 minutes

[@eternalrage812]

Do thirteen ghost, that was one of the scariest movies when I was a kid.

[@TaylorM6668]

Eternal Rage that movie was amazing!

[@Burnt_out2343]

Do thritean

[@angel_qu3en]

I had nightmares for years because of that movie. I still get flashbacks it scared me for life 😓😫😧

[@0.Y.]

Bro same I had night mares for months

[@jsflaming3094]

the person with the cage on its head scared me man

[@bv9442]

Jess apologises to Graig when she first appears on the dock is because she knows he is going to die but she anyway chooses to do it as she wants to save her son but soon she forgets about it after waking on board the Triangle....

[@22alfatih]

So the cursed one was the ship?..

[@zacksynder907]

So how it's goona end? If she forgets it all starts again ?

[@linegametogether3255]

​@@zacksynder907 it won't end until she keeps the promise she made to the death.

[@bibibi355]

Aeolus was actually the god of the winds/storms. He gifted Odysseus a bag containing the winds, which was opened by one of the shipmates, and sent their ship back to the island they came from. Sisyphus is the son of Aeolus who was sentenced to roll a boulder up a hill for eternity, only to watch it fall back down, as punishment for cheating death.

[@ΜαγδαΝτ-κ1ξ]

I am greek and i am impressed by your greek mytholodgy knowlegde. 👑👑👑👑👑👑

[@googlename4224]

@@ΜαγδαΝτ-κ1ξ Greek mythology is awesome :)

[@thanhhsta]

I was just about to point that out ahahaha

[@mimic3178]

Gosh yeah, that butchered mythology was bugging the hell out of me

[@duskripper6650]

That's what I was thinking, wasn't it Sisyphus that pushed the rock up the hill 🤔 glad you clarified

[@CryoCustoms]

This movie is a complete mindfuck

[@Sm0k3turt]

CryoNerfMods someone said it!

[@emilandersen8804]

@bacon froyo you are way smarter then the rest of us

[@nirajnemkul]

Yea!!!! Totally under-rated

[@zorocasablanca7872]

i absolutely agree with you.

[@khia797]

She basically trapped the 3 versions of herself in a loop bc she wants to save her son and can’t take in that she can’t the taxi man gave her chance but her mind was kinda resetting so she forgot some stuff but still went onto the boat

[@MrJaycrow30]

When Jess "loops" at the end after the car crash, wanting to change her sons fate, is almost like being reincarnated, losing all her memories of the incident, until something triggers them.

[@doriangrace7265]

Id be down to see a movie where after reincarnation one doesn't lose one's memory

[@BrokenGodEnt]

@@doriangrace7265 Yeah, that would be less annoying as a viewer to watch. I love this movie, but there were instances where Jess made me wish she remembered everything.

[@Wolffiee1998]

I think her memory "resets" after the car accident because she snaps from realizing her son is dead (and maybe also realizing that he's died before in multiple previous loops)

[@notorietymachine]

@@doriangrace7265 that’s basically the premise of edge of tomorrow, everytime Cruise dies, he resets with the new knowledge to how to beat the other worldly threat

[@alpacamale2909]

White Bear

[@ultraviolenzia3535]

If you think about it, it's not a punishment for Jess, she's willingly choosing to go through the process over and over again because she knows that this is only chance that she can be with her kid again even though it won't end pleasantly everytime.

[@timmurithi2410]

It's an illusion of choice

[@_TheViewer_]

The driver’s very patient here 😂

[@_TheViewer_]

@DuBistSUS Still waiting, as we write here 😂

[@angelamartin2811]

😮😮😊

[@constantthought6082]

She’s kills her son, she’s actually a terrible person, in reality. The version of her that is loving and wants to save her son is just a scenario given as punishment sorta, because she actually will never end up saving him in any version of herself. When she’s wiping up the blue paint, that’s actually her sons blood, and she gets it on her dress too, changes, puts her sons body in her car, then goes to the harbor and sees Vic, and this explains why she’s acting so strange and says her son is at school.

[@cp78912]

The Jess in the end of the movie is actually evil Jess. She'll be shot by Jess two in the head and later beaten and tossed overboard (which could then explain the memory loss)

[@marynac2415]

Chris Patry that’s what I was wondering! At the end of the video I was like “how did evil Jess happened though?” Thanks! 👍

[@cp78912]

@Gabreya Bradley For the sake of the timeline we're referring to "Last Loop" Jess as Evil Jess

[@septiikos9680]

Evil Jess is the Jess she killed at the house. Same blood pattern on her face. That Jess was pretty abusive.

[@septiikos9680]

@Gabreya Bradley yeah they are one and the same.

[@demolitionFM]

If y’all google “triangle movie time loop explained” and go to google images look for the triangle graph from “thechessboardfactory” it explains it perfectly :)

[@cleminx5419]

This is the kind of movie that I've seen when I was little and think about every so often trying to figure out what happened.

[@roastedtoast5461]

Titania 135 me too

[@catscats4427]

That's butterfly effect for me

[@mariabonilla7692]

same dude

[@bvip8309]

Same.. I saw this when I was little.. But barely recalls any of it .. That's why I am here .. hehe

[@ThePa1riot]

This movie is THE closest definition to Hell I’ve ever seen put to screen.

[@alliascarroll2392]

Watch gameplay of a game called agony you will change your mind

[@LucianCorrvinus]

Oh you wacky Christians...

[@ThePa1riot]

@Allias Carroll What the other person says. Agony is what people think Hell merely looks like. This movie captures the state of being that is Hell.

[@ThePa1riot]

@LucianCorrvinous Son of Hekaté Meaning what exactly? Do you disagree?

[@RoCkbunny769]

The show “Lucifer” has a hell where the person must suffer through their own worst sin over and over again. The only thing keeping them there is their own self-perceived guilt, and they are actually free to leave to the afterlife at any time.

[@Classynigga]

The key to understand the film is this word - Sisyphus Do you remember the scene where they talk about Sisyphus , Son of Aeolus? If not, then watch the film again because all of it will start making sense when you have understood the story of Sisyphus, who was the son of Aeolus. The names of these two characters appear more than once the film. Aeolus is the name of the ship they are on. So it is very important. So, what’s the big deal with this name? Well, let me tell you the story of Sisyphus - Son of Aeolus. Sisyphus made a promise to death but he broke it. So death punished him by giving him a task. He had to move a rock up a hill. But as soon as he reached the top, the rock would fall to the bottom again. And he would have to take it to the top again. This was a never ending task because as soon as he reached the top, the rock would fall back to the starting place and he would do it all over again. It was an infinite loop. Is it starting to make some sense now? This is what's happening in Triangle. Jess was a bad and abusive mother so she was being punished. The loop started a long time back and she is stuck in it forever. There are many hints throughout the film. No matter how many times she thinks she broke free, she is still stuck in the loop - As evident by the dead birds on the seashore after the accident. No matter how many changes she makes, she realises that she has done it before. When the accident happens and her son dies, she takes a cab and decides to go back to the yacht. She thinks she will fix everything because now she remembers things and will avoid it the next time. When she gets down from the cab, she promises the driver that she would come back. The driver says - So, I will keep the meter running? You promise you will come back, right? The mysterious taxi driver represents the devil or the ferry man who wants to take her away. He reminds Jess that she has killed her son, who is now dead. He tells her that if she accepts this fact he can take her away. But as we see Jess continues in the loop so that she can eventually go home to see her son again. (She will probably break free if she stops trying to save her son and accept the reality.) Now the questions that bothers most of the people - If she remembers everything, why can’t she save her son during the next loop? Well, that is because whoever is doing this is making sure she forgets everything. When does she forget everything you ask? She forgets everything the moment she takes a nap in the Yacht. Watch the movie again and you will notice that when she wakes up, she looks bewildered. After that, she does not remember the Ship at all. Now, the good thing about art is that everyone interprets it in a different way. There are so many theories but this one made the perfect sense to me.

[@blankname1019]

I agree with you 100%.The forgetting part is very cruel,but at least the devil let's her see how many times she has done the loop.Picture how many dead bodies,birds,lockets,etc she will see if she keeps doing 1k times,10k times,100k times,etc....wow at some point she will have to accept it.

[@DjSostre7]

Youre the real MVP. All someone needs to do is see your comment. This man made a whole video! Lmao

[@theshoes7488]

@@blankname1019 she deserves it. Maybe not 100k times but she’s pure trash to do that to a special needs kid and lie about it (which is what they all do)

[@keem2723]

Deserves way more likes

[@gracey_bun]

77th.:3

[@parminderjaura5642]

As an aerospace engineering student, I can confirm that not only are triangles terrifying, but so is every other shape.

[@theshoes7488]

Very funny any original my friend!

Lmao, I'm imagining an aerospace engineer walking around his house like a schizophrenic scared shirtless of everything.

[@wilmagregg3131]

i imagine lovecraft nodding his head in agreement in the afterlife hopefully a much happier one then the horros he imagined in life

[@ThatGuyThai]

A triangle is most frightening because it can make all other shapes.

[@nathanjereb9944]

*Holds up a non-Euclidean object* Aerospace engineering student: *confused screaming*

[@matthewhousley6195]

Am I the only one who didn’t think they’d like this channel then ended up binge watching like every single video 😂😂😂

[@captainjoy8976]

Nah mate, same here :D

[@majmalton9343]

Me too dude

[@denisebelt2503]

🙋🏿‍♀️

[@adayzvibdwod1908]

Jury’s still out for me. Better watch like 10 or 20 more

[@marchingham]

Right?? He's so easy to watch! Not gimmicky or obnoxious. Great for binging.

[@troublefollows9986]

The beginning of the movie is the end of the movie The triangle is actually a infinity loop .... Also the music in this movie is so fitting for it...serene ... Mysterious... haunting

[@doriangrace7265]

So the triangle is also...a circle

[@Madferit91]

It is not. We never saw "our Jess" become the "evil Jess". When the "evil Jess" kills Downey and Sally, she says "I'm sorry but I love my son" so that means she already went to the city and had the car accident and she remembers it all. We never saw "our Jess" kill anyone because she knew his son was dead. The loop consists of at least one more stage of boarding the ship that we never saw. For example, we also never saw "our Jess" being in the position of being pointed with the gunshot by the other Jess and running away. The guy making this video makes the mistake of assuming "evil Jess" is the same as the "masked Jess with a gunshot". They're not. The "evil Jess" is probably the last one of the loop before the beggining of the movie. Her memory resets because she dies. Killed with an axe by another Jess. So thre's at least 2 other stages of the loop that we never saw "our Jess" go through.

[@mmkamron]

@@Madferit91 my mind can't take this, sorry )

[@toooooooooooooooooooooooooooom]

@@Madferit91 Yeah the loop never resets in the movie... That was the weirdest thing. Maybe a plot hole?

[@Madferit91]

@@toooooooooooooooooooooooooooom No no, it's not a plothole. The movie just decided to show us let's say 5 stages (I don't remember now), of a loop that actually has 7 stages. That's it. The point of the movie was already made andeverything was explained, but those little stuff keep us guessing.

[@nathanx.675]

90% of the people I've talked to thought there's only one Jess who goes through 3 cycles (newly onboard --> killing mask woman --> becomes mask woman). But there are actually TWO different Jess on the ship going through SIX stages instead of 3.

[@VideoGuy232]

Technically it’s only two cycles. Jess A’s arrival cycle and Jess B’s arrival cycle. Jess A “dies” in odd cycles and Jess B “dies” in even ones. The reason why it’s confusing is because there’s three versions of them on the ship at a time (ABA in odd, BAB in even), but the events in every other cycle are the same. EDIT: The reason why I personally think this is interesting (and the meat of the movie’s premise) is because Jess A is fundamentally good, trying to do the right thing and save everyone while Jess B seems more sinister and murders them on purpose. I think this is a reflection (and foreshadowing) of the two sides of the character. The good one we see in the beginning, and the bad one we see in the flashback at the end. Her character is tormented and who she becomes is influenced by her environment.

[@mariawhite7337]

@@VideoGuy232 i think its actually three. However. The problem is that bloody face jess is there remember? I believe this is the first jess. The very first one to experience the looping. Where you can maybe explain that Jess One acidentally killed the guy like at first. Then had to defend herself from the others as they tried to kill her. She sruvives only to see the time loop start up again. Maybe. Like you DO have to factor in there is ONE Jess who is on the boat that is actually there at all times and is somewhag extant from the loop in a way. Who KNOWS the full cycle and is actively forcing it to happen. So therefore making at least one Jess get to see her son again. So you have to wonder is WHAT was the first time loop. Then the next two.

[@mariawhite7337]

@ghibi hisab Ibrahim There is plenty of evidence that there was a historical Jesus. Now was this god? Was this man killed like he was? That is all up in the air. Most Bibical historians can agree at the base. There was Jesus. After that everything became corrupted. You need not look much further than the letters of Paul "these people are not worshipping the right jesus" Also, who the FUK cares about this on this discussion of the triangle and the illusions of Sysphsis? Or greek hades/purgatory?

[@reifk8807]

I think there are 3 Jess on board otherwise she won't be able to see a version of herself killing the masked herself

[@TheShattenjager]

The only references to Jesus begin no earlier than a few hundred years after his alleged time period. Conclusion: he’s fictitious.

[@okaycook1307]

Last shift looks like that grudge movie so imma vote for that

[@87HADES]

Nope not even close, it's wayyy better than The Ring

[@karasgold]

@@87HADES exactly

[@somedude6452]

Here's the Last Shift trailer. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaGTfHyonZ2br68

[@piyushnagawat24]

Last shift is awesome... I watched it at night and it scared the hell out... You should watch it first....

[@somedude6452]

Thematically you probably should see the UK 2015 film Let Us Prey as well. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGampJ6gbaaml9U The always great Liam Cunningham stars.

[@lawcane]

Sisyphus rolled the rock as punishment for cheating Death. Aeolus of Thessaly was his father. The image of Aeolus in the video is the god of the wind, no relation to Sisyphus.

[@kalligraphii]

yeah they said that in the movie. FoundFlix got a lot of things wrong in this video, that was clearly explained in the movie

[@lawcane]

@@kalligraphii I was hoping this movie was still on Netflix, but it wasn't. I remembered liking it, but thinking the same thing, that this video was off for some reason with some of the explanations. There was a website that broke this movie along with Primer down timeline by timeline in a mathematical style way. Very thorough.

[@AirQuotes]

He was not a god, he was a king.

[@TheTaintedWisdom]

@@lawcane You can watch it for free as long as you watch the ads on KZbin any time: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJStZWiIj7OfpbM And speaking of breaking down the movie: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4C1foR5fKuVers

[@lawcane]

@@AirQuotes The father of Sisphysus was a king named Aeolus. The boat was probably named after the god Aeolus, keeper of the wind. That's the image used in the video. But that guy has nothing to do with Sisyphus, even though Jess's task in the film is Sisyphian.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Thank you for bringing back the viewer’s choice ending explained. You’re the best.

[@maruwatchesyou8281]

Oh my god you are even here are you a time warping god?

[@7Namjoon]

This kinda reminds of the White Bear episode of Black mirror. Getting punished over and over yet forgetting you went through it each time. Its so that they don't get used to the torment and actually try fighting every time, even though they'll never win.

[@giovanniybanez5093]

judgement day- twighlight zone

[@neliaferreira9983]

I actually thought that having her forget was stupid. Which means that she only suffered for one day. Sure it repeats but it's always the first day to her. She never has the realization that she is trapped forever and the sense of hopelessness and despair it brings, because she always forgets. So really 1-day punishment is not too bad.

[@7Namjoon]

@@neliaferreira9983 you have a solid point

[@madmantheepic7278]

@@neliaferreira9983 exactly, the whole reason why these "looping" stories are scary is because of the fact most main characters fully experienced the constant looping, not losing their memories so that they only get a one day loop like Jess here.

[@DownTrodded]

Imagine your late in the loop you know everything but you have to convince and give first loop you this knowledge but you know no matter what you do they will start the loop so you kill yourself.

[@clarencegboddicker8144]

The band was also playing the same song as the record player on the liner

[@reasonablecheese]

Last shift sounds cool, I think I'd prefer that over Thirteen Ghosts.

[@LORDSofCHAOS333]

cool a fan of it just like me

[@philippecote8571]

Triangle is the most underrated of my favorite movies. Shits way deeper than ppl think.

[@nieznajomy4398]

Phelous better explained how confusing and full of plotholes this movie is. I mean you can love this movie like I love Independence Day but these movies aren't deep.

[@philippecote8571]

7 iterations of Jess in the loop and only 3 on the boat per cycle with 2 different cycles completing the loop. The way they progress how everything happens due to previous Jess's, I found to be very memento-like. Throw in some Sisyphean mythos plot twists along with Jess is a total bitch and killed her kid plot twist, it's a shame the movie only made a 12th of its budget. At least the writing behind the movie I find masterful, but I'm sure most people skipped this one expecting some teen slasher from the cover/trailer.

[@philippecote8571]

@@nieznajomy4398 Just watched Phelous's review and I feel like he's annoyed he's not reviewing anime the entire video. Although he adresses some plotholes, he also just gratuitously bashes the movie at any chance he gets for no reason and edits his video to make it look like a cheeseball. Of course there's some plotholes in the scenes we're shown, it's a predestination paradox about Jess's equivalent of purgatory. That's like being annoyed at super hero movies because humans don't have super powers. You can't have a predestination paradox without a plothole. Not to mention the whole parallel with Sisyphus cheating death, the point is how futile everything is regardless of him having pushed the boulder up the mountain countless times. How Jess thinks the loop works, what Jess hopes to accomplish with the loop and the variations between loops and iterations of Jess ARE ALL COMPLETLY IRRELEVANT. RELEVANT: Jess was a shit mother, got herself and her son killed, her spirit isn't at rest and refuses(cheats) to pass on to the afterlife and is therefore eternally in her personalized/repetitive Sisyphean purgatory. Although I'm sure Phelous would consider even the story of Sisyphus trash because there would have been marks of the boulder's previous passage on mountain or something. Lastly, come on man, you're going to compare this with Independence Day(good movie) depth-wise? That's just silly.

[@angrygreek1985]

I watched this movie a long ass time ago but just rewatched it. This time I noticed that in the car crash scene, there's the body of the Jess she killed at the house in her dress, and get son, but when the camera pans to her, the visual tone immediately changes. It gets really dark all of a sudden and there's some ominous music. The "driver" is clearly "Death" or something like that and this time loop she is continuously in is her personal version of Hell itself. Reliving the worst events of her life over and over and over for eternity.

[@petkokrushev3840]

Yes and when the taxi driver asks:"Can I give you a ride?", the color tone becomes even darker

[@Wayne-wo1wc]

However, she is not "reliving" because the alive one never went to the sea. Only the dead ghost went to the sea.

[@carl_consumer.of.reality]

@@Wayne-wo1wc That's what's confusing to me, because it's actually the Jess that already went through the loop that goes back on the boat. the Jess she kills never goes on the boat at all, so how does that work?

[@ontopx3887]

@@carl_consumer.of.reality there’s 1 Jess. She loses her memories everytime she sleeps on the boat.

[@tammyward1018]

Maybe the loop started when she killed herself and her son in a car accident on their way to the sail boat, and this is her purgatory or hell always trying to get back to her son only to be the one that kills him

[@prue5588]

What about the other people?

[@Bezaliel13]

@@prue5588 Yeah, good question.

[@CameronKujo]

What The Hell You're doing Jerry! Also in purgatory I’d assume

[@mcdaryllledo9356]

This is the lost LOOP in Miss Peregrine's home for Peculiar Children.

[@enbydude2123]

And it's all screwy bc there's no ymbryne combined with the strangeness of the Triangle

[@passiontaylor5493]

What I still don’t understand though is where “kill them all if you want to live” came from

[@Cesarhbb.]

Passion Taylor She would have to eliminate everyone on board and when the crew after that came to it she would try to get them to not stay on the boat ??? Or something like that

[@reversecard2063]

I am pretty sure that it was actually for her other self's, since in the end they pretty much all turn on each other

[@kennethwilliams6916]

Same here

[@billderberg6021]

She knows that it's the only way a new cycle begins after watching Sally die, followed by a new group showing up. This is when she starts actively trying to alter the cycle in hopes of breaking it. But she can't, and never will. Her attempts to break the cycle are, in fact, just another part of the cycle

[@itsfifi9347]

I watched this movie when I was 7 years old and I’ve been looking for it for the longest time... all I remembered was a girl pushing a guys head into a nail, the necklaces falling, and the potato mask. Finally, after 11 years... I found it again :)

[@daydayfordays4094]

Last shift is quite honestly the scariest movie ive ever seen besides the original Grudge

[@somedude6452]

I didn't find it scary at all.

[@somedude6452]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqCzpJ2NptuqipY The Nightmare (2015) is a documentary on what patients experience with sleep paralysis and night terrors. Now that is truly frightening.

[@seaofflowers.]

@@somedude6452 First hand sleep paralysis is terrifying, yes. But how was that documentary scary at all?

[@dizzymartian96]

Fr can't get over how scary that movie was

[@warrirornunluv801]

I would like to hear Last Shift, I never heard of it

[@hopethishelps91]

It's worth a watch. Really great horror movie. One girl in an abandoned building all by herself it's such a creepy movie

[@redmarble8879]

Yeah same

[@rperson8267]

It's on Netflix. It's always on the recommended list. It sounds good, but the box art looked off so I never gave it a try.

[@Crippledcripper]

Warrior Nun I wasn’t a fan but some will say it’s a good movie it just wasn’t my style

[@kizralynn1652]

Same

[@ceasarspartacus]

The driver is Charron, the ferryman. He must be paid to take you across the river styx, hence the meter running. This is usually depicted as 2 pense over the eyes of the dead.

[@TheBayzent]

Guess there is no inflation on Hades. Greek economics amirite.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@TheBayzent well they did have the good idea to make there currency gold so they always be vaulable

[@samwitherington4386]

I believe it was a coin in the mouth, but yes.

[@kimmikimmi7375]

I have always been intrigued by this movie. My take on Jess repeating the loops was at the end when the driver asks her if he can give her a ride....when she thinks for a moment, and then says take me to the harbor, knowing what she was going to have to endure... I always felt she was choosing to go and do it all again to be able to see her son alive again. She was willing to do it all over and over to be able to see him alive, and thats the only way she could achieve that. Thats always been my interpretation anyway. Exactly right on the driver being the ferryman..leaving the meter running for her. In greek mythology a coin was laid over each eyelid before burial so the dead would be able to pay the ferryman Charon to carry their soul across the river of styx. Excellent film.

[@LeahIsHereNow]

Very interesting… she does say, “I love my son” before killing some of the people again on the ship. I just can’t figure out if she just wants to see him again or if she’s actually trying to change the events and she knows that the only way to go back through the whole insane cycle is to get back on the sailboat. It is hard to know what she remembers.

[@razorchuckles]

I don’t think her decision to go to the harbor is about seeing her son alive again. I think it’s her determination to try one more time to alter events and hopefully break the cycle and save his life. If you’ll remember, in the opening scene, she is holding her son and telling him “It’s just a nightmare. All we have to do is change one thing and it will end.”

[@kingofbel6499]

This movie is EXTREMELY underrated. I watched it and it was already awesome then but after watching some other video analysis on youtube explaining what everything means it just made the movie even better. It`s legit one of the most well thought out time traveling movies out there.

[@DownTrodded]

Even the plot holes are part of the symbology and explanation for what’s going on now that’s mind boggling.

[@normeychiapatterson9559]

Thirteen Ghosts. It's at least a decent remake and one of the movies I saw during my childhood

[@sacaz9947]

@Shoudday Cha same

[@drybumm8079]

Normeychia Patterson same I watched it when I was like 7 and it scared the shit outta me

[@manuelg.8393]

Normeychia Patterson no idiots everybody already knows of the ghosts and their backgrounds, he’s not going to full detail on each ghost just the story

[@justinmcgrath3358]

This is one of the few movies I highly recommend watching before watching an ending explained

[@Jess-Rabbit]

I wish I had. I considered stopping this episode and watching the film but by the time I was halfway thru I felt like I ruined it for myself already

[@karabartley]

I actually watched an explanation and then the movie and I feel like I enjoyed it more because of it. A lot of people complained about it, they didnt understand the first watch, I thought it was really good. I'm glad to see there are others!

[@boom-jr8vi]

Shit.

[@samierking2256]

I'm getting roasted by my bro rn for watching endings explained and didn't watch the movies 😆

[@razorlord]

I watched the movie few years back, i totally agree with Justin

[@jacobortiz1569]

I think we're missing a big part. the ship aeolus is a reference to sisyphus. They explain it in the movie but the reason Sisyphus was condemned to pushing the rock up the mountain was not because he "cheated" death (like how jess walks away from the car crash alive) but because he broke a PROMISE with death. When the crash happens and the taxi driver shows up and drops her off, he asked her to please come back to which she replies she "promises" clearly breaking the promise just as Sisyphus. So she didnt cheat death but broke the promise to return which presumably means accepting her death and going into the after life. Which answering the last question i believe the loops starts when the car crash happens because jesse was supposed to die there Edit: another theory that i thought about was the reason the crash happend was because she was distracted with her son, who just watch his mother kill his mother and saw a seagull get hit by the car. So understandably he's probably very emotional causing jess to be emotional because she repeatedly says she wants to be different and that shes gonna be a better mommy and so seeing her son cry isnt a good feeling. Taking her eyes off the road to calm her son, she crashes killing herself and the kid. Now going back I BELIEVE the turning point of her murdering herself was when she slapped the son (WHEN HE DROPPED THE PAINT) Causing her to rethink her choices and get rid of that mommy to be a better mommy. But the REAL QUESTION is, would the son have dropped the paint if he didnt get spooked by a copy of his mother? SO REALLY SHE CASUED THE LOOP AND THE LOOP CAUSED HER

[@nanaabenadarkowaah1800]

I like this

[@DangoAnimations]

I leveled up to a new level of laziness by only watching these videos instead of actually watching the movies!

[@TheHitmanAgent]

What would be the next level? Listening to these videos as podcasts? 😂

[@80SPECTER08]

Same or I do it cause I don't typically watch movies

[@chazthurgood121]

That's not laziness. It is exactly what these videos are meant to be, a review at which you base whether you should watch this movie. If you like the opinion and overview then you know that you'd like the movie.

[@chazthurgood121]

The fact that I haven't seen this movie isn't relative, because I would have never even heard of it unless he made this video.

[@layahgrimes767]

I think that’s my worst fear. Being in a time loop

[@sharilshahed6106]

@@AwesomeAj44 Infinite grinding ala Edge of Tomorrow.

[@layahgrimes767]

AJ :] yeah if there was a way out I’d be okay with that lol

[@fenjazz4]

Maybe you are....Booooo!

[@JexyzFPS]

Take 5 tabs, you'll get there

[@MrJC1]

Well dont panic... you'll never end up in one. 🤣

[@camilogalvez7236]

I love 13 ghost, I always hope they did a movie with a more detail stories of every ghost !

[@DinGrogu16]

SAME!

[@bettyowens1535]

Yes!!

[@Syncbuzz]

@Michael S. whats a dumb kid doing here on youtube?

[@XxSeraphicxX]

Yay!! Love this movie!

[@josephskiles]

The DVD actually had a cool extra where all of their origins were explained, I've seen it on KZbin before so check it out, I think it's better than the movie to be honest

[@ParkerJColeAuthor]

I love FoundFlix's interpretation of this movie. I would add that the way to break the loop is for Jess not to kill herself when she comes full circle. There are parts of us I think we'd all like to get rid of, but we are who we are. As such, if Jess had CONFRONTED herself instead of KILLING herself, she'd break the loop. Sometimes we have to take a hard look at the person we are and just say, "I'm messed up." Throughout the entire movie, she's hiding from herself in some capacity. Darting from the mirror, the hall way, even putting on the mask, all indication of hiding. I believe had she given herself a stern talking to when she came full circle, to let her see she was about the lose her son, then it would have changed. The reason being is because she would have told herself about her mistakes. She had a unique opportunity to have a future version of herself meet her. Hopefully her former self, would have learned from her future self's mistakes. Then she could hopefully make different choices. Maybe. Maybe not. When she killed herself, she STILL wasn't thinking about her son. She was thinking about the ugly picture of who she was and she wanted to destroy it -- sort of like Dorian Gray. I believe this is proven when, while her son is hollering and screaming (can you blame him? He just saw his mom kill his mom MIND BLOWN!) she's trying to make him be quiet because it's affecting her. STILL showing that she's more focused on her desires than her son. Not that I blame her because kids making a lot of noise when you're trying to concentrate can be aggravating. But despite what she already knew, she still make the same mistakes because she refuses to confront herself. That's why loop continues as she avoid being honest with herself, the one person you should be honest with.

[@bar8665]

Good take!

[@acrj-alfasaus4825]

13:30-13:53 idk, she still mad at herself even tho it’s the “evil” version

[@memetboki]

Dang the last section of your comment makes me realizing on myself. Being honest to oneself is the hardest part, but in the same time is the most crucial part of self-development. One who always run from their life, never gets the fulfilling end. Just be honest to yourself, and you won’t be haunted by yourself all over again and again.

[@CeeBee781]

Love your analysis. Very thought provoking. And I think you are right about her confronting herself. By killing herself and taking herself‘s place, she is again acting selfishly and continues to be in denial, blaming her past self, thinking she is different than that person, and can fix everything, without confronting that they are one and the same, and confronting her true character.

[@Jordanmills93]

I have confidence that a lot of people have already seen 13 Ghosts so I'm putting my request for Last Shift.

[@nirajnemkul]

One of the most under-rated movie in history!!!

[@TheRealest127]

Ray Zee ABSOLUTELY!

[@dyev7096]

I loved this movie! Perfect mindfuck!

[@oliviaveraa]

Dy Ev my brain is literally spinning 😭😭

[@kanakvarma6580]

I loved the idea of the movie but it has plotholes..

[@Ebi.Adonkie]

I agree. This movie is better than Tenet in concept and execution

[@TommyTwoStep187]

Haven’t seen last shift in a couple years. That’s my vote

[@johnanthony2333]

I just watched the movie and I hate to quibble but I think it is important to the movie, Sally doesn't call Jess a psycho, she calls her a schizo, which leads me to think Jess may have suffered from schizophrenia and therefore may have been hallucinating the events after her son's passing(?)

[@22alfatih]

Good point.

[@pepperxiii]

backed up by the fact that Sally did not react at all to the pile of her own corpses.

[@zekellie_]

Thirteen Ghosts is a great movie. Even has some good comedic moments.

[@jasonbolding3481]

Mathew Lillard is a treasure

[@oYinYano]

What if keeping heather alive was the way to end the time loop

[@Dpeachbaby]

Emrys Stilinski I laughed so hard when I read this because not a single damn person working on this movie thought of this little trick and we know it 😂

[@hshhwjwhejuwhwhs7366]

@@Dpeachbaby so true!!!

[@xZehno]

How would that even work tho

[@asylnn]

How? When she’s supposed to die, it’s part of the loop 😂

[@Scien1211]

@@asylnn The Heather she killed at the house didn't crash the car. She crashed the car. It's reasonable to believe that keeping Heather alive might stop the accident from happening.Looking at the beginning and the ending, the Heather going on the boat knew her son was dead.

[@ixaix3218]

The seagull might be a reference to the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, since this movie seems pretty smart even if they do get their mythology a bit confused with Aeolus and Sisyphus.

[@mikecl07]

the movie had it right, Foundflix mispoke

[@DownTrodded]

@@mikecl07Yup it did say the right name the other name does appear on the boat but not on the side of the boat.

[@Dingobabee]

I find it interesting that Jess's only point where she could break the loop in a way she wants Is the one where she will always fail. She promises she'll never get angry like that at her son again. But her breaking that promise causes the crash that sends her back into the loop

[@13thfloor2]

that's what I thought too - that not breaking a promise to Death, but breaking a promise to her son to be a good mother sent her back to the loop. And when Death asked her if she comes back, maybe he already knew that she would eventually - after she resets the loop

[@DUSaggin]

is a few hole's in the story we did not follow with our jess, #1 where the one jess beats the other jess to death with the tool - not the one where jess swung the axe at the masked jess and she fell. #2 the jess that got shot in the head and stabbed the couple to death in the room. so i'm thinking that's how the jess we where following dies?

[@reifk8807]

moral of the story: keep your eyes on the road when you driving

[@mikehannigan6143]

How does she break her promise to her son?

[@LeahIsHereNow]

@@mikehannigan6143 she says she’s going to be a better mom, but loses patience with him almost immediately when they are driving after she hits the pigeon.

[@kanvaros4451]

Isn’t that Sisyphus not Aeolus with the Boulder ?

[@nicaea4489]

Yeah, I think so. That confused me so much.

[@deprimada3560]

They need to do their research because yea, youre right

[@salt8548]

thats correct, i was actually very irritated during this whole video by that wrong info lol

[@somedude6452]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus The Myth of Sisyphus by Camus was once just about required reading for any literate person.

[@briannelynn4227]

Yeah... the movie got this wrong. There’s even a figure of speech named after the guy, sisyphean task

[@raidenshat5206]

Am I the only person who gets that nostalgic feeling of living a simple life when you were younger and watching these type of movies back in 2009 8 and 10 he really recreates that feeling for me

[@user-mb9nm7bq5e]

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug

[@jcctwyllers]

@@user-mb9nm7bq5e so is crack. According to Rick James.xD

[@user-mb9nm7bq5e]

Jeremy Miller as a scholar of the arts, I know he said cocaine not crack sir

[@mizscoleman]

I was already old in 2009, but nostalgia knows no age.

[@JonathanXLindqviust]

You forgot to mention that Greg invited her out of nowhere for a reason.

[@JohnGalt916]

"Because the implementation"

[@PleasanceWolf]

@@JohnGalt916 implication

[@SolidSnake240]

@@JohnGalt916 way to fuck it up

[@solesoul2108]

@@SolidSnake240raw sauce

[@aiden12carter]

Krehlmar maybe a version of Jess got a chance to go back a few mins/an hour further called Greg agreed to go with him (I’m assuming that he was already interested in her and she kept shooting him down (no pun intended)) to set everything up to have the chance to change things (that’s why he asked her (seemingly out of the blue) to go on the boat trip)......I’m guessing cause this movie 😩😭

[@catherinebucad6937]

I also believe that the only way to finish the loop is to accept who she really is because I notice that the other JESS in the ship kinda looks like her other personality because think about it if all of herself work together there will be no killings and no deaths. Also, in the end, the driver is kinda giving her the option of whether she will accept the ride or accept her faith(death) but then she accepts the ride to save or see her son again or probably to change her faith (which looks like she continued to cheat death reason for her to experience the punishment) which continues the loop.

[@serene1275]

She should had stay in the taxi and not go to the harbor hence break the repeated loops and be free crossing over.

[@TheShattenjager]

Fate, not faith.

[@billderberg7982]

I want to lay this out for those of you who don't get the time loops. There are 2 different versions of Jess. each version has 3 cycles, meaning there are 6 different phases at play here.and there are 3 versions on the boat at any time. Jess 1 follows the path we see from her perspective.Jess 1 has 3 cycles ------------------------------------------------------- Phase 1 - J1 Cycle 1 - She boards the boat.Gets strangled. ends up getting attacked by the masked killerpushes the masked killer overboardOn board: J1-1, J2-2, J1-3 ------------------------------------------------ She is now J1 cycle 2 Phase 2 - J1 cycle 2 - She tries to intervene and stop the events from happening.She points the gun at newly boarded Jess (J2-1) She intervenes in the theatre and momentarily saves downey and sallyShe leaves them, and (J2-3) eventually kills them in the room with the knife. She tries to help Sally, but realizes after following Sally and seeing a pile of dead Sallys that she did not break the cycle. eventually sees the newly boarded jess kill the masked killer with the crowbar from the top deck.On board in this phase: J1-2, J2-3, J2-1---------------------------------------------She is now J1-3Phase 3 - J1 Cycle 3 - She grabs the mask, and shoots Greg in the theatre.She kills Downey and Sally in the theatre, and goes after the newly boarded Jess.She ends up getting pushed over board by the newly boarded Jess (J1-1)On board: J1-3, J2-1, J2-2)------------------------------------------Phase 4 - Takes place entirely on land. This phase is a side phase, and only Real world jess (who she kills with the hammer) and J1 exist as far as we know here. She dies in the crash, takes the taxi and boards the ship. This is the complete cycle we see on screen. But there are more phases shown in the movie, and they fit as follows.*****************************************The second Jess and her Cycles:-------------------------------------------------------------- Phase 5 - J2 cycle 1 - she boards the ship.She has a gun pointed at her by J1-2.She ends up killing the masked killer (J2-3) with the crowbar while J1-2 watches from the top deck.She will now become J2-2On board: J2-1, J1-2, J2-3)------------------------------------------Phase 6 - J2 Cycle 2 - She remains hidden throughout, at least from what we see on screen On Board: J1-1,J2-2,J1-3------------------------------------------------She is now J2-3Phase 7 - Jess 2 Cycle 3 - She has become fully aware that the only way to get back to her son is to kill the others on the boat.She shoots greg in the theatre, but J1-2 intervenes and she is able to save Downey and Sally. She ends up killing Downey and Sally in the room with the knife.She fails to kill them all in this final phase. She ends up being killed by J2-1 with a crowbar, while J1-2 watches from the top deck On board: J2-3, J1-2, J2-1---------------------------------------- The reset. After phase 7 J2-3 is deadJ1-2 will become J1-3 J2-1 will Become J2-2J1-1 (the original Jess) boards the Ship, and the cycle restarts. --------------------------------------------------------- If you follow each Phase, pay attention to who dies, and who kills who, and who is still alive.. you will find that There is no other options for who exists in each phase aside from what I have laid out here.If you find any holes in this, please let me know and I will try to explain the sequence.The only things that are unknown are what (if anything) happens to J2-3 after she is killed. Does she meet the taxi driver again?I would love to see an extended short for the story of Jess 2.All phases to help you follow: ----- 1 J1-1, J2-2, J1-3 -------- 2 - J1-2, J2-3, J2-1 ---------- 3 - J1-3, J2-1, J2-2 -------- 4 - On land --------- 5 - J2-1, J1-2, J2-3 (Same as Phase 2) --------- 6 - J2-2,J1-1,J1-3 (same as phase 1) ---------- 7 - J2-3, J1-2, J2-1 (same as phase 2)

[@Sm0k3turt]

bill derberg this is confusing but thank you?

[@alvindavisii9692]

bill derberg thank you for this...

[@greeneyedbandit7950]

bill derberg Whew! 🥴🥴🥴. Thanks!

[@HappyGirl870]

Perfect summary!! It helped me a lot!! Thanks!! You just have two little mistakes there, which confused me a little. In "On board" overwiews: In phase 2 is on board J2-3, NOT J1-3 and in phase 3 is on board J1-1, NOT J2-1, You have it correct in text, but wrong in those two "on board" overwiews which you have at the end of each phase. ;) I think that J2-3 just dies as others, after those hits she looked dead when J2-1 threw her in water, anyway for me J2 is not important, she is created by acts of J1 in second phase, because of that I see whole J2 like a "side product" so np if she is killed during loop, because for me this is about J1 and it matters only on her. I also think that the reason why J1-3 survives is because she was not hit in a head by that crowbar like J2-3, she is just pushed in the water alive and then the ocean magically carried her on beach to face phase 4.

[@billderberg7982]

yea.. you right. about the J2-3 thing.. But J2 is certainly not irrelevant. Just because we do not see directly from that specific perspective doesn't make it any less real. There could be an entire movie done from the entirety of J2's perspective..

[@weed3728]

13 ghost I would love your take on the backstories of the ghosts

[@0enu]

This movie gives a different meaning to the "killed herself"

[@dmitrysamoilov5989]

regret x infinity

[@HotPinkst17]

I'd love to see a groundhog day style sequel to this film where Jess learns to love herself and not solve every problem with violence.

[@greybeard6504]

When I first started watching this for the first time, many years ago, I thought it was gonna be a low budget crap movie. It really grew on me. Now, it’s one of my favorites and recommend it to people. First time I watched it, the scene where the chick crawls into a pile of her many dead selves, really stuck with me. I’ve watched this movie several times.

[@Dancer10105]

I am going to go watch it today actually since this review and your comment had just made it absolutely official

[@peach8440]

You’re the only person who could pull off that hairstyle

[@kendybanana3815]

Thats true

[@bonibon6669]

I was about to comment that 🤣

[@Clartred]

If that's you on the profile picture, gz to you :D

[@luhdoof]

Beth Nightingall and he couldn’t pull off any other hairstyle

[@cookingpapa7018]

Last Shift. Never heard of it but sounds interesting as hell

[@tombkings6279]

It's awesome

[@jeffreyakong]

I watched it years ago. Not that many horror films really spook me but this one’s an exception. I definitely recommend watching it.

[@ill-fatedantidote]

Damn.. I quit watching it like ten minutes in cuz it seemed cliché and boring but these comments make wanna go give it another try

[@RIPToNateDoggIHadToRegulate]

Good flick about a police officer's last shift at a closing police station.

[@jbjacobs9514]

I agree! Last Shift!

[@ezekielsmith8603]

I'm not finished the video yet, but i think the theme of the movie has to do with making a change in yourself/ your behaviour. Jess tries to change to be a better person/mother and even tries to do away with her old self, but she inevitibly circles back to impatient and abusive outbursts in a loop.

[@brendanmccormack9191]

My vote goes to “last shift”

[@derrynkai]

i just love it when FoundFlix does little skits during his reviews

[@CZsWorld]

Hell yeah, this is one of my top 10 favorite movies of all-time!

[@sreeshmachandran84]

Love ur vedios czs world

[@sreeshmachandran84]

I love ur vediosss

[@BrentDuncan]

Same... among donnie darko , terminator 2, vanilla sky, the crazies, Wanted, Salt...

[@RelativelyBest]

See, if I was stuck in a time loop and found a whole pile of notes telling me to kill everyone, and they were all written by me, I would conclude that trying to kill everybody _obviously_ isn't going to work. Actually, wait... Who wrote that note in the first place? Because it's the exact same note Jess wrote on her first turn of the loop just to confirm that it was her handwriting and that was before she decided to go slasher villain on everyone. So, _that_ doesn't make any sense. o__O

[@DownTrodded]

Yea it does there’s a second loop happing to a different version of her there’s 3 jesses running around and one of them made a second loop by falling to kill a Jess at some point. If more jesses fail to die even more loops will be made because all versions of Jess cause loops to happen.

[@renatoramos8834]

The time loop can't go on forever because eventually the cadavers would cover the ship.

[@jairverplaats153]

Maybe time is distorted during the events in the movie. Some of the bodies could act like the buffet wich also stated to rot pretty quick

[@billderberg6021]

@@jairverplaats153 my theory in the food is that we are watching multiple different loops, compiled into one. A reason I beleive this is during the record skip scene. It shows her glitching around, as if it is showing multiple times of this happening, but with very slight varuations., But never enough to alter the events. We could piece together loop 1 where the food was fresh, to loop 50 where the food is rotten... But the events stay the same. After so many loops, there is a full reset, and the bot is refreshed. No blood, and fresh food.

[@jairverplaats153]

@@billderberg6021 that sounds even better than what I thought, I really need to rewatch this movie

[@mirandal.9200]

ah.. so this is the movie I saw once and thought was a fever dream.

[@doriangrace7265]

That's what she(jess) said

[@Lurker404]

Yep. I remember my mum watching it and being so confused

[@JoyL232j]

I don’t know if it’s just me but his small skits are so funny and I find myself enjoying it with out even knowing.

[@carrieannefaithfull2044]

So my theory is even though we don't see it on screen, Jess accidently killed her son by physically hurting him, put his body in the duffle bag in the trunk of car but died in a car accident leaving Florida to bury the body (hence the sign). She was frantic talking to him even though he is dead and wracked with guilt that she was too distracted while driving or intentionally crashed her car as a form of suicide. Her boy is in heaven but she is in a hell of her own making separated from him. This is why she returns to her house and kills the Jess in the soiled sundress before the original Jess can kill her son. Even when she tries to change the loop to save her son and take him with her on her journey (to hell), the result is the same. Plus, why would she be meeting her friends in a sundress with paint spilled on it? An adult woman couldn't fit in a duffle bag or clothing bag could realistically The setting is in Miami but she's leaving the state of the Florida both literally and metaphorically to bury his body. She was so angry about her autistic son keeping her from enjoying her one day off because she was so determined to go yachting with Greg. Sisyphus was known for trickery. He broke his promise to come back on the River Styx which is how he cheated death and why he was punished. I was reminded of Casey Anthony- a Florida woman who accidently killed her child to go party with friends which happened 11 months prior to this movie being released.

[@DownTrodded]

She did kill her son that is og version but she doesn’t do any of this she just leaves his body and goes to the boat after the boating experience og Jess expects to be arrested but dies at sea gets washed up goes back to stop og then shoved her chopped up body in the duffel bag then the rest plays out the washing up at the sea is the first part of the loop. Notice how in order for the son to spill the paint he has to be spooked by a copy of his mother the only place for the beginning of the loop to make sense and be logical is if she died at sea that would also explain why her friends are in purgatory with her. They died with her and are a part of her not beginning able to let go she’s keeping them here by convincing them they aren’t dead.

[@izaanmasud2708]

M y b o i -Foundflix 2019

[@Ug1yCryptid1987]

Omg I thought I was the only person who's ever seen triangle I loved this movie so much when I first saw it in liked it cause even though it was hard to follow it was just good enough for me to understand

[@rosemarywilliams9969]

Anything about time in any formats is worth taking a look for me😜

[@billderberg6021]

I watched it twice in a row just so I could figure the timelines out. Absolutely underrated movie. Will eventually become a classic tho for sure.

[@Ug1yCryptid1987]

@@billderberg6021 honestly it was so good

[@schw0ftygaming696]

"just a random pokey thing sticking out" *ropes hanging off identical pokey things 2 feet to its right*

[@tbessi12-DZ]

The film is a horror and psychological tragedy because Jess was subjected to eternal punishment by the Olympian gods because she is a nervous person who abuses her autistic son, and after she died and her son was in the accident, she regretted it after it was too late, so she returned every time with the same terrifying scenario, just so she could live an hour with her son before they died in the accident for the first time. To infinity... Suppose that the Olympian gods punish her for rejecting the blessing and not feeling its value until after it is lost (like eternity in hell)

[@kneau]

Seeing this in my notifications, knowing how often at least one individual has been requesting a video on ‘Triangle’ - fills me with determination.

[@mackenziekarsonovich1073]

I have a legit fear of being stuck in a situation like in the movie. I’ve had night terrors about it in the past. There’s just something so deeply unsettling about being trapped in some sort of time never ending time loop or location where you can’t escape no matter what. The Grave Encounters movies also wig me out for the same reason. Just no.

[@aryannakalel5712]

Thirteen Ghost. I remember seeing this a long time ago with my mom. I was so confused, but I enjoyed the movie so much. I would love to see an ending explained

[@nicholasfaithful7708]

The biggest unanswered question for me is Bad Jess. We don't follow our jess through the stages of becoming Bad Jess and killing herself on the deck or slashing Henry's throat and stabbing Sally. The masked Jess seems to be Bad Jess but when our Jess becomes the Masked Jess the slashing and stabbing doesn't happen.

[@tigerlau8593]

Agreed! Literally everything comes “full circle” EXCEPT the bad Jess that kills Downey in that room. I’ve tried looking up any theory I could find, and none are satisfactory. Bad Jess is the only outlier

[@cobby-lz4bh]

Thats because there is an even and uneven loop. The even loop is our jess that constantly relives everything and the uneven jess is the one that becomes bad evil slash jess and kills the masked jess.

[@tigerlau8593]

I did see one comment that I liked that may be what you're referring to. The broken loop Jess (the one that gets a gun pointed at her by our jess) eventually kills a Bad Jess, gets stuck in the mindset of killing, gets the mask, kills downey in that room, attacks Sally, then as she is masked - she. gets killed by herself, completing her loop

[@sumilism]

@@tigerlau8593 that because bad jess knows she must kill all to escape

[@tigerlau8593]

@@sumilism Yeah exactly

[@princessjames7892]

13 ghosts has been my favorite movie since I watched it when I was like 10

[@joogullae3456]

Me too! I saw it around the same age I was in the 6th grade. The bathrooms scene scared me so much I couldn't go to the bathroom alone for almost a year ha ha

[@queenfree85]

Triangle is one of my fave horror/suspense movies of all time for the absolute mindfuck it is to try to figure out without multiple watchings. I'm sooo happy to see an Ending Explained on this!!! I already voted in the poll too and having seen both the movies I'm hoping Last Shift prevails!

[@eunoia6174]

watch predestination, the mindf k is worse

[@queenfree85]

@@eunoia6174 thanks for the tip! I'll def check it out!

[@finalascent]

Christopher Smith makes taut, above-average thrillers. I hope he keeps making movies for a LONG time...

[@otimo144]

11:30 so the loop might end when the ship is full of lockets and no one can get on board lol

[@JustCallMeCeles]

Last Shift was a really good movie.