OBS Ford F250 Modifications for RV towing

[@MarkVanTasell]

AS A 460 OWNER MY BIGGER CHANGE WAS AN EGR BLOCK OFF PLATE/GASKET

[@d0peshow]

Why did you switch to aftermarket ignition?

[@jimburson2226]

Iv'e done all of your mods in my 91 f240 4x4, plus i put a Dana 60 up front, when i replaced the engine i found a 460 RV engine (heavy duty!) Also those air inlet hoses & the air filter box have been wrapped with heat reflective tape, which lowers the air intake about 40 degrees. Mine is a work truck

[@PamelaSergent]

im using my wifes comp i have a 95 f350 dullay 7.5 i like your channal

[@krry9191]

Currently can't find the 4 core rad. And it's the only link not listed.

[@joshuaisbell2543]

How does your truck pull your camper uphill? I have a 96 F250 7.5 460 and I will have it to the floor and will lose mph even with it to the floor.

[@krry9191]

Awesome because I get a gasser due to the long time sitting and immense cold my truck goes through so instructional vids are nice

[@petereinacher2007]

Fox body. I have a 94 f250 with a 7.5 liter. When towing heavy loads do you suggest hauling with Overdrive off with the E4OD? I’m heading from multiple sources I should. What’s your advice

[@Foxboss9]

No overdrive on heavy pulls

[@pcwizzy460]

The non HD is 6,800-7,700lbs.

[@christopherparamdeo815]

Man I wish you had a 24v Cummins so I could just follow in your footsteps

[@Mythoughtonit]

I just purchased this truck im so excited buy a slide in camper I want to do these mods but no one wants to do it for me any recommendations

[@tomoski8840]

The 2018 and up twin turbo V6 has tons of torque right from idle. Between 2000-3000 rpm your at 400+ TQ. Its 80K too. I'll stick with my '88 460 F250.

[@noontimewhale]

i had a 90 460 5 speed and loved it! those big blocks love long tube headers love the review!

[@salvadorcisneros]

What other fuel injectors can I use on my 7.5l other then motor craft parts

[@RollingThunder85]

What size belt did you use I have hedman headers

[@OldGriz708]

How do you figure you wouldn't have over weight legal issues until 16,000lbs?

[@markw4382]

HUH????? Do you have an Update, as to WHY, haver these videos to upgrade your F250,.... You bought a new truck?

[@Foxboss9]

I bought two new trucks since this video. We live on the road full time and no matter how nice I think that old truck was I did not necessarily have the means and ability to pull over to the side of the road and make major repairs Towing an RV. And currently we have a 20 20 F350 with the 73 gas and we're towing a fifth wheel that the 460 couldn't even come close to having the capacity to haul

[@christopher6161]

13mpg on a 460 is pretty damn good

[@codeygrrr12]

Been looking for the 4 row radiator you found still can't find it check advanced auto in my parts and just two rows

[@Foxboss9]

My wife was the manager of Advance Auto Parts. At the time I had her get into one of the books and look up an ambulance radiator that would fit into that truck. She then saw that it was an option on her computer for some years of those older trucks but not all. You'll have to find somebody that's willing to look up other vehicles and you'll have to know the size of your radiator and where your Inlet and Outlets are including your transmission Inlet and Outlet to make sure that what they have in their books matches what you have.

[@joshualymer6568]

I no old video but I love that truck what did you do with it

[@Foxboss9]

I sold it to a gentleman who also loved the old body style F250. Actually he's using it for work he is a bricklayer.

[@joshualymer6568]

On a scale from 1 to 10 10 best do you think the BBK TB was worth it and also my 460 is the 3 bolt style FPR I don’t think I have and adjustable option but you no everything about those trucks

[@ChrisSmith-rv5wb]

I know this is an older video but wanted to see if you were still happy with the exhaust or if you had made any more upgrades to the exhaust?

[@mikefriesen19]

This truck is awesome keep the obs ALIVE

[@tjmoto4780]

One thing to look into if you have to do a timing set is replace the OEM with a set from a 429. The 460 timing sets have the camshaft timing retarded. The 429 sets are straight up. You'll gain power across the board with no other mods.

[@davisstephens8405]

You really need to invest the $17 into a degree wheel to be 100% sure of your can timing

[@boogiemangaming7550]

What yr is your truck

[@Foxboss9]

97

[@lorenzomunoz325]

Where did you get the 4 core radiator for the truck?

[@VictorGonzalez-hj1vr]

new to Ford love the 460 hate the setup on my rv ( E350) best information on youtube it has been lots of help

[@Foxboss9]

Victor Gonzalez 👍😁

[@VictorGonzalez-hj1vr]

doing the injectors regulator and need a new throttle body bbk 61mm headers next

[@manfredneurohr3084]

Can I use a distributor from a RV with 460 engine in my 92 f350

[@Foxboss9]

You'll have to compare the 2.... Make sure gear is made of same material... Of course all dimensions need to be exact.....

[@-MOYST-]

What wires would you recommend for a 7.3 obs?

[@dougreno3391]

Ain't nothing like a fuel injected big block for towing . I also am the proud owner of a 460 powered OBS

[@Foxboss9]

👍😆

[@noodles2112]

I have a 1995 F-250 (2wd) with the 7.5 and 4:10 gears and a gvwr of 8800 but it does not have the heavy duty badge any ideas why?

[@doublelung5746]

Because it's not a heavy duty it's a 3/4 pile of crap

[@RCBASHERTRUCK]

Just bought a 93 f250 with 105k now so I'm looking at doing some towing upgrades, plan on towing my 89 bronco to Wyoming from California

[@markw4382]

NO Emissions laws,....... What is the Large "box" (with sm tubes) Between the Battery & AC recovery tank? I have a catalytic converter etc (bought in CO. live in MI) Yet do not have that box.

[@Foxboss9]

Gas tank vent vapor recirculation canister.... It's sort of a emissions thing however it's also a great idea having all the gas fumes being captured instead of venting underneath the bed of the truck... Especially a rusty one with a fiberglass cap on the bed...

[@Foxboss9]

Sorry, disregard previous reply. That is not a box that is a vacuum Reservoir canister. It helps with keeping the vacuum on a constant usable level. There are a lot of valves that use vacuum and need to have vacuum available at all times even when the engine isn't creating as much vacuum as it normally would. I don't know that many trucks that don't have vacuum canisters. My F150 with a 302 had it and my Lincoln Town Cars had it all the way back to 1972. A lot of race street cars run vacuum canisters because their cams are so large they don't create vacuum very well and they need it for their power brakes.

[@mrfrog3350]

I am 100% in agreement with you on the 460 vs diesel. Also, if you can afford $40k, and you put the $6k into your current truck, $34k is a lot of cash you'll have for fuel,campsites, repair/maintenance etc, not to mention you know every nut and bolt on your truck and can still work on it yourself with basic hand tools. I don't trust these new computers disguised as trucks! That new overdrive unit would be sweet.

[@jeremiahryland3376]

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[@jasonmakai1576]

@Jeremiah Ryland flixportal :D

[@jeremiahryland3376]

@Jason Makai thanks, signed up and it seems to work =) I appreciate it !!

[@jasonmakai1576]

@Jeremiah Ryland no problem xD

[@michaelsarabiarockymountai9654]

How many miles did this truck have ? Before you sold it

[@noahgaray7923]

How much did that 4 core radiator set you back? It looks like a factory ford style. Is that one for a 7.3? Interesting on the oil cooler. My 86 has a regular cooler next to the trans cooler. Having both a FI 460, and a carbed 460, this is some great info. For the air horn you cut out, I say good! I cut mine last fall no difference. This winter I had to pull off the air hoses and broke the IAC hose nipple. Pulled one off a 95-97 e350 box van. Lo and behold there was no air horn. Ford eliminated it.

[@Foxboss9]

The radiator was listed at Advance Auto parts for $215...it was shown as an option on the 460 truck from 1996

[@Billy_Darley]

ive got a '90 version of this and plan to have a similar trailer. thinking of doing some similar stuff. power costs money that i dont have much of, so im thinking of just making basic improvements like bosch matched injectors, ignition coil/plugs/wires, alternator, bigger radiator, better muffler and or headers but i also already need new front springs and of coarse have to buy the trailer still. i figure two yrs from now ill be ready to hit the road.

[@jennifurzoe1302]

I love my '87 F250 XLT Lariat,460 c.i.d.(last year of carburetor)and a gear vendors under/over drive,however I found recently that 429 & 460 loves to break exhaust manifold bolts..the G-Vendors worth it for towing.

[@guitarminds8529]

do these mods also apply for an 88? got an F250 HD, single cab, long bed, 5 speed and the efi 460, want to do emissions delete, exhaust and so on forth.

[@Foxboss9]

SebRodz. SebRodz yep... Mostly the same... Can't think of anything specifically different..

[@michaelbuitenhuis3727]

True,i guess it works for what you are doing

[@Seasniffer1969]

Oh my, what a beautiful rig. Never ever sell it.

[@ronwest7930]

The conversion to MAF seems a bit steep. Maybe a 5.0 computer reflashed and set up for larger injectors. A special wire harness laying beside the stock harness. I figure 800 bucks. Still a bit pricey for me. Engine? A stroker kit with a bore job and different heads. Still way cheaper than a new truck. I wish I knew more about newer 460 computers (maybe one or two years of this)and being able to put this on my 92. The MAF would make for more camshaft selections.

[@mark98070]

What symptoms were you experiencing when you found the broken wire in your coil harness? Which wire was broken, power or signal? I had an instance where I was waiting for a traffic light, and the engine (5.0) just died, as if I turned the key off. Started right up again but, I never found the cause.

[@Foxboss9]

I'm not sure which one it was...It was right at the plug at the coil..

[@bobthomas9143]

I had a similar experience with my 95 f250, very frustrating. Long story short it turned out that the entire distributor was going bad. Engine would die either when it got warmed up or it was wet out. Put in a new distributor and never had another problem.

[@mark98070]

I've heard that the pick-up coil inside the distributor goes bad on these. Probably best that you changed the distributor instead of trying to just change the pick-up coil which can be very difficult. What engine do you have? How many miles on it? Did you get an aftermarket or a rebuild? I don't think you can get OEM anymore.

[@bobthomas9143]

mikey mike I believe I picked up the distributor at O’ Reilly’s, aftermarket. I have the 460 running about 125,000 miles.

[@scottlavine1530]

have you adjusted timing?

[@Foxboss9]

Scott LaVine I think I bumped it up 4 degrees... I didn't want to go too crazy because pinging starts more easily at lower RPMs under a load. And of course Towing is definitely under a load. Also we did our Florida trip in July where the heat index was 104 degrees. Even though I ran premium fuel, I wanted the option to run the cheap stuff. I could probably afford more timing but it's pretty good where it's at.

[@scottlavine1530]

Foxboss9 here in Colorado I run my 5.0 at 14 before tdc. And run cheap fuel no issues

[@CodyYankey]

Have you done any aero modifications to the truck? Maybe a lower front air dam, stream line a few other things? Very nice quality of life improvements to the truck. Love to see the thought process and practical application.

[@josie9079]

Did you make a video on the install of the msd ignition controller? I like to put one on my 97 f250hd

[@Foxboss9]

Jeffrey Sierks stay tuned I have one coming out soon...

[@Foxboss9]

Sorry partner, I just realized I had already done a install video... Here is the link -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaDUd4JjidSpoas Although this shows a f150 It is identical on the install part

[@Foxboss9]

BTW. I will be reviewing a better warrantied ignition box soon...You can see that within a few days

[@MrWells-tl8il]

How hard is the MSD ignition to install and how does it work for you? I got one for my95 f350 460 I haven't put it yet .

[@Foxboss9]

It works fine, smooth idle, You have to buy very good plug wires amzn.to/1Iasi1s and increase your plug gap... easy to install..get the MSD harness for ford coils amzn.to/1FmwTwM OR amzn.to/1HwAviQ makes it even easier.. Aftermarket coil good idea also amzn.to/2LeM1TW

[@hunterlemastdr97]

Foxboss9 do you still have your Hedman y pipe?

[@Foxboss9]

No, I sold headers and Y-pipe to another 460 F250 guy here locally...

[@hunterlemastdr97]

Trying to buy the Hedman y pipe alone is a real pain I ordered thinking of just putting headers and take it to the exhaust shop but after getting quoted 500 for all I figured if I could buy a y pipe for 100 and have around 275 in building my exhaust it’d be worth it

[@Foxboss9]

@@hunterlemastdr97 the Ypipe is nothing special... Definitely the headers replacing the manifolds is where most of the performance will come from... So I would get the headers and have a shop fabricate the ypipe back to the tail pipe..

[@hunterlemastdr97]

Foxboss9 did you notice a real power difference from manifolds to headers, before the truck would barely break the tires loose, I’m hoping it will come it life, my next upgrades are the throttle body and bigger injectors and regulator

[@conquest562]

Thanks man. I currently own three 460's. Two efi and an 87, last few units built with carburator. I hope you make a video for out of tank mounted electric fuel pumps. I'm starting to feel hatred for the tank selector valves on these things.

[@Foxboss9]

I think my son's van has a frame mounted pump(87 club wagon) and he wants me to convert his tank.. If I do I'll get a video of it..

[@patkallin3402]

Great Video. On this vedio you mention near 5.0 min. that you installed a 4 Core radiator into your 1997 F-250 from Advance Auto, but didn't mention a part #. Is there a part # I can refer too?

[@christopher6161]

i would just keep your 460 stock, they can make insane horsepower but you will crush your MPG i think. the gearvenders thing is bad ass and i am curious about it but i kind of doubt that its good for towing your large loads. have you considered a 5.9 conversion?

[@johnhodg8400]

good thoughts. nice truck , in very good shape. good for you.

[@oby-1607]

Cummins 12 valve with a kit from Diesel Conversions will go a long way for your fuel economy. With your skills, it would be nothing for you to install. I have a '94 with the crew-cab and with the 460 and fuel economy is something we don't discuss because there is none. Air bag kit will make a huge difference in those long trips. Where I live, a new Ford with all the options and the towing capacity, you are knocking on the door of easily over $80,000. One of my buddies went over $100,00 with his 350. More money than I can afford.

[@Foxboss9]

New Truck OTD $39,000 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKinZYCghrljnMk

[@johngraham9704]

Thanks for all the incredibly informative and helpful videos on the F250. I have a 97 F250 HD 460 7.5L also however I have the 4x4. Been doing alot of work on her as she has 210k but the motor is strong. I live in Colorado, I have a question for you on the 4 core radiator. Do you have a part # or link to the one you installed? I get alot of heat build up climbing the steep inclines and she shut down on me once due to overheat. I have a new water pump, thermostat, fan clutch, and even radiator however It's 2 core and I am unable to find a 4 core for that vehicle.

[@Foxboss9]

Glad my videos are helpful. My wife has work for Advance Auto Parts for the last 21 years and has been the manager for the majority of that time. When I had her look up my radiator she said that there was a 4 core radiator that was listed for it. So you may want to check with your local Advance Auto Parts. One thing that you may want to consider that you may not have done already is a high-flow thermostat and also a high-volume water pump.

[@johngraham9704]

@@Foxboss9 I will look into those options. I am also venturing into RVing. I completely agree with your philosophy of old vs. new especially on this model truck. I love the power, size, and body style. Thanks for the response and keep the videos coming please!

[@pacman5511]

@@johngraham9704 sir I have the exact same truck as you with about 220k miles

[@pacman5511]

Have you done any mods for the 4x4?

[@lomsomesGarage]

I think those are based off the ambulance chassis the one we had at the farm was

[@esmith836]

Really great video lots of good information.

[@Foxboss9]

eric smith 👍😁 Thank you!

[@aegiscaleb]

If anyone is knowledgeable with the 7.5l please let me know. Just bought a 92 F350 Dually with the 7.5 and would like some help. Thanks

[@mark98070]

Which brand of injectors did you choose? Get them from Summit? I believe I have a leaker and don't want to change out just 1 or 2, Probably best to do all 8. Is Delphi a brand you trust? Seems to be lots of cheap ones on Amazon, but not sure I want to risk buying junk! The Motorcraft ones seem really expensive.

[@Foxboss9]

I did a Bosch style(new design) flow matched... Contact the company direct... Here's the link amzn.to/2IsTUEg

[@anywaythewindblows5004]

We have enough upper middle class rv ers with new trucks and airstream trailers and overproduced videos on you tube. One thing I enjoy about your channel is you do it more on a budget.Also you use your mechanical skills to improve your situation rather than just money. Many people will have to make older stuff work. That includes me. I have a 93 gmc 2500hd with a 6.5 turbo diesel.Rebuilding a surplus humvee engine that has next to no wear.It is the optimizer engine that got rid of the problem gm had with the engine.I will know this truck from top to bottom.So I feel I can fix this on the road no problem.I'm also a federal lisenced aircraft mechanic. I have yet to buy a trailer as of now.But I have two years to go before hitting the road.My youngest is 17. Keep up the great videos and keep it real. Robert

[@christopher6161]

i agree, a lot of RV asshats who just bought a 100k rig or something

[@joshuastevens5910]

Christopher Wall Same with the rodeo world lol. I pull a 8 horse stall trailer with living quarters with my 12 valve Cummins. Pulls it plenty well. Done mod work for more power to it and during the winter time around where I live I’ve pulled loaded semis out of being stuck.

[@935frank]

Hi we follow you on your other Chanel, RV Daydream, by the way it's very good but i didn't know about this one, now we are a family of campers and we have 3 grandsons from 3 years to 11 & 14 here in the north of you, so my daughter wanted a bigger camper for the boy's, she got a big camper and she got and older ford van with a 460 motor to pull the camper, well we also had to get a bigger camper because the boy's love to hang out with grandma plus we can take our bike, so two campers, a 38' and a 25' toy huller, I'm going to make some change's to her E-350 van, she loves it and we had to jump up to a larger truck as well V-10 Excursion , keep up the good work on KZbin

[@ThisGuyIThink]

You oughtta convert it to mass air efi

[@Foxboss9]

Matt Vineis I know. Really I know. I could piece it together from a junkyard but that $1,600 kit comes with an air fuel adjuster and it's already done in a package. It might happen. Of course I'll do a video on it!👍😁

[@ThisGuyIThink]

Foxboss9 completely 100 percent worth it

[@sagebrush308]

What does that do?

[@ThisGuyIThink]

@@sagebrush308 it's a more efficient EFI that ford developed for the engine later on, a bit more power, a bit better mileage, far better at responding to mods

[@bobthomas9143]

First of thank you for all the videos. Im doing many similar things on my RV tower. I’m getting ready to install a 4row radiator in my 95 f250 XLT rwd. It has a built in radiator cooler in the new radiator. I’m stuck on what to use for a fan. Thought of using stock without the fan clutch and bolt it straight in, thoughts? BTW what did you do with the AC condenser that sits in front of the radiator? I don’t see it in the video.

[@Foxboss9]

A perfectly functioning clutch fan will move more air than any electric fan on the market. That is information that was given to me directly from Derale... if you remove your fan clutch your gas mileage will be horrible. The general rule of thumb is anything above 40 miles an hour doesn't require a fan. So you definitely want to have a clutch that will disengage and cause less drag on the engine. I still have my AC condenser and it's stock location I'm not sure why it was difficult to see in the video. For more engine cooling options check out my other video where I installed an after-market oil cooler. There are more close up pictures of the AC condenser on that video. My truck has the stock fan and a Severe Duty clutch. I believe I need to upgrade my water pump however to a high flow water pump as the extra coolant that the radiator offers in the system is causing the stock water pump I believed to suffer and not able to push all that extra coolant.

[@bobthomas9143]

Foxboss9 thank you that sounds good!

[@stevemino142]

Had a 96 250 Ford extended cab 4x4 with the 460 and let's say if you can find a good 460 truck that's not too trashed jump on it far superior to anything manufactured today in terms of towing capability the torque the 460 is pretty incredible 450 lbs at 3200 rpm and super reliable and easy to service parts aren't that expensive either good video 👍

[@eharris6347]

Should have kept the old truck as a good back up truck , and still have the 2017

[@ProjectFairmont]

Pretty awesome that you have the last of the 460s and with reliable EFI. I have a ‘77 Lincoln Mk V 460/9”/C6/4w disc. Rebuilt the Spreadbore carb, couldn’t get it to run right, put on a sqauarebore Holley 600 with an adapter. Drove it round trip last summer over 2k to Carlisle PA. Averaged just over 16 MPG cruising 75-80 (2.50 gears). Now I am building a 530 CI for this car. That stock 460 is so quiet and refined, and intend to have the 530 every bit as quiet although it will have headers and dual 3” exhaust. My build should be slightly north of 550 crank HP and hopefully surprise unsuspecting luxury German sedan drivers on the highway.

[@Ryanc236]

Do you have a video on the smog pump delete? Tamarack is right in my backyard. Great video!

[@trex2647]

You talk about how much you like these, but then sell it for a new one smh

[@Foxboss9]

Seriously, you're saying that you can only appreciate one thing, ever? Need to open your mind! I used to have a mullet and a big porn stash, high top ponies and Jordache jeans topped off with an Izod shirt with a members only jacket, should I be going back to that look because I used to like it?

[@Logster191]

Awesome video, lots of good points. Especially about buying a new truck. I'd take my OBS 460 truck with mods over a new truck any day. I have an e4od as well, another worthy upgrade for it is this: www.amazon.com/Derale-14208-Transmission-Cooling-and5R110W/dp/B004XONSX0 , along with a bigger trans cooler like you talked about. Anything to help keep the trans temp down on the long hauls in order to get a longer life expectancy for the e4od

[@johnsimone9384]

When you look at the cost of your truck and the mods you have done and what you would like to do, you will come close to the cost of a new truck. I always have this problem when deciding to keep my old car repaired or go newer. There is a point of no return where the investment far exceeds the value of the truck. Just to let you know, I have and love my 2002 Chevy one ton dulley

[@Foxboss9]

John Simone Yep.. Did that with my F150 too. But starting with the purchase price $3800 then add $1100 for tires.. $400 for complete brakes.. $1300 for exhaust..$1700 in fuel pumps, fuel tank, ignition, injectors, cooling system, brake controller, ball joints, shocks, sway bushings, steering box. That puts me at just over $8000.. Even with another $3500 for an engine and $2500 for a Transmission then add on $1700 for MAF conversion and finally $3700 for Gear Vendors unit.. I Would far exceed what the truck could be resold for However, at a grand total of $19,400 I would have a beast of a bullet proof tow vehicle and still have $22,600 saved from buying a new truck.. the real value, that is very hard to numerate, is that I would be able to fix every single thing on the truck without any problems, where these new ones are quite that simple anymore. Now if the new trucks were only selling for about 20 to $25,000, I could definitely see going to a new truck, but I just can't swallow this $39,000 to $75,000 for a new truck. Plus if I had all the mods that I wanted to do to mine, I really don't know if there will be any new truck out there they could do a better job of pulling our RV. Hard telling what I'll do. I almost bought the mass air flow conversion kit today. Well if I make modifications I'll be doing videos of it that's for sure. Thanks for the comment love to hear that you're keeping the old trucks going! :-)

[@michaelbuitenhuis3727]

Should have got a 7.3

[@Foxboss9]

Michael Buitenhuis too much money to buy, maintain and operate... Plus the stink and noise is something I rather not deal with on a daily basis.. Plus it takes a whole lot more $ to modify.. If I was pulling more than 8500lbs on a regular basis and towing more than 10,000 miles a year... maybe... Most people have been told "buy a diesel" if you are towing.. Problem is, most people don't tow enough miles or anything heavy enough to warrant a diesel... You do know that this gas engine stock is rated across the board by Ford to be nearly identical in capabilities in towing and payload?

[@RollingThunder85]

You seem to really know obs Fords I gave a 91 lariat I deleted smog pump do you know what size belt to get or what idler pulley to put in it's place?