Framing Tip and an Introduction to Stud Layout

[@onecoolphilly]

Wow, great explanation!

[@uptokode]

Thank you!

[@ucnhtmenow1]

I'm a lefty too and a lot of people don't realize how many situations actually affect the way we do things. From how we hold/carry things, to the way tools are used. Most tools are made for right handers, even tape measures, that's why I picked up a "lefty righty" that shows the measurements right side up, upside down and on the opposite side of the tape. Most tools are interchangeable these days but not all. This is why I learned to golf right because no one ever had a lefty club for me to use lol

[@garrett3108]

@Evan No, but I did.

[@stevenkoya5236]

Very helpful information. Thank you for sharing.

[@uptokode]

You bet!

[@neilpascal9998]

Very good explanation

[@uptokode]

Thank you!

[@sbollmeyer]

New sub, you answered so many of my questions.

[@uptokode]

+Steve Bollmeyer Lol. Anytime! If you want other videos let me know.

[@kronk358]

Oh yah. Doncha know. Ha! Good video, man.

[@uptokode]

Thanks for watching

[@Sludgepump]

Kody, that was just what I needed! Thanks for the help.

[@uptokode]

+Sludgepump anytime!

[@gustavocamacho9722]

Good video. Easy to understand.

[@uptokode]

+Gustavo Camacho Thank you!

[@uptokode]

+Gustavo Camacho Thank you

[@hugocarv]

All framing layout examples on the internet take an example of a wall in ideal conditions, with the opening structure not conflicting with the regular studs. All regular stud intervals fit perfectly into the wall.

[@uptokode]

Yes you’re right. I guess we try to teach the fundamentals first without losing people with too much detail. It’s unfortunate cause I like to dive into detail when given the opportunity

[@Goosetavula]

Great video.

[@uptokode]

+Gustavo Flores Glad you liked it

[@adamandlorraine]

What method do you use when you have a long wall, say 28 feet, to join the plates together?

[@loungarounda]

Thanks for breaking down the basics, very helpful

[@williambranham6249]

GOOD EXPLANATION, I NEVER KNEW. THANKS

[@smilingdog54]

You made it easy to understand! Thank you!

[@uptokode]

Thank you! I’m glad it was helpful

[@donaldhunt4]

Thank you, enjoyed it and learned something!

[@uptokode]

+Donny Hunt Glad to hear it. Thank you!

[@t.e.g.4405]

It would be nice if any of you wonderful people would show how to complete the layout of a 2x4 stud wall in the corner on both walls directions

[@uptokode]

This may or may not help. We always build an L in the corners. Part of this “L” is the stud at the very end and the L part allows for the perpendicular wall to connect to but also allows for drywall backing on both sides of the inside corner. Hope that makes sense.

[@Realg401]

How much would it cost using drywall and studs going for $5

[@chidrummer1]

Your layout method is all wrong. To properly have your studs measure out to be 16 inches on center you hook your tape measure on one side of the plate either left or right. Continue to the left or right and instead of actually marking the 16 inch mark. You mark 3/4 less so 15 and 1/4 should be your first mark and continue down the same way always going 3/4 of an inch less than 16 inches so then your next mark would be at 31 1/4 next at 47 1/4 and so on. On a standard 8 foot wall it will take you 7 studs. 1 at the beginning which will go flush against the plate and another at the end flush with the plate and then all the other studs in between.

[@lonokahiwa5565]

chidrummer - But if your first mark is 15 1/4, and u continue marking at 3/4" less than 16" (15 1/4"), then wouldn't your following marks be 30 1/2", 45 3/4", 61", 76 1/4, 91 1/2" ect.

[@AlAmantea]

@@lonokahiwa5565 No. You only subtract 3/4" once for the first stud, so instead of 16,32,48,64,80,96, you would layout at 15 1/4", 31 1/4", 47 1/4", 63 1/4", 79 1/4", and 95 1/4" for the closest side of the stud. This places the center of each stud at 16" on center throughout the wall.

[@MichaelUlicki]

You're both saying the same thing...

[@AlAmantea]

@@MichaelUlicki Actually, no. If you notice, Lono's sequence compounds the 3/4" subtraction for every stud location. My sequence subtracts only for the first stud. I edited my reply to further clarify the difference. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@AlAmantea]

@@lonokahiwa5565 an easier way to do this layout is to simply add a 3/4" spacer to the starting end of the layout, and then start marking at standard stud spacing.

[@joelclonch6120]

Just make your first measurement @ 16-3/4" from the left. This will be the right side face of your first stud. Setting all your studs on the left side of your line mark the 16" incriminates +3/4". Done

[@maxv2476]

subscribed dude

[@TubeFinlay]

I have a section of wall that needs boxed out to hide pipe, it's 1200mm wide with 400mm centres and being covered with 1200mm x 900mm backer board, I assume it's ok to put the last stud in so the distance from the centre of the 2nd last stud to the end of the last stud is 400mm?

[@jeffc2388]

What?

[@briha3142]

Shouldn’t your very first measurement from the left side (the beginning 2 studs), be at 15 1/4” from the outside edge of the first upright stud? That way, the plywood sits flush with the left side, and thereafter, your 3rd stud, and other following studs, would then need to be at 16” O.C.!

[@uptokode]

That does sound right. Haven’t watched this video in years so not sure how I worded it.

[@louiswinkler1644]

When you start the layout first mark 15 1/4 and continue

[@uptokode]

Yes. But if you move your tape from the end, then it’s just 16” or 24” thereafter.

[@kmadarchives1549]

If you started at the edge of the stud, the other end (whether 8' or 4') will land on edge as well, not on center as intended.

[@k1ng401]

As I understand it, he’s saying the gap between the edge of his first stud and the centre of his next is 16 minus half a stud. From then on it’s 16 centre to centre. Thus the other end of the drywall falls on centre stud. His first gap is smaller than all the others, making it work.

[@51MontyPython]

@@k1ng401 I understand what you're saying, except I have to correct you -- it is indeed 16" from the end of first stud to the center of the 2nd (not minus half a stud), which yes, effectively makes the spacing between the first two 3/4" shorter than the rest (16 - 3/4" - 15 1/4").

[@51MontyPython]

You are a very shrewd one indeed! Refreshing to see someone with some common sense actually THINKing about these things. I can answer your questio (I was confused about this as well, more so from other videos than this). What never gets explained is that not all of the spacings are actually 16" That is the confusion. The FIRST spacing is in fact, 15 1/4" (half a stud less than 16"), NOT 16", otherwise, what you say would be true. But, notice that the spacing between the first two studs is NOT 16" from CENTER TO CENTER, or from end to corresponding end, BECAUSE of the fact that, although he measured out 16", did not do so from center to center or end to end, but rather, from the END of the first stud to the CENTER of the 2nd. So, if it WERE actually 16" between the first and 2nd, then that measurement would actually have to be 16 3/4" (and extra 3/4")! because he's starting not at the center of the first stud, but the END, while measuring the 16" out _not_ to the corresponding edge of the 2nd stud, but rather to the CENTER. So it is from end (of first) to CENTER (of the 2nd), which is actually 16", NOT from center to center or end to end. Obviously, with the rest, this is not the case -- they are in fact spaced at 16". The REASON the first spacing is shortened by 3/4" is so that they can cover the ENTIRE first stud (as opposed to just half, as with most of the others), and still reach as far out on the other end as they need. Because, as you pointed out, if indeed they were all uniformly 16" spaced, then you _would_ have the problem you mentioned. Let me know if that answers it for you.

[@k1ng401]

@@51MontyPython you’re quite correct. 16 from the edge to the centre of the first stud and then 16 centre to centre from then on. I think I may have been describing it as though measured from the inside edge of the first stud to the centre of the next since I refer to “gap” but I can’t remember what I was thinking.

[@51MontyPython]

Don't most people measure the 2nd stud at 15 1/4" from the first (are you familiar with this way of doing it?)? If it's 16" from center to center, then an 8ft piece of sheetrock would have to start at the CENTER of the first stud, if we were to have enough to meet with the center of the last (7th) stud, but if we are covering up that entire stud, we would actually be 0.75" short (not enough to go over the last stud for that sheet). But, if we SHORTEN that first (or really any) section of stud spacing by 3/4", then we have just enough to cover completely that first stud _and_ still have enough to extend to the center of the last stud on the other end of the sheet. I'm thinking this is the reason most people I've seen teach this actually shorten the first section by 0.75" (though most of these clearly don't understand the real reason they're doing this -- they're just repeating what they've been taught -- in fact, they don't seem to understand that that first section as they've done it is actually _NOT_ 16" wide, but exactly what they measured -- 15 1/4 inches! lol -- note: this measurement in this case is _not_ from end of 1st to center of 2nd, but rather from end of 1st to end of 2nd). It's not rocket science. OHHH, WAIT! After going back and watching this again I now see that you are _indeed_ measuring the first spacing at 15 1/4", not 16. It's just that by measuring from the END of the first stud to the CENTER of the 2nd at 16", _effectively,_ you are measuring 15 1/4" from center of the first to the center of the 2nd stud (or from one end to the corresponding end of the next). So I guess that answers my question. Anyhoo, yours is not only the best explanation, but he ONLY one I've seen that actually makes any sense. Thanks.

[@218Base]

Interesting that this is the ONLY wall framing video I've found that mentions that the spacing from the end stud to the first stud IS NOT 16" on-center but rather 16" from outside edge to center of the first stud. Simple? yes. Obvious? sure, once it's pointed out the first time. Otherwise, a little less so.

[@uptokode]

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[@Matthew-of3xv]

14 1/2 between studs except for the first stud bay, correct? 13 3/4"???

[@motofreak-ey8ky]

U have to subtract 3/4 off in from your lay out mark and then from there go 16 in center on center so the last stud at 96inch is center on the sheet if not your sheet will land on the inside edge of the stud. U can just hook on to ur plate do 16in centers and subtract 3/4 every time instead of resetting you tape though i jusy pulls all thale studs in to catch the sheets

[@Goosetavula]

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[@51MontyPython]

Wait, is it not the case that the spacing between the first and second stud is supposed to be 15.25" as opposed to 16"? That's how everyone else I've seen does it. I believe this is because, with a 96" sheetrock, you have just enough to cover from the CENTER of one stud to the CENTER of the 7th one down (7x16=6, so 6 sections). So, if we were screwing an 8ft piece of sheet rock from the CENTER of the first stud to the CENTER of the 7th (for 6 sections), you would have just enough of a sheet to do that. HOWEVER, if we are covering the eNTIRETY of the first stud, then we would be 0.75" short of what we need to screw to that last stud! UNLESS (since they don't make sheetrock 8 ft. 3/4"), we SHORTENED one of those sections by that amount (0.75"), in which case, we could cover entirely that first stud! Now, if we _weren't_ covering entirely that first stud, then we wouldn't have to shorten the lengths between any of the studs, because, as I've explained, you'd have just enough. Now, if we weren't covering entirely that first stud because we are actually butting up to the piece of sheetrock that was already against it (assuming it was laid first), _then_ we wouldn't actually need that extra 0.75 inch (or have to shorten the distance by that much) to have enough to screw to that last stud, but rather, would need that length (8ft 0.75") MINUS the thickness of that other sheet of sheetrock, which technically with a 1/2" thick sheet would be 7.25" (8ft 25" -- the length you would otherwise need if indeed all spacing was done at 16" -- minus 0.5" -- the thickness of the sheetrock -- which = 7ft 0.75"), which technically would still make you 0.25" short of the center of the last stud. Which is why I'm assuming most simply measure the 2nd stud at 15.25" from the first, which makes sure you have plenty of sheetrock to screw into the last stud (whether you're actually covering up the entire 1st stud or not).

[@Adelicows]

Omg that's literally what he said 😂 The first stud is 16 just like the rest, but for people who can't comprehend that, you're told to measure the first one at 15.25 and put the first stud the other side. But it's still the same distance center to center. It's not as deep as you're making it out to be.

[@peterbergeris6510]

Your not showing how to measure each stud location. First stud location after your first stud measures 16"-3/4= 15 and 1/4 " . There are many videos that describe it this way so your last sheet falls in the middle of the last stud. Another says to use 16 + additional 3/4. I don't think that's right.

[@ghettohey2388]

Its funny how all these videos about wall framing dont ever talk about the corners. No video on youtube about wall framing and wall sheathing talk about the corners though. You have to take into account the width of the 2x4 or 2x6 when starting your first corner for proper spacing for wall sheathing or your framing will be off center when laying it out.

[@uptokode]

Very true! Excellent point

[@Jose-np1zq]

I HAVE A TEACHER WHICH IM QUESTIONING BECAUSE HE SAID THE SPACE BETWEEN STUDS IS 16'' AND NOT 16'' O.C., I THINK HE'S WRONG. IS HE WRONG?

[@stevena3333]

Don’t question the teacher. You’re wrong and you just don’t understand

[@jayjaramillo9719]

Sounds complicated.i always measure 15 and a quarter set ahead

[@wilhelmhuber3270]

Got to disagree. First stud should be 15 1/4 inch from end (then 16 inch). Demo here isn't clear. Sorry.

[@uptokode]

You’re right. Sorry I wasn’t clear.

[@derikl7791]

You're going to screw people over with teaching them wrong, if they pull there tape measure from the edge starting stud and Mark 16, 32, etc it will all be off, never put your studs directly on your marks they will never be straight, you always put your stud behind or in front if your marks. When I started framing I got bitched at so bad I never made the mistake again.

[@ryanthomas5537]

My god this man is attractive 😍

[@JRob-nw5mt]

Gay.

[@ryanthomas5537]

Yeah hopefully he is right?

[@StratumPress]

@@ryanthomas5537 2% of the population? Likely not.

[@BYENZER]

YOUR VOICE CADENCE is way too slow to maintain viewer attention. PROOF? Set playback speed 2X. If speaker's voice is still 100% comprehensible, then speaker needs to DRINK an entire POT OF COFFEE BEFORE recording.

[@uptokode]

I do agree for sure! These are old old videos when I first started filming. Since then I’ve sped up and drank lots of coffee! 😉😉

[@TryThinkingAboutIt]

Knowing something doesn't mean being able to explain it: as painfully seen here.

[@carlycfs]

I disliked this video . . . I think you need a frenz & family focus group to review this video to make it less confusing and more helpful; could be great with more drawing visuals instead of just talking, show more results or examples . . . this is so complicating . . . I moved on to another video based on the philosophy of "Just because you know, doesn't mean we know."

[@uptokode]

I agree! This is one of my very first videos. I think I got better if you care to watch more recent ones. But great comment!

[@jimmobarak4460]

You could not confuse people more than this .Please stop making videos.

[@uptokode]

Too late. Been at it 9 years but thanks!

[@jimmobarak4460]

@@uptokode They say whenever you catch a fish it’s fresh,

[@amirmiami2942]

This guy is completely off ...you are suppose to start at 15 3/8

[@jimmobarak4460]

What a mess!

[@michaelhull1813]

Dude...delete this video and start over. FFS!