Franz Liszt - Dante Symphony (1856)

Franz Liszt (Hungarian: Liszt Ferencz, in modern usage Liszt Ferenc 22 October 1811 - 31 July 1886) was a prolific 19th-century Hungarian composer, virtuoso pianist, conductor, music teacher, arranger, organist, philanthropist, author, nationalist and a Franciscan tertiary during the Romantic era.
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Dante Symphony: Eine Symphonie zu Dante’s Divina Commedia (1855-56 based on sketches from 1839 and 1847-48)
Dedication: Richard Wagner
1. Inferno (0:00)
2. Purgatorio (21:32)
3. Magnificat (42:22)
Damenchor des Rundfunkchors Berlin and Berliner Philharmoniker conducted by Daniel Barenboim
Live recording Elatus
A Symphony to Dante's Divine Comedy, S.109, or simply the "Dante Symphony", is a program symphony. Written in the high romantic style, it is based on Dante Alighieri's journey through Hell and Purgatory, as depicted in The Divine Comedy. It was premiered in Dresden in November 1857, with Liszt himself conducting, and was unofficially dedicated to the composer's friend and future son-in-law Richard Wagner.
Some critics have argued that the Dante Symphony is not so much a symphony in the classical sense as it is two descriptive symphonic poems. Regardless, Dante consists of two movements, both in a loosely structured ternary form with little use of thematic transformation.
Liszt put the final touches to the symphony in the autumn of 1857. The premiere of the work took place at the Hoftheater in Dresden on 7 November 1857. The performance was an unmitigated disaster due to inadequate rehearsal; Liszt, who conducted the performance, was publicly humiliated. Nevertheless, he persevered with the work, conducting another performance (along with his symphonic poem Die Ideale and his second piano concerto) in Prague on 11 March 1858. Princess Carolyne prepared a programme for this concert to help the audience follow the unusual form of the symphony.
Like his symphonic poems Tasso and Les préludes, the Dante Symphony is an innovatory work, featuring numerous orchestral and harmonic advances: wind effects, progressive harmonies that generally avoid the tonic-dominant bias of contemporary music, experiments in atonality, unusual key signatures and time signatures, fluctuating tempi, chamber-music interludes, and the use of unusual musical forms. The Symphony is also one of the first to make use of progressive tonality, beginning and ending in the radically different keys of D minor and B major, respectively, anticipating its use in the symphonies of Gustav Mahler by forty years.

[@Dylonely42]

- How many musicians do you want to inspire ? Liszt : Yes.

[@Kyo-de5dx]

"How many musicians do you want to inspire ? Liszt : Yes." Makes no sense.

[@Dylonely42]

@@Kyo-de5dx It was the point…

[@strykebolten4485]

@@Kyo-de5dx I can't tell if you don't understand the meme or if you're trying to insinuate that Liszt didn't inspire many musicians (which he factually did)

[@Kyo-de5dx]

@@strykebolten4485 I don't even know what a meme is, I don't care a damn what it can be, and I don't want to know, I can live without that ! Of course Liszt inspired quite a few musicians, nobody would deny that.

[@Kyo-de5dx]

@@Dylonely42 It was, indeed (what the deuce does he mean ?.... 😀😃😄

[@Tristan-zt8tw]

I love the innovation of Liszt! He wasn’t afraid to push the bounds of imagination with his works, while also keeping it together with structure and harmony. This is a really interesting symphony.

[@SOBIESKI_freedom]

And he begins boldly with Trombones!!! 😄

[@sneddypie]

at least for his time

[@JP250506]

Josef Suk's Asrael Symphony would be an ideal companion piece to pair up this work with as a set of live concert repertoire performances whereby Lizst's Dante Sym is played during the 1st half of the concert followed by Suk's Asrael after the intermission on Halloween night with the program being repeated the following evening on the eve of All Souls Day. Now that would be a spectacular post-Covid mid-autumnal concert season treat indeed to be undertaken by any renowned orchestra with reputable standing!!!

[@CellaB23]

His name is LISZT... 😉

[@f.p.2010]

@@sneddypie what even does this imply 💀 of course everything is relative

[@drajanacz.1376]

I remember listening to this like 2 years ago while studying for physics test. At that time I just began with listening to classical music, so I didn't enjoy it as much as I do now, but even at that time, I felt everything as it's depicted here. I felt as being in Hell, in Inferno and in Purgatorium. Horrible. But when I came to the last page, my suffers were ended. They were gone. And in that exact moment, the Heaven choral began. It just fitted as if it was a Destiny. I will never forget that feeling. Can't wait getting to hear that angelic choaral again. I love Liszt. He's so horribly underrated...

[@four-en-tee]

As a Yugioh player, i didnt think my journey into learning Burning Abyss would bring me here, but I don't regret it one bit. The Divine Comedy might just be my favorite epic now.

[@tmpwow4282]

Can you lay out your journey? Sounds super fascinating!

[@kmk8284]

Liszt isn't just an amazing pianist he's also great at orchestrating....

[@sebastian-benedictflore]

Very debatable, though I think he did a near perfect job in this piece.

[@shosha1878]

Don't forget that his son in law, Richard Wagner, learned orchestration from him...and years later you know who was Wagner and his unique music...

[@merenarin1579]

@@sebastian-benedictflore i think it is not debatable..he surely was a great orchestrator and it is quite evident in the score.

[@sebastian-benedictflore]

@@merenarin1579 It is definitely very debatable. Mephisto Waltz No.1 is pretty terrible overall

[@MusicalMetamorphosis-]

@@sebastian-benedictflore I haven't had time to analyse Liszt's orchestration but nothing I've heard from him in terms of orchestral works or adaptations sounds in any way terrible. Which parts of the Mephisto Waltz 1 is so bad orchestrally speaking?

[@aramkhachaturian8043]

Excellent use of the timpani

[@etshy]

A very beautiful symphony!I’ve never heard it before.The beginning of the first movement is awesome.

[@hufemeve]

This symphony is the very testimony of how Liszt influenced Wagner

[@jacobbump1282]

I was shocked to read that this work was not at all well received on its premier. How sad, but this symphony is extraordinary!!! I have always wanted to hear a musical interpretation of Dante's "Divine Comedy". While reading it, I could not help but think, what great musical drama this would make. Amazing, and thank you for posting the music with it, also. Now, it would be so cool to have some sort of oratorio/vocal work depicting this piece of literature.... How cool would that be!!! :-)

[@four-en-tee]

This story could really use a proper movie adaptation. There's a lot to fit obviously (this would be a 3 hour film, or maybe a multi-part film), but it'd be not only a technical marvel, but would surely inspire a lot more works going forward with it having many new eyes on it.

[@RedstoneManiac13]

The closest thing we have in the modern era would Robert W Smith’s Symphony No. 1.

[@sanjai_s]

20:45 - 21:21 pure Shostakovich, before 100 years, shocking

[@ShaunakDesaiPiano]

Just out of curiosity, how so?

[@bunnybird9342]

@@ShaunakDesaiPianothe style

[@hexwolfi]

20:10 - 21:30 is the epitome of all villainous and evil music, the theme written for none other than Satan himself!

[@jacobtapianieto9655]

Liszt was indeed so much ahead of his time. One of the best portrayals of hell ever translated into orchestral music. Makes me goosebumps every time!

[@ruramikael]

10:28 the fantastic modulation from e minor to g minor!

[@jakehouston2958]

Its as if Liszt saw hell with his own eyes

[@that1guy910]

That just says it all

[@852twd7]

He must've slept one night, then God decided to give him a glimpse of hell in his dreams - as a way of reminding Liszt the punishment he might get if he does not change his hedonistic lifestyle. Liszt must've used that dream to compose this symphony, not only to express what he had seen but also to remind others of the horrors of hell. Btw, this is just my imagination. I understand that this was written/ published around 1856, which is a time when Liszt was middle aged and had already changed his ways.

[@thai-pc4jy]

@@852twd7 Inspired from dante’s divine comedy

[@bozzigmupp510]

@@852twd7 Hedonistic? What you mean? Was his lifestyle bad?

[@TheOneAndOnlyZeno1889]

@@852twd7 Complete insanity.

[@marcalexandrefontenay9801]

Dédicacée à Richard Wagner son futur gendre la Dante Symphonie est envoûtante et nous mène de l’Enfer au Paradis. Magnifiquement rendue par Daniel Barenboim .

[@brent3522]

Finally someone posts a sheet music video of this symphony. Thank you very much

[@Ludwig142]

16:55 18:38 19:40 20:12 25:16 27:26 30:37 31:30 32:18 33:57 40:04 41:43 my fav parts from inferno and purgatorio

[@jasonhe5578]

This is the type of "relaxing" classical music I listen to when I study

[@biora8770]

yup

[@GustavAhlbrand]

yup

[@funguy183]

yup

[@nikolai5012]

yup

[@jacobcheung2661]

Yep.

[@ruramikael]

I've studied this score in detail some 30 years ago, very useful for my own orchestration studies.

[@sebastian-benedictflore]

I'd love to hear about it, in great detail.

[@ruramikael]

@@sebastian-benedictflore Difficult to describe in detail, but I mostly studied the scores of Liszt and Shostakovich when I was my late teens and early 20's. I didn't buy a book on orchestration until I was 32, and by then I had already orchestrated four works. It is about blending instruments and the resulting timbre and avoiding thick/dense orchestration, but such details as low flutes maybe more in the Faust S.) is enchanting.

[@sebastian-benedictflore]

@@ruramikael Thanks. I myself am really fascinated by Liszt and Scriabon and want to learn about their textures, orchestration and structures. However, I'm not even sure how to approach "studying" a score in an effective way.

[@ruramikael]

@@sebastian-benedictflore Depends on your ambition?! And yes, Debussy is also important but I haven't studied Scriabin in detail yet.

[@vr6465]

Le celebrazioni per il settecentesimo anniversario della morte del Sommo Poeta hanno riportato in auge questa maestosa sinfonia, nuova ad ogni ascolto.

[@jarodvmusic]

I listened to this for this first time yesterday and when it ended I was left in awe with how great it was! I went back and listened to the whole thing again right after taking it in for a few minutes. Now I just finished the Faust Symphony. He is underrated, but so are many others. Those who take a deep dive in orchestral music will come across Liszt's symphonic works at some point. I feel like I find a lot of music at the correct time, and if I had found the music earlier I would not have possessed the knowledge and experience to appreciate it as much as I could have.

[@jacobcheung2661]

Liszt is very innovative with the tamtam

[@Dylonely42]

I love it

[@Alonoda]

Does anybody else think sometimes the romantic era was our peak as a specie!

[@cosnzaidm5024]

26:17 26:52 the recurring horn and bassoon line sounds like the 2nd movement of Beethoven's 7th

[@rafexrafexowski4754]

Don't know if this is completely accidental, a subconscious influence or a reference, but the similarity is definitely interesting.

[@Der_Komponist]

@@rafexrafexowski4754 That could also have been deliberate.

[@dion1949]

Thank you. I never would have thought of listening to this work if you hadn't posted it with the score.

[@ericmarguet4892]

Lizst a écrit deux symphonies: la « Faust » exhuberante et une autre plus intimiste qui révèle la foi du compositeur: « La Dante » . D une œuvre à l autre , on passe donc des flammes de l enfer au paradis et ce sont de véritables chefs d œuvre trop peu connus pour lesquels chacun aura sa préférence . La Symphonie de Dante nous met Ici en apesanteur ! .

[@davidedeluca5776]

46.29 Pure beauty. I have always imagined this part as the Dante's vision of God at the end of the Heaven.

[@hugophilippe4044]

Puissant, glaçant, d'une beauté divine et démoniaque. Liszt est sans doutes l'uns des meilleurs compositeurs de tous les temps.

[@marcelamberg7309]

Excellent commentaire

[@hooparc]

À mon avis il l'est. On trouve tout chez Liszt, c'est comme s'il était une synthèse de tout ce qui existait en musique !

[@BlueMeeple]

That inversion of the last chord though!

[@enelabe]

The beginning of the Purgatorio is so breathtakingly beautiful I'm so angry that it never returns

[@Aercoh]

thank -god- Liszt for this one

[@orgue2999]

Thank you !!

[@Mandugudigitalify]

This is some pioneering composition. Tristan Und Isolde must have emanated subconsciously from Dante.

[@oibruv3889]

Or indeed somewhat consciously. Wagner and lizst were friends. Wagners second wife, indeed was his daughter.

[@a.p.e.ayudapersonalizadaal5575]

Wagner finished Tristan in 1850

[@Pyrobeats]

@@a.p.e.ayudapersonalizadaal5575 Wagner finished Tristan in 1859, this was finished before it, plus the sketches are from way earlier

[@f.p.2010]

Eh, Faust Symphony fits more there

[@elguardallavesdejaal]

​@@oibruv3889 I think it would have beem faster to just say that Lizst was Wagner's father in law or an equivalent, I don't know that era legislation.

[@Kyo-de5dx]

" (Hungarian: Liszt Ferencz, in modern usage Liszt Ferenc)" : makes a huge difference, indeed.

[@rorycbruce]

A great performance!

[@ruramikael]

Even better is Lopez-Cobos, followed by Sinopoli.

[@ClassicalMusic-ds9yt]

yes

[@rorycbruce]

@@ClassicalMusic-ds9yt I concur

[@crypticgamer2558]

6:38 sounds like the Star wars music was going to play ngl

[@Lipton_tea21]

Данте 3:30 4:30 7:35 11:05 15:00 16:50 20:40 23:40 32:10

[@Dylonely42]

The third movement sounds like if you finally reached heaven.

[@Arobamod]

What a perfect description, because that is exactly what happened in the story this is based off

[@rafaelloregiandasilva2498]

so wonderfull symphony! nice!

[@rafaelloregiandasilva2498]

@Shostacovid yes yes! I like too!

[@BaconGull]

why this sounds soooo suitable for star wars

[@bunnybird9342]

Because John Williams actually used classical composers as inspirations for his soundtracks

[@ExtrackterYT]

The beginning is me waking up every morning...

[@lucianerovaris3953]

Bravo!!!!

[@RTCMAHL]

That opening to me always sounds like a Cecil B Demile movie about to begin.

[@aramkhachaturian8043]

Such vast darkness

[@a.p.e.ayudapersonalizadaal5575]

A very beautiful piece, I did not know it

[@Dylonely42]

Mesmerizing.

[@fisk0]

oh, finally found what Laibach sampled in my favorite part of their Macbeth soundtrack.

[@fulviopolce9785]

Liszt ha musicato il poema sinfonico 'per definizione'. Non c'è molto di musicalmente nuovo in termini di armonie e innovazioni rispetto a Berlioz, di diversi anni prima.Si può dire che ne è lo sviluppo, così come farà successivamente Mahler. Certamente una composizione notevole e di grande impatto. Complimenti per il bellissimo caricamento. Un saluto.

[@scriabinismydog2439]

Concordo pienamente, prima di Mahler però penso ci fu Wagner =)

[@milk1fan552]

i hope i can add this to a youtube music playlist

[@csr2legend]

Long have we awaited this day Welcome home... My Prince! - Peddler (from Aladdin)

[@returnofleaderznizar9181]

Awholenewworld.exe

[@MrRbjunior83]

Michael Giaccino and John Powel definitely steals from this music every minute:)

[@flippert0]

Supposedly, Bernhard Hermann was inspired by this piece when writing the score 'Psycho' (among other compositions, I guess).

[@mdnk2565]

- inferno - 0:00:00 lento 0:00:38 [a] 0:01:09 accelerando poco a poco 0:01:37 [b] 0:02:09 [c] 0:02:35 [d] 0:02:45 un poco più accerelando 0:03:04 alla breve allegro frenetico quasi doppio movimento 0:03:32 [f] più mosso 0:03:46 [g] presto molto 0:04:12 [i] 0:04:40 [k] 0:05:15 [m] 0:05:45 [o] 0:06:12 [q] 0:07:21 [r] quasi andante ma sempre un poco mosso - recit. 0:08:27 cl.solo - [s] 0:09:54 cl. solo - [t] 0:11:51 [u] 0:13:11 [v] andante amoroso tempo rubato 0:14:17 [w] a tempo 0:15:40 [x] 0:16:12 più ritenuto - arpa solo 0:16:40 [y] tempo primo allegro alla breve

[@albuch520]

When the chorus enters it becomes really epic.

[@sungahjang6427]

1번 00:00 (46초까지 동일변주) 2번 00:45 06:15 06:39 3번 01:20 01:56 02:28(중요) 02:39 05:48 4번 01:30 02:05 02:48 17:27 이후 장면들에서의 변주 main 03:05 변주 03:34 18:00 06:51 바람 휘몰아침

[@jamesgodfrey5887]

This is based off the tale from the peom inferno, by Dante. He uses himself in the story which he goes through like the six circles of hell, and here the music represents it with the first mvt being the first circle(lies or something fact check me), and then to lust(which is the best part of the symphony on my opinion), next to rage and last in the finale the 6th circle, satan himself! Then the last two movements are heaven and purgatory.

[@shuhengazhang]

There are nine circles in Dante's hell, and purgatory comes before paradise

[@rafexrafexowski4754]

Subject A - Circle 1, Limbo (non-christians without a sin) Subject B - Circle 2, Lust Development - Circle 7, Murder and suicide Recapitulation of subject A - Circle 8, Fraud Recapitulation of subject B - Circle 9, Betrayal (including Satan) Coda - emerging out of hell If you are wandering here are all the circles: 1. Limbo 2. Lust 3. Gluttony 4. Greed and spendthrift 5. Wrath 6. Heresy 7. Murder and suicide 8. Fraud, divided into ten types: seduction, flattering, simony (selling important positions in the church), sorcery, corruption in politics, hypocrisy, theft, false advice, sowing of discord, falsification 9. Betrayal, including Satan who betrayed God

[@ruramikael]

Many motifs are based on a descending tone row, as pointed out by Humphrey Searle.

[@johnchessant3012]

7:26 Stravinsky's Firebird?

[@samuelcabellogonzalez7590]

42:23 - Harmonium and woman chorus' first appearance 49:13 - Woman chorus' last appearance 49:14 - Harmonium's last appearance

[@RomanianGuitarRock]

Dan Brown brought me here! :)

[@jeremytarter7557]

Could I request that you could upload Mendelssohn 5th Symphony Please....??

[@rolandmeyer3729]

Just buy it already!

[@olivierdrouin2701]

Un arrangement inspiré du premier mouvement est utilisé dans le film "lisztomania".

[@francislian251]

0:00 3:50

[@mdnk2565]

- purgatorio - 0:21:35 andante con moto quasi allegretto tranquillo assai 0:23:25 0:25:13 più lento 0:26:16 [a] un poco meno mosso 0:27:18 [b] 0:28:53 [c] 0:29:36 a tempo 0:30:33 [d] - lamentoso 0:31:51 [e] 0:32:39 [f] - magnificat - 0:42:15 l’istesso tempo 0:43:32 [p] 0:45:41 [t] un poco più lento 0:46:48 [u] 0:47:30 [v]

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

9:57 rinforzando..... idk if the instrument can play this one

[@jcl9792]

Favorite: 16:55

[@DomFileoreum]

13:40 17:00 30:37 Fugue

[@OctopusContrapunctus]

The dedication to Wagner is the funniest bit. Even though he was liszt's son in law, Wagner descredited liszt work many times and plus had suggestes to stop writing the paradise, because no human can write the divine (ironic when his opera talk of gods and heros)

[@Dylonely42]

Liszt and Wagner were geniuses like no other…

[@insulini]

¿Is this from the public domain? I want to use it for my second metal studio album. Could I??? PLease plase plase

[@fredericchopin6445]

Liszt has died more than 70 years so its public domain

[@FreakieFan]

The music is but this performance is not. You cant just rip the audio

[@sebastian-benedictflore]

@@fredericchopin6445 not that you should know...

[@solarean]

@@sebastian-benedictflore lmao

[@turekihlstedt1549]

11:00 13:25 16:29

[@handledav]

dante

[@insikjo165]

프란체스카 10:30

[@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji]

4:18

[@doveellis]

11:20

[@Dylonely42]

41:53

[@owengette8089]

10:30

[@user-ys5ib2kt6d]

리스트 - [단테 교향곡] [다악장의 표제 교향곡]

[@Alessandro_da_Rimini]

I will make a video on this music.

[@altoclef4249]

WE MAKIN' IT OUT OF HELL WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🥶🥶

[@danij5055]

Only after going straight through the heart of Hell itself 😉

[@horsemeattball]

Is this where Mahler found his inspiration for his Resurrection symphony?

[@Mandugudigitalify]

Wagner and Liszt intrigued each other in an intellectually cosmic way. You hear it in their compositions.

[@f.p.2010]

Liszt was more of an influence to Wagner than Wagner was to Liszt...

[@rafexrafexowski4754]

Ironic because Wagner heavily criticized Liszt and especially this piece.

[@Vexalord]

@@rafexrafexowski4754 That's wrong! Wagner never "heavily criticized" this work of Liszt, he even gave it extraordinary praise: "This time again, while listening to Liszt's Dante-Symphony again, I asked myself what rank should be assigned, in our artistic world, to this creation, as brilliant as it is masterful. Shortly before, I had begun reading the Divine Comedy and I had reflected once again on the difficulties of passing judgment on this work, difficulties of which I spoke above; Liszt's composition then imposed itself on my mind as the creation of a liberating genius having delivered the will so indescribably deep from the hell of his ideas, by the purifying fire of musical ideality, leading it into paradise of a blissful and self-confident feeling. This is the soul of Dante's poem in its purest transfiguration. Michelangelo had not been able to render this liberating service to his great master and poet; It was only after our music had received from Bach and Beethoven the power to also use the brush and pencil of the great Florentine master that the true deliverance of Dante could be accomplished. This work has remained unknown to our time and to its public. It was one of the most astonishing acts in music [...]. It is obvious that these conceptions of Liszt are too important for an audience which allows itself to be performed Faust in the theater, with the music of the superficial Gounod, and in the concert, with that of the empathetic Schumann." Wagner, Das Publikum in Zeit und Raum, 1878

[@drajanacz.1376]

Wagner literally stole Liszt's music. He for example took entire passage of Faust symphony and copied it in some part of Ring circle. Then he once confessed it with great proudness on some party where was Liszt present and Liszt's reaction was: At least somebody will finally finally hear it...

[@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji]

A blend of hell and heaven

[@danij5055]

Yup. Exactly. Hell, Purgatory, then Heaven all depicted in this symphony.

[@returnofleaderznizar9181]

When you fight Aladdin.exe

[@LeBronJames-bv2vj]

takt op

[@reneblom2160]

Such Wagnerian noise! (1st movement)

[@segmentsAndCurves]

@@Vexalord Wait aren't they the same?

[@salmund7595]

I think Star Wars stole the Magnificat theme from Liszt.

[@chamestb6632]

agreed

[@Dylonely42]

@@chamestb6632 he he he ha

[@orangefruit9166]

Did the maker of this video just mean to make ppl feel the hell of trying to read the score

[@bartjebartmans]

Anybody who plays an instrument or can read musical notations can read these scores with ease.

[@orangefruit9166]

@@bartjebartmans lol good luck then dude, guess u also prefer to read list's handwriting

[@christofeles63]

Too bad the video is too blurry to read.

[@bartjebartmans]

It is not blurry. You need the right internet speed to adjust the frames. If not, they will be out of focus.

[@crescenzoverdenavidacrociera]

Settings on the video screen options of KZbin, select the higher Quality resolution. Now you know.

[@benjamMin278]

😂🐎🌋

[@iknowimaysoundgaywhenisayt386]

Why was liszt obsessed with Dante lol .

[@mojebi3804]

probably because of the badass imagery

[@manuelbes]

Because most of 19th century artists were

[@jakehouston3377]

Because the detail of the story/poem is just incredible.

[@wpown7564]

Cant say I blame him

[@danij5055]

I'm not sure you ever read The Divine Comedy or you wouldn't need to ask such a question.

[@philipsanders9192]

The commercial interruption Is absolutely a sign of were we as human being are in this day and age of the ugliness in the loss of respect for the beauty of humanity.There will come A time in the people's history When life will come for payment for our selfishness.

[@bartjebartmans]

You are watching for free. You don't pay a dime for this. You have no grounds for complaints. Those ads keep the videos on KZbin without them this video would have been blocked world wide and I would've gotten a strike. Fine with me those commercials.

[@four-en-tee]

@@bartjebartmans how is this piece not in the public domain or something by now?

[@ahmedyassinezerhouni5543]

@@four-en-tee The piece is in the public domain, but not the recording. The conductor and every musician have to be paid when someone listens to their interpretation of the piece

[@fazliddinerkaboyev6568]

Mahler seems to have stolen something from Liszt.

[@kenstofft3230]

This is supposed to be Dante in hell. Doesn't sound like anything like living in hell.

[@chamestb6632]

From hell to eternal heaven

[@Dylonely42]

@@chamestb6632 heheheha

[@user-fu7zf4ck9z]

Moron

[@bunnybird9342]

Only the first part is hell

[@danij5055]

This is meant to depict Hell, Purgatory, then Heaven. Following the journey detailed in The Divine Comedy. Would you say that the Inferno/Hell part (the first 21 minutes) does a good job of depicting Hell?

[@tiborvisi7438]

Liszt was robust on the piano but when it came to orchestral works he was nowhere near Gustav Mahler. Of course, Mahler wasn't nowhere near as good as Liszt on the piano. See, every composer had their own strengths and weaknesses. There's no such thing as 'the best composer'.

[@scriabinismydog2439]

That should be obvious... unfortunately not many people seem to understand this basic concept

[@treesny]

And in any case, what is the point of comparing two composers who were born almost half a century apart? (Liszt in 1811, Mahler in 1860.) Liszt remains one of the most misunderstood and undervalued composers ever, and yes, that includes BOTH his piano music AND orchestral music. In the case of the latter, people (including conductors) make the fundamental mistake of "hearing" it through the aural lens of later composers. I never really understood what Liszt was aiming for in his orchestral music until I listened to performances on instruments of his time... then the truly extraordinary nature of his experiments in the orchestral poems, or masterpieces like the 2 Episodes from Lenau's Faust or the Evocation of the Sistine Chapel became apparent. Another field where people make unhelpful comparisons is in his wonderful songs: he wasn't a German composer, so using Schubert and Schumann as the main reference points for his settings of German-language texts is unhelpful. We have yet to come to terms with this extraordinary, restless genius! :)

[@vfsozos9117]

If you get to know this particular work well in the future then you will begin to recognise just how many elements did Mahler use from this particular work to his first 2 symphonies.Especially his second one.Liszt is extremely underrated.Wagner,Mahler or Richard Strauss wouldnt be the same as we know them today if it werent for Liszt.i was listening to his faust symphony the other day and it never fails to amaze me how much that symphony impacted Wagner's composing style.

[@segmentsAndCurves]

Nice thesis, shit comparision.

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