DreamStation 2 Auto CPAP Advanced Review: First Impressions

[@MrKago1]

Been using it for some months now. I have to say, I am impressed how efficient the humidifier is. All my other machines would run out of water close to the end of the night. This one, for what ever reason, doesn't. the only gripe I have is if you accidently touch those vents on the side, it shuts off instantly and is a pain in the ass to get started. no matter how briefly or lightly they were touched. also the display is pretty dang bright at night. but I put my cell phone on top of it so it works out.

[@miriamm3780]

Phillips just replaced my DreamStation with the DreamStation 2. I used it last night for the first time and don’t have any complaints. The only small issue I had is that the lightweight hose seemed to get tangled around me a bit. I do hope I don’t pull the machine down! Lol. Overall, I really like this . There are a few small things to get used to in how it comes apart, viewing screen, etc. I’m very happy with the replacement and hope it lasts a long time. 🌸🌸

[@pabeader1941]

I just got a Dreamstation 2. My first new CPAP in 15 years. Wow have things changed! There's even an app where I can see some stuff about my evenings sleep. I found out about the special menu from another video but am glad you have it in one of yours, too. With it I was able to get my pressures the way I need them to be. 14 is my base and 20 is the top. Most nights my 90% is 14.5 or 15. But every once in a while it jumps up to 17 or 18. I must say I love this machine. It's so darn quiet that my wife thought it wasn't working. I experimented with both CPAP and auto mode and for me auto is a better choice. I've been a CPAP user for 25 years and having the flex setting on 3 has really made a difference in my comfort. I can feel the difference when the pressure releases during an exhale. After using a regular CPAP for so long I've developed a more 'active' exhale so the flex really helps with that. I had no idea that something like Oscar existed but now that I do, I hope it becomes compatible with the DS 2. If I have a complaint it would be that the unit is too light. You can't one hand release the water tank without it sliding.

[@carllegg1077]

I have one and does fine. Highly recommend.

[@cebruthius]

I posted this about a month ago on another review: 0) NO OSCAR SUPPORT ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnScgKufeJJgmas ) 1) It's a fingerprint magnet, glossy plastic will be scuffed and scratched (making it look dilapidated quickly) 2) Can't use it without the bulky reservoir, not travel-friendly 3) Can't open the reservoir without removing it 4) Can't re-orient the air port 5) Can't take the SD card out without removing the reservoir 6) More complicated reservoir which is harder to clean 7) Humidifier latch is based on flexing plastic, will crack and snap off at some point 8) Modem cannot be removed / disabled 9) Filter caddy has even more unrecyclable plastic than the original Dreamstation Summary: cost optimized design intended for growth markets (developing economies a.k.a. the third world), not the US or Europe in particular

[@gosman949]

your last KZbin video was 9 months ago with 67 followers!

[@cebruthius]

@@gosman949 And you have 11 subscribers. Do I look like I care? If I could disable people subscribing to me I would do it.

[@gosman949]

@@cebruthius I don't try and get subscribers. I have no videos and still get 11 subscribers. Incredible!

[@gaymerbear84]

The humidifier chamber finagaling is a dealbreaker for me. I love easy it is to fill up my DreamStation 1 each night, just lift the lid, take out the compartment (or even leave it in) and just pour. EZ and done in 5 seconds. But this would drive me crazy! Too many steps. I would consider this as a solid travel machine though. In fact I may get it for that purpose since the GO doesn’t have a humidifier.

[@cebruthius]

Yep the DS1 humidifier lifting mechanism is a joy to see in action.

[@31tangovictor]

The Dreamstation Go does have a humidifier but you have to buy it separately.

[@Amanda-pi9lo]

People use CPAP without humidifiers!? I would die. It's so awful.

[@jeffreylylemason]

I've never bothered with the humidifier. Hard to think it could really help very much

[@PerezRivera65]

I don't use humidifiers

[@JayDabhiTV]

I never use the humidifier either

[@FahimSalehi786]

Do you not get too dry without humidity? I would think it would make your nose throat and mouth super dry without humidifier

[@karenburton3514]

I have had my DS2 for 1 week. It was a swap out from the Phillip's recall. I had a few sleepless nights, with trying to figure out the ramp up that worked for me. It seemed like the pressure was stronger than my old machine. I know it's supposed to be calibrated the same as my old DS. I also needed to play around with the humidity setting. But I think I finally have it on a setting that works for me. One thing I wanted to mention was something that the customer service person at Phillips told me the day after I used it for the first night. She said Phillips is recommending not to use the So Clean machine to clean it. From what I learned from the distributor who sends me my supplies, any CPAP cleaner that uses ozone to clean your CPAP will break down the sound proof foam in the machine. I was also told, months ago, that the DS2 won't have the foam in it. I asked her why I shouldn't use the So Clean, and she didn't really have an answer. I'm curious if you've heard this from anyone else. Thanks for the info on OSCAR. I will check that out. I usually just compare the data on the Dream Machine app and what my Fitbit.

[@125southernnh2]

My first night with my newly-swapped DreamStation 2 for my former CancerStation 1 seemed pretty normal. It took a while to learn my breathing patterns and then it was sleep as usual. I like the display being on the top versus the front since I keep it pretty low compared to the bed. Easy to adjust. I like the brighter fill lines on the tank as well.

[@stevejohnson7132]

It wouldn't surprise me if most users don't care that much about aesthetic sleekness, and anyway there's this long white coil hose sticking out? People want practicality above all. The manufacturers are kind of stuck because there's just not much to improve upon where it really counts.

[@cammy7266]

I think maybe if a person has gone from using the Dreamstation consistently and for a time (as I have), to the D2, the latter leaves too much to be desired, too many little things. After using it's predecessor it actually looks like the company has gone backward in design conveniences making the changes more of a big deal and annoyance than might be for those coming from something else. The water chamber for one, with the filter and SD card located behind it (and a small beside table), not to mention the concern over those tabs snapping. Not a problem with the Dreamstation, so much easier and convenient. The swivel may be no biggy for some, but since the port is located on the top of the Dreamstation, it does make a difference, it does move with the sleeper. I could go on. The one thing I think I might like is the screen on the top because of the height of my bed, but that is it. The design of that machine, for me, was perfect and Philips screwed it up. I guess though, I wouldn't be considered the "casual user" since I searched for all info and every detail I could find before deciding what my replacement would be. Still tired, hoping for a replacement soon and could use help with Oscar so you may be hearing from me again once I'm back on track. :)

[@kuriakosemathew666]

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[@tfwang5649]

You will get used to. It is a quiet and good looking APAP.

[@scottparis6355]

Just (Feb 2023) got one of these as replacement for the evil Dreamstation 1. I've set it up but haven't used it yet. Overall I agree with your assessment. I definitely noticed the tiny plastic pins the locate the humidifier, I think I can guarantee that they will break sooner or later. And when they break you'll have to replace the whole humidifier unit. Probably a good idea to have a spare humidifier unit on hand, bc it could take 6 weeks to get a replacement. Looks like a dumb industrial design to me. I guess the good news is that they could fix the problem with a tiny redesign of the tank unit only, not the whole machine.

[@billyoung7758]

Just got my replacement yesterday, have not used it yet, wanted to watch some videos before setting it up and using it, Thanks for this one. My first out of the box impression is the humidifier is going to be a big pain in the butt. I use my cpap an average of 8 hours a night with the humidifier on the highest setting, 5, to somewhat avoid cottonmouth (I use full face). As such I always need to top it off in the middle of the night when I get up to go to the bathroom or it will run dry. That's not good, the smell of warming plastic stinks, pun intended. with my original dreamstation the refill is easy and can be done with one hand while half asleep. My other complaint is the location of the info screen, I could always read the original while still laying in bed. When I wake from time to time I like to see what pressure I am getting, a simple press of the big knob gave me that info, could also adjust settings while laying in bed as needed so I didn't wake fully because of physically getting out of bed. As a few others have said, I see this unit as a big step backwards, while it may "look" nicer to some, I personally care more about being user friendly than how it looks, and without even using it yet, it appears it isn't. On another note, I'm hoping I can simply pop the SD card out of the original and use it in the new one, no real info on that here. Thanks again for the video, now off to watch some others.

[@Amethyst_fairy81]

I think they made this as cheap as possible knowing about the recall. I think this machine is not worth the amount they charge

[@mikeharman9114]

Just what we needed...a sleeping device that looks really cool in the dark and weighs less when sitting on a table top.

[@brucefletcher3990]

Just got mine, nice review you did, I'm loving it so

[@jerrywormeyhicks7427]

I hate change, i like seeing my pressure & hrs used when I wake laying in bed before I get up, i would hate lcd on top. If its primarily cosmetic changes then why. I have never asked anyone to check out my cool looking Cpap. It aint a car or motorcycle. Thanks for the review, i hope i never have to change models.

[@Freecpapadvice]

You hate change?!? Your poor underwear.......🤣 Just messing with you. I do like the way it looks though. I want something to blend in, or look like an alarm clock. I REALLY like the SleepStyle (F and P). That machine gets no love at all.

[@bobaldo2339]

I like the readout to be on top where I can see it. My CPAP sits on a low bedside table to avoid water getting into the tubing. That is why I am still using a System One instead of my Dream Station One - which I keep as a spare. I'm sure the DS2 is just fine, but I do not like touch screens in any way shape or fashion.

[@dohspc]

It works fine, no better or worse than the first Dreamstation. Takes up less space and doesn’t look like a medical device on the night stand. The humidifier chamber is prob the part that’s most annoying due to the lid feeling cheap with those clips. Right now the data is not importable into Oscar but they are working on it.

[@mlanning19592003]

Philips Respironics Machines Not Supported by OSCAR Dreamstation 2 (New model introduced April 2021. The data is significantly different, so the developers need more samples in order to add support.)

[@troutnut01]

It is now. He hacked it.

[@tom2point0]

I imagine they went with those eyelets so that when they do break, you’re tempted to buy a new machine.

[@garyplaystheguitar]

The revelation about the power cord orientation being reversible alone was worth it!

[@shawnschultz7284]

Needing to disassemble the unit to add water, Vs. flipping a lid, is a huge step backwards.

[@MarkF48]

I've had a DS1 for a year and a half. I'm still undecided whether I'll stop using it as I haven't used an ozone type 'cleaner' and I feel the foam may not be as compromised as several forums may suggest (mass hysteria). I am however looking forward as to what my next CPAP might be if I should give the DS1 an early retirement due to the foam. Having watched this video I can say with a fair amount of confidence it likely will not be a DS2. My current setup has the hose to the rear and looped to an overhead hook at the head of the bed. The overhead hook allows the most freedom to change sleep positions without interference from the hose being in the way. To use the DS2 in a similar manner I would need to face the front of the CPAP where the hose exits towards the back of the nightstand. If the hose were to exit in the front of the nightstand and rise to the hook, it would be prone getting caught by someone walking by or making the bed. A 90 degree swivel on the front would have been a better connection strategy to avoid the frontal protrusion. My nightstand isn't very large and has a clock radio, phone, and lamp on it, so space is at a premium and the orientation of the CPAP is limited. With the front of the DS2 and hose facing to the rear of the nightstand, reading the display becomes somewhat a challenge. However the water tank being towards the front of the nightstand in this backwards orientation makes for easier daily fill ups which would have been a pain to remove if it was towards the rear of the nightstand. I would much prefer Philips change out the blower housing on my DS1 with one fitted with a 'safe' foam, rather than downgrade to a DS2 which appears to be of a poorly thought out design. I've only been an occasional user of OSCAR, but I have a gut feeling the move to make the SD card data less accessible in the DS2 may have been a push by healthcare professionals that didn't like the idea of end users tweaking the settings based on suggestions from someone on a forum with questionable credentials.

[@cdconover2002]

I removed the foam from my DS1. It had no appreciable effect on the noise. I never used ozone on mine. Had it for 5 years. No degradation. However the main concern is VOC (Volatile Organic Compound) off gasing. These are carcinogenic and an irritant. Reports state that voc off gasing occurs during the life of the machine from day 1. I just want my machines to have no foam in the air chamber or flow path.

[@Rob-o87]

Just got my recall replacement DS2. Seems pretty.nice so far except I had to be naughty and go into the provider settings to turn on the comfort control accesses to play w/ flex and such....the screen is a bit laggy whichnis annoying but once it's set I wk t really mess with it much... Whe min went to my former provider to get it I was bummed when she said no auto therapy start...but uh...it does...🤔

[@gabeosx]

Smaller & lighter is a big plus for me. I travel a lot for work. I do not want to buy 2 machines. Getting rid of the dial & swivel mechanism means less stuff that can break. Whenever I traveled with the DS1, I was worried that the swivel mechanism would break off, because it sticks out from the rest of the machine.

[@westentrance]

I don’t use the humidifier but on the new machine, it must remain attached for the device to operate. On my old one, just detach it and plug your hose direct to the machine. So my old machine is roughly the same weight and size as the new one.

[@KevinLanting]

I've been using the DreamStation 2 for just over a week now. My previous machine was just a straight CPAP. Getting used to an APAP has been a challenge. Among the features I like about the DreamStation 2 include: it runs quiet, the clinical menu is easy to get into, it provides some basic sleep quality feedback, and it doesn't take up a lot of real estate on the nightstand. The main areas I wish were a bit better all have to do with the humidification system. First as you described in the video, the reservoir cover is poorly designed. They should have employed a hinged system. Also, to fill the tank, the entire assembly has to be removed. Maybe it's my newness to the DreamStation 2, but I also feel the humidity controls and the heated tube controls should offer more than 5 set points. Overall, I am happy with the machine, and admit there is much more to learn about it. I look forward to hearing whether or not the DreamStation 2 is OSCAR capable, I would love to see the data the machine collects. Thank you for the great videos you provide, they have given me a great education.

[@cebruthius]

If you like these features you are going to love the original Dreamstation. It would be quite the upgrade. It even has Oscar support which the DS2 won't have for the foreseeable future

[@usakatsukini]

I just finished week 1 with my Dreamstation 2. I’m still struggling with waking up at high pressures, and still some dry mouth. The Dreamwear FFM I use with it is nice. It I still don’t know if I’m going to keep it. Cleaning is relatively easy, looking forward to my Oscar compatibility so I can meet with you and really look at my data as I’m currently set at 5-20.

[@resqjason2]

I just got my D2 as a free replacement from phillips. I dont like it. The water fill is stupid and i can hear every single breath loudly. I took the foam out of the D1 and it was absolutely silent still. I do not see this device as an improvement

[@Breault720]

any idea about power consumption versus the Dreamstation 1? Wondering if this is a better (more efficient) machine for running off a battery system when camping..?

[@Freecpapadvice]

I have no idea. That's a good question though.

[@raymondjr.1080]

I really enjoyed your review, you gave me hope on this machine and yeah it's not a big deal of the same complaints that I have

[@Freecpapadvice]

I've definitely soured on this machine since more time and the foam gate scandal was discovered. Soured on the company as a whole.

[@TheKelly1951]

I just got the DS2 as a replacement for the DS1. I love the DS1. I think the DS2 is a horrible design. It is still in the box after 3 weeks. I am going to write PR and ask them for the DS1 as a replacement. The DS2 will stay in the box. I think PR did a bad job in engineering the newer DS2. I think the DS1 is so much easier to refill the humidifier. And I like the idea that I can take the DS1 apart and make it more compact for travel. I hope these reviewers give the DS2 the bad reviews the machine deserves.

[@100dikembe]

Thanks for the video. I'm having a couple of issues. My iPhone can't seem to find the DS2 and synch via bluetooth. Also, the SD card from my previous DS is corrupt! Any solutions to these problems? Thanks!

[@resqjason2]

It looks pretty cheap and not well built and after this recall of the dreamstation i think im done with phillips cpap. Im leaning to the resmed 10 now as a replacement.

[@ApneaBoard]

Jason-- Bonjour may be contacting you soon. The OSCAR Team is working on compatibility with the new DreamStation 2 machines. According to the developers, the DS2 data format is completely different and they seem to be compressing or encrypting the data. So figuring it all out is going to be a challenge - but as you know the OSCAR dev team is amazing, so I have high hopes.

[@Freecpapadvice]

Sounds good. Wondering if there is any headway on the F and P SleepStyle?

[@ApneaBoard]

@@Freecpapadvice Perhaps when you talk to Bonjour he can tell you where that's at. GuyScharf had been working on it I know, so he might let you know of the progress on the SleepStyles.

[@PreppyKacee]

On the dream station 1 you had the humidified air push out the top of the humidified chamber. On the dreamstation 2. Now it is pushed back thru the machine and out the front tube? Isn’t that a area where you have moist humid air and possible bacteria growth? So how would you clean that? Would mask bright work on that? Cause whatever you spray you can not cleanse off with water? Do you have any suggestions on that?

[@stevenmoshos700]

Hard to set to a static setting. ( Back to a CPAP.) Finally, got it to set to 11.5 on one of my machines, but I still can't get my second to set. It resets to APAP. On result screen.

[@lindae7013]

Have you tried out this new machine the Somnera?

[@Freecpapadvice]

No, but I reached out to them a few months ago. Didn't hear anything back, but I do plan on commenting on it.

[@DeanJOliver]

I'm really sensitive to light. I prefer a dark room. My Dreamstation is like a mini Las Vegas Strip. I had to block the display so it doesn't light up my room. How is the Dream Station 2 for dark mode ?

[@MrDanamch]

My DS2 is very dark. The lcd screen turns off when it hasn't been touched for a few seconds and the power button goes almost dark after the machine has been running for a minute or two. No problems with excessive light.

[@allenbuyck7957]

I received mine from Phillips due to the recall of the Dreamstation. Only feature I miss (unless I just can't find it) is to preheat the water before I start therapy. I have humidification on, but on the original dreamstation, I could set it to heat up for 30 minutes before use. Anyone know if this machine does that?

[@westentrance]

The new machine is a sub-par product for several reasons. I’m keeping it in its box. I will continue to use my retro-fitted Dreamstation 1.

[@richmullinsearlymusic]

HATE the humidifier. The one I had was so easy to remove/fill/replace. This one's a pain and already one of the hooks isn't working. Can I keep my old one? Was the issue truly a significant one or was it more like something that affected one in a million? If so... can I return the new one?

[@bassboy8910]

what happened to the foam health issues with these c pap machines?

[@brandonschannel5537]

I like the aesthetic of the new machine. I don't think I would like the touch screen or the angle of the screen. I have adjustable pressure set and when I wake up in the middle of the night I like hitting the button and seeing the current pressure setting. Other than aesthetics it seems like a slight downgrade from the previous model

[@Freecpapadvice]

Thanks for sharing Brandon.

[@jubelet]

I was late discovering your channel, but it seems to be really helpful. I have this machine, and the only complaint I have is what you said about the fragile hooks on the water tank lid. I travel a lot, and if I drop that thing on some hotel floor in a strange city, I could be in a real fix.

[@peternero6689]

I see the filter is different. Anything else? Also, can you use it without the humidifier?

[@kneegrease]

Since these machines cost a billion dollars, I want it to be as perfect as possible. I would rather buy the super discounted DreamStation 1, which seems better than the DS2, than to settle for the annoying issues with the new one. Is ResMed going to release a new one soon?

[@Freecpapadvice]

I agree. I actually didn't mention the lack of automated humidification like the current AirSense 10 has. The original DreamStation I believe is no longer for sale (by PR) because of.......(future video)......reasons......

[@cebruthius]

@@Freecpapadvice That's pretty insane. It's like it was designed by a totally new team starting all over again.

[@katiemcteague]

I am in the process of replacing a Dreamstation 1 that got fried by a power surge after an outage. My supplier is trying to lead me towards the ResMed Airsense 10, but I really liked my old unit and the 2nd Dreamstation seems to be in line with what I’m looking for in terms of portability as I travel fairly frequently. My question is that I’ve heard that the humidifier unit doesn’t hold enough water to get through an eight-hour sleep. Is this true?

[@jimroth7927]

Having used both DS1 and Airsense 10, I would strongly recommend the Airsense.

[@katiemcteague]

@@jimroth7927 I did end up getting the Airsense 10 and I love it! It is the quietest machine so far.

[@MrDanamch]

I have the DS2 which was a replacement for the DS1 recall. I have had no problems with the humidifier running out of water during the night. I set the humidity on 3 and typically use it for 7-9 hours a night.

[@thomasciuba300]

Seems to me adding humidity into the air before is passes through the fan will promote funk growth inside the machine where in can't be easily cleaned especially without the use of Ozone. Your thoughts?

[@cdconover2002]

I have one sent to me post Recall. The turbine blows into the humidity chamber not the other way around. I am holding off using it for now since I removed my foam from the DS1.

[@mchaywood83]

Would you consider this safe to use?

[@davidgladden8016]

It is lighter and smaller for when you travel with it. Every little reduction of weight and size helps a lot.

[@herbostenkamp8982]

I have the dream station 2. I like it except the c-flex reduces the pressure too much. I tend to get apnea it I’m laying flat, just on the exhale. My pressure is 17 and c-flex is 3.

[@rogeryoung1260]

I am looking for a portable CPAP that is portable and possibly batter operated. Do you have any recommendations for online ordering with sites that have them in stoc. I understand that most will be made in China and with the eception of Alibaba I am ok with that>

[@KevinLanting]

My DreamStation 2 didn't come with an SD card. Will any standard SD be compatible? Does the SD card need special formatting? Thank you.

[@Freecpapadvice]

Yes, but keep it under 8 GB. No, it will format it for you. Currently not OSCAR compatible.....😢

[@marieflowers5164]

I've only had my DS2 for a month. I've had 2 water chambers crack and leak all over my night stand. It's ruined the finish of my night stand. But more importantly I have to use it without water while I'm waiting on a new chamber.

[@mrbritebrown4961]

Is there a hack to make the battery work with the dreamstation GO humidifier???

[@kaypea4874]

Sop can you tell me if any of the cpap sellers you know will work with medicare? Thanks

[@crooker2]

I just got this thing as a replacement to my DS1 due to a recall. First... It's quiet. That's the biggest thing I notice. The main downside so far... Is just the lit button. Why can't I disable the light? The button is illuminated when the system is not in use. My wife often goes to bed before me and this light is VERY bright. There is no need to have this lit all the time. Not sure if this is disable-able or not. Everything seems to be ok otherwise though.

[@johnalderman9899]

Not sure the pressure is the same as dream 1. I feel like I am getting less air pressure !!!!!!!

[@traveler320ak7]

Same

[@mariotorchio4075]

Did Philips fix the foam in this one?

[@JohnPaul-zm1ji]

Is the Dream station 2 compatible with Oscar?

[@annetteelizabethrose2112]

I don’t like having to remove the water chamber in order to add more water.

[@julienkinders1341]

Hi Jason, I have a dreamstation 1 currently (well…I did pre-recall). I was using it in c-check mode. I am just wondering if the dreamstation 2 still has the c-check mode? Or if it is just CPAP or APAP? Same question… just wondering also if c-check mode is available on the dreamstation go? Thanks for your help! Kate

[@mikeb1303]

Hi Lefty, this isnt necessarily related to this video but, I'm having some crazy issues with my resmed device where the frame of my amara view mask gets tons of condensation in it between the mask and don't know where to go to get help

[@john99776]

I think it's instructive to consider these machines as compared to smartphones. A smartphone's engineering and value is so much higher, yet the prices are in the same range as a CPAP machine. Advanced microelectronics versus a big clunky old tech circuitboard and a little air pump and water heater.. Once someone designs and builds the board for them, the profit margins are enormous. We are massively ripped off for these medical devices, and we're stuck paying for it because of the built in inefficiency and corruption of the medical industry.

[@denkn]

Will a SoClean hook up to it okay??? How about heated hose???

[@Freecpapadvice]

SoClean?!?!? Are you trolling me!?!?!?

[@denkn]

@@Freecpapadvice Oh gosh, no. Sorry. What about the heated hose?

[@JEDB85]

Where a connect a pulse oximeter like the Ds1?

[@sonialugassy7425]

We are lucky, in France, we can rent the stations and be reimbursed by social security! Nevertheless, this video (excellent! Thank you!) will probably set me back when I'm going to try the DS 2 in a few days (I've had the DS1 for 2 years). I'm going to ask to also try the RESMED Airsens 10... Or I'll wait for the DS 3! I will tell you...

[@bassboy8910]

how safe is this c pap dream station 2 - after the health horrors from Dream station 1 & cancer and lung problems and NO help from manufacturer. Is it safe?

[@cebruthius]

About the foam stuff I posted in another channel in response to just one of many messages like this one "Guess I wont be using mine anymore then...." : Ugh. This disproportionate alarmism may actually cause more harm/death than the foam ever will.

[@Freecpapadvice]

I almost feel like this was ginned up......timing is suspicious.

[@michelehopper449]

Do you think Philips might fix the problems?

[@stevenfelix7092]

I have the dream station and have been using it for about 3 years. Considering this recall, could you please recommend/suggest an inline bacterial filter that is mentioned by Philips in the recall, for continued use. I tried last night to sleep without my CPAP and could not sleep. I put the CPAP on after a short time when I realized I was not going to sleep. I see Amazon carries the filters, but I have no idea which one to get.

[@Tommy_Boisvert]

You can take a look at cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-bacteria-filter for a filter to block particles. There's a reference in the "DreamStation Recall Update 3" video from CPAPMyWay on KZbin, so I imagine it's better than using the machine without any filter. I cleaned black powder a few times in my DreamStation, without knowing what it was. When I learned about the recall, I purchased a new machine from Fisher & Paykel (SleepStyle). I'm done with Philips, as I can't accept they used toxic components for the isolation foam. There are two carcinogenic ingredients used in that foam. In the video I refer to, the guy mention that Philips could replace all machines by a DreamStation 2, instead of changing the foam inside existing machines. If it's true, I imagine Philips reduced the cost to a minimum for this new machine, as they will give away millions of them, so I would be a bit worried about the overall quality.

[@stevenfelix7092]

@@Tommy_Boisvert I found in line CPAP filters on Amazon. I was hoping they would be the answer until Philips fixes the problem. They install between the machine and the hose(2 different size ends, so it only goes on one way). Within an hour I had to remove it due to pressure restriction. Others in the comments say the same, but some were ok with the filter. I guess it's just a matter of preference. I am purchasing, on my own, a Resmed AirSense 10 because no one can tell how long Philips will take to resolve the issue.

[@mikeharman9114]

Those filters need regular, some suggest daily, changing and do nothing about dangerous outgassing from the foam.

[@maddiebrown4837]

It would look sleeker of the hose was black.

[@cebruthius]

Spraypaint :)

[@brothergrok]

Does this machine have a bi-level setting? I really need a new machine and I don't have insurance... yet I've sen this one selling for less than 1k

[@robertweintraub5418]

When do you think Resmed is going to come out with their response

[@Freecpapadvice]

I have no idea. The AirSense 10 is a very nice unit.

[@jorisbonson386]

They already have - kzbin.info/www/bejne/npeagqODoMRgiq8

[@-zach-crook-]

More up to date: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpivpJx7fs55e8k

[@monicaperez2843]

@@Freecpapadvice Love my ResMed Air sense 10. Even though it is very heavy, the weight stops me from knocking it off my nightstand.

[@qbanb8582]

My only real complaint is the humidifier chamber. The Dreamstation 1 to open the chamber and fill it is super easy. This you have take out the chamber, then remove the lid to fill and empty it. Doesn't seem like much but compared to the Dreamstation 1 is annoying.

[@vader211218]

They just sent me this as my recall replacement. Had the one. Literally just received today and ha e not tried it yet. Worried looking at all the reviews.

[@Freecpapadvice]

It’s crap compared to Airsense 10, 11, or Fisher Paykel SleepStyle.

[@Rom2814SK]

This seems worse in every way than the previous model to me. I don’t want a curved top - I sit my kindle down on mine when I go to sleep. Swivel IS a big deal to me. Humidifier seems annoying. I don’t like the touch screen on the dreamstation go and am guessing it’s just as bad on this one. It seemed like every criticism you mentioned you had to say “not a big deal” - a bunch of “not a big deal issues” and no real advantages… seems like the conclusion should be negative, not positive.

[@Freecpapadvice]

I was responding to the criticisms of other that I had been consistently seeing online. The humidifier lid attachment is a no-no for me. I like that the LCD faces up, my ResMed occasionally lights up my face like a nuke blast. If it was pointed up like the DS2, that wouldn't happen. Hopefully I explained well the reasoning as to why it's not a "big deal." My Resmed has a swivel....but it never swivels. The sleek design is something that I value, so I like it. To each their own. Also, I wouldn't exactly say it was a raving positive review. I think I said that it was okay for an average user. I wouldn't call those searching and researching these kind of things online as an average user. But I do appreciate your comments. Thanks for watching.

[@cebruthius]

@@Freecpapadvice My DSX900 screen faces forward but it has a black theme (like code editor Darcula yes that is correct spelling) so it's perfectly comfortable in the dark. Not sure why the gave the other Dreamstation a white theme.

[@717dash_cam]

Okay, so here are my thoughts on the complaints. DS1 was great in that you can disconnect the humidifier; For a night or two on a weekend trip... I don't NEED the humidifier, and depending on where I'm going, I may have less space to place the cpap where it's easier to not have the humidifier. The DS1s tube location and functionality seems far superior to DS2. The fact that with the humidifier it pivots, allowing for easier placement on either side of the bed (not considering the power cable), and allowing it to butt right up against the bed as sort of and anchor was a great thing. Its footprint doesn't seem all that much smaller, which is a complaint compared for both DS1 and DS2, where the ResMed is the clear winner. This one may be better than DS1 in that it's more easily kept horizontally across the nightstand instead of front to back., but it's still a chonk. I would rather see a matte black instead of glossy. Make it show less dust, and less prone to micro scratches when it is cleaned. As for size and weight again, while it doesn't count against your carry on luggage when you travel... many still try to put it in their carry on bag. Let's face it, many with CPAPS have meds and other things they travel with... and any extra space or other normal things is appreciated. I think they just missed the mark with the redesign. Oh and for those of use who are a bit anal about things... I hope they send out black tubing with the actual models... the white is annoying to stare at with a black machine.

[@kevinbtube]

I'm really disappointed that you can't remove the humidifier. I just took a trip where I left the humidifier behind for my DS1. Without the humidifier it is as small as a travel unit. Also, the complicated set of latches and covers on the humidifier is super annoying since you have to pull that every day. If they give me a DS 2 for the recall, I'll be selling it on and buying a different machine. Hopefully they will come to their design senses for the DS 3.

[@idubbzz7790]

Jason u reviewing the resmed air Sense 11 ?

[@Freecpapadvice]

I will be once I get my grubby little paws on it.

[@idubbzz7790]

@@Freecpapadvice I’m. Gona wait so my dream station sn is in foam gate n my dme won’t Do any thing they claim Philips sending dreamstation 2 to peopel with no email No tracking

[@idubbzz7790]

@@Freecpapadvice did you knowFisher & Paykel makes Refrigerator ?

[@lorenzoishere]

I do was waiting for a big major technology breakthrough. For those of us who really cant find the perfect night rest, i was waiting for something that could enhance my sleep. So its just a smaller and lighter version of the previous one with no new technology. Also waiting for someone who develops a new fullface mask that can solve the problem of mouth leaking ..... its just to complicated.

[@cebruthius]

Any fitting full face mask will stop mouth leaking.

[@sandrakamback7441]

Try opening it and get the 'new' foam out. It crumbles just running your finger over it. That will be in your lungs in no time. No thanks

[@jeffreylylemason]

What car did you get in 2005 with 200K miles?

[@bassboy8910]

let us know is it links up with OSCAR!

[@traveler320ak7]

For some reason when i changed to dream station 2 I have had way more apneas and have been increasing my pressure monthly and still not getting below 8 AHI. Usually 9-12 AHI even with the increased pressure. Is anyone else having this problem?

[@bassboy8910]

why have your feelings changed on this c pap ? I didn’t think you liked it before. It’s sleek like spock’s casket!

[@jackrandom4893]

My humidifier sucks. I have it at 5 on tube and machine and my mouth is dry. Dreamstation 1 didn't have that issue.

[@MorbidGod391]

If I had to guess, they probably didn’t have time/money to develop a new DreamStation GO. So they probably designed it this way on purpose to replace both units. But that means they knew about this cancer problem when they started designing this new unit.

[@sammyfromsydney]

Ok it's a standalone review, but you don't reward a company that has behaved the way Philips has with the foam in prior machines with more business, because you're basically signalling that it's fine to keep doing what they have done. As for the product, is lighter flimsier? WIll it last? I heard the top scratches up more easily. And yeah not being able to see the screen while you're lying down is a disadvantage.

[@przemysawrozycki3342]

Screen on the top, not the front ???

[@davidstrate5296]

I feel like I have to defend this unit a bit. I have this unit and I love it. Really. I love it. Oscar would be great and my fingers are crossed, but I am confused at the level of negativity about such small things. To each their own- no judging from me, but if you are on the fence just know that the unit works and looks great.

[@Freecpapadvice]

I agree. Previously I though the best looking PAP device was the Fisher Paykel SleepStyle. I think this looks better. Would really like to get in and see about the algorithm and if there are any improvements to that.

[@cebruthius]

My DSX900 has a black faceplate and looks quite classy. I used to like the aesthetic of the system one 60 series more but now I've cossed over. Also OSCAR support isn't a small thing!

[@shelbyfife3937]

I had DS1 and liked the unit. The DS 2 is loud and not not easy to use. Sounds like I’m on flight deck of an aircraft carrier. They went from a Land Rover to a Pinto. Big fail, Phillips!

[@jeffc6832]

Is it quieter than the previous gen DreamStation? My DreamStation was very noisy right out of the box, worst one I've ever used (have been on CPAP since 2005 with a Remstar Pro). Hoping to replace it as soon as the new Airsense 11 comes out.

[@lorenzoishere]

In my experience, cpap machines arent that noisy, what is noisy are the masks, i´ve tried alot and some are really noisy but not the machine perse.

[@jeffc6832]

@@lorenzoishere no its the motor. My older Airsense 10 is much quieter with the same mask.

[@maryloubevins4271]

He takes the machine apart in other video & gets to the filter & it's very cheap. So not good. But what else is there without bad filter?

[@semiephemeral9]

what a weird machine. If you turn Flex OFF, sometimes it shows EPAP pressures that are slightly higher than inhalation pressure. Im mean....is OFF not really OFF?

[@judybarrett2113]

The screen is impossible for a blind or low vision person to use. It needs a voice, or at least beeps. The technology is out there and way cheaper than it once was.

[@ericwright3382]

Just received my DS2 after the recall [17 month wait], but must say I am a Resmed S9 person, and always will be. But, while any one change to the DS2 may seem okay, I can handle that... or, if that was my biggest problem..., etc.... There should not be many things that people say went backwards. Clips that break, extra steps to fill chamber, smaller chamber, no swivel. Sure for a new person to this therapy it may seem great. Compared to not treating OSA, these are all minor points. But why not make the machine better, especially after millions of machines are recalled???? Why not make a machine where most say it was improved? Maybe over the years, people will forget about the recall/foam issues, and they can rule the industry.

[@przemysawrozycki3342]

At night you have to get up to see the screen

[@CyrusLi]

the whole foam thing was about making money from the beginning, the new machine is too easy to break and you need to buy it again. the old machine quality is much better.

[@johnracz6095]

Humidifier is a deal breaker. Plenty of other problems too.