Friday The 13th The Game - What Happened?

[@MattMcMuscles]

NOTE: Victor Miller won ONE aspect to the lawsuit. Unfortunately, that means very little. Horror Inc can still make appeals, delays, etc. Then after that, literal YEARS of negotiations will follow about what parts of the franchise each side can use on a PER media basis, and/or splitting the profits. This of course includes new movies, games, etc. The two parties in question do like each other, and will fight tooth and nail for anything they can. So while one part of the lawsuit is over, it doesn't mean anything will be resolved anytime in the future.

[@CiinaBunnii]

It’s kinda crazy people actually said “we don’t think this would sell well, games based on franchises usually suck” type shit when I don’t even like Friday, never watched the horror movies as I hate horror, yet 4 years after this game was being worked on, I play it almost every night--????

[@dragondude9637]

@@CiinaBunnii Same here. I'm also a high level backer. We were going to have Skype talks with the developers with each of us bringing ideas and suggestions to the meetings. Some of my ideas were to have a Kane Hodder skin where he wears a beanie instead of a mask, and give councellers and Jason the ability to jump over fences that you otherwise have to go around, and the ability to stop Jason tipping the boat via a QTE. And then the lawsuit happened......😠

[@CiinaBunnii]

@@dragondude9637 I don’t agree with the idea of having any of the counselors jump, tbh the game was built to have those sorts of obstacles where you have to run otherwise it wouldn’t be as challenging. Also if they ever planned to add a feature like that I suppose they would’ve added it from start as that sounds like a core feature.

[@boosted6294]

I want to know if updates might come back if the lawsuit ends?

[@CiinaBunnii]

@@boosted6294 I heard they’re working on a chainsaw massacre game with the same layout as F13. Also, I don’t believe they’d come back to this game after this long considering the fact that they already announced the chainsaw massacre game on the way. However, they actually did update F13 this year atleast once so who knows they might come back to it (the update was a patch and to fix bugs, no new additions)

[@ChivesPotato]

The only thing that can really kill Jason is corporate bureaucracy

[@jeezycreezy4220]

Who knew a suit and tie were going to be the most effective weapon against Jason?

[@justinbremer2281]

Is this sort of like how Freddy was trapped in the movies in New Nightmare?

[@HoezLuvAila]

Crazy Ralph was right when he said crystal lake was cursed, nobody believed him, and we didn't know he was talking about the entire franchise.

[@mr.mischiefiknowyourpasswo8224]

And Tommy Jarvis pretending to be Jason and then killing him with his own machete.

[@The_Cold_Slither]

666 likes? Don’t give this comment anymore likes😂

[@ArtfulDodger94]

"we don't think players would like a horror multiplayer game" Proves just how OUT OF TOUCH the gaming companies are for the fan bases F13 was by far my fav game for the years it was running

[@alijahaskew4644]

"we don't think players would like a horror multiplayer game" Then how do you explain Dead by Daylight?

[@american_alien_1583]

I am so glad this was made by actual fans and not a corporation. It really would of been a disaster. This game plays so much damn homage & respect to the paramount franchise that it's actually legendary. It's seriously the best thing to come from the F13 series since 1988.

[@brandonwithnell612]

meanwhile call of duty making its zombie modes for years

[@Trainer67]

@@alijahaskew4644 And SCP Secret Lab And Plasmophobia

[@supremeslice8986]

For me it still is

[@Agiranto]

"Players don't want horror multiplayer" Tell me that you have no idea what is popular and good for market without telling me that you have no idea what is popular and good for market.

[@_gorezone_]

True. Just look at Dead By Daylight. It's huge and the player base just keeps growing.

[@arsd.711]

True, and dead by daylight has a monopoly on that front with its growing playerbase.

[@Zombiekilleryamato]

But dead by daylight was released after that statement

[@thunderphoenix440]

Hell, Among Us is pretty close to that and that's humongous.

[@vincentvalen72]

Laughs in RE5 and 6 being the most profitable ones in the Resident Evil series

[@MahDryBread]

Private matches of this game with my community were some of the funnest times I've ever had streaming! It really sucks how things turned out

[@marveldc5146]

Lucky

[@samiamtheman7379]

I remember back when the servers were buggy as hell on Xbox and it took it never seemed like you could get into a public match, so I would go through the game's club to get invited to games. Still wasn't perfect, but it was the best working way to get in and most people had mics, which got less common as public matches became the norm. This is a game that you need a mic to play with. I mean, you can play it without a mic, but it's more fun with a mic.

[@MahDryBread]

@@samiamtheman7379 100% the mic makes it so much fun! I'd just do private matches on stream and let all my viewers in. Yeah they could probably screen cheat if they wanted, but honestly it's just such a goofy game that it didn't matter, we just had a fun time hanging out

[@jaredgriffin2155]

Holy Crap! It's my Boi! Love your content my dude!

[@waknbakn420]

I still play daily on full lobbies

[@Howdoyouchangepf]

It’s a shame these hard working developers had to suffer all because a pitiful copyright dispute for a franchise that’s only alive now because of these developers

[@guy-sl3kr]

Yeah who cares about these dude's OCs when neither of them had a hand in creating the video game itself. They're just two old dudes fighting over money from work they didn't do. Intellectual property laws are so stupid.

[@Vaguer_Weevil]

It's always idiots with too much time and money on their hands who ruin everything for everyone, even for themselves.

[@Delta21OnYT]

@@guy-sl3kr The lawsuit was between Victor Miller, the screenwriter and Sean S. Cunningham, the director, producer and man who originally had the idea of Friday The 13th after making some kids sports films

[@angelito2336]

@@spacepharaoh5918 Oh? May you provide some links for those bold claims of yours then? Because right now you look like an idiot.

[@jeremyphillips3087]

That's a bit of an exaggeration.

[@knixps4564]

This episode was heartbreaking. When passionate devs fight against all odds just to lose in the end.

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@Dkrule1]

Well, with the law suit over, they can still get one last push in, but other things...ya it's heart breaking because the game companies think the mass don't want horror game

[@GenerationWest]

As much as it was a struggle for them to make the game, it did give me some of favorite VA's (Cristina Vee, Cherami Leigh, Zeno Robinson, Ben Diskin, Robbie Daymond and Marisha Ray), just screaming and swearing constantly in fear, at police, or while attacking Jason. A true diamond in the rough.

[@rattlingmender1648]

i know like 3 or 4 of them and i didnt know they were in this game, thats so cool

[@lucinae8512]

I've watched or played plenty of shit titles, but my favourite voice actors always made them a little bearable!

[@tornado_1348]

Thats why i love scp: secret laboratory. Just people screaming and freaking out on the mic.

[@ci7210]

So Makoto and Akechi from Persona 5 were running and sceaming from Jason

[@rattlingmender1648]

@@ci7210 does this mean friday the 13th is part of the megaten canon now? not to mention the nes friday the 13th was actually developed by atlus themselves so. ahh yeah its all coming together now

[@Shaderaygun]

I was one of the Kickstarters of this game and I will never regret supporting it, no matter how things turned out. I had a ton of fun with this game and it really was ideal for fans of the series. Hopefully when the lawsuit ends, we can possibly get a sequel that learned the lessons of the first game.

[@ragekage3175]

Well from what I’ve heard, the lawsuit has been dropped, so here’s to hoping

[@gr1evin]

@@ragekage3175 the devs have sayed that this is bad business and will not happen

[@american_alien_1583]

I was a Kickstarter too. I think I waited like 2 years for a return on it. I'm a huge Friday fan and honestly this game is damn near perfect to paying homage to the series. Since I'm not much of a gamer I opted for the soundtrack instead of Savini Jason. Oh well. Soundtrack never even came lol

[@rockgodsid2334]

Same here I never do kickstarter but I took a chance with this game and I'm glad I did

[@mop-jmk]

@@ragekage3175 I hope they do too, but it might be a while as they are currently making a Texas Chainsaw Massacre game

[@JorVor13]

This story is especially sad because so much that happened was out of the team's control.

[@ItsBurbank]

what makes it even more sad is you can really tell the developers loved and cherished this game like it was their baby. sucks that they had to cut it short but hopefully maybe once the legal dispute is over they can work on friday again. well that’s if they want to work on it again of course

[@Reebonics]

@@ItsBurbank According to Google the lawsuit was won by Miller back in the beginning of October. Hopefully the devs are allowed to continue work now, if they even still want to.

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

@@Reebonics Unfortunately that's only domestic film rights to the original film. Like the video says the moving parts are more complicated than that. The devs aren't able to simply start or stop a project as they please regardless which is why they had to let it all go three years ago. On top of that they had arrangements with Cunningham not Miller. Plus it was a joint project between Illfonic and Gun Media. They aren't nearly out of the woods with any if it and it's all just water under the bridge at this point anyway.

[@mrcritical6751]

It sucks, they probably could’ve kept the game going for at least 3 more years by slowly adding more content from the later sequels

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@elmstreetsurvivor1866]

The thing that makes me the most upset about it all is that for what it was, F13 was probably the most faithful film adaptation game ever made. The small minor details thrown in that only true fans of the entire series would get, trying to nail down the color pallet of the films, adding lore to the series that fans can get behind.. you can tell just how much love went into this game.

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@ValDJesus]

Gotta admit it was a nice move by horror Inc to give them full access to the franchise. It's not common for copyright owners to do that, they typically limit very precisely what can or can't be used, or ask for big amounts of money for each new thing. That was until Miller came like an absent father, all like "Hey its my kid too", after all these years to claim intellectual property.

[@ratbastard2708]

But not enough love to make sure it worked properly. Buggiest piece of shit excuse for a game I've ever had the misfortune to waste time on.

[@francislyons632]

@@ratbastard2708that’s one way to admit you don’t have friends

[@crossbones116]

Some games are just cursed with circumstances far beyond their control.

[@matthewurban7031]

This game was fantastic. My son and I still play it together. Im hoping someday someone will pick it up and add all the shit to it we should have gotten, or it'll get a big budget sequel.

[@trashbash2788]

Keep an eye out for an upcoming mod for the game called "Camp Blood", it's run by a team of modders shooting to complete the roadmap themselves.

[@raidengoodman8754]

There’s big fan mod expansions on pc if you got one. All the unreleased content is there

[@kinggimpy]

@@trashbash2788 didn't that mod get axed?

[@trashbash2788]

@@kinggimpy Sorta. It started off as Re-Slashed but after a spat between modders, a chunk of them left created Camp Blood which recently absorbed some of the Re-Slashed team.

[@leonderkeck4298]

If someone tries, they'll probably get a lawsuit as well. I don't think it's worth it to anyone

[@FazerGS]

I hosted a LAN party a while back where we all played this together. Everyone was hooting, hollering, and having a great time. If anyone has a group of friends willing to play it, it's still great fun today and I recommend it. It's a damn shame what happened to the devs.

[@tadpolegaming4510]

Does multiplayer still work? Or does it have to be LAN?

[@dragonslaya6203]

@@tadpolegaming4510 Still works but is peer to peer rather than dedicated servers. Also, there are a lot more hackers and modders apparently.

[@american_alien_1583]

Honestly, on ps4 I have an easier time finding a match now more than ever. Down fall...it's usually all new players who have no idea what they are doing.

[@IPrayInJesusName]

@@dragonslaya6203 on ps4??

[@dragonslaya6203]

@@IPrayInJesusName on every system from what I know but I haven't checked specifically for ps4.

[@ElGordoBandito]

Absolutely every person I talked to about this game said they had a blast with it, bugs and all. Some people even had more fun WITH the bugs. Watching my friends realize that a bug made it impossible to Jason to stop an escaping car of it was driving in REVERSE was hilarious, and honestly fit the theme of a hokey over-the-top cheesefest like Friday the 13th. It was everything we could have wanted, warts and all.

[@scottmemelord6130]

That's funny. I think very early on they actually didn't account for players driving backwards so for a little bit Jason actually couldn't do anything to stop a car that was in reverse. But the devs quickly caught onto this and made it so the car auto stalls if it hits Jason while moving backwards. Was fun while it lasted though. lol

[@dakotag6274]

Yeah I was about to say bugs and all I loved that game sense it released. The community had so much fun figuring out how the walkies worked and how Jason could hear you

[@dakotag6274]

@@PaleHorseShabuShabu exactly lol jus fun moments with friends with some death animation sprinkled. I remember how surprised I was escaping and then I came back as tommy Jarvis like wth I gotta escape again. And like the achievement for leaving ppl with room in the car was funny to me.

[@philzh7973]

Man, me and my fucking friends online would play this game ALL WEEK EVERY WEEK! We killed Jason multiple times, ran each other, shot each other on purpose and by accident, achievement hunted together, fucked over randos and each other, this game took over our lives for a good long time. Awesome fucking memories. You ever make it to the police and dance on your way out? Good fucking times xD

[@VitaminPoison]

I remember playing a lot during the summer with my friends, the bugs made things fun

[@TerravancerYoh]

Coming back here since the game's license will expire on December 31, 2023. Jason gets killed further than ever before.

[@ratbastard2708]

Hard to kill him more than IllFonic and Gun Media did with this atrocious miscarriage of a game.

[@Trunks1stApprentice]

​@@ratbastard2708That's YOUR opinion.

[@Mr.Bonez05]

R.I.P.

[@kennobu8181]

"NES Jason" You're not fooling me, that's Matt McMuscles skin

[@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180]

It waa everyone's skin, who could ever resist that purple?

[@bloodlustshiva1]

@@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180 That would be me, purple is terrible. Somehow worse than pink.

[@MD_the_MC]

@@bloodlustshiva1 do you have repressed homosexual tendencies?

[@bloodlustshiva1]

@@MD_the_MC What? What does that have to do with not liking certain colors? Pink I get from what is considered the norm for girls, but purple was the color of royalty, so that doesn't make any sense. Also, no. I don't understand how anybody could find men attractive.

[@lewpog965]

@@bloodlustshiva1 idk this sounds closeted as fuck

[@TheDinoEntertainment]

"As of December 31st, 2023, this title will no longer be available for purchase. The game will continue to function through at least December 31, 2024 if it is already in your Library." RIP

[@lazerbeam3]

It’s horrible how the “rights” to the franchise are still being fought over by adults acting like kids. It’s mine no it’s mine, just work together and make the fans happy again

[@exi_dudi2037]

Lawsuit is over now

[@coreylineberry8557]

@@exi_dudi2037 Who won?

[@Duncaster]

Copyright fucking sucks

[@exi_dudi2037]

@@thecunninlynguist ouch. I didn't know that

[@Babymech]

It's so weird... It's like they're professionals trying to make money, and not your mommy trying to get you to stop crying.

[@michaelpeacock4228]

I won't lie, this entry in the series made me the most sad at the end of it. Just knowing the developer put SO MUCH love and care into the product... despite technical difficulties... and getting that official F13 support and rabid fanbase, only to have it smack against a wall of bullshit out of their control was frustrating as all hell. Still, they at least got to make the game on their own terms, with their own fondness showing though. (Imagine EA's "Friday the 13th."! Unlock the speargun kill for only 50 extra dollars!)

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@chaddsteinberg3758]

I don’t understand they sell the game still for PlayStation right? I’m going to buy it, your telling me it won’t load online? I’m a fan of Friday the 13 since the 90’s I just wanna try the game. Why would online be off what’s that have to do with a lawsuit? I can plug a Sega cartridge and it turns on! I’m getting fucking frustrated with all this Indian giving bullshit, if it doesn’t work I’m calling up! I’m putting this fucking disk through someone’s head! I shouldn’t have to do all this! I’m a fuckkn AMERICAN 🇺🇸 WE SAVED THE FUCKKNB WORLD 2 TImes oVER AGAIN! Why do I have to be treated less then everyone else who’s had a good time playing!! How come????

[@OrgaNik_Music]

This is one of the more heartbreaking stories so far. A game with so much potential just... stuck in a limbo.

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@mr_mogg]

I was at the panel for this game at Pax West back in 2017. I got to talk to some of the devs and Tom Savini afterwards. I can wholeheartedly confirm they really cared about the Friday The 13th franchise. They were so excited talking about everything. Such a shame what happened to this game and the series as a whole.

[@ggn3]

Marketing Exec: This won't sell. *1.5 million sales later and Jason paying a visit.* Marketing Exec: Awwwww, damn!

[@rareroe305]

Always fun to see someone screwing up badly. Like those record executives that told The Beatles "No thanks, guitar bands are on the way out."

[@Mysticgamer]

To be honest the marketing and executives would be like see...it only sold 1.5 million nowhere near how much COD, Fortnite, or pubg make.

[@Kittysune12]

i bet the one who said that is ubisoft because the game isn't open world single player that played like Far cry

[@cieranosullivan3636]

@@Mysticgamer Selling 1.5 mil copies on a 800k budget only shows how much of a golden goose the game could have been

[@ironmaster6496]

@@Mysticgamer thats exactly how Nickelodeon works sadly, like "this show is doing great and people really like it.....but its not as popular as SPONGEBOB so yeah clean up your desk" i hate when execs think like that it kills the variation and creativity

[@eileenscat]

Playing the Virtual Cabin by now feels like a rather sad trip. With every audio log you can notice how they were passionate and enthusiastic about the project and whatever they had planned for the future. It’s still a good time to play through the challenges, and maybe a few matches, if you can manage to get into one. I hope we can get to see a lot of the same level of love and attention to detail in the TCSM game.

[@MercuryCDX]

You know how hardcore the developers were as Friday the 13th fans when they allowed you to play as the Jason from Part 5, aka "Roy: The Movie"

[@everyonelovesmajima]

Which I maintain would be a slasher movie people that totally loved if they called it literally anything except Friday the 13th Part 5.

[@suis1822]

@@everyonelovesmajima And have it be a separate thing entirely, its like what they did with Halloween 3: Season of the Witch, would've been a decent slasher if they had not made it a Halloween sequel. But part 5 had to bring in Tommy Jarvis and all that and no wonder fans got mad at the bait and switch at the end.

[@scottmemelord6130]

@@suis1822 They originally planned to turn Tommy into the new Jason and their reasoning for it was stupid and made literally no sense, so it's no surprise they immediately retconned that final scene to be a dream afterwards.

[@auqustfire]

@@lmcgregoruk Season of the Witch was supposed to be the second movie, but they ended up having to split the first one into 2 movies bc it was too long, if I remember correctly. It's really unfortunate, bc SotW was quite good. Not as good as Michael Myers, but still good as far as crazy horror movies go, lol.

[@scottmemelord6130]

@Yeah Toast Shy-Guy Yeah, tbh I'm not a fan of how the game just ends with him being stuck in the nut house forever. Kinda just felt like a cheap way to explain why he didn't appear in any of the future movies. (I also feel like they made Tommy way too crazy too. I thought the entire point was that he wasn't crazy but nobody believed him. Making him ACTUALLY crazy kinda defeats the purpose here imo.) But long before the game existed I believe when asked about it people actually involved with the movies claimed it was retconned into a dream sequence like how earlier movies would end with one. Even if it wasn't the original intention it worked out.

[@SomberLuna]

Props to those who are keeping this game alive.

[@gamingmitmeinemgutencomput9941]

No fucking way i find you in the comments again

[@SomberLuna]

@@gamingmitmeinemgutencomput9941 small world (:

[@perkiewitthelean751]

Still playing the game in 2024 sad to see it go for good at the end of this year, so many amazing memories il forever have because of this game

[@CobaltKitty]

What I loved about F13: The Game more than other asymmetric multiplayers is you could voice chat as Jason, I used to play as the Jason and rather than silently hunting down the counselors, I played a mostly friendly Jason. I had multiple jason characters, but my favourite was Shed Jason, no matter what was being talked about I would try to interject into conversations with “Remember, don’t go in my shed.”. I had about six or seven bear traps set up in and around the Jason shack, and if anyone entered the shed I would scream about my shed, teleport over and kill them, set up new traps and go back to talking to the still alive counselors.

[@DerekIsNotRich]

Love this. I loved hunting people down as Mickey Mouse, threatening my victims with promises of more terrible Star wars movies. xD

[@mbperson7982]

@@DerekIsNotRich lmfaooo

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@IchCharacter]

@@DerekIsNotRich Now that's true horror, have fun doing it once more, hopefully.

[@mistermatt9143]

This is probably my favourite game of the last generation. Still play it today. Hadn't really experienced the F13 series before this was a PS+ game and I fell in love. Still playing to this day, when you get a good day it's a hell of a good time

[@Megatron_95]

It was fun when it had so many glitches. Because I remember this one time when I knocked Jason out of the map after I hit him with a frying pan

[@scottmemelord6130]

I once had it bug out where Jason got stunned and fell to the ground and couldn't get back up again. It was hilarious.

[@Megatron_95]

@@scottmemelord6130 that is funny

[@mandatoryusername42]

It's not a bug...it's a feature! ^_^

[@nathanhall9345]

Everything I've seen is this game having some of the best jank ever.

[@inyrui]

One time we got Jason down and he fell under the map but he could still hit us from below so he just went and killed us all while running under the map lol

[@djhoops7385]

This game is some of the most fun I’ve ever had playing a video game when everyone is talking in chat. Would make a good Halloween game too I think

[@mrcritical6751]

Yeah especially if you have a Jason who’s goofing around with you. I remember once me and another guy were escaping in a car so I started singing “making my way downtown” as a joke only for Jason to appear and start aggressively singing the profanity filled parody version as he smashed the car to pieces

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@tokuwriter2872]

Don’t say that do Dead by Daylight players. They’ll needlessly explain why a Halloween game is pointless because DBD already did and is more popular. God that community is shit.

[@De13373r]

Oh this one hurts. Also, fun fact, I actually gave Matt that Savini Jason. Glad to see he’s still getting use out of it!

[@scottmemelord6130]

@@sonyabladesbooty3890 He probably had a spare code that he gave to him. Let's not forget there was that guy that apparently stole extra codes from the company and sold them on ebay or some shit. I remember hearing about that.

[@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180]

For thos who don't know, the "Savini Jason" skin was an exclusive that you could only buy with real money and for a limited time(IIRC only for backers). Scalpers got ahold of it and were reselling codes for more than double the original price, getting absolutely ludicrous.

[@scottmemelord6130]

@@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180 Wasn't just scalpers there was literally like some temp employee they had that stole spare codes and sold them online. I think they stopped working with whatever company the temp employee was from because of that event. (Also I think his own company fired him as well.)

[@boyinterrupted7204]

@@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180 xbox accidentally released it for free so alot of people got it that way too. That's how I got it 😅

[@metalhandboi6681]

"It wasn't a money thing for us, it was a passion thing" Thats exactly what made Friday the 13ths devs differ from the bastards that work at behaviour

[@Yonel6969]

fr. i always hated bhvr but ever since it took them like 2 months to fix console lag back in may and june it just proved they dont care about the community. just money

[@justwatch7091]

LoL No, as someone who played F13 during launch and got all achievements, illfonic was just as incompetent and stupid as BHVR. At least BHVR tries to fix bugs in few months or atleast a year, even though they create new ones every update. illfonic didn't even give a single damn during the time they worked on the game.

[@metalhandboi6681]

@@justwatch7091 Sure, whatever you think. At least they didn't lie to the community unlile BHVR with NFTS

[@SHITFUCK1999]

@@metalhandboi6681 who cares about the nft really

[@justwatch7091]

@@metalhandboi6681 Except they did. They announced Paronia game mode even before they themselves knew what it was going to be and said "It is gonna be awesome! Coming soon!". That's just one example. They just wanted to bail out as soon as they got their sweet money and lawsuit was the perfect scapegoat for them. I regret that I supported these clowns during 2017-2018 period against BHVR. We shit on BHVR for being incompetent but Gun Media/illfonic was on whole another level of idiocy. That's why BHVR has a monopoly in this field, they are simply better and care more about their game than others do. Even before they got any licenses, they had 2-3 times more players than F13 and that should tell a lot considering how huge hype was due to F13 licensing.

[@Duncaster]

This game was real damn fun. Dead by Daylight doesn't really fill the hole this game left, and anything that tries to fill that niche is killed by DBD's iron-tight grip on the asymmetrical horror genre. It really does suck

[@pixelishious]

I think VHS by Hellbent Games will give DBD a run for their money. But I agree whole-heartedly, this game was amazing.

[@gvirusqueen3559]

Phasmophobia is really fun!

[@Dinker27]

@@pixelishious Thank you for the rec. I'm always starving for games like this. I do play DBD...but I'm with Duncaster.

[@jeremoople]

Exactly. I get so bored with Dead by Daylight, but Friday the 13th was one of my favorite multiplayer experiences ever. The Evil Dead game looks like it'll be a little more similar to F13 than DBD, but it's going to have much more of a focus on combat so it still probably won't fill that hole

[@dredgenwar2375]

Here's to hoping VHS becomes the next big thing. People seem really excited for that and really ready to leave DbD behind for a while after all the bugs, bad balancing, and the NFT shit, so maybe we'll get something that scratches that itch.

[@skullking6017]

It's such a sad story. It always seems like the truly passionate developers always get screwed over. Whenever I saw people being rude to the devs (because of the legal B.S.) I would swiftly educate them on the truth of why development stopped. Unfortunately, I did this a LOT because people are so quick to point fingers. . The thing is, it wasn't even just the game that stopped development. It was all of the F13 merch. The company that makes F13 figures couldn't (and I think still can't) make new figures because of the lawsuit. I hope that one day they can make a sequel to the game once the lawsuit finally ends in 20XX.

[@eddiemudie952]

True suffering is being a Friday The 13th fan in 2021.

[@amiibopimp852]

Rayman fans: My pain IS FAR GREATER THAN YOURS!

[@eddiemudie952]

@@amiibopimp852 You at least got 2 official installments over the past 15 years. They are also great games. The only thing to worry about is Ubisoft holding him hostage which isn't even all that hopeless since they separated the Rabbids into it's own thing. In the meantime all Friday The 13th fans got in the same time frame was an unofficial spinoff game that was shut down by franchise officials before a number of bugs & balances were fixed and we still have no hope for a new installment. Oh and a Mortal Kombat cameo. I guess I'll give you that one because Brawlhalla is a sad game to cameo for. No movies. No TV shows. No animated shorts like Rayman got. No full scale games like Rayman got. No official installment like Rayman got. Friday The 13th has had delay after delay in anyone anywhere making a new installment. Now it's at the point where nobody at all wants to make a new movie and the petty legal battle has essentially killed the franchise. Whoever wins doesn't matter as each side clearly has no intention of doing anything but collecting royalties. All of this happening after a full decade of franchise silence (Something Rayman has never once been subjected to) From where I'm standing, Rayman fans have it great by comparison.

[@obsidianwarrior5580]

At least we got the kill count recounts

[@crazorproductions5493]

Do you want to be part of a fandom that really suffers? become a Bronie. I've been a fan of Friday the 13th since I was 12/13 years old, but believe me when I tell you that the franchise, with its ups and downs, has never been as abused as My Little Pony was. Friday the 13th had its glory days in the 80s and only had three bad movies (although Jason Takes Manhattan, Jason Dies and Jason X aren't that bad compared to Rob Zombie's Halloween II) and unlike Freddy Krueger, his remake was decent, aside from Jason appearing in one of the best fighting games in the world. Personally, as a fan of Friday the 13th, I feel satisfied because the franchise gave everything it could give and its ending was not so terrible. MLP instead had: 1) his best villain comparable to the Joker was turned into a joke 2) his first movie released in theaters in 2013 was a disaster in many ways, starting with it not being about Ponies in the first place 3) bad decisions after bad decisions that changed for the worse everything that made the series interesting 4) his real first movie premiered only seven years after the show aired and unfortunately it did not meet expectations (although I liked it) and its sequel was canceled 5) two terrible last seasons being the penultimate episodes of the ninth and last season an infamous recycling of events from past seasons painted as two new episodes. 6) mediocre games (the Friday the 13th video game is at least epic and entertaining) or good games canceled for no reason and two serious cases of scams towards the community 7) and finally, little or no respect from other fandoms, and even from the producers of the series, towards MLP and the Bronies like what happened with Friday the 13th doesn't look so bad now, does it? sometimes it's not a question of quantity but of quality and although Jason's films were never the eighth wonder of the world, at least we had some fun with them and they didn't piss us off instead of other franchises that the studios have ruined like Star Wars . being Bronie is suffering, now if you really want to be a masochist then I advise you the Sonic fandom, they do have it difficult, so much so that I don't even go near it so as not to get exasperated.

[@kongahb]

It was just a trendie game

[@andrewbarthel8224]

In spite of all its troubles, I find the game VERY playable and a hell of alot of fun. I wish it wasnt plagued by these troubles but I'm still delighted with what we have.

[@stephen2597]

This game was so much fun when it worked, shame it typically didn’t

[@inyrui]

This about sums it up

[@NukaCola514]

It works fine now, still pretty fun too 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@RemixerUltimate]

@@NukaCola514 I mean, it doesn't really work considering the servers are gone...

[@scottmemelord6130]

@@RemixerUltimate Not to mention hackers pretty much every game.

[@Kaldin0203]

@@RemixerUltimate Appearently you didn't listen that Peer to Peer still works...

[@PsionicDiamond]

I remember the first announcement from the team, they stated they had to “temporarily” stop production to sort out a dispute. From what I gathered, this was going to be a very brief halt in DLC’s so at the time I didn’t really take in the severity of the situation.. such a heartbreaking thing. The game could have easily surpassed DBD by far - each game felt new and fresh while DBD is repetitive and it was always the same old. Forever going to miss F13 :(

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@misterrosen3237]

I dont think it would've killed dbd tho

[@rarescevei8268]

​@@misterrosen3237It was about to before the legal trouble

[@misterrosen3237]

@@rarescevei8268 no, if I remember correctly it was a close competition. And a bit before the legal trouble f13 started slowly to lose players but dbd had their playerbase and stayed consistent (dbd wasnt losing or gaining players)

[@paintedpig3021]

I miss this game, I remember overusing the teleport and chaining kills

[@raidengoodman8754]

Snowballing as Jason was greatly satisfying

[@DaDualityofMan]

@@raidengoodman8754 What's that mean?

[@paintedpig3021]

@@DaDualityofMan killing players in succession

[@DaDualityofMan]

@@paintedpig3021 Oh, that was fun, never knew there was a name for that

[@Hapetiitti]

@@DaDualityofMan It's a pretty common term used in gaming and some other forms of competition. You know, like how a snowball rolling downhill keeps growing bigger and getting more momentum? It basically means the more small victories you get during a match, the easier and more inevitable your eventual win becomes. Another term used quite similarly is "win more".

[@1_THE_MAN_1]

As the enforcer for a community made game mode called the BAC two of the most memorable events we had on the series was when we had Kane Hodder congratulate a season winner and when Tom Savini did another after which he gave a tour of his garage where he worked on a lot of FX things for various movies. Both are consummate professionals and legends in their respective crafts. Nice vid. 👍

[@Lex1P1xel]

I was very close to this game, having spoke with the developers and publishers on multiple occasions as a Discord administrator for 3 years. Thank you for doing the story justice, Matt. This video was honestly painful for me to watch. I'll never stop grieving over what could have been. I really appreciate how you framed everything and didn't just shit on the game. Much love to Wes, Randy, Ronnie, y'all did your best. I hope this video helps clear the air with a fan base that was angry and confused. I know it wasn't perfect but I really loved this flawed little game. And I'm pretty sure there's no multiplayer game to this day with so many incredible and varied kill animations. Mo-capped by a living horror cinema legend. Maybe we'll get another shot in another 20 years lol

[@MattMcMuscles]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@Maxler5795]

"While the initial game made by *ATLUS*" i actually jumped back and screamed "WHO?!"

[@chix1337]

Fr, it's insane how they went from licensed NES garbage to Persona 5

[@frisby7143]

A true gem of a game. Such a shame that lawsuit happened as I bet we’d be playing it today

[@picamike]

You know, I went back to the game earlier today to complete the single player challenges for the nostalgia. Was honestly so much fun to play the game again

[@zutter7700]

Was an early backer to the game. Dope to see the vid.

[@dethklokCraft]

Agreed this was one of two project I ever backed on kickstarter! I have the steelbook in storage but im getting it one day.

[@michaelhimmelhaver7286]

Honestly, I felt the pain with this one. I remember reading about the game being made and telling my ex "I NEED this in my life" lol. When the game came out, I bought it probably the second day it was out. Put in countless hours, so many strange times and interesting moments from what I called "The Solo Queue Wasteland". I even pulled my best friend in, and we played the absolute hell out of it. Games like Dead by Daylight or even the most recent Evil Dead just can't match how the game felt. While yeah, Jason was a unstoppable killing machine and I'd say about 75% of the time if he caught wind of you, you were dead..(and more in the hands of a skilled Jason player), there was always that feeling of "If I just hammer out objectives, I can get away." or "If I just hammer out objectives, I can help others get away." There were a ton of choices and you really weren't always bogged down by if 'someone on your team was absolutely horrible but you were good' scenarios. And that made this game even better. It being Friday the 13th was amazing to begin with. But the way they made the game and the choices they put in that you could choose, the paths you could take in getting away from Jason...that's what made this game a all timer to me.

[@shinyagumon7015]

Publisher: "Nobody wants to play a horror multiplayer game!!!" Death By Daylight: Hold my Entity.

[@MarquisdeL3]

Seriously. I don't like horror games and I don't like most multiplayer games, but multiplayer horror really appeals to me

[@bathumb45]

@@spacepharaoh5918 Jesus Christ, people have been saying that since launch lol the game is fine and will continue to do just fine, the playerbase is bigger than it's ever been.

[@Magus12000BC]

@@bathumb45 - Because it has no real competition. The game can get away with being hot garbage.

[@ManaAdvent]

Speaking of which, Evolve needs a Wha Happun.

[@eddykaye8618]

@@Magus12000BC I played it for about 15 minutes before I deleted it. The characters are all floaty.. Why is Michael Myers running (Or floating fast) The game looks so stupid, I can't believe people like it

[@OmegaRomik]

This game will forever be a masterpiece. A dream come true. I rejoiced with my inner spirit that something so beautiful can exist.

[@Bacchus325]

My dad isn't even huge on modern video games and at the time probably hardly even knew what Kickstarter was but he backed the game just for the soundtrack and I don't know if he ever got it.

[@johncena2336]

Was probably in an email attachment

[@muffythevampirelayer_]

I have very fond memories of this game. Summer of 2017 was a freakin' blast with my friends playing this game. I have put so many hours into it. Recently my friend and I played a few rounds. It was still a lot of fun. It's shame what happened to this game due to the lawsuit. Imagine what it would be today if they were allowed to keep going. Maybe my blood pressure wouldn't so high due to playing Dead By Daylight with friends. I really hate playing survivor in that game.

[@Lunar-hz6jz]

The lawsuit is over and they have the rights to update it but they haven't and I dont blame them to be honest the best thing to do would be to make a sequel instead of revamping the current game

[@coffintears5821]

I played this game alot during 2018 through 2019 but since i dont have internet access of any kind i cant play the game anymore. Since you STILL need internet to play on offline mode.

[@GuruRM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6uynqWLq7Gegas ^ the truth

[@jdellabeat6245]

This game was so popular that nearly half of my subscription field were filled with playthroughs.

[@Anonymous0C]

Thank you so much for covering this! This is one of my favourite 'Horror' Multiplayer games. I still play this on PS4 from time to time cx Super fun

[@claytonrios1]

Now I'm hoping someday someone can make a great Nightmare on Elm Street game like this. Maybe they can even have a reference to Freddy vs Jason in there.

[@Havik61]

I think Nightmare on Elm Street would work better as a single player game. That way you can take full advantage of the crazy reality bending stuff Freddy can do. Like Eternal Darkness/Arkham Scarecrow kind of stuff.

[@claytonrios1]

@@Havik61 That would be an excellent survival horror game.

[@yannick1711]

@@Havik61 that would be sick af

[@HardboiledBoi]

When you can get a game going without the occasional network issues, it's still so much fun. I hope someday they'll finish that Jason X that's in the game or a cool idea, adding in Pamela as a playable Jason.

[@scottmemelord6130]

Sadly not happening, they've completely abandoned the game and the ones in charge of it now are phone game devs or something.

[@sablebranwen2539]

Best of luck to these guys with Texas Chainsaw. Game looks awesome, and they're definitely the folks for the job!

[@somerandomguy9891]

This didn't age well...

[@AR1NOVA]

RIP to one of the greatest games to come out in recent years....hope we get another slasher type game

[@ne3856]

Let's hope so

[@uknownhero2764]

Dead by Daylight?

[@AR1NOVA]

@@uknownhero2764 dead by daylight is a good game but doesnt have the same flare friday the 13th had in terms of gameplay, design and all that jazz...theyre 2 different experiences

[@DeltaDemon1]

I remember when this was hinted at. I thought, "well, this'll be crap." I was pleasantly surprised. The dev team should be proud of what they've accomplished even if it was taken away from them a bit prematurely. The end result is still a very good game.

[@Zenlore6499]

That lawsuit is STILL going on? Damn. Poor devs.

[@zephyrderg]

What's going on with videogame licenses at the moment is really anti-consumer. Games getting delisted and taken off digital stores is the dark side of the digital age.

[@QRaven18]

As buggy and broken this game was, I had SO much fun playing it with Friends. 10x more fun then DBD honestly. It was just a chill weekend game to play with a group of friends to act stupid with. Super sad about what happened to it, I wonder what else would have been brought to the game.

[@Jetstorm26]

Love how you used the music from Nightmare on Elm Street NES game

[@tornado_1348]

It annoys me how when something people dont like happens they just yell at the first person they find. Most of the people yelling at the team probably didnt actually look into what was happening and just thought they knew everything.

[@lemontree9518]

ive never even played the game but seeing my favorite youtubers play the game thrust me into the world of multiplayer horror games which i am forever grateful for

[@inyrui]

This game may not be the most well made game, but it has a fun factor that a lot of games don't have. Even with all the junk it's still a great game to play with the boys

[@ForrestFox626]

Pity copyright drama is keeping the game in limbo

[@Ryanmiller70]

This game was a lot of fun when I played it with friends and the fanbase was pretty friendly when I first played as Jason. I know my experience is only my own, but it was a surprisingly great time.

[@Dante-Balisk]

“No one wants a multiplayer horror game” -looks to the popularity dead by deadlight would gain-

[@CVSIMIR]

14:42 is LITERALLY a picture of me in my Jason cosplay from like 2015. This is the 2nd time I've seen that pop up on something recently and I definitely didn't expect to see it here.

[@Brentastrophe]

The motion capture is so awesome to witness. I love seeing that side of game making so much

[@Mark-qj5kp]

Dude, this was a great video. Thanks for making it. Been playing since the Beta, backed on Kickstarter. Was just playing it again this eve with one of my good friends - we've had many a matches on there.

[@ashhawkins3641]

Another great episode from the great one!!! Been waiting all week once again!!!!

[@TheJrod482x]

This is one of my favorite What Happened. Great job Bro.

[@MattMcMuscles]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@Dr.Faustus.]

Kickstarter backer from day one, was along for this whole ride. Gotta say if you want an example of how out of touch these publishers are with thier player base. This one shines. I sure hope this frees the team of all the idiots that think they quit this dream project

[@invincibleFan_]

Like how at 5:15 the curtens close then an ad plays then they open I like that transition

[@Wampwamp12]

As a huge Friday the 13th fan I can’t begin to tell you how hyped I was for this game to come out. I had never been more hyped for a game before pre release I would check gun and Wes Twitter everyday to see if any news had come out about the game.. hell I remember where I was and what I was doing when I read that they were turning summer camp into F13th. The game was corky and broken at times but I loved it. It’s also one of the saddest stories in gaming I feel the game could of lived on for years and only could of kept getting better (like dead by daylight) but some stupid lawsuit ruined that. Hoping we get a proper sequel one day.

[@kanseiyamazaru435]

We had TWO possibly great survivor vs. slasher games to rival Dead by Daylight and yet they ended up doing themselves in!

[@CTJason]

This game definitely has a spot in my heart ❤ ! What great memories I've had over the past 4 years with it . I hope a sequel can be made eventually 🤞

[@frankyboi1819]

This is one of the first games I got on my own PlayStation 4 and pc. My cousins and I played across the country online for hours. It truly did help create some of my favorite memories

[@cicada8981]

I kind of remember some stuff around this game and how it seemed like it would be a huge competitor to Dead By Daylight, the only other asymmetrical horror game still going strong (as far as I know.) All things considered, it definitely could've gone that way if only things had held strong for the guys over there. Alas, things always seem to get complicated with this kind of stuff. Hell, DBD is already losing the Stranger Things IP and maybe more down the line. Come to think of it, DBD might make a good video for Wha Happun, considering the numerous bugs, controversial balance changes (Decisive Strike, Ruin, the constant gen changes, etc.) and the aforementioned losing of Stranger Things.

[@somerandomguy9891]

Recently they had more than 96.000 players on Steam only. It's not going down so easily. However, goddamn DBD does need some good competitors. Maybe VHS can fit that role.

[@arsd.711]

Not to mention with the Hellraiser DLC issues, like voice acting and NFT stuff, they really need to pick up the pace with those fixes....

[@alicequeenofmadness9995]

Let's not forget all of the hackers that seem to be growing in number.

[@pontiffsulyvahn9182]

@@arsd.711 yeeeeeeeeeep

[@do3807]

Man, watching Kane do his thing as Jason is awesome, even just for the mo-cap.

[@jaleink2953]

I never actually played this game but man did I love watching it streamed. It kinda hit this like sweet spot for stream watchers it's really easy to follow, the goals are really clear, the art direction is great and engaging, and the map layouts have an easy at a glance understanding of their geography. Etc. Compared to Dead by Daylight which has none of this, that game is unwatchable in a stream setting even if I love the streamer playing.

[@UmJammerChelle]

I've always disliked how game-like Dead By Daylight is. The killers feel more like players with their own set of task objectives opposite of the survivors rather than a slasher movie style villain who just wants to kill everyone. It's an ok game, but it doesn't really do its source material justice with the actual gameplay like the Friday the 13th game did imo.

[@scottmemelord6130]

The problem is DbD has no gameplay tbh. Atleast F13th gave counselors the option of combat. DbD is like Amnesia but multiplayer, if you're into that sort of thing it's fine but if you're not it's really boring. Since the only option you're given is to run around in circles and hide until the spooky monster goes away, maybe throw an object in their face once in awhile. It doesn't really make for riveting gameplay imo.

[@pizzario4986]

Yeah, I always felt that with the killers you get more quantity than quality, while with Jason you *feel* like Jason.

[@pontiffsulyvahn9182]

@@scottmemelord6130 true, kind of Threw me Off When we've got People such as Leon, Bill, and Ash, Who've fought stuff MUCH worse than half Of the Cast of Killers In Dead By Daylight. Not being able to Do anything but Run... The best Leon's Got is A Flashbang Grenade. The games still fun, But. I felt like they could've done better on Both The Killer and Survivor's End.

[@scottmemelord6130]

@@pontiffsulyvahn9182 Yeah, it feels kind of mildly disrespectful to have characters like Ash, Leon or Bill being mostly helpless. They REALLY don't feel like they belong in the game. Purely because the gameplay just does not match their characters. I'd have sooner seen Ash as a fucking costume in the new Doom game than being in DbD tbh. Like I get WHY they're in the game. But, it still doesn't really fit the characters at all.

[@dee9868]

Excellent job my dude. It literally broke my heart when they stopped all new updates and additional content!

[@harrybotter8762]

I was kind of hoping it would have been the NES version. I bought it from a gas station for $4 and I had "some" fun with it.

[@rtroyer33]

What gas station sells retro video games?

[@backbeathighway]

@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 Yep, this was pretty common, especially in smaller towns that couldn't attract a Blockbuster or Family Video or whatever rental chain was otherwise popular to the region.

[@harrybotter8762]

@@backbeathighway basically this right here. Middle of nowhere gas station in southern GA early 90’s.

[@zenondonaldson8401]

Thank you so much for making this! I love this game for so many reasons. It has a cinematic quality when you play it that makes each match like its own horror film that you and your friends get to star in. It's so good and deserved far better than the fate it met. It was very apparent that this game was a labour of love for the devs, and they deserve appreciation and sympathy, not scorn. I hope this sets the record straight. Please also note that this game is still playable: while servers are down you can still play with friends on a dedicated server and there's a Discord server to find other players as well. It's definitely worth it!

[@cheeseburgah563]

Man, really hope they can make a sequel one day. I would love to convince Jason to kill the other counselors and not me once again.

[@roscoe5427]

i remember launch day like it was yesterday, i was and still am an xbox player when it comes to this game, and i remember everyone posting private game posts and everyone playing in private games until we could play online regularly. there were so many posts that i found it easy to find games with other people

[@MagnusMKI]

As an early backer and one that got the Savini skin before that debacle happened, I enjoyed my time. I think the majority of the frustration towards the teams ended up being the lack of communication as things went south, but nonetheless it was a great time while it lasted

[@davidmaxshort]

That Dungeon Explorer music really took me back. Thanks for the vid.

[@GuiasMaurelChile]

Now we just wait for the lawsuit to set and get a next gen remake with all the content so far and more

[@captainjobber3284]

I loved this game so much. Played it with a friend non-stop for a very long time, and crazy enough, we never got bored of it. Honestly, I'd say buying the game is still a good idea in 2021.

[@ghstag0nyy832]

this games downfall has to be one of the most depressing ones ive ever experienced....i hate the people involved in the lawsuit now and probably will forever lol

[@Mort360]

Private matches with my friends at 3 am in voice chat is some of my favorite moments I’ve ever had playing video games with friends. I hope this gets more justice as it’s phenomenal

[@tommymurashie]

This game was so fun. I wish it got the updates it deserved. The attention to the details from the movies was incredible.

[@Fournonu]

“We dont think players want a horror multiplayer game” Dbd:

[@guttsu]

One of their devs used to hang out in the chat of a streamer I watched at the time. It was obvious just from interacting with him how much pride they took in this game and how much love was put into it. Another great thing ruined by lawyers.

[@datbutteryfruit]

damn. where did the time go? feels like yesterday i was watching my favorite gaming channels play the demo! so sad to see how it's gone. what a golden age for YT as well!

[@IronBeagle2003]

The best part of this whole thing is Harry Manfredini returning to score the game after being absent from the franchise after Part 7 The New Blood. The Game’s Score is a fantastic updated score and probably my favorite score in the franchise on par with Jason Lives’ Score.

[@disgorgingconsciousness2250]

Yo Matt! Much love, super proud of you, king. Keep Killin it

[@DaneVogel]

Also you should have mentioned Jason's gamer channel. Still making semi-weekly uploads after 2 years the servers shut down.

[@DarthLord-5000]

Yeah and he plays against bots from now on which is sad.

[@exquisitesiamesecat]

"Players don't want a multiplayer horror game" Dead by Daylight fans: *you said something?*

[@TJGarvey]

This game is so much fun and always has been. Playing with friends is still a blast and actually brings friends closer, it’s that special of a game. Really sucks what happened, I know there’s a 0% chance they ever work on it again but I still hold out hope