From Teen Victim to Murdering her Manipulator | The Case of Killer Sarah

Harold Sasko had manipulated vulnerable eighteen-year-old Sarah McLinn who, unbeknownst to him at the time, would eventually snap back in the most violent of ways… and all of a sudden, the predator had become the prey.
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00:00 Intro
01:25 Harold Sasko's disappearance
04:35 Dark Discovery
06:10 Sarah Gonzales Mclinn
12:12 Hal's and Sarah's Relationship...
17:47 Spiralling signs
18:49 On the run
20:25 Recalling Hal's fate
22:47 Psychology / Legal
27:52 Outro
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[@CoffeehouseCrime]

In a poll on instagram, I asked viewers what they thought about this case. 71% of you believe that Sarah does not deserve her prison sentence. Be part of future debates here - instagram.com/coffeehousecrime

[@Brian-ul3ql]

Innocent

[@theoryofpersonality1420]

Telling wouldn't save her. Idiots would just say he's such a great person because he sat in church sometimes. The cops wouldn't help her because she was over 18. She couldn't leave or she would be hunted down and killed. No one was going to help her. She had no choice but to save herself.

[@NoEvidenceForGod]

Would be interested to see the potential difference in results if Sarah was a male. Also if Harold was female. My inclination is that is wouldn't be as high as 71%.

[@allieaudio9965]

@@NoEvidenceForGod Whether we like to admit or not, pretty privillige exists.

[@roseoverdose6451]

Sarah should 100% be in prison for life. She could have just left him but decided to kill him instead. Murdering animals too? She's too messed up in the head and we don't need her perverting society.

[@ThisCrazyRALife]

I think that this analogy sums it up: Hal essentially kicked a dog until the dog had enough and finally bit him.

[@noriwilliams4637]

yes,yes,yes

[@JakeKoenig]

That’s the claim of a murderer. Of course you and the guy running this channel bought her story hook line and sinker. You don’t know how much of this story is accurate. Plus she was 18 and could’ve left anytime she wanted without murdering someone. Edit: to all the idiots replying to my comment, as a child I went through physical and psychological abuse you can’t imagine. And the day I graduated high school (at age 17) I left home forever, and I didn’t murder my parents on the way out. See how easy that was? I used my working legs to walk away from my abusers. Stop making excuses for a murderer just because it’s a woman.

[@hv97]

@@JakeKoenig "could’ve left anytime she wanted without murdering someone" did you even watch the video??

[@SpookyYetPolite]

@@JakeKoenigIt’s not always that black and white for the victims

[@CbaDropDead]

@JakeKoenig "could've left at any time" You definitely haven't been in an abusive relationship.

[@Wastingsometimehere]

No he didn't have "good traits". This family is ignorant. The good deeds were to build trust. Trust he can later exploit. He was just a sociopath.

[@fredwillemse]

Right, and the fact that he was church-going doesn't make him a good man. Too much hypocrisy in this world.

[@GetCraftyLemons]

Agree completely with both of you!!!!

[@ahetzel9054]

Dude seriously, he was just masking his intentions, he was a monster parading as a saint... It's disgusting that the family thinks she still needs to be punished... Shes the victim, not him!

[@hannabanana592]

Manipulative sociopaths can appear to be the nicest people when they want to be. They are also very good at making you feel like you are making your own decisions when they are feeding them to you. And like other abusive assholes, they can make the victim feel like they deserved the abuse or have pushed the limits so much that victims don't even realize they are being abused 😢

[@alicianelson1252]

They definitely made sure she wouldn't get a fair trial

[@GracefulWillowTree]

I am absolutely horrified that anyone could be on the fence about this. She was abused and molested when she was a young teen, suffered so much trauma that she developed DID, and was surgically modified to fit this sick man's preferences. He didn't lock her up in his home, but he sure as hell made threats about what he would do if she left, and she was absolutely financially shackled to him. So she finally freed herself, saved her life, and what did the legal system do? They caged her again. She deserves mental health treatment, not to be locked away.

[@elsbet1656]

❤

[@FrenkieWest32]

Mental health treatment is also being locked away...

[@MidnightBenz]

She could have just left, just like she did after killing him.

[@wasteddude]

How are you horrified that someone can be on the fence? I agree with the guy who made the video. He didnt need to be killed for her to escape.

[@tojo9253]

action are actions she is now the monster who can do this to someone else. most serial killers are born from traumatic events

[@ladymallowyt]

It scares me to think of how many 'nice guys' we come across or meet but in their homes they're the worst evil humans

[@annieannie2887]

I've at this day and age decided ALL are monsters until proven otherwise. It keeps me and mine safe.

[@elizabethstanley4541]

There is no such thing as a harmless person. I’ve met waaaaay to man men of God who were pure evil.

[@thisguy8373]

Same can be Said about women....just doesn't go one way🚬..but this guy was evil. That's a fact

[@AlTheWombat]

Every single one of us is capable of unimaginable evil given the right circumstances.

[@einienj3281]

Many. Too many. I've met too many already, don't even want to think about how many might still be in my life. Only person you can truly trust, is you. Everyone else might have dark secrets behind their "nice masks"..

[@hollienelson6738]

This poor girl didn't stand a chance from day one. That brief moment of hope after her release from the hospital was life's cruelest joke.

[@Obsessed_With_Corgis]

Right? And even now, I don’t understand how she wasn’t *at least* locked up in a psychiatric facility! She doesn’t deserve prison, she needs genuine mental help!

[@JennieHD999]

⁠@@Obsessed_With_Corgisbc the American judicial system isn’t designed to rehabilitate, unfortunately. That being said, the mental health units/long term psych hospitals are said to be even worse than jail or prison. I didn’t graduate but did more than 3/4 of my coursework to be a forensic psychiatrist, those credits are still valid and I’ll never use them, bc I cannot stomach the reality of the career path I worked so hard toward. It’s not a pretty picture from any angle 😢

[@MsTygame]

@@JennieHD999that’s too bad. There needs to be less jaded people to help others.

[@LordMephilis]

That is a sad truth, the person she ended up turning to was not there to help her. Sounds like her mother tried, but by that point she seems like she was done listening to her parents.

[@Dee-so3by]

@hollienelson6738, so are you saying you would have been fine if she was found "not guilty?" Cry me a river, I hear the violin playing.

[@dansihvonen8218]

He was nice because it helped him get in touch with vulnerable people he could use.

[@lavadasnjokorn4732]

👍🏻 yup

[@GetCraftyLemons]

💯💯💯

[@sendmorerum8241]

He made those people indebted too; their job was to make him look better and possibly defend him if anyone says he's a creep.

[@Dahmer_Jeff]

It's called grooming

[@availanila]

That's what I was thinking too. Nice? No, he was trading acts for access to the vulnerable and character defenders! Manipulative scumbag.

[@blistertooth]

If Gypsy Rose Blanchard can walk free, so should she. This isn’t fair. She was exploited, abused, groomed, and forced to go under the knife. She deserves her freedom.

[@kanoaikawach]

Absolutely fucking agree.

[@Blackbeard0531]

Gypsy spent 8 years in prison. But I agree to an extent. Gypsy was a bit different. Gypsy manipulated Nick To kill her mother. Planned over months. It didn’t bother me that Gypsy did some time even though I think she deserved less. Sara deserves no time whatsoever

[@chi-chi6354]

The court system is full of powerful men just like Hal. That is why when victims defend themselves, the courts tend to give extremely harsh sentences with no regard for the circumstances. They have to keep up the status quo.

[@masterthief27]

​@@Blackbeard0531 I agree with this case but to understand gypsys case you kinda have to understand her mothers mental illness of muchousen syndrome byproxe

[@aspen4786]

As someone with DID, my heart aches for her. I know the stereotype is that people with DID are violent and have violent alters, but that’s really untrue. In fact, we’re more likely to be taken advantage of and victimized due to our minds being more vulnerable. The only time any of my alters have been violent is because they were pushed to the edge, and did what they did to protect us. Even then, our protector wasn’t violent, but did hurt people verbally to get them to back off so he wouldn’t have to hurt them. The fact that her and her alters felt that the only way out was to kill a man truly speaks volumes. I’m sure there’s so much more trauma buried under there that we don’t know of. I hope she gets the help she truly needs and deserves.

[@Ho4130x]

This happened out where I live. You gave way more info than what the media and police gave when all of this happened. One headline was something about "older man takes in homeless girl, man found dead."

[@TheeQuinnM]

Tf? They're so wrong for that it makes me mad

[@ridiqulos]

wow

[@Goddess_Nkem]

Typical media🙄

[@larae6885]

I remember this. I live in Topeka

[@CallMeTaste]

J. C.... That's an awful headline.

[@YaBreezyBree]

For those outside of the US, Cici's is a chain of all you can eat buffet style pizza places. This man didn't name it that, he was a franchisee.

[@ricktandron3669]

Hal was famous for helping his employees and strangers. Hal never hurt anyone.

[@Mamacat1357]

@@ricktandron3669 Apparently, he did.

[@michellegallia9361]

@ricktandron3669 Did you not just watch the same video as everyone else, or…?

[@GetCraftyLemons]

@@michellegallia9361 I think that was sarcasm. 🤷‍♀️

[@jarrodlespreance8518]

Ahhh! Texan here, but admit I was curious about that. Thanks for the clarification. Our local shutdown like 2015 or so. Thought it was linked. Haha

[@jasonlockwood22]

In such a unique case like this, I find it shocking that the jury isn't full of mental health professionals: a person without medical expertise is out of their depth deciding her fate. Wow

[@catsssss9098]

this story sums up the quote "you reap, what you sow"

[@IamCec]

She does not deserve this punishment. Or any. That is insane. She was literally surgically modified and drugged to fit this old man's fantasy. She did the world a favor by finishing him off. How sad, she deserves rehab and freedom. The only reason she became dissociative and violent is because of the horror she suffered. Insane.

[@DianaOsazenaye]

true

[@daniels2852]

Nah she killed the rabbit

[@elvishards8161]

Bollocks 2 wrongs don't make a right

[@cdes1776]

@@daniels2852 ....as a symptom of her abuse.

[@kjenkz98]

Just because someone suffered doesn’t mean that if they commit a vile act they shouldn’t be punished. I feel bad for her but let keep it real do you care about the circumstances of robber when you are robbed or just the fact that you were robbed. We can use their trauma as mitigating factors but not out right release. As the previous gentleman said two wrongs don’t make a right. If you sold someone a bad car does that give them the right to beat you within an inch of you life. If you think so then to what degree should that individual be punished ?? See how this turned into a slippery sloped argument because that is exactly how the prosecutor will frame it at the end of the day

[@echoingemotions]

This reminds me of a case in France, a few years ago. This old lady killed her husband, shot his back. However, all her life, she and her daughters were abused by him, and she was never able to get out. When she was arrested, a lot of people protested, demanding the president to give her a pardon.

[@Ninja-ty4lw]

Can you please tell what happened? Did they release her?

[@echoingemotions]

@@Ninja-ty4lw tbh, i'm not sure, I think they did release her! but idk if the president gave her a pardon.

[@andreacalmado5429]

Yes it was a big thing in France when it happened as the story was even more creepy that we though in the first place. She was send to jail in 2014 for a 10 years sentence, but she obtained the presidential grace in 2016 due to the circumstance so she was free, still considered guilty but she was free so she went back ot her home and finish her life peacefully. She passed away in 2020 due to health reason, she was something around 70 years old.

[@duszekanyzratak]

Could you share an article or the name of this woman?

[@andreacalmado5429]

@@duszekanyzratak Her name was Jacqueline Sauvage

[@redcouchsportscasts6566]

I actually knew Sarah in our earlier teenage years. She was a really nice girl. I always felt like there was a lot of hurt and pain behind those eyes and that smile. All around a tragic story. 💔💔

[@simonsays5979]

She doesn't deserve prison at all. He was a slimy predator and preyed on a very vulnerable, unsuspecting girl. If she didn't do what she did and he ended up getting caught, he would have gotten a small slap on the wrist and then moved on to the next girl and would have never been held accountable for destroying innocent lives

[@zoegartham312]

I'm honestly disgusted with this entire case. What Hal did to an already traumatized woman is unconscionable, and in any other circumstances he'd be the one locked away. The fact that Sarah is the one serving Hal's sentence is a farce. If there ever was a case to be made for pre-meditated self defense, this would be it. She's defending herself against years of abuse and torture, not a singular event, so of course there's going to be some sort of plan involved. I just hope she is getting the help she most definitely needs to cope with DID and the unfairness of the situation. The best analogy I can come up with right now is that it feels like someone is teasing a bear at a zoo, ends up falling into the enclosure, gets mauled, and now it's the bears' fault that the person is dead, when in reality it is the individual's own stupidity that got them killed.

[@beyondbackwater4933]

What crime do you think he committed that would cause him to be locked up?

[@cdes1776]

Love your last analogy. It's true in this case - and in the analogy. I despise when an animal is euthanized when it clearly is the idiots who are to blame.

[@YYmmmYY]

​@@beyondbackwater4933sex trafficking, rape, corruption of a minor, sexual assault

[@theresathompson9123]

@@beyondbackwater4933 Sexual grooming of an adolescent. He spent two years doing it . Predator.

[@debbyhutchinson6984]

That man was a sexual predator ​@@beyondbackwater4933

[@yvettethompson9329]

This is so painfully sad. I have a daughter and I shudder to think about all the pain, confusion & fear these teens go through. More & more I see that all these teens need is love. Real unconditional secure love. And the awareness of wolves in sheep’s clothing. Hal took advantage of Sara’s pain and confusion. Groomed her by his lies to love & take care of her to satisfy his evil heart. This should’ve been taken into account for her sentencing. Her sentencing just validated the lies her abusers told her about herself. 😢😢😢

[@TiffinyRogers]

He actually turned her into his killer. I so agree with you, all she needed & wanted was true, unconditional, sincere & genuine love. All children do😢

[@Huskyy]

She doesnt deserve any jail sentencing

[@dontdodrugs8538]

"So you drugged Hal and chopped his head off?" Sara- "Not me. That was Patricia"

[@brkillee]

Hal convinced her that if she tried to run without paying her back for his gifts that he had connections that would find and punish her. His deception led to his own death, a fitting end, Sarah was manipulated by Hal into killing him, my heart breaks for Sarah. I hope the justice system can see the error in their judgment here.

[@firefly88887]

It only Sarah’s word we have for that ? If Sarah had wanted away it wouldn’t have been hard to embarrass him , actually ruin him by simply going to the Police?

[@Kisha_can]

​@@firefly88887That's not how it works when someone mentally breaks you, and has you convinced that if you deviate from the rules in even the slightest way, you will suffer great harm. When someone has shown you what they're capable of when you follow the rules, the thought of what will happen if you don't follow them is terrifying. If what you're suggesting was so simple, the amount of kidnap victims that have any sort of freedom would be zero. Victim blaming out of sheer ignorance is gross. Do better.

[@user-uc8wv2zj9m]

@@Kisha_can agreed with you. there's alot of element to this case that are stacked against her. here in ireland. any woman who is charged with death of a man, it is deemed murder, on the understanding that when a woman kills. that due to her being the weaker party. it must be deliberate , planned and premeditate. if a many kills a woman, well its often manslaughter , he didn't mean it and that jardon.. she drove him to it. Sarah was a damaged young woman. Victim blaming in all abuse situation adds to justifying the abuse. wish he behave like a genuine good man, step father and none of this would have happened.

[@user-uc8wv2zj9m]

meant to say. when a man kills a woman it's usually deemed manslaughter. it "just happened " or "didn't mean it".

[@LeeirahBrashka]

well said.

[@HeatherHolt]

I feel worse for the rabbits than the “man.” 😓

[@ThomasSawyers]

Really? Because harming small animals is the sign of a sociopath, seems to me like she planned it from the start...

[@WhyAreWeHere2023]

hypocrite

[@ThomasSawyers]

@@WhyAreWeHere2023 nah its just because when a woman is unalives a sugar daddy and then lies about a debt that trapped her even thoughshe could have drugged him and just left, everyone believes her. Basically its just easier to blame the straight white man no matter what

[@TokaRivera-gb3mk]

​​@@ThomasSawyerswho knows if that's true or not but what you're not going to do is justify a predator's predatory behavior

[@TokaRivera-gb3mk]

​@@WhyAreWeHere2023 why ? Because she cares more about an animal's life than a man who PREYED ON children? Ok weirdo keep that same energy when somebody tries to be inappropriate with your children if you have any and I pray you don't

[@waverider8549]

When I was 14 and abused (essentially imprisoned in a house in a foreign country with no documents), I hurt the neighbour's cat (nothing too bad or painful). The incident still bothers me to this day ( I am 41). I tried to make up for it over the years, right down to not killing insects wherever I can avoid to, helping animals and so on. But I still feel disgusted with myself. I really hope that Sarah has the same change that I did.

[@theecosmetaverse]

You are so brave to admit this. I admire you.

[@waverider8549]

@@theecosmetaverse Thank you so much. I still feel horrible about it though.

[@alyahamzah1952]

The first time i was watching your videos was about 18 months ago. I had just delivered a baby and when he slept at night, I watched your video for abit while i had a late night snack. He's a year and a half now and currently sleeping soundly. I haven't been here for awhile. Im listening to you while im sipping my matcha latte. I feel like im revisiting a secret cafe only I know of. Comforting, familiar, warm and welcoming. Its also bringingel me back to when my son was only a few days and weeks old. Such lovely memories 😍

[@patrickblakethesaint]

This is one of the saddest stories I've seen in a long time. I feel so bad now. Thank you, as always, for being so respectful, with this horrific story

[@samdoors5132]

Life is so short we don’t have much time on this planet so you shouldn’t feel bad about this program because all you’re doing is giving away some of your time to negative feelings

[@patrickblakethesaint]

@samdoors5132 what? It's a sad story. Empathy. It's a real thing. We've all lost loved ones. What a weird comment. Please don't bring your lack of feeling to my comments ever again. Thank you.

[@Huskyy]

@@patrickblakethesaint He has a point i've spent 5 years feeling sorry and mourning people day by day and although i've learned alot of things i wish i spent my time better and continued staying away from these types of vids. And here i am making the same mistake by being here too, but I have feelings for these people who don't deserve suffering and pain, who've had basically so much of their lives unfairly taken away, and some unfortunately may seem to never live the proper live that they deserve due to past trauma and problems. Its really sad to think that there are thousands, maybe tens of thousands of other people, hundreds of thousands, all living similar lives as to the person in this video. It also makes you want to think what the dad went through as a kid to end up being who he turned into. Its just stuff that i'd really not want to think about much because its disturbing, in a world full of billions of moralless people so much will go wrong. Society like this won't stand long term, but probably more than enough for our lifetimes. Just be grateful that you aren't apart of their suffering, and to have the ability to help these people escape suffering whenever you have the chance. Knowing that you have the power to better this world even if its by one singular person is alot.

[@leslieshaw8594]

I remember this happening here in Lawrence! The restaurant was/is vacant still with the outline of the old signs on the facade. Everyone I spoke with at the time seemed angry that no one was helping her. I didn't know her sentence was reduced, I'm glad for that.

[@haji818721]

everyone was angry no one was helping her? Could someone from that anyone have helper her? I mean what are you angry about. The fact no one else did anything when you yourself did nothing?

[@leslieshaw8594]

@haji818721 with her case in the courts. I personally am not an attorney so...

[@piranhasaurusrex]

No way the abuse should have been concealed in court. I certainly wouldn't have called that consensual seeing as how she felt she had no other option.

[@wrmusic8736]

from the law's POV she didn't go to the police to report their "relationship" being non-consensual. Therefore there's no proof - only her word post-crime. Stuff like "she felt" also doesn't work as a line of defense. Violence can either be in self-defense or not. Now I don't doubt Harold is just absolutely to blame and I agree that the sentencing is harsh and she needed to be admitted to the mental institution instead - but there's a reason the law should stay neutral. Or we would see a lot of people getting away with murder like that - even without any abuse.

[@milannoelle1576]

@@wrmusic8736 ; except it wasnt just "she felt," she was coerced. by law, that can't be consensual. if he made her to feel imprisoned/unable to leave without threat of violence then everything about their situation shouldve been treated as non-consensual in court. this was just a vile miscarriage of the law. and unless you went through all the court documents, we dont know just from this video whether there was no evidence of her being falsely imprisoned.

[@wrmusic8736]

@@milannoelle1576 so how do you know she was coerced into anything then? Based on what we know that wasn't the case.

[@TheLord_of_ForbiddenDecks]

As a person with DID, I honestly am disgusted with the law on this one. Sarah should be in an institution getting the support for her mental health that she deserves instead of rotting behind bars 🤬🤬🤬

[@crishere]

I’m a teacher at a workshop with a full hour for lunch. Sneaking away to my car to watch Coffeehouse Crime.

[@bigtone231]

Ay yall she in the car!

[@perhapsbutmaybe]

Why do you have to sneak away if it's your break?

[@19Lillith]

@@perhapsbutmaybeinstead of socializing during lunch maybe

[@iamfabulousfaaab]

​@@perhapsbutmaybe because F people 😂 its me time for that hour!

[@slagathorpunchinello2482]

That feeling though😊

[@MarieAntoinetteBestQueen]

It's absolutely disgusting that they lock up a gurl because she finally fought back for herself. She's been through so much already. She deserves to be free and helped. She wasn’t born with those violent desires. These people did it to her

[@daisyrain35]

This was a very great series. I was in high school during this time and knew bits and pieces. My mom said everyone she knew believed the brothers and was hopeful they would get off completely. This broke my heart and made me cry many times. I already stated in a previous comment I hope they get put. Rebuild the remaining period of their lives with their supportive family and I hope everyone watches your series because I think more people would be so supportive of the brothers if/when they get out!! Good luck to them on their Appeal!!!

[@DianaPrinceitiswhatitis]

This was featured on Deadly Women which skipped all of the details that you provided. The audacity and entitlement this man had is insane. He was a typical narcissist thought he could force her into a relationship with him. He was too old to be doing anything of the sort! He was a predator only hiring young teens and barely legal women for his sick fantasies. Those young women don’t want men that age! The fact that he knew of her previous abuse and became like the men that previously violated her is sad and upsetting! He weaponized her trauma against her to control her! He was a predator period. These types of men aren’t nice for nothing. His sins found him out. The innocent project needs to look at this case! He contributed to his own demise.

[@cookie5535]

"barely legal"? what???? lol.

[@noriwilliams4637]

She wasnt a woman she was an abused girl/child.

[@haji818721]

The Innocence Project doesn't take cases where the person is obviously the killer. What an odd thing to say. She certainly wasn't innocent.

[@bakedpotato6534]

​@@cookie5535 do you know what barely means? She was 17 when he started grooming her and based on the video the age of consent in the state is 18. So yeah she was "barely" legal when he started his abuse.

[@CyberusSuper]

​@@bakedpotato6534 You're either legal or not. There's no middle ground when it comes to the law.

[@Forflipsake]

He sounds sick in his head. Did he really think this girl would be so moulded to his needs that she wouldn’t snap one day?. An abused dog bites back eventually and there’s no difference here. Just think about what type of mindset and person you have to be to think so twisted and inflict this type of emotional , monetary, S abuse on someone for your own sick pleasure and machinations.

[@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN]

The funny thing is he and the life he led were in many ways the pinnacle of the shared values system we have imposed on us in The West. He worked hard and followed the letter of the law... save for the contents of his hard drives, that is. We have developed a pretty disgusting values system as a whole, maybe it is best reflected by the system that thinks this girl, after all that abuse, deserves 50 years to life in prison, for depriving society of Hal... who truly is the exact type of person our society values above all others.

[@ddl4374]

WELL SAID !

[@Bell.-]

This hits hard. I was her several times before. Born into a drug addicted household that hardly knew where I was more than half the time. Even when I was as young as 7. I ended up in two cities over selling candy and candles in a giant cooler in Phoenix, in the middle of the summer, unsupervised, after some 20 year old dudes asked me to and said they would give me a dollar for each item I sold. They wrote their number down and dropped me off. (I'm 30 now) this was when I was 9. I got heat stroke and passed out in front of a car dealership. Things like this happened all of the time, no clue why no one stepped in. Anyway, life continued and continues to hit hard. I've had men like this come into my life and spend a lot of time getting me to trust them. To believe they were there to help me. It always ended up the same, but when you have no one and you're young and desperate you take those risks. Luckily I never fell into addiction. I partied in high-school for the whole 3 years I spent there. But that was it. I still have a lot going on, especially lately. But I'm a lot more careful when it comes to men. L

[@jameshw9751]

It's such a shame that so many men are like that.

[@jazzy5975]

Free Sarah ✌🏽

[@neneshubby]

Excellent analysis. I normally am skeptical of these mental illness claims, but in this case, this girl was clearly, clearly damaged from what she had been through. She definitely should have gotten some time, but she needs help more than she needs incarceration. The longer I live the more I realize how many times there are shades of gray in these crime issues.

[@m.ccheddarbox874]

I've always recognized the gray area, but as I've gotten older, it's gotten bigger.

[@kayleigh3648]

They’re BOTH disgusting! Remember how she was killing innocent animals prior to the murder, and that she didn’t HAVE to murder him to get away, she could’ve just LEFT! Obv she was able to leave, cuz she did so right after the murder! I’m struggling to find sympathy for her, other than being treated poorly by the guy; which again, she could’ve easily ran away from.

[@vez3834]

@@kayleigh3648 She could leave, but he said he had people who could find her. She was indebted to him financially and he knew everything, possibly including blackmail, about her.

[@vez3834]

What she needed was help indeed. She needed a safe place to live in and a lot of therapy. She also needed a future to look forward to and work towards, such as college which she was planning already.

[@blarfroer8066]

​@kayleigh3648 the human psyche is a lot more complex than what you're making it out to be. With all the debt he put on her, and the physical changes he made her go through, she would've never been free from him. There's a high chance that even the legal system would've sided with him.

[@waterlessaxis6212]

Let's go! My wife is home from the ICU, and we can enjoy watching today's video together. Unfortunately, though, we were told the other day that her cancer has spread to her heart and lungs. So she's now doing in home hospice care. We appreciate all the love you guys showed us last week, which shows how amazing this community is. ❤ Keep up the great work, Adrian, and God bless you for all you do to make these videos. We still can't wait to try classified coffee soon. ❤

[@CoExist64]

May God be with you and your wife, you both will be in my prayers. God bless you both

[@waterlessaxis6212]

@@CoExist64 thank you so much.

[@sonjastanger5858]

Sending prayers 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽and smudges 🪶🪶🪶and love❤❤❤, God Bless you both☮️🤗🕊🙏🏽🪶

[@ana-zb7ix]

I’m so sorry to hear your wife’s condition. Cancer is a horrible thing. A virtual hug to both of you. You sound like a loving partner. Glad she has someone by her side and you guys are enjoying life and each other’s company at home.

[@carolinesimpson3819]

Sending love and support to you and your wife. Take care x

[@cristinawilliams7870]

Another great content creator to tell us a great story. I think he groom her in every way she was obviously young vulnerable and took advantage of her. Hope she can get out of jail and have another chance to strat her Life..

[@alpschild]

This poor kid did not deserve this life. She should be getting mental health support, not sitting in prison.

[@analilla]

The sexual abuse and the trauma that results from it becomes too overwhelming and heavy to bear that the mind creates alters to cope. I feel awful for Sarah. This one is so heartbreaking to hear about.

[@tiffanyyllera5977]

Never heard of this case! Thank you for featuring it!

[@Ashryth]

Such mental and physical abuse, is so often written off by men who don't understand how destructive verbal abuse can be to one's mental state and self-image, add to that sexual abuse, and everything else and I am truly proud of her for finally having the courage to set herself free. The law fails again, men fail again, such is life and until that changes, these things will continue happening 😢

[@whynothappy320]

Niccceee a new video 😭😭 I’ve been watching all his videos everyday haha I was running out of videos to watch 🤭

[@nittis11]

Thank you for covering this case. You have released so much more information than what the media disclosed. 😊

[@hvseul]

In Dutch we have a version of “a drowning man grasps at straws that directly translates to “a cornered cat makes strange jumps”. It really felt like she was at the end of her rope. She probably saw no other way out. But the fact that she skinned the bunny does show premeditation.

[@panelperception]

This episode was terribly good. What a talent narrating it too!

[@uhCesar]

Great delivery! Hard topics don’t allow easy avenues. You do great to try to make it relatable. Thank you for always making it a prob .🎉

[@MT-dh2tr]

Adrian you are almost at 2 million. One of the best crime Channel! Thanks for thinking about the victims as well! I am not sure about the victim in this video.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you! Almost there! ☕

[@RindaJane]

@mt. I so agree. Adrian is our #1 channel ❤

[@RollsCanardly-fv9ks]

Adrian of the low T, obvs never kissed a girl, oblivious to tge parasitic nature of the modern spoiled drugged up ovarian. Kang Kuck

[@adambaxter7380]

EWU is professional? That's reaching a bit, imo. 😂

[@yukiefromoz2573]

@@me0101001000 I cannot listen to Rotten Mango nor Grazy TV (although their content is different and interesting), which is funny as I am an Asian female myself lol.

[@Cory-lh3yp]

You have a great way of explaining things and telling a story. Netflix would have made 5 1-hour episodes out of this and still not covered it in as much detail as you did in 30 mins. A real talent.

[@carolelangat-fortune4557]

😅😅😅, you are right. Adrian is both empathetic and thorough. I love the way he presents his well researched cases.

[@Cory-lh3yp]

@@carolelangat-fortune4557 it’s such a talent. I know crime is his thing but I wouldn’t mind seeing him branch out across other subjects as he explains things so well and is so good at telling a story in a short amount of time

[@jen4455]

Super unfair! It does not matter if he was a positive person, if he ruined someone else's life. What a horrible individual.

[@gregorysoble8494]

I completely feel for that poor woman. She was 100% the victim and she found justice the only way she could. It's a damn shame she was found guilty.

[@theresathompson9123]

Her turn to violence brings to mind Eileen Wuornos. Her lifetime of abuse, beginning at seven years old, was never considered at her trial. I don't really support the death penalty in most cases but I was appalled when it was given to her. Tragic. Hal was a predator, a groomer and abuser. He pre planned her enslavement for two years. Longer than she spent planning his murder.

[@amandawynkoop9584]

I actually did Sarah's intake at TCF. I won't go into detail, but when I say she had serious Manson Lamps, I mean absolutely zero life in her eyes. What he did to her absolutely robbed her of her soul. She will be traumatized for the rest of her life. I'm glad they appealed and got her Hard 50 sentence lowered.

[@California_Poker]

Why? If what you stated to be true, she will get out and kill again.

[@GetCraftyLemons]

​@@California_Poker It doesn't mean with counseling and help that she can't overcome this. She wasn't born this way. All the abusers created her downfall to try to survive this POS monster. I hope she has gotten help and is healed!!

[@denesem2161]

Your post, if true is inappropriate and a violation of HIPAA. You know better.

[@silasfrisenette9226]

​@@denesem2161 Grow up ..

[@desireemosley7526]

​@@denesem2161pretty sure it's not a HIPAA violation. It was a correctional facility intake, not a medical facility or even medical care in a correctional facility setting. HIPAA doesn't apply here.

[@lwazimdladla4024]

Love all your videos, from South Africa with love 🇿🇦❤

[@kristellebatchelor7888]

Crazy because I just saw this case from Investigation Discovery’s “Fear Thy Roommate” show and the angle was different. It never showed Hal as an abuser, rather, he took Sarah in and basically put him to debt because of all her lavish spendings. It also showed a scene where Sarah cooked the rabbit for him and made him eat it 😩🫣

[@cuccicucci4480]

Probably going by court records and evidence. I got the feeling she milked Hal for everything she wanted. She had a roof over her head. She claims Hal wanted nose job, butt and breast implants. I think she wanted what she wanted. While on the run less than 2 weeks she get the tattoo she wanted. Maybe she thought she'd kill him and keep the house. Hal had his buddies over, she wasn't a slave. She was using drugs and drunk as a tween-ager. *Poor Bunny*

[@aussi3212]

Yeah that's most likely the real story , that's why she is doing 50 years

[@ddl4374]

COME ON !🗣🤦‍♂️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦😱🤮

[@ddl4374]

​@@aussi3212yeah, that's real likely 😂 that poor fragile vulnerable helpless malleable docile timid MSN 😂

[@Catlvr63]

​@@aussi3212No, coffeehouse did the most true story. He absolutely took advantage of her and she made mistakes but didn't we all make mistakes as teens? Add in trauma, pressure, abuse, and holy crud threats too. Wanna put yourself in that and see what you'd do?

[@melissakyhlens1453]

Poor Sarah, she has only known abuse from men all her young life, and felt trapped after being groomed and turned into basically a human trafficking victim by a vile and disgusting predator. The system failed her. And I find it disgusting that his family said, although what he did was wrong, he also did good things, as if that could ever make up for all the horrible things he did, not only to Sarah but other victims too. God only knows how many victims he abused. He only did those “kind” things as a cover up for what he was really like, and not out of the goodness of his heart like his family claim. He wanted to gain people’s trust and then make them indebted to him, so he could force them to be his sex slave. Sarah should receive professional help and not be locked up for the rest of her life, she’s suffered enough already. 💔

[@mosisusasu9205]

Exactly, they're trying to praise him for helping his young attractive female employees with their finances, after having literally done the same thing to her with the intention of indebting her to him and coercing her into being his sex slave. I have no doubt he was expecting some sort of quid pro quo from them as well.

[@lena-Ramone]

Errr the rabbit being skinned is not something id do if id experienced what she had. Be careful. Their is something dark in her. He was a predator she was a predator too

[@melissakyhlens1453]

@@lena-Ramone I know, that one gave me the chills too poor rabbit. 😢 But we have to remember that even though a lot of people who have been terribly abused like poor Sarah was will never do the horrible things she did, she was a very damaged and broken soul from years of sexual abuse in her young life. First when she was a child, which breaks my heart, and then as a teenager when she was raped at a party, and then to be groomed by the vile murder victim and sexually abused again by him over a period of 10 months. And she probably never received any professional help to help her “heal” from her past traumas. That will mess with your mental health and stability, plus she did suffer from mental illness as well most likely from never had gotten any help when she was a child. Which must’ve left Sarah with a lot of rage and anger inside of her, and that is sadly not uncommon with sexually abused victims.

[@markallen2984]

I’ve heard of this story before, but I’m interested in listening to Coffeehouse Crime’s take on the events.

[@joannohalloran9632]

LOVE YOUR SHOW!

[@zwebackshyper9307]

anyone who believes she should get less time clearly has something wrong in their head

[@doodahgurlie]

You're the sick one if you think a 50 year old man grooming a 16 year old to be his life-sized Barbie that he can do anything to is okay.

[@kandreasworld4374]

When she bought and killed the rabbit, she went from a victim to a psychopath.

[@danielragsdale9849]

Pretty childlike take.

[@WolfDreamer101]

@@danielragsdale9849how so?

[@danielragsdale9849]

@@WolfDreamer101 It insists, probably unintentionally, that certain personalities can’t be victims which is silly. Then we’re honing in on the rabbit killing and giving none of it any context or grace, no idea why you’d do that just comes off kind of ignorant. Not to mention it reads like a snappy tagline you’re not meant to think about or look into too long or it starts to sound odd. Not a fan of taglines. You don’t stop becoming one thing and turn into another when it comes to stuff like this. Multiple things can be true. It’s childlike to me.

[@sweetanila26]

He was a predator…preying on young impressionable girls, grooming them and abusing them. It’s very sad that she was found guilty and still had to serve 25 years. She probably saved a lot of other girls from becoming abused by this POS.

[@roseboone1890]

So you’re blaming the victim who was killed? And saying the ho who does drugs and let old men have sex with them was innocent ? Gotcha

[@jupiterherranz-wilkinson3787]

agree 100%

[@sevenprovinces]

Usually I don't get -this- invested in a case of yours, as fascinating as I find them...but here do have some additional thoughts and had to re-visit your video: 1) Sarah came from a broken home and so, still in her vulnerable and formative years, already had to deal with a life event and possible trauma. 2) Hal indeed preyed upon her in the most horrific, despicable of ways - ways which betray a level of sociopathy considering his façade to the outside world. 3) He employed classic tricks of both building her up with compliments and in equal measure tearing her down with insults - a classic and horrific trick to build reliance and perpetual insecurity and dependence. He knew what he was doing. 4) In her weakened emotional state, he further added fuel to the fire, as another person here so perfectly put it, enabling drug and alcohol abuse. 5) Anti-depressants were then thrown into the mix, which are known to be able to create a disassociative state or, at first, further a depression. They can, sadly, do more harm than good. 6) It is clear that Sarah was not accustomed to having violent thoughts but, as she stated, started having them for the past two years. They were building up inside of her as evident in her killing and skinning of domestic rabbits. 7) The tattoo she got clearly shows that she was as terrified of her own darker side as anyone else. At least, so much seems clear to me. In conclusion, to me and it seems most other people here, Sarah went from a teenage girl who had to deal with a singular 'hard knock' in life, to it and her being abused, exploited and brought to the point of pure (manic) desperation. What Sarah needs and I think deserves is a re-trial, counceling and, following or during that, vocational training with something that makes her happy, gives her a sense of purpose and confidence. I think her life so far, the memories of all she has gone through and what she did, will already be punishment enough. When I saw the courtroom footage of her, I didn't see a killer, or someone without empathy or remorse, but someone broken and bewildered by her life so far. I never had this before, with any video, but I am tempted to propose that, with your help and those of your other followers, we set up a campaign for a lawyer to petition for a re-trial, to somehow offer support to this sadly damaged woman who I am convinced is not past redemption and deserves, finally, an honest shake at life and the genuine support that so far has been denied to her. Could you give me your thoughts? I am willing to put my effort and what little money I have where my mouth is, and start things such as a gofundme campaign and what little knowledge and contacts I have within the US legal system to somehow get this ball rolling, if other people are with me.

[@TrajityTheHoodHistorian]

Great content! Shout out from Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA 💪🏻

[@sancho8521]

...yo, Santa Fe! Sup?! mid Missouri

[@sallgoodman2323]

Predator and prey. The dynamics of the abuser and victim, the justice system as it tries to hold the parties accountable for their actions. This one is a tough one indeed. Thanks for sharing this story.

[@brandonpennell6419]

Woahhh, its been a while since I watched one of these videos but I see that subscriber growth. Congratulations! Still love these stories and your oration of them. Woah I've eaten at cici's pizza many times in high school but a couple of times as an adult with my own children.

[@Martiandawn]

Did a sexual predator victimize an innocent, troubled teenage girl, or did a budding serial killer manipulate a creepy old pervert to get free room and board and thousands of dollars worth of cosmetic surgery? We shouldn't give credence to Sarah's version of events simply because she's young and pretty and spun a heartbreaking tale of traumatic abuse 😂

[@juliennepujol5586]

A sexual predator victimized an innocent troubled teenage girl.

[@Martiandawn]

@@juliennepujol5586 According to the girl, who planned and carried out a brutal, premeditated murder. We do not have Harold's side of the story.

[@juliennepujol5586]

@@Martiandawn Harold's is a story as old as time unfortunately.

[@Martiandawn]

@@juliennepujol5586 Indeed. Less common are stories like that of Aileen Wuornos, the female serial killer who used sex to manipulate creepy men into giving her money before she murdered them. Unlike Sarah, Aileen was old and not particularly photogenic, so the people who watch KZbin videos are not likely to give her claims of rape and abuse as much credence as they do for Sarah.

[@doodahgurlie]

@@Martiandawn Sarah was 16 when she moved in with him. He knew her story of abuse so he zoomed in for the kill. He groomed her and made her his human Barbie doll but made sure to enslave her with debt so she couldn't leave. He belongs 6 feet under because if it wasn't her, it'd be another young girl.

[@TbagsPS]

Whether its a grown man or a petitie 18 year old, NEVER underestimate crazy. Harold got what was coming to him, its a shame it cost Sarah life in prison.

[@psychoman886]

This pulls at my heart. Ive been in 3 relationships, all if which i have ended up being physically assaulted. I was in my 20s but it still wrecked me. This poor girl was in her teens. I hope she finds peace

[@faarfaat8010]

❤🙏💪

[@penny8579]

There is always the DOOR and unless you couldn't open it and leave YOU allowed yourself to be abused.

[@michaelbiedassek7136]

I’m sorry to hear this Kate. I hope you found peace after that and that you have people around you that you can trust and rely on.

[@kweenjade01]

​@@penny8579not to mention that accountability needs to be taken for repeatedly choosing the same person over and over and over again. Fool me once, fool me twice...😅😢

[@SM-McKraken]

@@penny8579 Says someone who's never had to walk in those shoes.

[@larazaj]

Ive enjoyed every episode sir. Great style. Nicely done. This one got my sub! What a contrast in lifes early development, mid and into adulthood. Though she really never had a decent start at any of the three. I wish her time as institutional years rather than prison, taking a chance on re-entry into life as a product of how well institutional guidelines in development really work. I hope she someday gets a fair start.

[@ledlight6630]

What a sad story 😢 thanks Adrian 🙋‍♀️🌷

[@bettinakatze1]

Sarah should not be in jail at all, she should be in recieving therapy in a closed hospital! For Hal: Sorry, but I'm not sorry for him! Karma is a bitch! He was only doing good things for him to be praised, I guess! Exploiting an already traumatised girl like he did! Soo sad 💔

[@sun-youngsunnykim8794]

Hi, Adrian. I just discovered your channel and have been watching some of your old videos. What I love about you is the respective way in which you talk about the victims. Bless you!

[@cynthiapressley8455]

Thank you, Adrian. 😊

[@Meshellyne8]

2 million subs coming soon to you Adrian, Congratulations‼️

[@nhmooytis7058]

I was involved with an abuser, but I was 35, but I was able to move 2500 miles to get away with him, got extensive therapy, and had job skills. After almost a year I was able to move back and restart my life. And luckily he’d moved onto another woman (lucky for me not her) so he left me alone. At 18, used by an older man since age 14, his business your only job reference, getting away couldn’t be easy. Good for her for deleting the creep.

[@lockhak33]

I'm glad you were able to get away

[@nhmooytis7058]

@@lockhak33 thank you.

[@catdaddie]

so fucking sick... so if kidnapped victims have a plan to kill their captor and free themselves, they will also be charged with premeditated murder? and his family claiming that they still honor his good traits, what good traits!?!? a monster who can be giving is still a monster and will never not be a monster. i only wish he would've been awake to see who killed him, so he would know in his final moments that she was always stronger than him... (that miiiight be a little much but oh my GOD everything about this case pissed me off)

[@emilydavis162]

actually, yeah. There’s a girl serving a murder sentence right now for shooting her kidnapper who held her hostage.

[@sweetanila26]

It pissed me off too!

[@cdes1776]

"A wolf in sheep's clothing." A wolf was all he was by our estimation. He was a pig through and through who cultivated a "good side" so no one would catch on to his true nature as a predator.

[@benjaminollis7621]

well she wasn't stronger, technically, she had to drug him. and she did commit pre meditated murder, even if its understandable why.. she also killed rabbits so seems psycho

[@mikehat7652]

This happens to sex trafficking survivors quite often, they get pinned with murder and prostitution charges after defending themselves against a pimp

[@ameliaburke3241]

Thank you for covering this but this video does leave out A LOT of details including her mental health diagnosis, the story of her neighbor molesting her and skinning animals alive in front of her which is why she was skinning rabbits to practice killing her abuser. Her DID diagnosis and drug addiction was a huge aspect of this case so im surprised it wasnt included more, especially more of the details of the neighbor when she was little.

[@tiarrib3863]

The reason victims get harsher punishments than the perpetrators is because more often than not the judges over the case are predators as well. I hope she’s freed early

[@rachellara9067]

Let's caffienate while we investigate. Lavet!!! 😂😂😂

[@CurtMortis]

If she was 15-17, Why wouldn't the Mother not get back into her care ? 17 year olds don't get to choose where they live if their parents do not agree.

[@mini_skinny0296]

I was thinking that, too. It doesn't seem she was abused at home.

[@slimebunny5700]

I was wondering that too, usually parents have to give permission for their underage kids to move out. If she didn't give permission then something could of legally been done. Unless the laws are different there with the age being lower

[@alicecuriosityoftenleadsto6288]

When a teenager is rebelling all that it would accomplish is to push her further away. Im sure her mother found that out when she was sneaking out and running away. It's a hard balance between keeping them safer by control (which usually.backfires) or keeping them safer by keeping communication a thing and hoping they'll reach out when in need of help. I was one of those teenagers. There wasn't a thing my mother could have done to stop me. She tried, even had me thrown in juvie for running away. It was all useless. Just made me hate her.

[@AnawithoneK]

I feel like in these types of cases there's always the other side of the coin and we will never know his version. Sadly.

[@Neveko]

​@@mini_skinny0296 Her mom not fighting to keep her away from grown men means she wasn't abused at home? Are you capable of thinking a complete coherent thought?

[@mysticaleve]

Poor Sarah 😔 I'm more surprised that he was diagnosed with the rare case of DID. But even so, the court didn't take into count her mental disorder and still gave her 25 years instead of probation and therapy.

[@UrNOTaVictim910]

Damn two mill subs been with you snce 50k good job adrian

[@Mars-tx3yi]

Wow I've never been this early!! Love your vids Adrian, you're always so respectful towards the victims and their families. I love the background info on the locations too, it really helps set the scene for the case. Thanks for making great content!

[@LustBug]

Lawrence native here, but surprisingly never heard many of the details of this case. I remember the circulating rumors, but not hearing the full story. thanks for covering this case!

[@leozyofficial3523]

I've heard this story multiple times, but I still Love hearing it here

[@MexicoDigDoctor]

Adrian, you are part of the reason that Mondays are a great start to the week!

[@madd0911]

What a fascinating story, my heart breaks for Sarah. I honestly feel like she thought she didn't have a choice. If this guy abused his pets no one would feel sorry if he got bit. That's not to compare Sarah to an animal, but he certainly treated her like one. Based on her history of abuse I don't think she had any idea what resources to access and these horrible people are meticulous with their manipulation. They dont want you to feel like you can just leave. At the same time, you aren't allowed to kill people. Justice was served when she was sentenced, even if I disagree with it. I'm glad she was able to get it reduced but how sad for her to go from one prison to another.

[@MsLilac88]

Hello, I always feel intrigued by your amazing crime investigation series. 👍 I feel so sorry for the victim who had no choice but to murder the evil man who tortured her. 😢

[@itsyaboi_skinnypen15_]

THANK YOU TO THIS COMMENT SECTIONS !!! SANE THINKERS HERE I’ve gone to four other videos and I’m just so disgusted at people thinking she’s an asshole and someone that took joy in others pain .. when in reality she was a severely damaged girl was at her breaking point .. its disgusting to see these videos go up about her and people saying what they say about her but when it comes to these sick people that brag and play games with the police making everyone in the situation look stupid they defend and support OUT THE ASS !! light sentence talked on like their the victim .. but for her situation everyone is labeling her the devil .. SHE HAD NO ONE HELP HER UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WAS GOING THOUGH MY GOD .. I’m getting very angry and disgusted that people are really talking on this poor girl .. I don’t support the actions she’s taken towards the man and animals but she was a very mentally ill person that again slipped through peoples hands and now she’s getting in trouble for exactly could have been prevented if ACTUAL SANE PEOPLE stepped in and took the proper actions needed to help this poor girl out and get mentally better .. ugh I’m glad people recognize here that Harold was the real devil in disguise and his karma unfortunately came to him because of his sucking decisions

[@groundjiro]

Just got home from work omg perfect timing to watch a coffeehouse video and unwind HI ADRIAN!

[@jillianb1744]

100% if she had asked for help she would have been turned away. My friend lived with an abuser and the cops never helped when she would call 911. This is within the last year, not decades ago like you’d assume. Called battered women’s shelter and they are full and they don’t have a wait list, you just have to call every day to see if there’s room. My friend is still living with him but has been working on a covert plan to escape. She is young, orphaned and is a mother to a severely handicapped child. Baby daddy has her financially trapped. When he pushed her against a wall in anger and ripped her phone out of her hand causing her injury, the cops shrugged. When he he threw a chair at her and the baby and missed the cops said it didn’t count as abuse because she moved out of the way. Anyway, this story doesn’t surprise me.

[@melokc7257]

Agree m2

[@colbypatterson8273]

Why does she need the government for help?? She had a family she could have easily gone to. She CHOSE to live with him.

[@JackFirlow]

@@colbypatterson8273 How dare you mention personal accountability!

[@waywardsisters918]

@@colbypatterson8273 You have no idea what they are like before, god live in the real world. People like you make it worse for vitiams to get out.

[@superplayer1043]

​@colbypatterson8273 your that stupid huh dam

[@AzureProtagonist]

NICE BEARD!!!!! I used to watch you all the time, but life got busy so I haven't been tuning in regularly but seeing the facial hair is a nice surprise! 👌👌👌

[@lozzimusprime]

Let's just say I was more upset about the rabbit being killed than that piece of crap. Poor Sarah, my heart breaks for her

[@chickenlover657]

Poor Sarah? The woman was a total psycho.

[@Silentgrace11]

Cases like this are frustrating beyond belief. If Hal were tried for what he’d done to her, he’d get a slap on the wrist at most, but Sarah loses a large portion of her life for trying to escape him in the only way that seemed accessible. Since Hal had money and status on his side, I have no doubt he’d get far fewer years if he had taken her life too. It’s a disgusting double standard and we need to make more efforts towards not further disenfranchising those who are victims.

[@janececelia7448]

That's the justice system for you; they think women and children are irrelevant.

[@crabwalk7773]

Adrian, I like at the beginning of your videos, how you zero in on the area of the crime with geographic and other facts. A nice technique!

[@bodhi5933]

When the prey becomes the predator. I have seen cases where a person confessed to killing, chopped up their body without previous trauma and got only 10 years sentence. Yet this poor girl gets 50 years at first then gets 25 years for ending her abuser. This is how messed up the system is. She could've just run away when she drugged him. He was just saying she owed him as a ploy to keep her hostage. She can always report him for sexual assault on a minor if he tried to come after her. But she saw no other way out. She deserves to be treated for her trauma and get a lesser sentence. Appalling. This is one of those cases that grinds your gears.

[@goddessgia9869]

Killing him was her way of killing her connection to him and all the abuse she dealt with before him and at his hands.

[@Idiotbreadloaf]

When a push comes to a shove, someone's mental health that was already fragile to begin with is bound to shatter. The fact that HE took advantages of her by fueling her drug/alcohol addiction (It being a coping mechanism) is truly disgusting. I don't care if he did "good" back to the community, that doesn't undo what Sarah McLinn went through or the two teenage girls. She was already spiraling and he just threw fuel into the fire. I do think he should have faced justice and went to prison for the rest of his life and have what is coming to him tenfold by other inmates. She never should have done what she did and unfortunately for both families, something inside of her snapped. What she really needs is help for her mental health. I find it rather disturbing that his family acknowledge the wrong doing, but basically told the victim "Suck to suck" because they want to say "Good" things about him. He doesn't deserve it, just like she never deserved to be treated as such.

[@nlwilson4892]

He didn't "do good" he created camouflage. It is the same with peados running youth groups, sports teams etc. they create an outward image of being great with the kids but carefully pick the ones they abuse as being the ones least likely or able to report it. They create that outward image deliberately so that people are less likely to report them as they know that the community idolizes them and are likely to turn on anyone that speaks out against them.

[@David-tt1rb]

Mc Linn? I thought it was Gonzalez

[@uniquegod1997]

real, i agree

[@icankillbugs]

Guarantee you have a huge dangling septum piercing and blue hair

[@uniquegod1997]

@@icankillbugs do u habe a canser boss

[@bngball]

My ears perked up when I heard Cicis pizza and Oklahoma. I was a volleyball player from 09-15 and every friday we’d travel to a city for the games and it was a tradition to go to Cicis afterwards. This case feels pretty personal. That poor girl doesn’t deserve that long of a sentence. Maybe continued mental health treatment. But not prison.

[@lourias]

I hope we can understand the severity of the influence mental health has on a person's well being. Too often, mental health issues are not weighed in circumstances.