The Elf Who Discovered Tamriel - Topal the Pilot - Elder Scrolls Lore

[@whoknows7968]

I like how Topal is the most well known pilot in Tamriel, not because he was the best, but because he kept fucking up.

[@naka488]

Any reputation is good reputation... right?

[@lukec2004]

He may have discovered Tamriel, but he never discovered the Cloud district

[@koblfricker278]

CLOUT DISTRICT

[@lordcrayzar]

Nah, he did.

[@testegameplays4285]

Indeed

[@xicoruzumaki7875]

LUKA YES

[@insertnamehere1983]

Nazeem was the first person to ever visit the cloud district, and the last, no one else can ever go near the cloud district

[@braeduin]

21:14 - Riekling: Let me show you the dance of my people.

[@AngryCanadianGoose95]

All hail Neesa, Riekling-God of the Dance!

[@treemane0]

When you find out the God head has one hell of an imagination

[@lsswappedcessna]

Clearly the Godhead is Sheogorath.

[@kylesprenkel680]

@@lsswappedcessna that brings up a good question. Is the God Head in it's dream? like is someone you meet in the game the God Head?

[@lordcrayzar]

Kyle Sprenkel no

[@kylesprenkel680]

thats a shame if that is true. kinda weird too. Who is not in their own dreams?

[@Nikolaj11]

@@kylesprenkel680 M'aiq the liar must be the God Head! I can't see who else she might be.

[@etherraichu]

I really love the Khajiit lore, since it was made entirely to explain why the Khajiit in Arena are so different from the ones in future games.

[@nazeem8086]

Not to ruin your video but actually I discovered Tamriel.. Do you get to the cloud district very often? Oh what am I saying, of course you don’t.

[@Thebitchwiththewand]

I killed you 93 times in a row once...

[@17Watman]

*Sharpens Weapon*

[@Saniraf808]

“This guy”

[@Swolling]

One day I hope we'll see a Nazeem inspired build

[@docop8926]

You are my dead thrall, and we go to the cloud district often

[@FramesJanco505]

Perfect video to fall asleep too

[@giantred]

Hoping it works for me too ^_^ 0316 here and good Lord Sheogorath I need sleep

[@FramesJanco505]

@@giantred 0429 here and I'm exhausted, listening to Fudgemuppet on auto play is honestly relaxing. Good nerdy information to zone out on

[@Randy_Flamethrower]

Elijah Gallegos dude I do the same. Those first, second, and third era lore videos work wonders.

[@NuddMastersonChinoborous]

Oh hey you do that too

[@jotarodripjo4449]

Elijah Gallegos I do the same but with Vsauce

[@fusrodahdaily9664]

High Elf 1: Wanna hear a joke? High Elf 2: K. High Elf 1: Talos High Elf 2: XD

[@SilverFang2789]

Wack

[@FemurSnapper69]

Fuck you elves

[@pqbdwmnu]

Neva shoulda cum hēr

[@NuddMastersonChinoborous]

Nord: :O

[@hamzaferoz6162]

High Elf: We are superior to all men Also High Elf to Talos: We Surrender You are our Lord

[@hamzaferoz6162]

Topal the Pilot = Lief Eriksson

[@louispellissier4716]

more like Christofer Columbus, he was looking for India and ended in America, just like Topal looked for Old Aldmeris and Ended in Tamriel. Leif Eriksson traveled from Greenland to see what he could find

[@ethanhess8230]

Happy Lief Eriksson day! Hinga Dinga Durgen

[@ryanwatt6706]

*HINGA DINGA DURGEN*

[@williamk52]

@@louispellissier4716 yeah and even though he actually was a great explorer who had tons of knowledge, for every truth 100 lies.

[@ISoloYouRelax]

@@williamk52 same as with every prominent figure.

[@DLBBAM]

"Old Aldmeris" could very well not be an actual place at all. It might be, rather, a cultural remembrance of the fact that they as a people were not always what they are now. The former state of their race has been preserved in the cultural memory as a lost, distant place. Sort of a mythical way of remembering that they are degraded from what they once were, and that this ancient heritage is lost to them. The fact that they call this legendary homeland "Old Ehlnofey" would support this idea. I always thought that the homeland of the ehlnofey would logically have been in fairly close proximity to the Adamantine Tower. It makes sense to me that the Ehlnofey originated here, and gradually dispersed as they explored their new world and as ideological differences developed between them. This, of course, would imply that Tamriel actual IS Old Aldmeris, the ur homeland of the elves, and that the nedes are actually the descendents of the Ehlnofey that stayed relatively close to their point of origin. Which of course also means a significant amount Elfish ideology is based on a falsehood (big surprise that)

[@mithrae4525]

Fascinating idea. It'd also be consistent with the sea elves' exile location being near Tamriel, and with the Aldmer not knowing which direction to search for 'Aldmeris' (it's easier for storms to cause such total disorientation/loss of direction over a small distance than over longer distances). 200+ videos still to go in this playlist - hopefully FudgeMuppet explores that possibility in one of them!

[@thalmoragent9344]

Well no, because when the Direnni went to High Rock and the Snow Elves were vibing in Skyrim, along with the Dwemer and Chimer in Morrowind, Nedes were coming from the north, Atmora. Redguards hopped up in Hammerfell from Yokuda, and the Csaesi are from Akavir. Tamriel being the heart of Old Aldmeris makes sense, especially if it was a super continent before it was sundered by the Ehlnofey War. If they left from Adamantine Tower, it could be said they got caught in a storm as they perhaps split from there, and it may have messed up the ocean levels, forcing them to leave the now small island in the Illiac Bay. Would explain how Falmer and Dwemer were already on the mainland before the other Mer that left Summerset after leaving Tamriel for a short time before washing up on Summerset

[@derskalde4973]

Similarly, if I understood you right, that could mean that the Altmer have it backwards. I already had this thought, after I heard something about the Ehlnofey wars. If I remember this right, there it said something along the lines of "then it split Old Aldmeris, and it became Yokuda in the West, Atmora in the north, Akavir in the east, ..." and which was the south, if it was Summerset or Pyandonea, or something else, I can't remember (and I'm sorry,if I got it wrong, this was just from memory). So if this would be true, it's possible, that the Bosmer are actually closest related to their Ehlnofey ancestors, that they stayed on what is now known as Tamriel, while a group of Aldmer left, got "stranded" on Summerset and changed to the Altmer. And then there's the Maormer, who claim to be the closest related to the Aldmer, which could have some cernel of truth, since they seem to have a more maluable Form, as, according to the Stories, the Ehlnofey split into the Old Ehlnofey, aka what would become the races of elves, and the Wandering Ehlnofey, aka what would become the races of man. If we spin the Story from their angle: a group of Aldmer was banished from Old Aldmeris and eventually settled in Pyandonea, barely changing due to having to be adaptable to survive there; Old Aldmeris was split into the continents we know today, a group of Aldmer fled from the crisis (Continental Split) and landed in Summerset, eventually changing into the Altmer; some Aldmer stayed on the continent, eventually changing due to Environment etc, becoming the Bosmer and Falmer (possibly Dwemer and Orcs). Or something like that. In that way, the Maormer would be closest to the Aldmer. Either way would mean, that the Altmer would be wrong in their believe, that they are the closest related to the Aldmer, and every other elven Race is descended from them. (It would be actually very funny, at least to me, if it'd turn out, that the Altmer are really the youngest offshoot of elves, making them the furthest removed from the Aldmer)

[@kaleidoscope1693]

Plot-twist: It was actually the Adoring Fan.

[@ra_alf9467]

It's M'aiq The Liar

[@rumooooni]

Ngl that will actually be a good twist

[@helpmereach690subscribers3]

Thanks to you I now know more about the discovery of Tamriel then I do the discovery of America

[@AngryCanadianGoose95]

Topal the Pilot is much more interesting than Christopher Columbus. Also, I'm pretty sure Topal was not a tyrannical d**k-head, unlike Columbus.

[@Galimeer5]

3:25 You just have to say aldmer and altmer differently. Aldmer: "æld' mɚr" (the A makes the same sound in "cat") Altmer: "ɒlt' mɚr" (the A makes the same sound in "ball")

[@YTUSER69887]

Aldmer is a play on the Gaelic world for Old or Elder... Auld. So Auld-mer, makes more sense for the Aldmer as they would be older. Altmer, would sound more like Ultmer. With the emphasis being on the "t" sound.

[@tysonsavage1]

I love all your videos mate. Best channel for Elder Scrolls lore by far can't wait for the next video

[@LiamLefort]

Love your look ! 😄

[@tysonsavage1]

@@LiamLefort thanks mate

[@void9399]

@@tysonsavage1 Hahaha, no, there are better channels about the lore.

[@GibSnake]

CamelWorks is better, no questions

[@mf4963]

It's gonna suck if all this wonderful lore gets ret-con out of existence in ESVI

[@NETIERRAS]

if todd dosnt get his shit together in time, then tes vi is goin to suck major balls

[@trevonarcher6910]

NETIERRAS you mean to tell me that you don’t want to buy elder scrolls 6 horse armor for $5? Maybe a follower for $10? In all seriousness if Todd Howard and zenimax ruin elder scrolls 6 I will never look at gaming the same again. Skyrim is my favorite game and I want to have Hope.

[@rylonharmon542]

@@trevonarcher6910 I'm just never going to buy a Bethesda game again, and I'm a major Bethesda Stan, I didn't even get mad at Fallout 76.

[@skizzlechizzle]

NETIERRAS Ohhhh, myyyy, GOD. Can you guys quit whining about something that hasn’t even come out yet? Please?

[@fro_e]

exboi Can you stop being naive please lol?

[@xicoruzumaki7875]

High elves Dark elves Sea elves Snow elves Wood elves Now we need stone elves

[@varemenos]

The Dwemer.

[@OGStarlightKY]

Technically that’s the dwemer

[@justdude2775]

Tall humans, dark-skinned humans, pale humans, very pale humans...

[@redtormaximo5530]

We need stoneR elves.

[@xicoruzumaki7875]

@@redtormaximo5530 me and them elves would get along

[@autismatic8690]

He may have discovered Tamriel, but he never discovered any bitches

[@Iyana]

Every time I watch one of your videos I'm amazed at how extensive the lore is in Elder Scrolls

[@Altrantis]

I dunno why the thumbnail saying "THIS GUY!" made me laugh out loud.

[@hydrogenone6866]

Maybe the cat people ate the bird people. edit: Of course you mention that.

[@peryite9979]

Hydrogen One they may have devolved into harpies

[@6966-c8o]

Nazeem discovered the Cloud district

[@dstinnettmusic]

I’m convinced that ancient elves didn’t look like high elves. I think in their quest for perfection, they have mangled their form beyond recognition. I think the Bosmer, and to a much lesser extent, the Dunmer and even Khajiit are closer to the true original form of the Elves. I think elves were shorter and of a much frailer build than men. Topal looks more like a Breton than any Altmer. Notice Giants have some Elven features. So….this also implies that men and elves do indeed share an origin, as we are told in the lore. But my head canon is that the loss of Aldmeris is about the loss of the “before time”. Not a homeland in Tamriel or Nirn or even Mundas, but the time before creation itself. The sundering is the splitting of the races themselves, the chaos of reality that takes all that is whole and beautiful and splits it into “imperfect” smaller versions of the original. The fundamental differences between Mer and men, and even the origins of giants are all tied up into whatever the true cause of the creation of Mundas was…(on giants, I think their origins fall in camp of the earliest mortals not choosing a side in the debate on whether mortality was a blessing or a curse. They went silent and refused to argue the point and keep to themselves, probably much like the original mortal beings of Nirn. Frost Giants are unrelated and are the forefathers of trolls)

[@jonahk1593]

How do I stop keep changing my race in the early game of my playthroughs because I can't make up my mind. And end up making my character feel less real. Lol

[@Killmate50]

I love these kinds of videos. It's simple to follow, pleasantly voiced, and a whole lot of information to process. Also: Are you excited to see Elsweyr in ESO this June? I am so excited to finally see the land of the Kahjiiti.

[@alialzuheiry8220]

I hope that eventually the Empire will Topal the Aldmeri Dominion and regain full control of the Imperial provinces.

[@the_dropbear4392]

The empire needs to die, and a new one rise from its ashes.

[@the_dropbear4392]

@Wirr Ling yeah

[@gageperez1926]

@Wirr Ling #humanityfirst ✊ (said the guy who plays as a dark Elf) O.o

[@UnholyWrath3277]

@Wirr Ling because in any fantasy setting humans always breed far faster than the elves. So naturally mankind slowly overtakes the elves and replace them such as you see in elder scrolls or Lord of the rings lore. Elves will probably never be a majority again in most of tamriel without some serious lore rewrites

[@corbs3535]

you nwah let the dark elf’s take over they are the master race

[@winterholdcoastguard9008]

Topal the Pilot, sounds like a cool name

[@ewanmacdonald8466]

Orcs existing years and years before orcs could have existed... dragon break. The get out of jail free card for all conflicting lore.

[@NuddMastersonChinoborous]

Ogres

[@the_dropbear4392]

Ogres and goblins not orcs

[@stardude289]

But, there hasn't been a Dragonbreak from those eras. The Dragonbreak and it's emerging timelines happen at the point of the Dragonbreak forward. Not backwards, so everything that happened before the Dragonbreak, is not affected by the Dragonbreak, only after the Dragonbreak happens everything forward is affected. Plus, there are many sources saying that back in the day, Goblins were the size of men, giving them the name of Orcs, then they shrunk.

[@multiHappyHacker]

It's a historic snow day and youtube is showing me ads saying natural gas is bad. HILARIOUS There is 8 inches of snow and it's showing ads for solar panels.

[@taneman7139]

What i dont understand is how tf the ships get through that bridge in the river in modern tamriel

[@cynicalx7495]

Aldmer: *wakes up in the morning in Summerset after Aldmeris sank* "Shit, Johnriel, this isn't my house, it's just a replica, Aldmeris is lost. We gotta look!" Also Aldmer: *Back In Summerset* "Yo I've never seen this place. Ever!"

[@RobertSmith-ll1qv]

you guys rock! just started the podcast and i am learning i know nothing overall and couldnt be happier. keep it up!!!

[@cdv3401]

Another great video! I’ve learned so much about this franchise from you guys.

[@ValensBellator]

This is so cool, it seems like it's inspired by a combination of Hanno's exploration of the Atlantic African coast and the Greek explorer Pytheas who went north to Scotland and perhaps farther... Fighting furry humans they called Gorilla, pytheas encountering a sea made of "jelly" (probably icy slosh), seeing mountains with fire that touched the sky (probable active volcano), and even the weird cartographic mistakes like assuming Scotland ran east to west. It also reminds me of those stories of St Brendan exploring the North Atlantic and encountering fascinating places and creatures. I love those early exploring stories, and they did a great job with this one.

[@The_OCarlins]

No...stop

[@ValensBellator]

mydog boots Lol stop what?

[@sharkloving_aquarist]

Maybe the lefthanded elves were the result of the ship going to Yokuda... correct me if I'm wrong tho. But I read that they came from Aldmer so idk lmao

[@supernova582]

The cat people killed the bird people wait is that racist?

[@typoanonymous]

Racism is common in these games

[@supernova582]

There a beast race there 2nd class compared to man and elves change my mind

[@herpydepth1204]

supernova582 My cats do it all the time so I just think it’s the natural order of things

[@supernova582]

@Neo Pet me no speak no Englisho! I don't Comprehende what you're trying to say! Senior

[@troyertribe03]

Realism my friend realism, it actually does my heart good when a fictional world doesnt spare the gruesome or unjust details, it's what the world would have been like. I just wish they would have encountered a race of beings thst strongly resembled (morality-wise) the lovely feminists we know today. Now THAT would have been a genocide which I would pay to see 😂😂

[@lstatic21]

FudgeMuppet is ShoddyCast 2.0

[@weirdreportt]

Shoddycast didn't continue the series ever tho. I think, Fudgmuppet is a beter version of Shoddcast

[@lstatic21]

@@weirdreportt The original Shoddycast TES lore with the previous narrator, was unbeatable though, with custom machinima and voice actors for each lore scene

[@bryanjturner21]

How did they encounter Orcs after landing in Summerset if they didn't exist back then, did the Orcs come back in time with Cyborg Red Diamond?

[@NuddMastersonChinoborous]

Ogres, mistranslation, racism, it literally being a heroic story... Don't take it word for word.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Orges goblins or other goblin kinn

[@gerbenvanegmond4007]

I loved the video, but I had to watch it in parts. Had to do chores and wanted to play Skyrim, so it took me three times of watching a part, but now I'm done and I loved it!

[@half-slav]

I would wager that they obviously weren't the Orsimer as we know them, but rather goblins or a similar species. Perhaps these creatures were referred to as Orcs by the Aldmer, or perhaps that was one of many names given to them. Being that the Orsimer, along with trolls and goblins are referred to as being goblin-kin, and thus believed to be extremely similar in terms of appearance and culture; perhaps there is some truth to my theory.

[@redfallxenos4585]

The Orsimer are elves though.

[@snurgumwurgum8238]

I think the strange feathered people Topal met were actually an early form of the Ayleids themselves. They ayleids are described as being feathered and from a different Kalpa a few times in lore i believe. The most notable Ayleid character "Umaril", is even called, "The UnFeathered." I could be wrong but i don't think i am.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Ayleids weren't a separate race, they were high elves. Umrial was a half Daedra

[@krispybaconvideos]

@@the_dropbear4392 Not High Elves, they were a group of the original elves who settled in Cyroldiil.

[@the_dropbear4392]

@@krispybaconvideos They wer high elves, just like the direnni

[@undeaddragon1158]

@@the_dropbear4392 They aren't high elves.

[@the_dropbear4392]

@@undeaddragon1158 They were. They were a higher kingdom in cyrodil. They weren't a separate race

[@MHWdJ]

I think that... ...old aldmeris is tamriel, just forgotten by generations of aldmer ...khajiit and bosmer descent from elnophey that were given form by azura and Yfre respectively long before Topel. (perhaps they were unable to flee 'the doom of old aldmeris') ...the orcs topel saw where a mere mistranslation (someone made a biased transcribtion of incomplete journals that were written by someone discribing something they saw for the first time) But that is just how I explain inconsistenties away, that may simply be caused by the sheer size of elderscrolls lore (its hard to keep all of it in mind when expanding on it)

[@Bjorn308]

Every race besides Nords, Imperials, Redguards and Argonians: *"WE WUZ ALDMER 'N SHIIIIIIIT!"*

[@crescept9772]

How about Bretons and Khajiits?

[@romanepaul3460]

@@crescept9772 Bretons came from Aldmer and Needs, Khajit were Bosmer.

[@gearandalthefirst7027]

@@romanepaul3460 khajiit were what now

[@romanepaul3460]

@@gearandalthefirst7027 wood elves

[@Dr.RojoMcDelly]

Last time I came this early she laughed at me :/

[@patrickquinn3469]

Unoriginal

[@AI-COMRSPN.s213]

godspeed brother

[@treygreypaws3689]

That Dexter pic though

[@typoanonymous]

Tell her that you're not a preme, but don't got all damn day & got shit to do.

[@chilldude42001]

Noice. Somehow you guys continue to make es lore vids with new stories. Well done.

[@StarlitSeafoam]

I forgot how much I love the Merethic Era. So bizzare and different from modern Tamriel.

[@gearandalthefirst7027]

8:30 due to the distances involved I'm not sure how practical it would be but you could theoretically figure out your exact position on Nirn by using the differences between the implied directions and the waystones... maybe? Like how if you were at the magnetic north pole and had a bunch of compasses, they'd all point in slightly different directions the closer you got

[@gearandalthefirst7027]

this would be way less practical than using the stars but idk, the stars were not always the way they are now iirc

[@SilverFang2789]

Topal is Nirns version of Christopher Columbus

[@wu1ming9shi]

...yeah without all the slavery and rape...

[@SilverFang2789]

@@wu1ming9shi Except the Ayleids (descendants of Topal and the Aldmer) did just that to the Nedes. How do you think the Bretons were made?

[@zekilk]

@@SilverFang2789 Through love, compassion and consent from both parties? 😮

[@wu1ming9shi]

@@SilverFang2789 Oh, right forgot about that bit lol. XD

[@hamzaferoz6162]

More Xiang He or Lief Eriksson

[@Priceluked]

Oh yeah my boy Topal!

[@MagaldiMateus]

Shots a arrow at a dragon, everyone in the ship survives? Nah it was not a dragon.

[@CeleriaRosencroix]

In all honesty, the Khajeeti creation myth does not necessarily have to contradict Topal the Pilot's journey. All one needs to do is operate under the assumption that Old Ehlnofey was in fact Tamriel, and that at some point after the Orcs and Chimer had already come into existence and made their departure, the main group of Aldmer on the continent underwent some sort of major crisis which resulted in voyage en masse away from the continent. At least one of these ships would then have made it to the Summerset Isles, and in the following generations, due to the fact that they had to rebuild their civilization from essentially nothing, these few survivors forgot much of their history, and thus the identity of their home. Given that Topal the Pilot's journal is very fragmentary, there's even a chance that he actually met with Chimer as he was sailing around what would eventually be Morrowind, though if he did not, this could be explained by the fact that said land is quite vast. Perhaps the Chimer would only actually expand to every region of Resdayn over time, and they did not initially colonize the outlying islands included in its present domain. Edit: This would also mean that the Wood Elves already existed at this time, but considering Valenwood lies to the west of Elsweyr, and Topal's journey did not necessarily lead him to sail all along the coast, it is entirely possible that he simply missed Wood Elf lands. This is not to say that the present divide between Elsweyr and Valenwood has always existed, but merely that they might have already separated into East and West populations.

[@shadowpadinc.2058]

I think the bird folk may have been some species of harpy, though why they are so far from a desert is beyond me, most harpies tend to be desert dwelling but the area they were in at the time was a lush jungle, so tropical harpies maybe.

[@histeve09]

Could y'all PLEASE do a video of the guy from the book Knightfall? In Oblivion and the Skyrim Beyond: Bruma mod, you go to Frostfire Glade and he's frozen in ice against a frost atronach. I would love to see a video on him!!

[@andrewjohnson6716]

The possible error here is assuming that the waystones only point in a direction. It is equally likely that they point towards a fixed point on Nirn (like the North Pole or Mecca). Therefore the three different stone would have to be followed so that triangulation can be used after the fact to determine the locations of each destination.

[@georgedorrance3935]

On the topic of Orcs the elves used to call goblins Orcs as a slang term that is most likely what they meant by Orcs at this time the race of Orcs did not exist and as we know the name orc isn't what the race is actually named anyway it is a word obviously loosely throwing around mundis

[@thehickoryhutch5947]

I just want him to find where TES VI is.

[@ghostwarrior3878]

What's bugging me most is what is the opening tune at 0:00 when the video starts. I know I've heard that in one of the Elder Scrolls games but I can't remember which one

[@TeamJella]

It's from oblivion

[@BelindaBotha-gh8vk]

in our world the meaning of life is 42 what is the meaning of life in the Elder Scrolls universe?

[@Dismoeyy]

76

[@Ivanus59]

"Father of Niben", damn, I remember seeing that book in Skyrim, but I don't remember reading it...

[@DrakeFellwing]

Triangulation could have been the point of having 3 different waystones.

[@codyhigson6900]

Great vid man, hey could you remaster the troll slayer or the green pact zealot, my two favourite builds and I'd really appreciate it

[@Wemthoubeat]

Gosh I so forgot skyrim, I've been playing dark souls too much maybe its time to come back haha

[@lorelord2272]

I'd highly recommend it

[@SamDy99]

Or maybe you're too busy capturing jinchuurikis 😅😆😆

[@johab3338]

One of your best videos

[@etinarcadiaego7424]

He shoots a monster and then shoots it again before it hits the water lol what a badass!

[@BelindaBotha-gh8vk]

I have noticed that some Souls are different colours can you show me what they mean?

[@CentralNexusPrime]

Hmmm. Are the maps in error or are the Sommmerset isles on the move? Perhaps the Thalmor are playing the long game and are preparing for when the isles join with the rest of Tamriel. If the slammed into Valenwood we could have some problems if the Valenwood forests spread to Sommerset. Or the Bosmer May take the event as an attack and fight to protect the forest.

[@gdew5168]

What if the Aldmer that sailed northwest from Firsthold sailed to Yokuda and became the Left-handed Elves that Built the Orichalcic Tower?

[@kingbejita9680]

No the left handed elves came through from the last Kalpa with the redguards

[@ogga2busy]

What mod are you using for the hammerfell/yokuda gameplay? Is it a beyond Skyrim beta release?

[@redfallxenos4585]

No

[@brandonguffey5959]

Well what mod is it?@@redfallxenos4585

[@sharqueeshajohnalaneesha2019]

Late but I believe the footage is from ESO

[@andrewearl8926]

23:36 wasnt the white gold tower there at the time lorkan's heart was shot into the sea that became redmoutian? The elves didnt build it.

[@briarrosegael2015]

That's the Adementine or Direnni tower, which is in High Rock.

[@andrewearl8926]

@@briarrosegael2015 Ah, thanks for clearing that up

[@reesetorwad8346]

Maybe Topal had Ebony Arrows of Slaying (5000 points health damage, only 5 known to remain. Pray your target has no Reflect). I always wondered where those came from. Though more likely it was just an above-average sized Cliff Racer.

[@andrewjohnson6716]

If we were to compare these writings to first-hand historical writings of our world, “they made him their lords and gave him their islands” could easily be a conquerers self-serving euphemism for “we conquered than and took their land”. Consider the history of the now extinct Aruwak people and how Columbus’ men wrote about them as a reflection on what the fate of these now extinct bird-people might have been.

[@furkanzomer3982]

Christopal the columnmer

[@kianpfannenstiel]

Where do you get your lore from? UESP?

[@tristanwilson8455]

do you think that thestatues out side ayleid ruins could be a sort of homage to the bird people mentioned? Or they could have been some kind of harpy as seen in daggerfall and ESO?

[@TenacityQ]

I would have to think that the Orsimer came first. The Aldmer/Altmer didn't want this fact known but Topal let it slip. Orsimer are in fact prehistoric Aldmer.

[@Donnirononon]

How could the cats be there if the khajit are descentend from mer?

[@Donnirononon]

Ahh u answered it

[@linkdin4216]

was that riekling helicopterin it

[@mannysmith4100]

Topal reminds me of Chris Columbus. They both made a mistake and ended up changing the course of history for the inhabitants of the planet.

[@AngelRaivan8579-xh4fr]

Given the way they wrote the lore for elderscrolls and the general philosophy of obfusication, i'd argue that this is likely the most accurate depiction of what Tamriel was like pre-elves, Obviously the Khajiit's history is either not what they think it is (possible given how similar it is to the elves as far as creation myths and gods) or something occured in their history that made them forget their earlier history. The bird people had to of had something to do with all of the bird symbology adopted by occupants of the area. The Argonians fit nicely. He had no reason to make it up as this new land is fantastical, we've all walked through it, we know, but the fact that it matches up so well with what is there now, despite various mythology to the contrary, tells me that it would have to be accurate, either that or a series of very lucky guesses with imagination. This should be the basis on which all other myth and lore is balanced to get closer to the actual truth they had in mind when writing it. Amazing writing on their part though.

[@matthewmyers9228]

R u guys gonna do a Valentine's day build? Because skyrim would be a perfect game, imagine a priest of mara. Who obviously uses a bow, restoration, and try to find some heart tip arrow mods, and stuff like that.

[@BelindaBotha-gh8vk]

is there an afterlife for the gods?

[@willthevill5500]

That’s hard to answer since there’s little to no instances of deities dying. Some daedric princes have died but since they’re daedra they are immortal and reform themselves. There’s no instances of Aedra dying to go off of so you can’t discuss that. Lorkhan was the only known divine being to have been killed physically but his spiritual essence remained. He had been physically killed by Trinimac but his soul persisted in his heart which was unkillable

[@erikho6936]

@@willthevill5500 Lygygag? Think that was his name, the Daedric Prince of Order I think. Got ripped apart by the divines

[@Ez-sl5dz]

Erik Ho I think it was jygallag( dunno how to spell) but he was just cursed by the other daedric princes

[@joshuahunt3032]

“Bat-lizard?” Did Topal encounter a dragon or cliff-racer?

[@weirdreportt]

So they did really roam the outskirts of Tamriel before

[@adeptustacticus3112]

A cliff racer sounds more likely than a dragon, a dragon wouldn't go down anywhere near that easy.

[@inaciobarbosa9396]

It was a cliff racer. Dragons came to Tamriel brought by the nords, thousands of years later

[@nathanazar1748]

Is there any correlation between Topal the Pilot and the Elsweyr city of Toval? since you're saying that Topal was also known as Toval

[@NFITC1]

I thought it was because the elves sensed or otherwise divined the location of the Adamantine Tower in what would eventually become High Rock. But then, I never read the in-game books other than to see if they can solve a puzzle or increase a skill. :P

[@robbieberg9452]

that elf would have always found tamriel because thats how he was written

[@sethleoric2598]

My theory is that the Orcs refer to some sort of Beastman

[@wendyforde9303]

Fallout 4 build Ideas Punisher, Jigsaw, Bullseye

[@jackmurray411]

Wendy Forde you want to expand on that?

[@femboiiii4440]

When are the next Fo build coming up?

[@ValensBellator]

Aside from the timing of the moon, was it ever explained WHY khajit are so incredibly polymorphic? Was it the hist who did that?

[@undeaddragon1158]

They believe that Azura taught them how to change forms depending on the moon cycles.

[@Stryker1297]

You're confusing them for argonians. The argonians are the ones with relationships to the Hist. It isn't explicitly explained but like other dude said, it's allegedly the work of Azura's ancient teachings. She's pretty neat

[@oran5518]

The "orcs" could have been reachmen.

[@taskmaster9165]

ah,those were the days,the age of discovery

[@daltonanderson929]

What mod is this desert area from?

[@louispellissier4716]

Why the Hammerfell setting?

[@Zerum69]

Are you ever going to make another build video? Lore is good and all but last build was over 1 month ago and last behind that was 4 months ago... I don't want to wait 3 months at minimum for a build

[@ayman_amsih469]

High elf (altmer) Dark elf (dunmer) Snow elf (ancient falmer) Wood elf (bosmer) Deep elf (dwemer) Sea elf (maormer) Who ths best elf?

[@peryite9979]

ayman ken sea elves are called maormer

[@benyosefdrak2686]

Altmer Obviously

[@thomasrosendahl2783]

Dwemer were the most powerful with crafting armor and weapons + alchemy and Enchanting. Dunmer/Chimer had the strongest magic users and warriors. The other elf races, do not stand a chance.

[@void9399]

@@thomasrosendahl2783 In fact, dunmers are weaker than altmers. The altmers have better weapons and armor than the dunmers and a better naval fleet, and they have the best magicians, like the psijics. Not for nothing did the dunmer reach a pact with Tiber Septim while the only way they beat the Altmer was with the Numidium.

[@peryite9979]

Thomas Rosendahl King Orgnum is the oldest and probably the most powerful wizard on Tamriel even more powerful than Divayth Fyr

[@HippieMafia813]

You guys are great

[@Rodiacreed]

High elves are dope.

[@jeck988]

Aylieids had a thing got feathers that may be why

[@Weeklong_Seagull]

Why would tople call the races he met human lizard, and birdmen before the elves even encountered men? Wouldn't he say mer-like lizards?

[@AG26498]

Fun fact: "Topal" means crippled or bad walking in Turkish.

[@exodist7]

Your assumption about not needing multiple way stones is potentially incorrect. For instance a compass can always tell you which way is north, but it cannot tell you how far north or south you are. If you goal is to go to the magnetic north pole then a compass can do that for you, but if you goal is to go to a specific location other than the north pole then the compass can only help so much. You need to be able to determine how far north or south you are. Latitude and longitude. My interpretation of this lore is that the way-stones show you to the way to a specific point, like a compass, but instead of always pointing north it always points at whatever location the creators decided they wanted the stone to take you. So for instance they may have picked a point on the map (not knowing what was there) and then using magic to enchant the stones to always direct you to that point. This of course poses a problem for the return trip, you would need a second way stone that always point home. But really, navigation is not as easy as "I have an item that always points a specific direction, that means I know where I am" you need the compass, a clock, and angles of the sun/moon/stars etc to get a fix on your location (unless of course "magic" or "GPS Satellites")