I think I need to quit my job and pass the Fully Charged Show presenting reigns over to Chase and Eric! What a truck, what an inspirational approach, what talent and humility!! We had so much fun filming and visiting Merritt and if you're in Vancouver this weekend you can come and meet the Edison team and take a closer look at the truck at Everything Electric Live! Ticket details in description!
@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt4 ай бұрын
The entire Edison Motors' team are extremely grateful for _Fully Charged Show_ investing the time to come and spend a day with us in Merritt! Imogen and George are even more incredible in person than they appear on screen. We had a wonderful day showing off the production prototype, as well as explaining the origins of the idea, the many benefits that the technology provide, and a glimpse into the future of Edison Motors. Words cannot express how appreciative we all are for being featured by a channel we've followed for so long. Talk about humbling.
@Stuart_Johnson_Solutions4 ай бұрын
Definitely not! Two of my favourite KZbin presenters in the same place, this was the video I didn't know I was waiting for! Thanks Imogen and Chase!
@marknelson20734 ай бұрын
🎵Imogen’s a lumberjack and that’s ok! 🎶
@rod444rod4 ай бұрын
They're typical Canadian inventors, eh? Making something great but not an ounce of pretension or ego. You go, guys, show the world how to do it the Canadian way!
@fullychargedshow4 ай бұрын
Thank you!! You also win the prize for providing some top tier lunch!
@EdisonMotors4 ай бұрын
Thanks for coming out to visit
@Phuc_Yhou4 ай бұрын
I don't think they gave you enough air time, after watching your euro trip and the Scania project collab you deserved more than a 10 minute gloss over.
@Ed.R4 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your approach to building these trucks. Keep up the good work 👍👍
@RPRosen-ki2fk4 ай бұрын
I'm hoping you can grow this into becoming a major player, wishing you guys the BEST OF SUCCESS.
@firefox396934 ай бұрын
Why don't you guys sign a deal with Trailer Dynamics or Range Energy to take advantage of their battery-integrated semi-trailer IP? Instead of using a diesel generator which, yes, I know is better than a normal diesel truck. Why not spread the load of the battery pack from the tractor to the trailer? Also, with an electric trailer with electric motors, it improves traction on loose or slippery surfaces, it makes it easier to go up steep grades, and faster and better at exploiting gaps in traffic.
@dalel36084 ай бұрын
@@firefox39693 Because that would cut into the payload mass; Edison's truck is actually lighter than traditional logging trucks while achieving the majority EV-drive goal.
@nooneyouknow70364 ай бұрын
As a trucker, I'm very impressed and excited about the ethos of this company. Simplistic design, using widely-available, off-the-shelf parts. Trucks used to be made this way. You could rebuild nearly every component yourself, in the field, for minimal costs and replace most parts with other than original, with what was most available. Plastic parts were used only where they were the best choice, not because they were a cheaper choice for the OEM.
@jeffreyquinn38204 ай бұрын
I've never driven truck myself, but I've done accounting for a lot of truckers over the years. You really need to be able to fix stuff, if not yourself, at least close to where things break down. None of this send it back to the factory $#!+.
@inspiringengineer4 ай бұрын
DONT under any curcunstances let Apple build trucks! :D :D :D
@inspiringengineer4 ай бұрын
OR John Deere for that matter! :D :D
@jeffreyquinn38204 ай бұрын
@@inspiringengineer I remember when John Deere tried telling Canadian farmers they didn't actually own their tractors, but were leasing the intellectual property.
@inspiringengineer4 ай бұрын
@@jeffreyquinn3820 LOL! :D :D
@tysoncarswell49174 ай бұрын
Really impressed by CTO Eric Little and his explanations. As a BC resident, I wish for nothing but success and to see Edison trucks on the logging roads.
@a1258004 ай бұрын
hard agree lets hope BC is good to them
@cameronmacdonald65254 ай бұрын
Even as a resident of Red Deer Alberta I hope for nothing but the best for these guys. Hopefully I can work for them one day as everyone here in Alberta is very against even the idea of a battery. Even if it would make their lives easier and cheaper.
@riverratt86264 ай бұрын
@@cameronmacdonald6525 Hey that's not totally true, I live Red Deer County, I work in the Oil Patch and I think there is a place for electric vehicles, it's the southern city slickers that somehow think we can have all vehicles electric is what pisses us off. People need to pull their head out of there ass, and realize that we will need fossil fuels to run larger vehicles and vehicles in rural areas for many years to come.
@thesoundsmith4 ай бұрын
"I'll call it Edison Motors 'cause we're stealin' Tesla's idea..." LOVE it...
@smokindauberdoo42084 ай бұрын
elon SUCKS
@Sal36004 ай бұрын
@@smokindauberdoo4208mad tears🤭💩
@DiP20114 ай бұрын
@Michael-pi8ps That's not what they mean by this. There is a story that Thomas Edison stole work from Nikola Tesla (what was not really the case). So it's a joke that they're doing the same now.
@joesutherland2254 ай бұрын
Turnabout being Fairplay so did I,afterall Edison stole tesla's technology
@smokindauberdoo42084 ай бұрын
@@joesutherland225 yup
@starwarsnerd954 ай бұрын
one thing the video didn't mention about the generator is that because its not connected to the driveline mechanically it can always run at maximum efficiency dignificantly reducing the lifetime emissions and wear on that engine. also the engines can be significantly smaller than they would need to be on a pure diesel truck.
@Darstrom4 ай бұрын
Yes!
@cameronmacdonald65254 ай бұрын
Yeah the engine is only a 7 litre. That's less than half the size of most truck engines.
@sampik20034 ай бұрын
I was looking for that comment! Electric motors have a much better torque curve across different speed, so I make sense to use it with the driveline! And a diesel engine running unstressed, at peak efficiency to feed of the batteries, that is easily serviceable and keeps the electric motors running, taking care of the batteries deficiency, which let's be honest is the reason electric vehicules haven't been popular until lately! 😊
@joyia.13 ай бұрын
I am from Pakistan. I found the work of Edison Motors when I was doing my internship for Pakistan Railways in an overhaul workshop. I learnt the operation of diesel locomotives and was fascinated by that. However, the generators, powered by an engine, instantly transmit the electricity to multiple drive axles.
@wild_lee_coyote4 ай бұрын
Didn’t even touch on the fact that because of the power of the generator, and Edison Truck can be used as an emergency power source. Power goes out and you can run your house, emergency services, even help power a town if you have enough of them. The ability to run a welder, cement mixer, recharge a dead Tesla on the side of a road is going to be game changing. Think of all the trucks at rest stops that have to keep the engine running or fire up an auxiliary generator while they are sleeping, now silent because of the batteries. It makes so much sense.
@Pottery4Life4 ай бұрын
Agreed. V2L and V2V would be killer for these machines.
@PiDsPagePrototypes4 ай бұрын
Touching on the noise further, When the truck comes through town in EV-only mode, there's a lot less noise to disturb people. When they go past on the freeway in the middle of the night and the smaller generator is making less noise then a full sized Diesel powertrain, the people with homes backing on to the freeway will be happier, or still sleeping. With the right set-up, I don't think it's unrealistic to consider the possibility that a truck with a good size battery, generator, regular sized fuel tanks, and full self drive, could make a Coast-to-Coast run across Canada, the US, or Australia, without needing to make a single stop.
@aae424 ай бұрын
@@PiDsPagePrototypes from loud jake brakes wasting energy to silent regen re-harnessing it
@ryanthompson37374 ай бұрын
There's also the added benefit that BC defines the generator as a portable which means it qualifies for tax-free fuel instead of the usual fuel we usually have to buy.
@LaPapaMollido4 ай бұрын
@@ryanthompson3737 I can forsee that being a short lived benefit though, especially once these trucks become commercially available. Most fuel tax goes to roadway maintenance, not to emissions offsets. And class 8 trucks do much more damage to the road day-to-day than any other type of road going vehicle which incentivises closing the loophole.
@leftcoaster674 ай бұрын
I wish Edison all the success in the world. Best of all they are passionate, and love their jobs. That's awesome.
@TheBeingReal4 ай бұрын
Fun to watch Edison over the last few years. Great win to get this exposure. As an engineer: what is really fun is they keep evolving the design to improve it.
@aureliancozma2514 ай бұрын
Very cool idea to turn old trucks into trucks full of technology on batteries, congratulations to the company Edison and bravo Fully Charge for the video
@clivestainlesssteelwomble76654 ай бұрын
Embedded energy and carbon as well as materials and manufacturing hours in existing technology is a very real issue. If these guys could also team up with Dr Wu of Invent wood's Metelwood They could use local sourced and manufactured Greener materials in building their vehicles. It's superior to metal in many ways. Check back for a 1984 UK project called Africar a car for Africa .. and that was traditional marine ply and epoxy monocoques bodywork. Using metal wood would insulate..cut harmonic vibrations ..it's estimated as being 80yr environmentally resistant without further protection and fire resistant. ..it's actually carbon negative and uses cheap rapid growth timber 🪵 .. they can even produce a transparent Glazing replacement from wood. 🧙🏻♂️
@katieandkevinsears77244 ай бұрын
Those weren't full of technology. They were very simplistic which is a part of their charm in my book. Tesla and all the other mainstream EV companies throw as many shiny things in front of their customers to try to dazzle them.
@stickynorth4 ай бұрын
This is one of those "only in Canada" stories which makes it so freakin' cool. Upcycling old trucks using modern tech and putting them to work TODAY while everyone else waits for Tesla to MAYBE one day produce a product that may or may not work for the applications required here... And making sure simplicity and ease of repair is top of mind, which is the antithesis of modern vehicle engineering. Believe me, I have to do some real gymnastics just to get the battery out of my Smart Fortwo cdi after I bricked it over a long winter...
@rklauco4 ай бұрын
This is one of the few instances where hybrid makes real sense - end of nowhere, no charging available, perfectly makes sense.
@WanderingCactus4 ай бұрын
Honestly as a lover of electric vehicles, even I have to admit that the idea of a battery electric semi doesn't sound real good, too heavy, too slow to charge, how do you even fast charge something that big? As far as making these greener, I wonder if'n @EdisonMotors will change what they run on for fuel in the future, after all, Otto Von Diesel demonstrated his engine on peanut oil, so they're definitely not limited to diesel.
@thiefrules4 ай бұрын
@@WanderingCactus to solve the charging issue, the diesel engine can run to power up a generator to recharge as you drive, and it shuts off when you reach the desired battery level. And in the logging roads they plan to run Topsy on, they will use regenerative breaking to recharge the batteries to full while coming down the mountain. So a full charge + diesel generator powers the truck going up the mountain, then the brakes recharge the truck going down. As for fuel, I’m sure the aftermarket scene will come up with a mod to run the engines on used cooking oil lol
@pin653714 ай бұрын
@@thiefrules yah there is really no way for them to shut down to charge the batteries so this onboard generator idea makes the most sense. Lets also be realistic here. They are driving through forests so even if there is a carbon footprint the trees will use most of that CO2. People need to have realistic goals when it comes to lowering emissions. There are going to be "easy" solutions and then there are going to be more difficult issues. If companies like Edison can help lower the emissions for the more difficult situations then that is a win. I'm also not sure that using something like peanut oil would be ideal. Growing peanuts also requires farm equipment that is most likely uses diesel. It requires a lot of water. Then it requires energy to process the peanut oil. Then it most likely gets transported by ship. Meanwhile the diesel for those trucks in BC comes from Alberta where it goes through a pipeline, then onto a train and then a semi that drives it from the train to the card lock. I bet the carbon footprint is lower than using peanut oil when you factor in the supply chain. And no they arent going to run trucks off used peanut oil. If you took all the used cooking oil from the lower mainland (Vancouver) you'd maybe get enough to run a few trucks each day in the logging industry. Maybe hydrogen is a possibility but first you need to build that supply chain which ends up being difficult and expensive. Maybe one day that happens but I think if Edison can start selling lots of these trucks we should just take it as a win. Edit: One other thing I was look at would be hybrid garbage trucks. I looked it up. They make like 2 mpg due to being stop and go. Fully electric might work but in some cases that could be difficult as well depending how far they have to drive to drop off garbage. If they put a large enough battery to run half the day just on battery they could have a smaller generator that charges when they are going to and from the dump. That stop and go for a garbage truck would be great for electric and then the half an hour or so where they are driving at higher speeds for a longer stretch the generator would be very efficient. It could also potentially save some costs if the yard where the trucks stay overnight they didnt have to put in a really fast charge. A smaller battery would mean even 22 KW would be enough to charge the battery overnight. They would only be running the generator for an hour or two per day. Once a year they do an oil change on the generator and that would be good to go. It also would be much cheaper to replace the batteries after a few years of use vs a really large battery pack that would be required if they wanted a full day of use.
@coreydavis68684 ай бұрын
@@WanderingCactus they have said they have it set up where you can have the generator part run on any generator type that you can fit in the front bit. like in some of their early testing videos they fried something and ran it on a gas powered generator strapped on the back of the truck
@coreydavis68684 ай бұрын
they have talked about the truck being fairly generator type angnotic but one thing about the diesel gen it it should burn cleaner than a classic engine because it can be pinned to the most optimal RPM because it itself is not having to drive the drivetrain
@hunterbaas88504 ай бұрын
THIS IS A REAL COMPANY PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE NOTES
@Na808Koa4 ай бұрын
Love this story, particularly that they are not only just building new trucks but repurposing existing ones, great job Edison Motors.
@artisan0024 ай бұрын
I'm not involved in trucking, electrification, or logging. But, I absolutely love what they're doing at Edison. I'm desperately hoping to see them do some kind of emergency services vehicle. It seems like a full blown fire truck would make sense. Maybe even an airport crash truck.
@BLKMGK43 ай бұрын
Keep an eye on DeBoss - they're working with Edison to do retrofit hybrid for large working pickups, it's been fun to watch
@gormauslander4 ай бұрын
It's important to note that even with the generator running it's more efficient, which is better for the environment and the owners wallet. The engine is smaller and always runs at peak rpm.
@raphiseth69424 ай бұрын
They say it themselves: in certain applications, highway truck efficiency is hard to beat because they don't have to convert
@briankuhl93144 ай бұрын
Yes, despite the widely publicised pickup truck that drove across america in the 1970s with a electric motor, and lawn mower engine in the back, the difference between a good hybrid and bad is still not well understood.
@dnomyarnostaw4 ай бұрын
@@raphiseth6942 In terms of power efficiency, that may be true. But if you add regeneration downhill, driver comfort, low speed torque to solve low speed problems, its going to be a really close competition.
@ProjectExMachina4 ай бұрын
They will use the the strongest and largest engine that Scania provides but it will be more efficient and effective than a smaller engine
@Neojhun2 ай бұрын
Regenerative Braking is where is makes massive gains in efficiency.
@paulc67664 ай бұрын
Janus Electric are doing the same thing in Australia. There are so many trucks that this could be done all over the world.
@briankuhl93144 ай бұрын
And as Canadian I asked myself, why isn't anyone doing that here, and well now there is. Just need them to expand to the rest of Canada 😉
@emceeboogieboots16084 ай бұрын
I was trying to remember the Aussie company doing this. They were in Qld? And did I see them on Fully Charged as well🤔
@trevorberridge60794 ай бұрын
You took the words out of my mouth. And the trucks they convert in Australia are so massive that they aren't even legal on European roads. If even quarry trucks can be electrified then there is no limit.
@MrSlicks884 ай бұрын
Calling the company Edison, sounds like a bright idea 💡
@leftcoaster674 ай бұрын
Edison vs. Tesla round 2?
@robhills26134 ай бұрын
It seems: In 1802, the English chemist and inventor Humphry Davy invented the first electric light. In 1850 an English physicist named Joseph Wilson Swan created a “light bulb”. On July 24, 1874 a Canadian patent was filed by a Toronto medical electrician named Henry Woodward and a colleague Mathew Evans, but were unsuccessful in commercializing their lamp. They eventually sold their patent to Edison in 1879.
@tomm4874 ай бұрын
...i see what you did there😁
@alphonsotate29824 ай бұрын
@@leftcoaster67 Edison win it got a generator
@ScrapKing734 ай бұрын
Anyone who wants to know the difference between how Canadians and Americans sound should be shown this video. These are some of the most Canadian-sounding people I've ever heard!
@alskjflaksjdflakjdf4 ай бұрын
They're east coasters, we get a lot of them out west. Their accent makes my teeth itch sometimes but you'll have a hard time finding people nicer than them. It almost feels like a new yorker accent.
@savagegamez16744 ай бұрын
They sound the same to me
@carboncomplex4 ай бұрын
There is more than one Canadian accent - like there is more than one American accent
@alskjflaksjdflakjdf4 ай бұрын
@@redneckcoder hahahahah, wow was I wrong!
@Nemod704 ай бұрын
There's at least 4 distinct accents in Nova Scotia alone.
@frantisekrichter18234 ай бұрын
Unlike the mining trucks when hauling down the hill with 40tonne cargo they recuperate almost enough to go back up empty. I love the efficiency
@WarrenPostma4 ай бұрын
At the scale they're doing it, their project trucks cost probably 3x to 5x what their production vehicles would cost.
@samjubilee65934 ай бұрын
@@WarrenPostma I'm suuurrree you know what yer talkin' about - fer certain !
@blahorgaslisk77634 ай бұрын
@@samjubilee6593 They are building what? Eight trucks in a year? That means they are buying just about everything at single part price, no large scale economics at work here. So they will not be cheap to build. Compare this to to large scale manufacturers like MAN, Scania or whoever you want to talk about. Scania manufactures their own engines, powertrains and just about everything they can, This means they have a much lower overhead on the price of those parts, and when buying from third party they shift huge volumes instead on one, two or even eight sets at a time. Those volumes bring down the costs a lot. Then there are the actual manufacturing. They have factories built to their specs, machinery making things easier to handle and people who works on this every day and has learned hoe to do it fast and efficiently. It all brings down the manufacturing costs. Also every truck made is close to identical when looking at cable harness and all that. So it's easier to make a few hundred or a thousand trucks a year than eight of them. Currently Edison is basically making prototypes. Each truck they make is an improvement on the previous. This cost time and time is money. I don't know if they are twice, three times, or five times as expensive to make as they would be if they were an actual production run, but they are a lot more expensive, there's no doubt about that.
@samjubilee65934 ай бұрын
@@blahorgaslisk7763 When mass producing, assembly line, etc., there is a huge cost in initial tooling, buildings, maintaining complex tooling & machines such as cnc machines, robots, robotic welders, casting/forging, fiberglass/kevlar layup & curing, large buildings, etc. I suspect that if they work smartly, they can sell their trucks at a competetive price little more, or even equal to, the large manufacturers. They've already built their prototype (Topsy) and worked out the kinks in the drivetrain and other problems. They should only improve from here on. When I say they should be competetive, that's assuming that trucks they build will be custom in many cases; Edison can likely provide better prices, and definitely a better product, for many of those niche market customized trucks, imho.
@mrmotofy4 ай бұрын
@@blahorgaslisk7763 Sure but they all started the same way...small building individually then when they have enough out there...they can begin to scale up and start making money. It appears you have NO idea how business works. All those truck manufacturers you listed have been in business for 50+ years...of course they will be more established and capable than a company with maybe 2yrs in on a completely new idea. The advantage they have is they can scale WAY faster than any of those other companies who only manufacture their trucks. Edison can build the main components then ship to shops all over the world for the actual licensed install. It's a way better model.
@ChrisBigBad4 ай бұрын
"We can do 9c discharge - obviously we won't push it that hard" Did you see the small wink or sparkle in his eyes? They ARE going to push it that hard, at least sometimes ^^
@gormauslander4 ай бұрын
The crossover that was inevitable yet took surprisingly long. Also funny because I'm subscribed to both so this was just another "oh Chace has another video" lol
@joezolo99864 ай бұрын
Edison motors can convert any vehicle with a solid rear axle. Edison motors has created a network of existing diesel mechanics in the US and Canada, to convert existing vehicles. If there is a demand in the UK, I'm sure, Edison Motors can form a network in the UK as well.
@peter_meyer3 ай бұрын
There's plenty of electric trucks in Europe already. All the big manufacturers offer e-trucks up to 800kw.
@bikecommuter244 ай бұрын
love it, 😄 Im retired from being a mechanic and later media work so I understand what is involved, but to see some down to earth guys doing this sort of thing, these guys are what the young people say are fire 🔥👍
@christopherguy12174 ай бұрын
I love their practical approach to the truck. Repairability and off the shelf components means lower costs and greater sustainability. If trucks are designed to last 50 years we lower carbon emissions and lower lifetime costs.
@Zirrad14 ай бұрын
Thanks for helping to spread the word about Edison!
@ripvanstinkle4 ай бұрын
Imogen is a great host! Never miss one of her videos.
@dianewallace60644 ай бұрын
Imogen is adorable and smart.
@jaythemusicman8014 ай бұрын
I had been waiting for fully charged to feature Edison. It is so cool to see truck manufacturing return to Canada
@avidwatcher35884 ай бұрын
I love the restomod aspect of this! Converting older vehicles to hybrid electric with off the shelf parts is a great way to reduce and reuse!
@NoSenatorson3 күн бұрын
Those are some cool trucks. It is modern but old school at the same time. Best of both new and proven tech.
@nominalvelocity4 ай бұрын
I like that it actually looks like a truck too.
@miskatonic62104 ай бұрын
It looks like a garage build from some hobbyists. Only people without any clue about the topic will be fooled by this.
@BLET_55artem554 ай бұрын
@@miskatonic6210It's closer to the "classic" trucks than anything Tesla ever built. Also, stay mad
@amandafaulks25154 ай бұрын
miskatonic tell me you've never seen logging trucks or mining trucks without telling me you've never seen em...🤦🏼♀️
@altoso12 ай бұрын
@@miskatonic6210 Its a logging truck, it's not one of those rainbow tesla semis you like so much
@Jeff-lt9xrАй бұрын
@@miskatonic6210 youre right. only people who don’t understand the topic would be fooled by your ret&rded comment.
@Jaw0lf4 ай бұрын
I loved their down to earth approach, and calling themselves Edison Motors is a great pun. Loved Imogens presentation, thank you!
@tideypods48084 ай бұрын
7:52 that little wink man I love this guy 😂♥
@BenjaminVestergaard4 ай бұрын
EdisonMotors' got the right spirit. Do what's possible today, but make it easy to upgrade and modify in the future.
@coniow4 ай бұрын
I have been following Edison Motors since they appeared at the Fully Charged event last year, as I am sure have many others. Good that you have got to visit to see the progress! Pity you didn't get to take Topsy for a spin around the yard :-(.
@coreydavis68684 ай бұрын
i saw a video where it towed this pickup-sherman hybrid like it was nothing its kinda insane how strong they are
@proximaone13504 ай бұрын
So great to see, the diesel generator setup is still a huge improvement emissions wise, compared to straight diesels. As battery density improves so will emissions. The trucks look bad ass and I wish them all the best for the future.
@HiagoSN4 ай бұрын
The collab we've all been waiting for!
@doogandoggin25714 ай бұрын
I'm finding myself drawn more and more to electric. It's just much more efficient for my uses. I'm glad you are in on the ground level. The technology is only growing and there will be ample room for innovators like yourself. Truly, I also appreciate your assertive attitude toward having to wait. We are all getting older. Some of us want that time.
@ArildBrudeli4 ай бұрын
Great work Eddison Motor's. Have been following your work for a long time. I you show why Hybrids are important. we need the heavy haul and long haul trucks to plug in and run hybrid. It is lower cost to get rolling. Big savings for the owner/drivers and big Co2 reductions. A win,win win situations. You should be part of the Hybrid Alliance that try to help getting hybrids into the truck market. Keep up the good work
@paulkurianth7783 ай бұрын
Born of frustration.. mother of many inventions.. 😄 I hope they succeed 👍
@donscott17644 ай бұрын
Saw these guys at the last show in Vancouver and really enjoyed them. Was in Merritt this summer (Imogen did you stay at the old Merritt Hotel downtown for a real Merritt experience?) and was surprised that next to no one I spoke with were aware of Edison Motors. Great work guys and so pleased you're moving into the next stage and actually building the trucks and have more variants on order. Great Canadian know how and ingenuity. All the best!!!
@Apullensg1Ай бұрын
Really cool! Thanks for sharing! Good luck!
@robertroberts52184 ай бұрын
Good job Eric. Your on screen time has come a long way since the beginning of Edison. Much more relaxed with flowing conversation. Just keep at it. You really do need to share more of your perspective and tasks.
@iamconio4 ай бұрын
have been watching Edisons videos and waiting to see how long before Fully charged rocked up !
@drewcipher8964 ай бұрын
Big fan of electric drivetrains in gas vehicles. It made sense in the Chevy Volt, it made sense in diesel trains, and it makes sense in semis.
@PistonAvatarGuy4 ай бұрын
It wouldn't work well in long-haul semi trucks.
@dnomyarnostaw4 ай бұрын
@@PistonAvatarGuy I'm sure it will, Janus is doing it in Australia, with swappable batteries on long, high traffic routes. Stopping pollution in residential areas is one benefit, regeneration going down hills is something Diesels cannot do, and driver comfort. Just been watching long haul trucking through the dreadful desert roads, and the instant torque, controllable wheel drive of a hybrid truck, would make so much sense.
@PistonAvatarGuy4 ай бұрын
@@dnomyarnostaw No, bud, that's just a completely incorrect assessment of what's happening and of what I was saying. You seem to think that I'm trying to say that electric motors can't haul heavy loads, but that's not what I said. Those trucks in Australia are not long haul trucks, they would need to have battery swap stations everywhere in order to be viable, and that's just never going to happen. You'd essentially need to buy multiple sets of batteries for every truck to make that work, and the cost of batteries being what it is would make that a completely impractical solution. As for the Edison truck, the inefficiency of the series hybrid drivetrain would be the problem, as it would result in the truck burning more diesel than a pure ICE truck. They still haven't hauled an actual load in any sort of real world testing and one has to wonder why.
@SoI_Badguy4 ай бұрын
@PistonAvatarGuy I don't get why you went from saying "wouldn't be perfect for long haul highway trucks" to trying to insinuate that Edison is trying to run a scam or something. Topsy is an entirely new vehicle from a new manufacturer with a lot of first-time technology for the role, and is expected to be hauling around the weight of a couple of buildings on public roads (in part). Yeah there's a lot of testing if you want to do that legally and also not kill somebody.
@MichaelArtelle4 ай бұрын
@@PistonAvatarGuy The original intention for their truck is for vocational use. As in tool trucks, wreckers, service vehicles, garbage (bin) trucks, etc. Not as a highway hauler, they even admitted in one of their videos that they knew their truck wasn't the best thing for long haul, hence why they're targeting short haul/vocational segment of the market where their vehicle makes sense.
@adamcarnegie56602 ай бұрын
Fantastic! What a pleasure to see people taking action! 😃
@johnsmedley88434 ай бұрын
Another brilliant video. Those young Canadians are amazing. Very clever.
@BLKMGK43 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see what DeBoss comes up with these guys in the way of a hybrid pickup truck retrofit!
@johanarnfinnlvold59894 ай бұрын
This is basically "dieselpunk"!
@TsunamiKitten2 ай бұрын
The humility and the sensibility of this team are inspiring. Other companies should take note.
@LibertyOrD___h18 күн бұрын
Blue collar Canadians from the bush…… not all humans are equal that’s for sure
@leoyoung75474 ай бұрын
I lived in Merritt for a while. Quite a cute little town and the scenery is simply stunning.
@HermannKerr4 ай бұрын
Wow, I didn't know about Edison which is just down a backroad from where I live.
@paddington16702 ай бұрын
i hope you had a good time in BC!
@ok-alarm4 ай бұрын
good to see edison motors on your show 👌👌
@ehta24134 ай бұрын
These guys are definitely doing it right. Also I didn't know they have 8 trucks in the pipeline already :D
@RPRosen-ki2fk4 ай бұрын
Love their company's name and slogan, it's CLEVER on ... two totally different levels.
@HorizonimagingCoUkPhotography4 ай бұрын
What a great story and company, love it! 👍🏻 Love Imogen’s presenting style too, keep it up IB! 👏🏻😎
@AWildBard4 ай бұрын
Excellent. Those trucks do look tough.
@sammaimas1554 ай бұрын
Makes the Tesla Semi look like a Girly Boy...
@SoI_Badguy4 ай бұрын
Half inch thick frame rails btw. Most logging trucks use welded double 3/8ths, which is weaker and prone to rusting.
@brocluno014 ай бұрын
Good episode. Need to follow this as it matures. Prolly the best way forward for much of the non-over-the-road (non-long-haul) trucks. We have a bazillion used cabs and chassis sitting in yards all over North America. This is so much better than all new construction for many applications. Keep that old VIN and the requirements of the era of the chassis. Add Tier III hybrid generators and you can go to almost every job site out there 😀
@jeffreyquinn38204 ай бұрын
So Edison trucks are manufactured next to Nicola, BC. Take that, Tesla!
@nicks75083 ай бұрын
Thank you for your coverage on this topic! Most manufacturers are worried about _selling_ vehicles. These guys are focused on building solid vehicles.
@thorbjrnhellehaven57664 ай бұрын
I ❤ it ! We need more heavy duty electrified vehicles, to prove the technology to the naysayers!
@martythemartian994 ай бұрын
It is amazing to see someone designing a truck with the running costs for the customer more prominent in mind, rather than the ongoing profit from specialised maintenance for the company that built the thing. Looking at you Tesla.
@zacharyleonard94134 ай бұрын
the huge advantage of a generator over a diesel engine is the ability to use a much smaller, more efficient engine. A generator only needs to run at exactly it's maximum efficiency while a normal truck engine needs to deal with changes in RPM. A generator never has to idle.
@benkendall74894 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering these guys, they’re so overlooked and their approach to this is top notch
@rickypeacock6594 ай бұрын
👍 it's great to hear that this type of activity is being successful.
@andersonnettleship84513 күн бұрын
It’s just mind boggling how some people appear to actually oppose the idea of an Electric Semi with its own onboard Diesel Generator. They won’t acknowledge the roughly 50% reduction of harmful emissions along with the increased efficiency because (OMG!) the truck still burns fuel. The applications for Edison Motors Technology are not limited to trucks and pickups, it could easily be adapted for use in Heavy Equipment, Large Agricultural Equipment and more! Later on the Diesel Engine and Generator could be replaced with an appropriately sized Microturbine Generator (MTG) which would lower the emissions, maintance, size and weight (currently there are many different MTGs in production but the cost needs to come down to make the option affordable, Capstone Green Energy has designed a MTG for truck use
@MikeH-sg2ue4 ай бұрын
These logging trucks aren’t designed to go fast! They’re designed to go hard!
@leftcoaster674 ай бұрын
Tesla, Ford, Rivian, Chevy are struggling for consumer trucks to haul and not kill the range. How is a logging truck going to work? Ahh they are hybrids. Makes way more sense.
@martythemartian994 ай бұрын
130kph/80mph. That is plenty fast enough for any road vehicle.😳
@leftcoaster674 ай бұрын
@@martythemartian99 it’s a logging truck. Not a formula 1 car.
@martythemartian994 ай бұрын
@@leftcoaster67 Yeah... and your point is? The original comment was the truck was not designed to go fast, making it sound like it is slow. But the top speed mentioned is pretty quick, and I was not saying it needs to be quicker.
@hughmarcus14 ай бұрын
You’ve never been on Highway one in Canada then. 😉
@EnGammalAmazon3 ай бұрын
Great video. I am not surprised to see these trucks coming out of B.C. I've spent a lot of time up there and they are great and creative people.
@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος4 ай бұрын
Cool! Edison on this channel 👍
@charleswillcock32354 ай бұрын
This is your best interview. Excellent that more and more companies are giving electric a go.
@Hebdomad74 ай бұрын
This should be the standard of trucks and machinery.
@witness10134 ай бұрын
Wow - incredibly well done episode!
@Bigrignohio4 ай бұрын
Fixed speed generators are VERY efficient compared to standard IC drivetrains.
@cyclesingsleep4 ай бұрын
...beautiful presentation, filming and editing! Go, Edison, Go!!! : )
@devil2jz5004 ай бұрын
Diesel Electric = Locomotive That’s the future.
@jermainec24623 ай бұрын
And the past 😂😂...
@BeautifulPlanet-blue4 ай бұрын
LOVE THIS, American style electric truck.
@shirajulislam32154 ай бұрын
deboss garage with massive grin😊 it took fully charged a while to find edison ....well done fully charged
@keithnoneya4 ай бұрын
I love that they are able to charge themselves, meaning they are Hybrids. This seems to be the best of both worlds when it comes to ICE/EV's. Also the ability of the driver or local mechanic to repair the vehicle is paramount in cost savings. Short hauls and trips is probably going to be this trucks best advantage for any company. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
@arthurderera15894 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see the hybrid 770 Scania V8 truck
@DustyKorpse3 ай бұрын
So glad you covered these guys 👍🏻
@elftax4 ай бұрын
The genius of the truck’s simplicity is exactly what Tesla did prior to Musks influence, the founders of Tesla designed the original Roadster and Model S using off the shelf proven tech.
@bob8084 ай бұрын
Great to see you caught up with Edison Motors!
@coachpotato73534 ай бұрын
This is an awesome business startup right there, showing you don't need an eccentric ahole billionaire or a crooked corporation with government clout to change the industry! Best of luck to these wholesome guys!
@jradplowman4 ай бұрын
Good on ya! Fellow British Columbian here, super stoked this is just down the road from me 😊
@louisjov4 ай бұрын
It blows my mind that the design of the chevy volt, or this truck, (or diesel electric trains from 100 years ago), wasn't the design for hybrid vehicles from tbe beginning.
@callsignapollo_4 ай бұрын
Lots of people have trust issues with an all-electric drivetrain because of an inherent distrust of electrical over mechanical components. I agree this is how we should've been doing it all along though. The days of "die-by-wire" are long gone, and we've had 80+ years of diesel-electric locomotives to prove that it works. I had genuinely considered a chevy volt when used-car shopping, but couldnt find any local to me, and i wouldnt be able to take advantage of the plug-in hybrid because i didnt live somewhere i could have a charger.
@wellsteadfamilytv96873 ай бұрын
Love this - got fed up waiting so got on and did it themselves! Love the retro conversion side of the business too
@vincentgrinn26654 ай бұрын
cant wait till edison motors gets big enough that we start seeing some down in australia some mines have started running 350ton rated b-quins(thats 5 trailers), id love to see edison trucks doing that kind of work
@happydaydreamer14 ай бұрын
Great video. Love the way the developers use an open-minded research strategy.
@Aghinari4 ай бұрын
we've been running a Scania fully electric lumber truck for years at my work🤔
@SoI_Badguy4 ай бұрын
If you don't need as heavy duty of work, the generator is a drop-in. Edison will also be selling purely EV trucks with batteries in place of the generator.
@svenhodaka91453 ай бұрын
A shout out to these Canadians and their ideas. 👋👍
@MichaelSmith-px1ev4 ай бұрын
Someone need to invest in these guys to increase production
@pin653714 ай бұрын
They have been offered but I think they are turning down investments. I actually respect them more for that. Work at a pace where they can grow without making sacrifices. As soon as they take money they will need to find ways to give those investors a return on their investments. One thing they are doing is they are doing the prototyping. Then they will be working with smaller shops to do the work tp build the trucks for the customers. Ideally they want to train the companies they are selling to or the companies doing the work on the trucks the companies they are selling to. I work in mining. If they did retrofits for us they would just need to do one retrofit on site with the mechanics. After that those mechanics will make it work. Those mechanics have a very similar mentality as the guys at Edison. They have a problem and they figure out a solution and make it work. In some cases engineering approval might be required but half the time its just them figuring it out on their own, solving the problem and then give the engineers a report. I've seen mechanics do repairs on the side of the road replacing parts that weigh thousands of lbs. Depending what happened they are pulling out cutting torches to cut stuff out, then replacing a part and then welding stuff back in all while standing on pallets so they arent directly in the foot of mud where the truck is sitting. I live in a city and it actually sorta annoys me how long anything takes to get done. There are just a million roadblocks and people that think too highly of themselves needing to make a decision that it just slows things down. The people doing the work know how to fix things. They just get held up by other people that wont let them do what needs to be done even if that is the right and safe way to do things.
@sammaimas1554 ай бұрын
They have only to increase production and they will soon outsell the tesla semi...
@BenjaminHamilton-cg9ln4 ай бұрын
@@pin65371 As the guy on those pallets most of the day, Its not stuck if it liquid.
@kimchiman10004 ай бұрын
This is an excellent piece! Thank you from an Edison Motors fan.
@alastairhatt3604 ай бұрын
Don’t think the Tesla semi was going to be designed for this purpose anyway. So waiting for them to release the semi was not really going to be an option. This is a different kind of beast and built for rugged roads and harsher environment. Well done though and great to see others taking up the electric future. 👍🇦🇺
@suzaynnschick1584 ай бұрын
This is the attitude we need!
@victorseal90474 ай бұрын
A couple of feet on the ground bright guy. Excellent presentation.😅
@StewBrew-y7t3 ай бұрын
I absolutely luv that they reusing trucks from the 40s ❤
@alexjeffs70924 ай бұрын
I love Edison motors but as they say prototypes are easy. Manufacturing is hard . Both of them have their place in the market but I wouldn’t call them direct competitors with the Tesla semi.
@alexwalker84224 ай бұрын
Consider this a vote for more views, I highly value this idea.
@paulc67664 ай бұрын
The batteries are prismatic batteries. He said pouch batteries which are the type that are susceptible to thermal runaway.
@scotteladd25374 ай бұрын
I came to comment on the same thing. I caught that, as well.