The New Kia Niro EV Is Still The King Of Value For Money

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@rickybryan1759
@rickybryan1759 2 жыл бұрын
I still shake my head as to how this show has basically replaced the old Top Gear as my go to car show and 12 yrs ago Robert was making it in his basement!
@Ijusthopeitsquick
@Ijusthopeitsquick 2 жыл бұрын
He should have stayed there.
@brendanpowell6043
@brendanpowell6043 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ijusthopeitsquick he's created something of value. Lots of things of value have been produced in basements
@chriswhiteman5817
@chriswhiteman5817 Жыл бұрын
Top Gear? eh what is that
@erikschmitt5262
@erikschmitt5262 Жыл бұрын
Top Gear spent years spewing anti electric vehicle nonsense. They literally had a pro fossil fuel agenda. I stopped watching them years ago because of it.
@rickybryan1759
@rickybryan1759 Жыл бұрын
@@erikschmitt5262 I stopped watching for a range of reasons. General creeping nastiness being one. But agree they were very anti progressive to hybrids, completely fitted up the early Tesla.
@garethdesborough7960
@garethdesborough7960 2 жыл бұрын
I like this car very much. In fact I like it so much I’ve just ordered one as our second EV alongside our Tesla. It’s very well built, has every piece of tech you could reasonably want, drives beautifully and has an impressive range. A brilliant family EV and yet another entertaining and thorough review by Jack.
@JGS123WRPTP
@JGS123WRPTP 2 жыл бұрын
More completely normal EVs is exactly what's needed.
@hndit2u
@hndit2u 2 жыл бұрын
Can't agree. I'm an Aptera reservation holder and my fingers are crossed they'll be able to bring an ultra efficient EV to market. And with the Aptera form will definitely follow function. ENiro is a great car if you need seating for four.
@zachbattack
@zachbattack 2 жыл бұрын
@@hndit2u the market needs normal evs even if that’s not what YOU are looking for
@JGS123WRPTP
@JGS123WRPTP 2 жыл бұрын
@@hndit2u I’m glad you’re achieving the things you need to achieve to get the stuff you want, genuinely. I on the other hand need a basic little family car with half decent range and fast charging. I’d even take manual windows if needed.
@someguy9520
@someguy9520 2 жыл бұрын
@@hndit2u i freakin love the aptera. So little electricity needed for moving decently fast. Solar trickle charging that actually makes a difference But in reality very few are gonna want a 2 seater funky lookin thing like the aptera. Most just want a boring 4-5 seater that is cheap, efficient, quick charging and reliable
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@brendanfromireland
@brendanfromireland 2 жыл бұрын
Kia have seriously upped their game on design styling... The new logo is classy AF too.
@gee3883
@gee3883 2 жыл бұрын
Car was keyed as we have a huge population of pricks amongst us.
@wyattnoise
@wyattnoise 2 жыл бұрын
Love Jack for not making a fuss about getting an entry-level car to review and instead being like “This is good for the viewers!”
@jaywatanabe4706
@jaywatanabe4706 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the video, sound, & editting team on the video. The little driving sequence was straight out of a high end advert. An enjoyable compliment to Jack’s informative walk through :)
@ChrisHaupt
@ChrisHaupt 6 ай бұрын
was thinking the same. brilliant production
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack. Your style and language has been improving in leaps nd bounds. Keep up the good work! The Kia certainly looks better, and performs well. If I needed another EV, it would be high on my list for consideration. We're seeing real world range of 240 at motorway speeds to over 300 miles around town, from our ZE50, depending upon the amount of Lead in our right feet, and apart from the even slower recharging speed, nominally 50 kW, it suits us perfectly. Our economy meter is showing 6.2 miles per kWh right now, with daytime temperatures in the low 20's. I'd really love to test drive the Niro for a few days, to see what it can do with my mix of driving. It might attain more than 7 mi/kWh. But the manufacturers that the Germans really need to be worried about are in China, not Korea. They've pretty much cornered the battery manufacturing market, and are doing the same with EV's in general. In particular, keep a close eye on BYD over the next 12 to 18 months. They've pushed VW into third place already, and are starting to challenge Tesla.
@asaslam
@asaslam 2 жыл бұрын
05:00 those aren't 19s Jack. The Niro EV only comes with 17 inch wheels. PS: I have test driven the car and agree, it's a nice package. I've reserved one!
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sorry I’m a melt and I misspoke
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackScarlett1 it looks so good on 17s you forgot!
@saml7610
@saml7610 2 жыл бұрын
In your future reviews, do you think y'all could just briefly give a short PoV shot of the rearward visibility? A lot of the modern cars - especially crossovers like the Niro - I've test driven in recent years, the two big problems I've had are visibility out the rear window, and head room (I'm 6'4"). It's like a lot of manufacturers are using backup cameras as a crutch so they can focus on the aero features and reduce the rear window size. It's been bothering me quite a bit, and since I use your reviews to write my "cars I plan on test driving" list, it would be nice to know if I should even bother or if that rear visibility is so poor is becomes a deal breaker. Cheers!
@xxwookey
@xxwookey 2 жыл бұрын
Drive a van for while then you'll learn never to even try looking out the back window :-) Then it doesn't matter. I've never understood why people worry about this - I've not been able to look out the back window since 1992 and it's not been a problem.
@Army2willis
@Army2willis 2 жыл бұрын
I drive the Ev6 and I can tell you the rearview visibility is just fine for driving. The kicker is its not for reversing but that does not matter when you have a 360 camera and rearview cameras and the sensors to boot to assist in that area
@saml7610
@saml7610 2 жыл бұрын
@@Army2willis yeah I'm a stubborn bastard who doesn't like change, but maybe you're right and I just have to bite the bullet by learning to live with the cameras. My main concern is actually backing up, and like you said, the visibility ain't great for that in most modern cars. I just worry a little kid will run out behind me while I'm reversing and I won't be able to notice them...
@IanMcc1000
@IanMcc1000 2 жыл бұрын
It's the width of the A and B pillars that are more of a problem in a lot of modern EVs. The blindspots are unnecessarily large.
@_pehash
@_pehash 2 жыл бұрын
Reversing camera as standard. No need to test your neck flexibility.
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick 2 жыл бұрын
I think the charge port on the front is brilliant but it's going to face the same kind of challenge as the classic 70s gas filler behind the license plate at the back: collisions. If the port's on the nose it makes it puts it at risk. While an electrical plug is less hazardous to have in the bump zone than an open gas filler neck, it will make it much easier to permanently disable.
@Flaggyt
@Flaggyt 2 жыл бұрын
The chargeport is nothing but a simple connector very easily and cheaply replaced. And if an ev has been in a serious enough crash that it is properly destroyed it wise to not charge it anyway before the car is checked out. So I don't see any real problem to be fair.
@PassportToPimlico
@PassportToPimlico 2 жыл бұрын
That's true. I wonder if it could go up higher in a recess in the bonnet.
@marvingeorge157
@marvingeorge157 2 жыл бұрын
Statistics in U.S. for auto accidents show the front of the vehicle is involved in the majority of accidents, followed by the rear of the vehicle. If I have a FWD only vehicle I would prefer the charge port have less chance of becoming compromised in a minor accident and still be able charge it if it's still drivable.
@JeffRAllenCH
@JeffRAllenCH 2 жыл бұрын
The Renault Zoe has had a front charge port for a decade with no problems.
@AndrejGobec
@AndrejGobec 2 жыл бұрын
Collision detection and auto breaking system is now mandatory on all new cars. I'm sure it still can be crashed but charging electronics is not at the same place as the port so even in the case of some bent metal it should be easy to fix
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 2 жыл бұрын
If the two-tier boot/trunk means the same as it means on the 2020 and newer Soul EV, it refers to the ability to not only remove the floor, but to place it on a lower track. If so, you get to choose between more space or a floor that’s level with the opening.
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@graemecollin
@graemecollin 2 жыл бұрын
The design feature that I particularly like is the steering wheel! It's ROUND! None of this weird flat-bottomed malarky! All steering wheels should be round!
@ClebyHerris
@ClebyHerris 2 жыл бұрын
And it doesn’t have touch buttons. I love buttons. Stop removing buttons
@aaromnido
@aaromnido 2 жыл бұрын
I have an e-Niro since January 2021 and my family and I love this car. I repeat, we love this car. From Zaragoza, Spain we traveled across middle Spain and also part of France. Really really nice to travel in this car. And now, with Tesla Superchargers open, it's easier to travel with it. The new one is more beautiful and it has many improvements in the Drive trim (Intermediate). Maybe is time to refresh our e-Niro?
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@emil10139
@emil10139 2 жыл бұрын
My opinion is that there is a small difference regarding the price between this Kia and EV6. Maybe the latter is a better option.
@billbennett6921
@billbennett6921 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the charge port on the left side fender. I have a Chevy Volt (not Bolt) 2018 Premier model, and it is so convenient to park in my garage, get out and plug in to the charger on the left wall. In five seconds time I am through! The cable is 30 feet in length so that helps, but most public charging stations have cables long enough to easily reach the left fender.
@PaulHo
@PaulHo 2 жыл бұрын
I like that the lighting signatures match Jack's Vans.
@cyberdave17
@cyberdave17 2 жыл бұрын
Charger on the back corner. Should be reverse parking into bays and means when on the drive, there's less cable trailing around the car.
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@aviationtherapy9898
@aviationtherapy9898 2 жыл бұрын
Love this review as a 22’ Ev Niro owner. I test drove this new one and saw some major difference on the interior: switch gear on the doors feels noticeably chintzy, gloss black capacitive controls may push away utilitarian minded and OCD owners, there is less padding on the center and outboard arm rests, there are no rear vents for passengers on the base model like my 22, and the smaller screen in the infotainment is blatant cost cutting when the base model in the US comes with the 10 inch screen. It’s definitely a greater car now in some aspects, but I see drawbacks for the practical minded owners that were marketed to in the past like myself.
@randledmadden
@randledmadden 2 жыл бұрын
As a Niro EV owner I can confirm that it is very difficult not to love this car. It just does everything well. And I'd like to stress that once in Sport mode (the ONLY mode I ever drive it in), it is properly quick!
@joeb4294
@joeb4294 2 жыл бұрын
It looks much better with that rear blade area the same as the body color (or body colour).
@rikkijohnson7165
@rikkijohnson7165 2 жыл бұрын
I like it. It looks like a really great car and your presentation made me feel genuinely excited about it. Nice work Jack. Thanks
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@Yanquetino
@Yanquetino 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it has a rear window wiper -unlike the EV6.
@kuro68000
@kuro68000 2 жыл бұрын
Front is definitely the right place for the charge port.
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre 2 жыл бұрын
From a practical view, no doubt. From a security point not that much... that is where you are most likely to get hit in any road accident and damaging the port can probably produce a lot of extra costs. But Tesla drivers prefer other cars with front charger because they do not block anpther Supercharger needlessly (where they are open for other Evs). I think the Kia E Niro is generally a really really great car. Only BIG drawback: charging speed of 80kW is just 40% of what it should be...
@darrenwallis7630
@darrenwallis7630 2 жыл бұрын
I much prefer reversing into spaces - at the back for me please
@Richard482
@Richard482 2 жыл бұрын
@@tesla-spectre I read you are most likely to get rear-ended in an accident
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre 2 жыл бұрын
@@Richard482 by someone's front presumably :)
@kuro68000
@kuro68000 2 жыл бұрын
@@tesla-spectre I guess they have to keep the charge speed down to keep the battery price low. Faster charging means more cooling and extra spare capacity. Unless you do a lot of long trips then it's still just a 30 minute stop so it's probably not worth spending thousands more to save an hour or two a year.
@BenSullinsOfficial
@BenSullinsOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Mate, love the vest!
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@robochan0970
@robochan0970 2 жыл бұрын
What a great presenter Jack is!
@MattGarnham1
@MattGarnham1 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo for reviewing a entry spec model. A refreshing change!
@fabricelee9386
@fabricelee9386 2 жыл бұрын
Finally an entry level review!! Well done kia and fully charged, great to see.
@herrunsinn774
@herrunsinn774 2 жыл бұрын
04:19 "Can we please agree, car brands, that this is where the charge port should just go?" .... No no no no no! That is the absolute WORST place to put the charge port. Why? That's because the one spot on a car most likely to take an impact is the middle of the front bumper. Even a moderate tap will mean you can no longer have access to the charging port.... thus putting you out of "the driving business" with the smallest tap. If you insist on a center-mounted port, put it in the middle of the rear bumper.
@DeutschlandGuy
@DeutschlandGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree... That charging port might as well have a target painted on it. The area of a car most likely to receive impact damage (large or small) should not be where the charge port is located. Sure, a dent anywhere on a car is regrettable but don't put the charge port in the spot most vulnerable to even minor collisions.
@JulianLiebl
@JulianLiebl 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany it makes no sense to get the Niro. It's only 4000€ to the EV6. We wanted to get the Niro but where shocked how similar priced they are. For 4000€ you get a bigger battery, bigger car and a 800V system.
@RyanWilliams222
@RyanWilliams222 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought after watching this review. I was like, “I must be missing something here; this makes no sense.”
@lendios764
@lendios764 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting the ev6 though... currently in the UK it's late Q3 delivery if you order one today. Niro is still Q1 next year and was Q3 this year if you pre-ordered. Also 4000 euros is a lot to some people.
@JulianLiebl
@JulianLiebl 2 жыл бұрын
@@lendios764 you need to check the dealers. I called 15 and 1 had 400 ordered back in 2021. Had to wait 2 months. Ordered in Mai 2022 arrived in early July 2022. All the other dealers told me there is no chance to get one before July 2023. Sure 4000 is ALOT also for me. Considering the resell value, get an EV6 on credit. You will have to spend less money in the end.
@lendios764
@lendios764 2 жыл бұрын
​@@JulianLiebl Oh don't get me wrong, we own an EV6 GT line S aswell that we ordered early this year and got 2 weeks ago. But the situation has gotten a lot worse, and all dealers within 250miles of me said the same thing unfortunately. I'm guessing the situation in the UK is a lot worse than where you are in Europle sadly, atleast we don't have to deal with the dealership markups they have in the US, ha!
@michealoflaherty1265
@michealoflaherty1265 2 жыл бұрын
🎶 "I need a Niro, I'm holding out for a Niro..... " 🎶 😊😊
@mikeymike1792
@mikeymike1792 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the affordable EVs for the masses, I presume an MG4 review is on the way? I've heard good things so far!
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 2 жыл бұрын
Next week! Bobby called dibs on that one
@davidotoole9328
@davidotoole9328 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackScarlett1 if a gun had been put to my head I wouldn’t have know your surname. Sounds like a ex-SAS captain dragged back in to service when his wife is kidnapped.
@JamesScholesUK
@JamesScholesUK 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidotoole9328 He's the one who knows the Mysterons' plan!
@onathanj
@onathanj 2 жыл бұрын
As a presenter on KZbin, you would have to look very long to find someone as likable and professional as Jack.
@siwi666
@siwi666 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, who threatens people with death...
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@1519Spring
@1519Spring 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Appreciate the production values of the video as well as the contents.
@SingleTrackMined
@SingleTrackMined 2 жыл бұрын
5:03 I am in awe of Kia's new 17" tire on 19" rim technology. I imagine stretching the rubber that much lowers rolling resistance proportionally?
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 жыл бұрын
kia engineers are top tier
@MrGamelover23
@MrGamelover23 2 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about what you speak, can you elaborate on why that's so amazing?
@1derekwinter1
@1derekwinter1 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGamelover23 The wheels are 17” 😬
@bikeman123
@bikeman123 2 жыл бұрын
What? Do you really believe they stretch 17 Inch tyres onto 19 inch rims?
@johnlewis5663
@johnlewis5663 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid , waiting for delivery of my Kia Niro E. However I have a couple of questions for you, where do the bottles in the boot go and why does your left arm suddenly appear in a long sleeved jumper.
@ThatTechoGuy
@ThatTechoGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@5:00 - The wheels are 17 inch right as that's on the tire too, not 19 inch as you said. Can you get larger than 17 inch?
@scottn96
@scottn96 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the editing for this video. Well done, team!
@ivo4357
@ivo4357 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the placement of the charging port. Most of the damage in traffic (especially in cities) happen on the front and the back of the cars. This is the worst place, if they bump into it while parking (as my neighbor recently did with my car) the charging port can get damaged and you'll have no way to charge your car!!! You can wait a few weeks to get a scratch or dent repaired (most garages make you wait that long), but that's not possible if you can't recharge, right?
@doudoune1067
@doudoune1067 2 жыл бұрын
At least on the old niros the cover is plastic and it's placed a few centimeters behind the plate. You'd need a pretty bad crash to not be accessible anymore
@Lueeee
@Lueeee 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of disagree on that one. if it's a high speed accident then you will most likely have to tow it anyways, and if it's slow speed then it won't damage the charge port. And on top of that I don't think we should put the charger in a worse spot just because it might get damaged, but makes my everyday life a lot easier.
@ivo4357
@ivo4357 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lueeee as I said in my comment, my car was hit in the front by my neighbor, who has a military all terrain vehicle. A low speed crash was enough to damage my BMW X1 (already a sturdy car) in exactly the spot that port would be. I can tell you right now, the port will no longer open if that happens (imagine something hitting the side port of a gasoline car, that would be damaged too). It's not so much the charging outlet that will get damaged, it's the port itself. Also this: a front port is not easier for everyone. In my example, I need to drive my car fairly close to my garage workbench. It would be much harder for me to use a front port than a side port. So I get that some people find it useful, but to say as they do in the review that ALL vehicles should be made like that, is just plane wrong. What would be a practical solution, is to use 2 charging ports. As 2 electric charging ports is much easier to achieve than in a gasoline version (it's only some electrical wire), I think that's the way to go.
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@philproflee6316
@philproflee6316 8 ай бұрын
With so many safety features like the Forward Collision Avoidance Assist, the designer must have thought through it and find that it is highly unlikely to have a frontal crash. Thanks to the designers.
@BillsCountrysideAdventures
@BillsCountrysideAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
OOOOOOUUUUUUU nearly 1 Million Subs :) Well done guys!
@paulw575
@paulw575 2 жыл бұрын
They love the E.T. style headrests. They look odd, but they are comfortable.
@ralphg63
@ralphg63 2 жыл бұрын
It seems more like a wagon than an SUV. I hate SUVs. Hate to be on the highway behind them, can't see around them. I saw the old NIRO, was very much Grandpa's car, but this new one seems perfect. I drive a 2020 Ioniq EV, and love it. Need to switch it out Fall 2023.... this could be the one. thx for the great review
@freathinker
@freathinker Жыл бұрын
We still love our 2020 Niro EV - although - in Canada we had the choice of 2 colours - white and black - that purple/blue makes me totally envious
@marcuswebb21
@marcuswebb21 2 жыл бұрын
Great work Jack love how you have toned it down a bit on the over acting it comes across so much better in my opinion 👍
@stanja28
@stanja28 2 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer certain styling elements of the old one, but the new one doesn't look too conspicuous I guess... I hate the tail light situation, looks like they just glued them to the side I loved the interior.
@ServiceProcess
@ServiceProcess 2 жыл бұрын
The reviewer and the review are outstanding. The guy is a pro.
@markymarkreviews
@markymarkreviews 2 жыл бұрын
All round brilliant EV (like the last one). But as you mentioned, I totally agree it should have had 130-150kW charge capability. It would have been a 10 out of 10 EV then. But this is still 9/10 but a touch pricey for the fully loaded model.
@Joe-lb8qn
@Joe-lb8qn 2 жыл бұрын
I drive its uglier (some say quirky) younger sister the Soul and I've never missed or needed super fast charging. Ona 300 mile trip i need to stop for longer than the 20 mins the car needs to top up enough to get to my destination where i can charge. Ona 200 mile trip i dont need to charge at all, and charge overnight at my destination . Maybe if you are a road warrior doing stupid mileage every day lack of fast charging would be an issue, in which case get a Tesla.
@markymarkreviews
@markymarkreviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@Joe-lb8qn Not a deal breaker but charging speed curiously under spec from the same manufacturer who make the EV6 (which also has a high real world range) and can charge at 240kW speeds. That speed would not be needed but all manufacturers latest offerings do 100-150kW which is enough. The Soul etc came out a few years ago now. In a few years this car will be lagging behind when it comes to sell. May not matter to you but will matter to a few more.
@Joe-lb8qn
@Joe-lb8qn 2 жыл бұрын
@@markymarkreviews Yeh, maybe its one of those things that new buyers want but dont actually need. A bit like 10+ years ago everyone wanted a bigger and bigger pixel count on their digital camera ignoring quality and sensor size. I'm finding it hard to source a replacement (just for a change) because very few other cars have equal let alone more range and teh few that do are very large. One of these days after too many glasses of wine I'll just buy a Model Y and be done
@markymarkreviews
@markymarkreviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@Joe-lb8qn 👍I am a big fan of the Niro,Kona and Soul EVs as they offer a great range in a compact package. But with cars like the new MG4 EV coming to market for £10k cheaper (and putting aside the "but its's Chinese" issues) it represents the growing competition coming to the EV market. Kia improved on just about everything on this updated model but just gave a slight tweak to the charging profile, which was a bit of a shame.
@itekani
@itekani 2 жыл бұрын
And at least 1000kg towing like id4 or Model 3. But at least 750kg is better than nothing.
@d.e.7467
@d.e.7467 2 жыл бұрын
The local UPS taught my former company's delivery trucks to back in at a destination because the driver's tendency to hurry to the next destination would increase accidents if s/he has to back out. Was it always possible? Of course not, but they had a lot more trucks than we did and a very enviable safety record. That's why I prefer the filler location in the rear.
@mikeg6606
@mikeg6606 2 жыл бұрын
Airports have A LOT of cameras. I bet they can follow the keyer to their own vehicle.
@tomattime
@tomattime 2 жыл бұрын
Jack in full Clarkson with a Conscience at the beginning! Superb rEView, I'm never keen on charging ports being front and centre, a simple bump and...... Oh deary me.
@Tommiart
@Tommiart 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, my only constructive criticism might be that you've mentioned many times that it's a family car, so maybe steal a family and lump them in the back for a bit to give us an idea of range, ride and comfort in that situation (maybe even a big family Vs a little family.... depending on how many you can .....er.....'borrow').
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@StarLuna973
@StarLuna973 2 жыл бұрын
The new Niro looks amazing but Jack, not everyone wants the charging port to be on the front of the car!! Lots of us reverse onto our drives (if we’re lucky enough to have one) and therefore prefer the charging port to be on the side (especially the right side)!! Great, entertaining video as always.
@julesverneinoz
@julesverneinoz 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, that is a good point. I reverse-park everywhere because I can see the way is clear going in (no pedestrians) and I can see clearly going out (no other cars also reversing out, no pedestrians, etc.).
@bradleyarcher9840
@bradleyarcher9840 2 жыл бұрын
I have an MG ZS with the charge point at the front and it’s the one thing I personally hate. It’s much safer to reverse park, I’d much prefer a charge point on the side of my vehicle rather than the front. Looks neater when parked, safer and easier to pull away again.
@craiglawrence5211
@craiglawrence5211 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, I prefer the ZS to the 4 due to the nose charger. It seems to split people (and reviewers) roughly equally. Are you Mk1 ZS or Mk2? Mk1 nose charger has other issues which can conflate the matter (mine does my head in too some times, sodding bungs)
@CRAZYCR1T1C
@CRAZYCR1T1C 2 жыл бұрын
Much better to pull into the charge point head on. No guessing if the cable can reach. You are over thinking it
@toby9999
@toby9999 2 жыл бұрын
Personal preference I guess. I never reverse park, so front would be my preference.
@markosborne1740
@markosborne1740 2 жыл бұрын
My question would be: what are the alternatives. It seems much less efficient to me to have the charge plug at the sides at the rear, because you limit which chargers you can use (you can only use the one on the correct side of your vehicle). Or you could put the charge socket somewhere at the rear under the boot - but there you have all the sensors and rear camera, etc. To me, front centre is by far the most logical location. Plus, you are not reversing out of the charging station straight on to a road, but into a car park of some sort. Plus it is rare to have cars parked on both sides of you, so visibility should be fine.
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I get that you don't like it. Have a small accident in the front and you'll probably no longer be able to drive/charge while you wait for your repair appointment. However, it does have advantages too. My only real objection is cars that have charge points down the side, say behind the front wheel. This includes Audi, Porsche, etc. You'll hardly ever have a dead easy reach to a raid charger. Teslas are fine, right on the corner. My own ID.3 is OK too. It's sufficiently rearward to be fine. A word on the Kia Niro. Drop the petrol/hybrid versions and design it ground up as a BEV. It'll be even better.
@greyareaRK1
@greyareaRK1 2 жыл бұрын
I admit being confused when someone tells me the new 'exciting shapes' at the front end of a car are much better looking than the old ones. If you told me the old one was the new design, I'd believe you.
@rewolvi
@rewolvi 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the new one looks ugly. It reminds me of the plastic Citroen.
@itekani
@itekani 2 жыл бұрын
Surely nobody would say the old front looked exciting?
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@itekani "In the eye of the beholder" ... surely you've looked at a mate's gf and thought to yourself "FFS... that should be on a lead ... ?" Same principle.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 жыл бұрын
@@t1n4444 dont be dummy, only goofs thinks the old niro ev front end is more exciting.
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Eye of the beholder.
@Andrew-zs5tc
@Andrew-zs5tc 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning efficiency. Too many EV reviews focus on range and charging speed. I suspect there are a large percentage of potential owners that don't care too much about charging speed or range (as long as it is enough to cover their needs). My guess is that many (if not most) buyers will do most of their charging at home negating the importance of both range and charging speed at a charging station. Efficiency then becomes the most important factor in which EV is the better vehicle.
@cannygrowabeard
@cannygrowabeard 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very subtle but the production values on this review are right up there 😍
@andymiles5156
@andymiles5156 2 жыл бұрын
There needs to be a charging port at the front and the back. At home I reverse into the drive so I can safely see to get out onto the road, a front mounted port would be useless. Yet I see the value in car parks.
@santisizable
@santisizable 2 жыл бұрын
I charge mine to 100% and it shows the range of 350 miles in economy mode. Fantastic.
@renewableteacher
@renewableteacher 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks. This is the model I would go for, I don't need all the extras of the higher spec model, and keeps the price down a bit.
@emilaubry6856
@emilaubry6856 2 жыл бұрын
I love the new of the look Nero and the quality of the interior and tech is mind-blowing for the value
@schunkelndedschunke6914
@schunkelndedschunke6914 2 жыл бұрын
The EV6 with rear wheel drive and the 58kWh battery is in many ways a better deal with nearly the same price.
@therookienomore88
@therookienomore88 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like it as a tall person, but if it had more head space in the EV6 it would have been a no brainer.
@rogerevans425
@rogerevans425 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but living in a country lane, which is used as a rat run, with hawthorn hedges the EV6 is just too big. Even my old Ceed gets scratched. They have changed the Niro's characteristics so the FWD isn't so aggresive. I've just ordered one!
@therookienomore88
@therookienomore88 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerevans425 congrats! That’s what I have as well - 2022 model. It is very practical.
@billydewillie297
@billydewillie297 2 жыл бұрын
If you like the design from the EV 6 I tried both, and still, a choce the Niro. Especially because the interior . But I'm also nearly 70 years old.😅
@dylanwhite6539
@dylanwhite6539 2 жыл бұрын
Ya know I was just about to write this car off but I remembered something. 1) I rarely fast charge my 2015 Kia soul ev as it is. 2) 80kw slots just under the cheaper price by minute speed of EAs chargers, so it would actually be potentially more cost effective as most of the other chargers here that aren’t EA are 50 or 62.5kW anyway. I think I’m sold.
@8ballali
@8ballali 2 жыл бұрын
The charging point should be in the middle, at the back, so that people can park properly (reversing in, and drive out forward).
@toby9999
@toby9999 2 жыл бұрын
Since when is "reversing in" parking properly? Is it a UK rule? I never reverse park.
@8ballali
@8ballali 2 жыл бұрын
@@toby9999 That's what my driving instructor told me to do, as you can't see around you properly while reversing out of a carpark space. Also, it means you can start to steer as soon as you start to drive out of the space, whereas reversing out, the front wants to swing wide, but can't if cars are parked next to you. So I've always done it that way. I assumed it was correct. Never have checked to be honest. I agree with my instructor though. It's easier to come out forwards, than reversing out.
@ianwallis7703
@ianwallis7703 2 жыл бұрын
@@toby9999 In the UK the Highway Code used to advise drivers to reverse into spaces, driveways etc although I'm not sure it still does. It's considered safer to reverse in and come forwards out.
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@jm31828
@jm31828 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as others have said, I never reverse park. It’s much more difficult to try to back into a tight space between two cars than it is to pull in forward and then back out when leaving. The backup camera and rear cross traffic warning system in the Niro make that even easier/safer.
@fido5067
@fido5067 2 жыл бұрын
What a great car, the entry level spec is perfect with the daytime running lights etc. Awesome, pity I live in South Africa with an horrendous ev import tax.
@erikjohansson2703
@erikjohansson2703 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf why would they tax EVs extra
@Richard482
@Richard482 2 жыл бұрын
That's shit
@fido5067
@fido5067 2 жыл бұрын
Because they are fuvking stupid and corrupt and think coal is the future power source for the country. (As a convenient way to channel corrupt money for the ring anc party via coal supply contracts etc)
@mrpugster
@mrpugster 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikjohansson2703 same as in the UK, high tax, pushing everyone to use EVs, net zero bollocks, government making more money.
@gwynnej3
@gwynnej3 2 жыл бұрын
The central charge port is all very well but it's huge and being side-hinged means the car is nearly a foot longer when charging. That is space (length) needed in your garage, if you charge indoors.
@don.timeless4993
@don.timeless4993 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you & other NEV reviewers consider these most important info at the beginning of the review: 1-battery & motor manufacturer 2- battery & motor tech 3- battery & motor type
@garycat
@garycat 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should have increased the rapid charging rate, 77kW is pretty low these days. Also I believe the motor torque is lower than the older car. Otherwise, a very good EV
@Richard482
@Richard482 2 жыл бұрын
The torque was lowered on purpose. The car woud tend to lose traction
@badpojken
@badpojken 2 жыл бұрын
Charging is 100kW according to the data sheet, so a 25% gain
@jamespaul2587
@jamespaul2587 2 жыл бұрын
@@badpojken yes, but people don't always realize those peak speeds are only reached with optimal conditions, and for a limited state of charge range
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 2 жыл бұрын
'EV6 on a budget' !?! $61,000 Australian for a family car 😳 Are they serious? Ive no doubt it's a great car, but that's $1000 more than the already overpriced Tesla model 3. It's twice the price of Kia's own base model Seltos and $15 k more than the top line version of that car - A car which will do the exact same job. The promise of 'economies of scale' reducing EV prices is just not happening. We NEED well priced Mum and Dad family EVs if we are ever going to turn the tide.
@SkaBob
@SkaBob 2 жыл бұрын
In the US the base model 3 starts at about $48k, the EV Niro was about $39k, so the Niro is a good bit less expensive. Although we don't have the new 2023 model out here. But for budget EV's the Volt EUV beats them all and starts about $27k US.
@donmega1323
@donmega1323 2 жыл бұрын
This is what Top Gear EV would look like for the new and changing automotive television genre. I love it. Charge on!
@aarondejaeger7247
@aarondejaeger7247 2 жыл бұрын
€47000? On a budget? Family car? Do you guys live on the same planet as I do?
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@dalee442
@dalee442 2 жыл бұрын
Love the update. The old one is indeed, so easy to drive.
@roscopeco2000
@roscopeco2000 2 жыл бұрын
Love the fresh prince outfit..
@countertony
@countertony 2 жыл бұрын
Having recently hired this at my local car hire place (thank you Cambridge Car & Van Rental for going hard on electrics!) I definitely did enjoy it. Since I'm only hiring a car if I've got a long way to travel, I'm probably using rapid chargers more than most, and even I am content with the charging speed. Frankly, with the so-so rollout of CCS 150 kW+ chargers outside the largest cities (ref: Zap-map), I'm not going to go out of my way (or even change my stopping point) to find one over a 50 kW charger. Almost the reverse - since as a car renter I'm not driving regularly, I need the rest breaks more, so if it takes me 45 minutes rather than 15 to charge 20-80%, that's just more time for me to fortify myself for the next leg of the journey.
@IILORIMERII
@IILORIMERII 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always... thanks to all involved :)
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@ComettableMabel
@ComettableMabel 11 ай бұрын
Changing my MG4 SE SR Monday for the above 😊 ❤
@richardhaiku
@richardhaiku 2 жыл бұрын
So glad the charging port is central at the front not to the right as with some manufacturers and the previous KIA. It just makes the front of the car look asymmetrical otherwise.
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 2 жыл бұрын
Okay car, I like it. I'd like to express my appreciation for the on screen texts for info, especially for the efficiency data. Thank you!
@t3hpwninat0r
@t3hpwninat0r 2 жыл бұрын
If you get 4 miles per KW and the charging speed is 80 KWh, that's "theoretically" charging at 340 miles per hour. Obvs it won't always be charging at max speed, but when you consider the battery size is around 60 KW and how much juice will be in there already at the start of your charging session, it's still really fast! You could easily get a full charge during your weekly shop.
@DailySource
@DailySource 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that the charging won’t be an issue for most people. Most car reviewers have a tendency to be kind of snobby in their expectations, and not thinking terms of what would really matter to a person on a budget, which is most people. Jack and most of the people it fully charged are a lot better about this than most reviewer‘s are… though I think he slipped up on this review by making too big of a deal out of this.
@karlbbb
@karlbbb 2 жыл бұрын
Just as a heads-up, you have your kW and kWh mixed up. Efficiency (mi/kWh) and battery storage is in kWh, whereas instantaneous power (the motor and charging) is done in kW.
@t3hpwninat0r
@t3hpwninat0r 2 жыл бұрын
@@karlbbb oops! I think most people should understand the point I'm trying to make though, so I'll leave it.
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@kinross24
@kinross24 2 жыл бұрын
No heat pump! Really??
@Richard482
@Richard482 2 жыл бұрын
It's an optional extra on the top spec
@kesgreen4639
@kesgreen4639 2 жыл бұрын
What's the heat pump for?
@sevensixtysteve8662
@sevensixtysteve8662 2 жыл бұрын
Great review but IDK if its just me, but 40K seems a lot for a this class of car (thats for the 3, the 4 is more). Is that outstanding value ? I have a decent job and my outgoings aren't that high but I couldn't afford one which is kinda depressing. Maybe Kia is making a conscious effort to move upmarket (the pricing would seem to suggest they are) which I think is a shame as it reduces the options for people trying to move from ICEs to EVs. MG must be smiling though as they polish their new 4s which are all of 10K cheaper than the Kia - now THAT may be outstanding value.
@l.u.c.a.s.
@l.u.c.a.s. 2 жыл бұрын
I s2g a sub-30k EV that's decent shouldn't be THAT hard to make.
@udishomer5852
@udishomer5852 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Bought a brand new Kia Stonic last year for $18,000 including taxes. Price has gone up to $19,000 now, but still its half price of this Nero EV.
@kesgreen4639
@kesgreen4639 2 жыл бұрын
I see so many expensive cars on the road - I have no idea how people afford them, especially in the current financial climate. Are these people all in debt up to their eyeballs, or are there that many people who are paid a lot of money? I'm paid an average salary, but there's no way I could buy a car that costs more than I earn in a year. That's crazy. I'll be sticking with my 1998 Honda Civic until it becomes un-driveable.
@TechedOff
@TechedOff 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I completely agree with your sentiment. No matter how much these reviews from many influencers call these vehicles “for the masses” and “affordable” to the average person, these are priced as luxury cars and will remain as such until supply catches up with demand. (My guess is in about 5 years) until then no real point in following too much of the ev market as luxury pricing will be the name of the game for quite awhile.
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@wildone3048
@wildone3048 2 жыл бұрын
Good review well presented, nice 1.
@brendanwallace4661
@brendanwallace4661 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent review Jack! I have been waiting for this one. Now decided my 10yr focus will be my last ICE and be replaced by the Niro.
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool and all but I'm still hanging out for the Sion.
@robertroberts5218
@robertroberts5218 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an honest review. Why didn't you pop the hoods while they wrte side by side? Lots of interesting stuff in there. Any change to the layout. Is it a different motor with same spec or really the same motor? To bad you lost the awsome blue paint.
@deanrhodenizer938
@deanrhodenizer938 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great review. That charging port in the “Right Place” - front of the vehicle - is a deal breaker for me. My garage is a bit tight and I can’t access a port on the front of the vehicle. My garage is attached so backing in is not an option as I cannot access the door leading to the living space.
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, charging port should be on the sides. Or for premium vehicles there can be two ac only type2 plugs for home use.
@sktaylor99
@sktaylor99 2 жыл бұрын
Another perfect review Jack
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@Mats.Fagerberg
@Mats.Fagerberg 2 жыл бұрын
A charge port in the front is likely too freeze in winter.
@northeee
@northeee 2 жыл бұрын
My Nissan Leaf charge port has never frozen up in 5 years. Definitely the easiest place to plug in .
@Richard482
@Richard482 2 жыл бұрын
@@northeee Same here
@racekar80
@racekar80 2 жыл бұрын
My older E Niro has never frozen up, it’s actually the BEST place for the port
@starvictory7079
@starvictory7079 2 жыл бұрын
Hasn't happened to me here in Sweden. Drive in snow too.
@kylesimmonds9925
@kylesimmonds9925 2 жыл бұрын
Haven''t driven the new Niro EV, but traded my 3 year old Niro EV for a Bolt EUV and don't regret it at all. The Bolt suspension is much more composed for every day driving. There are some give and take items that aren't on the Bolt, such as the power folding mirrors, front parking sensors, about 3cf less in the hatch, but the Bolt interior feels more polished then the Niro did and has extras like the video rear view mirror and super cruise which is extremely nice on the highway. Again, I can't compare the newer version of the Niro, but based on the last version I am much happier with the Bolt. The slower DC charging has no impact on me as it's a second car and only used for trips for 200 miles or less.
@arcoulant87
@arcoulant87 2 жыл бұрын
Budget car !£36,000 + I don't think so.
@andymcnish
@andymcnish 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for Kia, the MG4 just blew this out of the water in terms of value for money (and looks).The cheapest vesion of this 'budget EV' is £36,245 on the road (if you can find one). You get 285 miles of range and max 80KW charging. The MG4 SE Long Range is £8000 cheaper and you get the same range and 50% faster max charging (120KW) and they are shipping 20,000 of them to the UK in Q4 2022. If you can live with 220 miles of range the base MG4 is fully £10,000 cheaper than the base Nero (although that is alos 80KW charging onlyI think). But in any spec the MG4 looks (and apparently drives) much better.
@grizzly._.
@grizzly._. 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in a place that gets snow in winter, a front-facing charging port is a bad idea unless the cover is heated and very well insulated. Otherwise you'll end up with a snowed-over, really dirty, potentially frozen cover that you can't get open without a hair dryer or hot water. If you get it open you might also find it packed with snow if it's poorly insulated. I also agree with the comments regarding crash vulnerability. I love a front port in theory, it just looks really cool but in practice there are too many drawbacks. That said, it wouldn't be a dealbreaker to buy this car, although the sluggish-for-a-brand-new-model-in-2022 fast-charging probably is.
@andytipping70
@andytipping70 2 жыл бұрын
how would you ever properly wash/wax / keep the green away from the aero gap?
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@Joseph-jy5lz
@Joseph-jy5lz 2 жыл бұрын
I would be happy with either of the old or new Niro
@fullychargedshow
@fullychargedshow 2 жыл бұрын
Is the right answer…
@sajidanielalexander1971
@sajidanielalexander1971 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this … have an eniro 4 + Which I absolutely love ( simple to drive as you say ) and have been on the look out for a new lease EV . This video has influenced me significantly and reaffirmed what my heart always said . Niro EV it is I think . Thanks
@KraKra-Ah
@KraKra-Ah 2 жыл бұрын
I love that new Kia logo. So much better than the old one.
@thierryliotard3077
@thierryliotard3077 2 жыл бұрын
My Kia e-Niro has been keyed last week too ! I feel your pain ! I suspect jealousy as the main motive because this car is AWESOME !!! 😊
@christinechin1909
@christinechin1909 2 жыл бұрын
The Kia Keyer - that’s funny & painful at the same time.
@macronencer
@macronencer 10 ай бұрын
Great review, thank you! My Kona lease is ending in May and I'm considering one of these instead. It's slightly slower but I don't care about that - at my age I'm only worried about comfort really :) It's a shame about the 80kW charging, though most of the time that won't affect me as I charge at home.
@ObviousNoob11
@ObviousNoob11 2 жыл бұрын
The highest chance of body damage is right where the charge port is. Much more $$ to fix. Charge ports should not be on front or rear bumpers.
@leehouten2345
@leehouten2345 Жыл бұрын
I love my Niro ev3. It does everything I want and so much more. A good practical easy to drive car
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the Soul EV sells nearly 1:1 with the Niro EV in Canada. Canada is the only market where that’s the case, in every other market the Niro EV is considerably more popular than the Soul EV.
@evang3943
@evang3943 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a real shame the newer gen of the Soul EV didn't make it to the States.
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 2 жыл бұрын
@@evang3943 Yeah, they didn't release the 2020 model in the U.S. citing supply chain issues. But the 2020 model came out in 2019, so that was pre-pandemic. And yet, it's a top seller North of the border in Canada where you could just walk onto a dealership in 2019 or 2020 and drive away with one the same day.
@petstore9916
@petstore9916 2 жыл бұрын
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@jm31828
@jm31828 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Seattle snd made a day trip up to Vancouver, Canada last Friday. I saw a ton of Soul and Kona EV’s, whereas down here I rarely see either of those.
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 2 жыл бұрын
@@jm31828 Yeah, I see pretty close to 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 between the three (Soul EV, Kona Electric, and Niro EV) here in Canada. And lots of all three. The only things I see more of are Leafs and Teslas, but they've also been on the market longer than Hyundai Kia's EVs.
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