Gabor Maté: A relationship between mental stress and physical outcomes?

Women are often made to look after the emotional needs of their families, while simultaneously denying their own. Gabor Maté - who has decades of experience as a doctor working with mental illness, trauma, and addiction - says that’s having a very real physical effect on our bodies by way of autoimmune diseases.
In this chat, Fearne and Gabor discuss the relationship between mental stress and physical outcomes, as well as the way in which the political systems we live in are having a huge impact on our personal mental health.
The Myth Of Normal, the book that Gabor has written with his son Daniel, is available to buy now.
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[@MattZaraMusic]

"That disease is not an abnormality, it's a normal response to an abnormal set of circumstances" Incredible line

[@robynhope219]

Yes, but it's an old one.

[@kayvangelou8032]

I love this man and his calm voice and calm presence. I wonder if he knows that his calm way of speaking has a great healing power on peoples' nervous system...so calming...lovely man...thank you for all your suffering that you turned it around to help many others, on here too.❤

[@2212booboo]

Thank you Dr. Gabor for doing this even though you are unwell ☹️❤️

[@StressRUs]

I love my fellow physician and Hungarian descendant, but population density stress is the direct result of our living/dying in the stressor filled manmade "built" physical environment, cut off from nature, we were born into and it is killing us NOW! I, too, love his wonderful new book, "The Myth of Normal", but his understanding of stress physiology and its causative relationship to ALL of our modern "diseases of civilization" could be expanded, none of these diseases are found in traditional living Hunter-Gatherer/pastoral clans. I'm a retired psychiatrist and NEVER read a more important text for psychiatrists than Gabor's new book. I'm, also, a recovering alcoholic/addict/addictionist and Gabor's book is the single best reference for understanding addiction I've ever read! Thank you, both! Stress R Us

[@CuteBrainiacGirl]

I love this man so deeply. He has brought me enormous knowledge, laughter, and healing.

[@robynhope219]

LAUGHTER???

[@nicolecortez7875]

Psilocybin, LSD, and ketamine are absolutely life changing substances that have so much potential to help people with mental health issues

[@charliefenan4235]

I feel like, especially these days, everybody is struggling with mental health and could benefit from careful/ intentional therapeutic use of substances like these.

[@bradwhitaker365]

I am feeling the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels. I am also glad to be a part of this community.

[@charlottelily4491]

I have tripped with nhr_syndicatee couple of times. Their products are top notch

[@nicolecortez7875]

@@charlottelily4491 This whole thing is pretty new to me, can I contact nhr_syndicate for guidance?

[@charlottelily4491]

@@nicolecortez7875 Yeah sure!! he is the best mycologist i would recommend you

[@chickenchicken123]

I just bought this book, 100 pages in and it is amazing. Dr Matè has wise words on trauma that have helped me in my journey to healing. Trauma is a wound caused by an event, therefore we can heal that wound. The event that caused the trauma will always be, we can't change it. But we can heal.

[@theyoutubinggodzilla1225]

My favorite clips of his work so far. Dr. Gabor shines the light so bright. He calls it like it is and the self love he is able to inspire in all of us is big medicine, free for all of humanity. A lovely, true, and trusted elder.

[@pnklady3788]

One of my favourites... love Gabor! He has got it nailed! Absolutely brilliant!

[@StressRUs]

"...social media is the language and technology of disconnection," is just one profound statements in this wonderful interchange between two honest, sincere humans, which, unfortunately, is so rare in our alienated society. Stress R Us

[@phylippapembrey9293]

Thank you Gabor for all you do. 🙏🏻❤💚🇮🇪

[@juned5442]

The world is blessed to know Dr Gabor Mate, In appreciation of his works, thank to you and Fearne

[@lealea6020]

Gabor Mate is very clever, and umderstands what many physician's don't. And I like the interviewer too. Yes there needs to be more empathy in schooling, more emphasis on safety and connection.... And body & mind are the same system ❤️

[@kimlarkin2630]

Fearne what a great interview....... Gabor is a breath of fresh air🙏

[@careynazyeustt5841]

I pray that the medical system (and all other socially/psychologically/spiritually systems) catch on to what's been spoken of here and change their ways 🙏. For everyone's sake, including their own. I pray for all of us to do the appropriate loving required so that we can recreate peaceful, joyful egalitarian society on planet Earth. Thank you Fearne and Gabor for your uplifting conversation. Bless us all!

[@rochellebroglen4155]

Curiosity opens the door for compassion. I know we're seeing clearly (and will continue to), but it's like a triage. We need to see it to heal it. Keep listening to your Inner Wisdom. Every other person has that same connection to their Soul. Just like you heard your call to Wholeness, they will too. This movement of healing is growing. You're part of that. I know it's not been easy, but every step you take on this path makes it easier for others. You're not alone. Your heart will heal and as it does, others do as well. Thank you for doing the hard work. I see you and I love you. Blessings 🙏 may you fully know the ever-present Love that you are 💖

[@yukio_saito]

35:22 "This is called the social media, but it's all the anti-social media." So true. That was a well put. I deleted "anti-social media" accounts like Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. It's a huge waste of time and energy.

[@The_Reality_Filter]

Well at least you never slept with a baby f**ker like Fearne did...

[@zsufodor]

Such a beautiful and interesting conversation. Gabor is amazing!! Thank you Fernie 💜

[@hakeemperring2699]

Brilliant episode, huge Gabor fan. In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts is one of my favourite books of all time 💜

[@fransarahallen7887]

Thank you so much Fearne for bringing Gabor to us all....... everything you have talked about resonates so much for me and my thoughts and experiences the last 10 years...... everything he talks about he articulates so well - the emotional turmoil we find ourselves in as a culture, as an individual.... the disconection, individualism, emphasis on success as individual achievement, and material things. Thank you again....

[@julie5668]

Ayurvedic medicine says, "There's no pill for every ill, but there's an ill for every pill." - I am a testimony to that, having had to take drugs since I was 6 months old and the damage it has done to my body. Maybe, if someone had listened to me a bit more I wouldn't be in the mess my body is in now.

[@elpompo5166]

I love this man! Thanks for your work

[@ourhealingvoice]

Ive heard him speak alot... I really do love hearing him always,,,,, but I really enjoyed this talk in particular ... it's a testament to your professional interview experience Fearne ...and to get him thinking at the end ...The awful scenario that started his life and caused him so much pain ....has in the end, given the whole World a gift, more than anyone could've aver imagined...and through it all ...what a brave instinctive act his mother took, by leaving him in such terrible events. I hope he got some nice tea after

[@avinandac]

It's only the affected people who understand the true meaning of compassion and wisdom.... The suffering teach them this... I which only a "book" cannot ever teach ❤

[@brendaherbiansyah3650]

Thank you Fearne & Gabor, at the minutes 23:45 you honestly asking how we should keep the balance between working life, family life & self life. Sometimes this conflict balancing is stressful. We dont want hurting our kids, our family but in other side as a self we cant ignore our self calling, our needs our family needs, our work. Salute for supermom & superdad all around the world. Keep stronger & happier be true self and makes better world with love to our kids, family & environtment around us. Salam Rahayu 🙏

[@buffywhatever1093]

Gabor Mate, a giant of our world, no question.

[@duncanfairbairn5480]

So brilliant, I wish pastoral teams in schools educated themselves to this content

[@anonymouslyanonymous7883]

Totally agree

[@AdoptionWisdom]

It was a wonderful interview and conversation Thank u so much

[@fairygodmotherflowerEternal221]

I adore and appreciate Gabor Mate. Thank you Fern and Gabor. He has so much to share , I hope that everyone listens. I really hope to speak with him myself someday. Great job sifting through the info and asking questions fern. ❤😊I am a mother of two very young boys. I strive and do take a stand for all children , myself and I try to for people in general.

[@allisonewens4036]

Gabor we r so privilege to have these talks u r giving giving to wake us up .. with physically health and biology so many solutions u give to educate to change our social behaviours from our biology our beliefs in understanding our social structures being the huge effects on our health and well being that's in crisis until we WAKE UP .. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for our part in it .....change our parts in it .. ❤ from fear to love to be in your own authentic self .. in wholeness

[@ruhied957]

Fern its not just Gabor...but you too who nailed this interview through your own honest, non overtly drama based approach of compassionate inquiry into the human behaviour and understanding the diffculties to change lifestyles.... ❤

[@angelamcculloch4135]

I'm in love. He is 80 and just incredible mind, heart and soul.

[@beautifultrauma3148]

Thank you Fearne and thank you Gabor.. always so educational and fascinating. Please mind your throat Gabor 🙏

[@mervijaakola1749]

Thank you for the words of wisdom 🙏

[@sunnygirl9691]

Most of the horrors are happening right inside people’s homes. Yes our greater society and cultures contribute massively to this. However, individuals choose to run their house in these ways that are so destructive to children’s emotional health.

[@sunnygirl9691]

@@robynhope219 you’ve got to speak up 🙏. I hope it’s not but otherwise do what you can.

[@elviavelazquezfajardo6251]

Genial Gabor. Los males del cuerpo son daños de mente y alma. Binomio a tratar. Mi admiración.

[@noreenjenny7039]

Brilliant, thanks much to both of you! 💕🙏

[@LashLoungee]

What u said at about the 24th min made me subscribe… I very much relate … Thx for this video! Amazing content ❤

[@NDivine]

Thankyou Fearne & Gabor !

[@lorettawalshhypnotherapy]

Such a brilliant podcast, well done Fearne. I love his work, Dr Gabor Mate, he is so refreshingly honest and right in so many ways on the aspects of our toxic of cultures, disconnected, more attention to one's health and your kids is key. The structures we have in society that does not serve us well, causing children and adults to stress, which can then develop to inflammation in the body mental illness or physical illness. Dr Mate gives such great words of wisdom and information backed up with studies carried out. I see this in my work, with treating clients using hypnotherapy, so many emotional wounds unhealed, and people feel lost on how to cope with emotional stress. Also I never knew we had in the UK a Minister for Loneliness, Tracey Crouch??

[@josel.martinez8649]

Reading books has improved my state of mind and I sleep better. 😊 Don’t care to know about anything to do with politics and avoid watching the news altogether.

[@mayhamilton6652]

That was amazing.

[@eljeer123]

Brother Gabor is the truth.

[@alanperez1122]

This man is helping me alot through hard times

[@joskinner1442]

Thank you this is great

[@debbiemcgarrity4716]

Great show fern well done ❤

[@anttijumppainen9213]

Nice, thanks!

[@georgejuncaj2700]

Love you both . Brings me back when I meet Mother Teresa.

[@MultiRyan26]

The coment about the children that spend allot of time with grand parents are healthier,is surely true 15 years ago ,but with the new spiritual war that is fragmenting community's and coming between familys,you cant go ahead adopting new idears if your cord is still connected to the old..grans and grandads.. Bit of a troubling time to navigate... Stay connected to nature and our inner voice that is telling us something isnt ok with the new worlds agenda..

[@sufdawg05]

Great podcast, you are a great conversationalist. Keep it up.

[@movingforward.]

This explains a lot.

[@bettinazwerdling9158]

Another wonderful, valuable presentation of healing and important healing ideas by Gabor Mate....and a capable, responsive, intelligent, and honest interviewer! I am struck by how Dr. Mate was having trouble breathing (kind of choking) during the interview (too many interviews? Something else?)....that is not getting dealt with by either of these people.. I wonder what that is about actually -- and what they might have done.

[@faithmanzini9987]

Thans that was very interesting

[@jmw402]

Dr. Mate, I am a mother who had little children at home for almost 40 years, there is 17 years between my oldest and my youngest child. Please speak to the stage of letting go when the child is ready. That transition is very emotionally difficult as well, help us do this in a healthy way.

[@leslieseale9761]

I love listening to Dr Mate. His work and insights into our emotional lives, particularly for traumatized people like myself. I just wish he would either stay in his lane re psychological issues, or when he criticizes our current capitalist unfair prejudiced culture I wish he could point out other countries or cultures that we can look to for guidance. I would like to think indigenous cultures are trauma free, discrimination free and live in this state of calm, and love. Has there been a past time with less trauma, or other non capitalist countries that have this resolved? Perhaps some of the more socialist Northern European countries, would be interesting to investigate their level of psychological trauma or not. The world’s population continues to grow, water is getting more scarce, but there’s less hunger. How do we get out of survival mode of living in this world? Any Big Idea solutions to our materialistic competitive world would be greatly appreciated as well.

[@theirishinventor]

Thanks fern and Dr Matte Life changing stuff....Auiwaska here I come even though I spelt you wrong lol

[@helenbostock2350]

He's great

[@robynhope219]

He is a charlatan

[@francescabaylin5551]

compassion ??awareness, ?? this man needed a drink of water, needed to pause and needed some care, He was in your house. !

[@frankstared]

Gabor, take a break. Rest your voice for a few weeks or months, even, and get better. Then and only then if you are well enough continue the book tour. Wellness first.

[@michkelly8994]

That’s rude

[@anonymouslyanonymous7883]

I think Frank is speaking from a premise of authenticity and care. It's not rude;just a concern especially for someone as spectacular as Dr G Matê. Truth is we can't get enough of him 😇

[@maevebutler4641]

Gifted author, doctor, teacher ect, sincerely hope he takes a while off the road to get a hard earned break away Absolutely love listening to Dr.Gabor Mate He is a world class speaker & a beautiful enlightened , humble human being

[@careynazyeustt5841]

Please look after yourself Gabor(also Fearne and everyone else too). Bless us all to know and do the best ways ☯️

[@janicehoyle3417]

@@otg1433 -your loss.

[@jmc8076]

@15:42 Once something is acknowledged it’s very hard to ignore. And once we know we can’t not know. Maybe easier for those with power and gen public to not see and or deflect?

[@daniellekerins1277]

🙌

[@jeanscott5927]

we need to change our whole health system to treating illnesses as to what the cause is and not just give a pill to ease the symptoms Its gone to making money instead of helping people we have a moral obligation to stand up and change things now that we know the truth

[@krisrobinson5919]

🙏 🌻👊

[@matmatt6568]

Please, I did not get what he said about Grandma's. Could someone translate it for me? What was the point he made about Grandma's please?

[@zoewhite897]

What if you have a sense of inescapable existential doom based on how you percieve external political or societal circumstances and how the relate to you? How do you deal with post traumatic catastrophizing based on things that have indeed happened in the past and are at least plausible to happen in the future? Open answers...

[@robynhope219]

The physical outcome of lifelong severe stress is H.P.A. axis dysregulation...severe fatigue, etc...i wonder why nobody ever mentions this? Puzzling!

[@tahsinfairooz5477]

But what other factors play into these correlations that you are suggesting here? What other endogenous variables play a part in these results?

[@heathersoper6923]

I asked my doctor, what can you do about my hand tremor? He sternly said, Nothing, ANYTHING ELSE? I was diagnosed with psychogenic tremor. I changed Doctors but went from the frying pan into the fire. I don't have a doctor right now, I'm doctor phobic.

[@robynhope219]

Mate couldn’t do anything for u...he is full of himself and offers nothing.

[@joanntuinier5781]

. . .trying to think critically about this as a woman. In regard to your stats on MS, have you taken into account the increase in the number of women in the population in general? It looks like the population increase in the US increased about the same amount as the quoted increase in occurrence. Where are the actual stats coming from? Also, you believe that genetics aren't the answer, but what about the chromosomal differences between men and women? MS binds to the X chromosome - yes? This would occur at a higher level that genes right? Yes, women HAVE been more stressed since the 1930s depression-Era, but I'm not yet convinced it's caused MS yet. I do believe, and feel firsthand experience that extreme stress can create an environment for things like cancer or heart disease to flourish. Thank you for all of your insights. I hope that they've helped me understand and improve my overall quality of life.

[@amothergoddess2774]

I CAN'T HEAR HIM!

[@robynhope219]

U DONT MISS ANYTHING!

[@kariyoung4021]

Everyone knows us moms are only hanging by a thread, and those narcissist fathers want fo keep draining us until we have nothing left. Nobody cares....there's nobody out here to help us. If there are resources, where? Because this society of coparenting is doing nothing but damaging this generation. We. Need. Help.

[@sss3rgi]

SHARE THE MEAL

[@renchemarais8419]

🙏🌎❤️🌍😍🌎🌎🌍❤️❤️❤️

[@Bandybear]

Don’t we change the world we live not the world changing us ? I was under the wrong impression because we should power to change the world not let us be lead by fear into a fraction of the potential we all could have become.

[@customisedcolouringcumbernauld]

👁✨️🧚‍♀️🌙💜

[@dnnsmtchll]

much better interview then the indian m d who goes on and on intelectualizing

[@AS-qj2lx]

!

[@ashleynicole5484]

35:15

[@sunshinencoastlines]

Doctors are not underpaid. Doctors are overpaid because they don’t have a clue how to actually treat. They are not trained, they are practicing, and it’s sad.

[@Bandybear]

I have a comment that will probably make me hated by everyone but I was considering the comments on autoimmune disease and minority groups. I have an autoimmune disease and I just realized the mindset of minority being not white but where I live I am very much minority. That’s not an issue for me personally but I thought about that’s statement and if it was true because I wansnr a minority right ? No I definitely should be considered a minority just not in the context that’s pushed these days

[@The_Reality_Filter]

Oh maaa gad this looks like MEGA LOLZ

[@izabelkakorimova7687]

Omyl.

[@MoMo-uj6xb]

from an italian point of you this sounds so odd. sit down a moment and get a cup of coffee with your mum would you? where are you english running? i'm scared it's going in this direction here as well, loosing fabric of family and human relationships and loosing sense of purpuse based on your needs and your intuition instead of a steryotipe to achieve or a rule to follow. slowly this culture is getting lost

[@Truthseeker371]

Why again women? This time and age, both men and women and others need to take care of our emotional needs. It's a myth every woman had maternal instinct. Some don't at all. Don't like this stereotypical classification. Just relax. Noone is insignificant or indisoensable. The world still goes around without us.

[@garfieldy7473]

WHY DOESN'T DR. MATE TAKE CARE OF THAT COUGH, SOME LOZENGES, HERBAL TEA, VICKS INHALER ETC., HIS INFORMATION IS SO IMPORTANT, C'MON DR. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

[@robynhope219]

I think he has an eating disorder. When he went to a coffee shop with Stanton Peele, he ordered nothing.

[@cristinagomez4047]

No entiendo un CARAJO Ndo

[@robynhope219]

Because he is a mumbler.

[@phylippapembrey9293]

Dr Gabor matè prince Harry's therapist.

[@robynhope219]

He has no medical specialty...he is no shrink, but likes to think so.

[@geraldinemccormick8635]

Please, this Gabor lad sounds as cray cray as harry Markle. Grow a pair...

[@abbieward4682]

You would probably benefit well from his teachings by the sounds of it, prime example

[@robynhope219]

If you're an avid reader and not camera shy, you could go on youtube and do what he does. No need for a med degree.