Game of Thrones 8x04 Jon Snow talks about his BIrth Secret to Arya/Sansa and Bran Scene

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[@kamillobumbum1]

and we should get that scene when he actually tells them...

[@jjh2456]

You don’t need it. Look the scene when they were all in KL. That’s you reaction.

[@Egobyte83]

@@jjh2456 No he's right. We deserved to see them flip out over it. Anything less was and still is bullshit.

[@stan2947]

its mine, BY RITE

[@186bingo]

Fucking D&D

[@L1Run]

Honestly surprised that D&D didn't do it. In the end they basically devolved into nothing but fan service scenes designed to make the audience spray their shorts and forget that the writing became complete sht. But for some reason they went coy with this scene.

[@doodooclowney1518]

This scene was honestly my biggest gripe about the show. The fact that Jon tells his sisters OFF SCREEN his true identify is an absolute disgrace to fans. An 8-year relationship told thrown away because the writers couldn't be creative enough to come up with the right dialogue. Freaking morons.

[@bluepower1177]

8 years?! The series started in 1996 my friend. All you “fans” of the show can gtfo 😂

[@Zomo1553]

​@bluepower1177 obviously talking about the TV show bozo

[@doodooclowney1518]

@@Zomo1553 He's not the brightest bulb in the box.

[@craighanson-rc1md]

LOL you think you are entitled to an opinion let alone that your opinion is more important than that of the person or people who actually created the story which led to a tv series & now spin offs. The only ending that's correct is the one the created it. And if the creative mind or those who wrote the script for the show feel a minute or two background on Jon's real heritage/secret was better on something else then that is their call & their decision is right. No matter who else thinks differently.

[@Zomo1553]

@@craighanson-rc1md wtf are you so angry about? People are allowed an opinion on anything? The show writers did not create the story. The only correct ending will be if Martin finishes the books

[@CommonSenz]

they did that off-screen.. ah Dumb & Dumber.. never forget, never forgive.

[@mrplow7645]

“I respect that” - casual modern dialogue stemming from lazy writing 👏

[@codedusting]

This. Wokeness destroyed the series

[@sumitchowdhury8589]

Only Arya kept her promise

[@travelyoja]

Chaos is a ladder. The wheel must be broken. Bran is still manipulating events.

[@DC-bi3pn]

You mean Raven? Bran is possessed by him. 'Best season ever' :D

[@jesuspardinas3874]

A normal handicapped guy would be more helpful than Bran.

[@debamlyabanerjee4067]

Like ivar in vikings he is also cripple but he is more usefull

[@miles3379]

@@debamlyabanerjee4067 I think Timmy from South Park would be more use.

[@ManuAccount]

Stephen Hawking 😊

[@datemasamune2904]

Arya: We need a word. Jon: Cheese. Arya: What? Jon: You needed a word.

[@vishnurajesh5239]

😂

[@elizeusantos93]

After That Jon talks to Daenerys and they come up with an understanding; Jon ruled the north with his sisters and remained heir Hair to the Iron Throne while Daenerys rules the six kingdoms with support of the true heir of the seven kingdoms. Lady and gentlemen; end of Game Of Thrones

[@fredlavin-crossley5731]

“I don’t need many allies” is the dumbest line

[@Rensune]

As some random magic assassin, sure, you don't "need allies" (though even thst sounds stupid). But as a Lord of a Great House? 😂

[@sabrinalecrivainmediaTM]

Sansa didnt everyone betrayed her since a lil girl.

[@raymondhsu6407]

Fitting for a skilled fighter her age though

[@officialthomasjames]

They turned Arya into an annoying “girl boss” the last 2 seasons.

[@poverty_sucks]

Not when you’re her.

[@christophertracy7136]

A secret Eddard Stark kept 4 17 years. We never see their reaction at the news but Sansa tells Tyrion in 17 minutes because she wanted 2 be Queen in the North! I'm finally rewatching the show from the beginning and in the 1st episode Sansa tells Catelyn I can be Queen, it's all I've ever wanted! Jon should've kept his mouth shut! Daenerys Targaryen begged Jon 2 never tell anyone because it changes people, takes a life of it's own and destroyed their 1 chance at happiness. That rage and emptiness of betrayal, losing Viserion, Jorah, Rhaegal and Missandei made her burn the city! Missandei's last word was DRACARYS! Then was beheaded. She's not insane, she won the last war and it meant nothing 2 her. Cersei woke the Dragon!

[@missym877]

Bruh you sound like a horny deranged fan. Dany was arrogant and went mad cuz she was corrupt by power. She’s not the victim of bad writing, Jon is. That’s it.

[@notknown6605]

Are you alright?

[@homosapien6031]

@@notknown6605😂

[@danielawesome36]

Serious: She told the secret because she didn't want Daenerys to rule. Or she just wanted Jon, her _family,_ to be King. The Northerners would rally to Jon if they ever found out that he was the heir to the Iron Throne, because they'd like a king with the blood of the Starks there. They'd probably be fine being part of the Seven Kingdoms again if that happened. Sansa wouldn't be Queen of anything then. It was all about deposing Daenerys, not Sansa being Queen. Daenerys never wanted Jon to tell anyone because all she's ever wanted was the Iron Throne, and Jon, as a male heir, is placed _above_ her in the line of succession. The only reason she didn't kill him was because she loved him and thought he was honorable to his words, and also because she needs Jon to control the North.

[@GreenC]

and they have this clue buried all the way from season 1 and did absolutely nothing with it. great job DB & DB

[@Unownshipper]

The last couple seasons did this again and again and again: crucial dialogue, emotional revelations, weighty scenes that talented actors DREAM of being given so that they can bring the text to life... all of them alluded to, but delivered off camera. Could D&D not think of the words without Martin there to hold their hands? Did they honestly believe it was better for the viewer to imagine it? This repeated practice suggests a scathing lack of talent on the part of the showrunners or an unjustified lack of trust in the actors.

[@wd3185]

"Arya's the one that killed the Night King!" Oh my god, that is what the White Walker story was reduced to. In one episode, it went from a pivotal life vs. death struggle into a fucking side quest.

[@haiderodriguez9190]

Bran the useless

[@paulbryan6716]

The writers are useless. George R.R. Martin is useless for having not finished writing the books. He is the laziest writer in history.

[@luuin]

@@paulbryan6716 *Patrick Rothfuss would like to know your location*

[@tobiasrinnert5044]

The whole thing doesnt make sense. John could just marry Danny. Both would rule, danny coild take the iron throne john the north. Done.

[@jjh2456]

Dany wouldn’t have gone for it as she didn’t want to share the throne.

[@Eliothzz]

Jhon would have totally obfuscated dany since a male ruler always had the stronger claim in westeros.

[@uv3284]

Danny cant give birth to any child

[@ChickenJoe12]

⁠@@uv3284and that’s based on what? The witch who tricked her into killing her husband? Daenerys was pretty naive when it came to that..

[@uv3284]

@@ChickenJoe12 read books

[@jsc3417]

1:30 Where are my two options?

[@smbi2115]

Both Bran and Arya is loyal. Sansa has great ambition that get the best of her as always. Jon is a king if many don't know, he is king of the real north (the wildings, first men). He is the king beyond the walls, the white wolf of winter. As Bran said "Jon is where he is suppose to be." Where Jon rules is where most danger lurks and he is the only one that can defend that broader as the greatest of them all. The king of ice and fire, controlling the best fighters and most determine people as well as, Dragon (fire). Drogan knew Jon was the rightful king but he himself knew that Jon rule isn't that throne. Bran is only the king by name to hold order but he knew therion is a better leader so he had it to him. Therion is the leader, Jon the warrior, Sansa the ambitious and calculus queen, Bran the three eye raven/king who see and know all and Arya the faceless God who is powerful than Bran.

[@davidrussell7105]

I wanted to see their reaction. I felt robbed we didn't get it. I especially wanted the girls to realise how their father protected his sisters son. How he took the pain and anger of his wife on the chin, and how he allowed his honour to become tainted by doing so.

[@joshestrada2230]

She's the mother of dragons. I fought her by her side when I met her and her dragons.

[@brandonhamilton833]

They needed to show this. It would have shown how his sisters felt, maybe even how Branden felt. They straight cut it all. Wtf

[@user-gu9mf6kz8b]

Kudos to Sansa Stark for upgrading all the outfits of her siblings. The Stark family style in the last season was the most regal and grand.

[@leuger]

where's my "NANIIIII???" scene?

[@alistairrae9807]

It should be pointed out that as Tyrion and Jamie both have a claim to the Iron Throne due to their sister being Queen and Sansa is technically married to Tyrion they never had their marriage annulled so they could have thrown their support behind Tyrion with Sansa being his wife just pointing out

[@mahmoudahmedshalabi]

"Her dragons". Don't make me laugh! Dany had two dragons after the Night King killed Viseryon, and only one dragon after Jon (Aegon) bonded with Rhaegal by riding him. There should have been more of a story surrounding Jon's rightful Targaryen parentage in the show, as I'm sure there will be in the books. Once they come out 😭

[@raycash4310]

And y’all thought this was better than Lord of The Rings and Last Kingdom.

[@steveperez178]

I never thought that, but it was a great show through the first 4 seasons.

[@officialthomasjames]

It used to be significantly better than both of those up until about season 6.

[@sauravroychoudhury7853]

Arya says i swear it Sansa said- i swear Know the difference

[@Nugget721]

Urgh man watching any scene from season 8 just annoys the crap out of me. I wish we could just delete s8 in its entirety. I’d rather had been left on s7 than have the show ruined like this. They don’t even talk in the ancient way sounds like I’m watching a modern drama here. Awful 😣

[@BeaSt-iw1rs]

All war and fight just for usless king Bran😂😂😂

[@saugatabhattacharya7188]

Nothing in Season 8 made sense 😢 and even now it doesn't make sense

[@kusali11]

People love reaction videos, this is insane, why leave out the reaction, at least the reaction.

[@goan1413]

The screwed this show and the fans so hard the last season. What a disgrace

[@terrydouglas5008]

Sansas swear wasn't very conviencing.

[@pvd9085]

"we needed her" literally 20 seconds later "that's alright, I don't need many allies" What. The actual. Fuck. Is that writing?

[@TrackerRoo]

The same writing that took Tyrion's witty banter and gave us an incredibly dumbed down "smart guy." When this show went off the rails it really went off the rails. Everyone deserved better, the characters, the actors, fans, deserved better.

[@several.]

@@TrackerRoo Nah, Arya is so badass from going blind that she doesn't need allies, except for the Starks having 8 other houses in the north, and Arya herself, literally having an ally at every single story arc.

[@anonymousnation5235]

All Targeryean children in ASIOF universe had hair color like their father's. But Jon has his mother's hair. Way to create chaos through exception.

[@TrackerRoo]

None shall escape the dark hair color of the Stark line.

[@PhynnlyJak.]

@@TrackerRooliterally all of their hair in the books apart from Jon and Arya are more red like Catelyn. The reason Jon and Arya have the black hair is to represent Lyanna - not Ned. Arya is described as reminding Ned of Lyanna. Jon is her Son. Literally nothing to do with being a Stark at all

[@jhart3983]

In ASOIAF novellas, GRRM told stories that explained that the white hair was a defect from incest. Along with this defect was also the madness. Not all Targaryans had the white hair, only those who were defective. GRRM told about relationships with Targaryans who went outside their family, and they did not have the white hair. GRRM explained that procreation with other families strengthened their blood and fixed the defect--hence the Dorne children in the novella and Jon Snow (Targaryan and Stark). As soon as I read the description of Dany and her brother in the book, I knew they had the madness and was just waiting to see if it would be triggered/manifested. If you read Dany's story, it was there all the time. Yes Dany had hurt but she would dish out the same kind of hurt to others. Shes also a hypocrite. For example, she called herself a liberator of the people from Tyrants, yet she could not accept or forgive the people who rebelled against the mad king. She wanted vengeance on them. She called them an usurper but the Targaryans got power by usurping in the first place. She conquered and usurped power. (The crown through conquest as opposed to birthright.) The As much as people may love Rhaegar, he didn't do what was necessary to stop his father. It is horrid to read in ASOIAF the most gruesome, horrid things the mad king would do to humans for pleasure, he enjoyed torture and public displays of it. The scene described by GRRM, in the courtroom of the mad king, and what he did to Ned's brother and father (who were good men and only asked for an audience) was so terrible I almost stopped reading. There is no wonder the people rebelled and said that's enough. If Rhaegar was so wonderful he would have stood up to his father and deposed him or did like Jamie and kill him. But he didn't. He helped him. He helped him retain his rulership so not all was right with him.

[@elefantbajstvatusen8625]

Baelor Breakspear had brown hair from his Dornish mother, as did Rhaegar's daughter, Rhaenys. Also, her namesake, Rhaenys "The Queen Who Never Was," took after her Baratheon mother's black hair; Jon being the sole Targaryen to inherit his mother's features isn't true at all. The only reason most Targaryens even had their signature platinum hair and purple eyes was due to inbreeding, with both parents having platinum hair, not because they inherited their fathers' features.

[@judymyers9867]

I understand why but Sansa broke her oath to her king and family she shouldn’t been crown queen of the north she no better the Jamie as a oath breaker

[@Unownshipper]

Sansa was written badly in the last couple seasons. She comes off as jealous of the pretty, popular Targeryean girl, she casts aside the courtly cunning she developed to help her survive as a prisoner in King's Landing, she abandons her kindness and humanity, and betrays her family. This isn't character assassination, this is creating a character divorced from the events that lead up to her growth and evolution over the first several seasons. Without Martin to guide her character development, it was put in the hands of dolts with a clear inability to write a female character.

[@sjewitt22]

How did Jon find out?

[@jde-jj1lu]

Sam revealed it to him when they reunited in the crypt of winterfell

[@tag4995]

ur choice: traitor

[@miles3379]

Watching back clips of this reminds me of how dumber and dumber destroyed years of my life. Whoever made the decision that we didn't need to see their reaction and discussion about this revelation needs to be given the Ned Stark treatment.

[@FreeMusic54]

i hate this. i hate every second of season 8. after all these years this scene triggered me so much. it is unbelievable. that rage. that aggression in me. fuck off D&D

[@nd7]

They skipped or speeded up some of the most important stuff and showed and slowed down a lot of the stupid stuff

[@magatrone100]

Such poor writing

[@axelamps1279]

Yes, GoT is famous for poor writing...

[@garrymcdonald5456]

@@axelamps1279 yes season 8 is very famous for poor writing and it proved that those two guys were hacks which many thought they were from the beginning, without source material they were hopeless.

[@venicesurfer]

@@garrymcdonald5456 Jon: I need to tell you something....Also Jon: Bran tell them

[@truebeliever786]

Dany did everything for the North and look how Sansa and Arya both just dismiss her. It's just disgusting and Jon should've been stronger in calling them out on it. At the same time, he should've called out Dany on her b.s. instead of just going with "Ur My KuWeEn".

[@aishahamma334]

Honestly sansa is a hypocrite. You swear an oath and break it. Ned kept the secret for almost 20 years but there is sansa spilling the secret like less than a hour after swearing it .She has become Cersei. Will do anything to be queen

[@kartikkantheti5690]

Arya "thats all right. We dont need any allies". Thats exactly wht Grejoys, Umbers, Boltons, Karstarks ruined your house. What dimwit comments

[@MadScientyst]

Jon: "You have to swear it..." All: "FUCK yeah!" All: "What's da fuss about now?" 🤣🤣🤣

[@cosmictravelor]

Years of watching the show and , "THE MOMEMT" of climax turns into a ruined orgasm. It made no sense. All the material the writers had to work with to wrap up the All-Time story suddenly flickers to a $3400 month government check ad!????? WTF!!! The show comes back and re-tunes without a word of WTF faces!!! I don't know why anyone would sabotage their own show? The very end with Jon Snow trotting off beyond the wall when he is the king???? That would NEVER happen under my watch.. After all the crap I sure as hell wouldn't let a gimp in a wheel chair bid me adieu and send me off on a boat. That sh*t wouldn't happen and the seven kingdoms will be mine and I would bask in all the spoils and glory. Oh, yeah, daddys home!

[@folarinsode9261]

Sansa did not keep her promise. She is as useless and selfish as always

[@joelturner5957]

I hated the stark kids in the end especially Arya bro she was so up herself dumb n dumber ruined this show jon was spose to be the one but noooooo Idiot writers wanted to move on to other projects so they rushed the last season 🤦‍♂️

[@Clavitz1]

well that a big thing with "expect the unexpected" trying to thwart the viewer's expectation which I see is why Arya killed the Knight King rather than John.

[@colinwebb3660]

I'll never forget how awful the last few series of this show were. The North remembers.

[@piscesman74]

What a shit show it turned into. Sad

[@Anon_Fox]

They butchered most of these characters. I like Sansa’s character development with her becoming strong like her mother. But then immediately after this she tells Tyrion like an idiot. Arya is just this robot killer with no emotions. And bran is a robot vegetable that doesn’t do anything significant the whole season. (Chilling in a chair for no reason as the night king comes 😂). Jon being moved to a useless side character “MUH QUE3N”. wtf man

[@Alexanderthepraised9]

Sansa can’t be trusted at all

[@matthewsnoogans4693]

Bad writing 101: Arya: We don't need many allies. Arya, not 30 seconds before: Arya: I respect that. we needed her, we needed her dragons. Oh.... so you fucking needed allies then, you awful god damn writers?

[@machan2k6]

Who the f is Sansa ? Jon is a traiter. Afterall it was Danny all the way. Some freakin twist to lose the heroin from the story.

[@Unownshipper]

Don't blame Sansa, blame the writers. She was so badly handled in the last couple seasons. She comes off as jealous of the pretty, popular Targeryean girl, she casts aside the courtly cunning she developed to help her survive as a prisoner in King's Landing, she abandons her kindness and humanity, and betrays her family. This isn't character assassination, this is creating a character divorced from the events that lead up to her growth and evolution over the first several seasons. Without Martin to guide her character development, it was put in the hands of dolts with a clear inability to write a female character.