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The Old Powers are Waking Part 6
Garth Greenhand, the Fertility God-on-Earth and his godly bloodlines
Theories and analysis of A Song of Ice and Fire using text evidence and quotes from George RR Martin.
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@kylpyvene
@kylpyvene 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone: "He was a god. He had the powers of gods, his children were pretty much what youd expect from god's children. He was a furtility god" Maisters: "HE WAS A HUNTER OR A KING"
@ShadeoftheEvening
@ShadeoftheEvening 6 жыл бұрын
He's very similar to Pan. There's also a Gaelic/Irish myth that shows depictions of THE GREEN MAN. Same beard, flowers, and women!! I have one hanging in my garden. Y'all r so great!!🐺🐲💟🌹🐙😍❄🌞🌠🔥🐊💗
@Maru-et6of
@Maru-et6of 5 жыл бұрын
9:55 "it does mention the possibility of Garth being a darker deity" Offering up your own daughters to get "deflowered" (in big quotation marks) is already plenty dark imho
@gumersindocebollero3261
@gumersindocebollero3261 7 жыл бұрын
Garth demanded blood sacrifices? Like the Weirwood trees? Could it be that when he died he went into the first Weirwood Tree?
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
we have been trying to figure out where he went, but there is no information available
@seeranos
@seeranos 7 жыл бұрын
The name of The Reach might refer to the extent of the reach of Garth's Green Hand. It seems many of the Gods and heroes and forms of resurrection are strongly tied to regions of land (and sea).
@ashleyofnaath
@ashleyofnaath 7 жыл бұрын
Now for my GOT related comment. I'm not saying there's a 100% correlation here, but the passage quoted about "young girls flowered at his smile" reminded me of Melisandre bleeding from her loins at the sight of Bloodraven in her flames. Seeing as the old powers are waking, a lot of them through Bran w/Bloodraven's assistance... I have to wonder if that situation w/Mel is an example.
@johnathankinne3998
@johnathankinne3998 7 жыл бұрын
Ashley of Naath a good possibility for the first men renouncing their gods in favor of the children's is that they saw Garth as an aspect of the gods worshipped by the children and the common ground made them feel comfortable. They are both gods based off nature that require sacrifice.
@calebnemrow2677
@calebnemrow2677 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the God of fertility and agriculture also being the patron God of mankind, seeing as humans are one of the few animals that have a form of agriculture Edit: thanks for the like!
@AnotherGuyProductions
@AnotherGuyProductions 6 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the little girls who got their first period from him smiling at them...
@thisguy8106
@thisguy8106 7 жыл бұрын
I was starting to worry about the Wolf's Den. Was going to call my banners and head that way soon..
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
we appreciate the concern of our favorite gamer...we were a little under the weather and wanted to wait til our voices sounded better to record the audio so people wouldn't feel like they were getting a cold from listening to us
@jonjones7739
@jonjones7739 7 жыл бұрын
lol ill commit one of my sons, armor up and ride out with you, if my eight year old daughter gives her consent. House Jones is really really small but each of us fights with the strength of several gamers with high XP
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
hahahahahha....I'll definitely keep that in mind Sir Jon of House Jones
@robbypodobinski824
@robbypodobinski824 7 жыл бұрын
Jon jones773 u from chicago?
@jonjones7739
@jonjones7739 7 жыл бұрын
originally from long beach, CA but yes, i am currently located in chi-raq
@TeaBarful
@TeaBarful 7 жыл бұрын
It's interesting, that all of the descendents of Garth Greenhand founded houses in the Reach...except for Brandon the Bloody Blade :) Your videos are the best! :D
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
it is isn't it...thank you so much
@chadsummerchild1120
@chadsummerchild1120 7 жыл бұрын
Heavy with seed, spreading seed, seed that never runs out. More like Garth Green Seed
@dams6829
@dams6829 7 жыл бұрын
I dont like sand. Its rough, course, irritating and it gets everywhere.
@jsull81
@jsull81 7 жыл бұрын
Chad Summerchild damn Chad, this is the second video I've seen you on today, lol, you must be reeeeealy pumped for the high priced fan-fi..i mean the awesomely perfect show, huh
@nickkoch3467
@nickkoch3467 7 жыл бұрын
I fucking hate you, Chad
@devonbush81
@devonbush81 7 жыл бұрын
this guy!
@jeffjohnson8681
@jeffjohnson8681 7 жыл бұрын
Garth Greensac Sire!
@BulletHole
@BulletHole 7 жыл бұрын
woa woa woa, i have to pause at the 7:00, men offered up their virgin daughters to this king, he begot many children, who in turn had lots of children, in fact a strong portion of they people we have met are descended from this one many. he lived so long ago most of his life is told as legend so we dont really know much about him, he traveled the land spilling over his deeds upon the ground, he changed every society he visited, they either died or followed him and his cause, he was an inclusive man but a king is still a king therefore must punish, noble blood is held in high regard, bastards are raised as sons, equal be separate., acknowledging merit, turned nomadic peoples into states with stationary and constant occupation............. who did i just describe?
@BulletHole
@BulletHole 7 жыл бұрын
Answer: .... ..... Genghis Khan
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
that just made me think of khal drogo too. hmmm
@FilipCordas
@FilipCordas 7 жыл бұрын
Come on we all know Garth was and alien. 'Greenhand' or little green man. I think I can explain this whole thing. Marklar, these marklars want to change your marklar. They don't want Marklar or any of these marklars to live here because it's bad for their marklar. They use Marklar to try and force marklars to believe they're marklar. If you let them stay here, they will build marklars and marklars. They will take all your marklars and replace them with Marklar. These marklar have no good marklar to live on Marklar, so they must come here to Marklar. Please, let these marklars stay where they can grow and prosper without any marklars, marklars, eh or marklars.
@ranica47
@ranica47 7 жыл бұрын
Filip Cordas I remember that episode, classic!
@malmorbidus2788
@malmorbidus2788 7 жыл бұрын
Def gotta take everything from TWOIAF with at least a grain or two of salt it's a biased work, against magic and I have a snaking suspicion the Targaryens as well. Best way for Citadel to kill the talk of magic is make previous dragonriding kings look like dump while simultaneously bolstering the Baratheon reign.
@jonjones7739
@jonjones7739 7 жыл бұрын
you guys outdid yourselves again this is epic and so enlightening. i love a lot of your videos the Machiavelli of westeros is genius, your catlyn sucks videos are strong arguments and entertaining as hell . but these old power awakening series are truly epic, ive watched them all so far and even had trouble following where you intended to go with them because they seemed to rather jump around but todays video ties them all in and its truly awesome. thank you for the upload
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
we are a little guilty of doing them in the order that most interested us instead of putting this one out there to set up the baseline for where we were going...we were talking about it last night and I think I might put this one 1st in the playlist, or at the very least before the Sword of the Morning video
@craig8612
@craig8612 7 жыл бұрын
Jon jones773 - yeah I'm still wondering what all this has to do with Khal Drogo. Love every second of it tho.
@markhayes3523
@markhayes3523 7 жыл бұрын
How many more old power episodes will you do i am really anxious for that ashara video
@lilibetp
@lilibetp 6 жыл бұрын
At the beginning, you refer to Garth's ancestors when I think you mean his descendants.
@Jockeylotforfun
@Jockeylotforfun 7 жыл бұрын
OHHH! snap! I know I'm not the only one who says this when the video ends! BEST ASOIAF channel on youtube, sincere thanks, love QOT.🌹 🌹 🌹 👏 👏
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you QOT
@tylercote3072
@tylercote3072 7 жыл бұрын
Yeahhh if you guys could stop making me whisper "Oh fuck yeah" under my breath at my work desk, that'd be great.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
I'll see what I can do about that
@agnibasnet8050
@agnibasnet8050 7 жыл бұрын
and from the loins of garth sprang forth the order of the green hand so ripe with information.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
hahahhaa yes
@zenar6420
@zenar6420 7 жыл бұрын
I prayed to the old gods and the new for a new video everyday since the last! Thanks so much. I am always looking forward to ur videos.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zena!
@stefiz
@stefiz 7 жыл бұрын
Why can't your videos be longer!!!Thanks for working so hard!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
sorry...when we are making them we never know how long they're going to be until they're done, or when we realize that we don't have time to do a topic justice, we have to end with cliffhangers because there is no sense in partially explaining something in a video when its clear that we would need a whole video to explain what we're thinking
@stefiz
@stefiz 7 жыл бұрын
I just wish you had a thousand more videos😊 I've watched most of yours at least 3 times😍 The Order of the Green Hand is my favorite GOT channel. Thank you again for your hard work and entertaining theories!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
thank you so much...I wish we could figure out a way to make more than we do
@bostark7722
@bostark7722 7 жыл бұрын
I've read the books I've watched all the episodes, yet i embrace the ASOIAF school that is The Order of the Green Hand...cheers
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :D
@undarkwin
@undarkwin 7 жыл бұрын
A man needs an endless "The Old Powers Are Waking" series. Be merciful, and never stop doing what you guys do!😊😊😊
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
hahah we won't! thanks so much
@theinvisiblewoman6783
@theinvisiblewoman6783 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t help but draw a parallel between Garth Greenhand and the Dagda of Irish Mythology.
@booknerdlover3675
@booknerdlover3675 7 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE your videos and look forward to each one. This is the first I've seen of Garth Greenhand. Your videos and views are different than most (esp. the "Why Catelyn Sucks" series - because most almost glorify her) and that's what makes each video so interesting. Keep up the amazing work :)
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
We independently research everything and have paid very little attention to other people's theories since the end of our first read a few years ago...at that point, we were unsatisfied with the answers other people had provided to questions we had, and having no idea when TWOW was coming, and we lack the patience to wait, so we decided to try to figure it all out ourselves
@nickkoch3467
@nickkoch3467 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't know much about Garth other than some general info, really found this insightful. Can't wait for the next one!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
+nick koch thank you Sir. Garth was one of the first legendary characters from history that really caught our eye
@jsull81
@jsull81 7 жыл бұрын
I never gave two shits about Garth Greenhand(even after awoiaf) but after watching this video, I can't fucking wait till next week! lol nice work guys, as usual
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lord Commander
@tehn3085
@tehn3085 7 жыл бұрын
Keep em coming, please. You guys go more in depth than most ASOIAF channels. Love these. Thank you
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tehn! You're the best! :D
@phoenixrising573
@phoenixrising573 7 жыл бұрын
Just listened to this again, and had a thought... Does Garth Greenhand's fertility, passed down through his children, give the real reason behind the Rite of the First Night held to even today by the Lords of First Men ancestry in the North?
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
we thought about including that in the video...it does seem to make a lot of sense
@csuderburg8389
@csuderburg8389 7 жыл бұрын
Just when things get really interesting, we are stranded in suspense! Yikes! May the fecundity of Garth Greenhand multiply your video output. :)
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Lady Green Hand works at a school so she has summers off...Garth has blessed us with more free time to make videos
@csuderburg8389
@csuderburg8389 7 жыл бұрын
Great news! Can't wait for more videos. And what do we say to the God of School? Not today.
@sjowns100
@sjowns100 7 жыл бұрын
I have got to say the content you two put out is remarkable and you deserve more recognition for sure
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@estherqholland4923
@estherqholland4923 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Watched your vids. Love them😍. It gives more clarity to the caracters. Thank you. Loved the tulip fields from Holland Blessings🙏🏻✨ and ❤️ from Holland🌷
@t0nyt0ka302911
@t0nyt0ka302911 7 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I've always been intrigued by Garth Greenhand and the many ancestors that come from him.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
he was one of the first legendary characters from history that we took a serious interest in...we thought he was a God back when we did our king's blood video but hadn't done all the research we have now and weren't sure enough to go for it in that video so we felt like we needed to revisit it
@JDizz1010
@JDizz1010 7 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best and the worst. I LOVE all your videos, so enlightening and by far the best content out there. But how are you going to leave us with a cliffhanger like that????? Also I commented before that Mel's actress said in an interview that The showrunners told her that Mel is over 200 years old which is too old to be Shiera Seastar. Was wondering if you had a chance to look into that further into that?
@MrScottie301
@MrScottie301 7 жыл бұрын
Garth the PLAYA!!!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
hell ya!
@johnnydancer2665
@johnnydancer2665 7 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for your return. I follow many other sites but yours is my favorite. Always the best GoT videos. Thanks for your time and effort.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching
@craptastiko6513
@craptastiko6513 5 жыл бұрын
When you guys extend the metaphor about the "seed bag" bein Garths gnads I picture a dude rolling down the glen w his balls in a wheel barrow.
@thomasj3701
@thomasj3701 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this will get seen but I'll ask anyways. This video got me thinking, where did surnames come from in this world?
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
that is a very good question...it seems like the First Men surnames were somewhat descriptive, but as for the rest I have no idea
@bethqmount1160
@bethqmount1160 7 жыл бұрын
The seed is strong................. "where you think it is, it ain't " ~ ida Rolf
@jimmybates6071
@jimmybates6071 7 жыл бұрын
Man these videos are so passe. Where's the awesome conjecture? I keep waiting to find out if Ned Stark warged into one of those pigeons that were waiting to take a shit on his head as it was being nipped by Ser Ilyn Payne. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised. Incendiary videos! I keep waiting for others to change their' theories but with conjecture like I mentioned, why would The L*#t yprah even try. Ya guys shit is tight!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir Jimmy of House Bates...much appreciated
@capitanspoiler7393
@capitanspoiler7393 7 жыл бұрын
so Garth walked around with a super soaker? XD
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
exactly
@ExileOnDaytonStreet
@ExileOnDaytonStreet 7 жыл бұрын
Devil's Advocate: what if the tales of Garth and other Age of Heroes type people are merely tall tales from a time when record keeping wasn't that great?
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 7 жыл бұрын
1...Let's do this
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
I think I might have just figured out what your numbers mean
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 7 жыл бұрын
I love numbers
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
that is something I totally understand...that's why it was driving me crazy that I couldn't figure out what yours meant
@EvanSol919
@EvanSol919 4 жыл бұрын
We know of some of the gods the First Men worshipped before taking the children's gods. In the story of Durran Godsgrief there was the god of the sea and the goddess of the wind. On the Three Sisters there was the Lord of the Skies and the Lady of the Waves.
@tylerbarrett6652
@tylerbarrett6652 Жыл бұрын
That pact... was just an agreement to worship the old gods in front of the Weirwoods.... NOT the weirwoods themselves... and NOT the gods of the children of the forest (unless the children also were worshipping the old gods). It wasn't long before things were conflated and the first men began to take up sacrificing to the weirwoods and regarding them as some sort of representation of the old gods themselves. Seriously, if it's between the god of the living and the god of the death... it's hard for me to think that ALL the children are actually worshipping the god of death. I mean... they are living creatures, after all. I think it's more like achieving a balance between chaos and order... but like anything, polarization happens and pits people against each other. Tastes great/Less filling... lol. Half Full/Half Empty... Something has caused the natural order to be WAY out of balance... and that must be due to the effects of the "magic" in GRRM's universe.
@theneverendinghighway
@theneverendinghighway 7 жыл бұрын
Can a god truly die? The Maesters are up to something in this story. They have their own agenda. Could Garth still be alive, but imprisoned and incapacitated someplace?
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
answer coming in Bran the Builder's video
@coralblake9868
@coralblake9868 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Father Time, sleeping beneath the mountain. On the day he wakes the earth dies. But death is just the beginning as destruction is the start of rebirth, as the end of winter is the start of summer.
@kylewade58
@kylewade58 7 жыл бұрын
I've watched this again after re-watching the series. I know you guys dive more into the books than the show. but I think the showrunners pay homage to what Martin was wanting to do or is going to do. Like what I asked about with Mance & the sword of the morning in the show. There looks & what they said. "I wish you good fortune in the wars to come" It's like he new the great war was coming. In the first season it was said many times about Jon Arynes last words were "The seed is strong"... If the Green Hand literally was the ancestor too all the houses that have been fighting would be so ironic. Including Targaryens... This is the Adam & Eve with a lot more Eves of The Song of Ice and Fire! Also Lady Crane in season 6 another shout out nice! Oh yeah I forget... How many bastards did Robert have 20 something? How many great houses are there exactly?
@kimberlytucker5047
@kimberlytucker5047 7 жыл бұрын
Woo hoo,green letter day.
@systemofafox6487
@systemofafox6487 7 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of your content!! I'm so hyped for Bran The Builder!!!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Us too!
@Hala10-7
@Hala10-7 5 жыл бұрын
I am listening to this again and something just occurred to me. Is it possible that the Green Men on the Isle of Gods are the clergy of the First Men? I am assuming because their name is "green men" they are somehow connected to Garth the Greenhand.
@rheeventures8144
@rheeventures8144 7 жыл бұрын
absolutely brilliant video excited about the detailed breakdown that was amazing to add! can't wait for next one....
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lady Rhee
@artostheimplacable4095
@artostheimplacable4095 4 жыл бұрын
Brandon of the Bloody blade + Rose of Red Lake = Ultimate power couple.
@RodrigoPaulaRodrigues
@RodrigoPaulaRodrigues 7 жыл бұрын
yandel is a kind of anagram for lynda & elio.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
good catch!
@RodrigoPaulaRodrigues
@RodrigoPaulaRodrigues 7 жыл бұрын
The Order of the Green Hand thanks! speaking about anagrams i don't have any particular interest about this character but gendry also is a kind of anagram for reign with the addition of "d". what do you think?
@surfbreak190
@surfbreak190 7 жыл бұрын
Wonder is Brandon the bloody blade is the Nights King? Least in the show.
@mtgirl73sg
@mtgirl73sg 7 жыл бұрын
I had to take a hiatus from KZbin but I have been tempted back. Nicely done video, as usual. Maybe the fertility of Garth is related to the idea of the first night, and the chance of spreading the seed, which is apparently strong! I also find the polygamous marriages interesting and I think there might be more of that which was practiced by the first men before the Andals and the faith put the kibosh to it, as well as blood sacrifice! Looking forward to more more video's from you guys!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you...good to see your name pop up again...we had a similar thought about the First Night
@moostyberghein4725
@moostyberghein4725 7 жыл бұрын
Take my like, take it!!!
@ashleyofnaath
@ashleyofnaath 7 жыл бұрын
Omg...am I first?!!!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
close enough
@armyofninjas9055
@armyofninjas9055 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, guys. Always glad to see a new one.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@RabiRose
@RabiRose 7 жыл бұрын
So... if "young girls flowered at his smile", did young boys grow some balls in his presence? Or is this just another case of gender objectification? -.-
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
You're kidding right?
@AmySoyka
@AmySoyka 7 жыл бұрын
So, Garth the Greenhand is Rhllor? Makes sense - because Rhaegar died in Autumn and Danaerys was born in Spring. :)
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought of that...I'm pretty sure Rhaegar died in the spring...its never actually implicitly said, but harrenhal happened in the year of the false spring, and seasons last years in this world so I feel like it still would have been spring when Rhaegar died and maybe summer when Dany was born
@EDDIXspider
@EDDIXspider 6 жыл бұрын
GRRM the one true god in wast and west :)
@tulkas42o22
@tulkas42o22 7 жыл бұрын
you fuckin people you two. ..i mean....damn. how the hell did one stone lead to a mountain coming down the side of my face. I don't know how you took the folklore and flipped it on its side. i am greatful, for those that sing the song of the earth. you drive me wild like beatles mania
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you...we do what we can
@DeadRepublic
@DeadRepublic 6 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who noticed that the first knight existed long before the Andal scum showed up? What oaths did these ancient knights swear I wonder?
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 жыл бұрын
the Andals are liars...they're the ones who brought the new language to Westeros, and recorded history the way they wanted it to be
@chirhoiota885
@chirhoiota885 7 жыл бұрын
1:36 in and I'm on the edge of my seat. This is such a great channel!!!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@gogozeppeli9267
@gogozeppeli9267 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting info 😲
@tooslow4065
@tooslow4065 7 жыл бұрын
so does this confirm that the gods of the world are real? do you think garth was one of the gemstone emperors?
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
I believe it does...we haven't quite worked out what if any Garth's relationship to the gemstone emperors is
@whitleypedia
@whitleypedia 5 күн бұрын
Garth is like Johnny Appleseed and Tom Bombadils child
@jimboy3625
@jimboy3625 7 жыл бұрын
Wow got in early today! I was the first Like
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
way to be Sir Jim
@rheeventures8144
@rheeventures8144 7 жыл бұрын
I am pausing before I watch. clicked to see date seen mention of earthly god and stopped. I just comment on another channel ongoing conversation and it was asked what was so special about the Starks. this is something that has occurred to me recently I want to share before I watch this. and ty for last video I needed a muse I was stuck on painting :D. .. OK now basically my reply is that starks are descendants of gods or demigod maybe along that line as well as targaryen. I think season may even go as far into not being related to the dragons cuz wouldn't the argument be made that all the years with Supposedly no dragons (I believe there are more another conversation ) it should have been winter the entire time. but if we think of it like the bloodlines of starks/ice and Targaryen /fire and their numbers we see why we still had seasons. people put too much science into it when it's fantasy. this is a magical world would make sense too if a demigod or descendant of a god or reborn even would be the balance his blood his bloodline. I can't wait to watch this now had to share my madness with you. I think all elemental gods represented and you guys been nailing it!
@Jockeylotforfun
@Jockeylotforfun 7 жыл бұрын
Rhee Venjenz Wow, exactly what we were talking about prior to the release of their video. Great minds? pretty incredible wasn't it? Love QOT.🌹
@rheeventures8144
@rheeventures8144 7 жыл бұрын
The Lady Olenna Tyrell they're right on point! I seen the notification no joke as soon as I finished typing comment on the other lol I swear they're in my head over here but I'm not complaining at all. Thanks to waking the dragon last time helped unblock my artist block I needed a muse to finish a painting of Dany and they unlocked my mind but they are great at that anyway. I Love this channel! And she is a doll! Nice people both.: ) was crazy weird tho huh ...my lady a pleasure as always ; )
@Jockeylotforfun
@Jockeylotforfun 7 жыл бұрын
Rhee Venjenz, it was weird coincidence. I found the "hands" @ 6k subs and loved them, started shares on sites ect. they deserve 500k at least! I Adore the in depth exam of the books and great conversations here. A lot of friends here. Love QOT.🌹 🌹 🌹
@leonthecool123
@leonthecool123 7 жыл бұрын
U know work about to be lit when I see you guys videos pop up.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
thank you sir
@FraJa1980
@FraJa1980 6 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to this specific topic of Garth but sometimes i worry that, after all this time, with all these awesome theories and legends within ASOIAF we either will never get to know 90% of it or if do, the actual events and stories will be nowhere as good as the theories. On a brighter note, your videos are fucking brilliant!
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell 7 жыл бұрын
Let me be first let me be first!!!!!
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell 7 жыл бұрын
DAMN IT!!!!!
@yensid4294
@yensid4294 7 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying your videos & your channel. I'm a huge mythology/folklore nerd & unfortunately haven't read the GOTs novels but enjoy the show. I know I miss much of subtext & rich fantasy elements of the books. Your videos fill in those blanks for me. And it's wonderful to know someone else saw similar themes of light/dark & chaos/balance of Egyptian mythology being so prevalent. You guys are doing a wonderful job♡
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
we first caught the mythology stuff when we started researching Bloodraven and weirwoods...at that point we had just started piecing the religions together and were convinced they were vitally important to figuring out what the heck is going on...we were about 90% sure Garth was a god when we made our king's blood video but couldn't place what the significance of it was until we got into the mythology aspects of the story
@TYTfan
@TYTfan 7 жыл бұрын
LETS DO THIS!
@Alexrider02
@Alexrider02 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, this series is just getting more and more interesting. I am so loving these videos.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@i2amasecrettarg737
@i2amasecrettarg737 7 жыл бұрын
Psyched!! Thanks guys for your awesome efforts! 👍👍
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for watching
@Wo0ody
@Wo0ody 7 жыл бұрын
Don't mean to criticize, but did you mean Garth's "Notable ancestors" or "Notable descendants"? Also, Garth reminds me of Johnny Appleseed. Or maybe it should be the other way around. Thanks for another informative video. I do not have the history book about TWOIAF you discussed, and so your insight into it is especially interesting to me.
@reconstructo
@reconstructo Жыл бұрын
George gets this from the legend of Osiris, the Inventory Stela from ancient Egypt shows how Osiris founded Egypt, and lives thousands of years. Yet he’s also a God.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 5 жыл бұрын
Oakenshield! Another name taken from Tolkien character! Yay! And I only noticed on what must be my tenth watching of this video... Which just further proves that what you two do is amazing!
@siscahormansyah
@siscahormansyah Жыл бұрын
I have a lingering question for quite a while. If the particular book titled The World of Ice & Fire were written during the Lannister's peak power why it's called the world of ice and fire? the maester yandel or gildain would never thought such title will have so much impact in the wise timeline. That's why at first I thought the book were written after the event of the dream of spring, meaning the war for the dawn 2.0 already happen and won over. That's why these maesters name the book with such title. If it is written in the current timeline (maybe align with book 1-3) why they mention "ice and fire" in the title? what correlation they have with those elements? as if the people of the seven kingdoms will care or have knowledge about it, unlike us who are all fascinated by the novels, therefore familiar with those "ice and fire" thingy
@angelajansons9037
@angelajansons9037 7 жыл бұрын
I think the real villain is the TREES. The weirwoods to be precise. What if Garth "woke up" the trees, like the elves with Fangorn forest? Martin loves Tolkien, so what if the weirwoods don't serve the children, rather the children serve the weirwoods? And what if the first wars started with the trees being cut, so the Ents of Martin's world, sent the children and the giants and animals to fight for them? What if the weirwoods could think and want and plan, just not move? All MEN must die...
@lifeisbutadreamm
@lifeisbutadreamm 7 жыл бұрын
somebody on here is a really big secret Order fan, lol, they always dislike the video within the first couple minutes, you didn't even have enough time to watch the whole video!! lol... as always, love getting my OOTGH fix haha
@PBRStreetgang
@PBRStreetgang 7 жыл бұрын
Not my type of slaying :) Nice touch.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
+PBR Streetgang I was hoping people would get it
@PBRStreetgang
@PBRStreetgang 7 жыл бұрын
...and I'm starting to think I am the only person that does. Possible game-changing ramifications to the terms kinslayer and Kingslayer when applied to the text. Eagerly awaiting the next installment of whatever you guys are working on! Edit for bad grammar.
@Spartan155
@Spartan155 7 жыл бұрын
Garth gives off a strong king Arthur vibe to me. especially given the world of ice and fire description of him being maybe based upon an old watchief or petty king of some kind. That's virtually the exact same archaeological explanation as king Arthur has in real life. a great king who reigned over all thr tribes, plus the map of westeros and esos is a very distorted great Britain and Ireland type of landmass. You have the Britons fighting off a Saxon invasion in Arthur and you have a first man invasion in got so it's many of the same details just shuffled around There's also a bit of the Greek God Dionysus in there. that may be worth looking into as well; including the greenman deity/legend from northern Europe. that matches the "darker god" the green man died and was reborn each year and served as a fertility symbol.
@vana.johnson8845
@vana.johnson8845 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the Hightower family was the ones in control of Oldtown and the close relationship with the Faith. Why would Yandel care if the Lannisters be displeased about anything written🤔?
@Duffren
@Duffren 2 жыл бұрын
Garth Greenhand is such an easy myth to dismiss. Oh, so all the houses that are currently prominent in the Reach just so happen to have similar godly origins? What a coincidence! But to accept these claims as fact, and then to cast them against the upcoming battles creates a whole different viewpoint that is just as likely. Who better to represent Life than family of The Gardener King?
@AhSageHumor
@AhSageHumor 7 жыл бұрын
Another well-researched video! P.S....fecund has its emphasis on the first syllable.
@pattyc.4978
@pattyc.4978 3 жыл бұрын
Writing a fan fiction (because why not), and I am going through lol these video because I want to get the ancient magicks and powers right. This is just quality stuff lol
@TheThezenith
@TheThezenith 4 жыл бұрын
Garth was in all likely hood not a god. I really dont think these are stories to be taken literally, he was probably a dude who settles down starting the agricultural revolution and had SHIT TONNES of kids giving him a legendary reputation that spiraled out of control. I mean if his tale is to be taken literally one of his daughters spoke to the queen of all bees. I think that he probably did have a magical nature about him covered up by the citadel but not a godlike power
@spencerleek
@spencerleek 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the human story: agriculture societies pushing out hunter-gatherer tribes. The religions changed because the lifestyle and life lessons changed.
@paulusrafaelis4337
@paulusrafaelis4337 4 жыл бұрын
Ykow, people tend to glorify ssimple things with time specially historical events like the migrations, with time the stories get more and more vague, most likely Garth Greenhand may have been just a Lord of the First Man who led them in the first wave of migrations and that had many sons, just that a common First Man lord
@bradwolf07
@bradwolf07 Жыл бұрын
I'm all down on the theory that Garth WAS a Fertility gawd... and his seed was exceptionally strong
@yimlee5140
@yimlee5140 6 жыл бұрын
you guys are full of info and i would really like to see a prediction video for TWOW by you guys...Don't worry, you got time to do it since winter is still a long time away...
@itaipee
@itaipee 7 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that most likely Garth figure is union of several kings named Garth. Like Brandon the builder.
@123vict5
@123vict5 2 жыл бұрын
So bran the builder might be the product of incest between two demi god half siblings? That might explain his own unnatural long life?
@davidhenderson441
@davidhenderson441 7 жыл бұрын
thank for the upload I always find you'll videos and channel has the most interesting theory/ideas makes me wonder if you'll have some inside information.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 7 жыл бұрын
I wish we had inside information...we definitely use every scrap of publicly available knowledge we can get our hands on though
@dustinsaunders314
@dustinsaunders314 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't the soil of the vale suppose to be the most fertile soil in Westeros but they just have far fewer lands than the reach? That's just what I'm recalling
@charlesbrown3251
@charlesbrown3251 7 жыл бұрын
this video is amazing. if Danny is already dead what happens when she goes north of the wall; can the night king warg her? can she become the night queen?
@VidyaSimran
@VidyaSimran 7 жыл бұрын
y do Harlon & his twin brother look like Chris & Liam Hemsworth 😂
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