Sonic's 900th Comic | Sonic Speed Reading

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@SillyBoi_handle
@SillyBoi_handle Жыл бұрын
It's crazy that this little hedgehog has ballooned out to a massive fanbase and lore that would take a new fan YEARS to fully comprehend. It's so cool the brought back some of the past comic writers and artists.
@Cosmik60
@Cosmik60 Жыл бұрын
Lore so big they needed an employee who's sole job is cleanjnh up the lore
@SillyBoi_handle
@SillyBoi_handle Жыл бұрын
lol @@Cosmik60
@Hazel_TheOne
@Hazel_TheOne Жыл бұрын
@@Cosmik60I wish I was the sonic lore guy :(
@Shonin23
@Shonin23 Жыл бұрын
@@Cosmik60no. A whole team of people
@Cosmik60
@Cosmik60 Жыл бұрын
@@Shonin23 Lore so complicated that just one guy wouldn't cut it
@ExcelHedge
@ExcelHedge Жыл бұрын
11:00 Honestly while 06 story was canceled out it still makes sense for Sonic to recognize Soleana's present day locations, the game ended with Sonic visiting Soleana for the festival. And who says he didn't explore the city and surrounding areas. 😂
@wisccheese9257
@wisccheese9257 Жыл бұрын
I mean even after that, didn't Ian said only sonic and select few knew about the event
@smugsneasel
@smugsneasel Жыл бұрын
The old city that the Egg Mazinger is in is likely a reference to Robotropolis' outskirts in the Sonic OVA. The Egg-Mech here reminded me of Metal Robotnik instantly when I read this.
@anonbefallen4807
@anonbefallen4807 Жыл бұрын
Yooo so I'm not the only one who thought of the OVAs! Nice
@KingRumar
@KingRumar Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The scene where we find out Tails is afraid of Lightning and they have their first showdown
@certifiednobody
@certifiednobody Жыл бұрын
Technically it's not Robotropolis, it's the Ancient Relics, Robotropolis is nearby the sunken NYC.
@thedarkest9
@thedarkest9 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is 100% the OVA city. Has Nick never seen it before?
@GiggleFist720
@GiggleFist720 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one seeing it.
@RadarTheManedWolf
@RadarTheManedWolf Жыл бұрын
6:10 I can confirm that 900th Adventure doesn’t take place after Frontiers. IDW Sonic (for right now, since Ian and Evan had said that Frontiers will influence the comics in the future, so post-Frontiers IDW stories are inevitable) is still set after Forces. Ian did confirm that 900th Adventure (as well as Endless Summer) takes place after the Urban Warfare arc (aka the Eggperial City takedown). *Spoilers for anyone who hasn’t read Endless Summer btw* Sonic mentions he’s saved the world 900 times in Endless Summer when talking to Jewel, so that comic takes place after this one. And since Endless Summer is supposed to take place after the Misadventures arc (the current arc, which Endless Summer references Issues #63 and #64), the same goes for 900th Adventure. 9:04 I originally thought the urban location was the closest thing we’d get to a “canon Ancient Relics” from the Sonic OVA, but Daniel Barnes confirmed that this is just an Abandoned City somewhere on Earth. *Spoilers for anyone who hasn’t read Issue #63* And no, this isn’t Station Square. The city is okay post-Perfect Chaos! Back during interviews of Frontiers, someone asked Takashi Iizuka what the state of Station Square was and Iizuka confirmed the city rebuilt itself after the massive flood. However, the residents are still afraid of Chaos and do not forgive it for what it had done. And this fact said by Iizuka is confirmed through IDW Sonic, where Issue #63 showed one of the places Sonic and Blaze visited prior to visiting Spagonia being Station Square. Sonic and Blaze went to the Casino Area’s Clothing Shop right across from Casinopolis! 11:06 Nah, nah, you got it right, Nick. All good!
@ef-jkota3611
@ef-jkota3611 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the summary!
@TheIDcard123
@TheIDcard123 Жыл бұрын
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@SwordMaster3000
@SwordMaster3000 Жыл бұрын
Chaos be like: WHY ARE YOU BEING SO MEAN TO ME??!!
@SonicBoss1991
@SonicBoss1991 Жыл бұрын
Why hi there!
@christopherford39
@christopherford39 Жыл бұрын
​@@SwordMaster3000the citizens: Yiu flooded our city and almost killed us
@hattoripool1533
@hattoripool1533 Жыл бұрын
Im genuinely suprised they actually bought back the writers from Fleetway’s Sonic the Comic. Like holy crap the last time Nigel Kitching worked on something Sonic related was Exit: Sonic for Sonic the Comic Online serving as a distant future finale
@negativesymptom1110
@negativesymptom1110 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s entirely possible sonic still went to the 06 locations on his own time after the events of the game were reset. We see he still went to Soleana so I think it’s not too out of the question.
@mcmistle9892
@mcmistle9892 Жыл бұрын
Even if I wasn’t over the moon with what was presented here, this really did feel more like a glorified annual than a celebration of Sonic’s comic history.
@EonTheAien
@EonTheAien Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It was a fine standalone issue, but a few more references, easter eggs etc to other Sonic comic adventures would've gone a long way to making this feel like a celebration of Sonic as a comic medium instead of, as you put it, a glorified annual.
@HEMPHILL23
@HEMPHILL23 Жыл бұрын
And yet the California unions get what they want...
@Turai12
@Turai12 2 ай бұрын
​@@HEMPHILL23Good.
@Kibui
@Kibui Жыл бұрын
This sums up my opinion on this issue perfectly - it's a wasted opportunity that they weren't allowed to play around with the other continuities (not even a little) but I am so glad so many creators that care about this franchise got together and could give us such a fun comic even with the limitations they had
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 Жыл бұрын
Would have loved to see some of those old continuities get their time to shine. Especially Archie since they’ve lasted three decades with the series under one title.
@carso1500
@carso1500 10 ай бұрын
​@@rayvenkman2087if anyone expected that Sega was really going to allow Archie to be anything other than at most a cheeky reference by one of the artists or writers they really need to temper their expectations, Sega ignored the existance of Archie for 30 years and have done more to recognize IDW in a fraction of that time, Archie is not going to come back or be referenced
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 10 ай бұрын
@@carso1500 IDW did a Marvel GI Joe: A Real American Hero continuation under their brand. Sega has referenced the stupid Sanic meme in Forces. They’re both making nods to the most obscure parts of Sonic history with the scrapped characters and giving Fang a miniseries before Blaze does. We just got a Mephiles figure by Jakks. I know as long as IDW exists with the license, nothing from Archie will be acknowledged. But then nothing from Fleetway are acknowledged and both make up the bulk of the comic amount. You forget Sega didn’t acknowledge Ray or Mighty for years barring some nods until Christian Whitehead brought them back in Mania Plus and because it was popular, they couldn’t neglect them. A game not even made by Sonic Team. Archie Sonic had lasted almost three decades and Ian Flynn wouldn’t have a career without it. “Temper their expectations” You think we’re not aware of that ourselves? We all know how getting Sega but mostly Sega of Japan to actually acknowledge anything they didn’t create is pulling teeth out of a hen or getting Toei to realise that putting up an expensive licensing fee for international distribution and being really stubborn when it concerns releasing their old library of works plus refusing to provide those people with best quality masterprints. There’s no figuring out how Sega operates as a company and their thought process half the time.
@carso1500
@carso1500 10 ай бұрын
@@rayvenkman2087 the difference is Ray, mighty, fang, etc are all from the games, Sega acknowledges stuff from the games even old stuff (specially old stuff, it gets them brownie points and it brings nostalgia, not saying i don't enjoy those references i do but it's what it is) Sega ignored the existance of Archie for decades and now they have a comic that they have complete control over where everything is carefuly decided by them, Archie is not coming back, for better or for worse
@hydrixaquatic8833
@hydrixaquatic8833 Жыл бұрын
9:10 I feel like the Eggman Robot in the abandoned city is a nod to Metal Robotnik and Robotropolis from the OVA. While the mech designs aren't a one for one match, it is neat that we once again get to see Sonic and a Mecha modelled off Eggman once again duke it out in an abandoned city!
@rosalesandy1r
@rosalesandy1r 9 ай бұрын
Was thinking the exact same thing 👏🏼👏🏼
@OmarRodriguez-pj3qy
@OmarRodriguez-pj3qy Жыл бұрын
Crazy that it was only last year that Spider-Man, one of the greatest franchises of the comic medium got its own 900th issue and Sonic just a year later reached the same milestone. Not even a comic book character in origin and 29 years younger than the Spider-Man franchise.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark Жыл бұрын
The fact they brought in one of the UK writers was a great touch.
@AnimalXing
@AnimalXing Жыл бұрын
It’s, frankly, a flawed premise I’m surprised the team wanted to tackle. There was no way they could include what ACTUALLY helped make the franchise hit ‘900’ adventures, so I’m surprised they didn’t try a different angle, or better yet something different. But for what it is, the art is stunning!
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 Жыл бұрын
I don’t need it to be a massive Continuity crossover, but I think it would’ve been cool if there was a Scene we is the warp Topaz is really freaking out and open up a portal right below sonics legs. The hedgehog, then proceeds to fall through several dimensions, resembling several Sonic Comic runs: Archie, Fleetway, the French Sonic Comic, and heck why not throw in a reference to the Sonic Boom comics? I’m not saying, we have to see sonic interact with any of the exclusive characters from the series, just show him briefly pass by those dimensions: maybe bump into some iconic location for a brief second? Perhaps have a blacked out shadowy silhouette of a character from another comic series? Just something like that.
@TheStickAnimatorFrFr
@TheStickAnimatorFrFr Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to see you here👀
@kingsombra4053
@kingsombra4053 Жыл бұрын
From your rant it sounds like you want your cake and eat it to, you acknowledge that it's great the comics are canon yet want it to break out of the consistency that allows it to be canon. The IDW comics have been introducing characters, bringing back past characters (mecha Sonic) and so on, while yes it would be great to give writers free reign, consistency must remain for it to be canon. The one thing I can agree with is it would be interesting to see Sonic go to the other worlds throughout the multiverse (Archie, fleetway, etc)
@wakeangel2001
@wakeangel2001 Жыл бұрын
For the Mazinger boss fight against Eggman that COULD be the ruins of Station Square, but given the context it might be a reference to the "ancient civilization's" ruins in the land of darkness from the Sonic OVA. Given how that scene was an homage to the Robo-Robotnik fight from that movie I feel like it would fit better that way.
@GBlastMan
@GBlastMan Жыл бұрын
I think, that the abandoned wrecked city is a homage to the "Ancient Ruins Zone" from Sonic OVA, it clearly has the look of that specific version of "New York" since it was canon on OVA's lore that long time ago the human population nearly got wiped out and the survivors escaped into the "Land of the Sky" leaving the surface of the world to become "The Land of Darkness" including the Ancient Ruins being what remained of the current day civilization at the time the movie was released.
@mephilesfan
@mephilesfan Жыл бұрын
11:22 In the japanese version of Team Sonic Racing, Sonic asks Silver: “What happened to your energy from when we first met? Weren't you all like, "I will destroy you!”? Silver, of course, states that he has no recollection of this and Sonic quickly changes the subject. I think it’s an interesting point to bring up, especially with all the 06 acknowledgment we’ve been receiving recently, that Sonic remembering 06 may be a part of the canon now
@deltaxeno7807
@deltaxeno7807 Жыл бұрын
Y'know, given he was there when Elise erase Solaris out of existence, and thus was kind of outside of the timeline, it's not too far out there.
@Spazy912
@Spazy912 Жыл бұрын
Also sonic generations
@mrcwillis6970
@mrcwillis6970 Жыл бұрын
Incredible we are at the 900th, overall a real nice adventure celebrating the adventure of the blue blur. 💙
@restlesscentral2692
@restlesscentral2692 Жыл бұрын
9:05 Not sure if this is official or not but my mind went immediately to the Dark Lands from the Sonic OVA, idk the presence of a large Eggman Mech and a ruined city backdrop just gives me huge Sonic OVA vibes and I'm here for it!
@adampozzobon5193
@adampozzobon5193 Жыл бұрын
"An adventure with Blaze and Cream" is literally just Rush - Cream took the role of Blaze's Tails in that game
@deniseg9210
@deniseg9210 Жыл бұрын
From what I heard come issue 75 there will be a time skip that will have the comics taking place after Sonic Frontiers. It doesn’t really tell if this story takes place after Frontiers but I still find it interesting nonetheless.
@ExcelHedge
@ExcelHedge Жыл бұрын
If it means we'll get more SAGE content, I'm all for it.
@deniseg9210
@deniseg9210 Жыл бұрын
@@ExcelHedge heh yeah me too buddy. Me too.
@ManagerBlackwood
@ManagerBlackwood Жыл бұрын
Huh...where did you hear that ? Legit curious :0
@deniseg9210
@deniseg9210 Жыл бұрын
@@ManagerBlackwoodI believe it was either in a comment or community post from a KZbinr called MarioKartGamerDude.
@Magicghost23
@Magicghost23 Жыл бұрын
It’s tripped up along the road but this franchise is still running strong.
@natoriousthehopeful2786
@natoriousthehopeful2786 Жыл бұрын
You know it's kind of crazy that Sonic the Hedgehog has had 900 adventures: time surely has flown by at Sonic speed 😎 And speaking as a rush fan, my heart was very warm seeing blazing cream team up again: I hope they bring that sort of energy back to the games as well 💗
@dangerzone4994
@dangerzone4994 Жыл бұрын
I think that old City is actually a reference to the Sonic OVA, specifically where Sonic and Tails first run into Metal Robotnik
@Fanatic_Foremem
@Fanatic_Foremem Жыл бұрын
Further references that me and some others put together there WERE references they're just way more subtle than we expected: 5:31 very reminiscent to Archie throwbacks like the first genesis wave, and sonic X, with simple green hill and showing sonic interact with it on a 2d plane 6:45 VERY remincient of how one of the special zones were depicted in evans ghost of the future, specifically the special zone where Scourge was trapped in, you might argue its just a fan comic but... 8:06 Reggie Graham being the colorist here is a PERFECT pick, as they have done art for the fan continuation StCOnline 9:16 Clearly the darklands from OVA 10:20 I think this is supposed to be reminiscent of AoStH with how colorful it is and Blaze being a responsible big sister to cream parrelelling Sonic Sez with Sonic and Tails 12:35 Bablyon Rogues and Team dark in a treasure scramble plays out much like the many plotlines in sonic universe, which if it had a main cast it would probably be those two teams 14:00 ending in a cave seems to be a call back to the old Knothole base from Archie, since that's arguably where the comic adventures "all began"
@Keepcalmandcupcakes
@Keepcalmandcupcakes Жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly, there's almost a little wink and a nod in the very last cutscene of Sonic 06, that Sonic perhaps remembered the events of the story. It was always my head cannon that he was the only one who remembered because he has affinities for special energies or whatever.
@Epee2134
@Epee2134 Жыл бұрын
I think the abandoned city with the Eggman Mazinger mecha might be a reference to the Sonic OVA, where the abandoned city was below the Land of the Sky, in Eggman's Land of Darkness.
@spsaofficalchannel
@spsaofficalchannel Жыл бұрын
I wish we could just get big ol collection books that put everything in chronological order for Archie like we are for IDW… it’d be great for old fans that just want to read these stories without having to dig up their old comics and look up a reading list and it’d be good for new fans that wanna read it for the first time!
@Blazio
@Blazio Жыл бұрын
Sadly will never happen, i at least wish they had printed the rest of the archie volumes when it got cancelled, I think they stopped right before vol. 4 champions
@dreadthemadsmith
@dreadthemadsmith Жыл бұрын
Justice for Rings. But really, it was nice getting to see all these game characters in one comic.
@bluephoenix4241
@bluephoenix4241 Жыл бұрын
Well, I can still believe Sonic still remembers Tropical Jungle since he was still in Soleanna for the festival after they blew out Solaris's flame. Plus he's Sonic, who's to say that he didn't explore the areas around the place afterwards?
@alexmcneill6445
@alexmcneill6445 Жыл бұрын
I do wanna say that the ending of Sonic '06 DID imply that Sonic retained his memories of the events despite Elise erasing the events. However, future games DO also imply if not outright state that Sonic definitely remembers the events (I THINK even Generations had Blaze curious about Crisis City, having some familiarity with it but nothing definitive but I'm going off memory on this one). In the Japanese version of Team Sonic Racing, Sonic has some curious words for Silver at Haunted Castle: - Sonic: You've come all this way from the future so let's just take this chance to enjoy a race! Silver: You're right... There's no point in getting concerned now... Sonic: Heh! What happened to your energy from when we first met? Weren't you like, "I will destroy you!"? Silver: I don't recall ever saying anything like that...? Sonic: Well, the race is about to start! Let's rock!" - Of course, I say ALL of this knowing that the Rivals duology exists sooo... *shrug*
@zg5850
@zg5850 Жыл бұрын
yeah i was 90% sure that sonic remembers 06 as well. which im guessing was only because he was the one to blow out solaris' flame
@johnman8398
@johnman8398 Жыл бұрын
TSR is a racing game which has no bearing on the main games so its still debatable whether or not if sonic remembers 06 at least in the mainline games.
@alexmcneill6445
@alexmcneill6445 Жыл бұрын
@@johnman8398 TSR is as canon as the Riders series. They may not be mainline games but they happened in canon. TSR's main M.O. was using the game to expand on Sonic's world after all. It'd be weird for it NOT be canon.
@johnman8398
@johnman8398 Жыл бұрын
@@alexmcneill6445 Neither are canon. Even if TSR's goal was to expand sonic's world it doesn't mean it canonically took place. It'd be weirder for it to be actually be canon.
@leonardoalvarenga7572
@leonardoalvarenga7572 Жыл бұрын
@@johnman8398 It is canon.
@donaldwright8567
@donaldwright8567 Жыл бұрын
The wrecked city from the Orbit & Cubot story might be a homage to the one in the OVA movie where Sonic, Tails, & Knux fight Metal Robotnik.
@SaddieMoon
@SaddieMoon Жыл бұрын
I love the box art based on Sonic 1. If anyone asks me what I mean by Shadow and other modern characters can keep their modern proportions but be put in the Classic artstyle, I point to that cover.
@spooky1997
@spooky1997 Жыл бұрын
9:20 Im not sure but the giant mech combined with the ruined city reminds me a LOT of the Sonic OVA when they went to the Land of Darkness and fought Metal Robotic
@sumstoopidcreator
@sumstoopidcreator Жыл бұрын
9:03 I think the abandoned city might be a reference to the “ancient relics”/ abandoned city in the land of darkness from the sonic ova but idk they do look pretty similar
@JapanFreak2595
@JapanFreak2595 Жыл бұрын
10:42 Blaze and Cream were a duo in Sonic Rush, so it was really cool to see them together after all this time.
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 11 ай бұрын
Says "pecking order". DBZA fans: *Scared of Mr Popo's training noises.*
@canon3723
@canon3723 Жыл бұрын
It was slightly misleading to present it as #900 when it was in actuality a celebration of the game canon and history, not the comics. It bizarrely didn't even include IDW characters, despite them being canon to the games, though I suspect it was to avoid accusations of bias from fans who hoped to see the Freedom Fighters and Sticks. (Really though, we know Sticks is canon, when are we gonna' see her show up Ian???) However, I don't think it's quite accurate to call it the "cost of Canon". The ability to expand and celebrate the Sonic canon as successfully as Ian Flynn has is extremely commendable, and frankly one of the biggest selling points of Modern Sonic (IDW, Frontiers, etc.) for me. Any shortcomings of the issue come solely from legal and licensing hurdles, not Flynn abiding to continuity. It was still IMO a fantastic issue that kept a smile on my face from start to finish. Highlight was Cream and Blaze finally getting to adventure together again. Cream is Blaze's 'Tails' and I hate when this is forgotten!
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 Жыл бұрын
Apparently, while the events of 06 were retconned out via time-travel, Sonic and Elise are shown to still remember it (at least vaguely).
@MilkshakeSkunkette
@MilkshakeSkunkette Жыл бұрын
I 200% agree with your gripe with this issue- as cool as it is, to be able to claim 900 issues... but then actually ignore the archie and fleetway characters- especially in a portal hopping adventure- feels incredibly deflating. I was looking at every spoiler page for this issue to see if this wouldve been the issue wed see these old characters and canons again... but so bummed out when it had... nothing from those past adventures ._. When would be a better chance? The 1000th issue-?
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 Жыл бұрын
I get it when Scourge, Elias and them from Pre-Reboot Archie can’t be used but there’s little reason to acknowledge everyone else that aren’t under legal dispute. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sega of Japan had said no to the western created characters because they’re the reason we don’t see the likes of Sally anymore. Transformers can acknowledge Marvel, Sunbow, Dreamwave, IDW and all of the other canons even today without shame.
@MilkshakeSkunkette
@MilkshakeSkunkette Жыл бұрын
@@rayvenkman2087 its such a downer ;_; i still hold out hope see the FFers again, even if the odds are stacked against 'em
@Xenodragon
@Xenodragon Жыл бұрын
Why we couldn't get more Archie love? Reason starts with a K! But seriously 900, that's pretty bloody impressive for the blue blur, so glad the collaboration happeened, the art looks crisp and awesome.
@OnDavidsBrain
@OnDavidsBrain 28 күн бұрын
8:58 Well that and Mike Pollock voices both Eggman and Dr Hell in Mazinger Z infinity.
@shadic1988
@shadic1988 Жыл бұрын
I think the big drawback is more that Sega has Sonic be the big focus when in some cases he shouldn't have to be. Yes you can always have him be the big point, but it wouldn't hurt to have Shadow, Knuckles, Rouge, Amy or even Blaze have a bigger focus.
@anthonychessar7179
@anthonychessar7179 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, after about 900 comics, I didn't expect everything to be given spotlight. This current comic is doing the best it can even with the many restrictions it has. Restrictions that mostly wouldn't probably be there if it weren't for all of Ken Pender's absolute bullshit a decade ago. Sega still hasn't recovered from his vile sting and a good amount of The restrictions are simply just not wanting to do what he did. He ruined a beloved comic, all because he was to greedy about something he didn't really care about that much. He didn't want to make a Sonic comic, he wanted to make HIS comic.
@LegoMiester14
@LegoMiester14 Жыл бұрын
I literally purchased my first Sonic Comic book at Barnes and Noble yesterday. And now this happens. That's plain awesome!
@GiggleFist720
@GiggleFist720 Жыл бұрын
@9:05 I’m fairly certain that the beat down city is supposed to resemble Robotropolis from the Sonic OVA. That would line up as it’s the same place Sonic ran into Metal Robotnik for the first time.
@savingthrows719
@savingthrows719 Жыл бұрын
This all-star cast of creators working on 900 did make me wonder, if Sega would've reached out to Greg Martin to do a piece of cover art. I like to think they would've if they could and that warms my heart.
@GameApologist
@GameApologist Жыл бұрын
Hate to be the one to tell ya but he passed away in 2014. Tracy's cover is as close to emulating that original American style as it was gonna get!
@savingthrows719
@savingthrows719 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Tracey's art is a lovely nod to everyone who was a fan of his rubber hose art style.
@SMPandanic
@SMPandanic Жыл бұрын
9:05 I think this city is from the 90's animated sonic movie released in japan and later got an English dub (the place where tails says an iconic line "AHH I'm afraid of lightning) its the OVA I just forgot the name
@SaddieMoon
@SaddieMoon Жыл бұрын
11:18 Colors DS and Generations also has Blaze and Silver remember some 06 events. And Elise recognize Sonic a tiny bit, I guess, at the end of 06. After the timeline reset. (Silver only was shown to have memory fragments of Sonic 06 in Colors DS)
@aidanhammans9337
@aidanhammans9337 Жыл бұрын
Hold up. Rush DS happened before all that. How could they remember stuff that hadn’t happened yet.
@SaddieMoon
@SaddieMoon Жыл бұрын
@@aidanhammans9337 *Colors DS Thanks for catching that for me.
@deltaxeno7807
@deltaxeno7807 Жыл бұрын
Contrary to the replies, either way, Sonic 06 is pretty much a prequel to Sonic Rush. Remember, Blaze outright mentions trapping herself in the Sol Dimension when she sacrifices herself.
@archmagetyler
@archmagetyler Жыл бұрын
20:11 even shadow is allowed to be used in memes~
@DewMan31
@DewMan31 Жыл бұрын
On the topic of the limitations of idw, I kind of agree that you can only do so much with the characters we already have. When I think of the best parts of IDW, I think of the metal virus and Imposter syndrome arcs. They're examples of out there ideas that really pushed the characters in the situations they found themselves in. Metal virus pushed the stakes and made one of the darkest official stories and the trio of Surge, Kitsunami, and Dr. Starline really highlighted and explored the philosophies of Sonic, Tails, and Eggman while being compelling characters in their own right. New characters offer new opportunities for storytelling and new ways to look at previously existing ones, so it's up to sega to decide when they want to add said new characters and how much they want them to impact the world. Also, the name reading at the end was incredibly funny. Your fans are great😂.
@king_deez
@king_deez Жыл бұрын
9:16 I think this is supposed to be a reference to the ancient city in the dark world of the Sonic OVA
@samuelrodriguez9801
@samuelrodriguez9801 Жыл бұрын
Actually, Blaze and Cream met in the Archie Comics during Treasure Team Tango.
@yungmuney5903
@yungmuney5903 Жыл бұрын
Sonic continuity is beyond saving at this point.
@MrSkysenGames
@MrSkysenGames Жыл бұрын
5:33 I'm with you. More game elements in the comics! I wanna see Rings, people! If they're still needed in the games, they're needed in the comics!
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 Жыл бұрын
10:52 personally, I think that is speed jungle from sonic superstars
@GBA64
@GBA64 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is awesome! I love these comics so much.
@cheetahofthewind13
@cheetahofthewind13 Жыл бұрын
Im happy i managed to find this yesterday as it was a real fun read and i especially loved the sonic and blaze segment as rush is what got me into the series
@sonicspeedstersyt2765
@sonicspeedstersyt2765 Жыл бұрын
Ain’t this the city where robotnik set up of base in sonic OVA
@SoranotRoxas
@SoranotRoxas Жыл бұрын
Man, can't believe they brought in the Fleetway guys. That is just amazing 👏
@the-point-bearer6689
@the-point-bearer6689 Жыл бұрын
Considering that they only did some tongue-in-cheek callbacks to Sonic’s past history, and yet not all of them were made to be there, I may give it a read for one time.
@Bofrab
@Bofrab Жыл бұрын
I kinda like how Shadow tells Sonic to give him the Topaz. Based off his face it doesn’t seem like him being aggressive or angry, but more of him being like “An ultimate life form would have a better handle on this topaz, so give it to me so I can sort this out.”
@antonissa8345
@antonissa8345 Жыл бұрын
One thing I wonder is what consequences Mimic's infiltration will have. Maybe he sabotages some tech that will affect an future story. Maybe he severely injures someone. Maybe people will loose faith in the restoration. Maybe Lanolin's guilt will affect her decisions Maybe even all of them
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia Жыл бұрын
Now we just need to get to issue 1000
@benogle4951
@benogle4951 Жыл бұрын
Orbot saying big oof is something I never knew I needed
@Jimbo_Jam
@Jimbo_Jam Жыл бұрын
at 9:10 i think i know what it is! it seems to be the city from the land of darkness from the OVA, as seen from the vines, the buildings, and just the overall vibe of the place
@DarkAngelBluejay
@DarkAngelBluejay Жыл бұрын
I felt the abandoned city might be referencing the OVA and the "Land of Darkness"
@blackfox4138
@blackfox4138 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it's gonna be some time before the bad taste of Archie is removed from Sega. My hope is that, over time, they start slowly but surely trusting more writers and artists to begin doing their own thing. Now this could easily lead into the melodramatic soap opera that comics turned into, but hopefully eventually there will be a nice equilibrium between corporate oversight and artistic freedom. For a time at least.
@RJthegreat.
@RJthegreat. Жыл бұрын
The City shown in 8:53 is the abandoned city where Sonic, Tails, And Knuckles Fight Metal Robotnik In the OVA. I assume the robot shown there is a refrance to that
@ProjectFallenLeaf
@ProjectFallenLeaf Жыл бұрын
God sonics ART IS SO FUCKING GOOOOOOOD these people know anatomy
@WebstersYouTube
@WebstersYouTube Жыл бұрын
My take on Sonic 06's canonicity is that, while time travel shenanigans did take place, the people at the heart of it remembered the events. They were aware it all got blipped. Also, love love love seeing Kitching and Elson back on Sonic, even if they didn't get to work together. Nostalgia bias talking, but I think the greatest creative team, and greatest milestone, belong to Sonic the Comic 100. That had Nigel Kitching and Lew Stringer writing, Richard Elson, the late great Nigel Dobbyn, Roberto Corona and, oh hey, Nigel Kitching on art duties, the mighty John Burns on colouring, Elitta Fell and Tom Frame lettering, all with Deborah tate as editor. It's a shame that Elson had to redraw Tails. He always had such a distinctive take on the little guy, which is probably why Sega had issues.
@-sollarz
@-sollarz Жыл бұрын
Seeing the fleetway sonic stuff gave me nostalgia, here in the UK in the 90s it was harder to find any sonic archies but i had afew. I had mostly STC.
@SaddieMoon
@SaddieMoon Жыл бұрын
5:30 Fun fact, Generations canonizes the rings.
@BDSFormula1
@BDSFormula1 Жыл бұрын
All of this... AND NO PATRICK SPAZ?!
@hypnotic13371337
@hypnotic13371337 5 ай бұрын
14:00 Fucking happy gilmore ref "ARE YOU TOO GOOD FOR YOUR HOME!?"
@alexandrpeterberg390
@alexandrpeterberg390 Жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend checking out Pariah695's video titled "The Mysterious Disappearance of the Classic Chaotix" You may not like the revelation of why the Sonic brand is the way it is and why IDW Sonic is the way it is. Even Pariah would agree that the way they separate modern characters from classic characters based on what Sonic Team did or didn't create is stupid. If someone during Archie Sonic's messier years (before Ian Flynn's era) had wished that SEGA would step in and have more oversight over the Sonic brand, well, your wish was granted and later it got twisted in the way you didn't want it to be.
@comicscinemaothermedia9247
@comicscinemaothermedia9247 Жыл бұрын
9:15 I think it's a reference to the sonic the hedgehog ova where sonic fought metal robotnik in the first half of the animation
@DmanDmythDlegend
@DmanDmythDlegend Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I really like where the franchise is at right now, and this issue was a joy to read! But I do agree that while I think we do need limits to make sure that we don’t make the same mistakes Archie did sometimes, I do wish Sega would loosen their grip on the reigns every now and again. (I really want the Freedom Fighters and Naugus back in a major way!)
@thacobell4700
@thacobell4700 Жыл бұрын
Will be coming back to this episode in a year, when the comic is included a trade.
@NightFuryLover31
@NightFuryLover31 Жыл бұрын
My best guess is that this takes place around issue #64 and Endless Summer since Blaze and Silver headed out on their own at the end of that, and Endless Summer had Sonic mentioned saving the world 900 times in that one. This was supposed to be released before that special. The abandoned city reminded me of the one from the Sonic OVA, just like the fight. I also noticed this was the first ever that Orbot and Cubot fought Sonic. "Big oof." I loved seeing Blaze in action, and Shadow threatening Jet was pretty great too. XD 18:25 That shot of Sonic and Shadow is from Evan's fan comic. Still awesome.
@funnydotyes
@funnydotyes Жыл бұрын
The jungle from the blaze and cream section might be speed jungle from sonic superstars
@Oli6906
@Oli6906 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was Stardust Speedway from Mania 💀
@αωεςσε-ω7ζ
@αωεςσε-ω7ζ Жыл бұрын
The city isn’t anything we’ve seen in canon, but it’s a pretty clear reference to the OVA, especially with a fight against a robotic mecha
@abigailhedderly4978
@abigailhedderly4978 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos man! I can’t wait for the next video!
@jeremy1860
@jeremy1860 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if Sega, even during the initial boom of Sonic's popularity back in the early 90s, ever once suspected that love for the blue blur and his friends would last as long as it did 😊
@dcbandit
@dcbandit Жыл бұрын
The scene with the giant kaiju mech reminds me of the first Sonic movie, the animated one with Metal Sonic. It isn't exact, buf it's very similar.
@Bornheck
@Bornheck Жыл бұрын
9:15 I'm fairly certain this meant to be a reference to Robotropolis from the OVA
@TransCat_
@TransCat_ Жыл бұрын
As soon as you said you're finally a real youtuber I knew it would be raid.
@BlueJack222
@BlueJack222 Жыл бұрын
The story was weird that's all I can say it was like a Trippy dream like scenario or something like that I mean like the art but I feel like I don't know everything feels so weird but I guess that's good because it makes up for the very simple story of just bringing the gem back to its Home Place
@spider59er35
@spider59er35 Жыл бұрын
9:39 Call me crazy, but I think that’s the town in the sonic OVA
@imao15
@imao15 9 ай бұрын
10:42 i swear this is the best style in sonic and you can’t change my mind
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 Жыл бұрын
So apparently yes, we have seen station square after sa1. Before shadow the hedgehog reconned it, city escape was a piece of station square... Before being retconned into westopolis
@Friendlyaminals
@Friendlyaminals Жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see more from idw sonic, as someone who JUST finished the entire fleetway series.
@vi6ddarkking
@vi6ddarkking Жыл бұрын
Honestly so far the biggest mistake Of Sonic IDW was refusing to make a Sonic Universe equivalent. Sure the mini series do a similar job. But the lack of consistent releases makes them the inferior option.
@rainpooper7088
@rainpooper7088 Жыл бұрын
Eh, I prefer the miniseries. As someone who only read those comics once they were done rather than as they came out, Sonic Universe was a bitch to keep up with in terms of continuity. One arc is about every team that's not Team Sonic going after a Sol Emerald and Blaze meeting a bunch of characters for the first time then another is about Silver in the future fighting a version of Knuckles that went insane and killed everybody that I'm not sure ties into anything at all. I'd rather have them publish a miniseries whenever they have a new story to tell than have a comic series with a crap ton of completely unrelated arcs that you have to scour whenever some of it ties into the main comics.
@B-Dawgg
@B-Dawgg Жыл бұрын
I imagine it's a matter of sales. How is the main Sonic book tracking?
@vi6ddarkking
@vi6ddarkking Жыл бұрын
@@B-Dawgg Second best of IDW behind only the ninja turtles
@DaDylanMachine
@DaDylanMachine Жыл бұрын
I know you did just talk at length about it here, but I still think there is a really good video to be made talking about how the SEGA mandates are greatly hindering the IDW run. I understand why they are apprehensive after Sonic the Comic and Middle Years Archie, but by the time these mandates came in, these problems were remedied by a good creative team. I didn't finish this issue because I got straight up bored. And with each passing IDW issue, im getting more and more bored. I worry greatly for the long-run quality of the IDW series because of these mandates.
@TraffiJam
@TraffiJam Жыл бұрын
Shard is peak redemption arc, and his story ending early is saddening
@zippyzoom8786
@zippyzoom8786 Жыл бұрын
0:59 wooooooowwwww sonic selecttt. I think that was the 1st sonic comic i ever read and that was back in like 2013. I think thats how i found out about sonic
@tracyndiyob162
@tracyndiyob162 Жыл бұрын
that city is definitely metal city from riders with the futuristic cars.(think if i remember hearing this still takes place before frontiers,think with eggman's defeat in the eggperial city arc the'll likely have time go by to go past frontiers events finding ways to make it work with sage being with eggman now.) really love the sonic characters doing a relay race of sorts with the warp topaz(especially amy slamming away the orca/shadow trouncing the babylon rogues & definitely blaze adventuring with cream the rabbit again.),do like sega actually acknowledged all of their comics to let idw celebrate(especially bringing back fleetway's creator.:3),love the heavy ova vibes from the mazinger eggbot in the city(it seriously might as well be robotropilis/would love the ova characters to be in idw,make them residents of little planet to go over that issue.) and how we're starting to see more of the past games levels in idw. i'm as the most i would've actually liked is sonic running into the other game characters like the classic cast or his allies(shahra,prof. pickle/maybe chip,merlina, or maybe even cosmo.) as i knew the fleetway or archie(would really love to see aquatic folk come back as i loved them in archie's last legs.) characters weren't going to show after everything that's happened but would be nice if they did rerelease the issues they can.
@oisinman5
@oisinman5 Жыл бұрын
9:17 im pretty sure this is supposed to be a reference to the sonic OVA, especially with the egg mech, not perfect chaos
@urm0m69
@urm0m69 9 ай бұрын
Brother, there's many instances in the games before and after Generations where characters remember what happened in '06. Evem then, Generations sticked '06 back into the main canon with Crisis City
@anonbefallen4807
@anonbefallen4807 Жыл бұрын
9:09 I do believe the city and that Mech are a reference to the Sonic OVAs land of darkness/robotropolis and metal robotnik respectively. Oh and hey, theres a video idea for the next Mecha March Maddness, you're welcome lol
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