Gamesir Kaleid Xbox 1000hz working?

[@Meidey_]

Man i wish you would get more attention for the type of content you do and how much work and effort you put in your videos. Thank you very much snd keep it up ❤

[@thephototechy]

Bro really appreciate all the support 🙏🙏🙏

[@poohks]

@@thephototechywith time it’ll come

[@themasterzilla]

Hi I have a question why dosent this controller have TUrbo mode ?​@@thephototechy

[@thephototechy]

@@themasterzilla bro not sure if there’s any licensed controllers with turbo feature out there. It might be a requirement of the license

[@themasterzilla]

@@thephototechy the t4k model has it

[@pixelatedpigeon4617]

Super interesting stuff. The level of detail you put into these tests is really impressive. I ordered my Kaleid from Gamesir on Monday, hoping it turns up soon. I almost got the Flux but I prefer microswitch face buttons. It'll be interesting to see whether anyone can answer you question about the Flux's behaviour.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro do share what you think of the controller, feel wise definitely a step above the G7se. Still need to test 500hz, and I was able to finally open it and install Xbox stick tops, which did change the feel a bit, but it’s a pain to open due to the screw type used.

[@PentolKrk]

I have Kaleid for last 3 weeks and for me it`s better like elite 2.

[@tiaojunior111]

​@@PentolKrkposso te afirmar que ele ainda e melhor que elite tenho um elite core V2 e não uso. Vc poderia me ajudar o meu kaleid Não atualizou quando chegou está na versão 1.36 aplicativo e eu não estou conseguindo calibrar ele pois quando entro pra calibrar os botões RT e LT não funciona somente na calibragem já os analógico pegar normal só não concluí a calibração por falta do RT e LT não pega acho que e algum bug?

[@skreph2717]

​@@thephototechy I don't care for using the Xbox thumbsticks as it limits your movement when playing fast and aggressive, especially when you use a kontrolfreek on top of the thumbstick. I get better results with the standard gamesir or scuf thumbsticks. Go into Plunder solo and fight some 4 player teams, there is a difference.

[@antoineroquentin9875]

@@thephototechy For PC use, do you prefer it over the G7 (non-se)? I only play action games, no FPS.

[@PeazUpAtownDown]

Thank you for your continued testing for us and giving honest opinions based on your data. Cheers!

[@thephototechy]

You are most welcome bro!

[@shmelie]

your videos are most informative and best way to find out worth it or not

[@thephototechy]

Thanks for all the support bro!

[@YazzyDFS]

Thank you for all your effort

[@thephototechy]

You are most welcome bro!

[@HRM.H]

Channels like LinusTechTips should hire you. No one tests controllers like you do

[@thephototechy]

Bro thanks a lot for the kind words!

[@Matt17969]

Brilliant video , very detailed. I'm a pc player, would you recommend the kaleid for pc or the g7se? I don't play competitively but I prefer a more responsive and low latency controller.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro , thanks for the comment. I’ve just started going through some test results and the Kaleid indeed looking amazing in 1000 on pc. I can see some responsive results, but still there’s a lot I have to go through. I think Kaleid for pc makes sense over G7se, as you won’t need a special script to unlock the true 1000hz. But if Xbox would ever be on cards for any multiplayer games, then G7se makes more sense, unless they forcefully end up disabling the 1000hz of G7se on Xbox, as it’s truly something great.

[@Shinecold]

@@thephototechyso the g7se still has the app to get 1000hz still, does the khalied have 1000hz on Xbox

[@nickturnal__]

appreciating the content bro. thanks for the info. 2 questions: 1. is there a gamepad tester that you used (in another video) by going to the browser in xbox? 2. so the g7 se is 1000hz on xbox but not the kaleid?... sorry if i misunderstood ]THANKS!

[@thephototechy]

Hey you can use gamepd tester on Xbox via the edge browser, I sometimes used HCI design website as well. So according to my tests the 1000hz on Xbox Kaleid is not the same as G7se, and it seems doesn’t take effect on Xbox, but we do have a 500hz option, which I’ll be covering in a separate video as that one does feel slightly better.

[@nickturnal__]

@@thephototechy awesome thanks for the info. If it's not too much trouble could you reply with the link to the gamepad tester? I used edge and doesn't seem to recognize the g7. Thanks bro!

[@maikelstapper4347]

Hope you make video for xbox witch one is better to use g7se or the kaleid pleaseeeee😊

[@HannesHanath]

Thanks for this! Could you not maybe order the Flex and return it after testing? Which controller will you keep using, G7SE or Kaleid?

[@thephototechy]

I was thinking the same as it just popped on Amazon UK 😂. Honestly on Xbox I’d love to use the Kaleid more, but I’ve gotten used to the really lose sticks on my G7se, which Im sure will happen to Kaleid as well after serious game time, so trying to really run them in right now. Once they are equal then it’ll be a difficult choice. I do think G7se currently with 1000hz activated feels better, but this might change with a firmware update, which I’ll never do to my G7se 😂 and that could make the G7se behave like the Kaleid. If both don’t have 1000hz on Xbox then Kaleid makes more sense as they’ve changed the aiming algorithm slightly. I’m still gathering all the data about resolution and stuff, and will make a video comparing the two.

[@HannesHanath]

Yeah, no need to ever do a firmware update to my G7SEs. So ok, then I'll keep using those until you might find the Flux perform better.

[@Reymon10771077]

@@thephototechy We hope for that comparison video soon, Blessings.

[@rickaustin3077]

The g7se had loose sticks from new I instantly noticed the kaleid has stiffer sticks and when I first went from elite to g7se I didn't like how loose the stick were but got used to it but man once used to the stiffer sticks again my aiming is a lot better on the kaleid ​@@thephototechy

[@HunterStark-l9c]

Hey Photo! I just ordered this for my pc, what sticks and stick grips would you recommend for it or are the stock ones okay? Thanks!!

[@thephototechy]

Hey the stick ones are good, it I do run kontrolfreeks galaxies on the right and any generic grip on the left. You can try Xbox stick tops, but will need to open the controller, so will need to peel the back sticker off. I’d say just use the standard sticks that are installed, as Xbox sticks are a good feel but losing warranty is not worth it.

[@HunterStark-l9c]

@@thephototechy your are the best man thank you!

[@user-oy6qc5dj9i]

How does this one compare to the Wolverine v2 Chroma? I love the tactile face buttons and don’t want to switch back to membrane, so this Kaleid with both tactile buttons and Hall Effect sticks sounds really amazing.

[@ΙΩΑΝΝΗΣΓΟΥΖΟΥΑΣΗΣ]

my g7 se when i tuned it to 1000hz and connected it back to my series X, it didnt play sound through the headset. But it was mentioned in the application anyway. It felt somewhat faster in trigger pulls i think, and in every multiplayer session on BO6 i raised my killstreak sigificantly. But the downside is, that when polled to 1000hz, it wont play sound on heasphones plus it felt somewhat very sharp strafing left / right. Still, there are many factors to be considered such as how good of a player you are, mening if you shoot straight or not which improves over practice only. Also lpinq aka latency, also how fast is you internet connection and the server response where you are logged in. If all these facts are shit, you wont benefit a thing from 1000hz polling your gamesir pad..

[@tcrviper]

I can’t remember if you reviewed the flydigi apex 4 or not. But if not, I hope you get a chance to check it out. Because In addition to you moving the controller around to aim with the gyro, you can also bind the gyro to either the left or right thumb sticks. And for me that is a game changer because not only is the apex 4 precise but the fact that when you bind the gyro to the sticks it now will assist in making your stick movements even more precise. Plus you can adjust the sensitivity of the gyro and even adjust the dead zone for it as well. It does not aim for you. But smooth’s out Your stick movements even more. It is also 1000 Hertz out-of-the-box. And I’m able to use this controller on my series X via an adapter. I also have a Gamesir G7 Se and I like it as well. Thank you for all of your reviews and the review on this new Khaleid controller. I also have the original Khaleid . I mean no harm or anything. I just wanted to bring it to your attention.

[@bp5267]

What is the adapter do you use to get the Flydigi Apex 4 to work on Xbox X? Thanks.

[@tcrviper]

@bp5267 I have the Brookwingman xb. But now the xb2 has replaced it. But some have reported problems with it after the MS 3rd party band. People using the apex 4 have said that the Magic X adapter works, I don't have this one. My original brookwingman xb still works. But I am using my Titan 1 adapter with the apex 4 and keeping my brookwingman as a backup. I would highly recommend the Titan 1 adapter. All you have to do with it is autherize it by plugging in your official Xbox controller, then unplug it and plug in any controller you want. You may need to update the firmware of the adapter first. I will not go into why I personally believe that this method of authorization is a pro and not a con because I don't want my comment to be deleted. I can't fully tell you the name of where to get the Titan 1. But it starts with an "A"

[@bp5267]

@@tcrviper Thank you sir!

[@tcrviper]

Oh... I forgot to tell you one other cool thing. Once you do the authorization, you can even plug the wireless dongle of the apex 4 into the Titan 1 adapter and use the controller wireless.

[@MrRogerps3]

I have a Series X, my G7 SE thumbstiks feels more fast and stable at 250hz.

[@thephototechy]

He bro a lot depends on the screen and personal preference as well. Every test I’ve done with G7se, 1000hz shows faster response than 250. Still an amazing controller, specially when I look at how it’s held up for me with the amount of game time I’ve put it through.

[@darenking1508]

@@thephototechy I have a Series S & this last week I put my G7SE on 1000hz & it has felt like my inputs register inconsistent at times - is a known possible issue OR could it be placebo?

[@stevenserrano662]

The flux is working at 1000hz it works fine just no audio In the 3.5 but when I do the 1000hz on my Xbox for the kaleid my xbox does not recognize the controller. Thought I had a defective controller sent it back the Amazon and got another kaleid and it's doing the same at 1000hz.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro when you connect with 1000hz to Xbox do you hold the Xbox button in for a few seconds for it to start?

[@stevenserrano662]

@@thephototechy yes I unplug it on plug it back in it works for a lil until I hit the triggers

[@stevenserrano662]

I try to use the titan two controller adapter at 1000hz because we lost the 1000hz on console and it works... the titan two has a option to put any controller at 1000hz

[@thephototechy]

@@stevenserrano662 I’m not familiar with the Titan adapter myself. I’m connecting the controllers directly to my seriesx.

[@Reymon10771077]

@@thephototechy Titan two is a cheating device.

[@BringBack2Center]

Yo mr phototechy guy do you know which screwdriver to use to tear down the controller to swap the sticks. Awsome content

[@thephototechy]

Bro it’s a torx driver I believe, I had one laying around in a kit that fit but don’t k ow exactly what size it is 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@maikelstapper4347]

Hi mate witch one prefer you now more the g7se or the kaleid hope you amswer me

[@thephototechy]

@@maikelstapper4347 hey bro, for me still the G7se feels better for aiming. But Kaleid does have the audio available, which is a big plus for someone who relies on audio from controller.

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy i go back to my eswap s for feel the 1000hz away with my g7se thats why i turn back to my eswap s feel amazing fast and aiming is so good with the eswap s i gonna buy next week the eswap x2 hope you make video on that controller the eswap x2 bro

[@2LAZY-2EDIT]

I used a stock xbox controller this weekend instead of my 7SE to play xdifiant, felt like trash, could not keep up with sliding bunny hoppers.

[@thephototechy]

Hey so I did soooo many tests today, and it seems 500 is the new 1000 on Kaleid for Xbox. This also has audio, so if test of my results telly then we have a good alternative to G7se on Xbox. Still I feel the 500 on Kaleid is slightly slower than G7se 1000 on Xbox.

[@jreds79]

This is a great video...my issue with this controller is I'm having connection issues. In the middle of combat, my controller randomly disconnects. When connected to my pc, I see no option to change the hz.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro please try one of the firmware update methods from the below link, this should enable the report rate option and shoud fix the disconnect issue. www.gamesir.hk/pages/kaleid-series-1000hz-polling-rate-upgrade-tutorial

[@jreds79]

@@thephototechy Tried to download this firmware from their website and from a link provided by their customer care; chrome, edge, and Firefox blocked the downloads because they contained viruses.

[@jreds79]

@@thephototechy I've tried this already. No matter if I download the firmware from their website, or from a link sent via a customer representative my browser blocks the download because it has potential threats (malware). I think playing without headphones is the only solution.

[@thephototechy]

@@jreds79 hey why about using the T4k app from Microsoft store?

[@jreds79]

@@thephototechy will try!

[@shmelie]

i bought the g7se after i got the Eswap S and its way better at half the price Gamesir all the way from now on

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro I totally get the price point, but I do love the Eswap 😂. Did you ever change the custom response curve of the Eswap at all?

[@shmelie]

@@thephototechy i did try my software is not very great it is kinda buggy - when ever i did change the response curve the whole feel was very off for me it felt wrong in my opinion it needs to be linear for my brain to understand it or the software just doesnt do a good job. my software simply doesnt allow my mapping to work at all - i wish i could upgrade the sticks on my eswap s to hall effects

[@thephototechy]

@@shmelie bro that buggy issue happens to me as well at first, not sure what fixed for me as the update was failing every time I tried it. If you still have the Eswap please try “small 28 - med 34” large will auto set itself. Try this for aiming stick only with minimum deadzone set to 0 and leave max to 1. Use lower in game deadzones then you usually have, I’ve been beaming snipers in Xdefiant with EswapX and that was before they added flinch.

[@shmelie]

@@thephototechy so funny thing after having the jitter start right back up on right stick when i first plugged it in today after some rotations it settled and stopped and then i changed my response curve in my case i play rocket league so its the left stick and its the small movements im after and it does impressively well. i also enjoy having that pressure that keeps me from oversteering so much that the g7se just doesn't have. im receiving new ministicks in mail as soon as customs releases it then il get back on this controller more. i missed having this mechanicle buttons in my hands its just satisfying

[@shmelie]

@@thephototechy and the jitter on the eswap just gets worse when i play then i came up with he idea of just taking the right stick out apparently u cant play when you do that. whats weird is jitter stays right side no matter if i swap the sticks. when i recieve my replacements we wil see if it goes away

[@Fev3RDream]

I’m sorry if I missed you mentioning this but very important question. Did you download the 1000hz file package on the GameSir website? It’s clearly stated that must be done first to run 1000hz on Xbox. After I installed, the GameSir Xbox app now gives me a red message ( where the polling rate options used to be) stating : Connect to PC to enable 250hz mode.

[@thephototechy]

Hey yes so there were 2 options shown on the website, using the T4k app or a file package. I used the T4k app and I can see the red message on nexus Xbox, which says use pc to enable 250hz. The audio is still there on Xbox and like I showed the, xbox accessories app doesn’t recognise the controller. All these made me test the controller and it did not show a better result in 1000hz on xbox.

[@Fev3RDream]

@@thephototechy Thank you for all your hard work and research! 🫡

[@mikantpaddy7758]

So i just got my kaleid this afternoon and i am having that red msg as well when i used the 500hz rate..so what's that mean do i really have to change it back too 250 ? What if i keep it 500hz? I noticed also before i change it to 500 or 1000hz just the default how come my friend said that i don't have a coms?..thanks in advance for the reply

[@thephototechy]

@@mikantpaddy7758 Hey so keeping it on 500 will show that message in nexus on xbox. The mic issue is somthing someone else has mentioned as well, I need to test it on my setup as I have a separate audio solution I use.

[@StickyGeko]

I can't see the 1000hz in the xbox gamsir app for the g7se now...

[@NotMessi2022]

Me too I think they removed it

[@NotMessi2022]

They removed it for some reason

[@BestGunny]

I'm really hoping they make a controller with 1000hz and regular/replaceable thumbsticks. I wouldn't buy another type of controller.

[@onbroimtrash]

How will I connect it to my Xbox to register 1000hz, is there a way to login to my profile through the app?

[@michael-vp5tq]

Can you give a tutorial on how to install the firmware for kaleid? I can not get the 1000hz option

[@GHOST5AM]

bro, do you still use the Xbox thumbsticks on your gamesir G7? Which one would I buy too?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro the Xbox sticks are a good idea if you find the aim response a bit slow, or if you have some Xbox Kontrolfreeks you’d like to use. But I do believe with in game settings, the normal G7/G7se sticks can work well too. I’m using the normal sticks right now, as they keep the drift number a bit low, so I can play with only a 1-2% deadzone, instead of 3-5% I’d need on Xbox tops.

[@aksprayinn]

I had the g7se and returned it for the kaleid but I still have the same problem with both, my mic volume is so low, when I talk to people they say they can barely hear me. When I plug it into my ps5 controller it’s normal. Do you know a way to fix this please?

[@JaspreetSingh-fp7wg]

Any idea where we could get g7se internal spare parts?

[@sharkcpl2722]

Muy buen vídeo, felicitaciones!!! Como configuras esos colores en el kaleid? Gracias

[@kerim_og_9378]

Yo I watched ur videos where u compare controllers and input delay with aim flicking and recording in slow motion. I am a pc gamer normally with a 4090 & a 360hz oled screen, but I am forced to play on console cuz the shadow ban issues I get on pc, so I bought a ps5 and noticed how big the delay is. I got used to it in the last 2 months until I saw a testing on WZ2 where someone compares the series X to the PS5 and he got consistent 4-5 frames less lag so I was shocked & I bought immediately a xbox to test in my local store. And yeah, it seems that the input delay is not because console pc, it’s a Sony specific problem. On the Series X, basically depending if I use a 250hz or 125hz controller, I get around 3-4 frames less delay on xbox and that’s while using the edge on the ps5 that runs stock 1000hz!, 120hz on PC gets me the same result as on xbox, and of course pc on 360hz with a 1000hz controller is the goat, but my results on my oled screen + Dualsense edge that runs stock @1000hz (and that’s basically the fastest possible setup u can get with the PS5) PS5 w/ edge 1000hz = 36,8ms delay Xbox w/ 250hz controller = 21,3ms delay Xbox w/ 125hz controller = 24,7ms delay PC 120hz w/ 250hz controller = 22,1ms delay PC 360hz w/ edge 1000hz = 15,8ms delay I did a testing of over 50 samples for each setup configuration Pc setup is a 4090 + 7800x3d and monitor is Aorus FO27q3 I even compared 4k 120hz and 1440p 120hz on xbox & ps5, and it doesn’t affect the lag, on xbox I got even 2ms better results with using 4k over 1440p, but that’s because u cannot change the render resolution on consoles, they always render the same and upscale it to 4k, and then downscale it to ur output resolution, so one step more, so native 4k screen (or in my case using 4k 120hz cuz my monitor has hdmi 2.1) is always the best case for console Now I’m trying to sell my PS5, just searching for a good xbox controller with 4 paddles.. I’ve ordered the stealth ultra but now I read a lot of issues, would you advice the gambit ? It has to be 250hz, so elite series 2 and pro bfg are out for me. 4 paddles that I can use with only 2 fingers & 250hz is something I need.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro that’s interesting about the 4k display you mentioned for consoles, as I’m only on 1080 still 🤦🏽‍♂️😂. I’ve just finished testing the Kaleid and G7se and managed to use a motorised solution as well which is looking really promising so far. Best I can get with my screen is an average of

[@kerim_og_9378]

@@thephototechy yeah I’m recording around 8-10 frames on ps5 and on xbox I record 4-6 frames on my screen, but yeah definitely need a lot of test examples to have a somewhat consistent result on 240fps slow motion, but who knows maybe the next iPhones in the future can record @ 500/1000fps I already have the eswap x, didn’t use it for over a year tho, the left stick randomly pulls completely in one direction, I was thinking of buying a new module but the reviews are very mixed, a lot of 5 stars and a lot of 1 stars where the module stopped working, so not sure if I should waste those 20€ for that. The gambit I could get from amazon for 54€, but yeah like u said, the 4 paddles for me looks like I can get a lot of missinputs cause they are so close together. The stealth ultra basically fits all boxes but then I read things like disconnects (even wired and I only play wired anyway), wear on that left anti friction ring, and not be able to turn on that xbox when pressing the X button on controller, some people say u need to hold that button for like 3 seconds to turn it on ? Did u experience that too? If anyone would make Hall effects for the eswap X would be so nice. Maybe I give the stealth ultra a try, will arrive tomorrow, if I have too many issues with it I think I’m gonna buy just another module for my eswap X. Also, do kontrolfreeks fit good on the stealth ultra ? Some people say yes, some people say no.

[@thephototechy]

@@kerim_og_9378 about the stealth ultra, make sure you check the output is even across the right stick, if like mine you have more register per increment in any one direction, then definitely return it straight away bro. It’s a really good controller but again has built in minimum deadzones which can’t be disabled. Xbox kontrolfreeks do fit the sticks and move a bit, but never came off during game for me. Personally I’ve only ever had disconnects on pc whilst trying to test the controller, Xbox it’s been absolutely solid when playing wired. I only ever tried wireless for a few games and didn’t like the feel at all. The controller also has an issue when wireless and a headset plugged in the controller, it adds way too much latency, which not only showed on my screen recording tests, but can also be seen in xinput and one of my own apps.

[@hieplu1037]

Hi, how about Flux, does it work on Xbox with 500hz?

[@thephototechy]

Bro I have the same question 😂 not sure if I’m going to pick that one up. Also I’m uploading the video with 500hz results right now, it should be up very soon. So on Xbox Kaleid definitely needs to be set to 500hz.

[@PentolKrk]

In Gamesir Nexus I don't have option for change hz, I checked on PC and on xbox app its this some. Do you have any id ?

[@themasterzilla]

Same can you tell me if you figured it out

[@theultimatedisciple7974]

When we speak of Hz regarding a controller what does that mean?

[@hajt669]

With the Kaleid at 1000hz does the audio jack work or is it disabled?

[@Nthryy]

It works

[@Alt4i_]

Danke für dein Video. Ich habe den Kontroller auch getestet und werde damit leider nicht warm. Ich wünschte mir du könntest den Scuf Invision testen und warte auch deine Ergebnisse.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, I do wish to test that controller but currently I cant play on pc properly. Funny thing I was at a friends house today who has a 4k 144hz monitor for his PS5. Bro I can't believe what I've been playing at only 1080 120 on a cheap monitor even on PS5. Xdefiant looked like a different game to me on his screen, honestly has me confused now to get a monitor or keep saving for a pc lol. I'm also finding it difficult to think this one is an upgrade over the G7se in any way, unless we lose the 1000hz on G7se then this could be better. Did you test this one on pc? definitely keen to know how it performed with 1000hz on PC for you, thanks.

[@Alt4i_]

@@thephototechy ja ich habe es am PC getestet. Ich habe natürlich nicht solche Programme wie du oder so eine hochwertige präzise Kamera um das zu filmen aber ich habe den sweet Spot auch bei 500hz gehabt.

[@maikelstapper4347]

Hi bro the kaleid use 500hz and thr g7se still using 1000hz witch one is better for you and also whe need done the script on pc to using the 1000hz and 500hz ? Hope you answer me

[@Reoz_14]

Gamesir G7 way better & Faster response & yes only on Pc you can set it at 1000hz

[@maikelstapper4347]

​@@Reoz_14 its still work 1000hz on xbox after set it to 1000hz on pc labtop ?

[@rickaustin3077]

Hey mate do you think its better to use raw on this controller?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro defo if you find it a slow to respond, but try 500hz first. Seems like the 500hz has better performance now and. With audio as well on xbox.

[@rickaustin3077]

@@thephototechy I don't have a pc to put it to 500hz is there not a way to do it through Xbox ?

[@sjkfskjdfsffs]

@@thephototechy do you use raw?

[@thephototechy]

@@sjkfskjdfsffs Hey yes I've tired it and for COD it can be very useful. Currently I'm playing Xdefiant and I have a very different aim setup in that game. So I do find non raw with 0 deadzones better than using raw where I might need to up the deadzone ever so slightly.

[@theswagger5386]

Hey, is the Xbox Kaleid still 1000hz on PC? I have a ton of experience with Gamesir products, but can't find the 1000hz setting on the Nexus app, it must be gone. I've found it before on the T4K and G7SE

[@theswagger5386]

Nevermind, watched your other video and you showed the solution there, thanks again!

[@StickyGeko]

​@@theswagger5386 what was the solution video

[@maikelstapper4347]

I have now try the trustmaster eswap x2 wow wow what is this a beast give the same feeling when i play with g7se with 1000hz its amazing controller have the eswap s here to i iam done with the x2 g7se the 1000hz is now mabey later away on xbox i want a controller what give me future

[@maikelstapper4347]

Hi bro i have order the kaleid to you say te kaleid can use 500 hz on xbox right ?

[@thephototechy]

Hey so you can even set it to 1000 and it saves on the controller, but according to all my tests the 1000 disables the Xbox license. Also 500 improves the performance on Xbox, so I’d highly recommend setting 500 for Xbox and 1000 for pc.

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy tnx you so much and the g7se that on 500hz to on xbox or that is 1000hz better ?

[@maikelstapper4347]

I have order the kaleid for when g7se 1000 hz is away butt g7se and the kaleid witch one is you favo controller then

[@jake9012]

I have g7se for series x. It’s still on 1000hz pullin rate. Manage to apply that bedore the update. Now how do i ser my g7se and nexus app to disable the automatic update? Fearing they’ll disable it by new firmaware.

[@thephototechy]

Hey so they can auto update the app, but I don’t think they can force a firmware update on the controller. I have the updated app and still has the 1000hz working on my G7se. If they do make a force removal, it’ll be on the Xbox end and that could be through a system update. Hopefully wont happen but it’s a possibility, as Microsoft apparently mentioned competitive fairness being a reason as well for its removal.

[@mr.fahrenheit555]

What are those thumb stick caps?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro these are Kontrolfreeks universal no slip grips.

[@shmelie]

this is the newer kahlied hey how is the older translucent one in comparison?

[@thephototechy]

Ah bro I wish I could test the old one as well, but I’m on console only so unable to test pc controllers right now.

[@tcrviper]

I have the older translucent one, and I have used it on xbox. It is good. But when the official Gamesir g7 se came out for xbox and I picked one that up, its performance is much smoother. I don't have any of the newer translucent ones. But if these official Xbox Kaleid's are anything like the g7 se, they will be better than the old one, at least concerning xbox.

[@LIFTEDbry]

I can’t get the polling rate to pop up in the nexus app, for the Kaleid.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro I had to update my controller with the T4k app first, this then enabled the 1000hz option. There are two ways of doing it, T4k app method seems the easiest one. Link from Gamesir website is below, hope this helps. www.gamesir.hk/pages/kaleid-series-1000hz-polling-rate-upgrade-tutorial

[@LIFTEDbry]

Worked like a charm bro thank you!! And yes through the T4K app was very simple for me.

[@HerFogel]

@@thephototechy will the 1000 hz mode work on my xbox seriesx using this method?

[@Almightydubzz]

Is the controller firmware the same as the g7 se or is it a different one?

[@thephototechy]

Hey so to be able to get the 1000hz we need to either custom install a firmware or use T4k app to update the controller. I updated through T4k app and got the 1000hz option that way.

[@Briam33]

@@thephototechy man can you comfirm that the over clock on those controller is super incosistent ? I have t4kaleid and man it drives me crazy .... one day its over clocked the other is not... idk what to do

[@thephototechy]

@@Briam33 hey bro, I haven’t tried the T4k myself, but everyone seems to praise that controller. I have seen someone else mention feeling G7se not staying a 1000hz on Xbox always. Personally it seems to be fine for me but one thing I know, when someone has a hunch there’s definitely something there.

[@Briam33]

@@thephototechy definitely!! I will get this one now … hopefully it stays at 1000hz i

[@GHOSTZVKES]

is there audio issues when using the 500hz polling rate. My party says i sound sonft when i put it on

[@thephototechy]

Bro not gonna lie, I only tested the audio output and wasn’t happy with the result, but that’s something on most cheaper third party controllers. Only the stealth ultra, EswapX and Raikiri come close to elite series 2. Will check for mic though and see if it’s an issue in mine as well. What firmware you on? Also did you use T4k app or manual method?

[@GHOSTZVKES]

@@thephototechy i used the the t4k app. i also need to recalibrate the controller if you can help with that for the kaleid

[@thephototechy]

@@GHOSTZVKES hey recalibration is exactly like the G7se, you can do a manual one or thought the app. I’ve done a few times and the manual one works perfectly just like before. Check the link below for instructions. www.gamesir.hk/pages/tutorial-how-to-use-gamesir-g7-se

[@GHOSTZVKES]

@@thephototechy I've been taking a look at their discord and some reddits and there are some people that have this issue where the mic is soft and party members cannot hear us

[@modigosmidig]

Which controller is best on PC, T4 Kaleid or G7 SE? :)

[@thephototechy]

Bro I haven’t used the T4k myself, also don’t have a pc to compare them. But every test shows the Kaleid Xbox being better than G7se on pc for sure, so if T4k is anything like the Xbox Kaleid then it’ll be better than G7se for pc.

[@modigosmidig]

@@thephototechy Okey I see, thanks for the answer man :D

[@DJERYMIX]

i use this controller and im using the lastest software i believe and it let me use different hrtz base on the profile im using

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, plz share software version and controller firmware version. Also is it the Kaleid or Kaleid flux you using? Thanks

[@DJERYMIX]

@@thephototechy i use T4 Kaleid on PC. Software version is v0.3.3 Firmware is v1.4.4

[@thephototechy]

@@DJERYMIX hey that’s a different controller, this one is the Xbox Kaleid K1.

[@theswagger5386]

Do you think the Xbox Kaleid is better than the T4K?

[@thephototechy]

Hey so there are differences between the Xbox Kaleid and G7se, and I’m sure G7se has slightly different aiming algorithm than T4k. Kaleid Xbox is their newest model and shows good responsive results on pc and actually a good performer on Xbox as well. How different is it going to be from T4k is a bit difficult to say for me as I haven’t used the T4k myself.

[@theswagger5386]

@@thephototechy Thanks for the response, if I get the Xbox Kaleid I’ll let you know.

[@theswagger5386]

@@thephototechy Any thoughts on the Xbox Kaleids response curve? Is it perfectly linear?

[@lizardon7096]

I use am on pc and sometimes Xbox My g7 se is getting old should I buy the new Kalied or should I buy another g7 se? What’s the difference?

[@thephototechy]

I do think for pc the Kaleid would be better, that’s according to me tests so far. I’m working on a detailed comparison of G7se vs Kaleid as there are differences between them.

[@lizardon7096]

@@thephototechy does kalied have halo effect and clicky buttons?

[@uhMaxx]

my guess is that they changed something on the pcb board not allowing it to work on xbox anymore since xbox told em that its not allowed anymore, why would they release an update that would break their deal with xbox, lol

[@thephototechy]

Bro my thoughts exactly, which makes the G7 and G7se a very unique controller for Xbox.

[@nikolagvozdenovic940]

Is this controller GameSir Kaleid T4 or?

[@thephototechy]

Hey it’s the new Xbox Kaleid and not the T4 which is the older version

[@maikelstapper4347]

Butt i have a new kaleid to next week wheb i connect it to pc to set it to 500hz also i think its say have update fot the kaleid first using it what then not mabey i get the 500 hz not anymore on xbox ? Pleade answer me

[@TerryBollea1]

I pulled the app on xbox. Dont have the option for rate. Help

[@demolition368]

Originally I had the option to change rates. Then the app updated earlier in the year. I then lost the ability to change rates on Xbox as well. I assume bc of what he’s showing here, they removed the option. Which is sad bc I didn’t care about the headset jack and it functioning or not. I had a profile saved with 1000 rate and it still lets me use the profile, but I don’t know if I’m actually getting that rate or the 250. I can’t find any information besides what he’s talking about here.

[@gindussetv7193]

I have a g7se had it over a yeah still no stick drift headphone jack dont work have to use a second controller for sound

[@ru3bgaming381]

Is g7se still 1000 hz and what about Kaleid give me suggestion for fps games on xbox

[@breiiko]

What is the name of control freek??

[@IDKKK1207]

which controller feels better in hand?g7 se or this?

[@thephototechy]

I’d say for larger hands, this one for sure, plus I don’t have that face plate moving all the time.

[@rickaustin3077]

This has better grip than g7se plus it has a slightly sharp shape underneath which actually makes it feel much better grip

[@Psilent_P]

I tried it for one week on 1000 hz on Xbox, just switched to 500. Xbox accessories app does recognize it at 500, you also dont get the warning about the audio jack. I dont think 1000hz works on xbox... 500 feels much better actually in gameplay. I think something funny is happening at 1000

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro thanks so much for sharing this. Im going to test the 500hz on Xbox and some pc tests as well very soon.

[@maikelstapper4347]

You mean on xbox nexus app you whe can set it to 500hz on xbox not need a pc to set it what with g7se

[@jediae]

do you remember me😡! ive had the g7se for a while now and i absolutely love it headphone jack on 1000hz wouldve made it even better but you can’t win em all

[@thephototechy]

Hey so even the Kaleid disables the headphone jack in 1000hz, but It seems the 1000hz is only working on pc. So by the looks of things Microsoft got their wish of no 1000hz on Xbox. My concern is for G7se losing the 1000hz as well with a firmware update, similar to the Kaleid. Personally I won’t be updating my G7se anymore. Kaleid with 1000hz on pc definitely shows better performance than what it’s doing on Xbox. I will make a separate video of those results and will test 500hz on Xbox as well to see if that’s an improvement at all.

[@jediae]

@@thephototechy yea i fear the loss of the 1000hz on the g7se aswell i really hope microsoft just leaves it alone but incase it is worse off which controller do you prefer in terms of just overall feel aside from the clear gap in performance 🤔

[@Principito7]

@@thephototechywhat if u connect another controller with a mic but u use the g7 for gaming does it work?

[@Imtoast2011]

There is no longer an option for me to turn on 1000 hz for my new controller on xbox . I got my replacement g7 se and lost the 1000hz it seems like Can i fix this ?

[@thephototechy]

Hey yes, but it needs to be set on a pc using nexus, it can then be played on Xbox with 1000hz saved on the controller.

[@Imtoast2011]

@thephototechy ok thank you !!! I will have my friend help me ( don't own a pc )

[@thephototechy]

@@Imtoast2011 I know bro it’s such a pain, but once set you’ll be good. Just make sure you have a profile with 250hz saved as well, just in case you need the headphone jack for some games.

[@Imtoast2011]

@thephototechy done. works perfect absolute game changer thanks so much

[@maikelstapper4347]

​@@thephototechy when i buy a new g7se can also to use the 1000hz when i putt on pc nexus app to 1000hz en then connext it to my xbox use i then the 1000hz with my new g7se ?

[@ur_idea]

where can i find this software for it?

[@thephototechy]

@@ur_idea hey for adjusting settings it’s the Gamesir Nexus app, available on Xbox and pc. If you need to enable the 1000hz option then check the gamesir tutorial from the link below. www.gamesir.hk/pages/kaleid-series-1000hz-polling-rate-upgrade-tutorial

[@maikelstapper4347]

Its still kaleid the 1000hz or 5000 hz on xbox g7se its feel the 1000hz is away?

[@maikelstapper4347]

Hi bro ask when i get the kaleid i need update the controller or not and can i use the same nexus app what i use for g7se and my version is 6.30 have i still 1000hz with g7se with this version ?

[@maikelstapper4347]

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[@maikelstapper4347]

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[@cudderlover1216]

Idk how but I swear I feel more connected with the Khalid over the g7se.

[@thephototechy]

Bro the controller is definitely a lot better in many ways than G7se. The resolution is a bit higher and it might be you are playing at 500hz, which does feel slightly better to me, tests for that will be next. Are you playing on Xbox or pc? Coz for pc Kaleid definitely has G7se beat.

[@cudderlover1216]

@@thephototechy I'm on the series x. I just want an Xbox controller to feel like the PS4 controller lol which doesn't even make sense because that controller was only 250hz

[@thephototechy]

@@cudderlover1216 I never had a chance to use that one, but many still prefer that for pc. Not sure if the alps modules are actually different than from PS5 controllers. Hopefully if I ever get on pc I’ll definitely try that one.

[@cudderlover1216]

@@thephototechy yeah most pro controller players still use it and just overclock them

[@thephototechy]

@@cudderlover1216 there must be something to do with those older potentiometer sticks that makes them a favourite of pro players. I actually bought an Xbox one on midnight launch, when everyone I knew was getting a ps4, that’s how much of an Xbox fan boy I am 😂

[@samyt681]

which kontrolfreak do fit

[@thephototechy]

PS4/ps5 ones bro

[@neosaber4]

1000 hz on xbox with g7se are not possible right now. On the latest update… and plus, even if you have 1000hz on xbox then you have no audio at all on the controller so.. there is no option untill we will be able to play 1000hz with audio on controller

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro so the Kaleid also disables audio in 1000hz, but audio is there on Xbox, this prompted me to test and see if 1000 made an improvement on Xbox.

[@neosaber4]

@@thephototechy do you think in future it will be possible to play 500/1000hz with audio on pc/xbox ?

[@bp5267]

The Astro A40 Mixamp for xbox solves your no audio issue. It's what I use for my current setup. Apple Air Pods with the 3.5mm end work well with the mixamp. The Airpods provide great audio and the mic works well. You can plug your headset or earbuds into the mixamp for chat/audio, while using the g7se. Also you can use any wired xbox controller for chat/audio, just plug it in one of the usb ports on the back of your xbox X.

[@neosaber4]

@@bp5267 i don’t have mixamp and only 1 controller… anyway i though mix amp was to able to connect to xbox

[@ssjmafi4]

Can you confirm if the 1000hz works on the xbox then?

[@thephototechy]

@@ssjmafi4 hey bro for Xbox only 500 sees improvement in aiming, setting to 1000 just sets it at 250 when connected to Xbox

[@ryanduran3026]

I have windows 11 and the 1000hz still isn’t pulling up nothing is it’s just blank I see so many people able to pull up the report rate but somehow I can’t.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro is it for the G7se or Kaleid Xbox?

[@ryanduran3026]

@@thephototechy the kalied xbox

[@ryanduran3026]

@@thephototechy the g7se pulled up the report rate right away I had no problems with that controller this one though the kalied I am having issues with

[@ryanduran3026]

@@thephototechy also I just talked to geek squad at bestbuy and they were saying it’s because the kalied isn’t compatible with windows 11 so I’ll have to download windows 10 so is that the issue?

[@thephototechy]

@@ryanduran3026 So there is a tutorial on Gamesir website on how to enable the 1000hz. I had to download the T4k and update the controller through that app, this allowed the report rate option to appear in Nexus for me.

[@Troynex]

Is the kaleid better than g7se!

[@thephototechy]

Bro it definitely feels very nice in hand and honestly for pc I think no point for G7se. I still have to run tests for 500hz on xbox, also will do some for pc as well just to see if it’s better than G7se.

[@maikelstapper4347]

​@@thephototechy can i get with a new g7se 1000hz on xbox ?

[@EzelGüley]

GameSir T3S🙋‍♂👈

[@hahawong4406]

is there any difference on the size and texture compare to g7 se?

[@Psilent_P]

This one is almost identical to a stock Xbox controller, with the same sticks and triggers as the G7. Personally, I like the G7 for sports games and that's about it. This is better for shooters. Same texture as the SE, no rubber

[@rickaustin3077]

It's not same texture it's a bit more grippy texture it also has a sharper shape to the rear were you holding that gives just that bit more grip I personally prefer it over g7se as I like the stiffer sticks g7se sticks are probably the lightest on any controller and takes getting used to this pad is better for me for aiming due to that ​@@Psilent_P

[@NicholasFuller-yq2dk]

What about 500hz?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, so 500hz still shows the controllers in xbox accessories app and the audio works too. I have to conduct tests on the 500hz too, which I’ll include in the pc tests video. I’d suggest using the 500hz setting instead of 1000 on Xbox.

[@lukaszjust6147]

does 1000hz work correctly on G7 on xbox ?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, yes the old G7 once set to 1000 on a pc nexus app, will work on Xbox. It’s also a great controller.

[@hmhm5007]

can u make it bluetoot??

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro this one is wired only

[@maikelstapper4347]

Is this the khailed flux ?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro this is the Kaleid not the Kaleid flux.

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy khailed is only for pc ? Butt khailed better then g7se and also 1000hz when i putt on pc to 1000hz and connect it to xbox?

[@thephototechy]

@@maikelstapper4347 hey the new Kaleid Xbox is the one in the video, so far setting 1000 on pc and using on Xbox is not doing anything different on the new Kaleid.

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy ahhh ok tnx for you answer i have a good choice then to buy again the g7se that is still use 1000hz right ?

[@meishi7271]

Was this tested on Windows 11?

[@DanielGonzalez-cz1ju]

the microphone jack isn't working on xbox

[@saulpalacios8944]

The aux out Is not working 🙂‍↕️

[@stevensv4864]

holy moly 1000hz with windows 10 so this is better than my g7 se, oh men

[@thephototechy]

Hey nice updated through the T4k app, we have the 1000hz option in nexus and it works without any script on windows 10.

[@stevensv4864]

@@thephototechy yes, but the sticks feels the same?

[@thephototechy]

@@stevensv4864 they’ve changed the aiming algorithm very slightly, still getting all the numbers, but initially tests definitely show a small change.

[@Sp3cTrxL]

​@@thephototechyIs it linear like the t4k?

[@thephototechy]

@@Sp3cTrxL Hey so far all my tests show a different aim algorithm than G7se but not what I've seen T4k do. This one looks different to both T4k and G7se.

[@Kingolaconny]

Xbox is locked to 125 polling rate right? Thats why gaming mices feels so much better on ps5 (wich is 1000)

[@C23451]

Try this link

[@muhammadrasool-w5i]

I knew it, xbox just has a lot of delay and these companies use 1000hz polling rate as marketing!

[@IDKKK1207]

idk man no setting works for me with these gamesir controllers,the aim assist is non existant

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, others have mentioned aim assist issues as well to me. Initially it did take me a bit to get used to HE sticks, have to say I’m very used to them now and do enjoy them a lot. I think I need to try and do the aim assist tests somehow to see if there’s a difference. If I did have to pick an absolute favourite for Xbox, personally I’d go with the EswapX, but it definitely feels a bit slower to me than G7se, still I love the custom curve option on thrustmaster Eswap controllers, even with the outer max deadzones.

[@cudderlover1216]

Same. Idk what it is but I feel like I have no AA with that controllers at times. When I was on the PS4 I didn't feel these problems. But now on the series x it feels like I don't have AA randomly

[@j0eykarate264]

@@thephototechy Curious about this as well I mostly play Halo and I noticed less aim assist on this kaleid flux/ g7se compared to my instinct pro scuf

[@RealziesCuts]

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[@FartingFrog1938]

Which is the better overall controller kalied or g7 SE? I’m on Xbox

[@thephototechy]

Difficult to say right now bro, as I’m testing both back to back. G7se definitely is a unique option with real gain in 1000hz on Xbox. It might happen that we end losing the 1000hz on G7se as well through a firmware update, so I won’t be updating my unit at all. One thing I’ll say if you need the headset jack then Kaleid makes more sense as you won’t be using the 1000hz on xbox then.

[@FartingFrog1938]

@@thephototechy I currently use the G7SE and love it. Wondering if I should try out the Kalied tho, the back buttons look a little nicer

[@GodKingSun]

So G7 SE or Kaleid?

[@shxdy7604]

If u play on xbox don’t buy it

[@GodKingSun]

@@shxdy7604 I don’t, I play on PC !?