Game Theory: Are Video Games Anti-LGBT?

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Final Fantasy VII's cross dressing scene is one of the most memorable in gaming. But as I was analyzing it, I noticed a disturbing trend in how LGBT lifestyle is portrayed not just in this scene, but across gaming as a whole. So what does FFVII's drag scene teach us about the cross dressing community and about the gaming industry as a whole?
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[@xmoore5659]

I do not understand why people are saying that MatPat dismissed Undertale, when Undertale came out late 2015 and this video came out early 2014. It was a different time.

[@bunni7005]

Yes this is right nice to see this comment

[@fishersofmen8723]

Your forgetting about unertel which came out in 2015 you IDIOT!!!

[@Xman34washere]

*undyne and alphys proceed to yeet the entire theory*

[@dinoxman8584]

Fishers of men Uhhhhh what?

[@stellanovaluna]

@Fishers of Men please explain I'm confused.

[@Mucblaster24]

MatPat: “Can you imagine if a game company did something like this today”? Breath of the wild: Laughs in cross dressing

[@potionapparently]

Oh yeah they did do that-

[@TheLadySquid]

Insert funny name here I feel FF7’s cross dressing scene is still a lot more controversial. It’s different because while Link is just infiltrating Gerudo territory, FF7 addresses how men treat women and all that. Gerudo scene was pretty awesome though loool

[@SophiesName]

the ways the two games do it are very different, breath of the wild handles the subject mildly more tastefully (imo)

[@ocfromcooki2282]

Plus animal crossing

[@crow2661]

Square Enix: *laughs in remake*

[@caspartheghost7159]

2014 was a tough year. If two lesbians kissed on TV, it was ok. But when openly gay singer; Adam Lambert kisses his bass player, it gets censored?

[@seraphiccandy21]

Is it also disgusting when a man and a woman kiss? Should they only do so behind closed doors?

[@seraphiccandy21]

Quinn The Quartz A couple of hundred years ago most women wernt allowed to vote and most people owned slaves.Also most people were illiterate. Just because the majority of people do something doesnt mean its right.

[@beliar1404]

According to research only 70% of american youth identify as heterosexual. That is quite different number, don't you think? It's your homophobia that is not tolerated here.

[@beliar1404]

Caspar The Ghost This guy removed some comments, it mess up all logic here...

[@MaoRatto]

Blaise Imiolczyk Nope.avi. Just someone else deleted them...

[@shark5336]

It’d be cool if Mat could revisit this theory and see how far lgbtq+ representation in the gaming industry has come

[@erinmckevitt6162]

definitely! I’d love to see a video about how far we’ve come but also talking about changes that still need to be made

[@antimanti4666]

@@erinmckevitt6162 what changes still need to be made?

[@bellaknightR597]

@@antimanti4666 the fact that you have to ask that 🙄🤨

[@antimanti4666]

@@bellaknightR597 well if I can't ask what else should I do?

[@Macndcheese]

Most of it isn't good tho

[@GameTheory]

Talk about timing. I do this episode and news just broke that Nintendo refuses to let same sex Mii characters marry...Coincidence??? HALF-LIFE 3 CONFIRMED! #miiquality

[@GurrenTheStormbolt]

I think not.

[@djgongral]

OMG, why not!!! I think that this opposition to happiness really just...errrg ....(and miis can marry?)

[@fearfulharmony94]

#goodtimingmatpat

[@RenatoGrigoli]

***** Adult-child and human-animal marriage are *not* the same thing. Children and animals can't consent about getting marriage (at least not at higher councious levels). Furthermore, if same-sex marriage is Cultural Marxism, I'm on that all the way! =D

[@Laggiest_]

Ohhhhh, that is weird

[@austinturell8589]

"What do they all have in common?" Me: "THEY'RE ALL PINK!!!" MATT:"THEYRE ALL VILLAINS " ME: "Well I guess that too ... "

[@cheeseycat6342]

That's what I thought, though.

[@liwillett]

THATS WHAT I SAID!!!!! XD

[@purplegirl7719]

lol....i love it......

[@sarahdyclon3093]

Thought so too

[@herrscherofsweets9583]

*G A C H A L O G I C*

[@CreepsMcPasta]

I can already smell the hordes of people who will bring their negative comments, but I think it is great that you brought such an important yet not talked about topic to light.

[@SteveSwipe]

Nice seeing you here Creeps :D

[@MrMuxix]

Creeps? YOU'RE HERE? :D and I agree this NEEDS to be talked about

[@cristiancojocaru9821]

Remember kids, having a different opinion is fore-frowned upon by Creeps and his ilk.

[@direhunter7045]

creeps you're here!! wow, wow, wow

[@jacobperry3651]

CreepsMcPasta this one right here👆👆👆👆👆👆 Actually makes sense.

[@annmarieaber2430]

2014: lgbt protags? Pfft 2019: Overwatch’s mascot character tracer is confirmed to have a girlfriend

[@Katiegx12]

@@z.ncvcbv that's not anit-Male dumbass

[@FallingEastward]

Plus junkrat & roadhog... Hopefully

[@BitterKatze]

Roy McA Yes. Tracer is a playable character in Overwatch

[@stawbury7413]

@@FallingEastward they are labeled as villains

[@user-nz4dr1sy5g]

But that just felt forced there are better examples

[@memorex0110]

I thought we were all God's children. And I was under the impression that he loved all his children. According to most Christians, he loves all his children except for homosexuals and people who don't believe in him. I though God was all about love, peace, forgiveness, acceptance, and equality, but according to most Christians, it's about shunning those who aren't the same as everyone else. Not to say that all Christians are like that, just a large amount.

[@Chadmh358]

Its kinda complicated. You see God loves everybody according to christian doctrine. It is stated in the bible that homosexuality is a sin. This does not mean homosexuals will not enter heaven. No sin is worse than another sin. I sin all the time. A gay person and me are equal in terms of sin towards god. The issue comes in that people dont acknowledge homosexuality as a sin. I have multiple homosexual friends and i have no doubt that they have a chance to enter heaven. Its all about faith in god and atoning for sins. Christians who look down on homosexuals are misguided and ignorant. In fact they lack the true beliefs of the bible. I dont know i that helps at all, but its my opinion. And i agree that some christians are wrong...

[@noahhay7372]

Chadmh358 Someone finally figured it out. Hopefully everyone else on this vid can see your enlightening comment. You sir are a genius.

[@FireNeedlez]

***** no not exactly here is what i think and what i believe in: If you have committed a sin and you die no matter who you are a murderer a theif whoever you can still explain yourself to god and if you truly are a hell spawn u go to the underworld if you cant be fixed. I think god loves everyone and everything and Christianity isn't really complicated. You can to a degree chose what to believe in. All god want of you is to believe in him, know hes there for you and to try your best to stay out of trouble. Christianity is really one of the most open and none complicated regions there is. If you believe in god he will believe in you. And and not trying to tell you your wrong im just stating what i believe in.

[@mrartem555551]

God isnt real... Sorry for the spoil :/

[@charitymakey4860]

Well said friend.

[@ghost_fueled_scarecrow]

Matpat: "Not only featuring the longest title in gaming" Me: Super Kingdom Hearts Chapter 2.1 Prologe Birth By Sleep A Fragmantory Passage ARCADE EDITION A La Creme

[@altreon3608]

featuring dante from the devil may cry series

[@WolfTamer]

With the new funky mode!

[@Technical0Difficulty]

I'm a straight, heterosexual man and I was kinda hurt that Vivian was "censored" from being acknowledged as a guy. It made me feel like Nintendo didn't think I could "handle" knowing that. I get they did that for the broader population and all, but still it didn't sit right with me. Not even for some social-justice bullshit - I just don't like that I couldn't play the game how it was originally intended. It was about 2 years after the game had been out that I finally learned that little fact.

[@elim9054]

Technical0Difficulty Vivian is not a "guy" in the original version of PM2; she is strongly hinted at being a trans woman. There is a big difference.

[@shesmarie3191]

Technical0Difficulty straight and heterosexual? hmmm maybe its a double negative!

[@DontMockMySmock]

Shelton Dunlap That's simply not true. Gender, as opposed to biological sex, is that thing that encompasses cultural notions of male and female - women wear dresses, men wear ties, girls play with dolls, boys play with trucks, etc. All that is cultural, not biological. So a trans person is someone who is biologically one sex, in this example male, meaning that they have lots of testosterone and probably a penis and facial hair and so forth, but who takes on the cultural role of a woman, in terms of e.g. how they dress. Gender is a matter of presentation and cultural identity, and is (essentially) a matter of choice (although in practice, most people don't so much "choose" as "feel" what gender they should be). So if you're born biologically male, you're not necessarily going to be a boy/man for the rest of your life. Furthermore, chromosomes don't necessarily match up with biological sex, and not everyone is unambiguously biologically male or female. Many people are born with some kind of intersex condition, and are more-or-less arbitrarily assigned a gender at birth, occasionally with genital-mutilating surgery to "fix" them. And so it should not come as a surprise that these people grow up to be dissatisfied with their gender role. In any case, to deny them the title of "woman" or "man" because of their biology is bigoted and shows a startling lack of empathy. You're arbitrarily imposing rules upon someone else for no good reason, rules like wears dress = has vagina, which have no factual basis, but are cultural. So don't try and claim that your "chromosomes are what matters" opinion is in any way more valid than the idea that biological males can wear dresses.

[@tubblestop414]

DontMockMySmock Of course everyone is born with qualities of male and female but their chromosomes determine sex overall. Im not talking about gender roles im talking about chromosomes and science.science. Im talking about sex not gender,major difference.

[@DontMockMySmock]

Shelton, did you read my comment at all? You were talking about being a "man" and how that is determined biologically, which, as I went to great pains to point out, is false. Being a "man" or "woman" is cultural, and your claim that they are determined by biology is wrong. I don't know why you now say you're not talking about gender roles, when in your first comment you clearly and unambiguously talk about gender roles and adamantly refuse to separate them from biological sex. And as I also pointed out, chromosomes don't necessarily determine biological sex, either. Biological sex isn't that simple.

[@evakantz5085]

nobody- youtube lets recommend this 6 years in the future

[@stellanovaluna]

IKR?

[@FrozenFrostyCow]

Same

[@insertusernamehere8324]

Lol 😂

[@kayhi379]

LMAO

[@haseenabadshah5381]

404 likes,comment not found

[@marchcupcake]

I put on a guy shirt and guy pants. Doesn't make me a cross dresser. Yet a guy puts on a girl shirt and pants and he is a cross dresser?

[@secutorprimus]

1) there was a comment here, and a misclick from me reported it (sorry, I'm on a phone typing this) 2) the comment was (paraphrasing, I don't remember the exact words) "A girl wears trousers and no one bats an eye, but a guy wears a dress and everyone starts freaking out" 3) My reply is simple: in the general society of this decade deems pants/trousers as a piece of clothing appropriate for either gender, while deeming dresses as "girls-only", similar to tuxedos being "guys-only". This is me saying what society thinks. I won't confirm or deny that I agree with this; my opinion is presently irrelevant.

[@Dailylilyful]

Alina Mickel a dress, guy pants and shirts are just clothes ppl, they don't defined your gender or sexuality, you do

[@TheThoerlChannel]

Daily Lily You say that. Society doesn't. That's the problem Alina talks about.

[@owlywoofs8675]

+Alina Mickel you do not need to label yourself. You are you, and that is all that matters.

[@TungstenDiioxide]

Alina Mickel Equality.

[@itskitty808]

Female characters are allowed to be homosexual because most men find lesbian couples "sexy" and "hot". I find that sexist. Let lesbians be lesbians without society finding such couples as sexy. Two girls in love is not sexy. It's love! Let them love each other with being viewed a sexy or hot couple. Heterosexual couples are cute but not sexy or hot.

[@isnitjustkit]

How in hell is that being sexist, people find it cute. I find it cute. End of story.

[@PuttysauceYT]

+Hazza Slack Gaming Its sexist because the only way an LGBT+ relationship can be accepted is if it is two lesbians. Because lesbians are "Hot" and "Sexy". Its sexist because some hetero men will only accept LGBT+, if its a pair of sexy lesbians that they can jack off to. Its sexist because it is demeaning to lesbians, cause they are only seen as a sexualized object. I can guarantee you that if lesbian weren't sexualized by Some hetero men, they wouldn't be in some games. Now I agree with you, it is cute. But game developers are not putting lesbians in there games because its cute. They put them into there games because it is sexually appealing to some hetero men. To sum it up: It is sexist, very, and needs to be stopped because it is wrong. That's why it is sexist.

[@isnitjustkit]

True, you got me there. Congrats

[@itskitty808]

Puttysauce YT Agreed. Lesbians should NOT be viewed as sexual objects for hetero men to use. They deserve to be viewed as a normal loving couple, not sexual fantasies.

[@isnitjustkit]

TheLastOfUs38 Like people with no profile pictures

[@unusedaccount7197]

Gaming meeting: "Gay man?" "Censor it!" "Two lesbians? "Over sexualize it!" Gaming, what'd we ever do to you?

[@playahwon]

What we did to gaming is put it on KZbin and make theories about it. Don't know how we deserved what we got back from it.

[@taylorphelps3724]

Otaku Warrior it's not just gay men who get discriminated. Plenty of lesbians do too. As one, I see it a lot!

[@xx_phedora_lvuer_xx2498]

anime dub meeting: "nudity?" "censor it!" "rice balls?" "censor it!"

[@brandontrujillo7836]

dude they better censor something like that, games are usually directed to guys, and gayness would really kill the mood for most players.

[@frenchmasterrace574]

Guys,you're not discriminated.Gay and lesbian relationships are as censored as normal relationships.For what I've seen homosexuality is even more popular in games nowadays.Stop thinking you're discriminated and that you're special,you're normal people.

[@sam.likes.donutz4583]

If being bi makes me a villain then prepare my monologue and get me some henchmen 😂

[@aisha5156]

demon wolf luna Then I guess your going to have to be prepared to die then. Also your sad backstory too, don’t forget that!

[@sam.likes.donutz4583]

@@aisha5156 I knew I forgot about something, silly me 😂😂

[@aisha5156]

demon wolf luna Lol👌🏾

[@Vixen_Rose6404]

Yes-

[@Endershock1678]

ᗪEEᖇ Ḁͦi̥ͦs̥ͦh̥ͦḁͦ Depends what game's villain. Though, knowing me, I would absolutely want to be the sadistic, charismatic villain that dies in the end in a blaze of glory.

[@kirbyinhalesjotaro4471]

Its 2019 and you really gotta do another video about this topic

[@trentyoung6791]

I totally agree, enjoy an extra like kirby

[@missmrvee]

...things have changed...a little

[@richchilles]

Indeed he should

[@memowl3663]

Is 2020 and no LBTQ+ videos

[@binman94]

*me liking this in 2020*

[@martyshrekster]

Honestly, the way Fallout: New Vegas handled sexuality was one of the best. Arcade Gannon and Veronica Santangelo were both gay characters, and it had a small impact on their backstories, but it wasn't some kind of ridiculous, over-the-top stereotype. You were meant to feel sorry for the NCR soldier at the outpost who talks about the NCR's homophobia, and the same with Veronica and the Brotherhood. Normal characters you met in the game were gay and it was no big deal, and bigotry was always portrayed in a bad light.

[@magicrainbowkitties1023]

And you could make your character as gay as the Mojave has sand

[@ianpierce8380]

It's a shame people can't mind their own business these days. Like, you're gay, you're straight, you sexually identify as a helicopter, like who cares... Just live and mind your own shit. Like damn.

[@NielsTari]

You sir deserve a like

[@ianpierce8380]

now accepting cookies and likes

[@user-cp9id1mj8b]

chocolate chip or blueberry

[@hiruharada2650]

Yeah. Too bad there's still pride parades... You'd think we were past that point by now.

[@ScientistCat]

my sexuality is submarine

[@teylawhite687]

I hereby dub this video: “Straight man accidentally discovers the deep seated homophobia in the video game world. Is shooketh.” (But really it’s always a bit comforting to know someone cared enough to talk about this issue way back in 2014)

[@echolocation1]

Yes lol

[@crystaljones2953]

@stop lgbt yeah kid we don't care

[@sam4gaming135]

​@@crystaljones2953 it's on minecraft too, so this is probably a kid lol

[@megangibbs4158]

It took me two years to figure out what Cloud's second sword was.

[@whisperingshadowXI]

IT'S CALLED A BUSTER SWORD!

[@whatthefridge1o1]

Megan Gibbs wow. Lol😅

[@averagechannelname9969]

Ooooooh. I get it now.

[@Immadeus]

It's deadly. I'm not joking.

[@mayravixx25]

They call it "The Impaler"

[@Obsiidian]

But that's just a theory, a GAY theory

[@quakingshister8091]

Gay-me theory

[@oklol8356]

Obsiidian *gayme theory

[@madiklein7087]

Obsiidian thanks for watching

[@kannonmcwhinney1617]

Obsiidian pokemon omega rubyer reference? Or am i just crazy

[@thechadchampion]

Gay means bad and I like the video because it is so true

[@ash64181]

"Can you imagine if a game developer created a scene like this nowadays" **flashbacks to breath of the wild**

[@alexandrite6902]

Lol u mean the Gerudo outfit

[@jhlc1235]

SPOILERS

[@Gemini_Woman]

I love how Mat Pat understood what drag was more then the toxic drag race fan base

[@garage_goblin]

PFFT- You're not wrong tho 😅

[@davidlz830]

In an interview i think he did mention he did drag so it only makes sence.

[@vainpiers]

You know what would be nice scrolling down an LGBT related content section and not seeing Christian hate, hate on the homophobes not Christians.

[@vainpiers]

+Slaves to Armok I know mostly Christians and they're not homophobic at all and as a none homophobic Christian I find hate on Christianity upsetting

[@vainpiers]

+Slaves to Armok I go to a Christian school and I have met only 2 homophobic people, and one very unfortunate lesbian who's parents are homophobic. I don't believe it is the religion that causes homophobia as there is only one sentence about gays in the bible in the old testaments, it's just people looking for something to blame for their fucked up views. And people struggling to find evidence to back up why they are homophobic as there is very little.

[@vainpiers]

+Slaves to Armok I live in England so that's probably why my experience is different

[@mikwons]

+Guilherme Duarte I may not be Christian, but this was incredibly offensive. Everyone has a right of believing what they believe, so stop shoving your opinions down their throats.

[@HANCHANs]

+AngelinBlack I agree. I am not christian, or religious for that matter, but if you needlessly hate on the Christian faith that just proves your a 16 year old "edgy" atheist.

[@abovenbeyond2826]

the ironic thing is i had a gay dating ad before this

[@memebois9764]

Mandude channelname Lol

[@trickytreyperfected1482]

Mandude channelname it's not ironic. It's called selective ads. The title had gay in it, so youtube gave you a "gay ad"

[@trickytreyperfected1482]

***** what's yuck?

[@trickytreyperfected1482]

***** why's that yuck though? You just watched a video about gays in video games.

[@beanovids2342]

All I get now are cigarette PSAs.

[@communist_oranges]

Wow... When I first saw this video in my recommendations, I had NO idea what LGBT or gay meant, flash forward and now I'm bisexual, my brother is transgender and gay, I have a gay best friend and a same sex relationship. Oh, how times change.

[@priv-5930]

That’s…literally everything, I respect you so gosh darn much you majestic being

[@ray-without-organs]

do not harm this gentle beauty.

[@2_572]

Meth is awesome and coke😁

[@kiwibanana7590]

@@2_572 what

[@quicksilver3135]

Wow I’m so happy for you! Hope you are doing great!

[@nopenope4502]

I just flew over from the Kalos region in Pokemon Y, and it's interesting that, as a girl, when you and Shauna watch the fireworks together, she says about how good friends you are and stuff, but when playing as a boy, Shauna makes a remark about "How she's never been alone with a boy before"

[@Sahil-ph1bp]

Pain.

[@diamondminer5459]

There’s a trans NPC in Pokémon X and Y.

[@BoondoggleMyCognle]

@@diamondminer5459it's not definitively stated

[@sb6196]

@@BoondoggleMyCognle in the Japanese version it is

[@BoondoggleMyCognle]

@@sb6196 I'd like you to source me that

[@avas4939]

LGBT Men are continually censored and LGBT Women are sexualized! What did the LGBT community ever do to gaming?

[@bigounce2651]

I don't know.Maybe criticising a game because it doesn't pander to the LGBT community(which are,in no ways,the targeted demographics) trying to force and bully a company into putting gay romance in a game,even tho it has no reasons to do so.

[@avas4939]

I am not asking them to put a gay romance in every time I am simply asking that they don't paint us as evil sexual deviants every single time there is a gay character.

[@bigounce2651]

Ava S You got it wrong. *YOU* don't want to video game companies to go out of their ways to put gay romance in every video game,but the LGBT community sure as hell does.

[@selinnazsur2328]

And that's normal, because they want to be represented in their favorite fictional works too, and in the right way. The bullying isn't normal though, that part needs work. But if the companies were considerate enough they would at least put background gay characters who are innocent bystanders and not villains or the laughingstock of the fictional NPC communities. I'd understand if there weren't any lgbt characters, although I wouldn't agree because I'm an ally and I want my lgbt peers and friends to be represented, but putting gay people in specific villainous roles is pure misrepresentation, and indecent in general. If you can't do it right, don't do it at all, because real people get hurt because of it.

[@Wrpipe]

Ava S woman are always sexualised in media no matter what it was originally about!😞

[@leavingthezone876]

This video makes me want to make a best selling video game series and then reveling the main protagonist as a gay male. I'm going to need some help with this.

[@nerdaitami7205]

CakeSplat a black cuban trans gay men wielding an enormous customized chainsaw...

[@owlywoofs8675]

I'll give you a hand, but I have noticed that many of the main characters are male, and if they are female and the main protagonist they are really stereotypical so how about a female for the main protagonist, or someone transgender. It would help break the trend of male protagonists in best selling games.

[@nerdaitami7205]

***** nope seems like you didn't play that much games man... how many games that you know of have female player characters? you should find betwen 0 and 20 if you have played a lot... how many games do you know with male player characters? I can list more than a hundred without any problem and I can probably go up to 200...

[@nerdaitami7205]

***** so let me clarify things... I meant video games where you play as a female character during the whole game (and you don't get to choose) wich is the case of some rare games... (tomb raider series, Drakengard 3, Portal, Mirror's Edge) but if we compare to the oposite we get a lot of games like Doom, Duke Nukem, Quake, Shadow of Mordor, Hitman, Metal Gear, Persona, Deus Ex, Battlefield, Gears of War, Stalker etc... and also most games don't have any reason to not include a female character because most are set in Fantasy or Science Fiction settings and those that are not that I listed could have included female character's because nowadays include woman's. and then there are games like hitman... is there any reason an assassin couldn't be a woman? even during the antiquity there was female assassin's and the only thing the job require's is brains and luck... also setting is not an excuse, women always existed and will alway's exist (as long as the specie's exist) so game's like Stalker wich I'm actualy playing without a single female character makes the game less believable. also the history we are told in class is actually not acurate, it is an interpretation and is biaised. we have proof that there whas female knights in europe, that woman where quite common amongstd viking berserkers and there whas female Samurai's in japan but the history we are told deliberately ignores them. sorry if this is quite long and not very well constructed but I hope you got my point...

[@sydh.8699]

+CakeSplat Yesss

[@annawilson4607]

Seriously I just want one ONE female same gender relationship that isn't hypersexualized.

[@jinnbs414]

Anna Wilson Star Trek Online featured recently 2 female Klinon warriors (for about 30 minutes) who didn't interact sexually with each-other. (massivelyop.com/2015/05/31/star-trek-online-flame-wars-erupt-over-gay-backdrop-npcs/)

[@wormfood69]

Anna Wilson Last of us dlc could help with that.

[@brainwasher9876]

Madam Red shame that the...sigh...black character dies soon after.

[@thiagohayashi9936]

Anna Wilson In Guild Wars 2, the main Sylvari NPC is mentioned have an ex-girlfriend. And, you face her in a dungeon. So far, she is a total lesbian. Still able to kick a lot of ass, and not hypersexualized.

[@wormfood69]

Andrew Wang Yeah but atleast they got to spend there last moments together.

[@ER-bt8kr]

Matpat in 2014: There are almost no games with LGBTQ+ characters that aren't villians! Danganronpa Fans: *Laughs in Chihiro Fujisaki and Ishimondo*

[@zak_moment]

Isn't Nekomaru canonically bisexual?

[@aisha5156]

Wait Ishimondo is *canon* ?! Where have I been?!

[@zak_moment]

@@aisha5156 apparently the people behind danganronpa tweeted that they would have lived together if they survived, but that could have just been a fan account

[@aisha5156]

Zuzu13puppylove Oh, I hope it wasn’t a fan account. I love that ship.

[@zak_moment]

@@aisha5156 same-

[@sunshineflicker6120]

Let's remember that 1. being trans is an identity while being a crossdresser/drag performer is entertainment. Also let's remember that 2. those times when women are accepted as being gay or bisexual they're sexuality is often portrayed as something exotic and the women are almost exclusively sexualized and objectified.

[@EnderSheeper]

Oh my gods! This was released in 2014!? Before the new intro? Before GTLive? Before UnderTale and even 2 months before the first FNaF!? I feel so old now even though it's just over a two-year difference. Wait, it's almost 2017 now? Where has the time gone!?

[@ybeeddy4172]

Ender Sheeper Time is Time And It need time to Get time And when they have time they use they time Idk This is to ramdom

[@EnderSheeper]

Saying "gods" as plural is a reference. Hoover Dam snackbar, I'm a tad surprised no one knows where it's from.

[@admiralabi6181]

Ender Sheeper That must be a Dam problem.

[@decompiler7726]

6 days. Not ebem a week.

[@decompiler7726]

I got a week

[@duaopgaming179]

As a homosexual myself I really don't feel demonized or objectified by games at all.

[@duaopgaming179]

I feel more demonized by the gaming community then anything

[@atlas8827]

Same here.

[@joshuawhite7339]

They must open their minds! To be honest, if a certain belief has been passed down through generations, it's surely hard to shake off. Then again, one of my parents and 2 of my brothers are anti-gay. Yet I'm not.

[@duaopgaming179]

***** Their magical man in the sky told them be anti-gay so apparently they have to be.

[@VitroTheAlien]

do you have steam? (I wanna talk to other homosexual people)

[@kitstars6562]

This video was quite progressive for its time. I can’t believe I got this in my recommendations years after... even though it’s not 100% accurate.

[@Left4Cake]

MatPat always been a bit sloppy exspically when he's trying to meet dead lines for KZbin, but I do believe his heart is in the right place at leastm

[@auravaury]

@@Left4Cake I mean, can we blame him? He was 1 guy in a closet watching Ru Paul's Drag Race. He now has a whole team and reddit

[@BROJANGSTER]

what parts aren’t accurate? serious question, legit curious

[@melvint-p9500]

@@BROJANGSTER he refers to Vivian as male.

[@melvint-p9500]

@stop lgbt zad☹️

[@TheHarlequinHatter]

Gamers most of the time: Games are important! They are a real art form that really matter in society! Games helped me shape who I am, and can be used to change the world! Gamers when racist/sexist/homophobic trends are pointed out in gaming: Dude, it's just a game. It doesn't matter.

[@killfae]

exactly!

[@MrJonman14]

So much right in one comment!

[@takemetoyonk]

If it doesn't matter, I'd like to know why you think so.

[@starberry_lemonade]

It doesn't change the fact that it reinforces the idea that homosexuality is bad unless it's a lesbian relationship....

[@takemetoyonk]

I don't understand why you think that's true. As an example, school professors can persuade or manipulate people into believing or subconsciously building a certain concept. Why can't video games be that subtle teacher? I know I can't change your opinion, but I just wanted to put that out there.

[@kchancancan2671]

*me watching this is 2019* Boy have things changed!

[@wakaran7790]

Eeeeeh :/ not really

[@wschippr1]

*KISSKISSFALLINDEBT* It's gotten better for sure, but not dramatically. We are far from equality.

[@dustyboialex]

Yeah!! Like how he calls basically being trans as fishydrag??? Like??? Boy??

[@wschippr1]

Alexbutalsotrash Fishydrag is a real thing though...

[@ghostwizard7597]

tbh, at this rate, i don't think we'll reach equality. Our folk keep demanding representation for nothing and we have so many disagreements on lots of things. I dream of a world where being gay is seen as common to most of the population on earth. But we keep putting labels on ourselves and focusing on non-important things and that's why we're not progressing to a better future, imo.

[@Sapheiorus]

Came for a shitstorm in the comments. Was not disappointed. Was surprised by the amount of God references, though. Makes one wonder if Christianity is the most significant battlefield in the homosexuality debate these days.

[@Sapheiorus]

***** I am an atheist myself, having broken through my Christian upbringing a number of years ago for reasons unrelated to this issue, but my remark was not intended to be aggressive against the religion. I may not necessarily disagree with your statements, but I see people in these comments using their religion as a context to both speak for and against tolerance of homosexuality. History may look back at this point as one of many in which Christian doctrine and accepted belief changed significantly. Who believes in witches anymore? Who believes it is acceptable to burn alive those we believe are such? How many Christians still believe in a predetermined fate of Heaven or Hell as opposed to one where such a fate is not set in stone from the moment you are born? History classes tell of times like these that are long past and of an event that best describes how malleable religion really is: The Reformation. From the Protestant movement, great schisms forever changed what Christianity was for many people, and I'd like to think that these progressive times may bend the masses under Christianity towards toleration. You see it in the comment spaces and you hear it by the words and silence of the Pope on issues such as these. The point of my comment was to probe whether or not people thought the sheer number of Christians in the world make that faith more or less a deciding cultural factor in issues related to this matter, because, while we are increasing in number, we seculars are not yet as numerous as they are... and also because this is a clear point of contention WITHIN their faith communities. Within the frame of the struggles of homosexuals, I see Christianity's role as a critical aspect of human civilization's path to bringing about proper treatment and accommodation for homosexuals as members of society. So I ask you, what do you believe is gonna affect this civil rights movement for homosexuals?

[@GuyWithChainsaw]

***** Why are you everywhere? And why are you so smart so no one else have to try to explain things? Oh and why are you so good at sarcasm and shuting stupid people up? Also good job. Much appriciated.

[@GuyWithChainsaw]

***** It's not odd for me. These were kind of rhetorical questions. I just wanted to thank you for doing it. I think it's pretty awesome of you to do that. I too think that people should be called out on their bullshit. Unfortunately i don't have enough knowledge or talking skill to say anything smart. Just wanted to let you know that there is a person (I) that thinks it's good that there is person like you. Thanks again.

[@cuchulainnenjoyer]

I'm a huge proponent of separating yourself from the church for this very reason. People have grown far too dependent on the bull shit that the church feeds them. I constantly had that nonsense stuffed down my throat as a child, but now that I'm out on my own I've learned how misguided Christians have become. I don't necessarily make my faith a major priority in my life, in fact I very rarely use it for anything other than getting me through tough times. I don't go to church, I use common sense, logic, and morals not taken from the church in my debates. I just wish there was more I could do to put my voice out there saying there are those who believe in God who aren't out to make LGBT members' lives hell. We truly believe that they are on the right path and that our God loves and cares about them, but that does not necessarily mean He is THEIR God. I promise some of us actually have brains, LOL.

[@echoreos]

I'm Roman Catholic and I support LBGT, just throwing that out there if it makes any difference...

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

It`s great to see that Matpat actually cared to discuss this issue while not showing any hate for LGBTQ community.

[@TheHutchIsOn]

Id say he did the opposite. His support for the LGBT and drag community is infectious all throughout

[@gemeosnosgames]

​@@TheHutchIsOnnah

[@davidlz830]

​@@TheHutchIsOn"What did you said you milk drinker? Go back to your mother."

[@MichaeltheArchangel1-w5n]

​@@TheHutchIsOnIf you say this as a bad thing, then you'd be sorrowly mistaken, especially if we look at the channel's recent content. That aside, I think it's great that he at least made a video about something like this and should technically receive an updated version nowadays.

[@emilymiller1072]

After reading an hours worth of comment reading, I'm pretty pissed off at humanity. But on the bright side, most people were with me: People should be free to love and live as they please. I feel strongly about gay rights, not because I'm gay (I'm not -or... at least I'm 99% certain I'm not), but because I don't believe in telling people what they can and can't do. And because freedom and liberty are VERY high on my national agenda. I can't be friends with racists, because it's not okay to tell people they were born wrong, just because they're different.

[@RobiePAX]

You do realize that it automatically means you are supporting all other similar cases such as Incest Relations/Marriage as well. If you don't support other similar cases then you are a hypocrite.

[@emilymiller1072]

...

[@bannockk]

RobiePAX Incest is not a similar case at all because it isn't about sexual preferences. People who are Incestuous aren't attracted to them because they are family they are attracted to just that person in particular. That would only work if they said they would only have relations with someone in their family which would make it a sexual preference.

[@RobiePAX]

bannockk it is the same thing. Gay sexual relations or marriage are no different from Incest sexual relations or marriage. Both are being heavily condemned by the majority of the world and are considered illegal. The scenario itself is no different, example: a brother and a sister might "fall in love" and wish to live like a normal couple. Or how about a little paradox? How about gay incest couple, that one takes the cake. As I've mentioned before if you support one, then you automatically support the other cases, or else you sound like a hypocrite.

[@mendicant3006]

Ironically your avatar is Blake from RWBY.

[@mindatwillight]

I felt like going back and re-watching this after what recently happened. Now that gay marriage is allowed through out the US, will next generations finally come over this problem? I watched the 'kids react to gay marriage legalization' from the fine brothers and their answers really got me thinking. The next few generations are going to be growing up in a world where pointless boundaries that we were raised with are completely removed. People always say things like 'Oh, this next generation is the worst', but I'm thoroughly excited to see how things will be in 20-30 years.

[@mrnaughtyscotty69]

***** I think Utah lets you do that already though I may be wrong about that.

[@MotherNature101]

***** You are so right about the nukes that's what's scary I can't imagine what kind of damage that would do and if a nuclear war broke out nobody would win. But yeah they think they are going to heaven when really it's the other way around obviously they are driven by hate.

[@MotherNature101]

***** Some people would make their life a living hell or like they say there are things so much worse than death.

[@muhammedazmaz353]

+Slaves to Armok I live in Turkey which is a country next to the Middle East you guys are talking about, and im telling you, they are not thinking something like "Lets go and kill some gay people to go to heaven". Plus ISIS have notthing to do with middle east beliefs because they only use their beliefs as an excuse to cause terror. By the way, you can have multiple partners in middle east but only one will be your legal wife and others will be count as prostitutes, a little bit weird :/

[@georgewren1144]

+Caitlin The Insomniac id love to say that i think they would shift to more lgbt friendly grounds but most of gamer are heterosexual males and therefore more conformable playing as heterosexual males oh unless of course they play as a hot female of course (but then the game get judged for using that to an advantage etc)

[@berrybunnyprince811]

Ash Ketchum also crossdresses a suprising number of times in the anime.

[@frejo1931]

That's a anime. Not a game. And guess what? There's a transgender trainer in XY. THAT GOT CENSORED

[@Robbmann67]

Majamy no there isnt

[@frejo1931]

Dat Boii yeah there is! There's a random female trainer that says that "a mere half a year ago I was a black belt! Quite the transformation, wouldn't you say?" But the thing is that in the japanese version she says that she was a karate king, so clearly male, and that the power of medical science in incredible.

[@Robbmann67]

Majamy the power of medical science? tf does that mean?

[@Mia-eh4cd]

MinecraftSurveyCorps ash is also voiced by a woman

[@LogCabinMusic]

I went into this expecting it to have aged horribly Turns out it's still relevant in current year

[@gemeosnosgames]

Nah

[@R..E..H]

Bauldur's gate 3.. uh skyrim, uhh Fallout 4, Life is strange, Stardew valley

[@eliasl332]

The exact opposite is happening now and it’s disgusting.

[@FOSTERFARM]

*scrolls down to read comments* *sees homophobes struggling to justify their homophobia* *scrolls back up*

[@FlamingRaptorClaw]

Me.

[@annafreitag9498]

foster Well done. You're Mareep after all. Mareep doesn't like homophobia.

[@Lokificent]

Soviet PePe Phobia: An extreme or irrational fear of or *aversion* to something.

[@LosMirangeles]

Homophobia isn't really wrong; it's a fear. An extreme fear. That being said, I don't think there's a living soul on this planet that is genuinely afraid of homosexuals. Discriminating against them, now that's wrong.

[@Brett.321]

Mathara Kamau discrimination isn't wrong it's human nature.

[@kuya8329]

Woah, matpat was really out there talking about lgbtq+ in 2014. That's honestly amazing.

[@turnip8749]

nena LGBT+ is correct, because Q stands for ‘queer’ which is a term people used to derogatively call gays

[@pentabump]

@Hi I’m a dog It was a slur but it's now been reclaimed

[@idk-yk1kc]

Hi I’m a dog it’s used to be a slur but it’s been reclaimed and it’s now an umbrella term for some people

[@aur9035]

Idk why yall are treating 2014 like a millennia ago..? I remember pop culture from the early 2000s mentioning it like it's no big deal

[@sothatsdevintart2562]

@@aur9035 bro, as a straight man who’s been on detox from the alt right pipeline for a year now, the fact that MatPat covered this stuff during PEAK GamerGate days is incredible.

[@anomalousfiend]

But that's just a theory... a GAAAAY THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING!

[@sudriangirl]

MLG Gaster ... this is everything anyonr we need

[@paulgirtu2463]

On the channel "Community" starring -Senor chan- MatPat.

[@aidanburress1787]

MLG Gaster I

[@whatthefridge1o1]

MLG Gaster **facepalmes**

[@bat7696]

This is the most beautiful thing I've ever read

[@enzofujiwara414]

MatPat:Can you imagine if a game developer created a scene like this now a days? Me: Zelda Breath of the Wild!

[@mint7442]

I don’t get why everyone is saying this because in botw all he does is cross dress. Or are you referring to the fairies

[@elizaheintzelman8764]

We don't spill tea when it comes to intolerance... We through the god-damn cup. -mac

[@gplgs4640]

“No, we throw it into the harbor” - ‘Murica

[@emma-uo1nm]

HAHA. this is combining LGBT, macdoesit, AND some hamilton time period related stuff. im fangirling. SOmeboDy hold my chIK-FiL-A leMoNaDe

[@coldpep6970]

YES

[@Sonic_the_Hedge-hog]

We throw that muthaf*kah into the next relm

[@squishyhero]

"I have a big cup so it makes me look smaller! ...I have body issues :)" -Mac

[@barbaravaldezprados3522]

Thats why I'm soo happy of a game like Sally face: "Todd, and his boyfriend Neil! They're always so happy when they're together." *Sal* *Fisher,* *Chapter* *3:* *"Bologna incident"* And "We're not all gay! except for Todd, he's super gay. It's part of who he is and I think that's amazing!" *Sal, to Travis, also in Chapter 3: "Bologna incident"* Not to metion quotes like: "Who said only girls can wear pigtails? I like pigs too!" *Sal, to Megan, in Chapter 2: "The wretched"* He has cannonically worn dresses, and pigtals, he gets mistaken by a girl and he just goes with it. And THAT ladies and gentlemen, it's good a character... . . . ... Can you tell I'm madly in love with this man, even if he's not real?

[@savvyhowe1646]

and the Sal's bully, I forget his name is in the closet I think, I love that game too I really wish I could get it

[@ashmiller8543]

Yess. And honestly if Travis doesn't turn out gay (which I'm 99.9999999% sure he is) I'll cry because my life would be a lie

[@barbaravaldezprados3522]

@@savvyhowe1646 Travis! His name is Travis.

[@barbaravaldezprados3522]

@@ashmiller8543 Honestly, same, dude...

[@ButterflyColors]

I love the game so much!

[@renthewerecat]

you can crossdress in animal crossing new leaf, i actuly have one character that wears dresses and loves girly things but is a boy

[@keirazmudkipz1765]

I make my boy character(I'm female) wear a Japanese schoolgirl esque outfit, or a dress and a flower in his hair Oh, and Isabelle is apperantly (take this with a grain of salt) a pansexual bisexual, or something along the lines of that

[@diegotorres-be2wq]

@@keirazmudkipz1765 nintendo of america even confirmed Isabelle's bisexuality.

[@Sup-rh4eu]

Ren Thewerecat more evidence that animal crossing is best boi

[@Apollo_G]

Also the gender you choose doesnt make any physical changes to your character :DDD

[@keithflippers4429]

Cough cough Raymond

[@karaokekookie4461]

Even tho this is an old episode, one thing I'd like to point out is that the gaming industry has been known to be sexist for reasons that is unknown. It really makes me steaming when gaming is treated as a MAN thing when gaming should be for EVERYONE. Games portray the good guys to always be a straight man because the industry believes that is the truth to Gamers. There has been a big improvement, but there are many changes that will one day be valued.

[@aisha5156]

Yooy :3 Ik it’s true and I’ve been wondering that.

[@popdesil123]

Deep

[@ohnoohno1299]

It’s because that’s the majority of gamers and game makers want to relate to the biggest audience

[@yeemawheaver1387]

Here's how it is gaming is for everyone. There are different video games you can play you don't have to play Mortal Kombat (this is just an example) which obviously appeals to a straight male, but you can get games like Life is Strange, Until Dawn, The Walking Dead, etc. which don't only appeal to men. Yes anyone can get the game obviously however, if me as a businesswomen knows that mostly males buy games and they don't want to see two guys kissing on each other, but instead two females then imma get this money and sale them what they want. And to be fair times really have changed and opinions on gays have shifted, the games in the video are old, and females did used to not want play video games before the times changed.

[@PlamThePlam]

What is also sexist is how every woman in some games is like the strongest of bosses , and how the feminist agenda crosed over to the game industry , games aren`t sexist only at women , but also at men , there are a bunch of games , where men are stupid and women are smart for no reason than their gender , there are games, where the core idea is to brutally murder your ex , because he broke up with you , and no , KZbin , I don`t want more of those ads . Please just stop giving me ads for games , where I am supposed to fight some men , because "they are the bad guys" , because they broke up with the character I am supposed to be , I hate when that happens. I also hate when there is this idea , that men are dumber and slower as stats , when in reality , the smartest and the fastest of the world people are mostly , if not even fully taken by males . And for the last time , I don`t want to vote for bloomberg . The point I am trying to make is that vedio games are trying to get feminists happy by making sexist against men games , then complain about how they aren`t seen as equal to everyone , plus , gaming is not to be for someone , but for everyone , you can`t compensate for being sexist with more sexism

[@theresatrauger5241]

sims 4 recently added a customizable genders and gender representation

[@thedoctor4554]

Yeah it's great

[@BMoney8600]

Really?

[@HimaHyuuga]

I know that made me so happy

[@gamertime6087]

Yeah! In the CAS menu you can give your person opposite gender outifts! Its so cool!

[@idg33]

Woo!

[@avas.9712]

wait till dream daddy

[@casualcyberguy1314]

Ava S. FIXED even though this is from along ago

[@katiemclean2188]

Ava S. Oh God you're right

[@littleannasmith-secondary]

Lol right?

[@juliacortez5516]

Ava S., message from the future

[@gayprinceofzora1884]

can you even count dream daddy though? after all its a gay dating sim. if you really want to break this i would mention kun jin from mk

[@inkribbonss_9737]

"... Who is a male but identifies as a female." Me:.......... Grell much?

[@senpaisassypants5844]

I WANT TO HAVE YOUR BABIES! -Grell Sutcliff, best black butler quote of all time

[@sam-roll9828]

YES BLACK BUTLER FANS

[@kristalenz376]

OMFG KUROSHITSUKI/BB REFERENCE

[@morganwatson4545]

Woo grell!

[@JackieNoBones]

OMG BLACK BUTLER!!! SEBASTIAN IS BAE!!

[@geiam6133]

Not to talk about the pansexual characters that are always nymphomaniac aliens 😒

[@macbean3446]

and the nonbinary characters as well!

[@BoondoggleMyCognle]

@@macbean3446 meme identity

[@beefrank2082]

"Are video games anti-lgbt?" Overwatch: "oh btw this character is gay too"

[@mariannecrews4263]

Newer game older video

[@purpleblue]

Marianne Crews no Overwatch came out in 1998 smh fake fan

[@mariannecrews4263]

@@purpleblue XD Nice troll atempt, or obtuse joke. Man.... if games like that existed back then. Gawd I'm old. I remember when Pokemon just came out, as well as Final Fantasy VII. It is good to see the industry evolving.

[@michaelmahoney3509]

Leah yeah but you saw how people reacted to soldier 76 being confirmed as gay... My explore page was full of videos complaining about it for weeks.

[@slushie8066]

||-//

[@audrepoison566]

This was so ahead of its time

[@Otome_chan311]

People were gendering trans women correctly in 1900. So "game theory"s view on trans people is still stuck in the 1800s at least.

[@peteroselador6132]

@@Otome_chan311 Considering that at this point, MatPat's terminology was most likely coming from RuPaul though, I'd say that was simply a lack of education and not a lapse in humanity. So many games since this video have portrayed LGBTQ+ characters in a much more positive light, (even going so far as to include gay CONSTRUCTION WORKERS in some cases), and it would not surprise me if some of that started when creators like MatPat began calling the gaming industry out on it. I DO NOT agree with Mat misgendering the characters. All I'm saying is that he was legitimately trying to do a service to the LGBTQ+ community, and that he most likely just didn't know how pronouns work at the time he filmed it.

[@Froggy309]

@@peteroselador6132 Yes it doesn't help that it was made five years ago. Even though it wasn't that long ago trans issues wasn't very.... Out there I guess

[@janpfg2822]

@@Froggy309 I would personally say that for time it was released it was rather progressive and even though there were some mistakes they are mostly mistakes nowadays since all of this did get more focus nowadays. Not meaning it wasn't wrong, but that it wasn't seen as bad and so it took longer to realize the mistake himself. I also am pretty sure he has learned a lot more in the past years :)

[@CooperGooper]

Yep

[@friskybitzboi]

It's okay tho, we have Undertale now

[@bandie8224]

...Excellent.

[@debe__]

+Michelle Cudebec cough cough lesbian cough

[@debe__]

F4660T MCGEE what? i said lesbian because in the episode they say it's okay in games to be lesbian for some reason

[@lightnightsky]

+BowlerHatStudios Well I'd say it's an exception considering they're not exactly meant to be sexy... They also have the two male guards who fall for each other, although they're minor characters. Metatton as well!

[@kaijaakins821]

+Light NS undyne and alphys are lesbians/bi... so...

[@sxlver.soul4623]

Well. 5 years later. We need another.

[@soap-bubbles]

Very true

[@orangejuice9102]

*Nervously chuckles in 2021*

[@hawks1627]

@@orangejuice9102 Honestly *Same*

[@soccerruben1]

*Nervously chuckles because one of the guys who jumpstarted Matt’s channel (Scott from FNAF), donated to politicians who doesn’t think LGBTQ people shouldn’t have rights.*

[@sxlver.soul4623]

@@soccerruben1 || *ahaha isnt that great*

[@Sud0wood0]

You guys notice that girls are expected to "experiment" with their friends and college and shit, but guys are expected to be 100% hetero and masculine all the time.

[@dnaruto2]

i say that to people all the time its so dumb guys can't even take a pea in the urinal beside another guy without someone thinking its gay but girls get naked and play together in the locker rooms

[@Sud0wood0]

Donald Lewis I think it's a male oriented world that kind of made it that way.

[@CheeseMakesMeWiggle]

Donald Lewis I'm sorry but I got the most hilarious image from your typo of two dudes just leaving a pea in a urinal and walking away...

[@zombies4evadude24]

Yup. Bi/gay women being demeaned through sexualization while Bi/gay men are demeaned with outright rejection. What can I say; we live in a society…

[@PurplezzMusic]

@@zombies4evadude24 well sexualisation is from the guys and most of the guys are STRAIGHT which means they are not into dicks which means lesbian porn is considered hot to them that's why lesbians are sexualised

[@wahabihobofilms7427]

Who else remembered when this theory was new? #LoyalTheorist

[@doky7174]

WahabiHoboFilms #LoyalTheorist

[@nomad5544]

#LoyalTheorist

[@MissWeasleyy]

I dont... #unloyalTheorist

[@EldritchGorly]

No. #ImNewHere

[@molly1211]

Who cares, honestly?

[@CirqueDuGalaxy]

There's something that some people in these comments seem to not understand; it's not that LGBT characters are being portrayed as villains, nut jobs, and/or inhuman that's the issue, it's that the majority of LGBT characters are portrayed as this. Heterosexual characters have been portrayed in the same light as LGBT characters, but they've also been equally seen as normal upstanding members of society and glorious superhuman heroes. And when there is LGBT characters, it's heavily sexualized and/or stereotyped. But as a bisexual transwoman, I can say that it seems to be getting better as of late. Games like Mass Effect 3, Skyrim, Fable, Fallout, Sims, Saints Row 4, etc., etc. all have bisexual features allowing you to date/bang anyone of your preferred sex. However there's some issues that do need addressing. The biggest one is writing a story with LGBT characters seems to be a challenge for most story driven games, most writers basically place a "I'M GAY" neon sign on top of the gay characters' heads. They still tend to lean towards LGBT tropes, stereotypes, and sexualization to make their point that they're gay, bi, or transgender. Luckily some games, like Skyrim, make them act like normal people in their respective world, but those characters are optional love interests and not part of the main story. The Last of Us did it right though and should be a shining example of how to portray a gay character. And while we're on the subject of hashtags and LGBT in this video. Nintendo, I want gay relationships in my Tomodachi Life! #Miiquality

[@DDDD-ej9ic]

TOO LONG!!!!!!!!!

[@YourHighnessHannah]

DDDD to long.*

[@DrQuorgeTheConqueror]

Fable did a good job of this normalizing of LGBT sexuality. While it is very simplistic, it is really compelling how the game used sexuality as a randomly generated stat in NPCs. Many almost identical NPCs could have totally different sexual preferences.

[@DrQuorgeTheConqueror]

Thiqz TV 2lng*

[@miniyoshi9010]

I'm so glad you mentioned The Last of Us in that! I was thinking about how well that game portrayed Bill without a big 'I'm gay!' sign above his head. Bill was seen as a strong, independent and very capable character and any mental issues he may have had were quite heavily shown to be due to his isolation in the town. Ellie is another example. The 'Left Behind' DLC showed the gay kiss between Ellie and Riley, which did not become a huge part of the game, but really added to the story. In interviews with the writer, it was confirmed that Ellie is in fact gay, something which I found fantastic since she herself is portrayed in an amazing light throughout the main game and DLC. She's a bad-ass with integrity to boot. The Last of Us really did do it right, and from everything I've witnessed so far from Naughty Dog, they really can do no wrong. My favourite developer!

[@diegotorres-be2wq]

Isabelle from Animal Crossing: New Leaf is actually bisexual. She's attracted to the mayor regardless of their gender! AND, she CLEARLY wasn't a villain, a very, VERY, nice person and kind and harmless would be how I would describe her. ALSO, she wasn't censored in America's release! Even though she isn't drag or acts too seriously upon her bisexual feelings, she still IS bisexual, and this was CONFIRMED BY NINTENDO OF AMERICA. AND Isabelle hasn't been labeled as anything but positive things in later additions to the series, and since her groundbreaking debut in New Leaf, has been in EVERY GAME, and STILL remains bisexual. So maybe she's a sign of hope for all. And now with games like Journey, that have characters who are gender-neutral, there's now hope for a better tomorrow. So, my point is, please like this comment MatPat, hehe

[@theentirecircus8490]

This was made in 2014

[@spookyles7483]

@Tea Dragon bisexual means more than one gender lots of people think it just means guys and girls but pansexaul is just a alternate term that makes it clear they like genderless people too,bisexuals also like genderless people

[@sootish]

@@spookyles7483 No, there is a difference between the two. If you're bisexual you like all genders, but have a preference. If you're pansexual, you don't have a gender preference.

[@kuprum7]

@@sootish bisexual people can like people regardless of gender and not have a preference. i respect pansexual people, but bisexual already covers that. bisexual is liking 2 or more genders, it says nothing about preferences

[@sootish]

@@kuprum7 search it up on wikipedia

[@jazzydragon4498]

Dragon Age is a pretty big game and it also includes lesbian or gay relationships with the other characters. In Skyrim, although it isn't a big part of the game, includes options to marry the same gender as well. We all know how big Skyrim is too. So, yeah.

[@jazzydragon4498]

Oh, and Life is Strange technically has a lesbian relationship between Chloe and Max if you choose the right dialogue options. But, the game came after this video was created.

[@livale8337]

That's true, and I love Dragon Age to bits, but all the substantial or game changing romances are straight. Alistar for example, as well as Solas. Plus it wasn't until Inquisition we got characters who were just gay and not bi (no bi hate it's just two straight and two bi an equality does not make) And honestly, Sera wasn't a great character.

[@jazzydragon4498]

However, I did enjoy Dorian in Dragon Age: Inqusition for his sarcastic sense of humor. He is also gay in the game. Besides, Sera isn't that bad. I managed to warm up to her and I experienced some of the most hilarious dialogue I've ever seen in a game.

[@jazzydragon4498]

Well, that's alright. I guess I got used to her crazy/rude shenanigans. In the game, I managed to become friends with all my companions. I know that some companions won't get along well with others. But that's alright though. You just have to find a way to deal with them and their unique way of seeing things and still have everyone on your side. However, even though I did become friends with her, I'm still not so keen about Vivienne.

[@livale8337]

Jazzy Wood In the case of Sera and Vivienne they're like those people who are intensely hellbent in believing misinformation. Sera sees one blood mage and decides that all mages must be evil terrorists. And Vivienne is under the impression that the Circle in infallibly in both comfort and knowledge, not acknowledging that good Spirits are capable of existing, and assuming that the standard of living for mages is the same as in Orlais (In which the circle practically get 5 star hotel rooms to house their mages) I wouldn't be so against them if you could help them understand that what they believe is based entirely on misinformation, but you can't. Even Fenris changes his mind slightly and his judgement of mages is lifted, if you follow the right course. And he has good reason for his beliefs, not just rampant misinformation. Sorry I get really passionate about this topic. As much as I love the Dragon Age series I feel like the writers just haven't been doing a good job as of late in certain aspects.

[@ArtemisDianaApollo]

I went into this with pretty low expectations, but you blew them out of the water. Your analysis is very comprehensive and well-thought out. Watching the video, it seems clear you learned a lot while you were researching, and I'm glad you decided to include what you learned in your video. It's a bigger problem than many people realise, and raising awareness of the problem is the first step towards changing it. Thank you for doing such a good job on this

[@Otome_chan311]

He slandered pro-LGBT companies and games as bigoted, and he himself pushed transphobia, misgendered trans women, and misunderstood japanese lgbt culture. I haven't seen a video handle these topics *worse* than this.

[@princesspinhead4516]

Kafke so?

[@otsogronberg6193]

lol gay

[@sweezy1715]

only in America would this be considered a "big problem" lmao we are so out of touch these days

[@missmrvee]

Well he *does* know what hes talking about! He has been doing this for years now 👌

[@aletomochan]

As a Trans person I just want to say thank you matpat for making an objective, clear cut video about how misrepresented he LGBTQ community is in video games. I hesitated watching this video even though it came up in my suggested quite frequently, mostly because I felt the question matpat posed at the end 'are game companies just giving us the storylines the heterosexual male gamers are comfortable playing?' Was a truth that I'd faced many times throughout my life while playing video games. But when I saw the video of the speech that he gave at VidCon, I felt a newfound sense of trust in him. I'd always enjoyed his videos but didn't know if he was an inclusive and open youtuber, since, many youtubers regardless of the content they make, take the easy way out and avoid "sensitive" topics altogether. But you really proved me wrong in the best way. Thank you matpat. For not being afraid to speak the hard truths that many people refuse to even touch with a 10 foot pole. I applaud you. Keep being awesome.

[@conniecooks9910]

Tomono love this

[@lillian6250]

This sums up exactly how I feel about this video !

[@kadh9941]

Anon1...

[@airkid4457]

@Anon 1 transgender, not gender disphoria, 2 not a cult, 3 they did not say they where crying!

[@Tenatic-X]

Anon 1 educate yourself on the different sexualities escpecially trans by how ignorant you're commenting about trans. smh

[@themindelectricdemo4]

This video has aged surprisingly well for how old it is the only I wish matpat did was talk a little how the only reason lesbian couples weren’t censored was so straight guys could over sexualise them lol

[@VioletxVelvet]

This video proves that games are anti-lgbt. The comments prove that the gaming community is anti-lgbt.

[@ethangray8527]

And that's a good thing.

[@colincrompton]

Not all of us, and not all game developers, we'll just have to hope it gets better.

[@ethangray8527]

Colin Crompton Better?

[@VioletxVelvet]

Alex Steel I could come up with a witty response, or respond with a very lengthy paragraph involving decades of evidence, but instead I will simply say: Fuck you, Alex Steel. Fuck you.

[@nhf1CoCa]

Wrong, the games shown in this video as being 'anti lgbt' are old games, probably late 90's to very early 00's. We as a society are just starting to be more accepting of homosexuality, and the games industry over the past 5 years has started to reflect that. I'll give just one example of a recent game that shows LGBT in a good light: Dragon Age. Both games allow same sex relationships whether your character is male or female. There are a number of companions that engage in or hint at wanting a homosexual relationship. Bioware have done a great job in creating a game world that has very similar cultural beliefs to our world, only homosexuality is a lot more acceptable.

[@MsStonedAgin]

I don't care what they are, so long as the characters are written well.

[@thestmal]

Right!

[@josephcolon5812]

then why are u here watching this video

[@MsStonedAgin]

+Joseph Colon Because I like the Game Theorists...? Why are you here? Why does it matter?

[@annemarteb2536]

+Joseph Colon I think that he's trying to say that it doesn't matter to him if a character is straigth, gay, trans, etc. if the character has a good plot and a good backstory that makes them an interesting character

[@fan9775]

J. Worthington Foulfellow Sounds like hard work...PASS!

[@KirstenBii]

this makes me so happy, ive been scrolling down the comments and i still haven't found one homophobic comment

[@kelleymccarron4040]

I've been scrolling forever and I've rarely seen anything but homophobia

[@yue_buncake44]

Bleach Cocktails too late. Check the arguments in the post. Matter of fact, don't since you sound so blissful. 😥

[@FoxyGuyHere]

I have found hundreds.

[@RuiYou-uo4do]

I wish... Scroll around and click down. I just took about 5 minutes to read a thread about homophobia, oh gods...

[@JulezJunk]

xX Baiyu Xx same... it's so f*cking disgusting

[@odothedoll2738]

Seeing this as an 11 year old did something to me. Thanks mat.

[@hypnos9336]

your parents shouldn't have let you use the internet at age 11. very irresponsible.

[@odothedoll2738]

@@hypnos9336 well too late now innit

[@TheHutchIsOn]

@@odothedoll2738yeah come on now lol. KZbin is literally built for children nowadays so the thought that kids from 2006-2014 were responsible and avoided youtube is ridiculous

[@jackb450]

​@@TheHutchIsOn id also like to say that unironically kids watching KZbin back then was safer due to (KZbin) being a new thing (relatively) for everybody then it is today

[@JelloApocalypse]

Whoa whoa whoa champ, that Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle of the Flesh example's pretty far off the mark. For one thing, there's another gay character in that game, Curtis's best friend Trevor, and he's not only a good guy but also the objective best character in the game. Also: Curtis isn't a sadist. At best he's a masochist, and a reluctant one if that. He's dating a character who IS a sadist and she introduces him to the concept. They sleep together a few times and he's always worse for the wear in the end. The sadism is mostly there to put in some dark psychological horror when space aliens mess with his mind and force him to imagine parts of his body being ripped away. ...Not really sure why S&M is being associated as a negative characteristic here at all, really. Volgin I get, he tortures people to death, but that's sociopathic sadism, not exactly the same thing as what Curtis goes through.

[@ocarinaguy41]

Looks like ALL the hate magnets are coming to the thread. Someone had to say it, and I'm glad it was you Jello.

[@JelloApocalypse]

Spencerkin live This video does make some good points, but I think its outlook is way too negative . A lot of these examples are from AGES ago, and lumping "video games" together as a single category and proposing that they might be "Anti-Gay" is kind of goofy. Each game is made by a different team with a different mindset in different cultures. Claiming the medium could even be one thing is a pretty bold move in general.

[@Personell101]

JelloApocalypse Thank God. I was starting to feel like a bad person for feeling like his examples were a little overboard, when everyone else was just praising them.

[@IMANOOBSHOOTME]

JelloApocalypse ^ This. I will never understand why someone who claims to be intelligent would lump all of something into a single category. That is the most narrow minded thing someone could do.

[@Gur0friendd]

Hi jello

[@emirose3395]

This video is amazing just because Matpat spent so long explaining the different types of drag. Update: Now I feel really sad, uGh

[@bailingfromthecart6838]

Emi Rose I'm with you on the sad thing. These sorts of videos always bring tears to my eyes.

[@narebeaset1]

moomoomoomoomoomoo

[@snackusshackus9131]

Also the one of the biggest series, Elder Scrolls, allows gay and lesbian relations

[@nerdaitami7205]

Fionn Norton and you could cross dress in morrowind...

[@ilikeyourbody7599]

They just react, talk and treat you as if you were the opposite gender though. They don't even acknowledge the fact that your a dude when your dating guys and vice versa when your dating women which makes the dialogue feel weird.

[@dadsnatcher3444]

+Fionn Norton TIME TO BUY ELDER SCROLLS. I'M GONNA BE THE GAYEST CHARACTER EVER

[@nerdaitami7205]

korra The people of Skyrim are more open-minded about certain things than people in other places. (yes that's a M'aiq quote...)

[@dadsnatcher3444]

NerdA Itami You are so right it hurts.

[@BeanieBabyXx]

I think Undertale was the first game where I saw a homosexual couple and I was fine with it because Undyne and Alphys are adorable together.

[@luciafernandez8595]

firts time i saw them i almost cried bc i felt so validated

[@BeanieBabyXx]

@@luciafernandez8595 same here honestly, it's now exciting because in deltarune Noelle has a crush on Suzie.

[@auravaury]

Let's not forget that both Alphy and Undyine are Inhuman Villains that are Redeemed

[@innrex9028]

@@auravaury That really depends on how you see it. Undyne tried to save her people by obtaining your soul, so it's the life of a human child for the liberation of hundreds, or thousands of monsters. Alphys did experiments on monsters, but I don't think she's a villain, to be a villain you have to be evil, to *want* to hurt people.

[@scurvofpcp]

@@innrex9028 They both have a degree of amorality to them, Undyne I suspect is willing to carry the sin of killing one human child to save the rest of her kind, and I'm fairly sure she knows it will ruin her in the end. Some lines when you cross them remove you from civilized society and she is self aware enough to know that. Alphys does feel a bit more ambiguous when it comes to amorality, my gut feel is that they may be willing to do some really questionable stuff at times, but won't ever cross over into evil for the lulz area.

[@SuperJedispartan]

You should have said "But that's just a theory. A GAY THEORY!"

[@beatledjb1]

That's rich

[@violetsanddragons]

HaHa! Way to lighten up something serious.

[@wschippr1]

Noah Wiley Or a Queer Theory, as queer Theory is an actual theory used to analyze media :P

[@gothwang7646]

that turned real sad real quick

[@GreenCatKid]

Rvenger Assassin not for me! Lolololololol

[@SatansFire]

Also I think my fave part of this video was you not saying "Both genders" but actually including "other or neither gender" I mean really, no body ever does that and it means alot when i hear somebody include it

[@haisea.670]

Initially he said a line and I became quite spectacle of how the video was going to turn out. The following line was that and I was like "Oh thank god"!!

[@SatansFire]

***** Actually! While tumblr has had a big impact on helping alot of teenagers understand themselves better gender wise these other genders have existed since 1700 AD; Even Egyptians used them! Today majority of people dont know about the existence of these options for gender because of the link from sex to gender itself. Were told that being born one sex means to identify with it for the rest of our lives when thats not that case. Unfortunately youre right with one thing, not alot of people take them seriously, but even if you dont understand or follow by other genders please respect the fact other people will choose to have and keep them. Remember there are plenty of sources if you wish to question me (which is perfectly alright i can understand it might be confusing) Thanks!

[@c.r.3020]

Go back to Tumblr and wait for 4chan's next raid, fucktard.

[@SatansFire]

***** Its fine to identify with the gender you were given ^^ Of course a large portion of people do, i just ask of you to not make fun of others who choose to go by other pronouns mainly because its the right thing to respect others in that way

[@tequilasunrise7308]

***** Scientific evidence? No, science, has nothing to say about self identification. I know this, because I am, in fact, a Scientist. I work in Biology lab in fact, so I'd say I'm pretty well suited to refute you. "Science" only acknowledges that you have female parts, male parts, or both. Self Identification is a social and personal issue, and "Science", being a largely liberal study, won't ever tell anyone they are wrong to identify as whatever they please. I'm glad for you that you have no doubts or question and identify strongly with male aspect of your life. This does not stop other people from making other choices. Its not "Delusional" at all. In fact, for a transgender to try to identify with the parts they were born with would actually be the delusional choice. Also, I disagree with those calling you a fucktard or being harsh, you have every right to state your opinion as well. Just understand that it's not "psychotic behavior" or even wrong, cultures the world over celebrate more than one gender. India in particular has an interesting version of transgender were certain males are female for one day only! And they work as essentially temple prostitutes, where men pay to have sex with them and the proceeds go the temple of (name of Hindu god missing from memory, something about a god who had to become female for a period for some reason or another, any Hindu people feel free to correct any mistakes I make on this part). And heres the important part to remember, for those people, for that society, those men REALLY ARE women for that time period. So, I won't ask that you like it, or that you accept it as even ok, but I will ask that you learn to tolerate others, because it will help YOU as a person in your future, and society as whole.

[@BlueMiaou]

i'm so tired of the misrepresentation of my community. I'm a lesbian and I know for a fact the stereotypes only keep getting circulated because of media.

[@ThePhoenixProduction]

Wait what? In Persona 4 the questionably "gay" guy is later fleshed out to actually just enjoying female hobbies and hated girls for making fun of him about it. And the Girl who cross dresses later has character development to where she is fine being a girl. This doesn't change her attire, but fashion doesn't define gender, pronouns do. It sorta treated homosexuality and opposite gender identity as personal faults or denial or just phases, imo...how is that accepting?

[@whitezerko7783]

+ThePhoinexproduction Best thing about the Persona-argument is, that everyone mentions P4, but close to noone mentions Persona 2: Innocent Sin, which has a canon, gay relationship including the protagonist. In that perspective, Persona is actually regressive, rather than progressive! [Also, Kanji is actually bisexual, but whatever, doesn't really matter.]

[@ThePhoenixProduction]

WhiteZerko I have yet to play P2, you spoiler Lol. I mean I can see how you could assume Kanji is Bi, hell even I'd like to agree with that, but he literally states in his reconciliation with his shadow that he just hated being made fun of by girls. Unless its confirmed somewhere that he's bi...

[@whitezerko7783]

ThePhoinexproduction Well, in the japanese version, at the end of his social link (Which are canon.) he says "That other me... *Is* me." That's why many people assume he is bisexual. It's never stated directly.

[@ThePhoenixProduction]

WhiteZerko I mean I understand japanse people are really implicit unlike the directness of westerners, but that still doesn't mean sexuality. I always saw the shadows as basically children acting out a facade to try and draw away at what's really hurting them. Again I agree my guess is that Kanji is bisexual, but implicit evidence is not evidence, because it involves opinions. There isn't any real evidence for Kanji being bi, is there?

[@whitezerko7783]

ThePhoinexproduction Hm... Yeah, you're right. I would want him to be bi or gay, but if there's no evidence pinting to it... Meaning P2 will stay the only Persona-game to date with a homosexual character/ relationship.

[@clowney218]

I like how he shows how serious this is, because it is and it's important not to joke about it, so thanks mattpatt

[@piotrdomagalski5096]

Why can't gays drive faster than 68 mph? Because at 69 they blow a rod. Did you hear about the gay vegan? He still eats meat. Wait, I've got more! What do you call a gay dentist? Tooth fairy. K, 1 more and I'll leave. What do you call a 5-man gay mariachi band? Juan Direction

[@Mrpug-zi1gf]

What do you call a homophobe? Piotr Domagalski!

[@brobot500]

What do you call an idiot that can’t take a joke? Mr.pug1234

[@duckygamer4059]

You know why almost all Hamburgers and hotdogs are naked? Because you can see their buns! :) lololololololololololololol

[@Spike-xv1ts]

so THATS why i always relate to the villians xD

[@keirazmudkipz1765]

O w

[@hauntedteethcupboard]

Ha same

[@evastoyanova8398]

Omg same

[@Pablo_Martin_aa]

Yeeep

[@queen_strawberries]

same

[@hldr4345]

This video is certainly ahead of its time for gaming communities, but, in hindsight, it has problems with some implications, and it's sad that he didn't workshop it with more sociology and philosophy. It's a nice thought, and the video is very well put together, but it did feel a little short for how massive the subject matter at hand. I do appreciate Matthew's attempts to shine some light into a contemporary issue at the time, thank you, Matt

[@DatFelryn]

what if LBGT's were actually apart of "god's plan" as a test to see if we love one another :[]

[@ooccttoo]

+Dat Felryn I like that idea

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

+Slaves to Armok I dont think his massive ego would have made plan to hide him self. more like 'look how damn great I am' and made a massive monument for him self...christ the creation story makes sense if you think about it that way. we are the gods monument for his great ego.

[@AvalynTheAccursed]

+Dat Felryn We got an F. BOMBED IT! :D

[@DatFelryn]

Kurt Rustle ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Kappa ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Kappa ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@billythekidd4571]

And what if our efforts to stop gay marriage is a way to see how faithful we are to Gods word?

[@mo6305]

Not to mention how female same sex relationships are WAAAAY oversexualized and portrayed as consistently shallow one-night-stands.

[@124tutt2]

Note to everyone watching: this theory is very old. At this time there was not many LGBT+ games or at least there were not many mainstream.

[@uhno7543]

Sarah T. there still arent very many mainstream lgbt+ games, js

[@nataliyahpastel3890]

Sarah T. There is really only Dream daddy

[@moduspwnenz]

and? not much better now, fool

[@Staroham]

I don’t understand homophobia. At the very least, why does it matter to you? What will anyone’s relationships do to hurt you

[@auravaury]

Trust me, me neither, but I can't get enough of it everyday. All I did was identifying as the opposite gender and suddenly you're public enemy #1

[@youtubesucks8340]

@@auravaury well you’re outing yourself as a freak to the public, you think that wouldn’t attract attention?

[@visiblerat]

@@youtubesucks8340 Wow thanks for epitomizing the growing alt-right radical trends developing on yt. Go back to the 19th century.

[@youtubesucks8340]

@@visiblerat No.

[@Aldrnarii]

@@youtubesucks8340 Go on, chop chop, crawl back to your own corner of the internet little troll

[@annn5700]

Watching this videos millions of year after it came out

[@cnsdocumented9561]

Thinks to self, "why u no say anything about Undyne and Alphys?" Looks at date, "oh"

[@spork1423]

alphdyne is my #OTP

[@MrSimonBG]

wow 1 game

[@bluedragon3085]

no stop

[@ArceeDuette]

I thought the same with "what about Tracer, a hero and the character on the covers of Overwatch? "

[@somecynic808]

Angelwing He goes further on in the video that lesbians are often portrayed as okay, but not gay men

[@Saith23]

I'm not surprised that the LGBT comunity is shown this way some times. After all it's always been this way, up until more modern times.. I live in the UK where gay right laws have been passed. But i live in a part of the country that isn't always so friendly about it. So I dunno maybe having a game that shows we're not that bad, would be good? I know there are already games portraying gay characters in a good light, and it's great! But maybe a few more wouldn't hurt. Just a thought.

[@ninifroggies6762]

I totally agree

[@Saith23]

Caoimhe C. Hey don't worry about it to much, there will be people that won't stop with the name calling. (A lot of people do it in my school too, but half the time i don't think they know what they're really saying.) And there are people that are understanding. Just don't let people get to ya. I don't know if you are in the LGBTQA, but if you are it'll get better, and if not thanks for supporting :)

[@caoimh3]

Seren Rawlins I just wish my friends would except it more. Also I am currently questioning as I really am just confused about my sexuality. Might be bi, might be demi, no clue really

[@Saith23]

+Caoimhe C. Your friends probably just don't understand it the way you do, maybe they just need time to be informed about it. If they don't like it it's there problem, so just be careful with that. And i know what you mean just try things out, and don't be afraid of your feelings. it's natraul for humans to be confused about sexuality. so take your time! :3

[@caoimh3]

Seren Rawlins thanks. It doesn't help that I'm extremely shy and socially awkward as well as having some form of social anxiety. That is why I live on KZbin and tumblr. It's gotten to the point where I drew different youtuber logos on my wall. Yeah, I may need help...

[@demonicartist1920]

Matpat: mentions 2 types of non-binary in 2014 Me: Cries in dysphoric.

[@coalspruce]

At least we have Dream Daddy...

[@wylowz6410]

haha same and the sims 4

[@scbbie]

yes.

[@duncetalon7450]

And Butterfly Soup

[@jellyfishboyy4442]

Alphys, Undyne and Mettaton are LGBT+, right? (idk about mettaton but Undyne and Alphys definitely are) EDIT: And yes, I do realize this video came out before Undertale)

[@caullienestaaqui8254]

RandomNerdyGamer Mettaton is implied to be a trans guy, since ghosts are showed as genderless in the game.

[@kpopgoblin6590]

you're right! Chara and Frisk are Agender (no gender) and Papyrus is asexual I think.

[@MaoRatto]

Alphy and Undyne ( the bitch ) is a Lesbian, Chara could be classified as a GIRL due to having more feminine actions, and Mettaton is a hunk of metal and a soul! Papyrus is underaged, and Sans is heterosexual.

[@KanraLovesHumans]

Feminine actions? Uh. Whut. Going by that, I gotta break the news to a bunch of people (myself included) that we're all a bunch of girls now >_< Chara's just Chara lol

[@MaoRatto]

ToSitInSolemnSilence Well Chara looks more FEMALE then MALE! Hell the blushed cheeks is more feminine, and seems more appropriate for *it* to be a female anyway... Girls are different from boys, and boys are different from girls. WHY CAN'T ANYONE IN LGBT Get that? Hell the Trans side of things is the saddest. Due to transgender sometimes isn't 100% black and white, there is different forms of TransGenders, there is Gender dysphoria, but there is treatment for it.. First stages is loosing association with their sex, but can be cured.. Then sometimes it can't. It's 50%/50%. Never change your biological sex, but sexual orientation is hard to gain acceptance.. Allot of dying countries had homosexuality influence in the. Ancient Romans died off and accepted it before the death of the country right before Christianity fixed the country back to moral.

[@fudanshiyaoi7808]

It’s not only girls who write fanfics

[@sillylittlerainbowchild9504]

Certainly not

[@gsgabe4799]

Yeah, and it's really sad.

[@SetTheSeasAblaze]

Ikr

[@greyonyx61]

I get it! Your name is fudanshi! That’s great! 🤣

[@dutch_asocialite]

It's largely girls who write the worst ones though...

[@WadelDee]

In Tomodachi Life, people of opposite genders could form relationships while people of same genders could form friendships. This was criticized. Nintendo did not change this in an update. However, they said that they were going to have a different system in future games. Just thought I'd drop this random piece of information out there.

[@ezzymo1]

Nice

[@emargaux]

When I was a kid playing a Sims game in my PSP, I was supposed to choose a person to kiss. I chose to kiss a crying woman and the game just allowed me. That's not anti-gay.

[@ishouldbesleeping7069]

Emem but 'the sims' has given in and has become lgbt+ supportive in a way. you can make trans people *and* gay people in The Sims 4 now.

[@recruitymcfruity5232]

This vid is tulle

[@inaki3551]

Nintendo will always be inferior to other companies. In terms of graphics quality, available games and morality...

[@bluedwarfmc8033]

My Snake is Solid I wouldn't say that

[@inaki3551]

BlueDwarfMC You mean you wouldn't say the truth so.

[@Pantonym]

Lesbians are okay because all men find that hot but two men together? Noooooooooo that's insane

[@whatthefridge1o1]

Nico van Wyk 01 yup totally confuses me

[@jadebeason7552]

Captinlrocat, if not one thinks that, then why do a lesbian seen as good, while gay men as often seen as bad? Why are lesbians fetishized and seen as sexy?

[@jadebeason7552]

Not as common. It's very common to see two females together and have someone call it hot. People are more accepting of it because it is a common fetish for people, while often times gay men are not seen as 'hot' or 'sexy. For someone critiquing my English, you have remarkably bad grammar and spelling. I am not being hetrophobic by pointing out that lesbian are seen as hot while gay men are more commonly not. I used no buzzwords, and by pointing out something doesn't make someone hetrophobic, as just like homophobia is the seeing them as less, and in o one did I imply that. The majority of men are straight, and so while it makes sense that they see two females as hot, the majority of women do not make two gay men a fetish, you seem not to understand this.

[@jadebeason7552]

Incorrect. First off, your spelling makes it hard to understand what you are saying. There is a problem with catering to straight men, it ignores women and anyone of a different sexuality. It sees straight men as the most important, despite the fact that they are not the majority. In fact, there are more women in the world then men, and so if it is catering to the majority, it should be catering to bisexual women, as that is actually the majority. There are more bisexual women then straight women, as multiple studies show. You really should stop calling others kiddo, since you write like you are in the second grade, and present faulty arguments.

[@jadebeason7552]

Incorrect once more. If you criticize someone’s English you better at least spell correctly. Those sites you linked, those were debunked. You have no way of knowing whether or not any of us are children, and so calling us ‘child’ is demeaning, rude, and makes you seem like a douche. How have I been racists? I never mentioned race, or said that females or males are in anyway better then the other. You are grasping at straws, and quoting false studies, one ‘study’ ‘debunking’ ten other studies, yeah you need to do better research. You didn’t provide links until you were shown to be wrong, and your own links are incorrect. Honestly, you are just an asshole, you started by insulting everyone and calling them wrong for quoting an opinion, a common opinion as well.

[@arcanejazz]

No matter what the uninformed and hateful idiots will say in reply to this, I am so thankful that you made this video. Nobody wants to admit there is a problem, but there is.

[@samclaxton100]

or maybe there isnt and we just live in a world full of fucking cry babies

[@arcanejazz]

You sound like someone that has never faced discrimination or hate crimes, you're lucky.

[@turntechunderground3144]

ahhh man i watched this video when it first came out, i was like 11 and i was less than a year away from realizing i was not cis (he/they) and about 4 years away from realizing that im gay... obviously a lot of the language used is outdated af LMAO but it was one of the only things that sticks out in my childhood as really making me feel heard and understood this video means too much to me for me to be able to explain in a youtube comment, im really glad it was published :)