Gay? What GAY?! | r/SapphoAndHerFriend

[@JonahIronstone]

Re: "How is it possible for a woman to have a wife?" When I was a kid, my dad's best friends were a lesbian couple. (One of them gave me my first microscope!) When I was about four or five, I asked who their husbands were. My dad explained that they didn't have husbands, they loved each other-- like, holding hands love. They wanted to get married. I was very confused-- "But which one's gonna wear the tuxedo?" Big concern, that. "I bet it's [N]," I continued, "because she's taller." That made it all make sense. So long as someone wore the tuxedo, it was all good.

[@Schnort]

Duuuuude microscopes are so cool

[@vidyasreeram2587]

That's so cute ❤️

[@raffaelefrau9789]

You made me think of my oc in a tuxedo cuz shes tall af Oh my GOD

[@16poetisa]

Kid logic lol 😂

[@TitularHeroine]

I love this story!! 🤩

[@matrixmilky596]

the ace attorney comic took me out man. i was doin something else while the video was on and i heard the words "intellectually attracted" and i immediately knew something aa related was on

[@bookmarkobjectanimations123]

Honestly, i headcanon that pheonix and edgeworth are a couple lol.

[@twiggledowntown3564]

Have you read the Sonic Comics? I'm just wondering, since you have one of the characters as your icon.

[@matrixmilky596]

@@twiggledowntown3564 yeah! im currently keeping up with the sonic idw comics! sure enough surge is my favorite character so far lol

[@shincci]

Ace Attorney gave us gays the "unnecessary feelings" mlms and "intellectually attracted" wlws 🙏

[@twiggledowntown3564]

@@matrixmilky596 I checked out one of the comics at my local library a few years back, and I swear they almost are always checked out.

[@cynhanrahan4012]

When my cousin died, her obit read "Lived with her best friend for 25 years" without naming her partner of 25 years. It just broke my heart.

[@user-cf2xi5wd2d]

That's horrid. I'm so sorry

[@oceanmariep256]

That lesbian bff card has to be ironic or meant to be subtle enough for closeted lesbians. It definitely feels like something someone would give her girlfriend as a joke.

[@gergyta9211]

If I had a gf id give her that card 😂

[@mayplaysgames7978]

I need to get this for my gf xD

[@sockpuppetcow]

And the greek myths we do get taught have the gay parts conveniently omitted. We learn about Achilles, but never hear a word about him and Patroclus and how megagay they were.

[@lampekartoffel]

This part has always baffled me. Did you seriously never learn that Achilles and Patroclus were lovers? Cause there sure as heck weren't anyone hiding that from me or my classmates and while there definitely was a bigger focus on the cishet Greek myths, we were also taught about the spartan army's encouragement of the soldiers having sex to strengthen their bonds and give their all for their fellow soldiers. We were also taught about the origin myth of how love started - which also explains why some feel same sex attraction. I can't imagine how you could even be taught about ancient Greece without learning about at least the M|M stories...

[@isabellecasier5702]

I was taught that in the greek ancient times couples where promecious and gay was openly displayed as normal. A whole island has been dedicated to greek mytholigy and the gay experience. Leonardi da Vinci was gay or bi, not mutch confirmed because he lived in a strict catholic era and as sculptur and painter he lived off the commissions of the church. There is a reason why we still debate if the Mona Lisa is a female or male. On the other hand my classmate who was gay was throw out of the house with 1 bag of clothes when he came out of the closet ('80) luckely he had a sister and stellar classmates who copied their books and transcript for him so he could resume school in a wimp (thanks to the school lending the office copiermachine). But I was educated in Europe, we do tent to go by the ment "If it does not hurts me, let it be"

[@sundalosketch4769]

Most of the time they want you to hyper fixate on Zeus's promiscuous life, the Hades and Persephone, and other hetero/misogynystic tales that exist. Like- they'd rather talk about how much Hera's life sucked over gay stories.

[@Rotten_Ralph]

My problem with Troy in a nutshell. His cousin right, he went mad with grief about his cousin

[@MrDoggoCraft]

Yes

[@beardlessdragon]

I don't believe in ghosts, but if people changed the pronouns of my partner in my love letters after I died, my ghost would haunt the f*** outta them for eternity

[@xd._.28234]

🤣🤌🏼

[@abigail4816]

"Is two guys cuddling gay?" That's for those guys to decide, not a random onlooker who knows not the context of their affection. "Is two girls cuddling gay?" That's for those girls to decide, not a random onlooker who knows not the context of their affection.

[@thatonebonkchoyguy]

Context is important. Some older kids walked past me and my friends while I was trying to explain that liking femboys isn't gay because they look like women. Context is _very_ important.

[@skylarmercykilled1986]

It can be 'gay' yes, but it can also be purely platonic, only the two people involved know which type of affection it is.

[@cheese0827]

However whether they're gay or not, they look cute as hell

[@commandercorl1544]

Exactly! No one decides your label except you!

[@schokoloko2092]

🙏 words

[@xxmerrydeathxx]

At the peak of the "Little Miss/Mr" trend, my local yarn shop posted a bunch of ones about crafting. One of them was "Little Mx. Dropped a Stitch" and I felt personally attacked. Like thanks for having one with a gender-neutral/nonbinary form of address, but as a nonbinary person who frequently drops stitches, you don't have to call me out like that lol

[@Lisa_Flowers]

As a fellow nonbinary person who also constantly drops stitches, I also feel thoroughly dragged and want it on a shirt

[@cyan.-]

@@krimsonkatt yeahh. Mrs woukd be good but that's already a thing. First thing I thought of was mc

[@lolymop333]

@@krimsonkatt What I use is Mm. (Mistrum). The gender neutral equivalent to "-trix" (as in Mistress) and "-tor" (as in Mister) in Latin was "-trum". I can't think of a good way to modify it like we did -trix and -tor, but -trum works well enough. Also, it probably stemmed from algebra.

[@violet7773]

@@krimsonkatt the problem with "M" is that that stands for Monsieur in French

[@lolymop333]

@@krimsonkatt Mm. IS an alternative.

[@user-rd5hs2cl6g]

In English language we were learning about the poem “War Photographer”, and we were talking about context, when our teacher told us that Carol Anne Duffy was a lesbian! It was such a simple thing to say, but it made my day to hear a teacher not erase the history of a writer just because they’re gay!

[@ameliab324]

My teacher is not even positive about LGBT+, but when he knew that the author of something was homosexual and it was relevant to their art, he'd tell us. It shouldn't be a matter of one's views, it's just facts.

[@rorolilred]

Omg!!! Yet another poet I studied at school who I didn't know was queer!!

[@afairyist9981]

The Ace Attorney one was so accurate, they make such a big point of saying Lana meant she was "intellectually" attracted to Mia, there certainly couldn't have been any other kind of attraction there 🤦‍♀️

[@DrZaius3141]

To be fair, an ace attorney wouldn't be interested either way.

[@DonutCare564]

Ace Attorney is very accidently (?) gay lol

[@labellelace]

oKAy and also the fact that two of the writers have openly stated that the series took influence from yaoi and bl tropes and common storylines??? THEN went on to work on bl works both before and after ace attorney finished!?! also they draw everyone, in the words of my sibling, “with huge yaoi hands” and I will never stop screaming abt that lmfao Hello separated child friends reunited to lovers trope???? like that’s why edgeworth and phoenix are ~Like That~ istg

[@sundalosketch4769]

@@labellelace *HUGE YAOI HANDS*

[@shincci]

Lana/Mia is literally my favorite ship in the original AA trilogy. It's just few lines of dialogue but damn they definitely had something going on & poor Ema was too oblivious to realize it. (my fave AA ship in the later 3 games is also minor lesbian ship so guess that's just my type in these games)

[@darrenk284]

I am now very glad that my high school literature teachers did occasionally discuss the sexuality of the authors (E. M. Forster and Carol Ann Duffy, to be specific) and its relevance, even in our very religious high school.

[@TheoRae8289]

There was a vague reference to Dickinson being possibly a lesbian but then the teacher decided she must have been asexual.

[@darrenk284]

@@TheoRae8289 That's funny. Nothing against asexuality, but “Susie… come home… and be my own again, and kiss me as you used to… I hope for you so much, and feel so eager for you… that the expectation… makes me feel hot and feverish, and my heart beats so fast.” doesn't strike me as very asexual.

[@missnaomi613]

Woohoo! Progress!

[@shjobbi]

That's right, I did study a poem by Carol Ann Duffy!

[@PixelatedH2O]

The best friends card felt like it was styled as it was on purpose. It could easily be shared between two girlfriends who're not "out".

[@freyarowell5629]

I went to an amazing ancient Greek exhibition a while ago, and every time they mentioned Patroclus in a story about Achilles they actually called him "his lover" or "his consort", none of this "close friend", "potential lover" or even "male lover" bs. It was awesome to see.

[@Anna-1917]

WTF?? I feel so lied to! I read the Iliad as a kid and I remember he was always referred to as a friend.

[@Seohaila]

Peak lesbian erasure: My sister thinking I'm wearing the rainbow pin to show my support for the LGBTQIA+ community. I outed myself shortly after to her which is when she told me that she always had her suspicions 😂😂🤦🏽‍♀️

[@ameliasellers6396]

Hindsight bias at it's finest.

[@sileudies]

Sorry, but I’m not sure where the gay erasure is /gq

[@xd._.28234]

@@sileudies means when people don't realize someone is lgbt+ or blatantly ommit hints or proofs, like in historian findings(letters, fossils, etc). In history most of the times is erased because convenience of them not being gay, because they don't want them to be

[@Seohaila]

@@xd._.28234 thanks for explaining it so well 🙏🏼

[@aceofspades3257]

@@dustygania2425what

[@ShatteredMirror]

'Not everything has to be gay.' I disagree, Jamie, have you not read Clause IV of the Gay Agenda?

[@nanaminaokoshi7077]

No no, my friend, Jamie is bisexual, he reads the Bi Agenda.

[@babeandandy]

Adding to the Literary gay erasure, Hans Christian Anderson wrote The Little Mermaid as a story for a male friend he was in love with. The friend was getting married (obviously to a woman) and in the original story the Mermaid kills herself after the Prince married another woman. Subtle Hans, subtle.

[@peanutbutter9018]

i adore my english teacher. she full on went, “oh yeah by the way, shakespeare was ✨queer✨ and he wrote this for a ✨man✨“ she is perfect

[@commandercorl1544]

The colors of those macarons remind me of something, but I can't quite put my finger on it.... /s

[@xd._.28234]

@@commandercorl1544 XDDD

[@k0icalico]

@@commandercorl1544 i think it’s the colours/colors of the old lesbian flag

[@bitvoidish]

CAN WE TRADE PLEASE

[@Nella_nova]

My english teacher is a tiny bit sexiest and we are reading 'taming of the shrew'

[@cube_cup]

I had no idea of Isaac Newton! I always thought he was ace. There goes my 'if we can't mobilise enough acew to invade Denmark, I can always use this extra time to invent a new system of mathematics.'

[@questrequested9171]

he could still be ace, but just homoromantic i guess

[@laartje24]

Enough aces around in history (and today) you will find someone else to make a similar joke with.

[@commandercorl1544]

Oh, we've got plenty of people to mobilize! We've got about 23 million ready, we're still trying to mobilize the other 90 million or so.

[@sonyamiller4853]

Don't let that stop you. Invent a new system of mathematics anyway!

[@John_Weiss]

Oh, he was definitely ace/aro. As someone who's gay _and_ has a doctorate in Physics, I know _all_ about Sir Isaac. He was a loner. He spent nearly all of his time working. He did indeed express _ZERO interest in sex._ He also had few friends, since he was … rather difficult to get along with. And he was vindictive. I _never once_ heard about any male … well, _anything_ relationshipwise about Newton. And being a gay grad-student, I _definitely_ would've found out about that.

[@LouTaat]

I’m a lesbian and even though my fiancée and me are very touchy and heavy on the PDA, people still routinely assume we’re ‘sisters’ or ‘bff’s’. So when we moved in together I handmade her a cringey picture card with ‘and then we were Roommates’ slapped across the front in bold, red letters. She still giggles when she comes across the card.

[@noaccount2494]

my favorite pickup line I heard was "Do you want to be roommates, in a historical way?"

[@xd._.28234]

XDD ikr, but think smart, being women makes us have a shield against homophobes because they think we're just friends 🤣🤡

[@reyisdumb.]

my aunt saying this about me and gf’s halloween costumes: “oh, you two are such cute friends! now tell me who are you dressed up as again? i keep forgetting their names. aren’t they from that show about the house with the owls?” we were dressed as luz and amity from the owl house. a canon sapphic couple. she has seen the show, she watched it with my cousin. i had told her we were dating

[@YourLocalNirvanaFan]

Hey! I'd just like to say thanks, Jamie. I'm a trans man and for a year, my parents weren't very accepting of it, but last week my dad FINALLY came around and we went on a father-son hike. Your content was one of the few things that made me feel better during the difficult times :)

[@Nella_nova]

I hope everything works out for you and people stop being little shits.

[@WindierIndoors]

"Excuse me! Bad grand-nephew! Rude!" Thank you for the delivery on that Jamie, had me cackling. Also, got to prevent a bi-erasure at work! I was joking with a coworker about how there's a good chance that there's a greater percentage of non-hetero people working at the store I'm at, and then we pondered to see if it was accurate. I brought up a bi gentleman who is married to a woman and my coworker was confused. I reminded her that just because a bi person is in a hetero relationship does not mean they are not bi. She acknowledged her mistake :)

[@moonpail]

Not gay erasure, but trans erasure. So I have a couple of trans friends, and being a young trans middle-schooler I get it. One night we were talking about this guy on my softball team and my mom and I used “she/her” pronouns (I did it because I wanted to make sure he was safe, I’m sorry). This friend is pretty openly trans through his grade despite his dad being super phobic, and my brother knew he was trans, so he decided to say “She’s not a girl, she’s a trans guy.”. I’m not sure if he was trying to start something or he just didn’t understand the danger of saying that bc he’s pretty phobic too, but my mom totally went off, saying, “She’s not a guy, she’s just confused.”. I got super mad and left the table without saying anything, and I feel super bad for my friend. Guess I’m not coming out anytime soon.

[@TheoRae8289]

I felt that like a punch in the gut because that's my stepmother and my carpool, even though this is my legal name, I've been on T for a year (with a lot of obvious features now because I haven't produced estrogen since 2016), everyone else calls me by masculine pronouns and me trying to correct her several times. Like I got put on the spot at work and the higher ups were calling me "he" and referring to me as a man, and I had to give a speech, and not a blip in her noggin.

[@LCcoolcraft]

I hope it gets better for you and your friend soon. 💙💕🤍💕💙

[@PeachJaguar7597]

Dang, that really sucks, for both you and him :/

[@m0L3ify]

"Guess I’m not coming out anytime soon." I feel you. When I was 16 I thought I was straight, but I overheard my dad at a reunion tell my uncle how relieved he was the first time I brought a boy home. I was like "what the deuce? my dad wouldn't be ok with me being gay?" My parents were always so openly supportive of others but couldn't fathom their own children being gay? It's no wonder I didn't even come out to myself until I was 36. I never formally came out to my family, I just sort of fell in love and got married. It wasn't a secret by then, tho. My mom didn't get it until the very end of her life but I had to go out of my way to tell her. I thought making the family drive 3 hours across state lines to attend my big lesbian wedding by the sea where it was legal was enough of a clue that I was gay, but nope. I married a trans woman who my mother proceeded to consistently misgender for 5 years, despite constant reminders. It was infuriating. Eventually I got fed up and was like "Mom, you know I'm gay, right?" I realized that might have been part of the problem. The whole family knew, but she was shocked. "NO!" Yes mom, I'm gay. I married a woman. Every time she misgendered my wife, it disrespected us both. I'm glad I came out to her that day because she died less than a month later. It probably would have bugged me my entire life. At least on that front I got some closure. And, thankfully, my dad has always been super loving and supportive, so my fears over his comment were unfounded. He would have been ok with it the whole time. He just saw it wayyyyyy before I did and didn't know how to handle it at the time. I'll always regret not coming out as a teenager. It might not have been as accepted at the time, but turns out most of my friends were also lesbians, we just never talked about it. Life would have been different. Maybe I could have dated some of my crushes. Who knows!

[@xd._.28234]

@@m0L3ify and thta's why acceptance is important, because if there isn't happens what happened to you :( oof.

[@emma-janeadamson4099]

I'm not sure if it's weirder to assume two same-sex people hugging as the volcano explodes MUST be friends, or two opposite-sex people MUST be a couple. When the lava's coming, surely you hug whoever's around.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

After a video on Elder Lesbians, Hollywood History and ‘Heartstopper’, I feel more aware of ‘roommates’ and ‘close companions’.

[@geckokid8265]

OMG they were roommates!

[@Gloomdrake]

James Somerton?

[@itsmxtwist]

They were roommates! Oh my god they were roommates

[@MyNamesJonas149]

@@dustygania2425 where did you get that from? from the lgbt topics? if yes then you are so wrong because being lgbt is a lot more than sex.

[@scarlettptheoriginal]

@@MyNamesJonas149 dusty is a troll. They're obsessed with Jamie and leave multiple hateful comments on every single one of his videos. They just can't stay away from him. Just don't respond to their comments.

[@scarlettptheoriginal]

I went to a specialty lingerie shop to get the undergarments for my wedding dress. My fiancée came with me. The shopkeeper asked when the wedding was and we both chimed in with the date. She said, "Oh, how sweet - best friends getting married on the same day!" We were in our 20s at the time, both shy, and already slightly uncomfortable being in such an upscale shop, so we were too intimidated to correct her. "Yeah, haha," we said. Now, in my 40s, I have the chutzpa to correct assumptions like that. But at the time it was deeply awkward. 😂

[@mery5989]

hey I was told every single one of those gay things that people are pissed about un Italian school 😊 (well except for Newton), especially all the gay greek and roman mythology, even in my reading beginner's books at six. I like that they were honest about all that

[@salemkitty5786]

They don’t hide it in PA either

[@thisistheaccountname]

3:29 This segment sort of reminds me of the author Tove Jannson. She was into men and women and tried to have representation in her writing, but people wouldn't "allow", it. And that's just the short version of it.

[@tabbitee]

"Dogs, cats, what does it matter what someone likes, as long as they are happy?" - Moominmama, at some point (regarding a dog who only likes cats)

[@fernbedek6302]

Looking at historic photos and being like ‘is it gay erasure to say these two men were ‘friends’ or is it a sign of increasing toxic masculinity that male friends can’t [x]’. A classic struggle.

[@leandrog2785]

Argue for both. You don't need to have an opinion on whether they were friends or lovers. After all, you're not a historian, and don't even have the prerequisite information and context to make such a conclusion.

[@comiccat4650]

Historical figure: "I am a gay man whi enjoys gay sex with other gay men (in a homosexual, not in the least bit platonic, way)" Historians: "As friends do!"

[@fangchick93]

Someone tried to say that Sylveon wasn't a good trans mascot, I of course pointed out that the colour scheme exactly matched the trans flag. LMFAO

[@xd._.28234]

lol i've seen sylveon being trans icon sm

[@captaincaspian42]

My dog's groomer has sylveon tattooed on his arm and a halloween espeon too! He also has blue spiked hair 😊

[@SparklerBlack]

i think the "best friends" card is for closeted pair of girls. thats the whole point. u know, you can put the card in your room so everyone can see, and no one will know

[@sbennett2435]

I vaguely remember that the beginning couple was found in Pompeii maybe? We really need to spread more historical info about LGBT community.

[@NexTakenouchi]

"Je suis fatigue" was my go to when learning French in school (Canada), and the teacher would go around asking us, "Comment ca va?" Considering I was 8 years old complaining about how tired I was all the time, they suggested I go into counselling to my parents.

[@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494]

Amazing. You had mastered the oh-so French art of existential ennui...at 8? I wouldn't have suggested counselling. I would have offered you a (candy) cigarette and said "C'est la vie. Toute la vie... c'est comme ça". And pulled a slow inhale on my Gauloise ;-)

[@samanthahello]

Love how if your in a relationship with someone of the same gender your "just friends". But then if you are friends with someone of the opposite gender you must be "more than friends".

[@ange76prkr]

Hi I'm a writer! Here's how my stories became LGBT literature by accident... When I planned out the plot in high school I had planned all the heterosexual pairings and plot things I wanted to cover and then I had my main characters playing truth or dare and holding hands the same way I interreacted with my best friends because I wanted it to be realistic. Guess what, my fans and editors turned round and started shipping all my characters and called my series "queer and witchy" so like yeah, the parts that come out as queer in the first trilogy are based on my real-life experiences....

[@flasche.]

This is just what I need after a day of pain, stomach aches and boring-ness :D A perfect refresher 😌

[@Ireallywouldrathernot]

When I was a kid our book taught us the story of Narcissus but added that the pond "distorted his image so it looked female" so it wouldn't be gay he fell in love with it.

[@TsukiNoMilkshake]

omg XDDD

[@spookshankaman1038]

Sappho cannot be stopped

[@nihilum.]

It’s so refreshing to see all these close friends and roommates getting along together

[@lauraelaineallen21]

I went to an Art High School, so we spent A LOT of time talking about Shakespeare. Plenty of Scholars argue that the sonnets written to men were not to express a sexual or romantic attraction, but were instead about him expressing admiration for his patron. And the "Dark Woman" of the sonnets was generally believes to be about a woman with dark hair. Even back in high school I was going.... "Or he could have liked a guy and a woman with dark skin..." Like seriously, I do find it hard to read the sonnets written to the fair young man, and not think of them as romantic and sexual.

[@lilcrispyconnie7461]

I never comment, but I think my gay erasure story counts for this one. My parents referred to my girlfriend as my “special friend” or my “really close friend” for the entirety of our relationship. They also allowed her and I to have sleepovers because we were both women 😅

[@Rongi_23]

"Gay erasure?" * Looks at the direction of their rainbow eraser * "Who took it this time?!?!"

[@Rotten_Ralph]

I had many problems with the movie Troy, but the biggest was when they played Achilles as straight, and he was so broken up by Hector killing his ‘cousin’ Patroclus. 😂 just his beloved cousin whom he brought with him to war and shared his tent with. Totally just a cousin.

[@qnkendra1523]

So I think inadvertently classical gay erasure gave me a strong appreciation and preference for ace relationships and the existence of aces. I used to (okay still do) get so upset that they so often "ship" close friends especially in a hetrosexual traditional representation and blame that for the friends I thought I had who were just there for some weird rando idea that one day we'd hook up. I kind of love that we're figuring out about how many people were gay back in the day

[@Kempster_K]

I feel like whoever designed the Best Friends card was totally trying to sneak that lesbian flag in haha

[@tootyfrooty3072]

5:14 That comic is based on two lines of dialogue from the first Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney game. Those sisters from the comic are from the last part (or 'case') of the first game. In the scene that inspired the comic, the older sister (Lana) talks about another female character (Mia) who died previously in the game, and reveals that they had a relationship/connection of some kind. Lana says something along the lines of "that must have been why Mia was so attracted to me" and her younger sister, Emma, quickly chimes in to say "intellectually attracted!". This has become somewhat of a meme in the Ace Attorney fandom due to the implication of Emma pulling an r/sapphoandherfriend on her sister

[@schokoloko2092]

Chris Hallbeck, the one with the archeology comic, is so wholesome and inclusive and funny and just so sweet. He has a KZbin channel where he uploads nearly daily one of these little cartoons. I really love those and I was so hyped that Jamie included one of his cartoons 😍

[@max.5w]

I just came from a very homophobic comment section and this man has restored my faith in humanity THANK YOU ♡

[@Sky-ms2us]

all of the alters of this system loves you equally

[@tauon_]

i was about to say something stupid like "why are there so many did people guys!!!" then i realised i almost exclusively chat in inclusive places lol

[@クソ狼男]

YESSSSS

[@Sky-ms2us]

WHY CAN'T I SEE THE ANSWERS AAAA

[@Seohaila]

thank you 🥰

[@commandercorl1544]

SUPPORTIVE SYSTEM WOOO

[@XaranAlamas]

I feel like the artist of that Best Friends Forever card knew exactly what they were doing, just look at their expressions too!

[@SunnySarahDee]

The Shakespeare one was mentioned to me in school. Then I did my French speaking competition piece on Shakespeare and his attraction to men was a whole section 😂

[@jessicaholscher4097]

when i was in college i became obsessed with willa cather's writing. I even wrote my senior thesis on her books. the professor we had, however, was very open minded, and he pointed out that she was most likely a lesbian and even pointed out stuff in the books that hinted at that, and so we did look at the books through that lens, and it really helps to fully understand the writer.

[@lostinnoah8087]

Hi jammi!!!!!! :DDD you inspire me to keep going with my transition even though my family all tell me i’ll regret it thank you for being here

[@gummygecko1235]

Finally I found you again! I'm subscribed to so many youtubers I couldn't find you in the long, long list. ITS BEEN WEEKS. LITERALLY. *Proceeds to bingewatch videos.*

[@jaspercat6407]

Ok but like I hate it when people out of school assume that we still aren’t taught about stuff. Cuz in my state, we learned about queer people in literature, we had queer sex-Ed,and we just learned about intersex people. I know that it’s like this in very few places, but they say “it’s not” like it’s not at all happening.

[@schokoloko2092]

Well damn, you lucky. Which state do you live in? Or maybe it depends on the school or teacher..

[@TheoRae8289]

That's a very recent development and your area may be in a minority. Because all of those literature things I heard about from social media more than a decade after I left school, with the sole exception of Dickinson, and even then my teacher tried to say she was asexual. Hell, they GOT RID OF SEX ED at my school my freshman year. This is why I'm learning to be a sex educator.

[@ameliasellers6396]

You're lucky to have that haha.

[@akitokutikabanae7010]

In a vast majority it's not. You're lucky.

[@rc31802]

Where do you live?

[@jaketaylor2775]

Thinking about how I introduced my ex to my grandparents as "my boyfriend" and months later they asked me about him and called him my "friend"

[@squeaktheswan2007]

(sweeps gay under rug) The gay left. You just missed it by five seconds.

[@tinycrimester]

i mean i'm just so happy that gay people choose to date their best friends. that seems like a very strong foundation for a lifelong relationship. it's literally what i'm striving for.

[@AlienLiyzard]

2:39 I got jumpscared by the lesbian flag while watching this video.

[@sybariticcupboardrat3763]

Ugh. My girlfriend works in child care. One day at her work a couple of little 5 year old girls declared they were going to marry each other when they grow up. My girlfriend's idiot boss just had to open up her mouth and tell them that two girls can't get married, only girls and boys can... Not only is that factually untrue as same sex marriage is legal here, but there's a married openly gay man on staff. She was the freaking one who hired him. It pissed off one of the other employees so much that she gave a blistering lecture to her own boss about not saying crap like.

[@elizabethpink]

Holy shite! I learned so many facts from this. Historians and the education system are REALLY letting the side down!

[@silversleeper1193]

Me, an AFAB ace who just wants a QPR and wishes some of that relationship erasure could come their way… 😅

[@the_apple_of_pines]

1:48 I kid you not, I screamed out loud and dropped my phone. I love Chris Hallbeck's animations so much and I was really surprised, but happy, to see him in this video -v-

[@atlas4733]

Oh my god! We started Shakespeare last week for English in HS and the teacher just straight up told us Bill Wigglestick was bi and laughed at some historian’s attempts to explain it away XD

[@AnneOnymaus]

Bill Wigglestick 🤣

[@IconicDuckling489]

I will just say Jamie, that your smile really made my day a lot better. You are a very smiley man :)

[@missnaomi613]

Thank you , Dr. Jamie! For this delightful romp, and for the upcoming refilling of the Gay Meter! I look forward to that! Whoever sees this, you are valid. Regardless of how you define yourself, how others see you, or which side of the closet door you're on. Blessed day/night to you. 🙏❤🏳‍🌈🏳‍⚧

[@clarrytheclam]

Started reading Simon Cowells book ‘My Wild Life’ and he explained that, as a kid, he lived on a road with many of his school teachers, and one of these nice lady’s lived with her ‘female companion’ with many animals, no kids, just the two of them, in the 50s/60s and he didn’t twig until writing about it recently that they probably weren’t ‘just friends’ 😂😂

[@mikellgoldsberry8651]

“Bad grand nephew.” 😂😂 loved it!

[@userbunny14]

*is pansexual trans man* *loves to cuddle with all friends* that last one... I just want to cuddle everyone. Doesn't mean I wanna get in their pants.

[@ingeborg-anne]

7:12 OH MYGOD the laughing friends holding hands are so friggin cute! I want what they have!

[@daa5865]

I once saw someone complain that two ppl of the same sex can't be friends anymore because it's all gay now and I was just.... baffled because what happened to all those years of me having male friends, being asked if we're together or if I like them and my mom still thinking my relationship with my partner was a phase after two years of us being together (she doesn't say anything now so I think she got it)

[@Lisa_Flowers]

Some straight people are so fragile that that think that people occasionally assuming their same gender friend is their partner suddenly means they simply CANNOT be friends with the same gender anymore.

[@daa5865]

Oh wow, my very own bot reply!

[@orangecrumb]

i wasnt expecting to see a chris hallbeck video in this, i love his animations!!

[@mdust8409]

As an aro-ace who experiences 0 romantic and sexual attraction, i also agree that gay and bi erasure is really annoying. My family very easily assume that as soon as im close to a male friend then something is going on, it's annoying because it makes it seem like i'll not be enough until having a loving partner but also because they dont do the same with my female friends that im actually more close to. Bruh, I have already said i dont care about gender. You're missing the point in multiple ways

[@leandrog2785]

You shouldn't care about how good you are to people with horrible f*cked up standards. Live your own life by your own values.

[@pearlheffernan7973]

Lol when Jamie said “it’s the time of learning” I had to remember that in Britain, it IS the time of learning while in Australia, it’s two days till the holidays.

[@catmcdermott4542]

whenever I see/hear stuff about LGBT erasure, I just think of the song 'History Hates Lovers' and specifically the chorus 'historians will call them close friends, besties, roommates, colleagues anything but lovers' and then when I hear the word 'roommates' in the song I instantly think of the vine 'and they were roommates'

[@legendswarble2845]

This all goes to show, heteronormativity is one hell of a drug

[@hattie6469]

The wait for more jamie content has ended the small moments of happiness these videos bring me ❤️

[@nysari_]

3:03 confused me because the album pictures shown appeared to be of just one bride with two different bridesmaids (based on the matching pink dresses and smaller bouquets of the two other women pictured). I kept wondering if I was missing something. It took me several times watching back to realize both brides are happily featured in the profile picture. 🤦‍♀

[@happybat1977]

Hey! When I was an English teacher, I never taught the sonnets without mentioning they were mainly to a young man. We're not all terrible.

[@ammalyrical5646]

Did you know The Little Mermaid (as in the original by Hans Christian Anderson) was written by him so he could his expression by not being able to be with the man he loved. That's why it's so gruesome and doesn't really have a happy ending.

[@TsukiNoMilkshake]

I didn't know that, thank you!

[@wormybobcat3706]

I occassionally go to a fast-food place with a friend of mine after college, one time I asked him while one of his friends was at the table we were sitting at and his first thought was to ask if I was asking him out on a date. My friend and I both had the same confused shock. I'm pan and my friend is probably ace.

[@DillyBlue]

I actually love the best friends forever card for two lesbian friends.

[@allison5591]

OMGG I am so sorry but the kitties FACE in the starting sponcer go. XD I giggled.

[@erinhollow773]

I love the "intellectually attracted" one. Bi Mia rights

[@lime4257]

And I'm glad I'm french, and learn about all the gay authors in french classes. Thank you a lot .

[@drtaverner]

Photo at 7:11 is adorable! I expect they ARE friends, but not JUST friends.

[@BlazeNStar]

DaVinci: "Oh my boyfriend is so handsome and kind, he is my reason to be!" Church: "Paint us the savior, the reason to live, the divine son." DaVinci: "I will paint you my reason to live looking divine for sure! He's in my... 'workshop'... right now actually."

[@yourfavoriteannie]

my favorite thing that happened in 8th grade english (at my catholic middle school) was when our teacher was talking about how shakespear was probably gay or bi and then mid conversation the priest walked in and the teacher just stopped talking until he left lmao

[@sandalaris]

I remember the surprise I felt when I learned that Abraham Lincoln had two great loves of his life, both men. And that he and his wife possibly married for convince, supportive evidence being that he literally shared his bedroom with another man while she had her own room while they were married at living in the white house. Like why didn't they teach us that in school instead of beating us over the head with the fact that he married Mary and they had a son. What about the man he had to be put on suicide watch over when the guy left him?

[@tomrayner6597]

Fun fact: in addition to Michelangelo and Leonardo (da Vinci), Donatello was also probably gay. Raphael was probably straight, but this still means 75% of the turtles were LGBTQ+. 🐢🐢🐢🏳‍🌈

[@PaleoNychus]

The one at 5:00 was in reference to chapter 5 of Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney. Personally, I think it's supposed to show that Ema is being young and naive about her sister's feelings. I think the worst erasure is when the second game was translated to anime and they turned the lesbian couple into sisters.

[@brynnsparrow8476]

Fun fact, the stage play adaptation of that case turned them into cousins!

[@16poetisa]

What's extra frustrating about the archeological discoveries is that somehow two people comforting each other when they're about to die just HAS to be romantic, EXCEPT when they're both "the same gender". Like, can we just not calling these finds "the lovers"? 'Cause we don't actually know they were "in love". It's just two humans holding each other as they die.

[@fancytreeshrew]

“is two guys cuddling gay?” And “is two girls cuddling gay?” You know, this is very far fetched, and I may be wrong, but *maybe* it depends on if they are gay or not? Shocking, I know.

[@elizabethdickinson8814]

Thank you for acknowledging platonic relationships erasure!

[@imnotreanalbertospynotatal6968]

Huh?

[@darsterz]

omg i was havig this video in the background while doing some stuff and when i heard "intellectually attracted" i knew it would be a rise from the ashes comic

[@Starlightean]

The meme about various historical erasures is bittersweet. So many people's truths who influenced our science and art *to this day* have been ignored or altered for the sake of straight bullshittery. However it's very empowering as an lgbtqia+ club member to know of the many famous queer figures and their achievements and feel that we can do great things.

[@aaronjafri9004]

Ah, the whole "Intellectually Attracted" bit from the first Ace Attorney game. Love seeing takes as to how Ema did not realize how very gay her sister was. That series is actually very queer, but only like one or two characters were actually meant to be.

[@leopoldinedeisl7313]

I, as a german find it extremly funny that you got spnsored by Babbel because everyone in gremany, austria and switzerland hates the ad's slogan "Sprachen lernen, Babbel"

[@Rockas360]

The Jesus one is a reference to Paul but there is also a theory that they disguised Mary Magdaleine as a dude for her to be in the portrait