Rain came out of no where!! panda 370z pt 4

finally got this video up! thanks for waiting. we are learning as we go on the remote mount turbo system. We hope to find ways to make this type of system efficiant as posible. just incase you guys wonder whats comong in the next few weeks, we will be finally turboing the rsx and comtinuing to share more info in the panda z as we learn. Also for any honda sfwd fans we have pandas other car we will be starting on soon as well.

[@darikrome285]

I really like the attitude of this channel. Professional tuners/fabbers, that don't have their pride so far up their asses enough that they act like boujee turbo queens.. They warn against some of the issues that may come with installing less quality generic systems, but also aren't completely against them and still install them themselves and will talk of things that you should not be cheap out on.

[@christianpatrick1984]

This channel is so underrated. Keep up the good work guys.

[@TheMick26]

Hey Jarom.👋 I thought my lunchbreak would never get here😩... finally, got a chance to watch. Like everyone else, I'm excited to see the results. I respect the fact that you showed things as they were, even when they weren't exactly as planned. Even more than that, I appreciate your and Panda's willingness to try a smaller turbo to improve on those results. So you didn't get everything dialed in on the first attempt... no biggie. That's to be expected on trendsetting, r&d projects like this. Very interesting to hear that the turbos spooled 1000 rpm sooner once the exhaust was up to higher temps. That tells me an exhaust wrap and turbo blankets are in the future. Looks like everything is headed in the right direction now.👌 I like your spirit and ambition, and no doubt you will prevail. Can't wait to see what you guys come up with. If I'm being honest, you've got me looking at 370Zs now. haha. Thanks for sharing your work and have a great day, brother.✌

[@frankp4071]

Throwing some ideas at at ya because I have a remote mounted turbo Z as well, garage style build. Tuned by Admin Tuning -Consider an electronic boost controller. Without a boost controller, the lag was awful. With a manual boost controller, it got better. I had the best results with an electronic boost controller. Spool time increased a lot. -As you said, more heat, the car spooled faster. Consider heat wrapping the exhaust to keep more heat in and additionally help spool more. Just some ideas. Love the video series!

[@takeahike2993]

Omg, ran my old 1.8T Jetta through a Puddle... Damn car shut off over 5 mph. Dunno if my turbo just sucked in all the water or what but thankfully, only rained occasionally so hard it flooded.

[@captaindatsun2659]

Frank Pilato do you have a Instagram ?

[@frankp4071]

ivan munoz @350_frank

[@MiguelAngel-cx5dq]

Dude you guys just convinced me to go with rear mount turbos. You guys are awesome for trying this and sharing the learning process.

[@jakem4795]

just a kid wanting a Z and hoping to learn something.... great video!

[@MrHerbs666]

Have fun with it man! Have a blast. There are always people who have in some way done what would like to do. Always build reliability to power and never the other way around

[@jabreepatterson7892]

Good idea

[@matthewcastleman1266]

Love the setup I remember looking at rear mounted turbos back in the early 2000s and wondered why I didn't see more of it, but I remember reading that really an intercooler wasn't needed because your already running so much pipe under the car that its cool enough

[@Tunercraze]

I saw this upload at work and couldn't WAIT to get home and watch it!!!! Literally! Again, I'm going to keep jumping in here to remind you guys that the VQ35DE G35/350Z crowd is watching this also! I am dying to get some final figures on both PRICING and Hp/Tq numbers. More so the Pricing lol Keep up the great work

[@bighomieJ5X]

Xlnt work guys . Stay positive and keep striving for success. This build is amazing

[@johnpowers4076]

Man another awesome video. The last part kind of blew my mind with air temps staying low and exhaust temps rising causing it to spool faster. Can't wait for the next one.

[@berner1920]

I was so excited to see the finished product

[@kuckian]

love your videos! please please please film more of the process! like changing the turbo's etc because some of us would love to see the process even if you've done it before! love the channel!

[@newlinedetails]

It is so awesome to watch your sub count start the climb! Great job guys!

[@letterpool]

Its so nice finding a gem of a build project that was done a while ago so that you get to binge all the episodes and see start to finish! subbed, cool channel!

[@RagingBullNuts]

Wait until you seal exhaust leak before swapping turbos. That might be a factor in spool time.

[@traviswilson3447]

When you dyno next, spend 15-20 seconds at a fairly high RPM to heat everything up before making the pull. It would be awesome to post the graph going straight into the pull "cold" and another graph when you heat the exhaust/turbo up good. Good stuff!

[@LordTheodore04]

Yes I cant live without your vids

[@That_Cody_Kid]

Love the videos man. I wish I could bring my car to you and hang out like old times.

[@GearheadsAutofab]

I’ll come visit this year some time !! I need to tune a few cars up by you !

[@yoitzmickie2330]

Sweeeet man. You make me wanna do my car. Make it seem easy. Pushing 300 now but a set up like that 👌💯🤦‍♂️

[@AdJacMusic]

I've been planning on playing with a remote mount turbo for my Ls6 Fd rx7, from talking to people that have played around with different setups they found the best for spool was using ceramic coated steam pipe for the exhaust to hold that heat in, you can wrap it but that effects how long your exhaust actually lasts (in most cases not even a year!) also a turbo blanket and electronic boost controller will help a tonne!

[@eloyflores8959]

Looks like this can get to #380 hp range with proper fueling, pretty easily... can’t wait to see the next update and the boost, rev, hp numbers... keep up the great work.

[@snakes5506]

You are the man !!!! thank you so much for this ! WOW ! affordable and easy install !

[@GearheadsAutofab]

Just wait I’m about to build a new quick spool revision of this kit.......

[@Th3UnUn1Qu3]

It’s been so long since I’ve been excited to watch KZbin videos. I love your videos man👍🏻

[@GearheadsAutofab]

Thanks dude !!! Fun to share the experience with everyone !!

[@stang_daddy5980]

a big thing I learned running rear mount this year is that you have to consider excess exhaust pressure at the wastegate.. the cooler exhaust gasses have a hard time getting through the turbo and can push a WG open sooner than it would on a normal setup, I would like to see the current turbos given a better chance with electronic boost control and a well sealed and insulated exhaust.

[@Mattmazz77]

Enjoy the content, just stumbled upon your channel by accident but definitely glad so far. Was just curious about the oil return it almost seems like overkill but I don't know.....lol.

[@thingsibuild7534]

You guys need to make this a kit someday it would be so awesome

[@aimless-drifter]

awesome build I was always wondering how well rear mounted turbos work, this is totally dope.

[@GearheadsAutofab]

I think my favorite part is it only takes like 30 min to switch turbos lol.....I know this because we changed them 5 times now during testing lol. Made 400 this week on it finally .....slowly optimizing the kit still.

[@stevengrizzle]

What do you all think about doing this with an oil-less turbo? I was looking at comp turbos

[@eddiegarcia1560]

Uploaded right when I'm going to work. Gotta watch at lunch lol

[@Tok3n87]

Just subscribed. Definitely following this build. Can't wait to find out what happens next time on dragon ball z.

[@NatoriousGamePlay]

For spool you lost a lot of exhaust energy through the loss of heat. Ceramic coated/wrapped (and properly sealed so they don't retain moisture) and use a turbo blanket. That's what I found on yellow bullet forums. A twin spool turbo with a quick spool valve would also help significantly with earlier boost

[@DivaniKingston]

Pretty Much how I approached my system. Want to redo some things. But I absolutely noticed the change in spool with temperature, too. Thought it was me, but now I see that's a thing! we're running similar displacements. I went with a single 6462 from CompTurbo originally. I'm running a single 6262 for spool at this point, but I'm curious to see what you do with smaller twins!

[@Crusher103]

So, this car made 4lbs of boost and 339whp 264wtq? Look i know all dynos are different but there are NA bolt-on cars running around making those exact numbers, some of them make even more torque. Not to judge you too much but do you have any idea what you are doing? Just to make sure i saw correctly on that 339whp dyno runs AFRs were in the 9.2:1 range? Is this car running E85? If not just by running the correct AFR you would have picked up a good amount of HP, in fact that is exactly what happened with the smaller turbos the AFR moved to 11.0:1 which is around where it should be for a boosted car. Then on top of that why are you changing turbos when the system is leaking? Fix the leaks FIRST then determine if turbos are too small. You might end up in situation where those now fast spooling turbos are too small and choke the engine in the higher RPM range. This is again why i ask do you guys have any idea on what you are doing? But, ebay turbos, so carry, if it were my car and i saw this if i paid you guys for it i would be pissed lol. But the owner bought ebay turbos so.

[@smsdragon24]

Sounds great!

[@PiterStreak]

Superchargers have their own place but man they're expensive. I'm using a custom kit that utilizes the Rotrex units. Damn things cost 2.2-2.6k. You can get a turbo that flows the same for less than half the price. Great video as always. I'm a Honda guy but there aren't many good youtubers doing honda v6 stuff, so I've resorted to Nissan v6 stuff for entertainment lol haha.

[@GearheadsAutofab]

Rotrex chargers are super impressive! I’d love to play with one on a z! Ps I’m a Honda guy lol. Just got to tune a j35 Accord sport last week.

[@sergioz18]

rad man, love it. i wonder if you reduced the exhaust early on from ie: 3" -> 2" if it would super heat the air and spool really early, or if it would be detrimental because of reduced air flow 🤷‍♂️

[@N0LIMIT.HANGMAN]

Wrap the exhaust all the way to the turbo, not sure what exhaust you guys have on it but for the LS/LQ platform the thick cast iron short length headers trapped in more heat and spool turbos up quicker and would have a negative affect if the same setup had longtubes. And for 350whp I wouldn't even run the intercooler. The charge air will be cooled down as it travels to the front of the car. My Trans Am made 430whp 6# 520whp 9.5# on 91, stock ls1 with intake only and still had stock exhaust including the cats non intercooled. Hopefully this helps you guys out switching things up, these setups work fine when the turbo sizing is correctly matched to the combo, just think about the drag cars who run an ice box in the trunk and have to feed charge side to the rear through the ice box and back to the front of the intake. Also Squires turbo systems can also help to they're a rearmount turbo specialist.

[@itsJoshW]

I'm only at 2:10 BUT I can comment on a few things you are neglecting to remember about turbos lol. The flange style, you should either move to 3 bolt flange OR go to vband. I'm sure you'll cover/figure that out. I didn't think about exhaust leaks due to this. However, this segways into the next portion: Your late exhaust spool could easily be due to exhaust leaks AND the performance parts before hitting the turbos. If you are running aftermarket headers, and larger piping than usual through, you may be hitting a lower velocity to spin the turbos. I was researching a few ideas regarding turbo threshold when turbos are mid, rear or front mount (essentially needing an up-pipe to the turbo), and from my understanding, the piping diameter and the heat retention all affect the effective velocity to get to the turbo. That goes into another good idea: I believe these are journal bearing turbos. Did you consider trying dual ball bearing turbos or lighter mass turbos? Decreasing the AR and going with a small turbo in general could increase the spool time -- but at this time frame, it's effectively your turbo threshold that is affected, correct? The time it takes the turbos to spool and then push back into the intake. In this case, you could also consider heat wrapping your intake piping (to keep heat away from it) and (if possible) see if there's shorter runs to get to the intercooler and back to the throttle body.

[@itsJoshW]

I forgot to say ceramic coating and heat wrap on the exhaust side as well to increase spool time and threshold.

[@GearheadsAutofab]

All theses things are in my dreams at night lol......it’s so fun to be able to play with this setup and see how efficient we can make it !!!!

[@itsJoshW]

@@GearheadsAutofab Yeah I feel that lol. I built my current turbo kit on my 350z, and when I do a VHR swap into my 350z, I'll be creating a mid-mount kit for it. A lot of thought comes into it, and as long as you can weld, it's not too hard to create lol.

[@mhillenaar]

Good stuff!

[@stang_daddy5980]

I was also surprised as well how much faster my rear mount spooled at the track with some heat in it vs doing a pull here and there on the street! but also a bit disappointed with the heat wrap results, it seems like not a lot of actual exhaust temp is lost through the walls of the pipe because the heat wrap didn't seem to do much at all :(

[@Resqueda01]

Exciting!!! 😁

[@bsturn]

Nisda. My two favorite auto brands in one.

[@doggystyledave]

My thoughts exactly.

[@stevengrizzle]

I run that turbo (50trim t3 ) on my 1.6 miata and its full spool by 3700, makes about 270 whp at 16psi

[@GearheadsAutofab]

Dang that’s grate power!!!

[@jamescundy]

Nice result for the budget. My thoughts on improving spool without effecting top end too much: 1) use T25 turbine housings 2) replace downpipes with pipe diameter to match the t25 inlet size 3) heat wrap the downpipes

[@jamescundy]

Loving the channel. Keep up the good work!

[@GiacomoMarenco]

two pipes dissipate more heat than one, just run e single gt35 turbo and insulate as much as possible the exhaust line, good job guys !

[@GearheadsAutofab]

Yes one pipe.....and a few other things I figured out after all the testing, doing another setup soon as the rest of my parts get here.....

[@LuisS1k_]

Plz go single.. 66/73. Heat wrap everything, turbo blanket.

[@ajcool2]

Twins or bust lol

[@LuisS1k_]

@@ajcool2 bust

[@madmod]

@@LuisS1k_ What's wrong with twins?

[@LuisS1k_]

@@madmod well for one a twin turbo setup is usually turbo per bank! This a y pipe off a already single coming from the y pipe. Not taking advantage of the turbo per bank setup..

[@madmod]

@@LuisS1k_It would make a marginal difference regardless of if it were true duals or set up as it is. The setup maintains good exhaust velocity as it is and switching to one single large enough to feed the car will do nothing but be waiting longer for boost.

[@chrys72009]

You got a parts list available soon lol might wanna try it on a g37s

[@GuyX2013]

@Gearheads Autofab Can't wait to see final numbers, did you guys have to replace the oem clutch or it already had an aftermarket one?

[@kurtbennett1164]

Doing a rear mount for my car. Single kit. Where do you put your front, rear and any wideband o2 sensors your retain for the stock system? Some say after, some say leave in stock locations. They say the backpressure from the turbo skews the readings of teh wideband? Where did you put yours?? Thanks for your help. Keep up the vids!!!!

[@GearheadsAutofab]

Good question, short answer is leave them in stock location, but the reading is off once it goes in to boost, I added a bung for my dyno wide band after the turbo. The stock ones read good until boost but after the turbo reads laggy for tuning idle and part throttle driving areas. It’s defiantly a interesting situation. But after a bit of logging you’ll see how far off stuff is and get a sense of how to get the tune correct. 😁👌🚗💨

[@ramonpena3011]

I think that, as more distance between the engine and the turbo, more chances of experience turbo lag. If you are going down that road, probably you can try to ad a electric turbo to help spool the regular turbos a little earlier. Nice channel keep dreaming and enjoying doing the projects your self.

[@agentsmith3608]

don't downside the turbos. Get a custom straight pipe! lol

[@georgehenderson4136]

Very very nice set up. I'd like any and all the input you got for a 2007 LS460 4.6 ... Definitely going this route. Thought about it for years, but have been reluctant because of all of the ECU talk with Toyota/lexus computers.

[@doggystyledave]

Hmm..... I know I spoke to you about turboing an RSX but I don't think I'm going to buy one at the moment. I am curious how much a custom turbo kit for a Q50 will cost... Either rear mount or front mount---- I just can't spend $7500 for a STILLEN kit (which I think is crazy). $5k is the max I want to spend.

[@Nismonomania]

Wow that's crazy never thought heat would make such a huge difference in spool time. How much do you think are the cats and resonators holding back spool time? Didnt think it would be so laggy

[@stonesofetown6767]

The turbos you have on their can run a v8 by them self if your running lower boost levels. I run that same turbo on my 302 making only 8 lbs as a single turbo. I’m guessing your right that you need much smaller for a v6. The rear mount won’t affect the spool time as much as people think. I mean how long does it actually take to pressurize a longer pipe? Marginally longer

[@jangzstarr]

AWESOOMMEEEEE!!!!

[@utahcountypicazospage5412]

Sts sells universal kits for anything or you can get kits for the z cars

[@maciejpeski1127]

I am just wondering if you have taken into account the air problems that can occur during fast driving for a long time? There may be a negative pressure on the turbines air inlets. Did you check it? You may have to install additional air vents or something like that ... Hoping you resolve all the technical issues. Fingers crossed

[@AlexDegnall]

V band the exhaust

[@MercDiggler]

love the videos. My Z is bone stock rn. Can you share the total cost of your turbo build when it's done?

[@jacevedo497]

Did you ever consider twin charging? I wonder how it would do with the supercharger also.

[@gerechoppers]

Where did you get those replacement turbos from?

[@k5gsxr750]

Nice👌🏻

[@luismoreno602]

Can you show how you did the whole fuel system as far as the custom fab please and thank you!

[@killakam123321]

Get some vibrant clamps for the exhaust so it doesn't leak

[@joshshinskey6309]

Hey guy I am trying to found out what is the second set of turbo band and model i would like to give this a try.

[@olderrol1968]

Are you guys going to be selling the old turbo?

[@geeteedan]

Currently have a 15 Q50 with the same 3.7L engine. After my muffler delete I have a ton of room in the back also. Wondering if it will still be possible being that I'm AWD. Curious to see how much $ you have in the system now. Looks easily possible to have a 400hp daily driver.

[@Turbogto_guy]

What was your AFR? Looks like it says 9.248? If that’s the case, real rich like that will definitely cause a very lagging spool. When mine is lower than 10.8 it’s very laggy.

[@stevenrodriguez3982]

Kfx Guy the Dyno wideband wasn't plugged in so that number can be ignored. 👍

[@B7_S4_Turbo]

Exhaust wrap, turbo blankets, and also taper the exhaust diameter as it goes down the length of the car. For a 3.5L engine you really dont need more than 1.5 or 1.75" diameter exhaust by the time it reaches the turbos.

[@jamescundy]

qballc Yeah, need to decrease that downpipe volume to improve the spool. I was thinking t25 housings be perfect.

[@larsjrgensen5975]

@@jamescundy On my old Saab 2.0 the T25 turbo gives up at around 250hp max. a good T28 was recommended for 300hp or more.

[@jamescundy]

Lars Jørgensen True. Two of them here so should be good for 500+ on this setup.

[@traxxastmaxx2.5r75]

can I please get a link to those smaller trim turbos? thanks!

[@bossboyritchno1287]

@gearheads autofab I'm about to turbo my golf R32, my only question is where did you get those turbos for a 100 dollars each???? Seriously!!!! Please reply! Thanks and keep up the good work guys you kinda inspired me to turbo the R32! I was thinking about it but you inspired me to just go ahead and do it, spacer plate is on, long studs, manifold has been fitted, intercooler is here now, got some piping just need the turbo (the turbo I wanted is 1200 pounds!!!) then I can mock up the piping and hope the intercooler isn't too small 🤔 it looks ok, I'm have to run a standalone management so I'd love to save a fortune with my turbo, please reply ✌🏼️💯

[@alloutgarage293]

If you was to sell this as a kit how much would you charge

[@fernandohood5542]

The boost response is awful for even the twins. The twins must be flowing more air at the same pressure. Looks like your using T3s and I believe these are two big for the application. Two Gt28r balling bearing turbos would be ideal.

[@Joel0297]

What beat was that? And ur Z rotors what brand?

[@brandonalean1594]

Can I get a DM of the list of parts you did for the Z? I have a single turbo build for my G37 that I am doing, right NOW.

[@andywu8558]

Can this kit work on the stock 7at transmission with low boost?

[@WelcomeToTheMadness]

I think the last time I saw the kit for one of these twin turbo kits. It was about $9000+ dollars.

[@mikefluellen9964]

Yeah APS makes one like that

[@bsturn]

eBay turbos are the way to go unless you’re going to be pushing insane numbers.

[@ps3dropzone187]

Should post link to them turbos

[@zacharnold703]

Whats the price tag looking like on this so far?

[@bmorlok84]

Haven't read any comments, but I dont believe I've noticed any lines hooked up to the waste gates... and I'm no turbo expert, but given the length of charge pipe, wouldnt a recirculating valve be better than a blow off..?

[@GearheadsAutofab]

We where just running gate pressure so there’s one line to each gate but it’s on the back hard to see.....

[@NISMOIZKING]

How much do the vq37de make stock?

[@gamesandcoffee3424]

I noticed on the dino you still dont have underglow. Your obviously missing out on all the horsepower the glow provides.

[@traxxastmaxx2.5r75]

Could I get a link to the small turbo

[@slammedeuro104]

@Gearheads Autofab I was pretty sure I remember you saying going rear mounted on high compression motors is a good way to gain or go boost. Everyone has told me that boosting my b7 a4 3.2L is a bad idea. Could a rear mount turbo be a solution to gaining some power in my audi? I've been really tempted and intrigued by this.

[@AmirPomen]

U can boost it... But just dont put alot of bost in lower rev range...it will ping/knock alot... And bigger cam should help reduce dynamic comp ratio to also reduce ping/knock thereshold...

[@zzefinho]

Put the air filters inside the trunk

[@fernandohood5542]

t3/t4.. stone age turbo? comp bb oilless turbo.big for a twin remote.gt28r

[@socaladventuresdavidt2557]

Where do you get 2 turbos for 100$?

[@manny1470]

Can you give your recommendations for turbo size for a remote mount system on a mustang 5.0 coyote? I'm looking to make 550hp at the wheels. It's my daily driver.

[@GearheadsAutofab]

Dude you’ll need to go big, that motor is big displacement and revs high ........

[@manny1470]

@@GearheadsAutofab 70 ?

[@ryanshehab6745]

Where did you find turbos for 100 dollars

[@stevenrodriguez3982]

Ryan Shehab ebay

[@itsJoshW]

Internet

[@gabrielblair9989]

" super nozzled " = tapered, reducing transition, concentric reduced, velocity funnel or funneled

[@robertsocorsojr2912]

Are the ball bearing $100 turdbos?

[@justinmammana3362]

Link to that turbo?

[@AmirPomen]

V band clamp and non other

[@dylonparsons2197]

Just change out one turbo. Big & small

[@austinbrown924]

My gt3584 69/70 .82 a/r spools at 2k hits target by 24 holds till 8k

[@TheSuperleetness]

#1

[@2is_BUGZEE]

You should have ADMINTUNING hook you up on a tune

[@ItsTheNada]

If this were made into a kit, how much do you think it would cost parts and how many hours to install?

[@GearheadsAutofab]

We will try to do a video on cost to diy this kit soon

[@TheGuruStud]

What kind of dyno is that? Those are naturally aspirated dynojet numbers.