Does Yoda Get a Pass for the Jedi's Failure?

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

Yoda, despite his flaws, is the culmination of everything that the jedi *should* have been, but at the same time a warning of leaning too far into that mind set. He's of the few who actually was as wise and capable as he acted, and the wisest thing he did, was admit he had failed.

[@benjaminbierley2074]

It's low-key in the last council meeting during the Clone Wars finale, but Mace basically shuts Yoda down in so far as Ahsoka being "allowed" to speak further because, in his view, she is a "citizen". Personally, I think Mace threw his clout around a LOT once he got on the council and further stifled them. Heck, when Yoda was getting those visions, he KNEW and didn't hesitate to go around the council's back with Anakin's help cause he knew they (Mace) were NOT going to listen or entertain his argument, so he didn't even bother trying further. When your truly wisest and most empathic council member knows they can't talk to you, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

@@benjaminbierley2074 "Disobeying the council, your expertise is"

[@irishpotatothief531]

My favorite line from yoda comes from one of my least favorite films. "Pass on what you have learned. Strength. Mastery. But weakness, folly, failure also. Yes, failure most of all. The greatest teacher, failure is." Yoda faced a fork in the road after his leadership yielded the end of the Order. Give into his failure, and be suffocated by it, or be ready and one day pass on the lessons his failure reaped. It's debatable how well he did so, but he did choose the latter path. He is a true Jedi, flaws and all.

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

@@RandomGuy-qg9xf Yoda trained countless Jedi for over 800 years, and you're talking about he had the wrong job. Show yourself outta here. The guy tried Luke to confront Vader, and things played out pretty well when Luke finally followed his advice. Luke rightfully gets a ton of credit for helping Anakin fulfill his destiny as the Chosen One, but that wouldn't be possible if Yoda didn't train him.

[@spartan7672]

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[@knoober3756]

To quote dooku “no being can wield that power for centuries without becoming complacent at best or corrupted at worst” perfectly describes Yoda in the prequels

[@user-dr7eq1lx5v]

Dooku made accurate points with Yoda as Yoda taught Dooku everything he knew and Yoda went against his own teachings.

[@ItsAVolcano]

3:05 this scene plays so differently knowing that Anakin would've qualified for Master status if not for what happened Ahsoka, which Windu had also been involved in.

[@stephen2501]

Mace Windu was such a dick

[@arthurbriand2175]

Why did Obi-wan drop his investigation into the clone army when the war started ? Was one master that crucial ? Didn't they wonder where the clone army and the ships came from? Who paid for all of this? How much influence it took to do all that under the radar ? I'm not saying not to use them, just keep the parallel investigation into the actions of a Jedi Sifo-Dyas in the unclear creation of this whole operation. You say it's an investigation to see if he embezzled Jedi Order funds to fund the army and just look into how he ordered a fleet of capital ships on his salary as a Jedi Master member of the Council.

[@robertnelson9599]

To me, that was the biggest plot hole in the prequels.

[@MegaWizard79]

The obvious answer is, the narrative demanded it. In universe? I would say it is because a war just broke out. Whether they questioned it or not, this army was needed, and so trying to denounce it was the last thing the Republic needed.

[@StrykeSZN]

I guess because they were arrogant. There’s not really any explanation except being too confident

[@twoguns5826]

They answer this in the clone wars series

[@Trey-dp6tl]

They just bought the explanation that Sifo Dyus did it and didn’t question it further until the last year of the war

[@jackwitt7430]

The Revenge of the Sith novelization has the best breakdown of Yoda's character I've ever seen and the best part is its Yoda realizing his own role in the Jedi's downfall.

[@irishpotatothief531]

My take: Yoda didn’t give himself a pass. He felt responsible. Whether he deserves all, most, some, or no blame is our debate to have. As the leader of the Jedi and as a servant of the light, he took ownership, because deflection and dismissing one’s responsibilities is a path to greed and the dark side. He may not have been perfect, but he was always trying to teach his students to grow beyond his own failures.

[@isaackim7675]

He even admitted in Rebels that he was afraid when the Jedi Order participated in the Clone Wars

[@LordEmperorHyperion]

Afraid and done nothing, like saying you've high fever but you suffer in silence, so Yoda gets no pass and full blame should be placed on him. He indirectly had a hand in creating Darth Vader.

[@spartana1116]

Think theirs a canon comic where he admitted the Jedi flaw during his initial part of his life on degaba

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@spartana1116The Jewish Flaw? 🔯 🕍 🕎

[@BugRib]

@spartana1116 - Wait...WHAT???

[@simmyjester]

One thing you (sort of) missed: Yoda was teaching the younglings, and he was nearly a thousand years old when he died in ESB. Most species have much shorter life spans. It stands to reason that Yoda would have had a hand in the upbringing of everyone on the Jedi High Council by the time of the prequels.

[@GenerationTech]

I’m pretty sure that’s actually true, I remember reading something like that

[@simmyjester]

@@GenerationTech It seems like it. I was deducing that part based on the history you gave in the video. :)

[@nicholaswion846]

@@simmyjester That was likely one of the major reasons that he spoke, not only with such an odd structure, but also with such unusual inflection, Yoda was fully aware of the authority that he carried, and how it can turn simple statements of fact, into pronouncements of judgment, shutting down the prospect of dialogue about the subject. By speaking in riddles, he turns everything he says into a question.

[@DigiPen92]

Yoda died in Return of the Jedi, not Empire Strikes Back.

[@daniels7907]

Hence many of his toxic ideological positions (e.g. "Do, or do not. There is not try") poisoned so many Jedi. Yoda liked order, so he wasn't a fan of individualist Jedi. Nor did he like Jedi who were not on the Council defying the Council. This created a very inward-focused Order. Which was exactly what Palpatine needed. Yoda made the Jedi so predictable that Palpatine could reliably plan around how they would react in specific circumstances. Just consider that, during wartime, when Coruscant was a major target, the Order seemingly had absolutely *no* plans to handle a situation where the Temple came under attack. Even when Mace Windu warned the Council: "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi. The Dark Side of the Force surrounds the Chancellor." The Council basically just shrugged and seemingly figured that they would deal with that problem if it came up.

[@motherteresa8418]

Yoda's species lives so long yet see them so little most of their friends are different species. They might see humans like dogs. Dogs were we learn against attachments . Human and dog life spans are closer in comparison to human and Yoda life spans. Maybe that's part of the lack of attachment

[@creed8712]

But Yoda is almost never portrayed as cold and detached. He’s like the most emotional of the council even beyond obi wan.

[@kingofhearts3185]

My grandfather loved and still loves all of his dogs, but he’s had dozens over the years. He misses them if you ask, but he doesn't mourn them anymore either. By the end if the week he’s back to normal if one dies. I imagine Yoda is the same.

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

No, at the end of Episode 2 he should have continued the investigation into the Clone Army and not wait until one of the clones killed a Jedi.

[@cloudmaster182]

Tbh I'd put that one on Obi Wan. It doesn't seem like he ever told the council about the "Tyrannus" that Jango Fett mentioned. From Yoda's perspective, he probably felt some gratitude towards Syfo Dyas for creating the army

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

@@cloudmaster182 that is true.

[@cloudmaster182]

@luisemoralesfalcon4716 if he did tell them tho, then yea yoda and the council fucked up not investigating sooner lol

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

@@cloudmaster182 that is true.

[@Darthdoodoo]

There are soooooo many situations where yoda was so blind to all the stuff going on. Justvthe fact he could be next to palpi and not kno hes sith is crazy talk.... That or yoda is weaker than we thought

[@deltalord6969]

I think all the prequel era jedi have the unfortunate circumstance of just existing during an era we know is basically a titanic in terms of narrative. When it comes to writing only someone like ashoka who was written afterwards and separated from the movies had the flexibility of being written to know the flaws of the jedi but since she no longer was a part of the order didnt work on changing it. No jedi during this era could be exempt from the flaw of innate comfortability and arrogance that would lead to the jedis downfall because if there was a jedi that lacked those traits they would have to be killed off or leave the order for the fall of the jedi to happen.

[@TJDious]

A pass? No. But he was hardly solely responsible.

[@seanrea550]

It was not solely yoda's fault, agreed, but as longest living jedi at the time would have had knowledge of earlier generations of jedi and could have advised accordingly. By the time of the clone wars the jedi had lost site of the "human" side of their members.

[@theechoproject899]

@@seanrea550 great way to put it, that is what I believe happened.

[@paulrasmussen8953]

​@@seanrea550he had plenty of time to correct issues but didn't

[@rubber3dduck252]

Question for anyone who might know. In episode one yoda and mace windu question who was killed, “the master or apprentice” when they confirmed the Sith have returned. Did Yoda or council ever sent out a groups of Jedi to question anyone ie send a party to Dathomir to look for clues for the master. After a full search was done for Zero the Hut. If no search was done than every member of the council including Yoda is to be blamed for the fall of the Jedi Order.

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

I think Yoda's greatest failing can be seen in 'The Empire strikes back': "All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was, hmm? What he was doing." While this is important, sure, but it doesn't sound like someone that reflects much. It's possible he was too focused on the now, because he could see and try to influence the future. Just like Palpatine, he was too sure of the vision he had of the future. But with all that, he forgot the past. He forgot to ask why some decisions have been made, why they have become the rule. Any why they may have been wrong. Among the many mistakes the Jedi made, there is a fundamental truth the Jedi have forgotten. The Sith can never trust each other fully, while the Jedi can trust each other most of the time. While Sith are often more powerful on an individual basis, the Jedi can work together much better. Yet, they never trained to do so. Rarely the Jedi sent more than one Knight or a Master with a Padawan on a mission. They don't even have a system to keep each other informed should they fall on a mission. Whoever follows often goes in as blindly as the first one.

[@JayStarwars110]

I really respect Allen’s understanding of the Star Wars universe and his ability to present it in way that’s both informative and entertaining.

[@maliciousmobius2725]

9:45 Can we all agree that those jokes will never go old?

[@jotheunissen9274]

Absolutely not He was literally shown what would happen in the Clown Wars animated show (season 6) and yet he did nothing

[@tommygordon5125]

True this is.

[@Planag7]

Lol clown wars. That actually sounds scarier to be honest

[@samueldimmock694]

Honestly, what could he have done? Removed the Order from the war halfway through? Completely restructured the Republic military because of visions even other Council members may not have believed? Abandoned his other duties in order to devote all his effort to identifying and destroying the Dark Lord of the Sith? People give Yoda a lot of flack for things he had no real control over. Of course, if he had gotten the Order more involved in politics a couple centuries earlier, they might have been able to prevent much of the corruption that allowed Palpatine to enact his Grand Plan in the first place. And if he had understood Anakin a bit better, he might have been more effective at teaching him healthy emotional regulation, which would have short-circuited his fall to the Dark Side. But it was too late for the first one by Phantom Menace, and probably too late for the second by Attack of the Clones.

[@Johnroz38]

This was outstanding and Yoda is my favorite character. But I think he is too blame for the fall of the Jedi. I just got finished with one of the high Republic books that has Yoda in it. There is a part that he is hiding some information from the Jedi council. With this said I wonder if he felt like he knew better than the Jedi council.

[@Whoopu2]

Yoda absolutely made mistakes. Unlike the other dogmatic council members he was wise enough to know he wasn't infallible. This is why he invited Qui Gon to the council. To break up the echo chamber. In the ROTS novelization during his fight with Sidious he realizes the full depth of his failures and takes responsibility for it. This is why he gets more of a pass. Ultimately he was also placed into a lose-lose situation, as designed by Sidious. Something else Yoda also realizes.

[@Broseph359]

Yoda has been part of the order for years, in a time where the Galaxy was at a peaceful/golden era with no traces of sith. The Dark Side clouded his & the other Jedi’s ability to sense it without them knowing probably because Yoda & the rest of the order haven’t faced a dark side user until Qui-Gon’s death. They preached about the Dark Side’s dangers without knowing how deadly it can be

[@therubicon]

Since seeing the future is his speciality, and he had the highest force Adaption until Anakin. It's like he should have seen it. He was more powerful than Sheev, but he hadn't mastered his anger. It may be quicker and easier, but you can't argue with results.

[@karlrovey]

He didn't put much stock in visions of the future. "Always in motion, the future is." He was also likely well aware of times where Jedi had acted to stop a future shown in a force vision only to cause the vision to come true or for a worse disaster to occur as a result.

[@therubicon]

@@karlrovey yeah that's more elucidated in serval Star Trek cause and effect temporal paradoxes. Oh well.

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Palpatine proved just how difficult it is to accurately see the future because he saw Luke joining him as his apprentice and the rebellion being squashed, but he still didn't get either one of those results. The legion he sent to Endor's forest moon got crushed by the rebellion and the Ewoks, the rebel fleet destroyed the second Death Star, and Vader ended up throwing him down the reactor shaft.

[@calvinmatthews1527]

Really bad how 10,000 Jedi had to fight during the war, but none of them able to do more investigation on the political side of it. Remember at the end of Episode II Mace & Yoda were discussing to keep a closer eye on the Senate. Did they just drop that plotline? Just saying, Yoda could've had more Jedi do some digging the background of the GAR & Count Dooku's saying to Obi-Wan. He definitely would've saved a lot more lives that way.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

The Jedi and Yoda clearly realized that there was a larger plan afoot and that they were not in control of their own fate.

[@jasonsomers8224]

I've been loving your content recently. I like when you take lessons from Star Wars that can be applied to the real world.

[@daniels7907]

Yoda was old enough that he should have seen the questionable occurrences all around him, even without the Force smacking him on the head. The Clone Army was the perfect example. Palpatine is voted emergency powers by the Senate and there just happens to be this incredibly convenient army (complete with weapons and a fleet) that has been in development for roughly the same amount of time as Palpatine has been Supreme Chancellor. Yoda just goes along with it. He's too concerned with the Jedi order's standing within the Republic to raise a stink about how suspicious this is. That the Supreme Chancellor, who is systematically hoarding political power in his own hands, aided by a special exemption to the position's term limits, also fails to disturb Yoda. That the Jedi are not supposed to be rich doesn't cause him to question how Sifo-Dyas got funding for the clones and their fleet. Even though the credits didn't come from the Jedi Order or the Senate. Yoda was too concerned with the status quo to call out any of this.

[@volterkeg]

Little is actually known about Yoda's early life and he was around 900 years old while I imagine that the young one on 6:45 probably spent most of his life at the Jedi temple so it spoke like the Jedi there. Legends Yadle spoke like that too but that was apparently changed in cannon.

[@gmmigge]

This is by far the best Star Wars channel out there, doing a good job trying to explain the galaxy for us, and not wasting energy on petty things such as "I didn't like that episode bla bla" as some other channels do. What is kind of hilarious is that you don't seem to like neither the Jedi and the Republic, nor the Sith and the Empire. And for very good reason, but it's rare to become a fan of something like Star Wars and not really like any of the main groups that drive the story ☺️ I guess you like the rebel movement though. Anyway, keep up the great work!

[@Proximus.C]

Great video!

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

KOTOR 2 still does the best exploration of both the best and worst traits of The Jedi Order. Their idealism and commitment to detachment can cause as many problems as they seek to resolve.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

12:42 not only was the council making the decisions, the Jedi order was also beholden to the Senate and were even assigned tasks by the chancellor.

[@dennislaur2515]

My take on Yoda is that by the time we first see him in TPM, he has become complacent and incompetent. The council looked to him because of his once actions and abilities. By the time Luke went to him, Yoda was obsessed with regaining the power that the Jedi once had. In my opinion, he was just the same as the dark side.

[@RealCodreX]

Acctually: SOV is more common and "natural" than SVO in lingusitic typology. But OSV is also pressent and thus "natural".

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

1:30 Well, we do know who he is. He's one of the Maiar, which are actually surprisingly common. Saruman, Radagast, the Balrog of Moria and Sauron both fall in this category as well as Melian and Eonwe for anyone who's read the Silmarillion just for famous examples.

[@HandchoiceEnterprise]

Just subscribed. Have a question regarding the Jedi order; who funds them? Qui Gon Jin has enough republic credits on hand to purchase a second hand hyper-drive, does that qualify as "petty cash"? If they are funded in part by republic taxes then they are not independent body, and could be considered a government one... Do the Jedi own land like medieval monks did and earn income from tenant farmers? Are they entirely funded through Grants and gifts from sponsors? If so; this could generate a highly lucrative (tax free) if unstable income. At worst it could make the Jedi less critical of generous (and potentially dubious) benefactors. Would be an interesting thing to examine. Keep up the good work.

[@thakroganer518]

Have a nice time in Austria!

[@Zehamas]

Im really liking this new video format i have to say, Its kind of making it feel like we are sitting together, having a discussion/debate on star wars :)

[@orokusaki1243]

The Sith plot was specifically designed to trap and eradicate the Jedi by using the Jedi's own code and allegiance to the Republic against them. They got roach motel'd, they checked in but were never able to check out. Only the Chosen One could have stopped it, but instead he was corrupted into becoming a tool for the Sith. Palpatine "lost" to Windu only to make Skywalker's corruption complete by forcing the choice. The Jedi did grow soft, and it was under Yoda, but the centuries of service are definitely what help his case. The Jedi largely dealt with "justice" issues for the Republic, because they were seen as a force of "good" who could negotiate for what was "right". They had The Force as an ally with which they could glean insights into any investigations they were sent on..unless it was clouded by the dark side.

[@samueldimmock694]

That may be the biggest reason to judge Yoda less harshly than we could: he was so used to relying on the Force for insight that when he lost that ability, much of his immense wisdom no longer applied to the world he found himself in. During the Prequels, he was flying blind in a way he had not done for centuries. And we cannot blame him for this, as relying on the Force while he could was undoubtedly the right choice. The mistakes he made were still mistakes, but it is hard to say that he should have seen them coming when he would have if he'd possessed the abilities he had possessed for most of his life--though he really should have foreseen the loss of those abilities, maybe even early enough to stop them. In other words, his real mistakes were made decades before any of the decisions we actually saw him making, and they put him in an unwinnable position.

[@imnotkiddingg]

6:55 Yoda speaks in a particular way to honor his old master who spoke the way he does now, not as some managerial manipulation tactic lmaoo

[@ebermtheburn]

His Cartman style "Democracay" got a chuckle out of me

[@jonathananderson2406]

I was a little surprised that it wasn't focused on how Yoda being in the order as a leader for that many centuries kind of feels and could be argued that their dogmatic view and arrogance may not have come from Yoda but he certainly had influence and guidance over generations after generation of padawans. An individual can create a lot of influence on others and their lives. Now an individual with many lifetimes in comparison to human lifespans, with continued experience in training, guiding (manipulating), and helping suggest or directly putting leaders in positions over and over, AND YET it's not somewhat Yoda's fault for the current Jedi's culture and state of being? mhmm?

[@Planag7]

See a lot of people let Yoda off the hook because of his age and stuff where is I hold him more responsible because he had that kind of experience. Conveniences/comfort is a relative of the devil. Or something like that

[@jediprotector216]

From KOTOR, Jolee Bindo is the best individual from the Old Republic days.

[@arthurbriand2175]

Was Yoda right to leave Coruscant ? The wookies were good allies and attacked by droids (insert the meme here) but did they need the Grandmaster of the Order ? Seriously, he knew that the war was coming to an end, that some serious shake ups were coming in the Separatist leadership. The situation in Coruscant was changing by the day, the Council suspected the Chancellor and was planning to take action in case shit was going down... That doesn't seem like the right moment to send your leader to a marginal front on a far away not startegic planet. He isn't even needed on the battlefield, there are no siths on Kashyyk! Why did he leave ?! He knew that his powers of prediction and anticipation are weaker and that events are about to unfold fast. Why would he think that he can be of any help far away from the action ?

[@Trey-dp6tl]

The Revenge of the Sith novelization explained that was bait to get Sidious to do something with Yoda off world, but Mace on hand as the next best thing to Yoda. Anakin was also still on Coruscant and the Jedi thought he could still be relied on to kill a Sith Lord until Mace knew it was Palpatine and no longer trusted Anakin could do what was necessary in a confrontation. That said I think if Mace had trusted Anakin in his confrontation with Palapatine, Anakin would have returned that trust with loyalty and together they could have taken Palpatune alive

[@arthurbriand2175]

@@Trey-dp6tl That is very narrow-minded of Yoda to not even anticipate that the Sith taht has been assailling them with political asymetrical emans for years would move in open light against the Order. The Sith Lord could perfectly have used his influence in the Senate to trigger a vote against the Jedis or blame them for a false-flag attack and the wisdom of Yoda wouldn't have been in the room, just the rashness of Windu and Anakin who are two of the most physically violent Jedis who lightsaber first and ask questions later.

[@mordj5247]

Did you mean you're going to create 2 other channels covering Harry Potter and LoTR ? Did I understand that ? I think I understood that. So cool

[@lerneanlion]

If the Jedi did not want to fight the Mandalorians, then why the Jedi helped the Republic committed ethnocide against the Mandalorians in what known as the Mandalorian Excision? Feared that the Mandalorians will started taxing the use of the Hydian Way, which they already did?

[@jacksonyon5276]

I feel like the Jedi were always going to fall at some time. palpatine had a master plan to take them down and the Jedi including yoda could’ve never seen it coming

[@thecountryboythreat5273]

You are a truly inspirational person Allen, your monologues are great

[@dennisd4452]

that Yoda photo on your laptop creeps me out.

[@scaldon2]

Yoda did the best he could . With the fall of jedi order he took action. And he confronted palpatine. If it wasn't for polt armor palps would of been finished

[@arthurbriand2175]

He admonished masters of being blinded by their egos and power but he let Mace Windu run the Order doing exactly that and failed to recognise the guy he had weekly meetings with was a Sith Lord.

[@metroidhunter965]

Yoda had millennia of experience. All of that time is during the Rule of Two where the Jedi believed that the Sith were extinct Him being Grandmaster, he does have override authority. He could have said “no, a master he shall be.” He is just as arrogant as Windu.

[@10Tabris01]

​@@metroidhunter965Rules exist for a reason. You can't just toss them because someone throws a hissy fit

[@metroidhunter965]

@@10Tabris01 yet exceptions to the rule exist. Anakin was highly regarded by the whole of the Galaxy as a war hero. Yes, a lot of that was a propaganda campaign by Palps. His training of Ahsoka was proof as well. You could argue that the bombing plot was a demerit, but it was proven to be a framing on her. If you have an employee who does his job well and wants a management position. You can either deny the management promotion like how the Council did, or you can give it to him and retain a valuable employee.

[@10Tabris01]

@@metroidhunter965 The title of Master is a bit more than "just" a promotion though, and Anakin did not have the maturity required to take up its responsibilities.

[@aceofaces0007]

I think it's worth stating that at not point (at least I'm aware of) did Yoda feel like he mishandled Anakin, even though Yoda gave Anakin some pretty poor counsel on how to handle grief and loss, which is what drove Anakin to the Dark Side. Instead of acknowledging Anakin's feelings as valid and naturally difficult, he too espoused the typical dogma of the Jedi that Jedi aren't supposed to have these feelings, that attachment to others is "the Shadow of Greed," thereby invalidating Anakin's feelings and further isolating him from the rest of the Jedi for being "different." Also, as admirable as it is that Yoda does not wield his authority as Grand Master to outweigh the rest of the Council, such passiveness is also what led to him not challenging the rest of the Council when it came to Ahsoka being accused of treason and terrorism. If Yoda had any suspicions that Ahsoka was innocent (maybe he did, maybe he didn't, it's hard to say considering his passiveness on the subject), his opinion would have mattered a lot to the rest of the Council, or at the very least, encourage caution and conduct a thorough investigation before deciding whether to expel Ahsoka from the order to face trial in a military tribunal. Instead, Yoda remained passive and directly contributed to Ahsoka leaving the Order. In truth, I think Council members like Mace Windu took advantage of Yoda's passive nature to effectively call the shots. Mace is far more active in leading the discussions within the Council, which is why Mace was front and center in the miscarriage of justice done towards Ahsoka, and why Mace and Anakin repeatedly butted heads. And we also saw in Tales of the Jedi that Count Dooku accused Mace of politicking to get promoted to the Council ahead of him, with it being implied that Mace highlighted Dooku's rule-breaking to the Council to discredit him. I guess the point I'm making in talking about Jedi other than Yoda is to say that Yoda's passive leadership style ultimately enabled the more toxic elements of the Jedi Order to take root, especially within the Council, in the forms of Mace Windu, Ki-Adi Mundi and Luminara Undulli

[@samueldimmock694]

I also am not aware of Yoda ever feeling like he had mishandled Anakin, but there were several times when he admitted doubt and uncertainty. He didn't understand Anakin's place in the Order or the galaxy, nor did he understand him as a person; he knew that he had to trust the Force to work things out, but had limited ability to see what the Force was doing. And I don't think that Yoda actually meant to tell Anakin that his feelings were invalid and should not exist--I actually think he was trying to give good advice on how to deal with loss (accept that it will happen and that it isn't the end of the world before it occurs, give up the illusion of control, and remember that life continues after death, just not in the same form), and just had no idea how to talk to Anakin, so he said one thing and Anakin heard another. Which doesn't let Yoda off the hook--he should have tried harder to speak to Anakin in a way that he could understand, and also to better understand what Anakin specifically needed (that thing of giving up control is something that Anakin really struggled with, and Yoda should have had a conversation with him about how and why instead of just telling him to do it)--but I think it's important to realize that Yoda was doing the best he could under the circumstances, even if he made some serious mistakes in the process. About your critique of Yoda's passivity, there is a saying about how the wisdom of the wise prevents them from taking action, for they cannot see all ends and know too well the limits of their knowledge and judgment. I completely agree with you on this; more than that, I think I know why Yoda did what he did. He knew that if he disagreed with the Council, at least one of them was wrong, and that it might very well be him. Unable to reliably call on the Force for guidance, he did not trust himself to know when he should trust his own judgment more than that of his fellow Councilors; and since his wisdom was sorely insufficient, he likely felt he had little choice but to hope the the Council was wiser than he. So he chose to err on the side of caution, and err he did.

[@Patrick-it8nk]

Alright had to drop this in here before I forget: Idk if its an inside joke, but the "Master Potato" bit got me 🤣

[@TheDrexxus]

This guy looks and sounds so similar to YongYea that I initially thought this guy was like YongYea-After-Lasik or something haha. Or superman vs clark kent where no one seems to notice how similar they look and sound. It's kind of distracting when watching.

[@ghostface4404]

''attached'', huh? that's that's quite interesting terminology. I seem to recall these... ''words of wisdom'': “The fear of loss is a path to the dark side. Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. Attachment leads to jealousy. The shadow of greed that is. Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose.”.

[@TheMitchyb61]

It’s all more complex then we like to think!

[@alejandromolina7270]

Everytime when the Council suggests assassinating Count Dooku, or betraying Anakin trust by faking Obi Wan's death Yoda was always against.

[@Darthbaldmouse]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

[@RayHardman7567]

The Jedi order ultimately fell because of Yoda. And Mace. For how much Yoda always preached about learning and the future is always in motion, if you let someone rule over something for half there life, it will eventually become stagnant and stop growing. Yoda taught all the Jedi for hundreds of years to follow old traditions, and if anyone tried doing anything different, (dooku and his friend, Anakin, Jinn, and quite a few others,) then they were looked down upon and were considered outcasts. This is ultimately how sidious defeated them before they even new what was transpiring. But the real failure, probably the first, was the council deciding to be governed by the Senate after the russan reformation. It was all downhill from there. If the council listened to the mavericks and outcasts, they probably had a decent chance to see the sith coming into power long before the battle of naboo.

[@OUTSIDER40]

May the force be with you

[@BlackXanthas]

Yes and no. I think it is vastly underplayed and discussed just how much effort palpatine put into dampening the light side of the force, everytime a character says things are clouded i think in a small way is a nod towards this, especially when it comes to placing where palpatine is (in the room, on the planet etc) when the phrase is uttered. But i think where yoda does rightly deserve some guilt is, the blind faith, pun intended, he put into the force, despite being well, blinded or muffled slightly and subtly to where he couldnt tell the crutch he fell back onto was being manipulated, and led him to double down on moving away from the force to be more strict and rigid, even after knowing quaigon and seeing dooku, whom he point blank refused to guide. But if yoda has blame, then so does alot of others on that council too, for forgeting when to flow like water, and not shatter like iron

[@chocomalk]

Why are your stairs a chairtable?

[@Sleepy_Apocalypse]

Heeell naah! 🎶 To the NAW NAWW NAAWW! 🎶 HEEELLL TO THE NO! 🗣️🗣️🙅🏾‍♂️

[@karlrovey]

At least in legends, Yoda had handed over the Grand Master role to Mace Windu, who at the beginning of the Clone Wars, returned the role to Yoda due to his centuries of experience.

[@theechoproject899]

He does not. Yoda is not fully responsible, but he became too passive in general. He didn't dig deeper when he should have, which his main flaw is that he was cautious to such a degree that he became inactive, until it was way too late. Again, he did a lot of good and tried to not override the rest of the council too much as he has so much control, but there were times he needed to step in like with Ahsoka, Anakin, and the chips. That was his failure. The Jedi's failure on an individual level is their own, save Yoda not teaching them to keep their humanity, which is his other failure.

[@CaptainFirefred]

Balance to the force the chosen one brings, mmh. Rule for 1000 years the Jedi have, not know how balance works I do, mmh.

[@levierickson7321]

So, Yoda was a Master Gunnery Sgt. Tracks Ooo-RAH!

[@AnnPMadera]

Gandalf is explained though. As one of the Maiar, he's a low ranking angel. Seriously, that's his deal.

[@TigglyWiggly719]

I take great umbrage with your claim that Yoda purposefully speaks in an "unnatural" speech pattern to mess with people. Yes, subject-verb-object (SVO) is the most common order in the Indo-European language group, and hence other pattern seems very unnatural to us who mostly or only know SVO, but is not the the only "natural" word order. You've mentioned several times that we don't know where Yoda comes from, or even what his species is. How then is it incomprehensible that he would use different syntax? And those are just orders based on what we consider important. The Tamarians in Star Trek speak only in metaphor. Shaka when the walls fell, dude. All that said, I do enjoy your channel and appreciate your depth of info on my favorite universe,

[@dirtyjerde13]

so how tf did yoda become a jedi master at 97 but grogu is an infant at 50

[@Alduinhead]

I think Mace Windu played a much larger role in the downfall of the order. "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi. The dark side of the force surrounds the chancellor." That should have been his clue. For someone who had the shatterpoint ability, he had surprisingly little foresight. That, and his inflections and demeanor portrayed anything but compassion or detachment.

[@gyrfalcon7332]

By the time of the clone wars, Yoda was more or less the equivalent of a 90 year old human. While Yoda was extraordinary in many ways, time catches us all. Perhaps he was simply becoming less cognitively adept, or slower. I think he probably worried greatly about the the leaders coming up behind him. So instead of just teaching younglings and providing council when asked, he stayed in a position of leadership. No being should be in a position of leadership in the twilight of their lives. Whether or not Yoda contributed to his own predicament, he should have been able to do semi-retired things and not grapple with the stress, vagaries, and subterfuge of leadership.

[@UPTAUT]

Dude, you got me when you said democrasiiiiigh! Full on spit take. Hot Tea all over my bed spread

[@frogonket]

Did 30 pounds of pure ket immediately before the droid attack on the Wookiees do anything I could not nearly flat lined I did

[@NovaxPrime]

As far as I know, Yoda speaks the way he does in honor of his master who spoke that way.

[@jamesbodnarchuk3322]

This world tragic it is.

[@AncalagonTheDread]

Having their main temple on Coruscant should have been a warning for the things to come. Remaining detached from politics is easier from a outer-rim planet like Lothal, or Spalex.

[@Hippolestrian]

Yoda forsaw the fall of the republic and probable death of many Jedi when he was pursuing immortality on the end of season 6. He saw that the sith were in control, and that there was really nothing he could do to prevent the failure of the Jedi. When he cones back to the Jedi in the final episode, he says nothing of what he saw, and chooses instead to keep moving in the same direction. My thought was always that he knew that they were going to lose, maybe he just didn't know how bad. However his faith in the force is what led him to hope that a Jedi powerful enough to destroy the sith woild arise, which is why he went into exile only after one battle with Palpatine, and waited until Luke showed up. I think that is why Yoda was so adamant that Luke finish his training before battling Vader, is because he knew that Luke had been prepared by the force to counter the Sith, and he didnt want that chance at balance to be blown by Luke's hotheadedness.

[@phoenixr6811]

Yoda always gets a pass 😂😂😂

[@zstreet3]

Great video. I’ve always felt that ultimately Yoda was a failure as the grand master of the Order. He deserves criticism in my opinion.

[@rinokumera5907]

5.06 sounds like amonarch

[@JKH133]

Checks and balances

[@theblackgoatofthewoods]

The road to hell is paved with good intensions

[@ClericOfPholtus]

Initial personal take Pre Vid? Yoda was both a quitter and a failure. He fell down from his fight by pure luck of positioning, was clearly uninjured and just left anyway instead of getting back up there and finishing the fight.

[@jonathanmagallon3969]

Yoda was not like the other Jedi he was what a true Jedi should’ve been but he did make many mistakes that led to his downfall

[@DMSProduktions]

Grand Master Flash?

[@guts60]

Yoda’s CGI vs JarJar’s CGI

[@OverworkedITGuy]

Yoda gets zero pass. He's been around long enough to have literally seen everything to do with the rise and fall of the Republic. He had a sense that something dark was coming, but spent every moment pretty much ignoring those warnings. And when it all went down, instead of fleeing to attempt to organize any survivors of Order 66, he just put himself in some sort of "noble" exile as "penance". At least Obi did what he could to watch over the Skywalker kids.

[@yunuss58]

Hahaha nice dig at the Kremlin Gremlin

[@KydNotorious]

Hey Alan, what is that beverage you have next to the laptop? I can't quite read the label. Is it Dolphin blood? No judgment here, if you're into drinking the blood of your enemies.

[@marcelgrabowski5939]

Ah, it is just in english that subject is first, in Polish it is opposite. Funny thing is that, to make his way of talking jerring in Polish, they use english construction with Polish words.

[@GenerationTech]

That’s very interesting Dziękuję!

[@marcelgrabowski5939]

@@GenerationTech I wzajemnie!

[@B.matrix]

Do Mace next! Or Kit Fisto, isn’t he just the dolphin of Jedi?

[@JustinKase1969]

At the start were you screen testing for a role as C-3PO?

[@cronoash4790]

No, I don’t think he should. After all, he, like pretty much everyone else, just stopped investigating the origins of the Clone Army until it was too late (arguably it already was, but that’s not on him).

[@joshuahogan3475]

Now do Plo Kloon.

[@philippschwarz4539]

No, he doesn't. He's the boss, the top dog. He was considered the wisest Jedi, when he spoke they listened, so he could have changed things. The biggest problem was that Yoda was the wisest JEDI not the wisest PERSON. He and the other Jedi missed the signs that Palpitatine was Sidious because they relied on The Force too much. Anyone familiar with KOTOR 2 will note that the conversion between Kreia and Atton describes their reliance on The Force perfectly.

[@althistoryjake1583]

Nice vid!

[@alannolan5126]

can u talk about the Crusade against the Hutt

[@RedKingdom09]

U should make a vid abt did palpatine have a plan for dooku turning against him

[@theodoremccarthy4438]

Yoda wasn’t the problem. The problem was fundamental flaws in Jedi philosophy and practices. They studied, revered and served an energy field that connected all living things, yet they practiced detachment for others to avoid the risk of falling to the dark side. This pitted them in opposition to the essence of the force: interconnectedness. They claimed to serve the force, but in reality their philosophy emphasized the pursuit of personal serenity. They believed this brought the closer to the force, but in practice it seems to have blinded them.

[@poop3120]

can you please grill shaak ti for her actions during the fives arc she was literally picking every wrong option every time she got the chance

[@GenerationTech]

I mean she did die like multiple times from getting stabbed in the back must say something about her awareness

[@tristankawatsuma8962]

Really? I mean, she brought Fives with her to Coruscant. She could have just left him on Kamino where his brain would be wiped. Also, how is she supposed to know not to trust Palpatine. Yes, she clearly would prefer to send the inhibitor chip and Fives to the Jedi Temple as she was initially instructed instead of sending them to the chancellor, but it’s not like he has really done anything untrustworthy yet. There was the Zillo Beast Incident, but that looked a lot like arrogance and a lack of understanding of nature plenty of people have instead of the secret manipulations of a Sith. This is Palpatine we’re talking about here. He mostly avoids doing things that would even suggest he isn’t the type of person he pretends to be. The longer nobody thinks he’s a threat, the more dangerous he is. And I can’t really blame the Jedi for not believing Fives right away. Besides being injected with a drug that made him act crazy, thus making everyone think that is what happens when the inhibitor chip is removed, he also accuses the chancellor of all people of being the leader of this conspiracy that began the same year he got his position. There wasn’t any evidence at the time suggesting Palpatine had any connections to Kamino before the war. Jedi aren’t gods, they are more like superheroes. And superheroes can be manipulated. Now I’ll grant that they should have done an independent investigation of Fives after his death. There really isn’t any reason I could see Palpatine come up with to stop this. And admittedly they probably should have been in a panic after it was revealed Dooku killed Sifo-Dyas and completed his order to the Kaminoans for the Clone Troopers. I do understand why they stayed quiet as they didn’t want to cause chaos in the Republic. According to some famous artist, the citizens of the Republic were really suffering from war fatigue at the time and the Outer Rim Sieges saved Palpatine by moving the war far from Republic space. Still, I feel Anakin should have told Obi-Wan and Shaak Ti about what Fives said about the chancellor, which would prompt the Jedi to investigate on any relations the two political leaders had. Yes, Anakin has immense faith in Palpatine and likely clung on to him harder after losing Ahsoka, but the fact that the leader of the enemy of the Republic ordered the creation of the army the Jedi lead is just way too concerning.

[@yagdtigercommander]

Yoda for the most really made the best of bad situation to begin with. Plus as much as Mace Windu was arrogant and that Yoda could have kicked off the council potentially. I could understand why he let it slide I mean the guys like 800 years old probably felt I am told for this shit.

[@Troglodytarum]

How did you f*** up "Hard to see, the dark side is."

[@jimmybacon3870]

3:00 dafuq you just say to me