This is the best "The Acolyte" has to offer?

[@scottn2046]

"What kind of Master hides his face" - seems like a sharper dig against Sol that we can decipher at this point.

[@herrnase4340]

Lets see if its really that meaningful, its certainly one of the main plot points.

[@ibidiby1]

Think he's just saying he's not showing his true face as "you did something very evil/un-Jedi like to the witches and he's a pretend Jedi". Basically saying he's living a lie

[@ssotkow]

Darth Quip cut deeper with the line "you brought her here"... in response to a remorse Sol saying Jecki was "just a child"

[@yifeikang453]

Well, Darth Vader never got his master title from anyone

[@prestonroberts2941]

@@ssotkow right? I loved that. You brought a kid to a war, and are surprised that she died? Maybe don't utilize child soldiers?

[@kevingallagher4745]

This is the first Star Wars property in a long time where I didn't know how it would turn out. Lies, cover-ups, main characters dying left and right, unreliable narrators, psychopaths. I'm really enjoying it warts and all.

[@cloudmaster182]

Agreed. I've been a fan since the legends days and I really think this is the best show we've gotten so far except for Andor.

[@TreiberSeptim]

Yup. After Andor, we finally have another show that is willing to break norms, particularly disney norms, and has the quality to back up its ambitions. It‘s obviously very different from Andor, but it does its own thing, and that’s super cool. It reminds me more of the old EU novels and comics, and I‘m here for that. That is some of the best star wars content out there.

[@ericp1139]

Uh, it can only end with everyone involved dying or getting hit in the head with Tattooine amnesia rocks. Anything else, and the lore is broken.

[@anthonyjames5427]

all i have to say is "Yes."

[@cooljams5698]

Your obviously a youngling.

[@mattshelton7423]

I’m ngl, I was 1,000% not ready to see Cortosis being used, so when he did, I was SHOCKED. My inner kid was like “holy f** s**… did he just HEADBUTT A LIGHTSABER?!?! AHHHHHH!!! LETS GOOOO” 😂😂😂

[@kushgodreturns5873]

Sol: She was a child! Qimir: You brought her here. My favorite part of that episode

[@GenerationTech]

Yeah that was great 👍🏼

[@sgtslaughter54]

Overall I haven't liked the series much, but they did the darksiders well in this episode.

[@xtrafunk]

he cold. that hit hard

[@Delta6ICU]

He is sneaky, heartless, and snarky... Have to give credit where credit is due. That's solidly sithy behaviour.

[@chromacypher8409]

Sol: You Killed Jeki! Qimir: OH, was that ITS name? Brutal...

[@JayRayOfficial]

Combat choreography was absolutely stunning. At least for me.

[@TheSmartCinema]

nothing compared to Nick Gillard's work... tbh I find Disney's lightsabers fights to be uninteresting... often looks like teens playing with toy sabers

[@Magswap]

​@@TheSmartCinema it was significantly better than the sequel fights and even Mace vs Sidious. While overall I hate this show, I'll give them credit for this one. Minus the several openings that the Jedi left I felt they did a lot better with the choreography. Imo that's a fair take on this.

[@JAy-dx1xb]

I did not except them to kill the lil girl like that I'm happy star wars is done with the kid friendly not wanting to show death because death is apart of life and kids gotta learn that I'm fucking with this show but we know how other fans get

[@904_noah]

@@MagswapDefinitely better than sequels but not as good as prequels. But not bad as far as disney goes...

[@xtrafunk]

some of it was incredible and best-to-date, and some of it felt a little sloppy. with the force + cortosis helmets and gauntlets it should be possible to choreograph a scene that doesn't clearly have stuntman 3 tapdancing in place while waiting for stuntman 2 to get parried & skewered.

[@andybiz4273]

"Critics need to be patient" should be the absolute motto for the Star Wars fandom. It annoyed me seeing people complain about things that could be answered in the next episode or, you know, THE REST OF THE SERIES. And I hate to say it, but sometimes the big YT channels are just as much to blame! If you're going to hate this series, hate it once it's over.

[@ibroadcast7219]

You hate to say it? It has been like that ever since The Last Jedi came out

[@rexlumontad5644]

Smilo Ren just asked the Jedi how's their health plan. Apparently it was great.

[@GenerationTech]

😭

[@Jungoguy]

TeamFourStar

[@rvds2040]

alucard would be a sith, darth trollious and his apprentice, darth police girl

[@goni2493]

More like the life insurance policy.

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

"Get on your knees!" "I'm not your MOTHER LAST NIGHT!" And they took exception to that.

[@liamobrien-ib1rd]

I really loved seeing Qimir after he had his mask off both literally and metaphorically, Manny does a really good job with body language, facial expressions and line delivery to pull a complete 180 from the goofy slightly comical guy we've seen thus far into the cold, intimidating and ruthless dark side wielder we got to see this episode. Im almost sad hes destined to fail because i really like the character and performance bringing it to life

[@christopherkowalczyk4405]

That one line he said to Osha in his cover identity than going to his real voice in almost the same breath was great. Made me think of Norton in primal fear.

[@jefferi78]

this is how bad guys work in fiction and real life. they make you think they're not a threat and then finish you off without you knowing.

[@chase1146]

“This is why you can’t judge the show based off idiot exchanges between the creators abd actors in the fandom” FUCKING FINALLY SOMEONE SEES SENSE. Thank you Allen!

[@user-lc5of7jh5g]

Jecki got turned into an electrical outlet

[@dolantrimp1691]

"Traffic cops getting ambushed by Rambo." Exactly!

[@genuineappeal3458]

light sabre haircut

[@alexthekid3377]

And only 2 survived 😨

[@bfc2338]

It’s nice to see at least someone not just hating on the show. I love that Allen actually looks at the positives and negatives and goes a little more in depth about the little details that we might have missed instead of just feeding us his opinions. It really is a shame that so many other star wars channels have resorted to “oh yeah it was good” or “this dosnt feel like star wars and it’s ruining Lucas’ vision”. It’s really nice to know that there’s a channel out there that respects everyone’s opinion and tries to be optimistic about future. Keep up the good work!

[@windstormstrike]

Toxic fans are just looking for that “first-time-at-the-movie-AMAZING-AMAZING-PEW-PEW” feeling they got when they were a kid…that part of them never grew up and are comfortable throwing a (childish) tantrum when something isn’t going they’re way

[@Aaron-rp8uz]

Jecki holding her own against a sith was awesome. Her part of the lightsaber battle was intense. Plus, the hand to hand combat between Sol and Qimir. Best episode of the series yet!

[@IsaacKuo]

I think that no matter what happens in the next three episodes, this is solidly in Prequel Trilogy territory in terms of how fans will fondly remember it. What legitimate criticisms there are, are about things that most fans simply won't remember or care about much. But the good stuff is so outstanding ... that stuff will stick.

[@ChrisHaar]

Another thought: I think Qmir gives himself away as the apprentice when he says he “Has no name” and that he wants freedom to wield his power the way he wants to…

[@striverFor]

How so? Please elaborate.

[@Justin-AL]

Yeah I think he’s just related to the night sisters I don’t think he’s an actual sith

[@ChrisHaar]

@@striverFor remember the old line about the rule of two Sith that there’s a master to wield the power and an apprentice to crave it (can’t remember the actual word for word line and can’t look it up til later). I’m probably reaching. But that’s immediately what I thought of when he said that line about freedom. Dunno. Just a thought.

[@DaNewWaveLee]

@@striverFormasters name their apprentices

[@afunkymonke]

​@ChrisHaar could also mean the fact that just like we see in the past, the Jedi aren't too fond of other groups of force users existing. He can't wield his power the way he wants because the jedi exists. But I do like that there can be multiple meanings here, though honestly a new twist on top of whatever actually happened that night at Osha and Mae's village might be too much for 3 episodes left. But we shall see

[@zachschmitt3654]

I was genuinely SHOCKED they killed Yord and Jecky, and I am sad Jecky got killed

[@thegreatsnowblizzard3196]

I did like how yord was killed without a weapon which was Mae's mission.

[@pckrichards7980]

One of the biggest WTAF Star Wars moments in my lifetime.

[@josephle2381]

Rest in piss Yord and jecky I hate those two🚬💨

[@pavloszimbrakos4410]

I’m sad they both died but yeah especially her and the worst part emotionally speaking is that their deaths could’ve been avoided

[@rexlumontad5644]

On the silver lining, the lightsaber can actually kill for real. No more glorified glowing baseball bats this time.

[@LeafBoye]

True true definitely a plus

[@MarcMagma]

Just like in real life, it all depends on where the lightsaber goes through. If it hits something vital, you're done immediately. If it doesn't, like with Qui-Gon after he was stabbed by Maul, death takes a few more minutes resulting in a small window for someone to be safed if there is a healer or the right medical equipment nearby or coming to you just in time before you expire (like was the case with Sabine in "Ahoska").

[@enzoamore8971]

​@@MarcMagma literally bro. Qui-Gon had a front row seat, watching Obi-Wan and Maul duel eachother. Dude was alive the entire fight, but he had no help.

[@mkhud50n]

Sol hitting Qimir’s lightsaber after he threw it was the most baseball thing I’ve seen in Star Wars.

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

They cauterize wounds, I'm more confused why everyone gets upset when they don't always killed its not like they hit vital organs 90% of the time. You do realize not *every* organ in the body is vital and as long as you don'e have a gaping hole in the wounds to either your gut, stomach or spine, you *should* survive. And thats how cauturization work, every time someone who *wasn't* a sith survived a lightsaber stab, its been because the wound was never *going* to be fatal. They are stabbed in either the stomach, the gut, of somewhere between the spine and lung, every time its FATAL... has been lungs, chest... or having your head CUT OFF. Do people just lack even basic biology?

[@grantjackson8183]

Jecki fought with a level of ferocity that was pretty unbecoming of a jedi. Had Qimir taken her prisoner and turned her rather than, ya know, TRIPLE TAPPING her, she could have made for a formidable acolyte The more I think about it the more I wish they would have gone this route rather than just icing her, not least because Dafne Keen gave an excellent performance and was such a natural with the saber choreography, it's a real shame we won't get to see any more of her

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

I agree that it's a shame they killed her off simple because she's a great actor with the skills to be a convincing fighter.

[@viktubeproductions3314]

The triple tap was reminiscent of how Grievous kills Nadar Vebb

[@ClintHollingsworth]

Yeah. I REALLY wondered what the hell all the Star Wars pundits were bitching about when only a few episodes were out. Or even before. Alan, you are one of the few SW reviewers that I will watch anymore.

[@freelancenerd4804]

I liked this episode. Lots of action and was shocked when they killed off the horned kid, she was pretty great in this episode.

[@GenerationTech]

they're slowly figuring out you don't need to baby the audience i love taht

[@zachm25]

​@GenerationTech all depends on the director and what they're allowed to do, I suppose

[@nathansnape9614]

@@GenerationTech Throughout this episode I was thinking "Damn, Jeckie is doing really well against these Jedi killers" then she got too aggressive, too angry, knocked off Qmir's helmet which sealed her fate.

[@NekBodesh]

I figured the nameless Jedi would die but not Yord and Jecki. Their deaths were brutal. I actually didn’t catch that Qimir pulled out a light dagger on first watch. That reveal scene was siiiiick.

[@Goyanks28]

Great episode and best combat since the prequel movies. I’m so glad I don’t listen to losers on the internet and can formulate my own opinions.

[@jayesh1212-i3d]

This is probably the last channel where I can find some fair and honest commentary on SW

[@DatAsuna]

eckshartsladder and corey's datapad are good too.

[@blazingmonolith4323]

Literally not true, tired of seeing this comment. Thor Skywalker is a great channel giving fair analysis theory and criticism.

[@GCT1990]

Why.. Because fake Pete Davidson over here agrees with this nonsense?

[@LeafBoye]

​@@DatAsunaEckhart is so repetitive I stg it's all mathematical tier lists based on whatever he feels

[@JoseManley]

@@LeafBoye He is ok comparatively - Star Wars Explained is ok. Urban Acolyte is great for conjecture too. Star Wars Theory has disappointed me.

[@rawkmode6315]

Qimir is the best part of this show. He really feels like a Sith to me, if that makes sense. He seems even more of a Sith than Vader, since Vader always feels more like a, "fallen Jedi," than a true Sith to me. Also, I agree that he's probably an apprentice, and wants an acolyte as the first step to overthrowing the actual master.

[@OllamhDrab]

Shows like this *definitely* need a good villain and this guy delivers.

[@QuintusAntonious]

I wonder if it will turn out that Qimir is not a true Sith but some kind of street kid missed by the Jedi who has just studied Sith holocrons or something. It'd let them have a "Sith" without breaking canon since he wouldn't be a "real" Sith.

[@tompearce5418]

Both Dooku and Anakin were recruited specifically because it gave Palpatine an opportunity to corrupt a Jedi and manipulate them into unwitting and disposable pawns. A 'true' Sith is usually recruited in childhood or young adulthood (like Sidious or Maul) with no connection to the Jedi Order that might have betrayed the presence of the Banite Sith before they were ready to reveal themselves.

[@DrewLSsix]

​I think there still needs to be some connection back to the twins and the coven, my idea is he was born to the witches and rejected as male, and his dedication to the dark side has been he route to vengeance. Maybe he's a sith apprentice, maybe he's a loner that built his stregnth through arcane studies, sith and jedi writings lost to time, maybe he gained some level of training with the witches themselves to start off with?

[@joesmith201212]

I couldn't agree more its so nice to see the Sith with more depth and more motivation.... and this also sets up why the Jedi falls... they constantly underestimate the Sith... even Yoda says it's hate and suffering that motivates the sith... that was such an ignorant and childish view no wonder why Yoda lost. Sith is good mentally and deception. That's how they thrive

[@outdoortherapy6332]

Mae changing her hair to disguise herself - 1. Sol should 100% be able to sense that shit, that’s bullshit 2. Mae has a giant cult branding on her fucking forehead 😂

[@GenerationTech]

Or the smell of burning hair 😂 but bro is clearly traumatized.

[@Andre-fm1zy]

@@outdoortherapy6332 don't spoil the plot for the next episode, we don't know if they changed places yet. This show isn't that predictable 😂😂

[@dominikurbanek428]

​@@GenerationTech also Qimir was also unable to tell the difference between the two at first, it probably something along the lines that they're twins and have some sort of a force dyad similar to Kylo Ren and Rey

[@DarthNox66]

​@@GenerationTech Bro was in shock, not to mention as a twins born is some weird way, their energy in the Force can be really similar

[@Acekhan201]

Who said it was a brand?

[@theokaraman]

I have a feeling that the Acolyte would look much better if there was a 3hour-cut. I expect Patterson or somebody else will do this movie-cut after the show is finished

[@lv13david]

I agree, I am looking forward to it.

[@andrewhcit]

After two episodes, I was already starting to get the impression that it may have been originally envisioned as a film and then stretched out into a series.

[@brandonguffey5959]

As a medieval reenactor i wanna say it is very possible for 1 person to fight many people, even while vastly outnumbered, but it involves an extreme amount of running in wide circles around the enemy formation stabbing people in the legs trying to put their bodies between you and their comrades and it really helps to have a weapon with some sort of reach.

[@brandonguffey5959]

The truth is the trees would make it easier for them to surround him as they can use the trees as cover for their approach and block his escapes. You never wanna get surrounded in the forest.

[@suzannehughey4569]

Rules of war battle and combat 1 Study the area and your surroundings 2 If you can’t chase your opponents let them chase you 3 Put the battle on your terms

[@Darnley_10]

Episode 5 was a masterpiece imo. Manny Jacinto really solidified his spot as a top 2 actor in this show alongside Lee Jung-Jae. I now hate Osha however because she got Yord killed. I’ll never forgive her for that.

[@frankerricson7585]

The show truly dosen't deserve all the bad reviews as it recieved. More people should give it a watch and decide for themselves. Fight scene was great.

[@walter274]

I was shocked by the lack of plot armor in this episode. I enjoyed episode 5.

[@Илья-р5к6з]

For real. Jeckie lasting longer than 6 Jedi masters combined was really cool

[@kingxkai1179]

Why?

[@ibeghosten7504]

Reminds me of asoka but she didn't make the cut

[@eds1942]

@@Илья-р5к6з. I think most of them were knights or Padawans. Jecki had the benefit of seeing what happened to the others, maneuvering room, more light, an extra blade and knew that she really had to fight. Where as the other were practically tripping over each other, in the tree line, dark, still some particulates in the air, wondering why a Jedi was attacking them and after they caught on, wondered why their blades keep cutting out when their hits should’ve been disabling or fatal.

[@notmephisto1375]

Given that they needed to die to keep the Sith presence secret they kind of had the opposite of plot armor.

[@BEAST_M04]

And this review is why I'm still subbed to you. Many Star Wars channels have come and were good for a time, but then just became toxic, but you've always stayed consistent and level-headed. I also enjoy the perspective you provide on Star Wars, not heavily focusing on the Jedi, but more on the politics. Thanks for the videos!

[@alanstevenson001]

RIP Jecki - perhaps the best fight sequences were hers

[@edgarortiz1003]

The main problem with the show is the runtime at 30 min 😢. I’m upset that Yord and Jecki are gone mainly because I cared more for them than I do for the twins. 30 mins is just not enough time to flesh out characters.

[@alexthekid3377]

Me too😢😭

[@BenBootKHTwo]

I wanted to add another comment and I’ll do it here where I feel more comfortable. There are people believing Sol is going to get back to the Jedi Council and break the lore from the prequels. But we have to see if he does. I don’t think he will ever get back. This isn’t going to end well at all. Either he dies or something else.

[@DoneBrokeDatBack]

Imagine if we judged Star Trek: TNG (or hell any Star Trek show) off it's first few episodes. It'd have died immediately. Or Parks and Recreation. Or the Office. Or Breaking Bad. Or Supernatural. So many shows, man.

[@babytoshiro7014]

Don't forget Buffy or The Expanse. or Resident Alien.

[@Pyrowith2os]

Also REMEMBER EVERYONE. The ONLY person right now that knows for sure Qimir is a Sith from admission is Sol. Mae as well but Sol is the only Jedi right now to know for sure that he is a Sith

[@piercepryce3387]

Mate if you’ve got a red saber and cut Jedi down like that it’s pretty clear he’s a sith, even if he doesn’t tell anyone….

[@jimmyramos1989]

@@piercepryce3387you do know there’s dark Jedi right?

[@Pyrowith2os]

@@piercepryce3387 nah that doesn’t mean anything lmao. What was Savage Opress? Was he a Sith? What about the guy in Jedi Survivor? What about Taron Malakos from Jedi Fallen Order?

[@lso8000]

@@Pyrowith2os and what about all the Inquisitors, they aren't exactly Sith themselves. There can only be 2 Sith (Darth).

[@SpottedHares]

@@piercepryce3387 then why didn’t maul having a red light saber set off red flags

[@BugRib]

One thing the show REALLY needs to do is explain why Ki Adi Mundi is so certain in The Phantom Menace that "the Sith have been extinct for a millennium." Even if he never finds out what specifically happened to all those Jedi, even if he never saw this apparent Sith Lord, it would be really weird for him to not have strong suspicions of Sith involvement. If the show adequately explains it, at least it will (or at least should) silence all the people claiming the show breaks canon or lore. And, BTW, Mundi being alive at this time, 100 years before the Prequels, does NOT break Disney canon/lore!

[@romanmorozov6974]

That neck snapping was amazing and somewhat unexpected, especially since it was done on-screen

[@bazplayzyt6207]

a shame they had to do it with one of the less bad charictors

[@jamesallred460]

This whole show has felt like it could be an arc in one of the later seasons of TCW, and I am here for it. I just wish people could put aside their divisiveness and enjoy the show for what it is.

[@KangaZune]

KYLO RENS THEME CAN BE HEARD AT 28:01. Is Kimir connected to Kylo. Possibly being the first knight of ren. Would make sense as his costume resembles Kylos.

[@RyanHunter723]

I heard that for a split second as well. It definitely made me rethink Qimirs affiliations

[@maxo.9928]

OOH! Excellent catch! Maybe it does have something to do with the Knights of Ren!

[@SpottedHares]

My best guess is that he found Sith holocton, Lawrence just enough to settle down the path to be coming, but ultimately fails to make the final cross into anointing himself Darth. Considering that helmet, I’m gonna guess the knight of ten follow in his foot steps.

[@garrett8707]

I feel like it could also be a bit of a coincidence because it’s happened before. In the siege of mandalore, a piece of Rey’s theme is heard as Ahsoka lands on the platform, but she has no connection to Rey. I feel like it’s just to invoke darker vibes

[@genuineappeal3458]

Smilo Ren uses fart power to force push one, force push two, force push many.

[@frappes_]

I feel like Sol not noticing the twins have something to do with the twins themselves: they're one that are two so he literally can't sense them apart

[@windstormstrike]

He’s also probably in a lot of shock, even great force wielders aren’t immune from getting frazzled

[@bursegsardaukar]

Osha has the tattoo on her and Sol did ask her about it in an earlier episode.

[@reynoldsVincent]

I'm almost sure he wasn't fooled for a second. He wants to kill Mae more than save Osha, which is a cold turn for the apparently kind master. Cold stuff in this series.

[@jefferi78]

i think he did. he just playing with her and gain her trust. we just need to wait for the revealing.

[@AnjinThomas]

@@reynoldsVincent Yeah I noticed that he said "your sister" instead of naming her, it could suggest he knows and is trying not to tip her off

[@daryljohnson6738]

As clunky as the dialogue has been, the "what type of master hides his face? - You tell me.." line was a pretty slick way to call out that Sol has been masking his dark side. I've really liked the subtle things this show has done to illustrate the failures of the Jedi Order through the flaws of the characters. All of the "I think the Jedi are evil" arguments have shown up in different characters through the first 5 episodes, I think by the end this show will be the supporting evidence for that case.

[@lazfx]

I think you just made me want to watch this episode. The previous ones didn't make it 15mins into the viewing. As an old fart who was in the seat back when SW was born, I have been a little miffed about the Disney Era but your fandom of the universe has always made me smile and give this new SW universe a chance. Thanks man.

[@hendrikgreiner8449]

This might have been the most physically brutal thing Star Wars ever got into Live Action. Murdering Jacky that way is one thing, but that neck snap in full front of the audience? That is something you would expect from John Wick, not from Star Wars and it works in the best way possible in raising the stakes. Also, i agree with some people in the comments that we might be seeing the first steps of Plagueis in the galaxy. Since he is a Muun and we know from Legends that they can reach over 100 years in age, its entirely possible for him to be active here and now, so Qimir might be one of his earlier apprentices or agents. Also, the fact that Osha and Mae were created by using the force is something he would interested in, absolutely. P.S.: And because i cite my sources: The lifespan of the Muuns is mentioned in Rebel Force: Target, according to Wookiepedia.

[@raininglogic]

What stakes? Half the cast is dead, feels like such a waste.

[@keithfranklin214]

In Obi-Wan show Vader just plain murders an innocent kid snapping his neck.

[@00-JT]

@@raininglogicepisode 3 has most of the cast dead so what?

[@markuhler2664]

Why cite anything, especially concerning lifespans of various species? We've learned that things like that can change on a whim, and that canon is only what the latest product says it is. And I have wanted to see on screen Tenebrous, Plagueis, and a young Sidious since the prequels.

[@keithfranklin214]

@@markuhler2664 No one changed canon. Maybe legends, but thats it.

[@CalebThomasMedia]

When the sith said “you brought her” that hit HARD.

[@joeylindeman2842]

My 11y.o. daughter is sooo going to be in tears to see Jecky get slaughtered like a stormtrooper.

[@GenerationTech]

Nooo 🤣

[@KCCOmug]

She put up a better fight than most storm troopers. She got taken by surprise.

[@ryankwon8785]

Sol is pretty much in shock and has too much trauma and guilt to tell the Jedi about Qimir. It’s why he is likely taking “Osha” to Brendock to come clean without even making a report. Sol is also too traumatized and unstable that he pretty much didn’t use the Force to know Mae is “Osha.” Plus, the wording Qimir made is kind of overlooked. He said to Sol that “you would call me a Sith.” He did not say “I am a Sith.” It’s like a racist saying that other people would call him a Nazi (ex. The Boys show’s revelation in Season 2) but he is not saying the Nazis are back. Qimir’s final plan is obvious. He is going to break Sol’s spirit by making Osha his new acolyte and kill Sol. Qimir is likely a retconned version of Darth Venamis (Venom -> Qimir makes a poison in episode 2). I pretty much advise to be skeptical until watching the Season Finale to make an authentic critique for the show. Who know? The show might end with Plagueis killing Qimir and taking Osha to experiment on her for his studies on Midichlorians. Acolyte is a horror mystery story so I expect a horrifying ending and Plagueis making Osha a lab rat is the most terrifying way to end it. What Plagueis did to test subjects like Venamis: “Traveling to Sojourn-a moon owned by Plagueis and maintained as a personal retreat-Venamis was bested in a duel and forced to ingest a coma-bloom, a poisonous species of flora, putting him into a coma. As part of his experiments with midi-chlorians over the following decades, Plagueis and his droid 11-4D kept the comatose Venamis alive to manipulate and study. Around the year 42 BBY, Venamis was eventually allowed to die by Plagueis, his usefulness finally fulfilled. Afterwards, he was resurrected and killed again and again in the presence of 11-4D, as well as Plagueis's apprentice, Darth Sidious, until Venamis' organs finally ceased to function and Plagueis finally allowed the Bith to die for the final time.”

[@shaydowsith348]

Venimis was both. This guy is human not bith

[@shaydowsith348]

Bith not both. Damn auto spelling.

[@runakovacs4759]

@@shaydowsith348 Hence the "Retcon."

[@herrnase4340]

Horror/Mystery ? Wild take.

[@hunterstark9556]

Awesome theory!

[@reynoldsVincent]

This reviewer is the only one trying to be fair in both criticism and praise. He is right that there are some flaws. But I can't remember being so into SW characters since Andor. It was upsetting losing these two young jedi who weren't masters but were solid characters the viewer had come to be anchored by. It would be tragic if the series showed more serious flaws at this point, because its ambition is greater than the usual Disney series. It definitely isn't coasting on fan service but is going for drama, without even being perfectly cast for that. The right thing to do is to watch it and I'm invested in the surviving characters and hope the daring is met with success. I've blocked dozens of negative, dismissive KZbinrs, many I've watched for years. SO it seems like a Rubicon or watershed SW series, bound to split the fandom for a few years. I'm fairly confident that it will eventually win viewers, but the stakes can still go higher if the rest of the season can match the best episodes so far.

[@jordanvozenilek1092]

Excellent insight as always. You'd think by now that people would have noticed all of the live action shows spend their whole first season setting up the second season. I appreciate your ability to keep a level head and how thoroughly you analyze every little detail.

[@Pyrowith2os]

When the Sith pieced up Yord, I completely forgot there could be children watching that shit was so lit bro I was not expecting it at all

[@russellstevens9927]

"Sith Lords" shish kabobbing the good guys, stabbing up children in triangle patterns, and breaking necks on screen is a level of darkness I NEVER thought Disney would embrace. 😂😂😂

[@Pyrowith2os]

@@russellstevens9927 I remember when they cut thanos’ head off in endgame and said to my buddies “this is a disney movie!” And now we got this and I’m so hype for it😂 makes me even more excited for what Deadpool is about to be too in a way

[@keithfranklin214]

@@russellstevens9927 Vader snapped a kids neck in Obi-Wan show and that was a Disney show. They showed slavers using electo whips on kids.

[@Pyrowith2os]

@@keithfranklin214 yeah but you kinda expect Vader walking down a street to kill an unnamed kid to bait out Kenobi. This was different. This was more of a shock factor killing the two side characters they’ve kinda shown the most in a pretty brutal way, was definitely something I wasn’t expecting.

[@keithfranklin214]

@@Pyrowith2os The point is Disney did it.

[@gbabymatapapiyer]

Thanks for being a voice of reason and honesty with your reviews. For most others, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to delusional reviews 😂😂

[@corwinatreides9568]

I enjoyed this episode, homeboy wrecked the jedi and i approve it was well done.

[@Duskcosmog]

I like how people are complaining about the dialouge. My question is, do you not rember the prequels. The dialouge is clunky for both, but the prequels are still loved and praised

[@Squiddy-go1du]

Nah why did they have to do Yord and Jeki like that. 😭

[@jackmorgan4817]

Jecki yh shame shes gone but honestly thank god Yord is gone ahaha

[@Squiddy-go1du]

@@jackmorgan4817 lol. I wasn’t a fan of Yord at the start but he started to grow on me.

[@bazplayzyt6207]

@@jackmorgan4817 yord was less annoying then jecki so i disagree

[@KnightsWithoutATable]

Allen keeps changing changing systems and even regions he's in the Galaxy. Are you on the run from somebody? Are bounty hunters after you? Did the dolphins get too close? Is it is one of the corps?

[@Lilac9582]

Dolphins started to hire bounty orcas to track them down, thankfully the republic is helping them get to new locations every day

[@ReySkywalker2]

Did nobody notice Kylo Ren’s theme throughout the episode? There’s definitely going to be a Knights Of Ren connection.

[@RyanHunter723]

Absolutely

[@RyanHunter723]

Absolutely

[@genuineappeal3458]

Smilo Ren force push one, force push two, force push many.

[@grantjackson8183]

Qimir to me doesn't actually seem all that powerful to me in this episode! Sol cleared him easily and even Jecki, a padawan, broke his stance, staggered him, and gained the upper hand when she switched into Jar'Kai!

[@GenerationTech]

Smart man ;)

[@babytoshiro7014]

As Alan said he's not all that powerful just smart. And really in a street fight you just have to be smarter or more cunning.

[@xtrafunk]

@@babytoshiro7014 lmao

[@dolandarkxgrandayy6953]

Sol is a Jedi Master and Qimir is just an apprentice. Jeckie was on the back foot the entire fight.

[@grantjackson8183]

@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 I disagree! I think Jecki really held her own and was extremely aggressive! Especially when she was using her and Kelnacca's lightsabers

[@ChrisHaar]

I can’t wait for the fake outrage because they don’t understand Cortosis and think it’s new. 😂

[@shadowlord2849]

I was excited to see it in use, wasn't expecting it, and it was used well

[@katsarelas1947]

@@ChrisHaar “omg lightsabers shorting out? Disney has killed Star Wars AGAIN!”

[@ibidiby1]

It's been really interesting seeing people who profess to know lore, but clearly don't and yet are super confident in their beliefs that SW is ruined. So far it's hasn't broken anything lore wise. SW fans seem to be fixated that in a giant universe, the only force users sith and Jedi and everything else breaks that.

[@Gamer0049]

I thought it was Ultrachrome😂

[@ChrisHaar]

@@ibidiby1 exactly

[@TeamCardgaming]

Thanks for mentioning cortosis. I had no idea what material that was and I was extremely confused because that is not how Beskar works. But that also means I have disagree because I don't think they did a good job here. If I was confused, I am pretty sure many others were too. Normally I am not a big fan when shows have to explain everything, or think the viewers don't get what is happening in the plot - like when in Rings of Power they have to put "Mordor" on the screen, so that really everyone gets that this land is now Mordor - but they really catched me off guard when introducing this in the middle of a fight scene and don't explain it. We have not scene anything like this in any life action or animated show ever. The only thing close to it is beskar but we know that beskar does not work that way.

[@Geek0ftheWeek]

I dont always agree with your takes Alan but I do respect them and how you came to those conclusions.

[@shouhanyun8203]

If all star wars fans were like this instead of throwing hate everywhere

[@popcultking]

at the end of the episode you can hear the kylo ren theme play and Qimir only said he was what the "Jedi would call Sith", which leads me to believe he's the first Ren. His entire aesthetic matches the Ren in the 2017 Star Wars comic who lives in the Imperial Era and and Kylo Ren. I also think Sol will be the 19th of the lost twenty and will leave the Jedi Order by the end of episode 8, as he is the only one that knows of Qimir's existence if he really is a Sith

[@omy8443]

Something tells me Sol is never gonna make it back to the academy and tell the Jedi about the Sith.

[@Scp-682-]

Probably right doubt Mai will let him get that far if so doubt the Green bald woman will let him spill the beans to anyone

[@CamoCraft109]

I'm getting that impression too. After the major deaths we had in this episode, I now wouldn't be surprised if Mae actually completes her task and kills Sol.

[@Scp-682-]

@@CamoCraft109 probably that way it would fit canonically with the prequels sense mr forehead said the Sith haven’t been seen for a thousand years and if sol dies then they would never now it was a Sith that trained Mae and would just be one of those weird cases of everyone disappearing without a trace

[@markuhler2664]

And no one would care that 12 Jedi just disappeared, including 4 masters? They have busts in the library of the 20 Jedi who left the Order. While I do think that is the probable way to reconcile things, it's ... weak. It's breaking my suspension of disbelief and frustrating that I have to search out reviewers that try to show justification. And the issues of pacing, characterization, character motivations, just basic story telling issues are never answered.

[@thesharpercoder]

Jedi : Youngling, Padawan, Knight, Master Sith : Acolyte, Apprentice, Lord, Master

[@nickarooroo6397]

I was in shock. Jecki was a total badass this episode :(

[@alexthekid3377]

You are under arrest for the master (I forgot her name), master torbin,master kelnaca and the fire that killed your FAMILY.

[@ImTheShowman]

So episode 1-4 had me watching but not bought in. It just felt so heavy and the moments that brought Intrige where then lost in 10 additional minutes of minutia. But this episode... ...This episode got me! It's what you wait for and then when it hits you (true story) yell out loud THATS WHY WE LOVE STAR WARS! The choreography was definitely high level. Out of the box use of force power and swordsmanship was inspiring. And even knowing who "the master" was from literally ep 1, it was still a cool reveal. I really agree with everyone saying they should have released it all at once. Even though I don't feel it would have made a difference for everyone who's set on hating it, it might have swayed a few more to seeing it's not braking anything, and it's not the franchise slayer it's being made out to be. I almost wonder if a series stated like this.. would it have been better received from the premier?

[@d-resmin]

Villain motives are important, and Qimir's montives play into the themes of the show. His motive is that he doesn't like the uptight rules of the jedi. It shows how extreme they are about not attacking. The police will pull their guns out on an apparently unarmed citizen just in case. On top of that, a Force user is never truly unarmed. Their own mind is a weapon. You have to fight them until they are disabled or killed.

[@MandelbrotMetalhead]

I really hate that rule, it's never existed before. High Republic Jedi are the worst Jedi

[@TiltedVisions]

Flowers for Jecki

[@babytoshiro7014]

🌹🌹🌹🌹😥😥

[@mkhud50n]

An honor to witness her transform into the Force.

[@dp-ve6bj]

Jecki the beast, rip!

[@josephle2381]

Rest in piss bozo same with yord 🚬🚬💨💨💨

[@orokusaki1243]

Jecki gets tricorned - I was like "lets fkn go!!!" (repeat the scene like a dozen times) Jord gets a neck massage - I was like "whoa ho ho, ho!" (repeat the scene like 3 times)

[@sfkeepay]

Funny, those are scenes I’ll ff through if I rewatch. They were obviously very important and compelling, but I only needed to see them once. To each their own…

[@orokusaki1243]

@@sfkeepay Indeed. I liked the choreography of them and the implications. Fast action scenes can be over too quick to fully process on one go.

[@sfkeepay]

@@orokusaki1243 , Good point, I concede. It’s impressive that the choreography here is actually worth close attention.

[@alejandronieto4212]

This must be one of the best fight scenes in all Star Wars (close to Duel of Fates and Anakin vs Obi Wan), and no doubt the most brutal one (far over Rogue One Vader or Maul rampaging against clones). Guy came out and decided this was a horror movie now. Sol had one hell of a padawan too. I totally didnt expect this to go as hard as it did, and man I am glad it did.

[@basicsimp8798]

The episode is amazing. Episode 4 and 5 definitely placed together but the wait was worth it. Love the detachable light dagger.

[@vasyear]

To me when Jecki was killed is a direct call back to when Grevious killing Nahdar Vebb, Right down to how many suprise attacks that killed both . 3 saber stabs and 3 blaster bolts

[@EarthSoulsAstrology]

The apprentice wants an apprentice. Got to be a rule of two

[@toqat]

It's the same as with Count Doku and Asajj Ventress or Savage Opress. It doesn't break the rule of two. The apprentice is allowed to have it's acolyte.

[@onedeep6460]

Such a retarded rule

[@DrewLSsix]

Who do you report a violation to if that rule is broken? It seems like the self interested power hungry bad guys are going to do what they want when it comes down to it. I think the rule was a stop gap put in place to keep the sith from getting hunted down at their weakest, with the full understanding that at some point, a sith being a sith will break the rule when they feel they can do so without consequences.

[@themuffinman5755]

​@@DrewLSsix If the master is not strong enough to end his apprentice when he steps too far out of line, then it's about that time for the apprentice to take over the mantle.

[@mtzzero]

In legends Darth Vader trained Star killer to use as a weapon to overthrow Sidious. And in the OG trilogy he ltries to recruit Luke to overthrow the emperor. The Sith never follow the rule of two, it’s up to the master to enforce it

[@NoBreakz]

This episode was 9/10 It’s funny how people try to hate on it. At this point if this isn’t entertaining enough then stop watching it

[@Scandic45]

Generation Tech and star wars Explained and even Eckharts are the only positive channels i have found so far, which is honestly incredible that negativity is the main drive these days of tv series or movies to judge something completely before it is out to not watch and still judge it, I would never make a review of something before seeing all of it. It's a shame al ot of Professional series reviewers only review the first 1-3 episodes and not the series as a whole either

[@byronhorde5892]

"Heavy Spoilers" is another.

[@pcb462]

A Guy Who Loves Star Wars is another. He’s new but I’m digging his channel as well as those mentioned.

[@Bicketybam68]

To me it is like when you buy a product off Amazon and virtually the moment it arrives they want a review... what, you want me to review a product based solely on the fact that I got it? Give me a few months of use and I will tell you if it is a great product or a good product or a shit product... although shit products don't need that much time to use it to figure it out. How can you really review a show when you haven't seen all of it.

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

Star Wars Explained too

[@corinneferrarolam5101]

Add “Star Wars Fanatic” and “Screen Crush” to the list of positive Star Wars channels. This list is needed! Let’s support positive creators with quality content such as Generation Tech and these others!

[@dmangq]

Bro thanks for the positive spin on this show. Yes, it's not the best, but it's entertaining.

[@bigsarge2085]

😄 "Traffic cops getting ambushed by Rambo!"

[@kieronfarley1924]

I like how grounded the action feels in this show, like it makes sense that if you guys are really close quarters you might throw out an elbow or a headbutt. Idk it’s so simple but to me it just makes it way more relatable subconsciously.

[@ssotkow]

18:30 Even if Disney stick the landing, the haters are still gonna hate. Heck, they rate it to oblivion even prior to watching. So the mob clearly don't care if the series is good or not.

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

One good fight scene does not excuse awful writing

[@eddiemelville5576]

Maybe the mob does not like it for legit reasons? Ki-Adi Mundi being aware of someone going around killing jedi (and now more have been killed)/the high council not being told of it during a time of peace/whatever in the world Episode 3 was and the creation of life cheapening Anakin. Jedi went from being a mostly invicible order that were only to be taken down after 1000 years of careful planning by the Sith to someone who might not even be a Sith cutting them down like butter. I don't mind new content but still got to stay consistent with lore for me to like it.

[@shouhanyun8203]

​@@eddiemelville5576high council wasn't told cuz the order is corrupt leading to their downfall although that's prob a stretch. Ki adi mundi doesn't just assume he's sith. Every force user on the galaxy doesn't have to be just Jedi/sith so his prequel line is valid. Regular Jedi knights were rather weak compared to high council members, so a sith apprentice or lord killing them wasn't too shocking. Plus they barely killed 10 Jedi, not anywhere near toppling the order. Anakin specialty, even if it is lore breaking, isn't ruined as I don't see how this would unbalance the force. The force created Anakin because of the unbalance created by plagueis while the twins were created through dark magic. I would assume the force wasn't unbalanced because they were twins, one dark one light. I get complaining about the story but please use some sense when talking about the lore

[@eddiemelville5576]

@@shouhanyun8203 I think you gave a fair explanation. I'm still not a big fan of the story, but when you explain it like that, it is at least somewhat plausible. I have done the audio books of Dark Plageuis and Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader plus hours of videos on comics, etc. That said, chances are, you have read more of the lore than myself. Do you think this character is an actual Sith Apprentice or more like the title would suggest...a dark side acolyte or dark side user? Still surprised by the level of power Qimir. has personally ("They fly now?") but I think the element of surprise is plausible considering these jedi probably didn't think they would be encountering a sith-like combatant

[@genuineappeal3458]

The blaming of one The blaming of two The blaming of many

[@matrixmessiah6083]

Once again, you're having the best level headed take in the Star Wars fandom. Keep up the good work Allen.

[@projectshift7989]

great to hear a positive review as always Alan , there s just too much Star Wars negitivity out there .

[@garytaylor7450]

Finally! A review that's level-headed. Yes, The Alcolyte is clunky at times, but so too was the original trilogy. Great review.

[@fulcrumsee5968]

THEY ALL DIIIIIIIED !!!!! I love when plot armor fails.

[@alexthekid3377]

Over time

[@invaderIRK1]

This didn’t feel like prequel starwars at all. That Leslie lady who is in charge of the show openly stated she hates the prequels and George and that the ‘prequels are proof that starwars is better off without him’. For that reason I cant accept her work. She has no respect for George or his work

[@justinbradley4083]

When I saw him use Trakata, that was when I knew everyone was dead. No one who uses Trakata is a pushover

[@acendantoverlord5737]

My opinion of this episode is “a spectacle without substance.” I understand the notion of waiting for the whole season to be finished to have your final thoughts, but the writing shouldn’t be unbearably bad until they throw a “Neuron activated” fight scene. As great as this fight scene is it does nothing to justify the poor writing. I’d give the episode a 5/10 with 3 of those points being the fight itself, but the show so far remains at a 2/10 for me.

[@1zieske1]

The show would be 70%+ user rating if Mae and Osha were better written, directed, and acted. I know Star Wars is known for a certain degree of clunkiness, but this is another level when the characters can't be consistent across consecutive scenes.

[@xtrafunk]

completely agree. they're the weakest part of the whole show. even now moving forward the fact that the mae/osha plot relies on them being *perfectly identical* is cringe. this show had some really cool ideas and features solid performances, but it's gonna take a miracle to offset what feels like a flaw in its very foundation.

[@00-JT]

I also think that the rating would be higher if the marketing and interviews didn’t upset the dude bro fans.

[@eddiemelville5576]

Those complaining about the complainers obviously were not around when the same thing happened with those of us that grew up loving the Prequels. At the end of the day, it's stupid to say "Well you just aren't a true Star Wars fan if you don't like it." We each have our own reasons for why we may or may not like the Acolyte or any Star Wars content. Personally, I haven't liked much of what Disney has produced outside of Mando seasons 1 and 2, Rogue One, certain aspects of Ahsoka, and Andor. George Lucas and those closer to his vision like James Luceno win the day for me.

[@4Refros]

I still think the zabrak witch is the one pulling the strings

[@user78405]

material have its owned weakness...its very brittle when it can shatter like glass by amount of abuse it get from fight...and his brace got broken after so many uses ...while helmet still survive but not long ...also Beskar does very little in defense from saber attacks, its why sith rather have more cortosis ...a whole lot of it , but that is very hard to find and get huge quantity that many miners died to get it to produce just tiny amount.

[@-thrawn-]

Many people watching this right now are so high on Disney hate and so entrenched in the social/political discourse around it that they can’t really acknowledge their own confirmation bias and allow themselves to at least enjoy some parts of the show. This is also yet another Star Wars series that would have really benefited from being released all at once. It would have prevented the weekly hate from being farmed, at the least.

[@kelticowl9400]

I agree that this should have been released all at once, could have benefited from being able to see what all this is building too. Unfortunately Mae's sudden flip-flops just make her seem really confusing. "I'll turn myself into the Jedi", then she fights off the Jedi she wanted to surrender too, "Osha is all that matters" but then leaves her behind in the forest. I really hope there's a decent payoff.

[@Enigma75614]

The writing is just genuinely terrible.

[@RichA-hj7hz]

@@Enigma75614i agree the writing is a big issue

[@-thrawn-]

@@Enigma75614 it’s definitely got its problems, but people are also on hyperbolic overdrive for every little thing. I get that people are frustrated, but it’s like mental self-flagellation to go into this looking for everything that’s wrong about it rather than trying to enjoy what can be enjoyable and criticizing what should be critiqued.

[@josephle2381]

I enjoyed the fight scene but Mae’s trashy ass dialogue and writing is pissing me off. “I love you but now I don’t so I’m gonna light you on fire but I love you again now”🤦‍♂️

[@Benjamin0119]

Episode 5 was heartbreaking! I'm still shaken up from it.

[@katsarelas1947]

It was definitely a upturn to the series!

[@fullcircleessentials]

They needed to do something cause it was turning to be 🗑....Nope its still 🗑😂🤣

[@Atrail_Mckinley4786]

​@fullcircleessentials The show isn't even over, though. Also, why is it trash if the show isn't over?

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@fullcircleessentials Bro pretending he not watching the so call "trash" he's talking about lol Oh, wait he'll say I just come to the comments. Yeah, right as if he's not watching and listening to Alan. hahaha coping hard

[@fullcircleessentials]

@@babytoshiro7014 😆

[@BroskiBigDuck]

@@babytoshiro7014 Sounds like you are the one coping hard, someone doesn't agree with you so you deflect and attack when no one brought you into it, the original comment you just don't agree with... just childish behavior. Go drink some water, do some push ups and do better cause it's not a good look to be an egotistical moron who trolls online for attention.

[@amransom26]

I’m late to the video but I’m convinced Sol won’t even make it back to Coruscant. Based on the trailers and what scenes we have left, something happens that prevents him from making it back to the Jedi Temple.

[@anthonymorris4211]

It seems that way..

[@GrimLogan]

Night was and amazing episode.

[@Idkidkidk716]

Yeah the neck snapping was surprising I haven’t seen it like that in Star Wars b4 I thought the 5th episode was pretty good ngl. Master sol is my favorite character.

[@WasThisMail]

-Heavily criticized writing -Over the top epically choreographed fight scenes -Controversial retcons - Ki Adi Mundi The prequels are back baby!!!

[@agentofchaos7198]

🤣

[@lendial]

The reveal was obvious but the execution of the duels was fantastic. It absolutely makes sense how he was able to decimate the jedi. This show is not without its faults but the hate its getting is crazy. no one hates star wars a much as star wars "fans."

[@Chew_bacca1138]

All the bad reviews are cause so many bots, if the reviews are true and honest from real people, then The Acolyte must have about 2-3 times the viewership of all 3 seasons of The Mandalorian COMBINED, and I highly doubt that, the sheer number of reviews being submitted is astronomical in comparison to ALL other Star Wars shows, The reviews need to be looked over manually and proof given if I am to ever believe Rotten Tomatoes/IMDB again.

[@GenerationTech]

I mean not even 50% is crazy

[@thegreatsnowblizzard3196]

I think it could just be the negative reaction to it. For example every semester my uni will send out a survey for students to fill out about how they thought the course went. Generally those who have a great experience will fill it out and those that have a bad experience will fill it out. Those that have an ok to average experience won't fill it out due to finding it ok and therefore not needing a response. Therefore if a certain subsection views something negatively it results in the negative outcome.

[@Chew_bacca1138]

@thegreatsnowblizzard3196 um, Obi-Wan, Ashoka and Book of Boba Fett had around 5,000 total reviews each, each season or mandalorian around 8,500 each average, and The Acolyte (which isn't even finished), has nearly 30,000, those numbers don't look fishy to you?

[@thegreatsnowblizzard3196]

​​@@Chew_bacca1138 like I said reviews are mostly done out of passion. I mostly think because of how divisive the discourse has been I feel like a higher percentage of the fanbase that normally would have just let it be decided to give it a negative review. I think it's important to clarify that my response is to "all bad reviews are bots" as personally I disagree with that statement.

[@MysticTroll]

The fact that other movies with the word Acolyte in the title with No connection to this show whatsover have been review nuked by association is very telling.

[@alexandercampbell9165]

Why are so many people calling plot holes and bad storytelling when there is still quite a few episodes of the show. If 1 episode killed off a dozen Jedi and 2 main and liked characters how can we tell what will happen next. Some people are calling bad storytelling for sol not noticing the twin switch we have quite literally seen like 2 scenes (about 2 minutes in total), so why don’t we wait until the next episode is released to be judgemental about wether or not sol should have noticed.

[@elliottenglish2388]

14 year old here, loved the darkness of this episode, also was a HUGE fan of Andor so I guess not all teens are pussys lol.

[@saveritas731]

You remain a voice of reason in uncivilized times Alan. Thanks for what you do!