These 3 Ships Did all the Heavy Lifting for the Imperial Navy (No Star Destroyers)

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@Ghostpotato7
@Ghostpotato7 6 ай бұрын
I love Generation Tech cause he makes it seem like the Star Wars universe is our own, he makes it seem real and relatable
@jamesbrice3267
@jamesbrice3267 6 ай бұрын
Like the Empire could have worked with more diplomacy and competence.
@mycelia_ow
@mycelia_ow 6 ай бұрын
​@@jamesbrice3267 Maybe if Palp founded a Sith Order like the Galactic Empire of old had, they wouldn't have fallen to rebels.
@mycelia_ow
@mycelia_ow 6 ай бұрын
​@@jamesbrice3267 Yes just like the old republic's "Galactic Empire", they were much stronger and more competent than the Empire. I think that was only possible because the Galactic Republic existed at the same time. They kept each other in check, had their own force order, and had more modest ambitions. All despite also being run by a Sith Emperor. It's like Palp learned nothing from that time period.
@luiszarate4695
@luiszarate4695 6 ай бұрын
feels like a history lesson tbh
@butteredbutters
@butteredbutters 3 ай бұрын
@@mycelia_ow Would you argue that the Empire would be more effective if Thrawn was Emperor rather than Palpatine? The one problem Thrawn had wasn't his genius, but his political skills. Vader can't help either, he's the pure muscle and apprentice. Granted Thrawn could potentially have Vader help him in political matters, but I doubt that'd go well lol. If anything, I'd imagine Thrawn would use Mas Amedda in a more heavy role, at least with being the political face of the Empire.
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 6 ай бұрын
Another nice thing about the Quasar Fire-class cruiser-carrier is that it can actually house the TIEs that are being ferried around by the Gozanti-class and Arquitens-class light cruisers. In the hanger bays they have the space to do all of the maintenance and repair needed to keep all the TIEs in the patrol fleet up and running. I can imagine some of the Gozanti-class cruisers used their outsized cargo capacity to keep the other ships supplied on longer patrols as well. These three ships are very complementary.
@ForestRaptor
@ForestRaptor 6 ай бұрын
Very much so! Don't even need to secure a solid base on a planet surface to maintain your combat effectiveness. It's a HUGE boon! Something that I would definitely implement in a TTRPG game if I could :P
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 6 ай бұрын
Very good point
@kaykaykay5572
@kaykaykay5572 3 ай бұрын
Just imagine when the empire start using carriers/fighters warfare
@mattheweaton9111
@mattheweaton9111 6 ай бұрын
The Venator wasn’t ever retired fully. They were still in service after A New Hope. There’s a warlord in Star Wars who had over 100 Venator and Acclimator class assault ships and he didn’t just poop them out of his butt. The Venator just stopped being produced. as long as it was in good condition stayed in imperial service until it was too broken to fix. If not it was scrapped.
@ironfist7789
@ironfist7789 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, we just mostly saw Vader's squadron
@callumarmitage5375
@callumarmitage5375 6 ай бұрын
Btw the galactic empire should have kept these ships around their heavier ships imperial class executor class if they kept em around because of the amount of fighters they could hold they could have destroyed the rebellion easily personally if I would palpatine I would forget about the death star and use resources for more ships like that's and super star destroyers as the big guns
@RamblingRodeo
@RamblingRodeo 6 ай бұрын
I love the Venator, it just looks like a REAL workhorse unlike the newer vessels, it looks more military navy than what we got in the older films.
@Taron_HaiTar
@Taron_HaiTar 6 ай бұрын
​@@callumarmitage5375 Also add *listening on the only 3 at least somewhat competent figures in tha entire Empire!* They are: Thrawn with his TIE Defender program, Vader with his expirience and have enough brains to only *sometimes* listen to Tarkin, and finally Piat(I don't remember his name exactly) the Head of Imperial Army with his *clearly working* numbers/graphs system! And for the Sith's and myself's(because in this case I'm Palpatine) sake, *don't listen at all to that idiot of the man Tarkin, he'll just end up ruining everything, like THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF USAGE OF THE DEATH STAR ITSELF and Alderaan sithshow!*
@djcody492
@djcody492 6 ай бұрын
Canon or Legends?
@worldwanderer91
@worldwanderer91 6 ай бұрын
This is why Allen will never advance in the ranks of the Imperial Navy. He makes too much sense, and he would disagree too much with Tarkin
@zacharybyford8200
@zacharybyford8200 6 ай бұрын
Tarkin would probably assign him to a Gozanti that conveniently disappears on its first mission, unless Thrawn finds him first then he'd be flying an ISD in record time.
@johnray1956
@johnray1956 6 ай бұрын
@@zacharybyford8200 That is a pretty good point, Rebels would be cooked if allen ever joined the Empire.
@robertwasowski7626
@robertwasowski7626 6 ай бұрын
@@johnray1956 not only empire but anyone from earth that played empire at war (on mods especially)
@JamarD421
@JamarD421 5 ай бұрын
​@@johnray1956He'd no doubt defect to The Rebellion soon.
@butteredbutters
@butteredbutters 3 ай бұрын
@@zacharybyford8200 Feel like Allen and Thrawn would make great friends, and would be terrifying for the Rebels.
@commandplay
@commandplay 6 ай бұрын
The Gozanti was truly the underdog workhorse of the Empire. It's smaller craft like these that are useful for patrols, transport, and fleet escort.
@Darth-vade123
@Darth-vade123 5 ай бұрын
It is but it's also the ships captain hated commenting the most
@davidponseigo8811
@davidponseigo8811 6 ай бұрын
I like that you mentioned how the Americans worked with Vietnamese villagers against the NVA , my father was a US Air Force Air Police Colonel and was a advisor to South Vietnam. He was one of the first advisors and took part in many of the first early battles even before we were fully engaged with North Vietnam and was very highly decorated.
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault 6 ай бұрын
See, light ships alone would be enough to more effectively clamp down on piracy than most republic worlds outside the main hyperlanes. This is totally cost effective. Clamps down on piracy improves economy, this ingratiates the populations, has a (even if token) military presence for Reassurance/intimidation as well as general imperial operational business. All for a very low price. Its pure win.
@robertnelson9599
@robertnelson9599 6 ай бұрын
If only Palpatine listened to Thrawn instead of Tarkin.
@tonyyao4785
@tonyyao4785 6 ай бұрын
If they wanted weapons, strap more laser turrets and point defense on a gozanti and call it a day
@literalsarcasm1830
@literalsarcasm1830 6 ай бұрын
Anyone else find it strange that life long politician Sheev Palpatine, who spent most of his adult life as a Republic senator, had almost no idea how to operate a functioning galactic government?
@Darth_Xionn
@Darth_Xionn 6 ай бұрын
He rushed it too much, honestly. He went from kindly Chancellor to horrible dictator in a snap. If he had really taken his time (Since he planned to be immortal, why not take your time?). Maybe it would've worked better for him.
@daltonwilson9432
@daltonwilson9432 6 ай бұрын
He didn't care to run a government. By that time he was so consumed with the dark side, the only thing he was concerned with was his obsession of power and the pursuit of immortality.
@B_Leo86
@B_Leo86 3 ай бұрын
Yes I do, and I have simple theory to explain this complete 180 change in character, the plan was never Palpatine's plan, it was his master Darth Plagueis's plan... worse Palpatine killed Plagueis before Plagueis told him what happened after the forming the Empire or even tell Palpatine the finer details of the plan, because when he saw Plagueis creating Anakin, he saw it as threat meant to replace him. I mean if you re-watch episodes 1, 2 and the Clone Wars know knowing Palpatine's the bad guy, you can see he's completely unstable and just barely holding his façade together, he's at his most natural when he's Sidious being cruel and vindictive, he's actually pretty uncomfortable being Palpatine except when he's manipulating people... I'll bet Plagueis's complete plan was better, smarter and vastly more subtle than Palpatine's ham-fisted attempts. At least that my theory.
@anthonyramirez9925
@anthonyramirez9925 2 ай бұрын
He originally had people who would call him out on his bs and tell him an idea was bad, but eventually he surrounded himself with yes men, who just agreed with everything he said
@andrewshaughnessy5828
@andrewshaughnessy5828 6 ай бұрын
I'm running a Star Wars RPG campaign using the old West End Games system. During one mission I replaced the generic armoured transport from the adventure module with a Gozanti. Then I placed the 1/270 scale model from the X-wing game on the table and said "That's what you're facing!" (And yes, it was carrying a TIE escort.) Good times!
@InvictusByz
@InvictusByz 6 ай бұрын
Damn, a Gozanti with escort sounds like a great RPG fight. Perfect to set the difference in scale between normal people, even normal badasses, and the Protagonists of numbered films. Total background fluff if Luke is there, but for everyone else? Its a meaningful ship to see, and those Escorts make it more dangerous.
@mso82
@mso82 6 ай бұрын
The Gozanti Class Cruiser is one of my favorite ships in the Star Wars universe. It's just solidly built, looks utilitarian, and is a great size for a hero ship.
@tonyyao4785
@tonyyao4785 6 ай бұрын
Like a discount Corvus from battlefront 2. That’s the dream home ship for me, but likely most of us would be happy to live in a gozanti
@ComfortsSpecter
@ComfortsSpecter 3 ай бұрын
The Beautifully Simple Ingenious functionality of these flying boxes add’s so much to Star Wars They just work
@luisemoralesfalcon4716
@luisemoralesfalcon4716 6 ай бұрын
Man, I am delighted that at least the Venator was being kept in service at the start of the Galactic Civil War.
@spyguy8002
@spyguy8002 6 ай бұрын
I love the gonzanti to me it is a near perfect design. Great for delivering cargo or troops while having ample protection and being able to carry a compliment of ties of walkers
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 6 ай бұрын
Same. It’s a great multi-role modular ship.
@welkingunther5417
@welkingunther5417 6 ай бұрын
​@@jeffreycarman2185And on top of that, it's cheap, so it wouldn't be hard at all to make plenty of them
@allthatwecan
@allthatwecan 6 ай бұрын
Palpatine would have gotten away with it, too, if not for those meddling kids!
@robertnelson9599
@robertnelson9599 6 ай бұрын
Do you mean Tarkin? Tarkin caused a lot of problems.
@MrFomhor
@MrFomhor 6 ай бұрын
Nice, Scoob!😂
@Shadx27
@Shadx27 6 ай бұрын
We need to see canon Victory Class, Strike Cruiser, Gladiator, etc and a few more from X Wing/Tie Fighter games/ Table Top Armada. The days of 'we can only make so many models' when people have made these models and could be purchased far cheaper than making is available.
@krispalermo8133
@krispalermo8133 6 ай бұрын
Models, Star Wars miniatures, one inch square base being 2meters of melee/combat movement. ISDm1, imperial star destroyer mark 1, is 1,600meters or 1mile scale. So 2m divided into 1,600m equals = 800m Each meter is 1sq inch = 800inches divide by 12in/ft = 66ft.66in. Ten or 12 people with, out stretch arms touching fingertips long. Star Trek Borg 3mi Cube will be big, just F-cking .. BIG ! Like a 190ft per side, as a 19story building. .. BIG .. Death Star 1 & 2, ... .. ? ...
@Darth-vade123
@Darth-vade123 5 ай бұрын
It is canon introduced in the Tarkin novel
@mattheweaton9111
@mattheweaton9111 6 ай бұрын
The empire had capital ships for the Outerim as well. Vindicator class heavy cruisers, neutron class bulk cruisers, dreadnaught class heavy cruisers and gladiator class star destroyers worked great.
@CapnWatson
@CapnWatson 6 ай бұрын
I love these videos. Really helps bring the details of the Star Wars universe to life, while also helping us connect some of the lessons of the fiction to the real world.
@violetlight1548
@violetlight1548 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this series, Alan! I've been trying to formulate an outline for the Empire of the Hand's navy for my fanfics, but you brought up some points I had completely overlooked, and that would logically work well with the Hand's philosophy of forming actual alliances with the worlds of Wild Space and the Unknown Regions, as opposed to the Empire proper's more heavy-handed approach. The Gzanti-class' importance is especially relevant. Looks like I have some edits to make to my "Hand Navy" worldbuilding document!
@tba113
@tba113 6 ай бұрын
Getting some Tex Talks Battletech vibes from this analysis. Solid work!
@tarnocdoino3857
@tarnocdoino3857 6 ай бұрын
Deep old school SW fan. Put down all the books after RoTJ and comics. Love the fleet action break down. It paints a reality that the war lords who formed after the emperors death had reasons to do so. And the equipment they needed.
@Darth_Xionn
@Darth_Xionn 6 ай бұрын
It's a shame they ignored the whole Warlord plot line instead of the First Order/Operation Cinder stuff
@Belligerent_Herald
@Belligerent_Herald 6 ай бұрын
Speaking purely on aesthetics the Arquitence is probably one of my favorites in the Star Wars IP. Tied with the Raider corvette. They just look dynamic and aggressive in a way that few other ships pull off.
@casbot71
@casbot71 6 ай бұрын
The Empire could have cheaply replaced the double bridge of the Venator with a ISD looking bridge, if they wanted to simplify differentiate the Republic Navy from the Imperial Navy. And done a bit of a refit to make them more efficient and less crew intensive. And kept them as ISD screening ships.
@captainlink72
@captainlink72 6 ай бұрын
Man, I need ECHenry or Fractal Sponge to do a mock-up of that.
@Eremiyah
@Eremiyah 6 ай бұрын
I would rather see an ISD with that massive hangar bay
@Talon19
@Talon19 6 ай бұрын
ISD ships were very human intensive. For a ship around a mile long, it had a crew over 35,000. That doesn’t even include the stormtrooper legion of over 9,000! Venators had a crew of less than 8,000.
@ForestRaptor
@ForestRaptor 6 ай бұрын
@@Talon19 counting the pilots and the supporting crew? that seems off :#
@Talon19
@Talon19 6 ай бұрын
@@ForestRaptor The Republic didn’t have a standing army or large military, so it used lots of automation.
@sherricraig1300
@sherricraig1300 6 ай бұрын
Just hearing you say Eli Vanto aloud made my day. Man, I wish they would bring him into a show.
@TheAngriestGamer.
@TheAngriestGamer. 5 ай бұрын
"gen x talks" beat off a dead horse reference XD I noticed what you did there GenTech. ;)
@23GreyFox
@23GreyFox 5 ай бұрын
I have a really soft spot for the Vindicator class cruiser. For me it's the perfect 'do it all' for a reasonable price.
@Wintermute909
@Wintermute909 6 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic channel! I find it awesome how much sense can be perceived in a fictional universe that was never designed to have this level of detail......but I gotta admit its a little disquieting when i wonder if everyone is perceiving sense in an irl universe that was never intended to make sense.
@nobodyimportant72
@nobodyimportant72 6 ай бұрын
I recall reading somewhere that the classification of ships you'd normally see in independent actions were Cruisers or Corvettes. Frigates were escorts and battleships ask for escort.
@Quickstein
@Quickstein 6 ай бұрын
12:56 I LOVE MANAGED DEMOCRACY
@williamheath7058
@williamheath7058 6 ай бұрын
Its really annoying when I try to explain why the ISD was not the greatest ship for the empire and people just say it's good for oppressing people so it's good for them
@pretzelbomb6105
@pretzelbomb6105 6 ай бұрын
It’s like using USS New Jersey on an anti-drug patrol. It’ll overpower anything it finds, but it’s poorly suited to the role.
@TheOuterRim_G
@TheOuterRim_G 6 ай бұрын
I like it when you do these videos. Thank you
@inari6785
@inari6785 6 ай бұрын
Gotta love em
@JuliaJuanaAlvarez
@JuliaJuanaAlvarez 6 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, the arquitens class was always one of my favourite ships, much prefer it over an isd. And I love the imperial version but it always bothered me that they got rid of the 4 twin laser canons on the side
@robertwasowski7626
@robertwasowski7626 6 ай бұрын
True isd were more like battleships, fit for the clone wars to fight enemy with overwhrlming numbers like the cis, but for time of peace thr empire was, the light and heavy cruisers and carrier mix would fit perfectly for peacekeeping where the main enemy would be pirates smugglers, slavers and simply other types of criminals, i would advise there would be few "heavy hitting" fleets in case war would happen (like the yuuzhan vong) but the backbone should be light-medium ships that can handle 99.99% of threats criminals could throw at you
@NyxThePuppy
@NyxThePuppy 6 ай бұрын
genuinely have like a 3 isd fleet per grouping of planets then per planet a fleet of 2 aquitiens 1 quasar then however many ganzatizs you need
@craigcottrellii3618
@craigcottrellii3618 Ай бұрын
"Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready." Theodore Roosevelt
@mattheweaton9111
@mattheweaton9111 6 ай бұрын
The Arquitence command cruiser is 320 meters long. We see in a clip u play when it’s next to a quesar there is no way there is more then a 30 or 40 meter gap between these to ships in length
@zacharybyford8200
@zacharybyford8200 6 ай бұрын
The Arquintens is well know as being very inconsistent in size especially when, from what I've heard, the animators for the shows were told to straight up alter the sizes of anything to fit the style of shots they're going for. Bigger if they want a ship to look intimidating, smaller if they want a ship to look pathetic.
@mattheweaton9111
@mattheweaton9111 6 ай бұрын
@@zacharybyford8200it’s still 320 meters. Poor animation or not
@DrMutran
@DrMutran 6 ай бұрын
Why do you suppose we didn’t see more Corvettes from the CIS during the Clone Wars?
@MrThenarsky
@MrThenarsky 6 ай бұрын
I like to do mental exercises and come up with solutions for issues like this. Alan has the great idea of long term transplantation of population and growing your own defense. In the meantime I came up with a solution involving a modernized Gozanti, 2 RZ1's, and a homemade shuttle that I came up with. It could patrol 6 systems at a time with the shuttles operating in pairs non-stop, while the Gozanti with it's 2 RZ1 would patrol a 7th. Each of the 7 groups would operate mostly independently but would periodically make scheduled refueling roundezvous with the Gozanti.
@zyhgar25
@zyhgar25 6 ай бұрын
I mean this also applies to reality. A massive portion of the navy is smaller auxiliary ships. There's a lot of ships with lotta roles to play and star wars doesn't show it at all. Would be nice if those star destroyers had escorts like anti strike craft frigates or corvettes with them.
@TheGoddamnBacon
@TheGoddamnBacon 6 ай бұрын
You mean like the Lancer class frigate?
@SpiritWolf1966
@SpiritWolf1966 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy all of Generation Tech videos
@matthewjay660
@matthewjay660 6 ай бұрын
Alan, I really like Gozantis, Arquitens light cruisers, and Quasar Fire-Class carriers, these ships, (combined in a fleet together), are an economic and perfect way to project Imperial power and stay within budget. With 1 Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser-Class ship as flagship would be perfect. "My Emperor: right or wrong!" 💪🏻✊🏻👊🏻
@casbot71
@casbot71 6 ай бұрын
The post Refermation Republic should have mass produced medium cruisers for planetary defence fleets, to take advantage of economies of scale. Planetary fleets can buy them at a subsidised cost or they can be assigned, or a mixture of both systems - with careful bookkeeping to prevent them being onsold to pirates ect. That would enable a vast amount of practical mid sized military ships to be available to patrol the regions outside the Core. In effect they become like police cars bought by departments from a manufacturer with a standardised design. It is definitely a lot cheaper and more practical than every police department having to commission their own squad car designs. Except they are also the local Coast Guard. And in times of war they can be requisitioned to join as a form of GAR. But in day to day operations they are the patrol fleet of a inhabited system, owned and operated by that systems government. A from the ground up Galactic Navy, instead of top down. Like if the Galaxy Fleet all bought from the same lot with a package deal.
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 6 ай бұрын
The majority of a spaceship's costs aren't in the initial procurement, they are in maintenance and supply. So systems just bought whatever they could afford to maintain and whatever had available parts. Creating artificial monopolies through government spending is a bad idea.
@aliastheabnormal
@aliastheabnormal 6 ай бұрын
Also after a hundred year war against evil space wizards that nearly ended civilization and was only stopped by one of said evil wizards killing the rest and going into hiding. Well, the Republic was tired of war.
@InvictusByz
@InvictusByz 6 ай бұрын
What about when one of those planetary militias turns Separatist? They'd begin the conflict with an intimate understanding of the GAR's available arsenal and the ability to capture and use GAR assets. Plus when the various militias are called up to serve, there's a risk of major political friction regarding command structures, for example between systems that have paid for their own assets but use them poorly and systems whose defense is heavily subsidized but they use their forces extremely well. There's definitely merit to the idea, but its a trade off. That said, its definitely better than having no standing army, and no regional defense support. Personally, I see Star Citizen's system of Militia and Standing Navy to be a bit more elegant. You use the same economies of scale, but regional militias aren't buying the *exact* same ship, they're buying Peacekeeper and Civilian variants of the same hull, usually just missing a few weapon hardpoints or military exclusive systems, and both forces are meant to exist in tandem, focusing on different priorities that their variant classes each cater towards.
@casbot71
@casbot71 4 ай бұрын
*Interesting points in the replies.* As for the ship running cost and the risk of systems going rogue, that's where a standardised design is helpful. _Logistics._ The Core Republic will be supplying spares and munitions to all the PDFs _at a low cost_ due to economies of scale and with a large standing inventory to meet sudden demand. As well any emergency shortages can be dealt with by cannibalising a damaged ship for needed spare parts. That's an advantage of having a common standard design. In order to make supply lanes shorter, common spares can be built at hubs strategically placed on major hyperspace lanes in "reliable" highly developed systems. Also, systems that aren't up to scratch can get trainers and so on sent to them to help get them into shape. [And keep an eye on them.] As for systems going rogue, how are they going to get their spares and replacement ships? They would have to set up their own production lines, which would take time. And probably be noticed. It is a useful political safeguard as it sets up a dependency on the Republics manufacturing base and its shipyards. Now, if a system is under threat or just needs strengthening, to deal with a situation, the GAR can send a task force that can use local facilities due to interoperability. The GAR can keep a few rapid reaction task groups on standby to deal with sudden crises. They can even be modified with the fastest _reliable_ hyperdrives available (no millennium falcon overclocking). As well as a larger number of the standard spec ships that just keep the Core systems safe. That is an advantage the central Republic can maintain. They can have some better, more expensive versions of the standard design, a bit like how there is an export version and a domestic version of some US military gear (particularly Fighters). As for the core fleet, the GAR can have some larger ships that they keep for themselves as heavy hitters for a war, not a patrol ship. So only the Core Fleet has Star Destroyers, but the other systems can get frigates, corvettes, snubfighters, etc. And what Outer Rim system could afford the cost and upkeep of a few Star Destroyers? It still gives the Core GAR a edge, and gives the client States a far better PDF than they would otherwise be able to get going it alone. And if they are in serious trouble, they can request reinforcements fast. Reinforcements that can slot right in with their own fleets. If it's a major threat, then a GAR battlefleet with, for example, a few Star Destroyers and big carriers with class 1 hyperdrives, along with a screening fleet, ready to overkill the threat. Large displays of power can resolve issues before they grow out of control. Think of it like a US Navy carrier group, if one of those is parked off your coastline, it is a strong message. Especially if it's doing joint patrols with that neighbour of yours you've been playing brinkmanship with. Now I can see one issue is that some species won't be able to use a standard ship designed for humans. But they can have modified versions made for them that are still going to be cheaper and more refined than anything they could produce or acquire by themself. If they're smaller than humans, that's a simple modification. Their ships might even have better performance due to less space and mass having to be dedicated to crew. Now, species that are bigger may have a few issues. A snubfighter for Wookies or Besalisk is going to have lower performance. They could, however, subcontract smaller species to be snubfighter pilots. As a safety measure, have a mix of human, T'wilek, and other common standard size species pilots, so they aren't dependent on one aligned group to be their fighter pilots. And their larger ships can still be crewed by their own species, a Wookie crewed gunship is still formidable. With the massive economy and manufacturing available to the GAR, they could have a bunch of standard models available for "Client States" and members, not just one space superiority snubfighter, one patrol frigate ect. And off the shelf versions for a variety of species sizes. But no systems or even group of systems could defeat a Sector fleet from the Core Worlds. But they could eliminate any pirate fleet that is causing trouble.
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 4 ай бұрын
@@casbot71 The overall problem with this paradigm is that private enterprises are better motivated to innovate and meet the actual evolving demands of their clients than large government institutions, and when you have a system where there are large government enterprises producing cheap standard designs leveraging the economy of scale, as well as smaller private enterprises that offer ships more tailored to specific needs or that are modified and upgraded more frequently because it is easier to retool a smaller factory with its specific supply chain to produce a newer model than it is to retool a big number of large factories spread across the entire Galaxy that each have their own supply chains, you get the same picture that already exists in Star Wars. Planetary defense fleets that consist mostly of several widespread and available designs, plus some ships that are produced locally that are more tailored to the environment and needs of that specific sector.
@Orca4135
@Orca4135 6 ай бұрын
The amount of credits spent on the two death stars could fund 10,000,000 Gozanti class cruisers. If the empire had taken those credits and built lots of the cruisers in this video, and more tie fighters, maybe some tie defenders, and a few ISDs they could’ve had so much more military power than they did with the death stars. Or yk, they could’ve invested it in the economy, and infrastructure and actually helped the people… but they’re the empire so lots of gozantis is probably the best we could’ve hoped for
@davidponseigo8811
@davidponseigo8811 6 ай бұрын
If I was a pirate in the Star Wars universe I would want three Gozanti class cruisers with the four TIE Fighters each and possibly a Arquiten Cruiser as a home base. You could break them up into smaller strike groups to go after multiple targets or as one group to hit larger targets.
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 6 ай бұрын
In a galaxy with such expansive wealth and unimaginable population, it is actually quite possible to have a significant military presence on every inhabited planet and moon. It just would have to be a practical presence. (Like a small orbital garrison with two or three platoons of foot soldiers, a squadron of well-rounded and tough fighter craft, a Gozanti-class cruiser, and a bunch of probe droids keeping an eye on things).
@tbrown317
@tbrown317 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great insights! May the LORD be with you! 🙏🏾💥
@billf.2960
@billf.2960 3 ай бұрын
Watching aldran blow up still gets to me.. "Millions of people cried out and all of sudden at once were silent.. " see now that is starwars writing..
@Ttommy301
@Ttommy301 6 ай бұрын
Saw the video title and thought was gonna be about logistics but still very nice
@JAF30
@JAF30 6 ай бұрын
Mobile and multipurpose can often times beat slow and heavily armored and armed, simply because it takes so long to get the bigger thing to the problem area. Logistics can be a bitch.
@mostafahelmy1311
@mostafahelmy1311 6 ай бұрын
I really like your channel thank you for making this videos.
@jlokison
@jlokison 6 ай бұрын
If you play the Star Wars Armada table top miniature game A class 546 Command Cruiser 2 Arquitens Light Cruiser 1 Quasarfire cruiser carrier With plenty of fighter squadrons Makes a very versatile force that can take on light raiding groups by Rebels, if commanded competently.
@DerekPetersonLives
@DerekPetersonLives 6 ай бұрын
I'm surprised I'm not seeing anyone else pointing it out, but it seems audio quality has been better in the past. I hope there was just a trouble during recording. I know you always strive for the best.
@fredwupkensoppel8949
@fredwupkensoppel8949 6 ай бұрын
4:59 That scene doesn't ring a bell; which show is it from?
@mattheweaton9111
@mattheweaton9111 6 ай бұрын
Lastly the average Outerim would population if u look at the essential atlas, is anywhere from a few million which is actually pretty rare if u actually google all the planets in the outer rim. Plenty named ones have populations in the tens or hundreds of millions.. and quite a few even have billions or the rarer tens of billions.
@CrusadingJello
@CrusadingJello 11 сағат бұрын
I wonder if there was ever a fleet that was ONLY the gazanti-class cruisers, albeit in different variants. I mean, take five of them, give three of them some modifications to include a few turb-lasers, and modify the last two to have four or six tie-fighters (interceptors or standard variants), and you get a decent patrol fleet for a few systems! (Edit: The answer later in the video was "yes, that was a thing." and "Yes, it was pretty effective".
@Prankembrother
@Prankembrother 6 ай бұрын
If the Gozanti was a bit longer, had more engines or faster engines, and could carry 8 tie fighters and 2 bombers, it would be the backbone of my fleet.
@brooksroth345
@brooksroth345 6 ай бұрын
This old saying applies here. If all you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
@isaackim7675
@isaackim7675 6 ай бұрын
You should do a video about the Imperial Cargo ships used during the events of the Bad Batch and Rebels
@jimgillespie9739
@jimgillespie9739 6 ай бұрын
The one ship the Empire seemed to need but you so rarely see was the Interdictor. The Alliances tactic was Hit and Fade (the tactic of assymetricall warfare.) Interdictor comes in and you need to take it out before you can fade. Yes they are weaker so need more protection, but they are giving time for the ISD to do its thing, and that's not something you want to be on recieving end of. (I say ISD as its the poster child, the smaller ships mentioned in this video work better, but again need time that the Alliance wont give.)
@Darth_Xionn
@Darth_Xionn 6 ай бұрын
Interdictors are so strange, you'd think they'd be used all the time, but they're used so rarely
@UncleFester84
@UncleFester84 6 ай бұрын
Is it weird that i really like the imperial Gozanti? I can definitely see an adventurers party make a base out of one.
@hardcorehead6284
@hardcorehead6284 6 ай бұрын
The imperial gozanti is my favorite ship
@KyloStimpy
@KyloStimpy 6 ай бұрын
this is why i'd love to see an updated version of Star Wars: Rebellion with more ship options available to use
@Ryecrash617
@Ryecrash617 6 ай бұрын
I'd love to run a small shipping company with a trio of Gonzanti class cruisers.
@zacharysheetz3701
@zacharysheetz3701 6 ай бұрын
Rome had a great idea for incorporating conquered territory. When their soldiers retired after 10 or more years of duty, they were given land in a conquered place. Many soldiers, even a whole legion, would retire together; and settle, with their families. Basically creating a new Roman town. The government was able to: pay their soldiers and put them to peacetime work, with the funds they'd use for creating a new colony. Furthermore, you'd have a colony populated by trained soldiers. Who'd defend their new home at no extra cost to the state. Which would otherwise have needed to afford a garrison. Plus, you be able to recruit capable soldiers from these towns. New territory secured and developed while ensuring old soldiers don't become bandits or help a rival overthrow you.
@TheDownrankTrain
@TheDownrankTrain 6 ай бұрын
The Gladiator class was the smaller, more reasonably priced Star Destroyer that was relegated to Outer Rim patrol duty. Personally I think the Gladiator would have made a fantastic baseline ship for the Empire, it is one of their most well-balanced designs.
@bjturon
@bjturon 6 ай бұрын
I would like to see all three "cruisers" of the Imperial "Gunboat" Navy in service of the New Republic, the Light Cruiser was great in Mando, and the ideal "big flagship" for a small power like Mandolore.
@F14foreverF14
@F14foreverF14 6 ай бұрын
I'd love a Gozanti class cruiser kitted with 2 TIE Fighters and 2 AT-ST Walkers.
@maxpower3990
@maxpower3990 6 ай бұрын
The Imperial Navy was either designed to refight the Clone War but do it better or, in Legends, to prepare to fight the Yuzang Vong. The problem was that the Navy was mismatched for the tasks it was assigned.
@akstormtrooper508
@akstormtrooper508 3 ай бұрын
Leave your "Force Superiority" back in the Core with Tarkin. Out in the Rim? Force Escorts and good will shall carry you far.
@brightlord-ov7cm
@brightlord-ov7cm 6 ай бұрын
*Italian voice* Gozanti🤌🤌🤌 ze stronga arma of ze empire! Edit: now if they had kept the acclamator and upgraded it as much as they did with the arquettins(sp?) And the gozanti they wouldn't have much need for the gigantic death doritos.
@pcheintz7264
@pcheintz7264 29 күн бұрын
Hmmm... were I looking to field a space navy in star wars and I was limited to smaller sized ships for ability to mass produce fast and cheap... I would field the following types s a balanced fleet in task force groups: 900m+ (Destroyer) - Imperial Victory class (in this case, use as a sector command ship, only one per task force) 650m to 900m (Heavy Cruiser) - Imperial Gladiator class (if thought could make it make sense, would replace possibly with a Harrower Dreadnought) 400m to 650m (Cruiser) - Imperial Vindicator class - Imperial Immobilizer class 200m to 400m (Frigate) - Imperial Vigil class - Imperial Escort class (fan design by JBJHJM) 100m to 200m (Corvette) - Imperial Customs class (Militarized) - Imperial Raider II class Under 100m (Fighters/Gun Ships) - Imperial Intersector class - Imperial Missile Boat mk I class (not the fan refit for a mod, the original variant from the game) - Imperial Fighter (Fan design by Encho EnchevPro) (Miscellaneous smaller units) - Imperial Kappa class Shuttle (I prefer the smaller profile older design) - Imperial Troop Transport class LAAVi (a fan design by RoadWarrierZ44) - Imperial Sabre class Tank - Imperial Troop class Troop Transport - Imperial Korrealis KL-9Z-SE class Speeder Car - Imperial 614-AvA class Speeder Bike - SnowSpeeder
@nightwolf2378
@nightwolf2378 6 ай бұрын
So, out of curiosity, which of these would be great boarding vessels? Id say the Gazantte due too how cheap it is but would a Boarding Vessel configuration of the arquentins be good too?
@CosmicAggressor
@CosmicAggressor 6 ай бұрын
You know something I ocasionally think of in starwars terms is what the empire should have been using to hunt down rebels instead squardrons of 3 or 4 stardestroyers, and what that comes down to is something like a squadron of 1 or 2 star destroyers as command ships with teeth, then at least 2 fully loaded venators for fighters support and bombing runs, finally an interdictor cruiser or 2, and at least 2 arquintens cruisers for every one of those larger ships to deal with the massive investment the rebels have in strike fighters. That way you can have a tight little squadron that can go around dealing with potentially very large rebel groups left right and center instead of sending inumerable amounts of resources in the form of star destroyers and death stars with 0 point defence that just get poped by a garbage scow full of explosives ramming the bridge. Edit. I suppose I can ammend that fleet mix to replace a quarter of those arquintens cruisers with about 20-30 gizanti cruisers, half of which would be scouts equipped with tie defenders and the other half would be ground support equipped with AT-TEs for that matter I would want all my tie fighters to be defender or at least intereceptor class rather than the standard styrofoam block class.
@Ire_Shire
@Ire_Shire 6 ай бұрын
The Empire's gear in Rebels seems a lot smarter than in the films.
@whyjnot420
@whyjnot420 6 ай бұрын
I can't say I even really like Star Wars anymore. That isn't to say I don't think fondly about some of it (original trilogy, kotor 1-2, republic commando, to name some). But I don't care about the last 15 years or so worth of stuff and have no desire to revisit anything from the franchise at all. Yet for some reason I still sit here watching SW videos from this guy alone. (well, if sacred cow shipyards does a video on SW stuff, i'll watch that too, but he talks about a lot more than just SW)
@Idkidkidk716
@Idkidkidk716 6 ай бұрын
Yup this is what thrawn kept talking about but nobody listened.
@jalenmcdermaid1186
@jalenmcdermaid1186 6 ай бұрын
I wish bro would do videos on the victory class star destroyers
@johncantabene8799
@johncantabene8799 6 ай бұрын
I've been a follower of GenerationTech for quite a while. Alan has a very inviting personality. Not to mention, he knows his sh@t when it comes to Star Wars. This is my very 1st post. It's more like a question. Some would say a very stupid question. What's the difference between Canon and Legends?? Thank you in advance for not making fun of me.
@kazoosc
@kazoosc Ай бұрын
I always liked the Gozanti Cruiser better than the 'Star Destroyer' line
@josephmontanaro2350
@josephmontanaro2350 6 ай бұрын
The quasar is a nice carrier but ill be honest i feel like the tonfulk is more efficent space wise
@johnray1956
@johnray1956 6 ай бұрын
Generation Tech: Smaller ships does show a thought process in writting. Smaller ships is going to be faster from a technological point of view. The Rebel Alliance being able to do surgical strikes, and speed is immportant. Why bring an entire armada when a couple C4 devices, completes the mission. The empire proved too much reliance on larger ships, with severe weak points. one thing i dislike is blastable bits on the outerhull. I have a really good idea, lets place Ammo, and plasma storage containers over our armor. The Starwars Rebels is lucky, i am not doing the planning for the Imperial war machine. Hint: The DeathStar would not have majical vents. I would have little baseball sized projectiles, Silent but once going off, your fighters is not coming back.
@TheMichaelStott
@TheMichaelStott 6 ай бұрын
Me: "Lord it's flog, to flog a dead horse or flogging a dead horse" Allen: "I find your lack of humour disturbing"
@tommiegunn2043
@tommiegunn2043 Ай бұрын
SSD for the WIN..... just saying 😉
@michaelsargeant5923
@michaelsargeant5923 6 ай бұрын
U da man and all the very best for the team . Love your constant. From your friends across the pond
@GhostShotYaDead
@GhostShotYaDead 6 ай бұрын
Perfect Content
@travismoore7849
@travismoore7849 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if the empire every tried magnetically sealing the tie fighter like the trash compactors were.
@TimChuma
@TimChuma 6 ай бұрын
Not always, in Australia the mining billionaires get given a sweet deal from the government who are afraid of them.
@thesharpercoder
@thesharpercoder 6 ай бұрын
Hello, friends. I watched the entire video. I am Generation Tech.
@Talon19
@Talon19 6 ай бұрын
Amateurs talk tactics, Professionals talk strategy, Masters talk logistics.
@tremontefr5617
@tremontefr5617 6 ай бұрын
Love this video
@ThatSlowTypingGuy
@ThatSlowTypingGuy 6 ай бұрын
I'd argue the Carrack Cruiser was the real workhorse.
@baohoang4966
@baohoang4966 6 ай бұрын
3:26 not "calls local for help", it's "calls TRAITORS for help"!!! And not "Create peace" it's "Maintain control"!!!
@edwardrice6744
@edwardrice6744 6 ай бұрын
Caldwell class too
@solastro5595
@solastro5595 6 ай бұрын
Rip the victory class.
@josiahb2355
@josiahb2355 6 ай бұрын
No way he said “there’s really just one way to bear off a dead horse” and then just moved on
@seifu8318
@seifu8318 6 ай бұрын
if only Palpatine saw more than a "symbol" to the venators the rebels would have a harder time to deal with the empire. but ofcourse Palps wants big laser and big trigualar ships instead of investing more on starfighters, frigates and cruisers
@iangibson2811
@iangibson2811 6 ай бұрын
What about the Carrack class??
@tarkov_6
@tarkov_6 6 ай бұрын
You would think they would keep some acclimators in the core regions
@amellie2
@amellie2 6 ай бұрын
is it just me or is the audio a lot more prominent on the left ear side?
@mattheweaton9111
@mattheweaton9111 6 ай бұрын
There were plenty of Outerim worlds loyal to the empire. And the ones that weren’t were usually suppressed fairly easily cause many didn’t have extremely militarized worlds. A few months of a complain and the war on that would was pretty much over. Just look at mocala. It took like 1 day for the empire to conquer It and it had a huge fleet on it.
@theskullboy8700
@theskullboy8700 6 ай бұрын
I will never use a star destroyer unless it’s the venator
@treisenadams9036
@treisenadams9036 6 ай бұрын
1v1 just the ships would go to the ISD. If each one wielded its full complement of available weapons and craft then the ISD wouldn't even land a shot on the Venator. V-wings would screen out the TIEs and then the ISD gets hit with multiple bombing runs.
@theskullboy8700
@theskullboy8700 6 ай бұрын
@@treisenadams9036 That there also the fact that most fighter that are hyperdrive equip were even considering taking off from the hangars. Then it’s just one sided
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 6 ай бұрын
Dunno if an armada of ships like Gazantis would be BETTER or worse then a bunch of classic SDs? Guess depends on how modular, reliable an being able to equip, maintain an properly staff them
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 6 ай бұрын
Can you guys do a video on the parallels between Star Wars and Hinduism?
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