Genesis Cinema Show and Afterglow Birmingham 22/9/2021

The Last Domino? Tour. Utilita Arena Birmingham Final night.

[@riddles1137]

I guess this is the perfect example of the ‘Circle of Life’. This band has been part of my life for the past 46 years. I’m crying watching this, they’ll still be playing it in a hundred years if we’re still around 🥰🥰

[@herrrubezahl5554]

I agree! I discovered Genesis in 1991 (when I was 16 years old) and this band has been part of my whole adult life. I watched the whole concert in Birmingham yesterday and cried all the way through it.

[@cjguy7111]

Been a fan since i was 8...42 years later still a fan...and they sound great...but we have to accept this is the last time we will see or hear this...sad but inevitable...old father time has caught up with phil 😪

[@ralphnewman9704]

Never missed a tour from 1976 on...their 1st show in the US was Brandeis univ. In Boston...and maybe their last will also be in boston in December.. fitting.

[@nickfrancis3176]

I so agree. Spent last night crying happily, if that makes sense? Selling England supported me when my dad died in 1973 and it still does. Phil’s not dead yet by a long way.

[@delby66]

I loved this band so much. To see Phil's son play the drums and to watch Phil looking at his son it was very emotional for me. I started to cry, especially when they did Firth of Fifth.Phil must be so proud .

[@ulfisaksson299]

fantastic drumming ! a fantastic band ,i have listening to them since 1974.

[@ddfitts23]

Wow, has anyone commented on how Phil looks so much like the "old man" that Gabriel used to dress up as in the early days' live Musical Box performances? Really quite eerie...

[@geoffsmith4614]

Same thought. I almost expected him to start romancing the mic stand. As one does.

[@allanday2230]

i was at last nite leeds concert.. the emotion i felt when they started the first song was so deep it brought tears to my eyes

[@gordontaylor4184]

It's very sad to see Phil in this way. It is much harder to sing whilst sitting down unless you can sit on a stool and hold yourself upright. He's doing a good job though and, whether you like Genesis or not, "Afterglow" is one of the greatest songs ever written.

[@marcusevans8886]

Tears in my eyes Young Collins is outstanding Time you are a Cxxt😢

[@stevedrums1675]

Nic was improvising the 'fill' (haha. I know) at 1:44 and you can see Phil smile in recognition of him comfortable enough to take the chance. the transition to 'Afterglow' was much tighter than opening night. Just little things I noticed. I'm also finding it most moving Phil air-drumming along with his son - knowing that's as close as he'll get to be to playing drums with him.

[@rb1414]

I can't imagine how that must feel to Phil. At once glowing with pride and at the same time totally, utterly frustrated and helpless. Nick was utterly brilliant throughout.

[@stevedrums1675]

@@rb1414I could nit-pick as a drummer, but he's much better than I expected.

[@johnr6940]

Like Phil said… it’s not because of who his father is, it’s because (his son Nic) is good enough!!! It was a great concert.

[@44TJG]

Bloody hell! A million THANK YOU’s for posting this. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🎶👌🏻

[@g.b.4547]

...in den letzten fast 50 Jahren gab es nichts besseres für mich als diesen monumentalen phantastischen Sound !

[@normturner4849]

The man is to be commended for giving it his all. I bet he misses getting up & drumming alongside the session drummer in the old days before returning to the centre vocal spot. Lighting is incredible as usual for Genesis. Pink Floyd, U2 & these guys were always at the cutting edge for lighting displays to enhance the music bc they understood the link between audio & visual, as does their current lighting programmer & designer. If that’s the one person, how incredibly talented he/she is! If that’s the operator as well? Oh migosh!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😃

[@zilspeed]

Drum chair successfully handed over. Nothing to be sad about here. None of us are here forever and the young guy is nailing it.

[@gourdinpablo]

Gracias!!!! llorando sin consuelo con el mejor tema de amor de la historia del rock!!! Gracias!!! GENESIS TODO LO QUE SOY!!!!! TODA MI VIDA......GENESIS

[@davidbaker8483]

Oh shit. Afterglow seems so much more meaningful than it did 40+ years ago

[@frontporchanarchast]

It was my favorite even at 14 which was 35 years ago. This. Song. Hits. Hard.

[@user-tb2wz1tr8y]

Gabriel can still sing strongly, as far as I know. Banks, Rutherford and young Collins can still sound the same as it was. And Hackett? Brilliant. Why not try a run with that group? People have begged for decades for a Gabriel, Hackett reunion with Genesis. Why not? Absolutely love Phil, but this will be it for him. His son can bring it back to how it was with Phil behind the kit in the early days. Phil certainly could make spot appearances for certain songs, but he speaks of this being it and he simply needs to care for himself, obviously.

[@jorgeescobar5625]

Tengo momentos de alegria y otros de tristeza mientras escucho este concierto. Me impresiona mucho ver a Phil hacer ese gran esfuerzo. Preferiria recordarlo en sus mejores momentos pero tambien celebro su fuerza de voluntad.

[@killianlpc]

Even though Phil's voice sounds strained due to his physical condition, he still does a good job here. The music still sounds awesome even though I found some of the transitions slightly disjointed. However, it just seems so strange not seeing Chester on the drums, and what made Afterglow live so special was the pure power of the crescendo, and power chord change at the end, with the duel drummers bringing the song to a close. Still great to hear it live once again. BTW Steve Hackett's live version touring now on The Seconds Out Tour is equally awesome.

[@paulthompson6284]

Yeah it went from "The Cinema Show" to the last few bars of "...In That Quiet Earth" then "Afterglow" which I thought: "Hmm... now THAT'S different... 🤔😎👍"

[@fletchsteve]

Yes I agree, Saw SH in Stoke a few weeks ago. Brilliant.

[@drbobhatfield]

I'm sticking with Hackett these days -- GREAT shows

[@killianlpc]

@@fletchsteve I think the difference is Steve really is so still into the Genesis music up to 77 he is is still so proud of it. Even though he has played Afterglow probably 1000 times you can see him close his eyes at end of it still feeling the melody and every note. I feel the other three just don't seem as interested in the really old stuff to perform live just seem to chop it into mixed medleys etc. But again Phils condition makes it impossible for him to now play that stuff. Still wish them all well.

[@almaguapa-sailboatliveaboa440]

Nic Collins just hammered in a breeze Cinema Show! Fantastic!

[@muziekengeluid]

Thank you so much for recording this. I ain't gonna visit the show so I can watch it from your phone video 👍

[@johnsoper5675]

Whether they are 20 years old or 70 years old, they are one of the best if not the best jamming bands anywhere.

[@mariacarranza34]

Que orgullo poder compartir escenario con su hijo! Baterista como él. La vida sigue. Pero esos momentos son únicos! Grande génesis!!! 👍

[@henrysummerhill7271]

Phil Collins is a shadow of the performer he used to be It is time for him to call it a day his voice has gone and it is not coming back

[@polishrocker93]

No

[@lucamura8362]

Sorry guys i'm literally crying. Thanks for this video

[@rb1414]

Hah. I wasn't crying at all. Just had something in my eye!

[@prook2001]

I’m crying too for all the poor people who paid to hear Phil sing so out of tune. Goodbye Genesis legacy.

[@lucamura8362]

@@prook2001 i don't mind. If I were you I would mind how small you are compared to Genesis and Phil immensity. From my side respect for. this band and these men, true icons in music history.

[@prook2001]

@@lucamura8362 good job you’re not me then. Because I don’t really care how big they are. I only care that Phil’s voice is no good and he can’t play the drums anymore. They’ve recruited Nic to play the drums. They should have recruited someone who could hit the required notes to sing and sat Phil on a chair for all the dewey eyed sycophants to look at and remember when he was worth paying to go and see. It’s ok, I understand, some people can’t handle the truth or are tone deaf. Did you think his performance was up to the standard you would expect from him?

[@lucamura8362]

@@prook2001 again i don't care. They are Genesis ome if the greatest band in music history. I grew up with them. I started fallin in love with prog thanks to them. They have written some of the most iconic, complex and beautiful compositions ever written. And again all my respect and gratefulness to them.

[@robertsmyth1313]

Genius music from Genesis my favourite combo of any of their 2 songs especially live made me cry when I saw this at Leeds Arena September 2021

[@kevinrombouts3027]

Wonderful stuff. Cinema Show is one of the greatest songs ever recorded.

[@carlolai9912]

Una cosa è certa..ai Genesis non manca un Batterista..Great Nik.Collins🙏🙋

[@wolfebeardsnarl5691]

A cautionary tale to young drummers. Proper Posture at the kit is so important.

[@jorgearanda8129]

Nic Collins on Cinema Show is the real thing!! Jesus!!!

[@ericbarrial64]

Poor phil It s time for them to stop I sa y that wish tears in m'y eyes because i ve loved genesis for 45 years now

[@donnietobasco9791]

Switch to 1.25 play-speed for Afterglow. Improves the lagging tempo and sounds just like the Three Sides Live version!!

[@dustinparker9456]

It’s sad to me to see Phil air drum parts that normally he would play live. In his heart I know it kills him not being able to play.

[@HughMcQ]

Nik does an awesome job here.

[@nickfrancis3176]

Now I’ve lost everything, I give to you my soul.

[@lostplacesandmore1982]

It's so emotional and sad!

[@edwardcarloni6356]

Hang in there Phil, I know what you are going through. My legs don't work so well these days either. It's been years since I played my drums. At least my arms still work and I still beat the hell out of my snare. Fan from day one. Seconds Out is the Best Live Album Ever. Thanks

[@CairnTerrier69]

At first I feel bad for Phil....but seeing him up there engrossed as his son shakes the Earth to the core on the drums.....all is ok!!!

[@Ric653]

El pibe Collins, una bestia.

[@gfig515]

Under the same light, it is astonishing how Phil Collins resembles Peter Gabriel's old man mask in the Musical Box live concerts. Am I the only one to notice this?

[@kenmusicman7061]

Beautiful!!!🎉

[@ernestozappa4610]

I love Génesis ❤️

[@matreset]

Poor Phil. I feel sad for him

[@germanmorales6532]

thanks for sharing

[@tiedupsmurf]

From 02:00 his dad did that bit slightly more funkier

[@besanzaz]

Everything comes to an end.

[@Finatic13]

Papa looks proud. Im looking forward to Columbus.

[@mab716]

😭😭😭😭😭😭Reminds me of the 70's & my bro💚

[@cricri52140]

💞

[@arrivingelsewhere1200]

The antithesis of this is Rush - I don't have to explain. Credit to Nic for doing a grand job though.

[@egyptology22]

Go Phil

[@dustinparker9456]

Also those robotic cameras are creepy.

[@rb1414]

Creepy? Maybe so. They were certainly very very annoying.

[@Sebastian-lo3hn]

Very sad, I am not sure if I want to see PC sing to his last breath.....

[@eleonoradini2371]

Great drummer. I would like to see him playing in a different context, maybe (no offense, I love Genesis) with younger musicians

[@Lance37a]

Yea he's sort of doing the same thing Wolfgang Van Halen was doing.

[@william_mazza]

Search "Better strangers"

[@prook2001]

@@Lance37a did Wolfgang take his dad’s place in Van Halen?

[@selenesimonson9930]

@@prook2001 he was the bass player in Van Halen starting in 2006.

[@selenesimonson9930]

He has his own band Better Strangers

[@nickfrancis3176]

I give to you my love.

[@renatonehring7648]

W O W

[@humbertomontoya2732]

Phil Collins forever

[@dirkkeersmaekers4343]

Singing sitting is that good for your voice?

[@paitalian2626]

Highlighted...this has nothing to do with what goes on behind the scenes. My point is that this is supposed to be a "performance.." Who believes that a crippled man sitting in a chair struggling to sing is a positive thing in any sense. If those of us who truly love Genesis don't think what we are seeing is sad in any sense of the word...then you are doing it for purely selfish reasons. If you had compassion for Phil and cared about the legacy of the band...do you like seeing this. No different than a boxer past his prime getting pummeled because he thinks he still has it when others around him can't say ...enough Yes you applaud the effort...but do you want to see that? No one feels worse for what has happened to Phil Collins than me.. But.. Not unlike any other profession...when it comes a time when you can no longer do your job...it's time to call it a career and move on. There is nothing about these performances that doesn't speak to greed in various forms...money for the band and selfishness of people (fans) always wanting more when there's no more to give. I have compassion for Phil and don't put my selfishness of wanting more from him at his expense of being embarrassed on a world stage.

[@bellsystem_1877]

omggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@josephferraro6149]

So very Sad...

[@paitalian2626]

I'm not going to be as kind as other people. I loved Genesis and Phil Collins and they WERE great. Time has passed and they haven't been able to sustain like some other bands. People want to keep the memories, I get that...then play their records. This is a travesty...to literally see a group that charges top dollar like their heyday... AND...literally put a crippled man in a chair who can no longer sing and call it a show!!! It's a show...a freakshow...the sad remains of a great band ravaged by time. What have we come to where we find this acceptable? If they were healthy and physically able to "perform"...age wouldn't matter. But if we're now letting bands throw out something like this and we let it happen...there is something seriously wrong. Yes we cherish the memories...that's why we have albums DVD'S and you tube. All things must end...and Genesis and Phil Collins are a perfect example.

[@bert7867]

Keep y'r memories. That's oké. And let the audience have there memories with this concert. I'm sure they loved it. So let it be.

[@halwhitlock3431]

With all due respect, none of us have a clue what is going on behind the scenes. Who knows, this may be Mr. Collins final wish, to go on stage with his band and his son. Sometimes, it’s NOT about the audience…it’s about the human beings that make up the band…and they invite us along for the ride. If you are disturbed by the images, then don’t accept the invitation.

[@polishrocker93]

I find it inspiring, then carrying on Against All Odds. At least real fans appreciate what they are doing.

[@tonynew39]

When did your time end, when will it end and how will you know that it is your time to.... End?

[@TheJimohio]

Paid more than $700 for two tickets. This is not that good. Sorry. I prefer to remember the band in their prime.

[@polishrocker93]

I find it inspiring, then carrying on Against All Odds. At least real fans appreciate what they are doing.

[@franzfranz40]

perchè te sei te e tutti gli altri.....

[@AzimuthTao]

I think many people are of the mind that we should give Phil Collins credit for toughing it out and performing despite his ailments but I think it's just another indication of his ego once again getting in the way of quality. If an NFL quarterback or any professional for that matter is no longer able to reach the level needed to complete the task at hand with competence, they are sidelined or remove themselves. Collins needs to gracefully step away from the stage.

[@normturner4849]

Dude, that’s cold. You’d be in the absolute minority. There’s a world of difference between sport and the arts. Fans that actually pay to see a long time band and have bought the records/cassettes & CDs don’t mind bc this is the last tour they will do. Why would you sideline a key player when the fans want to see him? We love him to be there & it’s through that live that allows us to overlook the vocal failings. Genesis has also been about the cutting edge production since the 80s when they first brought Vari*Lites to various countries & left key amounts of the units to start many lighting companies to reduce equipment touring costs for smaller bands. You obviously have no clue about what it means to understand a musical group. Would many ppl see Rolling Stones without Mick? That’s not even a good comparison but it illustrates my point. Moronic...🙄

[@AzimuthTao]

@@normturner4849 You obviously missed the point, which is...if you can't perform up to or even close to the standards of "play" then you shouldn't be doing it.

[@nathanharris-composer7362]

@@normturner4849 Actually Rafael has a point. It is not a moronic point. And judging by the comments on these videos, he may not be in a minority at all. I really do understand your own point also which is valid too. I get it totally that longterm fans want to see their beloved singer again and will fully accept his failings as an older unfortunately unwell man. I actually sympathise with that. You're correct regarding the Stones, but Jagger still can perform to a reasonable level (amazing for his age of course). But I do think Collins performance is unacceptable on a purely musical level if we then disregard being a fan. It was the same with the once wonderful opera star Jose Carreras or Sinatra who still had audiences when their voices declined. But fact is it did not sound good. I can see both arguments, but I agree more with Rafael.

[@nathanharris-composer7362]

I agree with you as you can see from my comment to Norm.

[@polishrocker93]

I find it inspiring, then carrying on Against All Odds. At least real fans appreciate what they are doing.

[@rogerionovais3586]

You know, Genesis is my prefered band but is so embarassing to see and hear Phil that way, the guy can barely reach some notes. I would rather to stay with my memories, I was at Knebworth for a concert in 92. But I understand this is a final concert. Be well Phil, greetings from Brazil.

[@prook2001]

He barely reach any note. I’ll stick with my memories of them.

[@arfshesaid4325]

@@prook2001 be interesting to see if he can sustain anything beyond a quarter note as this tour continues, his son offers zilch in the way of creativity thru all that 7 shit too.......but my god Phil still has it and Nic is just nailing it haha, that seems to be the chant as fools pay 1500 bucks to have a decent seat, what a joke.

[@souldreamer9056]

Not only do they repeat the same songs from the last 5 tours, but they even play the exact same arrangements. It’s not like their audience hasn’t heard this over and over and over again. Don’t Genesis feel that their loyal audience deserves better? The only thing that would get me to pay for these expensive tickets would be if the setlist only consisted of songs they had NEVER performed live before.

[@eriksenbriggs]

Or if Peter and Steve joined

[@Alaskanbrawl]

Simply not true. And believe it or not they can play what they like. Don’t like it . Don’t go. Easy.

[@kwitee]

For some of us, this was our first Genesis live show.

[@ethelip5239]

I know what you’re saying & I do wish they changed up a few more songs or arrangements.. But they don’t seem to be full of ambition or creativity anymore..

[@souldreamer9056]

@@Alaskanbrawl exactly what part of what I wrote is not true? That they are playing the same songs and same arrangements as they had for the last 5 tours? That they are expecting their audience to pork out money for live live versions that they have heard over and over again? That I would only go if the setlist consisted of new songs? Please enlighten me, what did I write that wasn’t true?

[@paulthompson6284]

Ohhh yes. Awesome performance 😎👍 Whether they do the entire rendition of "The Cinema Show" or not, I'll have to wait and see next Friday at Newcastle. Nic Collins made an excellent job of it. When you consider Phil Collins' age/health nowadays, he still sings "Afterglow" pretty well 😎👍