The NEW Avanti Class 805 Trains Now In Service

Avanti have their new Class 805 'Evero' trains running on the West Coast Main from London to Chester and North Wales, to replace the old Voyagers. The first ones ran on Sunday June 2nd. Avanti invited me on a driver test train on a trip to Euston to Crewe, so i went along to find out everything you need to know about the new units ...
ALSO:
There's no Standard Premium coach, just four standard and one First Class. The Class 807 will have have 1.5 coaches of First Class.
Thanks to commenters, Scotrail's Class 385 trains also have Assistance Mode on the toilets, which I didn't know - this is excellent!

[@geofftech2]

Disappointed that no one realised that I wore my t-shirt colour on purpose to match with the train ... 😂 ( Unless it's in a comment down below that i've missed!)

[@ConfidentialMeerkat]

I was actually just coming to mention you would blend into the train....

[@Londonechoes]

Excellent Coordination Geoff!

[@mudchute4dlr]

i dont know how i didnt see that lol

[@smjrn63]

Oh I noticed I just didn't want you to think I was wierd or something....

[@Tubemakerlondon]

hey geoff why you don't make a video about the dudding hill line i got lots of information to give i would be happy to contact you

[@simonadams71]

What a huge step up from the woeful GWR 80Xs, decent seats, a buffet and even the lighting looks more subdued. Us Westerners can only hope that a refresh is not too far off. In the meantime the GWR trains shall be called Neveros.

[@dmncg1234567890]

Feel like the GWR 80Xs would be massively improved by replacing the seats, dimming the lights and giving them a proper cafe counter (the trolley service doesn't show up half the time you want it)

[@jordaneastern6971]

Or from what I read about gwr’s 800’s the numb bum service.. 😂

[@jacksonmacmanus1001]

GWR has no money to spend on stuff like that, they need to plug the gaping holes in their fleet first, yes the 800s/802s are crap but at least they are useable, they have massive holes in their fleet and lots of units keep breaking down, not just 800s/802s, but often when its a networker, 387 or 158 that breaks down, its a 800/802 that is drafted in to replace it

[@jacksonmacmanus1001]

@@dmncg1234567890 also if the train is busy and you get people in the aisle, they have to cut the trolley service but with a shop counter they can still run that if busy

[@raphaelnikolaus0486]

That assistant mode on the accessible toilet doors! Now that's a huge step (in accessibilty, that is)!

[@Boopop1024]

Sadly no step forward for people with disabilities or eBikes who can't lift their bikes on to the hooks =/

[@raphaelnikolaus0486]

True

[@theangryintern]

Wouldn't it be better to have the door open from the other side, though? Seems like they are going for allowing a bit more privacy or modesty, but the door still opens basically exposing the person on the toilet!

[@raphaelnikolaus0486]

@@theangryintern I caught myself irritated by that, too. But I guess, there had been a thought process, maybe with an accessibility group even. And: if you imagine the assisted person sitting on the toilet while the assistant leaves/enters, I guess possible views from the side would be better, more appropriate, than more from the front. And we shouldn't forget, that the assistant is walking through the narrowly opened door, thus blickong most of the view. And closing the door immediately afterwards.

[@seanfish17]

@@Boopop1024Can’t agree more

[@GamerSpencer]

Whether you want an earth mover, a train, artillery support or something for the bedroom, Hitachi have you covered! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@6yjjk]

All of which make the earth move in their own way!

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

They've a giant thats for sure.

[@kaliou6645]

1:00 🚂💡ONE 'Avantiage' of this Video is that Geoff has made a very detailed explanation between the Class 800 trains 🧡 I Love it!🧸🐺

[@ChepaBravo]

😂😂Ha, I saw what you did!

[@nathanw9770]

He did forget to mention that Scotrail and Southeastern also have their own Hitachi trains, the class 385 and 395 respectively and that the class 395 design was chosen as the preference for the IEP programme. Also LNER has their own class 800's for use on their partially unelectrified services like Harrogate, Aberdeen, etc. Otherwise quite a good explanation.

[@Dwagginz]

@@nathanw9770 Yeah, the lack of mention of LNER 800s was a pretty glaring omission in my opinion.

[@kimjong-un464]

@@Dwagginzhe did mentioned it at 0:39

[@HarryParkin]

Another main difference between two of them, is that while he says both the 801 and 803 are electric only, the 801 has a backup diesel engine, whereas Lumo’s 803s don’t, as they argue it saved weight and would rarely be used

[@purpleotteruk]

Not jumping up and down about how great ScotRail is (we know it is here) but the Class 385 trains have had assistance mode for a fair while... So good to see other ToCs catching up! Great video Geoff!

[@geofftech2]

didn't know this, thank you!

[@rjs_698]

I presume this is because the class 385 is a Hitachi train too. This is the bit of the video that really cheered me up - being able to treat people with a degree of dignity!

[@tjh123003]

Same as with the MkV's on Caledonian Sleeper services.

[@NuSpirit_]

I still think Azuma as a marketing brand is unbeatable on these trains. Honestly I even forgot the name Evero and had to rewind back.

[@JoeyFoo]

I would think it's just a different marketing strategy - notice it's not even put on the livery, while LNER is advertising every service as an "LNER Azuma" service even on departure boards and announcements. It makes sense to me because unless it's a full fleet replacement, heavily marketing your new trains means you end up with a good portion of passengers annoyed about traveling on the "old" trains.

[@mattscarf]

Agreed re Azuma but I mainly associate them with the awful collapsed seat cushions. 7 hours to Aberdeen makes me want to bring a cushion with me

[@MonopodMan]

Hell, I even call all variants of the Hitachi trains "Azuma" because the name sticks, save for the 803s which I obviously call "Lumo"

[@Nooticus]

Exactly Joey

[@NeilLavitt]

I would think that considering these trains are relatively slow compared to the pendalino stock and more suited to services with lots of stops they are not going to link the two. In any case Azuma simply means east in Japanese. This is the West Coast so it wouldn’t make sense at all.

[@nathantew946]

6:06 free water Fountain on train! I’ve been banging on about and water fountains at stations are years, put on a train that’s a game changer.

[@Vanmanyo]

Went on the first 805 out of Birmingham. Very sleek trains and much better than voyagers; better for the environment, acceleration, capacity etc! Biggest upgrade will be the 807s though as they add the most capacity and more services (such as more Liverpool ones!). Overall the best AT300s too maybe bar Lumo - very good trains and great video Geoff 😆

[@darksars3622]

It's surprising good, the second generation 80x are pretty much all good, for now....

[@gwrydd]

swear i see you on all railway related videos. 2 great content creators in one place

[@Vanmanyo]

@@gwrydd haha thank you! I don't think I should be compared to someone as good as Geoff though!

[@therealcaldini]

What about the sinks in the toilets? Do they follow the same design that gets water all over the floor? Have they improved the design of the toilet so it doesn’t always get blocked? Have they increased the size of the tank that feeds the flush and the sink so it doesn’t run out mid journey?

[@sebwilkins]

It seems the trend of awful seats is now over.

[@haripeterson1063]

LNER have also got some class 800 azumas to run on their diesel only routes like Harrogate, Lincoln, Aberdeen, Inverness etc.

[@teejayy2130]

I have use the LNER Hull executive 800 a few times

[@DIEMLtdTV]

Saw one tonight leaving Euston as I was arriving. It was amazingly shiny!

[@tallboy12]

I like the fact that the closed captions stated you were at 'London Houston' @ 0:04 😀

[@annabelholland]

Yeah, I noticed that the automatic captions always outputs 'Houston' instead of 'Euston' because it sounds similar. I think yt captions use American English which is why it always outputs 'realize' and not 'realise'.

[@frozen_jug_band]

We have a (transcription related) problem

[@abigailcooling6604]

Houston, we have a problem

[@ChrisPindar]

I’ve been riding these from Stafford to Crewe on my early morning commute, boy do they shift!

[@wilfwilson]

A water refill station? Game changing! I’m sad to see the same old 80x bike spaces, hanging your bike up in one of those things is a truly awful experience.

[@rahulpanchal8664]

My lower back has fallen victim to those things

[@mohammedmay]

Just went on one today from Birmingham New Street to Birmingham International, I was absolutely amazed.

[@egpx]

Not wishing to rain on Avanti’s parade but those standard class seats are not particularly comfortable on the Pendolino. A recent four hour journey in one left me with a particularly numb bum. I really don’t know what TOCs have against seat padding. It’s as if they think comfort is a sin, not a virtue.

[@DEFarnes]

At the start I was waiting for a trumped up member of staff to tell Geoff he shouldn't be on the platform more than 3 mins after the train was due to leave in the huge rush they like to make.

[@geofftech2]

Youl’ll be amused to know that two members of staff told me to stop filming, and i had to super politely point out that i was on an Avanti Press trip 😅

[@caramelldansen2204]

@@geofftech2 Can they seriously make you stop filming (assuming you aren't press)? Whether they can or they can't, that's extremely petty. Walking up to a (potential) trainspotter's proverbial sandcastle and kicking it down, all to protect people from... camera violence?? Seriously, what's the issue?

[@stellwyn]

Stand behind the yellow line! BEHIND! THE YELLOW! LINE!!!! 😶‍🌫️

[@southcalder]

@@caramelldansen2204 I've had that. I was stood on the westernmost platform at Warrington Bank Quay last December, so far behind the yellow line that my back was against the wall grabbing a quick shot of one of the new TfW units and one of the "Safeguarding officers" stood right in front of me and asked what I was doing. Being rail staff (though off duty, in civilian attire at the time), I was super polite and told them I was just taking a photo of the train as I was waiting on mine arriving. They then turned their back to me, blocking the shot until the train had left. Proper bully stuff. I work on the infrastructure now, but in a previous career I was a guard for a TOC. I know the rules for filming on the network, and I'm never in a position where I could be of concern and never get in the way of passenger flow or despatch duties. I even try to avoid taking photos of staff/passenger faces, usually waiting until any staff are looking the other way before hitting the shutter. This was just a petty power trip.

[@RandomTFLupdates-PEPS_FOR_LIFE]

​@@caramelldansen2204 from what I understand, on any national rail service , station or property, you are allowed to film , wether your press or not. TFL , your not supposed to but they let it slide to be honest. But I should mention; merseyrail, Tyne & Wear metro , lizzy line and overground staff make out you can't but you can as they are national rail services and you are within your rights to say : "oh , I know I am allowed to film as this is a national rail service" But basically, geoff was allowed to film as he was on a national rail property so he could have even said to them that he knows he can as its national rail.

[@jbuller]

An Evero driving to Crewe. Pulled in on platform two. Cried Geof Marshall, do shout and get out and about, so the other TOCs will be wanting one too

[@DaveB.WalkingFishing-fe4jf]

Hi Geoff great video as always. One thing you forgot to mention was that all the 800 fleet all started with Southeastern’s Class 395. The 395 has brilliant acceleration whilst under the wires, but not so great when on the 3rd rail. I can remember when Great Western visited the 395’s to capture the cab’s features for their trains.

[@richardlace416]

Looks great! I'll miss the bike storage on the Pendolinos, though - one of the best inter city bike racks, and much better than the horrible cupboards on the new Hitachis.

[@nitelast]

They're not replacing pendolinos (class 390) they're only replacing voyagers (class 221). At least for now since the pendolinos are approaching 22 years old and are currently getting refurbished

[@poggs]

A wonderful, down-to-earth and informative video. Thank you!

[@andrewhotston983]

A new train that can do an impression of a Class 40 while it's waiting at Crewe! Amazing!

[@dancedecker]

Yes, I thought that too. Amazing indeed. Perhaps the 810's will do an impression of a Deltic. We live in hope. Lol.

[@andrewcowling5804]

I would like one to do an impression of a steam train

[@stewy62]

I always enjoy that the subtitles change Euston to Houston !

[@benjaminsmith3625]

Nice train! When Geoff was looking at the luggage racks I was surprised how plain and bland it ended up looking it the background!

[@mphillimore2]

I was on a refurbed avanti in the last few weeks from MKC to Euston and the new seats were much worse then pendalinos, hopefully this addresses that. Maybe. Still better then the Hitachis out of Paddington mind!

[@BobPringle-s1g]

Looks so much better than GWR which I had the displeasure of riding regularly. Shows what these trains can be

[@MrJimheeren]

GWR are also the first users of the Hitachi 800 series, and have the most flaws for that reason. They’ve been building this train now for almost 10 years, so they’re good at it now. The first generation Bombardier Electrostar were also breaking down all the time and now is the most popular commuter in Britain

[@K-o-R]

Just removing a huge chunk of diesel under the wires is game-changing. Air quality at Euston will be so much better. 2:10 RGB makes it go faster!

[@AaronD_]

1:49 reservation light disco!

[@caramelldansen2204]

I love getting on the 802s when the reservation system breaks. EVERY light is green and it's a riot!

[@RTWuk]

I hate the Christmas tree lights on Hitachis. Always blaring and distracting, not relaxing at all. Overkill.

[@graham3281]

Good of Geoff to wear a matching shirt to the train livery

[@garybroadhurst3548]

I've been looking for that comment so I didn't have to make it myself. Geoff is so very... 'Goeff' in that respect.

[@garybroadhurst3548]

I think the Voyagers get a lot more 'hate' than they really deserve and I was fully expecting these replacements to be even worse, with the terrible seating found on all the other 800s. I'm actually pleasantly surprised though and looking forward to a ride on these when I'm in the UK in October. Goeff - your colour co-ordination didn't go unnoticed and is appreciated.

[@Trainspotting_Mayhem]

1:43 the train just giving us a reservation light show whilst Geoff talks

[@RandomTFLupdates-PEPS_FOR_LIFE]

Ofc ur here!!

[@puddster212]

This is a brilliant video! Thanks for all the behind the scenes.

[@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG]

Took one yesterday, nice interior, but still feel Pendolinos are far superior in terms of journey quality. The missing tilt feels like a shot in the foot

[@MrGreatplum]

Fantastic video, Geoff - the bi mode trains make so much more sense to me…

[@joshwaaa]

Amazing video as per Geoff, noticed one very small inconsistency though in that LNER also do have bi-mode class 801s to compliment there 800 fleet, they use them to run services to Lincoln via the none-electrified Nottingham - Lincoln branch. I’m not sure on any other diesel routes but I’m sure there are 1 or 2 more!

[@southcalder]

Inverness and Aberdeen also. The Inverness services actually do the Electric to Diesel change at speed between Stirling and Dunblane (where the wires end). The Aberdeen services usually do it while stationary at Waverley (as the wires end just a mile or so out of Haymarket for routes over the Forth).

[@jabberwockytdi8901]

New trains same rubbish operator.

[@Nooticus]

Hardly

[@RandomTFLupdates-PEPS_FOR_LIFE]

There not bad

[@TTPD_9363]

I like avanti west coast I find it comfortable and somewhat reliable timings compared British trains but I do find that the staff rude sometimes

[@LBG252_TheEastLondonBusGuy]

No. AWC Is the Best UK TOC That Uses Everos!

[@kieranstravels]

In terms of the IETs, I think these are some of the best - They're quite a step up on the reputation the earlier units gained for being uncomfortable, and The Shop being retained is something other operators should've done in the first place!

[@Greggs30806]

Best to call them the second generation of IEP's that's for sure

[@kieranstravels]

​@@Greggs30806They certainly feel like a second generation of them.

[@davidfarrow44]

Hope they've improved the seating. I've rode on the GWR and the LNER and there both not good. Give me HST seating anyday!

[@Nooticus]

As always, yet another phenomenal video Geoff. Unfortunately quite a lot of negativity in these comments today which I always hate to see :( Also, despite the double speed acceleration, I struggle to believe that they will be able to keep to an identical timetable if their limit is only 110mph. This is because there are many long runs between stations, so I don’t see how the initial faster acceleration will make up the time loss?

[@jooster0081]

When will TOC’s ever learn-stop the ironing board seats, stop the 5 car sets & stop the tiny luggage racks. Passengers want thick comfortable seats (e.g. Voyager or LNER mk4), they want plenty space to store large cases (e.g. LNER mk4) and want plenty seating to avoid overcrowding (e.g 11 car Pendolino). 5 car voyager sets replaced by 5 car Evero is of no gain in terms of capacity, luggage space & seat comfort🫣🫣🫣

[@annlander]

I agree with you re luggage capacity. Most of the time when I travel by train, I have a suitcase with me and don't have the strength to lift it to even the middle shelf of the rack.

[@andrewreynolds4949]

These 5-car trains are significantly longer than the old 5-car trains, with about 50 more seats each. There are also the 7-car units, which nearly have the same capacity as a 9-car class 390, and there are 3 more units in total. That is a significant capacity increase

[@tsjmcgrath]

More chance of a table seat is honestly my worst nightmare 😅 Really don’t like them, they always feel cramped and not great if you’ve got social anxiety (like me!) I normally try and go to the quiet coach instead in the hope of finding an empty row

[@southcalder]

I agree. I much prefer an airline seat, and will happily abandon my reservation if I arrive to find its a table seat.

[@leona_devon]

Seats = park bench :) oh the joys of modern train travel ;) good job they are fast, before you bum goes numb ;)

[@azy83]

Ive been spoiled by geoff. i see phil stood under a purple zone sign and immediatly my brain starts singing "purple train"

[@justmeajah]

Lolllll

[@matthewgregory1269]

Great video. A well thought out train. Amazing acceleration.

[@travelswithjess]

Great video Geoff! Your videos make me smile 😀

[@discogareth]

Evero won’t catch on. Bit of a silly name

[@arrangallen3041]

Scotrail 385’s also have the assistance mode button for the accessible toilets too

[@bongman123]

Looks brilliant!! I hope GWR consider implementing a shop in the future in their IETs.

[@devotedh]

No we want a proper buffet back that you can stand up in out of of Pad.

[@guillaumemaurice3503]

Thank you for sharing the video Geoff it was very interesting and great information.❤

[@mrjonnyjones]

Your videos are fantastic Geoff, always so well put together! I've never been a train person but your enthusiasm is infectious 🙌🏻

[@mikef7648]

Shiny! But why still such poor bike capacity and bike storage design?

[@llynllydaw]

Because more bikes means less space for passengers?

[@TheUnknown313]

The Class 805's might be my favourite out of the whole Hitachi fleet

[@annlander]

I use the WCML so found this very interesting; thanks Geoff. Now all we need is for Avanti to be a bit more reliable. 🤞🙂

[@HenrysAdventures]

Looks like a lot has been learned since the first Class 800s entered service with GWR. Good to see more table seats and good to see a luggage rack at the end of the carriage instead of no view window seats like the earlier 8xx class trains have.

[@UndergroundEric]

Geoff, id love a video one day on how you plan these out if its possible, to help us small time KZbin folk. I often intend to film stuff but get lost in what im doing and miss things so it would be great to see the kind of process that someone so successful uses. All the best

[@transport_dude]

These trains look absolutely goreous! my favourite train is the class 390 and im wondering for how long they are staying on Avanti west coast. Great video as always!

[@Lynxfan2]

Hello there Geoff, there is a slight omission at the beginning of your video when you remind and inform us of all the operators who have Hitachi Class 800 variant trains, as LNER do indeed have a mixture of both Class 800 bio mode and Class 801 electric only trains. The LNER Class 801 work services to Lincoln, Middlesborough, Aberdeen, Dundee and Inverness as they directly replaced the well loved InterCity 125 sets (2 Class 43 Power Cars + 9 Mark 3 trailers per a set). Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce. St Albans. Hertfordshire.

[@wdielwlairajmd]

Why do they switch to diesel power at Stafford when the line is electrified to Crewe?

[@ojmiester87]

Just part of driver training as the train was only going to Crewe. If it was going to Chester then it would have happened at Crewe.

[@redgold42]

Recorded voice 'speaks for itself'

[@antonydennett5938]

Looks like a nice train. I noticed the better acceleration on electric trains at Didcot.

[@Northerner_Transport_Hub]

Nobody gonna mention the Class 40 which is heard idling at Crewe?

[@geofftech2]

even better ... whilst at Stafford, a Class 70 came through!

[@mrtiabrown]

How much did this lot cost and fares going up again(use to travel every where on trains but average person cannot afford to no more)

[@kr46428]

Rode from Euston to Chester on June 3rd, hoping I might get an 805, but no luck, got a Voyager because the driver hadn't yet been trained on the 805. Ah well, managed to find an 805 later in the week sniffing around on the North Wales mainline.

[@ben-ih1ox]

Its amazing how big the cabs are. They look tiny in the outside

[@geofftech2]

Bear in mind i was using a wide angled lens, which makes it look bigger than it actually is !!

[@tomheadington4762]

People like to shit on new ITE's but they look like a good upgrade from the voyergers. I'm a big fan of window alignment with table seats!

[@terrymoore9388]

Travelled on the 1621 BHM to Euston on Friday last week and then returned on the 1821 to BHM. Everything worked except the seat reservations. Layout of the shop is a lot better than the Azumas. Geoff why was the changeover to Diesel done at Stafford when the OLE runs to Crewe.

[@SteamboatWilley]

More seats round tables is definitely an improvement over the predominantly airline-style Voyagers, but if the seats are anything like the refurbished Pendolinos, they're not very well padded.

[@manomaylr]

1:44 the seat reservations doing a bit of a dance there!

[@Jakegriffin2006]

When 810s come to EMR im being allowed on the first service/event for them as My Uncle is one of the Heads of the 158 fleet in the Derbyshire/Nottighamshire Regions

[@johnlaw3323]

Brilliant how great it must be to be in the drivers cab. Many thanks for making and sharing.

[@rockerjim8045]

I was on an England away trip en route to Montenegro. At Villach station in Austria I decided to walk down to the end of the platform to take a photo. My guard asked me what I was up to. Long story the Driver ended up letting me in the cab all the way to the first stop in Slovenia. I never let on I wasn’t a British Driver which is what the guard thought I was. What a way to enter a new country

[@fuzzynutter8344]

Evero sounds like a brand of lady's bodywash.😆.

[@stellwyn]

I was supposed to travel on one of these last week coming home from Chester, but true to form it was cancelled because they didn't have the crew to run it from Crewe... same old Avanti!

[@liamness]

7:45 I look forward to having to move a bunch of luggage people have stored in here, and then not being able to fit my bike in anyway because the UK rail industry thinks the only bikes that exist are road bikes with skinny handlebars

[@annabelholland]

You forgot about the class 395 'Javelin' sets used on HS1. Although not part of the Class 800 family, they are still made by Hitachi and are the only one that is able to run on both 25kv AC (catenary) and 750v DC (third rail). It seems like all new intercity trains are of the same family now, with the notable exception of the Greater Anglia's 745 'FLIRT' units by Stadler.

[@DJTrainBrain]

Yup, it's all based on the Hitachi A-Train, originally designed for commuter and short-distance services.

[@puppet-head]

Brand new train with that garbage bike cupboard

[@COVENTRYBRIAN]

Anything that replaces a smelly Voyager has to be positive

[@westcommonroom9737]

Well at least Avanti manged to run one service to schedule! As to the rolling stock - unambitious from a pax point of view and a backward step in so many ways. Back to the worst days of BR under Government control...

[@andrewreynolds4949]

The new trains are longer and have significantly more seats than those they are replacing

[@JackHopkins-tv7ez]

Travelled Euston--Holyhead on Tuesday 4 June in a 10-coach formation. The coach with seat bookings was quite full but the allocated space for luggage was quite inadequate. (The amount of luggage was not surprising since most were on their way to Ireland.) Seats were good and the ride was very smooth. At Chester the whole booked coach had to disembark and move forward since the platform at Flint is too short for 10 coaches; the rear coaches had to be locked. Both passengers and crew were furious. The crew insisted they had flagged up this problem earlier to Avanti management. On the way back (11 June) we were in a 5-coach set due to link with another at Crewe. All seemed to go smoothly, but the linkage somehow knocked out the software governing the seat reservation system, meaning that passengers joining at Crewe and Stafford had lost all their seat bookings. In the overall context, perhaps these can be considered minor issues, but they marred the enjoyment of the trip, amd I would think hard before booking withe Avanti again.

[@DEFarnes]

Also fucking annoyed they are calling a train that runs on diesel 'Green'.

[@aldertravels]

Only running on diesel on lines where there's no OHLE- all other lines it runs on overhead. Definitely better than the 221s- also the new 807s will be completely electric.

[@bfcmik]

It uses significantly less fuel per mile than current/previous units and will not use any diesel power when under the wires, again, unlike existing traction. It can also carry more passengers per train than existing sets. Therefore it will be much, much greener than anything that has run to Chester/Holyhead or any future non-electrified destinations.

[@DEFarnes]

However there should have been greater investment in electrification across the network over many years. That would have been green.

[@bfcmik]

@@DEFarnes Greener? Definitely. There are still emissions related to the infrastructure, maintenance and power generation for electrified lines BUT it is way less than running on diesel/coal/fuel oil

[@neilpearson157]

Not the first review to appear but definitely the best. You set the bar very high Geoff.

[@michaelocyoung]

Surely can't be long before the OG 800s/802s get refurbed with better seats and a buffet/shop.

[@12crepello]

What needs to be done is to electrify every trunk line in the country. This would more or less eliminate the need to cart around heavy diesel engines. The GWR route electrification which stops short at Chippenham and does not go from Didcot to Oxford, so the 387's can't get there, is absolutely ridiculous.

[@georgesteam]

Not all LNER Azumas are electric-only. They have 23 x Class 800 bi-mode and 42 x Class 801 EMU (with 1 diesel engine for emergency power)

[@ondrav3705]

do they have more than just 4 bike spaces per 600+ passengers?

[@dancedecker]

"Evero" will get inextricably changed to "Everard". If he was still about, Larry Grayson could do the launch event. Lol. 😂

[@jamesgilbart2672]

The 805s look like an improvement - especially more seats aligning with the windows. Also good that at least some more room is provided for luggage. In many existing units such as the Pendolinos and Adelantes it can be an absolute bun fight trying to find somewhere to put your cases!

[@mrc7478]

Hi Geoff, i enjoyed this video. Thanks.

[@Paco_Gaepedores]

Amazing new cute train :3 Lovely woohoo ❤

[@LostsTVandRadio]

Is 110 mph the train's maximum speed or is 110 mph simply the fastest it is permitted to travel on the west coast main line? (I thought that all the 800s were theoretically capable of speeds in excess of 125 mph).

[@barrieshepherd7694]

Fastest it's currently allowed to travel.

[@hexagon7895]

Current permitted maximum on the WCML, once the new MU profile is signed off they'll be able to go as high as 125 in places but mostly 115-120.

[@ahdhudbbh]

​@@hexagon7895how much slower will journey times be compared to Pendolinos? Will there be much difference?

[@dalriadaman3558]

7:47 Remarkable that they have the vision to add nice features like a water refill station but the bike storage is still so dreadfull. Those cupboards have been known to be not fit for purpose for long enough that installing them on new trains is borderline malpractice. You could argue that for all the talk of the train being better for the environment, that bike cupboard shows that it's just PR speak and the real motivator is electricity being cheaper than running a diesel engine.

[@andrewreynolds4949]

Electricity cheaper than diesel is certainly not a given, the prices fluctuate in relation to each other quite frequently. Not long ago most of the class 90s were pulled from freight service because electricity costs rose so much that diesel was far cheaper to run, even entirely under the wires.

[@wdielwlairajmd]

The top speed of these trains is 125mph not 110mph - possible without tilt for about 30 miles of the route between London and Crewe.

[@thomas8692]

coming later in the year. Network rail haven't completed the upgrade works yet therefore ALL non tilting trains are limited to 110mph till this is completed

[@wdielwlairajmd]

@@thomas8692 Yes, but as I said, the top speed of these trains is 125mph not 110mph. They can run at this speed between Wolverhampton and Stafford and Rugby and Coventry today, as those speeds do not require tilt. You are correct about the Network Rail upgrade not being completed for the extra bits.

[@aaronjones8884]

To be honest I prefer the voyagers having been on both, seats where a lot softer plus the 221s tilt which is just cooler

[@rikufryderyk]

Nice, gotta do a video about this soon... there's a lot to mention about it

[@RandomTFLupdates-PEPS_FOR_LIFE]

No , not really

[@raphaelnikolaus0486]

Re the livery: Look closely at the Avanti livery for each class of train and you will see it is not the exact same for all of them. The (detail) execution is different, and I think on the Pendo's it is rather poorly executed. Were yout to transfer the Evero livery execution 1:0 onto the Pendo's, those would look better in this livery too.

[@MattyTowcester]

Surely southeastern were the first UK users of the A train fleet?

[@Dan-cd6hm]

Now this is how you launch a new train: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJepgq2Iar98ors

[@davidraab2916]

Nice train all you need is the drivers

[@SRV777]

On class 196 CAF DMU unit's, you have the feature of pressing the button twice. The first time you press the open doors button, then you press it again, the door stops which is great for accesibility but unfortunatly hasn't really been mentioned much until I started saying all the features. Having been on the Evero units a few months back being inside of them whilst they were on test with no seats in made the train feel widley spacious! Great Video Geoff

[@TheMrMarkW]

I hope they’ve made the seats more comfortable than on the LNER Azuma trains. Standard class seats are *horrendously* uncomfortable. Rock hard and give both tall and short people backache.

[@Greggs30806]

The seats are the same as the refurbished class 390's

[@Sim0nTrains]

They do impressive, I have seen them but haven't rode on one yet, great video