The Two Congos: Why Africa Has Two Congo Countries With A HUGE Population Difference

[@MrIanjester]

Belgium didn't just get out of the Congo quickly without leaving behind a constitution and elected government like France did in the RoC. Belgium with the help of the CIA took part in the overthrow of the DRC's government and aided in the murder of its leader Patrice Lumumba. I feel like that is an important point to bring up when discussing why we see a legacy of corruption and instability left by Mobutu Sese Seko's Zaire.

[@xwhite2020]

As much as you would like it to be the CIAs fault or Germans from the 1900s fault or the French, it's African corruption and it's driven by Africans. Leave your white guilt driven racism out of it.

[@yashashgc3488]

Agreed! I don’t think corruption is the only issue.there are other factors like the mines being controlled by western companies who coup/assassinate anyone who interferes with the exploitation.

[@Jcguy123]

We also need to talk about the indigenous pgmys who are slaughtered and enslaved by Bantus

[@emmanuelcaceres3360]

I don't care about that stupid dictator I like the name Zaire it makes more sense not because of that jerk

[@-_Somebody_]

Sounds like we need another video to deep dive on those topics. I love YT because no history class I’ve ever been in throughout k12 has ever discussed Africa’s history the way Geoff and others have. Even the current events in Niger is being kept away from msm….hmm. Something is going on here.

[@carolineo9510]

One thing he forgot to mention is that the Congo free state was not owned by Belgium originally. It was a privately owned colony of King Leopold ii of Belgium, and all the wealth went to his personal possessions rather than the Belgium government. It was only in 1908 after worldwide protests over the abuse the native Congolese suffered under the rule of King Leopold and the employees of his private company that ran the colony that he finally sold the Congo free state to Belgium and allowed the government to run it. A great book on this topic is “King Leopold’s Ghost” by Adam Hochschild.

[@chrisnyasia7]

A congo that he'd never once been to...

[@MegaTheoD]

Please mention the 10million indigenous people murdered during colonial rule

[@roelantverhoeven371]

@@MegaTheoD it was a disgrace, modern day belgians are not proud of it...

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

When Leopold sold his colony to Belgium, a lot of incriminating files got burnt! When his funeral cortege wound through Brussels streets, some working-class people booed! (I would have...)

[@DrewM91105]

You forgot the word "horrific" or "barbaric" before "abuse". Leopold's lackeys in the Congo Free State, as it was called, tortured anyone who would not behave like a slave, murdering thousands of Congolese people and cutting the hands off even children who would not work for them or work fast enough. It was horrific barbarism by supposedly civilized Europeans. I always gag when someone says Africa is less civilized than Europe. Europeans have proven to be some of the least civilized people on earth from the Crusades to the Spanish Inquisition to the Holocaust and including the two world wars, all brought to you by European "civilization".

[@nathanolson3135]

My grand dad was a writer and he was in Congo for long time Pre and after it independence and if I remember correctly I don’t think those countries got their name from the Congo river , rather it’s from the Congo kingdom that existed there in the territory that include morden day part of DRC , Congo republic and part of Angola Pre western colonialism/ slavery . The whole Congo river thing according to him is the west rewriting history of Africa . May he RIP

[@chrisnyasia7]

Did you mean the Kingdom of the Kongo?? I tend to believe your grandfather...(may he rest in peace)

[@ringgame]

He’s right.

[@jestiny]

Same difference tbh. The river was named after the kingdom. It’s all intertwined

[@kingpauljoel6827]

Before the colonization, Congo Brazzaville ,western region of DRC ,angola and some regions of gabon was part of the " Kongo empire" ,kongo empire had a long history of dealing with the kingdom of Portugal and was for decades a vassal kingdom of Portugal. And also DRC changed it name to zaire not in 1965 but in 1971.

[@DBT1007]

yup. write your own name with right spelling! it's KONGO. not "C". the hell europeans cant spell. smh... C is pronounced like C in "Cherry" word. it's "Ce". in European languages, C can be S, K.. if it's like that, then whats the purpose of C letter, European languages !?? this also applies for YOU, all the people that some of words in your language got butchered or wrongly spelled. NOW YOU NEED TO FIX IT. one big example of this dumb spelling fixing is the "Muslim" word. back then, like.. recently before 2010s, those europeans still writes it as "Moslem". bruh.. dumb spell. but now, it's fixed to be "MUSLIM". that's one big example that WE CAN FIX THIS DUMB EUROPEAN SPELLINGS Cingis Han/Khan not Genghis Khan; Muhammad not Mohamed; Nur not Noor; Karim not Kareem; Cin/Chin not Qin; Krakatau not Krakatoa; Kampung not Kampong; Bajau not Badjau or Badjo; Yun not Yoon; San not Sun; Asolot not Axolotl; etc.

[@chrisnyasia7]

It's great you bring this up because the relationship between the kingdom of the Kongo and Portugal, the original European colonizer, is so old that the African people purchased by Portugal during this match made in hell, are considered, genetically, the forefathers of all African Americans...

[@MamanPotentielleTLubangu]

Well said

[@hotman_pt_]

match by god you mean@@chrisnyasia7

[@Monke_boi13]

@@chrisnyasia7 all??

[@revinhatol]

2:25 SIDE NOTE: Spain held the Western Sahara and what is today Equatorial Guinea.

[@Hypernefelos]

Yeah, watching the video I kept wondering why Equatorial Guinea was being ignored.

[@bopax4317]

DRC breaks my heart. I travelled through it from Rwanda to CAR over 40 years ago. It is the ultimate example of how megalomaniacs rule the world without love for others. I always hoped it would change but….

[@chrisnyasia7]

The only logical blame goes to unholy European colonialism...

[@kennyke043]

@@chrisnyasia7 victim mentality.

[@republicadominicana8589]

@@chrisnyasia7 eedyotahasz

[@ThrE3-GeS]

There was a third congo, portuguese congo as well now called cabinda and it is now part of angola even though it‘s seperated.

[@Robertbrown08049]

Very good . Most people do not know about Portuguese Congo. Glad to see another Geographile

[@tonymagrogan]

I thought it was “Minors, many of whom are children,” until I realized it was “Miners, many of whom…” Makes more sense now :)

[@eggsmiles]

“Miners, many of whom are minors”

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

I think you mean ":("

[@tonymagrogan]

@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou glad you didn’t say “makes more cents now.” The wages are sadly pretty low

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

@naka8919 That's basically the definition everywhere.

[@-_Somebody_]

@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYounot in America - it is 18.

[@gracewilliams7476]

As a congolese canadian I always feel extremely happy when people talk about Congo- both in this case. Thank you for sharing this!

[@djordjesrnic1223]

02:50 Cameroon was actually German before WWI and became French after.

[@second2none914]

It was African before that.

[@djordjesrnic1223]

@@second2none914 That goes without saying.

[@mddi1420]

@@djordjesrnic1223 that was never french nor german. That was occupied

[@djordjesrnic1223]

@@mddi1420 Read the above comments.

[@Lukejb2Butterworth]

a larger part became French while a smaller part became British

[@jerrysstories711]

They used to call them Congo-Leo and Congo-Brazzaville. I've come across that in old spy novels.

[@bigbootros4362]

Kinshasa used to be called Leopoldville.

[@John_Fugazzi]

In the early 60s they were referred to as Republic of Congo and Republic of the Congo; Then Congo Brazzaville and Congo Leopoldville soon changed to Kinshasha (beacuse who would want anything named for that guy. Then it was Congo Brazzaville and Zairre and now (finally?) Republic of Congo And Democratic Republic of the Congo.

[@emmanuelcaceres3360]

I like better Zaire not because of that jerk Dictator I like the name Zaire it makes more sense so it won't be confuse with the country of Congo

[@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781]

Now it's congo Kinshasa

[@CorbinCCraig]

This was a great video. Love to learn about a region the world that I have not heard much about before

[@darkless60]

Read the book "King Leopold's Ghost Goes into detail on how Belgium became the most brutal European colonizer

[@jordydinga1167]

There was elections in Belgian Congo in 1960. The coalition of Lumumba won and he became prime minister. Belgium also provided DRC with " loi fondemental" ( fundamental law) that served as provisional constitution. The early date for DRC independence was the result of the insistence of Congolese delegates at the table ronde( January 20- February 20, 1960) . They opted for immediate independence which was scheduled for June 30,1960; leaving about four months only for the transition from a colony to an independent state. Some Congolese leaders were associated to the management of the country during that time at both national and provincial levels. But frankly, the time was a bit short. Agents of administration and Belgian officers in the army were supposer to stay in the country until we can have qualified people to replace them. But they left some time after the independence due to troubles and the relations between Congo and Belgium worsening.

[@kingdomofgarvin3432]

Do one about Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹

[@phatlassie]

No matter how many times I study the map of Africa, I can never keep straight the countries & capitals:((

[@Dynamic241]

Dw about the capitals, what helped me with Africa was memorizing the regions. Go in this order, north, east, central, south, and then west. In my opinion west is the hardest. So do that last

[@emmanuelcaceres3360]

Africa have 54 countries

[@emmanuelcaceres3360]

I like more the name Zaire for the country not because of that stupid dictator who care about that jerk is that the name makes for sense for the country

[@second2none914]

@@Dynamic241I used the same method, but funny enough I found west the easiest and east the hardest.

[@railroadforest30]

To me they are easy to remember to me the pacific nations in Oceania are harder to remember

[@thegreencouchshow4029]

I’m from Congo Brazzaville sadly I’ve never had the opportunity to cross the river to Kinshasa. I will have to cross whenever I’m back home.

[@thomaslanders2073]

I'd imagine that most of the DRC's population is involved in subsistence farming so it boggles the mind that they'd have to import 80% of their food as this video implies 🤔

[@mr.frenchii8973]

It's very sad to say this but my people are so used to being spoon fed instead of getting food on their own. Everyone wants a blue collar job while we have been blessed with rich soil to exploit. On top of that our leaders DON'T care about the well being of the country. Its pretty much "how much money can it get while I'm in this position " type of mentality

[@kiewies]

Europe & US are still pillaging Africa to this day! African people toil in deadly conditions to provide material wealth to the global powers, meanwhile having very little political power to seize their material wealth for themselves. This is starting to change, but has been the status quo.

[@chalimutangama5840]

Most people in Demo Congo have an average of 12 children in a nuclear family. But if a guy has two wives, he can have 20 or more children. So even subsistence farming really doesn't help coz agriculture takes times to give yeilds. So most congelese are traders. I live in Zambia, DRC's neighbouring country. It's true they import most of their food from us and South Africa. And guess what? Am a farmer. Lol

[@frankfleming1103]

​@@chalimutangama5840 The civilization of the African continent has been exceeded too far away by other continents, as if it has just entered the Stone Age/Bronze Age to Iron Age, with no trace of industrial civilization visible

[@frankfleming1103]

​@@chalimutangama5840 Agriculture in modern society requires ultra-high levels of industry and technology, which is much more difficult than producing cars, airplanes, rockets, and satellites. Congo is backward in agriculture is understandable,

[@jordydinga1167]

Belgium didn't control Congo Free state which was in theory an independent state and private property of Leopold II, King of Belgium. Belgium took over the Congo Free state in 1908 which became the belgian Congo

[@bigmofarah9084]

Interesting video. Small but big thing - you incorrectly used ‘England’ at 2:23 for your map of colonising states. England is but one part of the UK and your error would be like saying California or Texas when referring to the whole of the US. Seeing as this is supposed to be a geography channel it’s a surprising error.

[@josephwest124]

Also, just a note: From 1969 to 1992, the Republic of the Congo was a fully Marxist state officially known as the "People's Republic of the Congo." (The real oddity is that "Democratic Republic of . . ." is also a common name used by Marxist or Communist nations as is "People's Republic of . . ." East Germany was officially the "German Democratic Republic" and North Vietnam was officially the "Democratic Republic of Vietnam." The Marxist/Communist government of Afghanistan which came to power in 1978--and eventually propped up by the Soviet Union in 1979--was officially the "Democratic Republic of Afghanistan." Yet, the Democratic Republic of the Congo--while continually unstable politically--was never a Marxist, much less Communist, state.)

[@bopax4317]

Mabuto was installed by the colonizers! Zaire was never a Marxist state. He was a brutal authoritarian and in the 70s, perhaps the richest man on earth.

[@christianmpassi3450]

You are spot on. Although I am from DRC I have always find the name of my country quite strange. One can disagree with Mobutu but at least he had the good idea of giving the country a more straightforward name clearly distinguishing it from the Congo Brazzaville.

[@bopax4317]

@@christianmpassi3450 any idea why it was changed back?

[@christianmpassi3450]

@@bopax4317 When Laurent Kabila took power there was a huge anger against how Mobutu mismanaged the country. Mobutu pocketed huge amounts of money for himself, destroying the economy. The population was struggling particularly in the last years of his régime and the political scene was chaotic as Mobutu was manipulating it behind the scene. His good work in keeping the country united and giving us a sense of national pride was thus forgotten. Doing away with everything linked to Mobutu was however a useless exaggeration.

[@AllieThePrettyGator]

Fun Fact both capital cities in the Congo's are close to one another across from the river

[@elikyaa]

DRC has Ubangian, Bantu, Pygmy, Central Sudanic and Nilotic groups. I don't like that the Ubangian, Central Sudanic and Nilotic groups are ALWAYS ignored in favour of the Bantus and Pygmys. Especially when you consider the fact that some of the most prolific Congolese people such as Mobutu or Koffi Olomidé came from these groups but they're always ignored in these videos.

[@tks4829]

You can even add the hamitic/cushitic in reference to the Hema and Tutsis but they’re also always ignored in these conversations

[@SC-fk9nc]

😂

[@EstaJeanette-nk7fj]

DRC is 98 percent bantu.

[@UkBootings6]

@@tks4829 na we like the bahemas and tbh personally I like the Tutsis in Drc

[@obedmutai2952]

Hello im nilote from kenya will like to know more of nilotes in congo

[@mr.frenchii8973]

Great job! And excellent pronunciation of all the words 👏🏽

[@zinhle_dladla]

He didn’t pronounce Angola correctly but he did well with the other countries

[@Luca-Swanepoel]

@@zinhle_dladla I've got Angolan friends that's exactly how they pronounce it.

[@mickeylee2624]

The DRC's Mineral (and therefore, Human) Exploitation industry exemplifies why the tremendous cost to human lives, pollution (which also devastates local people's health), and environmental damage do NOT make battery-powered cars and business model of big tech (i.e. disposable nature of constantly upgrading, therefore, quickly trashing computers, cell phones, and other products way too frequently) "sustainable" or environmentally-friendly.

[@mountainous_port]

The last part really irritates me.

[@RandyJGJ]

Could you please do a video on the East African Rift?

[@damon-v1z]

There are 4 two countries 1. TWO CHINA 2. TWO SUDAN 3. TWO KOREA 4. TWO CONGO

[@SplashPlacide-fu7cq]

FREE CONGO 🤣

[@indoaryan93]

Also two indias, India and Pakistan where one

[@tonyanaka6359]

1 Republic of Congo and Democratic republic of Congo 2 South Sudan 3 North Korea and South Korea 4 China Please I need for information about China because everyday we keep learning

[@aidenbooksmith2351]

Add a fifth. Guinea. There's Guinea-Bissau and Guinea-Conakry.

[@blackholedividedbyzero]

@@indoaryan93 actually there's three including Bangladesh.

[@TheMinotaur70]

Congo Brazzaville is Switzerland for Congo Kinshasa

[@LucasRodrigues-nj8sj]

Ne plaisantez pas, les Zaïrois, la RDC, immigrent dans toute l'Afrique centrale, du Sud et de l'Est

[@jamesjablonski3167]

Great channel 😊

[@kalebwieland4938]

Can you imagine being subdued by a country 76 times smaller than you? That would honestly be scary.

[@cocoabeanzwantstopuzzle]

It is honestly terrifying to think about. Not to mention-how much power these countries could hold. These conquered nations were being ruled by a small populace that almost certainly saw them as lesser beings for being conquered and having a different culture from the colonizers doing a hostile takeover. Conquest is an evil and terrifying thing.

[@MrDifficille]

Small in geography is not small in population. Wake up.

[@Hypernefelos]

@@MrDifficille Yeah, in 1960 the population of Belgium was 9 million, which wasn't much smaller than Congo's 15 million. And the technological disparity was immense.

[@seanthe100]

These countries had significant populations compared to Africa not to mention their tiny size and large population meant they had a large ability so subjugate others. The DRC is massive with the second largest rainforest on The planet meaning people were not connected.

[@philipotenyo8236]

Belgium had the help of Satan

[@Jbels]

Great discussion on these 2 countries. How about sharing the history of Rwanda next?

[@Lukejb2Butterworth]

Except they left out the 3rd Congo = Portuguese Congo .

[@geoffreylee5199]

Thereis a third Congo, it was annexed by Angola in the 1970s civil war. Portugal administered it as a separate colony, but the Communist soldiers from Cuba overran the place in about 1975.

[@craftergin]

This video was really interesting and incredibly sad.

[@donnathanaelbakutsu1871]

Thank for the video, I am Congolese (DRC).

[@tianwang]

The Chinese way to d disambiguate these two countries is to call them Congo-Bra 刚果布 and Congo-Kin 刚果金, suffixing with the first syllable of their capital name.

[@phatlassie]

Highly recommend Andres Giles, Voyage au Congo.

[@florent1024]

Extremely interesting and instructive video work. Thank you very much. Merci beaucoup Monsieur !

[@Lesegohhh]

i love this content and your voice ❤

[@evolutionaryTom]

In 1987 I was with 2 Brits and we went waterskiing out of the "boat club" in Kinshasa. A storm rolled in and we tried to take cover on shore directly across from Kinshasa on the shore of Brazzaville. We landed the boat next to shore and soon found ourselves with AK-47's pointed at us by 4 Congo soldiers. They wouldn't let us get out of the water and take cover. So we sat there in shallow water up to our necks, trying to shield ourselves from the pelting rain. I was more nervous of reptiles in the shallow water than I was of the Congolese soldiers. 40 minutes later the rain stopped and we slowly got into the boat and took off towards Kinshasa. Made for a great story later. Waterskiing on the Congo River is not as nice as it sounds.

[@Yamamotoseto]

Reminds me of republic of China and people’s republic of China

[@pranawdhital]

Except the modern congos have never been together and don’t claim each other

[@jag92949]

How about the Republic of Korea & Democratic People’s Republic of Korea?

[@0070-y1c]

@@pranawdhital but huge parts of modern congo's and gabon used to be parts of Congo empire where the names is derived from and both share same language, people and culture

[@ralfhtg1056]

I still don't use the name DRC, I still use the name Zaire.

[@misssannaa]

Thanks for the facts! I'm so interested in geography but not enough to read lol

[@BabyBearRudy]

My biggest flaw is that I believe I can fix Africa if I felt like it

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Well, now China/PLA is fixing Africa as I type.

[@seanthe100]

I dream about it all the time

[@six6thdisciple]

YOUR PROBABLY WHITE

[@Visiontech]

Another great video and thanks.

[@nairadevi2182]

The DRC was Zaire until Mobutu fell and Kabila took the power which happened in the 90’s. Also, Kongo-Brazzaville like Kongo-Kinshasa are both colonial names.

[@nsimbadiasamba7709]

We have 4 Kongo's : DRC, Congo, Angola and Gabon and the capital of Kongo is based in Angola. Please rivized your knowlege of africa. Not be focus after Berlin conference leaded by imperialist people from Europe.

[@K7SVN]

Those Angola bakongo were from Congo 🇨🇩

[@DiogoF.]

It is very sad Africans could never made Africa function. Interrupted only by the European colonizations.

[@mbathroom1]

second, last time I was this early, it was all Kongo

[@Lukejb2Butterworth]

There was originally 3 Congo territory's Belgium Congo , French Congo & Portuguese Congo .Portuguese Congo was invaded by Angolan & Cuban troops and is still fighting to get there rights = Cabinda war

[@AshaTanwar-b9w]

Brazzaville and kinshasa are two most near capital cities on earth at 30miles

[@dorianvictorencinasvargas3453]

Forgot to mention they have the closest capitals between two countries

[@MrRBS360]

More Africa please

[@dforrest4503]

There is no way the DRC could survive if it imported 80% of its food. It just doesn’t have the financial wherewithal to do that. I’d like you to cite your sources on this please.

[@kingpauljoel6827]

I was and raise in Kinshasa the capital City of Drc,i do work in import and export business ,80 % it is not far from the truth.

[@simonboland]

Countries with “Democratic” in their title will have more people obviously😂 probably nothing democratic at all given its history of dictators.

[@darkmatter5424]

I am a geography enthusiast and I am embarrassed to admit that I have very little knowledge of central African states. The fact that I am unaware of the two Congos is proof. 😅

[@zanedietlin7645]

If anyone is looking for more, I very highly recommend ‘The Poisonwood Bible’ by Kingsolver. Incredible piece of historical fiction that goes deep into Belgian occupation and the results

[@Annieyaz]

I agree with you. I read the Poisonwood Bible. Excellent book.

[@bassheadchilled1344]

nothing 'democratic' about the DRC lol

[@thesqrtofwhy758]

8:20 nice graphic!

[@bluemountain555]

Regarding the river, when was it named the Zaire River and when was it changed back to Congo River? Was there any opposition when it was renamed as the Zaire River?

[@GranolaMwiinga]

Not really because they were avoiding war plus, originally it was known as Kongo river from the Kongo Empire...

[@prestonrick5103]

The internet estimate of mineral wealth in the country (DRC) is 24 trillion dollars. That divided by 110 million people would be $218,000 per person. Of course I realize it would not be distributed fairly or equally. Much of what makes our modern life possible (coltan and cobalt) comes from this country. Yet of course the people are some of the poorest in the world. I am visiting this country next month and I'm sure I'll get more insight.

[@sayadfagbemi9134]

You also forgot to mention they both speak a common language...

[@WebinarPerson]

Thanks, interesting 🤔

[@FonsecaStatter]

Angola was never part of «Central Africa»... Even in termos physical/environmental terms Angola is much more akin to «southern Africa.

[@familygash7500]

The D.R.O.C. should change it's name back to Zaire.

[@Steph-lc7hy]

I agree. Its less confusing with the other one

[@Justgracieee8]

Nah its good

[@IndiaMikePapa]

The same reason there's North and South DAKOTA!

[@waterhead2000]

In addition to Ethiopia, Liberia wasn’t colonized as well

[@pranawdhital]

But it was an American slave settlement

[@ericvulgate]

Liberia is an amerikan colony.

[@RedCommunistDragon]

It was a United colony

[@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781]

10:26 it also has timber

[@ahoraya1047]

In that área there is only one small Spanish speaking country, Equatorial Guinea, the second richest country in África (in income per head), which got Independence from Spain in 1968

[@albania881]

Long live URC (United Republic of Congo)

[@manishmishra9525]

Lots Of Love From #India Bro

[@johnhblaubachea5156]

Correction: Cameroon was first a German colony: Kamerun. Aftr WW I it was divided between France and the United Kingdom.

[@DrewM91105]

People are never referred to as an "amount" but a "number". It's a "number of people". Why? "Amount" is for aggregates of things like stones, sand, and water. "Number" is for all living things and for things you can count. To use "amount" for people is actually pretty insulting. These videos always begin with a junior high school history review which is kind of insulting. The actual explanation to the question is tucked away at the very end, the last few minutes.

[@rosedevereux2391]

This "amount of people" scourge is even on the news!!

[@joserodrigues46]

The Congo region was divided in 3: Portuguese Cabinda and Northern Angola, French Congo and Belgian Congo (Zaire).

[@MatthewMrMy]

Cameroon wasn't French from the start. It was German until WWI. I recommend you double-check when you do your research cause there seems be many of them in your video.

[@kingdomofgarvin3432]

Do one about Grenada 🇬🇩

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

URGENT FURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

They should call them East Congo and West Congo!

[@salbenrosli707]

There used to be Portuguese Congo - which is now Cabinda province of Angola

[@realbaron5714]

Fun fact: These countries have the most closed capital each and other.

[@hotman_pt_]

Vatican and Rome lol

[@leonardoschiavelli6478]

Buenos Aires 🇦🇷 & Montevideo 🇺🇾

[@RobDas-xl5ed]

One is a country the other is a continent.

[@GranolaMwiinga]

Few things you get wrong but mostly accurate

[@interpan]

This is the only place in the world where the capitals of two countries lie side by side separated by a river.

[@Ch0ckl8]

These maps don't do the DRC justice - most of the population lives in the East near the border and lakes. That's why their history is more influenced by the likes of Rwanda and Uganda and not the other Congo, which lies beyond a massive jungle.

[@afonsonimibernardobernardo1958]

The Congo is Angola kindlgdom we have just one kongo

[@gosnooky]

I think you should use the metric system for area and distances, or at least have both.

[@oceejekwam6829]

Don't both "Congos" share some ethnic groups. The broader Bantu family of peoples is common to both. They're not that estranged from one another.

[@chrisbennett6260]

the chinese are stripping the Congo to dust but they wouldnt allow there environment to be stepped to nothing by outsiders

[@icreatedanaccountforthis1852]

amazing

[@yankj7647]

One Congo policy

[@kingdomofgarvin3432]

Real Talk

[@SebastiaanSweers]

It the past it was called Congo brazaville and of course Zaïre when mubuto lived.

[@CJlovestakiss]

you forgot how they both share 3 commonly spoken languages and a similar culture!

[@hyacinthjarrett8637]

The same can be said about Sudan too.

[@henridefeutcha3687]

Cameroon was a German Colony like Namibia, Rwanda, Burundi, Togo

[@adineatha9766]

CAR, DRC and Congo should just merge into a single Central African nation.

[@jasonbuff8629]

The video feels incomplete, you didn't go into detail about the daily lives of those living in the Republic of Congo and the resources they have

[@tommycscat]

Fun Fact: Without colonialism, Africa would be twice the nightmare it is today. Not only did colonialism stop truly, truly terrible occupations, it stopped many macabre practices that dominant tribes had no intention of stopping. Plus, infrastructure. Personally, I was born, raised and still live in Chad. I have spent a great amount of time in Cameroon, CAF, both Congos and Nigeria. I know first hand that even with all that went wrong, colonialism considerably raised our life expectancy. (And no, Ethiopia was not always independent. Italy built Ethiopia up and China is now updating infrastructure.) I get that it's not "cool" to recognize reality. To those of us actually here, "cool" is not a priority

[@MrDifficille]

Fun fact. Without colonialism and enslaving Africa and Africans, Europe would be a nightmare backwater that it soon be as Africans assert their real independence.

[@daeith1233]

that's just staight up line. The truth is that Europeans have been the same thing you describe, same for Asians and Americans, but when Europeans and some Asians were able to fix a system adapted to them, create their countries after many war, that system was forced on Africans. See, Africans had Great Empires even before Europeans, which is logical since they are the first homo sapiens, they created civilisations. Even in Western Europe, Africans imported some civilisation with the Moors. They were great Empires in Ghana, Nigeria, Mali, Ethiopia, Egypt, Kongo and more... They eventually ended, some bc of arabs, some other bc of Europeans themselves (ex Kongo with Portugal), and eventually fell down, Africans were living appart, since they are different ethnic groups (Africa is actually the most genetically diverse place of the world, ppl didn't identify by skin color but by their ethnic group, and since they were so many, there were so many little societies, living indenpently, appart from each other. Maybe one day they woud have eventually united by wars just like Europeans, or alliance, some have similar languages so they could've united bc of that, they could've start trades with other African tribes, countries so it would've develop other "industries" but no, no one let the do that bc Europeans just wanted Africa so badly that they just came up with their systems and did their things. I feel like you forget how European societies invade without even realizing it sometimes. For example with America: sometimes Europeans would propose to only take some part of a territory to the natives, they might agree but their European lifestyle include being sedentary, building houses to stay, having children so building more to stay there (since they used to have a lot of children) and building roads, and they longer ones and the natives territories would just disapear like that. So if a thing, Europeans don't bring up new things but suppress old systems so only their one remain. In that case, it's terrible for Africa, as they consume like Europeans in non european countries. An perfect example would be meat, Africans eat it ofc but for a long it wasn't a primary element in African food, tbh you could remove meat in most of our food and you can style perfectly eat it (at least for Nigeria, Congo, Senegal, those I know the most). Also more recently, TV explain how badly Africa will be affected by the Ukrainian war since Ukraine was their main wheat exportation but the fat is that wheat isn't even that used in most African food (unless fufu and maybe some others). Now since you come from Chad, I don't know if you see any evolution but from what I see, the country is definitely not going well after colonisation, and it wasn't going well during either, the life expectancy you're talking abt could've ork if big Western corporations like Nestlé weren't there to ruin African's health, I don't know how you can live longer with capitalism, as hospital is certainly not free. Now from what I know, DRC could've been a way better place after colonization if CIA and the West didn't ruin it, by killing Lumumba, putting gouvernement that help them to get all the minerals they need, I mean they even finance Rwanda so they can kill in DRC, how are we supposed to be grateful bc "at the end of the day we have hospital" that most of the population can't use?

[@gizzie_]

Unfortunately France Afrique are the only Africans I hear talk about how Africa would have been worse without colonialists..... Emancipate yourself from mental slavery... I'm a Nigerian

[@Joker-no1uh]

IDK if you can really predict that. Would you rather be ruled harshly by a foreign power or your own people? Personally, I want my own people, whether good or bad. It's impossible to predict what would have happened. Without colonization, you wouldn't have the issues with borders that have caused tons of issues over the years. Resources wouldn't have been stolen to foreign countries. Would the native rulers share that wealth? Who knows, but it would have stayed in the country, which is better regardless.

[@josemiguel994]

How long is the DRC’s coastline?

[@emmanuelgossaki4404]

i thinks its around 37 km

[@zinhle_dladla]

You pronounced the other countries correctly except Angola. To make it easy it for its Ahhhh-Go (as in the word go)-lah ahhhh gooo lah

[@Chilinda_GA]

I noticed that too. Didn't sound/feel right at all.

[@ellyobwaka2730]

* Liberia was also not colonised.

[@RedCommunistDragon]

Yes it was. It was a United States colony.

[@robinmangala3536]

Are you dumb? Just look at their flag, it literally looks like the one of the USA

[@jordydinga1167]

Not a by an European power. But practically, it was colonized and ruled by freed slaves and their descendants who didn't ask what the opinion of the locals that found there on the matter

[@Lostlosers03]

And 2 Sudans 🇸🇩🇸🇸

[@LZin-uk5nh]

The author makes a point about generalizing a continent and proceeds to generalize the colonization of Africa. Africa wasnt conquered by direct colonization policies ( with the exception of Algeria and South Africa). Most of the continent was conquered via individual entrepreneurs, explorers and Christian missinaries and geopolitical concerns. Not to mention every African colony( except South Africa) was a net loss

[@hotman_pt_]

direct colonization did happen in the final years of portuguese africa

[@keke6254]

Net loss yet they continually spent billions on thousands of soldiers to occupy Africa