Streaming Will Get Even Worse

[@knowledgehusk]

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[@supermarioplushes2517]

Hey

[@ahmadalnzi2694]

noice

[@rocko7711]

😬😬😬😬😬😬

[@chickenwings6172]

This is why physical media is better

[@MalachiCo0]

Yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!

[@Soltra45]

I used to happily pay my subscriptions a couple years ago. Now I sail the seas once again.

[@theknightsofawesomeness2701]

You are a pirate!

[@ChineduOpara]

Avast, ye matey! Arrrrr! 🏴‍☠️🦜

[@Marauder-q2v]

Even piracy has gotten easier over the years. For people who want fast setup, i just recommend stremio because you can have a lobotomy and still use it.

[@supersmilyface1]

Yar har fiddle-dee-dee, my friend!

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Yo ho and a bottle of rum!

[@AußerirdischeLebensForm]

"... with no ads..." They are inserting ads everywhere pretty soon, too. There will be 0 difference between TV and streaming except for the on-demand concept.

[@TheDeadAlewives]

Yeah, saying "with no ads" should come with an asterisk considering most of the services now have an extra tier now you have to pay even MORE for to get the ad-free experience.

[@JonatasAdoM]

Which ia even worse than TV. There is no decision paralysis on TV, it has a schedule and you can sit and watch. Streaming has the worst aspects of rental and TV together.

[@WolfSaviorZX]

I disagree because at the very least it's killing network news channels as those don't really work on streaming and that is good for society if CNN and Fox News disappeared one day.@@JonatasAdoM

[@qpol]

cable TV had VOD anyways so there really is no difference

[@johnofark]

This sounds just like people trying to make an alternative to trains and end up just making worse trains

[@NewPaulActs17]

"that's a bendy bus, bro"

[@confetti_bun]

Elon Musk?

[@LillyP-xs5qe]

Why can't they just do trains... Trains are cool and legit and be fully electric with no batteries.

[@Ultravenom1]

​@@LillyP-xs5qe Because trains are a long term investment that requires constant maintenance. Unless the project has a lot of hype, if dies. That's why "Wow! A worse train but with airtight tunnels???" is used instead of just "a train".

[@noahwilliams8996]

It sounds like slightly better trains because now we can watch a given episode any time instead of waiting for it to rerun. We've gone from trains, to something much better than trains, and back to slightly better trains.

[@cstephen98]

The problem is they still want increased profit year on year instead of being happy with what they're making. This is the problem with 'professional' management who are just hired guns looking for a quick buck rather than long-term steady profits.

[@ChineduOpara]

I would go one step further and say that the problem is the need for constant growth. Eternal growth. Forever growth. It's just not sustainable.

[@Omnywrench]

And that's why you got companies that lay off huge swaths of workers to increase profits, which is lik sawing your legs off and saying you lost weight

[@lostbutfreesoul]

Welcome to 'make the shareholders happy' economics. If more companies realized stocks are really 'loans you are forever paying back' they would hate the idea of making the Loan Shark happier. Alas a company doesn't make it's own decisions, a human enriching itself off the company does. Those same people are the ones offering the 'loans,' while claiming the 'pay back price going up is a good thing.' For a company doesn't want to pay out royalties and dividends forever, does it? Eventually it has to buy-back at a higher price, paying off that expensive loan....

[@MtyEJQuinn]

you kind of have to, just for inflation

[@tangydiesel1886]

​@Omnywrench that's how the railroad is being ran. Instead of being competitive in price or investing into more markets or better service, they're just slashing costs by cutting personnel, decreasing maintenence, and dropping routes that make some profit because they don't make great profit. Why run in a way to make good steady income in 10 years when you can just sell stuff to make a good looking qtr.

[@Electric0eye]

There's no such thing as infinite growth in any industry, a child could tell you that. But these companies, the people in them, they don't think like that. They can't think like that. So they'll fail, and wonder what went wrong.

[@MafiosoDon21]

Exactly delusional shareholders

[@JonatasAdoM]

I saw a video from someone with a diploma saying that different of the past, infinite growth was possible. It wasn't a zero sum game anymore, you could grow exponentially without consequences. I honestly could not believe what I was watching. How can someone reach such an illogical conclusion.

[@kenpanderz]

and thats terrifying considering that infinite growth is the process of profit, and since capitalism relies on infinite growth/profit as its main fundamental feature, you can guess what the real problem is here

[@adeleinetheartist8267]

​@@kenpanderz fuck capitalism

[@adeleinetheartist8267]

​@@kenpanderz fuck capitalism

[@phnexOice]

This is a microcosm of the fact that every single “disrupter” that’s popped up since the late 2000s early 2010s had simply just shifted to being the things they were originally disrupting

[@kylewatson4193]

Capitalism truly breeds innovation

[@-haclong2366]

Mostly due to copyright laws and other intellectual property laws. The government imposes way too many artificial monopolies that hamper any actual innovation.

[@justinweber4977]

Reintroducing competition seems an excellent idea

[@skinwalker69420]

@@kylewatson4193 it can, it's just that most people in charge don't.

[@slyseal2091]

Steam is still holding a soft monopoly on PC distribution, but they aren't exactly the topic of the video.

[@agent74113]

who else remembers Netflix circa 2008 when they had EVERYONE'S content on there?

[@sandran17]

It used to be so good.

[@augustgreig9420]

I just don't understand you people.... There are a million sites you can go to right now and stream anything you want to see for free. It's literally better than it's ever been, you don't even need to download or torrent anything if you don't want to. Why people pay for streaming is beyond me.

[@neoasura]

Yes! Had they stuck with that model, and didn't delete anything. I would gladly pay big money per month. But, as soon as they deleted a show I used to watch, I stopped using them, that was over 12 years ago. I haven't gave them a dime since.

[@JamEngulfer]

@@neoasuraThat’s not Netflix’s fault, that’s on the content owner looking for more money by selling their rights to a different platform.

[@Kodeb8]

Those were the glory days. Netflix was 8/mo and it co-existed with cable. TV shows still premiered on cable but would get put on Netflix a few months later where you could rewatch them. Honestly, that was the peak of television.

[@TheRedCap]

"The alternative is you can't watch anything" No. The alternative is Piracy.

[@TheGameDomeGuy]

well yeah our boi here is kinda a turbo boomer with certain topics. like he legit suggests DVD's in this day and age

[@MermaidTyrone]

Sure but the content you and I pirate has to be produced somehow, it doesn't come from the aether. If the companies that produce movies and show go bankrupt, which at this rate they are, there's gonna be nothing left to pirate.

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

Laughs in 10tb of pirated documentaries, media, books, tv shows and movies I have every show, book and movie i've ever enjoyed (and bought) in 1080p or higher with my countries subs backed up with RAID in an old PC custom build for the purpose, kind of needless when good pirate streaming sites exists but I like to be sure, I have some old documentaries native to my country that doesn't exist anywhere on any site since they are so obscure.

[@Wtfevenisthepointofus]

@@MermaidTyrone So they should stop offering terrible, expensive services so we can give them our money again.

[@TheRedCap]

@@MermaidTyrone Then they should treat their customers better and offer better pricing for their services or allow the individual purchase of seasons/movies. I will not be paying cable pricing for my media, period. Whether I get it via piracy or reasonably-priced streaming or individually purchased seasons/movies, I will be watching it. Whether they get my money _to_ watch it depends on if their pricing is reasonable (if they even offer it at all, the first 12 seasons of a show I'm watching isn't available anywhere, I'm being forced to pirate or buy secondhand (neither of which benefit the property holder) if I want to watch those in particular.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell." - Edward Abbey

[@WKnudsen713]

Aaaaand we're right back to cable and network TV

[@samuel-wankenobi]

And this is why I still buy things on Blu-ray

[@KKBash]

@@samuel-wankenobiNobody gets me but you.

[@ChineduOpara]

​@KKBash I buy discs too! 😁👍🏽

[@Ozzianman]

@@samuel-wankenobi Same. If I really want something, i'll buy the blu-ray and rip it for convenient access from my NAS.

[@Matazuma]

Time is a flat circle

[@gregorymirabella1423]

it's kinda poetic how we've come full circle on this. it shows that the laws of this world always flow the same way. whether that's a good thing or not is for you to decide, but personally i'm following the golden rule when it comes to watching anything: if buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing.

[@elliotoliver8679]

Good point

[@JonatasAdoM]

It is the same how the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. There will always be a leader too.

[@GNSTCDRD]

Pirate the mainstream. Support indie creators and developers. This is the way.

[@chiquita683]

Who watches indie lol

[@stupideditcentral5485]

Imma be honest, the yt kids content farms ruined TADC for me.

[@imapmpkn]

​@chiquita683 indie literally the things that saving the drought of content in media rn lol

[@JuanFernandes-hj6rd]

@@chiquita683 I read fanfiction, watch non USA films and television made with a fraction of the budget of hollywood, and play indie games, so i must count.

[@Ubersnuber]

Which will lead corpos to don the indie hat and make it difficult for the consumer to distinguish if the property is indie or not.

[@TheGameDomeGuy]

you know this kinda stuff makes me glad you have a track record of making like 85% wrong predictions

[@DarthEstebanMontoya]

Sadly, I don't think this is one of those times.

[@Victor-el3ul]

But honestly, the 15% KnowledgeHusk is right about are not the funniest.

[@SpacedOutEyes]

Lmaoooo

[@NoName-rl3fh]

​@@DarthEstebanMontoyapeople vote with their dollars. Doubly so under bidenomics.

[@christopherscott1336]

I think he might be on the money here. It's how cable came to be, after all

[@lordodysseus]

These companies need a reality check. If they don't change tactics, if they don't expect loss and only want infinite growth, they're gonna go bankrupt and they'll deserve it

[@NoName-rl3fh]

Indeed tard brands like disney nbc and cbs do. Cnn already got a reality check they Really Hope people forget.

[@SCIFIguy64]

2big2fail 🤡

[@christiandauz3742]

We should hack them and give their wealth to Ukraine!

[@tangydiesel1886]

When your board's incentives are either pay on increase of stock value, or pay a cash "parachute" when you crash and burn, that's how they'll operate. Nobody wants to run a company as a steady operation.

[@Shmidershmax]

Once a company goes public infinite growth is pretty much mandatory. Capitalism is broken and everything is going to crash and burn at some point. Nobody can afford anything anymore

[@brentboymebob8754]

"Streaming becoming cable" is an even worse thought to comprehend, because at least cable was decentralized or fragmented amongst other providers for the same content. I can't fathom if streaming eventually boils down to one singular expensive monolith with all of these massive corporations on deck profiting from it, let alone the ones also producing and publishing this content directly. That would be the worst kind of monopoly.

[@darksidegryphon5393]

It would be a cartel.

[@neoasura]

Even if its a monolith, they still have to compete for views. There are other hobbies, and I've found myself doing a lot more outdoors stuff like hiking, bird watching, identifying various plants and animals where I live.

[@TomPVideo]

That's the problem though: you capture your current audience at a high price with cultural relevance, but at the expense of alienating the next generation. Harley Davidson is a good case study in this. For streaming services, the direct competitor is something like Twitch, Tik-Toc and KZbin: user generated content on either ad-supported or paid platforms. Costs the same from a data center point of view, but little to no content creation costs.

[@kosmosXcannon]

@@TomPVideo I keep hearing that KZbin is trying to get rid of the smaller channels by simply recommending their preferred channels more often. Mostly because KZbin also wants to become something like cable. In a sense, I can believe it. Look at how they enforce some of their polices, some creators can do something that can risk their channel getting deleted, while they turn a blind eye to others. SSSniperwolf doxxing Jacksfilms is one example.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

The thing that pisses me off is that so many shows got pulled off of cable for network-owned exclusive streaming services. Food Network revived Good Eats only to make it a Paramount+ ONLY show. After they had announced it would be on their premium cable Cooking Channel block, which they rescinded.

[@the_cyberchill]

The worst part of all of this is the graveyard of digital only media that never gets a physical release, and thats removed from you digital library at the whim of the creator after you "purchased" it because in article 200000 of the tos it says that when they mean purchase they mean extended rental, it's why I try to be a good little consumer and get what physical releases I can, but when new prints are not made, when entropy sets in, there is but one method of media preservation left.

[@amandag4556]

Cable companies got greedy. My dad said when he signed up for cable there were no comercials, u were paying to watch commercial free. Streamings companies seem to be following this path. Wish monopolies werent so rampant. It would solve a lot of issues

[@Holesale00]

As a kid the the only time i remember something being uninterrupted by commercials was catching the odd movie on HBO, VHS or DVD movie. I still remember watching entire movies without any breaks and being like wow i got to appreciate that so much more than if tried watching it on another channel chopped up to have as many commercial breaks as possible.

[@ThirtytwoJ]

Or that companies were satisfied with fixed profits and long term relevance. Most of the best shows were beat down constantly by the boards and vampiring off the talent.

[@andygoody2599]

Cable always has commercials. Maybe different amounts in different years or channels, but since the first year it was there it had ads.

[@kedrprao]

Everyone is greedy and capitalism promotes such behavior. its ridiculous

[@legateelizabeth]

You say this os the fault of monopolies, but the opposite is kind of true. Back when Netflix was the only real streaming service and had everyone’s stuff, things were better. These other services aren’t competing with a better service, they’re competing by just depriving the competition of product. It’s like Steam now competing with other gaming platforms. GoG is fine, they provide a focus on retro games, different service. Everything else is just corporate interference that ruins the good times of the GoG/Steam duopoly.

[@TheErikjsm]

streaming has looped back around to standard tv pretty much. it was neat when most shows were on netflix thats streaming at its peak

[@NoName-rl3fh]

Most still are.

[@potatonite2340]

@@NoName-rl3fh if you live in 2015, maybe.

[@Gandhi_Physique]

Only good monopoly there was, rip

[@augustgreig9420]

I just don't understand you people.... There are a million sites you can go to right now and stream anything you want to see for free. It's literally better than it's ever been, you don't even need to download or torrent anything if you don't want to. Why people pay for streaming is beyond me.

[@kosmosXcannon]

@@Gandhi_Physique There is Steam for gaming. They are probably only good to their customers because they are not publicly traded. So they don't always have to make the line go up because they know there is a natural cycle to doing business.

[@manifestationnation]

Pirate everything, use adblock on everything, regret nothing. I'm not even trying to morally justify it either. I just don't care, and I wouldn't have paid for any of it in the first place.

[@neoasura]

FInally, someone who speaks my language. I've been doing all of that for the past 20 years. The amount of money I saved in all that time literally allowed me to pay off my house.

[@mrbisshie]

Way ahead of you. lol

[@mikepalmieri4989]

No one got rich being honest am I right lads?

[@eXtremeAzureProductions]

If everyone followed that line of thinking, there wouldn't be much media to pirate in the first place since they're not free to produce. I'm not saying these prices aren't absurd, but saying "I wouldn't have paid for it anyway" while still reaping the benefit of enjoying the product doesn't really add up.

[@manifestationnation]

@@eXtremeAzureProductions I know it doesn't add up, what I'm saying is I don't care. I'm either watching for free or I'm not watching at all. Regardless of circumstances, or consequences.

[@Thomas-v9n8k]

Piracy is based

[@fort809]

Right, this entire idea falls apart when you consider piracy. People don’t pay $20/month for Netflix because they HAVE to, they pay $20 because it’s more convenient than pirating the shows instead. If Netflix was $50, that changes

[@sethgaston8347]

@@fort809 I doubt that. For young people who are decently tech savvy, absolutely. But for parents and retirees and such; I think they’d just take the price hike on the chin. I could see them paying $100 to avoid having to deal with the nonstop pop ups of stream pirating or they’d fold to the threats from their service provider if they get caught torrenting.

[@user-xp8nq5mf9y]

Morally right.

[@iwantanxbox8765]

No it’s fkn not, if people don’t get money for the shit they make they won’t make more

[@NoName-rl3fh]

No it isn't. It is fakewoke. Buying only what you use like His example is Based. Reading is based. Using what he proposes because it literally already exists (Tubi, Crackle, Popcornflix, Redbox etc) is based.

[@KingOfMadCows]

The old advertising model doesn't quite work the same with streaming. With linear TV, shows were aired on a schedule. So people had to intentionally make the time to watch a show. Popular shows had a more attentive audience. People were more likely to sit through the ads since they've already made time to watch that specific show and they don't know when the commercial break will end. With streaming, people can just put stuff on the background any time they want. They're not paying as much attention, the ads are just background noise. The ads are not worth anything if no one notices them.

[@simonoliver4751]

REMEMBER: Your local library offers FREE streaming and FREE movie rentals

[@dpgreene]

I’m literally back to getting (almost) any movie I want on DVD from the library system.

[@andrewk.7498]

For now

[@papasivir4241]

That's pretty much what I'm considering doing. I got a Blu-ray player for my iMac M3 and I'm just going to get the movies I like physically.

[@idehogo3969]

Not mine sadly

[@cstephen98]

Cable was great until corporate greed killed it. Same decisions being made by corporations are doing the same to streaming. With amalgamation they're going right back to the cable model. Cheaper to buy a vpn and download again. Haven't done it for years but the companies are making it an attractive option again.

[@Electric0eye]

This is how it is. Companies don't like to think of piracy as competition but it is. Pirating is a pain so most people won't do it if your service isn't god awful. I think it's gonna be more than worth it pretty soon.

[@Aiuto-vk5tq]

@@Electric0eye Honestly nearly every piracy site I use has a much better user experience than amazon or disney and with ads within something I already pay for I rather go to the non-offical sites lol

[@JonatasAdoM]

WOW, I wrote a succint comment and when I clicked on the box it all disappeared.

[@papasivir4241]

​@@JonatasAdoMthat happens to me all the time.

[@eneco3965]

Why do you even need a vpn?

[@maxy073]

im glad I still have a bunch of Blu-rays and dvd's, pay one time fee each time and watch it offline whenever I want without ads :)

[@deadturret4049]

Except for the blurays that had ad streaming. Thats a real thing. If your bluray player is hooked up to wifi, some blurays will stream ads from their respective publishers. Usually its just off to the side as a bonus feature and not during the actual film though.

[@NoName-rl3fh]

Based

[@NoName-rl3fh]

​@@deadturret4049I have a bunch of blurays and Never had that. They had Extra online connected features, yes. Totally different. Also connecting them at all is 100% optional so all that is moot.

[@sgtkasi]

Disk rot go brrrrrrrrrrrr

[@theactualtsl]

@@sgtkasi how many discs do you own that have rotted?

[@LordBitememan]

The lament of the cord cutter: "I ditched my cable because I'm not paying for a bunch of stuff I don't want to watch." *scrolls through program after program on their streaming service that they're not going to watch but they have very much paid for*

[@PessimistPirate]

People like to assume that these corporations are against each other, but a lot of the times, they’re in it together against YOU, the consumer.

[@thesquirrelisking]

The eyepatch, boat and parrot are a significant investment I won't lie, but overall the savings are quite good...

[@baum6721]

All these media companies are forgetting that the generation that's going to be keeping them alive (Millennials) is the one that has proven time and time again that we have ZERO issues with pirating if need be.

[@Kodeb8]

One day we might even get a feature where we have a scheduled live stream of different shows and movies, that way we solve the problem of scrolling through Netflix and not being able to decide what to watch. Those live streams could be separated by genres and have ads in-between episodes. We might even get shows that release the newest episode live so everyone can watch it simultaneously.

[@papasivir4241]

Funnily enough, this already exists on Google TV LOL I got a Chromecast and there's free live stream channels on the front page LOL

[@PuertoRicanRattlesnake]

The moral is that they’re doing everything in their power to bring back the cable model without any of the stuff that actually made it sustainable

[@jeffparker2369]

I’ve got really into physical media, I really just hate having to risk stuff disappearing

[@TheDeadAlewives]

Yeah, over the last couple of years I've bought a few of my favorite shows and movies on physical media since more and more things are being removed from streaming.

[@johngddr5288]

Guys, the best alternative is to just buy Dvds and Blurays. Fuck these streaming companies

[@DokeyM]

buddy doesnt know the actual best alternative

[@pierrotA]

Yeah almost impossible to find DVDs that cost $25 and still have included ads is the best solution, obviously... if I want to watch 3saisons of an old serie I just have to pay $100 to $150 for the DVD collection, do not see any problem here.

[@bradbradson4543]

Noooooooooooo

[@joebidenVEVO]

dvds are way too expensive, especially for shows the office is like $80 and how often are you going to watch the whole thing over again anyways perhaps.... we must start renting?

[@jer1776]

2nd best alternative you mean

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

The more I think about it, the more I realise that capital gains taxes need to be seriously adjusted. A huge part of the reason that investors want growth is because of discounts on the tax rates for capital gains when compared to conventional income (which includes dividends). That means that investors make more money if the share price goes up than they do if the same amount is paid out as a dividend, which means that turning a true profit is ironically a bad thing. That's a deliberate choice to motivate investment and growth in the economy at large because at the time growth was beneficial, but these days with hyper large businesses dominating the global economy there's no where for them to realistically grow into without causing serious problems like increasing monopolization and increasing unilateral corporate control over large parts of the global economy. They're also more dependent on *apparent* growth - the share price is supposed to reflect some platonic ideal of the true value of the company, but it's really only determined by supply and demand, and demand is nowhere near as rational as most economists would like to believe so it can be "grown" by giving the appearance of success instead of actual success. The fact that capital gains tax discounts disproportionately benefit the ultra wealthy and reducing them would amount to a tax on high wealth is just icing on the cake

[@totallyrealcat4800]

That point about sports is what happened to me. I'm gen z and I don't watch sports related media because it's too expensive, and I don't know which sports I like to watch because I haven't seen a lot of games

[@bleankdallas2924]

Eeyah! Umm, there’s KZbin. Games don’t have to be seen live.

[@papasivir4241]

I was interested in getting into UFC and WWE but realizing I have to pay a subscription just to see if I like it I just decided to keep playing the games LOL

[@papasivir4241]

​@@bleankdallas2924they usually only show really old games. In the UFC especially they literally only show old undercards for free on KZbin and you still have to pay for an ESPN subscription to get anything worth watching.

[@santoast24]

DVD's and High Seas tomfoolery are the future and you cannot change my mind

[@cjeffcoatjr]

11:28 Man, this example is so painful. My roommate and I eagerly binged the first part of Stone Ocean when it dropped, and we were excited to watch the rest. Then, a year and a half later, we remembered that the rest of Stone Ocean was probably out by then... Netflix really found the best way to kill organic hype. It's almost impressive. I just hope everyone involved learned their lesson for Steel Ball Run.

[@andythedishwasher1117]

Thanks to folks like you, I get most of my entertainment on KZbin, so while I find these patterns very unfortunate, I don't feel super affected by them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and pictures for free. They're more interesting than what most Hollywood writers shit out these days.

[@don2nd650]

I feel That

[@1378N]

4:48 Disney is reportedly considering creating an ad-supported television streaming model similar to Tubi and Pluto TV.

[@yaniv_akrish]

00:18 I remember having this DVD of the cars move and watching it many times, and this manu just gave me a feeling of nostalgia, as it reminded me of times when my mom used to play this movie for me.

[@gabe-dub]

When streaming services arrived I almost brought my piracy consumption to zero, now I cancelled all my subscriptions and back to the torrents

[@onemorechris]

when i was at uni we didn’t have a tv. we didn’t need one because we were partying all the time. but i never went back to watching live tv like i had done with my family growing up. if this kind of thing happens a lot, gen-z are never going to use a streaming service paid for or otherwise

[@cstephen98]

That's why I'm slowly pulling away from streaming as it becomes as bad as cable. Every change to 'monitize' the services, only devalues them (while they simultaneous charge more and more for less). Companies think we still live in the age of limitless growth but that's hard to do as demographics are beginning to crash. Dropping Netflix this month after being with them since they were a DVD service. Might resubscribe for a show but won't be staying with them long term as they no longer provide enough value. But it's only entertainment, not anything I need to have.

[@augustgreig9420]

I just don't understand you people.... There are a million sites you can go to right now and stream anything you want to see for free. It's literally better than it's ever been, you don't even need to download or torrent anything if you don't want to. Why people pay for streaming is beyond me.

[@Immudzen]

I started subscribing back in the DVD rental days also and I cancelled my subscription a few months ago. I just went back to buying bluray and dvd. At least then I own my content and I can watch it whenever I want. There are so many shows that just vanished off streaming services. Not just Netflix but stuff that can't be found on any of them anymore.

[@Cantimule]

The social aspect of TV is what streaming services sorely lack. Having a bunch of premieres come up Friday nights with everyone watching at the same time and then gabbing about it the next day... Make TV an event, again!

[@MustraOrdo]

This, the KZbin channel Donna has a video on this exact situation. The social aspect of watching tv is what these greedy companies sorely take for granted.

[@TheSavageThanos]

This is what keeps theaters going moderately well also. Being able to see a movie and talk about it the weekend it debuts is still a draw because it's usually at least a couple days before decent bootlegs start hitting online.

[@miguelpadeiro762]

Can't even talk about the show with friends unless a. you all binged it or b. you don't care for spoilers (which I don't get how).

[@Immudzen]

TV as an event is never going to happen again. Too many people are not willing to schedule their lives around TV schedules anymore. There is also so much content to watch that not enough people watch any given show. Back in the days of the 4 major networks on TV shows would be watch by 20-40% of the country, now even the biggest shows don't crack 5%.

[@MustraOrdo]

@@Immudzen yep, too many shows, too little time

[@Amoeba26]

I pirate and buy DVDs, even VHS tapes and people look at me like I'm crazy for not streaming.

[@MistaWells]

the day i have to pay $50-$100 a month just to have access to youtube is the day i drop everything and become a hermit.

[@peterroberts4415]

Internet is $50 a month...so you already are

[@MistaWells]

@@peterroberts4415 i was referring to bundled subscriptions not the internet access, though, to your credit, they are becoming one in the same.

[@Drewcardello]

Not if you browse with the internet at McDonalds.

[@MistaWells]

@@peterroberts4415 on top of my Internet. You knew what I meant

[@eneco3965]

​@@peterroberts4415It's 50 a month for you, not everyone

[@KingUnKaged]

As a lifelong pirate I'm glad that I never got on this crazy ride

[@eneco3965]

BASED

[@kingnekogon]

"can't watch tv anymore" *sea shanty volume INTENSIFIES*

[@mtpender69]

🎶Yo! Ho! All hands, hoist the colours high!🎶

[@The_gaming_gazimon]

remember when buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

Very original comment

[@miguelpadeiro762]

@@technobladeleakedclips1827 This isn't an originality contest, if a message is true and isn't prevalent enough, then let it be repeated a thousand times.

[@GeneralForster]

@@technobladeleakedclips1827 Very good, you get extra bug rations this week

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

@@GeneralForster cringe ass vg fanboy

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

@@GeneralForster maybe grow up and stop playing video games and this wont even matter 🤣 this is only a problem for manchildren

[@deadturret4049]

You know its bad the old model for cable sounds way better than modern streaming

[@NoName-rl3fh]

It isn't. Cable is a joke

[@augustgreig9420]

I just don't understand you people.... There are a million sites you can go to right now and stream anything you want to see for free. It's literally better than it's ever been, you don't even need to download or torrent anything if you don't want to. Why people pay for streaming is beyond me.

[@Ijustusethistocommentstuff]

both are just as bad. Both have the problem of "paying for something that may or may not be what you want, but having FOMO to keep going." Like, I hate netflix, but there are shows I still REALLY want to watch on there, like Delicious in Dungeon, Pluto, etc., plus a couple of other stuff. You can cancel the subscription, but "what if a show you REALLY want to watch on there shows up? Maybe you should keep going."

[@Violethill25]

As someone who works for local ISPs. Video service (cable) has been sunsetting completely due to it being to costly and the only people who pay for it are older/elderly people. Most times now they offering bundling streaming services unironically.

[@abcde6081]

All the media anyone could ever want is just available for free on websites with better layouts and more options than any streaming service. The only thing that would get me, and I suspect many others, to buy non physical media is if there was a service exactly like steam but for movies and TV shows, with profiles, libraries, levels, events, sales, etc. At that point might as well just integrate it directly into steam, make it "steam cinema" or something. It's an impossible pipe dream I know, but its the only type of "streaming service" I could see working, plus it would force Hollywood to be meritocratic again. Until that day i'll stick to having everything I want for free, and all the stuff I really like on my bookshelf.

[@johncasey5594]

Pirating content to a media server, that you diligently backup, is the best of all... hands down. Physical media takes up space, there is inventorying, dusting, loaned media can be lost, etc. If you have to move, well that's a joy. If you are sitting comfy in your bed and you want to watch something else, you have to get up, go to your media room, put the current disc back, find the new media, go back to your room, put it in and then find that comfy spot again. Streaming is garbage as they always remove content randomly, censor content, if the Internet is down, you are screwed, etc. I can from the comfort of my bed, switch between any movie, TV series, music track, any emulated game, KZbin, etc. It is perfection.

[@mr.goodboi2780]

You're pretty much right. I'm not sure about 20-26 episode seasons again, but a middle ground of 10-16 I think is acceptable. If you did two batches of 7-8 a year like South park and The Walking Dead used to do it feels like a full season. Air them weekly, take advantage of a yearly schedule by switching shows out when their seasons end, etc. Rinse. Repeat. They need to just make digital cable. Someone else said it underneath in the comments that they miss just throwing stuff on and watching at a certain time. I agree. Make it free, bypass the cable companies, put a fuckload of ads in. People are going to need to get used to ads, they are never going away. Something has to pay for your show.

[@code4chaosmobile]

Great video and thank you for all the effort. I worked for a medium sized cable company for over a dozen years and left in the waning years of expecting a profit form residential video sector. You bring up a good point, and it's the business model's fault. This expectation for a business to keep the growth and profit after reaching saturation is fundamentally flawed. There should be something to transition that existing business model to something like, phase 2 - retention, or some clap trap like that. Maybe tax incentives, like selling the parts back to the communities and turning into a utility where it's just pay local workers well and maintain the established hardware. granted this would mostly apply to the decay corp's (get it) of the cable companies that carved this country up decades back. this endless profit and growth is ultimately unsustainable and an unrealistic expectation and maybe it's time for a larger conversation. just a random thought. keep up the great videos, you rule and conquer

[@Calebgoblin]

"So how do we fix this?" Me: "Just stop being greedy? The companies: "literally Anything but that"

[@evilestbadger9417]

I remember when all these streaming services started booming, and I kept telling people it would just become a more expensive version of cable. Now I'm not sure if it'll exactly be more expensive, but the longer it all goes on, the closer and closer this comes to being true. Not gonna say "hey I called it" but, yeah, I kinda called it. The only real plus to it all is the instant gratification of picking what to watch instead of waiting for it to come on the air.

[@chickenbonelives]

I wouldn't pay $5 a month for a streaming service. I've lived my whole life without paying for tv and I will not start now.

[@Spawn-td8bf]

I've been accused of being stuck in the dark ages, which I am absolutely happy with, but I still use an antenna. 30+ FREE channels. And yes, DVD's. Heck I still have and watch VHS. I and my wallet LOVE " The Dark Ages".

[@akramgimmini8165]

The Silver Pirate age has begun

[@helmetfire5973]

I accept the alternate. No more TV.

[@MrNobody-xb4uc]

Truly based. I 100% support this.

[@RegalPixelKing]

Honestly if Steaming services do raise their pricing to something crazy like 100 dollars a month, instead I'll just pirate everything, it will be so much cheaper and easier if that were the case.

[@kagephenex]

Jojo mention! Netflix really just cut any sort of discussion for Stone Ocean due to the way they released the episodes

[@FoolsGil]

If it gets too crazy I'll probably start going to the movie theater and buying blue ray and reading books. Alot of my childhood was like that

[@SharpWits2013]

Already doing that. Got a 5TB harddrive coming in the mail I'm gonna fill with movies I pick up from garage sales and Goodwill and whatnot.

[@augustgreig9420]

I just don't understand you people.... There are a million sites you can go to right now and stream anything you want to see for free. It's literally better than it's ever been, you don't even need to download or torrent anything if you don't want to. Why people pay for streaming is beyond me.

[@PapaJohnsPie]

Moral of the video: Matlock has a dvd box set

[@thegrimadvocate]

I think that another side of this conversation that you get close to but don't say out loud is how much these streaming services would try and give all at once for programming choices. Back in the day, it was a blend of movie genres for players like Netflix. Now, they have anime, reality shows, documentaries, tv dramas, kids programming, sitcoms, and everything in between, and they offer it for $18/month. The Max/Discovery merger that happened, for example: I wasn't going to watch HGTV programming to begin with if I got HBO for movies and specific shows, but they forced it into the programming, all while taking away other areas of programming for licensing reasons. And because they have to spread their tastes so thin to cover a large base, either the programming suffers, or the wallets suffer. Streaming is no longer a la carte with its programming, so it was basically already gearing up to be like cable, except dumpier and cheaper. Now it's just completing the loop.

[@ivomeesters2870]

Just watched several videos and you got my subrisbtion because of 3 reasons! 1. Contemt is funny, on topic and good 2. Love the cat image 3. Forementioned cat has better ideas than leaders of multi bilion dollar coorporations

[@Too.Busy.Living]

I know families that share all the streaming services, so they’re basically already doing this, as long as password sharing stays a thing

[@totoroben]

Netflix has started cracking down on password sharing and other companies are planning on it too. This includes tracking device IP addresses.

[@joebidenVEVO]

@@totoroben everyone going to be installing hamachi again

[@niceleverace]

If I had to pay $100 for any streaming service I will just pirate, I can't afford that man.

[@goldengriffon]

The next step: "Oh, you want the bundle of the top 5 streaming platforms for only $40 a month? Minimum 6 month contract required."

[@Tiwill]

All I really do is play games and then go on youtube when I gotta eat, so even if all of these renting services were free, I still wouldn't use them because I don't care about the content at all. So it's kinda fun to watch it all unfold, since I don't care about the outcome either way. But let me put it this way, there's no way I'd pay 100 bucks to rent video games for 30 days. So imagine how I feel about doing that for passive entertainment. Like bro, you can buy so many bagels with that.

[@mronewheeler]

Yarrrr, people be looking for treasure in the wrong spot

[@jlshootingstar333]

I was just about to say it's just turning into cable again. Time is a flat circle.

[@KamepinUA]

Holy Shit Scott The Woz

[@Percformysoul]

I was so confused when I read this while watching the video and then he showed up not 2 seconds later holy shit

[@ryanrockers]

Mrs. Simpson, don't you worry. I watched Matlock in a bar last night. The sound wasn't on, but I think I got the gist of it.

[@Immudzen]

I gave up on streaming. I just use dvd and bluray discs and store them on my personal server. The prices keep going up and the content keeps going down. Lots of content has vanished so that companies don't have to compete with their old shows.

[@andygoody2599]

5:00 We forget that old network TV had maxed out the market. Before the internet was invented every single person had a TV and could watch any show on network TV anytime they wanted. Static profits, zero churn, max market saturation.

[@Mihomiti]

*sips from a world where I watch zero streaming services*

[@glorbojibbins2485]

Did you know that back in the day all you had to do was buy a dish 📡 to get every and any channel a available in your area... It was some years later you had to start subscribing to different channels and paying for them separately and theeeeen after that they started doing bundles of channels... Same with Cable im pretty sure. Ive seen this coming a mile off. Its just the same thing over and over again.

[@Count_Smackula]

I've already noped TF out of pay-to-watch media. I bailed on that sh!t a decade ago. If I'm desperate for full-featured 4k entertainment, there are *Free* DVD movies available from the library. Otherwise, I'll sail the seas to get my entertainment fix.

[@E1T9H9A8N]

The only real difference between streaming and cable is I don't have to wait for a certain time block to watch a certain show, (talking about re-runs) or get lucky that they are playing my favorite episode at 4pm. I can pick what I want when I want.

[@Jolfgard]

10:30 Thanks for trying to repackage and resell me cable TV like it's the 1960s. I must respectlessly decline.

[@nerdman127]

Network TV to hollywood- "you could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me."

[@cnlbenmc]

So your solution is how Anime gets streamed but with a midroll ad at.the halfway point of the episode?

[@xcom_rx7241]

Next episode the PS5 it was shut off from playing PS3 games This thing cannot handle burnout Paradise

[@cruye9633]

"The alternative is you just cant watch TV anymore" Oh.... no.... what ever shall I do....

[@sDuAvTaTjAe]

There didn't exist a certain website back in the days of cable

[@moonshinei]

shit I don’t even pay for streaming now, idk why anyone would if it was $100

[@augustgreig9420]

I just don't understand people.... There are a million sites you can go to right now and stream anything you want to see for free. It's literally better than it's ever been, you don't even need to download or torrent anything if you don't want to. Why people pay for streaming is beyond me.

[@staven512]

I accomplished some growth recently too, Mr Wallstreet. Personal growth, I setup a NAS, VPN, and uh - sources.

[@_mako]

always found it weird why there isnt a youtube for tv shows

[@OldnGold]

Why would I need streaming when I can buy a lightly-used copy of Frozen 5: Return of the Frozen from behind the local Shell gas station.

[@morgan-sk-4499]

I canceled Netflix, Disney+ and HBO some time ago and I don’t feel that I’m missing out on something. Movies and shows are rarely good enough to be worth paying in these days.

[@baronvonjo1929]

Everything gets worse. Games, cars, build quality, homes, prices, quality of life, shows, appliances, just everything. Every year the bar is lowered. Every metric I can think of. Its funny how I never experienced anything getting better. Honestly whats the point?

[@LOBricksAndSecrets]

Gotta love that, before this video, I got an ad for a streaming service

[@HenryArevalo-dj4ze]

IM SAILING THE HIGH SEAS, BABY

[@losfogo7149]

I'm 24 but i feel old remembering when F1 and MotoGP were on national TV here and also big sporting events

[@oneuptheextraman]

Yeah, I buy my shows on DVD now, and dump and encode them for personal viewing. I subscribe to hulu, but that is mostly for the GF. We watch a few things together, but mostly she watches stuff.

[@zekeiyf2003]

What they'll may try to do is contract service, you sign a contract to use the service and pay money at a "fixed" rate, this is what cable networks did, and they'll offer special deals to those not using the service to draw new customers while upping the price on current users on renewed contracts. Cable is returning more or less.

[@yetanotheruser1989]

Yeah, basically a 'cable on demand' system. Me? I'm going back to DVDs and Freeview. Screw it. Contemporary TV is shite anyway.

[@green_arr0w84]

I've been thinking the same. We migrated from telly to subscription streaming to avoid ads, but it's not a very profitable model. As a result, we're going full circle and reinventing cable TV. Same thing with Lyft reinventing the bus