George RR Martin on People Harassing Him For Not Writing

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[@sonyabadass]

Fun fact: the person who buy GOT first book in their 20s, now they're 50 yearsold

[@LordSathar]

I discovered the series when i was in college, i'm 47 now.

[@sosig6445]

@@LordSathar "iMpAtIeNt FaNs"

[@MsJavaWolf]

@Pennycost Stinksalot Ned Stark is seen as a kind of father figure but you are now 6 years older than he was.

[@Ebotchl23]

My mom bought it on a whim the year it came out and yeah you're right, she's gonna be 50 this year.

[@haydeng3316]

Didn't the first book come out in 96? That's 24 years, not quite 30

[@CaleebTalib]

I just want him to finish them before he gets too old. I can wait forever but I don’t want him to lose his mental state or some sudden health issue that can affect his ability to finish them. The biggest tragedy in literature would be if he didn’t finish this series.

[@matjohnson6870]

He has other people set up to finish them if he does die I believe

[@alialmuhanna4938]

Mat Johnson Even so, I would say that if George didn’t write it, then it’s not ASOIAF.

[@RedVelvetBlackleather]

Caleb Cox I wouldn’t say a tragedy to literature. GoT equates too: we all hate each other, but we all have a common enemy. GRRM is a atheist boy who thinks global warming is the worst thing ever and GoT is basically that fear mix with a juxtaposition of Tolkien writing.

[@matjohnson6870]

Decayed Knight those books got me into reading, because they’re phenomenal. Yes GRRM does allusions to global warming, but honestly he doesn’t shove it down your throat so who cares

[@matjohnson6870]

Decayed Knight also who on earth cares what religious beliefs he holds

[@Gideon_the_Seraph]

I think the Winds of Winter will come out eventually but A Dream of Spring shall remain a dream.

[@YoO161]

if he dies before he finishes it, it will probably be released anyways. just like arda- books have been released after tolkien died, even if he didnt finish them

[@Brandon-9]

@@YoO161 sad

[@Brandon-9]

@@YoO161 but understable

[@Keptaro]

@@YoO161 not to paint the devil on the wall but if so, the Finale of a song of ice and fire may be just as much a disaster as the game of thrones show.

[@YoO161]

@@Keptaro why?

[@vikorovstock2432]

This George guy is a top tier prankster. He made the protagonist house's words about winter coming and then forces the readers to wait more than a decade on a book named after winter.

[@katlamb4606]

Well Summers do last for years in Westeros.🤷‍♀️

[@carastone3473]

lololol!

[@carastone3473]

@@katlamb4606 #facts! LOL

[@chequereturned]

Decades

[@aelisif]

The Targaryens are the protagonists in his universe. I mean all novelas and other books he published were all about Targaryens. Fire and Blood Rogue Prince Knight of 7 Kingdoms Etc etc etc 😂😂😂

[@axlpuff5017]

"People were used to waiting for things back then" I can understand him saying this after a 3 or 4 year gap in between books, but it's been a decade now George, lol.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

Exactly. Ten years, and we're inpatient?

[@shinkaihosoda7261]

His first took 6 years.

[@dreamofsprings]

1st, its his books. He chooses how the books goes and when he releases them. Fans have no say in that. 2nd, in the last 11 years. He has been working on game of thrones series (the biggest tv show ever), released a book (fire and blood) worked on other tv shows. Helped right elden ring lore and world building and also writing one of the most complex books ever. He has hundreds of character and so many plot points to tie up. He could probably released it before 2015 and it would have sucked.

[@dreamofsprings]

@@ThereIsNoLord yes, yes you are. He has his life and other projects. He wants to do other things beside writing wow

[@ThereIsNoLord]

@@dreamofsprings And I want to subject him to mockery, scorn, and derision. So we can co-exist with our respective priorities.

[@katherinewinters5674]

I want him to finish before he gets too old but let's be honest, the series has gone on for 24 years, please don't wonder why people want it finished

[@exosproudmamabear558]

He is already very old if you ask me, at least he is still somewhat healthy.

[@Dev-zr8si]

@@exosproudmamabear558 He doesn't know what to do with the series anymore . Pretty sure he doesn't care either.

[@joetheonionslayer1240]

@@exosproudmamabear558 What makes you think he is somewhat healthy lol, hes obese

[@MontyQueues]

Katherine Winters do you want a rushed ending just to have an ending, that’s dumb af

[@edubvb5193]

I rather have a 30 year masterpiece than a 10 year rushed story

[@davestuddaman8127]

Impatient 😂😂 Sam’s been in old town since 2005😂😂😂

[@luciamota1249]

Damn it! That cut deep! My God... those have been 15 fucking years!

[@theboy1625]

Dave Studdaman at least he’ll have some actual credibility to being a Maester

[@davestuddaman8127]

@@theboy1625 if he’s not on city council by now, I’m gonna be pissed

[@pcl5636]

Dude that’s hilarious I literally laughed out loud ha

[@gravesidepoet5405]

Dave Studdaman at least he wasn’t on a boat

[@kaladhras]

I was on his side until he told me the reason people are impatient is because of millenials, Google, and instant gratification. It's been a quarter of a century, George.

[@flint5283]

ok snowflake

[@llufo9824]

@@flint5283 ok boomer

[@flint5283]

Llu Fo ok coomer

[@brunozavaleta4127]

Flint nice

[@JurassicLion2049]

ekmore I dont disagree with GRRM tho. We’re used to quickly recieving follow ups and constant pieces of media getting made. People forgot writers have always taken their time, lived their lives, and wrote for years.

[@Anth_71]

GoT is the reason I no longer start reading incomplete series. I don't regret the time I spent reading GoT, it was & is awesome but I'll never invest that much time again into a series of books without knowing it is finished. Nothing but respect for GRRM too.

[@marcelomeirelles6039]

I made that promise, then broke it for the kingkiller chronicle by patrick rothfuss. never. again.

[@treyrichards1244]

@@marcelomeirelles6039 same .. while it seems like TWOW will eventually be released it unfortunately is apparent that rothfuss will never finish his book

[@ry8539]

what a strange notion. I think that is almost doublethink

[@datadash8378]

This is a bit childish in my opinion, part of the human experience is looking toward the future I may not have waited as long as some of you for the next book but I appreciate the fact that I have something to look forward to. Imagine being alive when JRR Tolkien or other great writers were active. I think being alive to witness the got book series being completed should be a treat. I don’t mind GR taking a long time I just wished he took better care of himself he is a plump old man. With his finance he could easily change all his unhealthy habits and live another ten-15 healthy years.

[@zeytelaloi]

That's why there's Fanfiction. There's really, really good stories out there.

[@deadpoolregeneratedegenera1683]

I hope the reason it’s taking a decade is because he is gonna surprise us all by releasing Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring on the same day. Lotta people thinking I’m serious, so just clarifying I don’t _actually_ believe this. Still, that’d be cool, right?

[@themrmezbah]

Hehe

[@demonetizeme2826]

I remember when I still had dreams.

[@PittsburghSonido]

Demonetize Me I hated them!

[@FahimDaniel]

id nut so hard

[@LexIconLS]

@@themrmezbah This has been my secret hope for a couple of years now. I try not to get my hopes up, lol.

[@GILGAMESH069]

Most people don't seem understand how overwhelmingly hard is to write a story as grand as asoiaf

[@colinwills1235]

Its very hard to write one book, half as long as any of his series entries. There’s a reason that so few (if any) authors have taken on such an epic undertaking before.

[@JeffPenaify]

Obviously its a tall cup writing a long an epic fantasy but there's so many great authors who do it and dont get half the recognition Martin does. Steven Erickson wrote all 10 books of Malazan within like a decade, and that was even crazier feat because the world building is ridiculous. Brandon Sanderson is crushing it with Stormlight Archive and both of these are much more creative and original worlds. There's only been 1 release in a decade; that's nuts and is unheard of. Robert Jordan got shit on in his day for delaying the series and he never went so long between releases.

[@PatchesNjose]

It's been 8 years.

[@datguy3581]

Especially once his story gets so big

[@troymash8109]

@@PatchesNjose Exactly. He's lazy AF. Watch the sitdown with Stephen King and GRRM. His laziness practically seeps out the screen...

[@Ner0mancer101]

I don’t think the problem is that he takes so long the problem is that he announces deadlines for the next book that are never true and are always pushed

[@masongarrod6681]

No release date has ever been set for winds of winter

[@Ner0mancer101]

Mason Garrod look at the planned release dates for every other book and look how much they were pushed

[@Ner0mancer101]

Mason Garrod and if you search it up it literally says that TWOW was scheduled for release in fall 2018

[@lejigglyqueenteemo6029]

21st Century Schizoid Man 😭😭😭

[@EzraDair]

Who gives a shit he doesn’t owe you anything brat

[@T00THY_0RiFiCE]

I've lost count of all the interviews where he says "I should be working on the story right now"

[@Lalvon_Zelpharr]

George sure loves his interviews

[@rafnaj1]

He's just not interested. He's old, he's rich, he doesn't really have to give a fuck and it's not realistic to expect him to finish the series, or at least try to get the books out quickly, all things considered.

[@scottgrasser9475]

@@rafnaj1 bit of a dick move though to keep doing the interviews and bathing in the attention if he wants to retire more power to him i would not blame him but he should then be honest and not lead people on a string

[@richardpatterson4312]

@@scottgrasser9475 absolutely

[@KingBowserVlog]

@@scottgrasser9475 agreed. It would suck but at least be straight up

[@bobbybee2975]

I don't think of people who wait more than a decade as being impatient.

[@decoyoctopod8514]

I don’t think he was upset at fans being impatient, he’s upset at the harassment and entitlement and assumption that he’s being lazy.

[@bobbybee2975]

@@decoyoctopod8514 considering how much time he spends on side projects and how long it has been since his last main project book I think they have points and he's being entitled lol

[@NottherealLucifer]

George, I think we're well past "instant gratification" when it's been around a decade since the last book. 😂

[@milesmoose]

Preach

[@spawncampe]

"Impatient fans." Fans in their 20s: buys the first book when it came out The same fans now: nearly 50 years old or older

[@ThereIsNoLord]

He's saying "eff you" to his fans in basically no uncertain terms.

[@sherrychilds2034]

​​@@ThereIsNoLord He said that before book 4 came out, around 2003. People were impatient and asked when he was going to finish the"trilogy" that was actually a cliff hanger? I distinctly remember, he told fans to f-off, he would get to it, when he got to it. He was currently working on other projects. He again promised HBO that he would have the books finished by the time the series caught up to him. That's why the series ended so abysmally, everyone was again, disappointed. I had to reread the original books in 2005 and again in late 2010. I couldn't remember the story line. I will probably start reading the books again early next year, to refresh my memory, again.

[@Dadum-bass]

@@sherrychilds2034 I decided not to read ASOIAF until Winds was finished with a solid release date. . . .

[@sherrychilds2034]

@@Dadum-bass good plan.

[@1000g2g3g4g800999]

My introduction to ASOIAF was that it was a popular book among friends of mine in highschool, end of the 2000s to the early 2010s. A lot of fans started when it was well into the series, but yes, this book is the longest wait in the main series by no small margin.

[@BumLuck]

I try to be lenient with GRRM because I know how hard the creative process can be and how huge a project ASOIAF is ... But I really don't think it's "impatient" to expect him to have finished ONE BOOK after NINE YEARS.

[@njux1871]

If it's not impatient, it's being entitled.

[@luizmarinho6138]

@@njux1871 Again. Nine. Years.

[@robderp]

Finn's Cinema nine years, multiple promised release dates, dates being pushed back, other books being written, other projects being started, but sure it’s entitlement

[@njux1871]

@@robderp It SUCKS. Yes, it sucks. I'd love to read it too. But this man doesn't owe us anything. It hurts that it's been so fucking long, but yes, it's still entitled to freaking demand a work of an artist.

[@joetheonionslayer1240]

@@njux1871 How is it being entitled? Why do you guys constantly insist that if we dont kiss his ass 24/7 we're being "entitled".

[@PumpkinBreath]

10 years of waiting isn’t people looking for instant gratification. Its them waiting for eventual gratification.

[@Sidenonra]

A Game of Thrones (1996) A Clash of Kings (1998) A Storm of Swords (2000) A Feast for Crows (2005) A Dance with Dragons (2011)... A decade the first 4 books came out in roughly the same time

[@reek4062]

and the pacing of Feast and Dance is extremely slow

[@dericmederos1514]

He wrote himself into a hole. He planned for a 5 year gap in the books but discovered it didn't work for certain characters. The last two books show he's trying to untangle these plots and subplots and it may be impossible

[@Sidenonra]

@@dericmederos1514 And? here is the little trick he set us up with bad things happen to good people and it doesn't have to make any moral or plot logic. He could literally yada yada over five years, he chooses not to.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

writing the ending is a lot harder, specially if your style of writing is more Gardener than Architecture where you already have thought out your ending right from the start from all the many storylines that are interconnected with each other, details, foreshadowing and conspiracy theories that have to have pay offs while also making sense I mean if you've read them you know there's an enormous amount of Set Ups that now have to pay off and most of that has to happen in The Winds of Winter and with all this he's been having to deal with the show(multiple shows) and feeling burnt out and uninspired as well, so I'm not surprised at all, considering that he wants it all to end Great and not just good, he's a Perfectionist and he's paying for that and that's why I don't think the pushback does anything positive, he definitely cares about it more than we do but my whole point is that it's more complicated than most people make it out to be, some people talk about it as if he's just Lazy or he just doesn't care which I find very stupid. if he takes alternative projects when he's trying to finish Winds of Winter then that means he's pretty burnt out and his creativity is not working well and that's why he did other projects. personally I've started reading other books and there's just so many great SciFi/Fantasy Universes out there that I'm not gonna be constantly wait for it, it's not healthy to be so attached to one thing that's not coming out anytime soon.

[@TheMijoAaron]

@@Ar1AnX1x omg an actual sane human. Exactly what I was thinking. I understand I understand “ITS BEEN DECADES.” Yes I understand. But fuck have some empathy for him and don’t just assume the worst of him.

[@lilgimpboy]

instant gratification my ass. it’s been 10 years dude.

[@joshuacastelino9736]

Winds of Winter: 2022 Dream of Spring: 2029

[@debasegrog5153]

That would likely be realistic release times. I don’t know if he is going to make it to 2030 tho....

[@raffaelepiccini3405]

Yea.. that would be sad if he didn't make it..

[@crackfloor]

Facts

[@jimbotheimpaler4756]

To quote grrm 🖕🏻

[@octaviablackthorn9]

Joshua Castelino GRRM probably won’t be alive in 2030. Sad but facts. We’ll probably never see DoS

[@erickoenig9768]

I am of two minds on Martin's writing speed: writing slow has value, and good writers take their time in crafting a well-put-together story. I do not begrudge someone putting as much effort as possible into a text to make it the best possible product. I'm also not going to criticise his habit of gardening in epic fantasy. It's a perfectly valid approach to writing. However, I do take issue with just how much else he took on in the interim between 2011 and now. I get that procrastination and success based stress are things, but he took on multiple writing projects for other books and for TV. He has also finished 2 whole 700+ Page books and a number of short stories related to the ASoIaF universe in that almost 10-year time frame. That is to say nothing of his writing responsibilities for television or his producing roles. He clearly enjoys writing and writes a lot. Otherwise, we would see nothing in these last 9 years. But we have ample evidence that he doesn't always need a decade to write a story. And to me, that's frustrating. So on the one hand, sure, he needs to take his time. And especially with the last season being taken so poorly, I'm sure that has added to the stress of writing these final books. But I think there are legitimate criticisms of his writing practice to be levied against him.

[@scottgrasser9475]

i think also something frustrating is he keeps doing interviews that and not really having anything to show for them kind of comes off as him almost being spiteful like who goes in front of a crowed and announces....yea i have not really done any work this year well see you at the next interview and for the record im more a casual fan im not that upset i just can see why a lot would be

[@Dalsemien]

You can't rush inspiration. He might have been inspired to write the other books he wrote, but not the new ASoIaF.

[@samuelabbottchannel]

The thing is though he can do whatever he likes...

[@EddieMorphling]

Just wanted to add that he also worked/works with FromSoftware on their newest game Elden Ring, so he is starting to put in alot of effort in different directions while not finishing his previous work. While I honestly dont really care about A Song of Ice and Fire, I think its understandable that the fans are a little frustrated although everything that goes beyond that is obviously not justifiable.

[@Karlonstark]

@@samuelabbottchannel Yes he can, and likewise, we can criticize him for it.

[@nathangek]

Imagine buying A Dance with Dragons in 2011 and now being called impatient and snarky when you ask when the next book will be released after 9 years

[@osmya0044]

Well, youre not entitled to it. Never have been

[@padraiccrawford2786]

No but he promised it five years ago now

[@Mini-Toast_]

@@padraiccrawford2786 Okay but he's explained why it taking him this long. Im sure that with the exposure due to the television series, it has only slowed him down. So many eyes are on him, patiently and impatiently waiting for his next book. And it isn't just his next book, it is his magnum opus. Im 100% sure that he pretty much has it written out, needing tweaks here and there. But he wouldn't be smart to release it asap. It's only been 2 years since the show ended and people still remember it poorly. He would be smart to release it as late as he can. Late and discreetly as well, so he doesn't have to spend years living with scrutiny if it fails to satisfy.

[@professorsuge]

@Osmya 004 actually we are. He promised us 2 more books and we continue to fill his pockets by supporting him. The least he could do is finish something he started

[@swamidan277]

Problem is - it’s not been just one person asking. He’s probably been asked, in different ways, millions of times. All of that is overwhelming.

[@vogarro7292]

The way he wrote book 4 & 5 as separate books with events happen at the same time made the writing of TWOW more complicated.

[@rileymcphee9429]

I used to be in the "leave him alone and let him write the book properly" camp; that was five years ago.

[@armintargaryen9216]

Same! We got more character development than characters like Sansa ever will (as Winds won't come out)

[@بهشادبشردانش]

i wish he was younger and i wish he finishes this books and leave the world of asoiaf so he can create another series......

[@holysecret2]

@RABBI Shekel asshole

[@jackthegreek6092]

So can ever finish that too? No thank you.

[@Jrtekk]

@RABBI Shekel Ghostwriter?

[@denegwynn2869]

RABBI Shekel he stated that if he dies he doesn’t want anyone else finishing his books (I’m pretty sure at least)

[@Death.Died0]

George was born September 20, 1948 and he was 47 years old at the time when A Game of Thrones was released on August 1, 1996. It has been 23 years since the series started. There's only 28 years left before he becomes 100 years old.

[@jackpooper7412]

I think its just that its been ten years since the last book released and he seems to take up new projects rather than prioritize finishing the series.

[@denegwynn2869]

Jack Pooper 15 years

[@aquadonkey.]

And barely even books, hes been working on world building fir fucking board games and shit not even connected to his works

[@HostileAtHeart]

@@denegwynn2869 What the fuck are you saying, the last book released in 2011. It's been 9 years, not 15.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

I think your right, it could be laziness as well but like you said its probably more because of time management. He's to busy now doing a bunch of other projects he just doesn't have time to finish. Most writers release their stuff first before movies are made on it not the other way around and I think that will be the doom of the rest of the books and we might not ever see them. Shoot now they are talking about doing a new series that starts 300 years prior, and I'm sure Martin is helping them with the material.

[@Mini-Toast_]

@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Dude is an old man. If he wants to spend his later years doing as many different things as he wants, he can. He already knows how the story is going to end. Pretty sure there is a rough manuscript already written out. But he would be smart to release this books YEARS from now. When the show is mostly forgotten.

[@datguy3581]

I feel bad for him. It seems like he does struggle with writing these books.

[@karlleonis7882]

Can't really blame him. With all those crazy overly complicated fan theories out there, a lot of people would be really dissapointed if the books ended more "simple".

[@pinnacleproductions6275]

Writing a full World with so many complex characters is very difficult & yes I’m dying to read Winds but I also don’t want him to just throw everything out there just to get the book out. I’ve read the sample chapters from Winds of Winter and they’re awesome so I know it’s going to be great. I just hope this quarantine shit helps him focus & finish. It would be a tragedy if he isn’t able to finish the series. I keep reading the books over and over while waiting but God do I hope he finishes soon. But I won’t bash him because writing is so much harder than ppl know I’ve been working on two projects for like 20 years and still find it hard to finish.

[@gamer2101]

Pinnacle Productions I agree. It has to be complicated to finish something that has so many parts. I do not mind the wait, I want a fantastic book. I do worry about him passing away before they are done. He has so many projects and i wonder if he will finish them all. I really hope winds is almost done.

[@pinnacleproductions6275]

Loni Rowell I know he has the next 2 ASOIAF books planned out and as far as what happens, he has it all planned out & he may even have some chapters written for it because I think he said some of it will actually take place at the same time as Winds but idk. One thing I’m sure of though is that he won’t finish his other projects, he has more Dunk & Egg stories & wants to write more books that take place in Westeros. I am pretty sure he will end up selling the world of Westeros to a group he trusts to continue stories in that universe after he passes but I’m sure he’ll have some rules that need to be followed. But I really hope he’s at least able to finish ASOIAF & put out more Dunk & Egg & possibly another book set in that universe but I think it’s more likely we only get WOW & hopefully ADOS

[@dustinakadustin]

@@karlleonis7882 well that's what happened to the show, he's probably worried about that

[@EliteBlade97]

"Impatient and snarky" My guy it's been a decade and you have two more books (if he doesn't expand AGAIN). At some point criticism is valid

[@LordSathar]

A Storm of Swords came out in 2000, that's 2 books in 20 years, and he's slowing down.

[@Seskoi]

This guy owes nothing to anobody.

[@robertblume2951]

@@Seskoi and the readers don't owe him shit either.

[@53strat55]

@@robertblume2951 Nobody said readers do, the only thing some of you fake fans do is complain about him not releasing a new book. Just get the fuck out.

[@robertblume2951]

@@53strat55 fake fans? I ain't a fan at all. Keep sniffing the fat bastards ass. Speed of delivery is a legitimate customer complaint. You can either be a poor starving artist or get your head out of your own ass and treat it like the business it is.

[@jamessizemore1446]

Please, George, take pity I'm near 84 and fear I'll never know what happens to John Snow Branden and little ah ah Arny, damn I forgot her name, she had so many... who was instructed to stick'em with the pointy end with her new custom forged sword by her bastard half brother.

[@petrova7331]

Arya

[@aaronfkckcjc6910]

@Trips lol, why? You would hope that when you get to that age you haven't left too many loose ends dangling that you need to worry about...it should be all about watching what the younger generation is achieving and your hobbies and family and stuff? If you have major business to be done at 80 then you may die while you're in the middle of something...

[@jamessizemore1446]

@Trips Correct...

[@jamessizemore1446]

@@petrova7331 Thank you.

[@jamessizemore1446]

@Aaron Fkckcjc Go in peace and may you prosper...

[@solidsnake9898]

Before season 8 my reaction was: *"Yeah! Just hurry up, you're taking too long!"* My reaction after S8: *"Nah man, it's cool. Take all the time you need, I'll wait. "*

[@justinthibault5823]

@Omar Sabbagh GRRM is the #1 reason the show ended shitty. D&D didn't sign up 10 years ago to finish writing this story. They signed up to adapt it. GRRM never finished the books and just loosely told HBO his ending and then D&D just had to write all of it.

[@justinthibault5823]

@Omar Sabbagh So your blaming DnD for not being able to match the talent of a once in a generation Writer, When they didn't sign up to write any part of this story?

[@KaelusVonSestiaf]

@@Deukapi I don't think so, honestly. A lot of what went wrong with season 8 went wrong because they rushed into it and did it wrong. Martin could easily end his books with a similar conclusion (all the core plot points being the same) and it could still be a masterpiece because he'd have written it well. In other words, it's not necessarily season 8's plot points that were bad, but they had so little foreshadowing, so little build up, so little context that they came across as nonsensical. If season 5, 6, 7 and 8 as a whole were season 8 or even 10 seasons (ie, if they had time to properly develop and build up their plot points) then this wouldn't have happened.

[@Barnacleification]

all the peoples saying rush the ending is exactly that. be careful what you wish for.

[@DA-nk6gx]

@Omar Sabbagh Right, if they took the time to really adapt the books they would still be making seasons of book cannon content. They rushed through the story dropped a bunch of plotlines, ruined the representation of characters, killed off many characters for the sake of killing them, and lost passion for the project. That's not George's fault. D and D signed the contract knowing the series wasn't complete. Even if the story was complete I doubt they would have adapted it well. They were dropping the ball as early as season 3 with the Dorne storyline, one that is well fleshed out over three published books. They were fumbling published content and ruahing themselfs. It's no surprise, to me at least, that they fumbled unpublished content too. It was par for course.

[@bakthihapuarachchi3447]

GRRM : dont want my work to be remembered as half finished and broken. Me: horrible season 8 flasbacks. P.S - true fans will not harass him constantly but wait for him to be done with the books even if takes a 100 years

[@jasontodd5356]

100 years! That’s a stretch...

[@mitomen2000]

I never have and never will harass him. But if the series is really important to him personally, he needs to get his speed up. The man is 71.

[@Pr0digyZRX]

Real fans get to the point that taking 50 years to write a book is excessive. I dont mind if it takes a while. I want it to end as good as it began. But if he dies (which at 71 is a possibility especially in the times we live in now) then it won't be finished. Nobody can possibly say true fans anything. Cause no 2 people are the same. And screw waiting 100 years... even though I've read all the books more that 20 times a piece including the short stories. But I'm not that patient

[@TheCr0wing]

Hundred years, hundredth like. Willing to wait!!

[@RedVelvetBlackleather]

Bakthi Hapuarachchi It’s ridiculous for someone like GRRM to have the resources and time he has and not just finished his books. He has an obligation to the millions of people reading his book. Personally I think GRRM is a soy boy edgy atheist, but let me know what happens to the boy stannis.

[@sunnyc8679]

Back in my day people were perfectly fine with waiting 30 years for a book series to be finished! Kids these days with their internet and instant gratification wanting a book every 10 years.

[@larochejaquelein3680]

Ok boomer

[@Ahmed-ii7up]

Lol, ikr. How is waiting ten years asking for instant gratification?

[@balabanasireti]

Ok, boomer.

[@JoeBiden69696]

Ok boomer

[@luciamota1249]

Damn it! the lack of commitment in at least trying to understand the sarcasm here in this comment is cringey as fuck!

[@Seeric85]

"I should probably leave right now and write the Winds of Winter." You don't say, buddy.

[@Mr.BobGray]

He's not your buddy, friend.

[@TRENCHESandTREADS]

@@Mr.BobGray And he's not your friend, guy.

[@Mr.BobGray]

@@TRENCHESandTREADS I'm not your guy, buddy

[@genghiskhan7691]

@@Mr.BobGray And he's not your buddy, stranger

[@Mr.BobGray]

@@genghiskhan7691 You win this round, Khan

[@Jefstito]

“Some of them are very impatient”. I mean... its been 9 years...

[@AustinWetzel]

When are we gonna get blood borne 2 thou?

[@Jefstito]

@Jacob Sirak Oh, right, I agree. I mean, I rather wait 20 years if it means the book will be amazing and worth the wait. I'm just making fun at the fact that he said people are very impatient when its been so long, you know?

[@osmya0044]

And?

[@Jefstito]

@@osmya0044 and.. I dont understand your question. Its been nine years. You cant really point at people asking when you are gonna get done if its been that long. Dont get me wrong, he can take as much time as he wants if that means the book will be great. But people also have a right to wonder when da hell is gonna come out if its already been a decade

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

Lol I think Martin is forgetting he's only human and has a finite amount of time on this earth. He wont be here to much longer but the way he is writing these books he expects to be alive 50 years from now. The dude has maybe 10 years 15 tops if you look at him. He wont live till he's 90 he's to lazy and doesn't take care of himself. Dude has to finish 2 more books at least. He will be dead before he finishes at this rate.

[@denisdaly1708]

Really, GRRM should have bern honest about 5 years ago. He said in August in 2014 that he expected to be completed by Christmas of that year. He blew the deadline. He gave the impression that he was close, but not finished. 5, almost 6 years later, still no sign. He is just not honest. Maybe he is just not honest with himself.

[@jonahhenry1941]

I would bet that he's "finished" several drafts of tWoW but keeps revising and editing to make sure the story is right. Can't think of any other reason for him to keep saying he's "close", unless he's just been flat out lying.

[@EzraDair]

Denis Daly oh booo hooo cry me an entitlement river

[@tslomka6272]

@@jonahhenry1941 I would bet he hasn't finished squat other than that Blood and Fire book that nobody asked for

[@KingBowserVlog]

@@jonahhenry1941 it's a scary thought that GRRM is sitting in front of his DOS computer and it just falls over, losing all of his work

[@WodenTruthSpeaker]

Well I would assume that he's writing A Dream of Spring and Winds of Winter simutaneously. Making rough drafts of aDoS and putting the finishing touches to WoW.

[@brodiecutts3138]

I think the real issue is he's created something he is afraid of ruining. I mean the first interviewer said "if you didn't release the rest you'd be one of the greatest authors of all time" and many people believe that. That's a lot of expectation on one person. His books were always popular, but I think the show made ASOIAF so big, that he's worried more that the end won't be as grandiose, or perfect as the rest of the series has been built up to be.

[@WritingGeekNL]

Standard problem for most Garderner types.... Worst problem is though, he has to write a sequel to over 700k words by only using about 400k while also keeping the same pace. That's hard. That's REALLY hard.

[@tslomka6272]

I feel he wrote himself into a whole and now that the tv series aired, he is trying to make it different

[@JesusCheeseburger]

@@tslomka6272 Agreed. Everyone doesn't want the show ending to be the book ending but it most likely is. And everyone is still bashing how the show ended. I wouldn't be surprised if he's trying to rewrite a lot of it now.

[@lunakoala5053]

@@JesusCheeseburger The ending would have been okay if it was properly set up, which it probably would have been in the books. The show didn't do that and kinda ruined the whole idea of mad queen Daenerys.

[@hhattonaom9729]

I don’t think we’re that impatient at all. The last book was like a decade ago and the show ended on a low note

[@Bartooc]

Yeah stupids fans. He ends the 5th book with quite a huge cliff hanger let them wait for a decade and they are impatient.

[@lexluthor9279]

That also tells us when dumb and dumber had no books to follow, tv-show went downhill after that. George is between the rock and hard place, he could write earlier GOT-books silent and chill, but now there is constantly people asking: When the next book is coming? Also he knows that bar is set really high for waiting fans for he´s next book.

[@jupitersnoot4915]

He don't owe you shit, leave the man alone

[@JackoBanon1]

After the success of the series he suddenly got famous and rich but also is old and not in the best condition anymore. I guess that's the reason why he lost any drive in finishing the series. He enjoyed his years in the spotlight and he's been enjoying his wealth a lot and there's no more reason for him to continue writing.

[@hhattonaom9729]

@@JackoBanon1 I mean, for the sake of his reputation i guess and finishing a long project?

[@TapCat]

I've often thought that it was fortunate for Tolkien that LotR was written in relative obscurity. He was largely able to work on the story as he saw fit and only took feedback from a handful of trusted people. The later Harry Potter books appeared to suffer from Rowling trying to live up to fan expectation and make each more "epic" than the last but really just making them progressively more bloated. I won't pretend to know why it's taken Martin 10 years and counting to write this book, but I don't think the constant attention and grousing helps him at all. Nor do the constant invitations to speak, the adaptations of his work that want him to consult/write, etc. We'll never know, but if this series had been nothing more than a low-key fantasy hit until after the final book was released, I suspect that we would have already seen the series conclude years ago. As it is, I just hope that he finishes it at all.

[@williamjameslehy1341]

It took about 18 years from the original publication date of the Hobbit, to that of Return of the King. How many years ago was A Game of Thrones published? It's amazing how quickly your writing can progress when your story isn't bogged down with unnecessary descriptions of food and armour/clothing, lists of minor characters' formulaically colourful nicknames, long lists of songs played at weddings (Iron Lances, the Day They Hanged Black Robin, Two Hearts That Beat as One...), gratuitous rape scenes, and insanely graphic descriptions of an underage female protagonist's anatomy.

[@armintargaryen9216]

I would almost agree with the first comment if not for the fact that GRRM has been very publicly making profit by making easy cash-grab side projects and enjoying his (decaying) fame while disregarding what made him well-liked in the first place

[@Christan_Moreno]

I would be defending him if it wasn't taking 11 years to finish 1 book.

[@XDivineSouljax]

This dude said were impatient like it hasnt been almost 10 years since the last book came out. The last book came out the same year that the first season of the show did lmao

[@michaelkaba7481]

Yeah, gotta milk those merchandising dollars for everything.

[@Ward8668]

Eh, I’m wrapping up the first draft of my second novel and I’ve spent four years on it. I’m more bootstrapped than Martin and the time it has taken for this one is in part related to loss of time from work but I think you need to just understand that writing isn’t like any other art form - it takes time

[@MaXiMoS54]

Hes basically retired as far as Im concerned

[@chickenman7801]

Find something else to read. Shad from the medieval educational channel, Shadiversity, started a series called Shadow of the Conqueror. I've not read it but he is praised for his world building. George R.R. Martin is praised for his world building. Why not?

[@corpsebutler367]

Would you rather he release winds of winter and its dogshit ?

[@SunlightGwyn]

0:07 Being mad about a 13 year wait (10 year wait at the time of this video upload) is not "impatient". There are thousands of Game of Thones fans that have literally died and will never see the end of the story. And GRRM himself doesn't have much time left to finish the series. I would be shocked if he lived another 20 years which is what it would take to finish A Dream of Spring at this rate.

[@armintargaryen9216]

Let's be honest. Most of us would be surprised if he lived another 5

[@willthisdoreviews3376]

Patiently sitting through this Worldwide Pandemic waiting for A Storm of Swords 1.0.

[@lavenderbambi3501]

Storm of swords?????

[@AlbertAlbertB.]

A pandemic is always worldwide, otherwise, it isn't a pandemic. That is called an epidemic.

[@murdomaclachlan]

@@ThatKidinAfrica That's not what they meant. They were pointing out the fact that "worldwide pandemic" is a tautology, since "pandemic" implies "worldwide" by definition.

[@Guitaristmalakian]

You're a man culture Seigneur D'Artois ! :')

[@notevenironicallyfunny204]

That Kid in Africa i guess he doesnt know that books been written

[@The-bi5ry]

I would be incredibly crushed if he won’t be able to finish it since I’m so invested, but honestly I do understand why he’s taking so long.. writing isn’t easy and such a complicated series like this, it really isn’t easy for even someone who’s as talented as him. I really feel bad for him. It must be such a pain to be harassed and pressured to do something you love especially if you’re finding it hard in the first place.

[@emilegalli9549]

The truth is, since the show ended (and arguably since it's decline in quality of writing became apparent) people became desperate to get the true end of this story. The thing is, it seems like it'll never come, I don't have much more faith that I'll ever hold this book in my hands honestly.

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

I don't think it's "instant gratification" when it passes the decade mark tbh.

[@BumLuck]

Fans: So when's Winds of Winter coming out? GRRM: Here's two fake history books GRRM: I'm working as en executive producer on six TV shows GRRM: I'm producing a video game with FromSoftware Fans: ... GRRM: Geez don't be so impatient it's only been nine years I'm just a slow writer

[@LegionPlay]

Bum Luck YES exactly. "I‘m working as hard as I can to get The Winds of Winter finished before the TV show ends but here is a fake history book of 700 pages I wrote simultaneously"

[@LegionPlay]

Bum Luck maybe the plot has gotten so complicated that he procrastinates writing the series and always accepts other offers😂 not very advantageous

[@monnishp]

I'm not sure where I heard or read this, but I remember him saying that it was a lot easier to work on the 'history book" because there were super fans assisting him.

[@CerpinTxt87]

Fans: Do nothing but what I want you to do

[@taragnor]

Yeah lol. I mean maybe WoW would come out if he'd actually work on it instead of his dozens of side projects.

[@BrettWoodPiano]

He has said that he has people ready to take on the story if need be. I think he'll probably finish Winds but not sure about dream of spring. Hope he finishes it so he can have his legacy

[@gavinminty4974]

BrettWoodPiano where? He’s quoted as saying eh exact opposite. He notoriously hates fan fiction and is very protective of ASOIF.

[@Ryanfinder226]

Gavin Minty it’s not a fan fiction if he personally authorizes a writer to finish a series on his behalf in case he dies.

[@scoobydoox2667]

@@gavinminty4974 I've read the same thing. He has people ready to step up and finish all his stories

[@DrunkenGyarados]

ScoobyDoo X2 where did you hear this though? I’ve only ever seen this on those internet articles that are all clickbait and no fact. I’m betting you saw it on the same source as well.

[@scoobydoox2667]

@@DrunkenGyarados I read it on an article. It could be bs but it seemed legit though.

[@john-mf1qm]

He’s done like 7 wild card books while we wait for winds of winter and a taste of spring

[@tay6900]

Does he truly not understand why fans are a bit ticked off? I was 21 when I first read ASOIAF… I’m 46 now.

[@billielachatte4841]

He's not gonna finish it. No more motivation.

[@asd573]

Money tends to do that.

[@ShadadAlwawi]

@@asd573 he is old

[@Seskoi]

Sometimes motivation to finish the greatest masterpiece before the end of your life is greater than any money related motivation. I can understand the pressure he has with dozens of million of people waiting for the story to continue, a story which includes so many side-stories, lore, history, places, etc. Building such a story is like building the Sagrada Familia all by yourself.

[@asd573]

@@SkiSavesLives hats exactly my point, he has no needs moneywise atm so he can chill and not write because he is set for life. Dunno what you got from my comment tbh.

[@misslawless6021]

Especially with that PHAT HBO check

[@ZH8050]

See him to his chambers. Grand Maester, perhaps some essence of nightshade to help him write faster.

[@houseofcharm4751]

LMAO

[@Danksforbreakfast]

He talks about this generation being all about instant gratification but here's the thing, people have been waiting a whole decade for Winds of Winter and we have no solid evidence that he's even half done with it. George seems like a decent guy but at this point he should either cancel the book or release it within a year before any more of his fans die from old age.

[@leob4403]

Or he should do whatever he wants to do. I don't think he needs you to tell him what he should do. He's most probably far more intelligent than you in the first place

[@mith2946]

@@leob4403 Well at least we know one thing for sure, all of us here are more intelligent than you Leo.

[@leob4403]

@@mith2946 because?

[@srksharma8199]

@@leob4403 what? Stop nutriding him you 🤡. Noone is disrespecting him. People are just mad that he doesn't finish the story as they should be.

[@cepahreinholt8710]

@@leob4403 he can do wathever he wants whith his own books. He doesn't owe us anything in theory. But I'm mad because he always say he's going to finish next year or finish soon or that the works progress well. But it's never true. He should stop make people hope for something if it's for complaining when they are disapointed. He's making promises he don't keep. For me that is the issue.

[@chetanamukherjee2424]

I've never seen a single episode of "Game of Thrones" but read all of the books. I don't want to watch the series ever. I want to read the rest of it😭😭😭😭 gaawwwdd

[@JonLee123]

if you ever do just stop at season 5, you wont regret it lol

[@larochejaquelein3680]

Don‘t ever watch the show. The books are 1,000 times better

[@vlad-im4499]

The first 5 seasons (especially the first one) are really similar to the books, because they are the adaptations of the books, the season 6 it’s good, has epic moments and RR Martin was behind it so it will not be so different from the book, but in the 7 and 8 season Martin wasn’t there anymore and leave instructions of how it had to end, but not how the f... it will get there because at the time he didn’t know so those seasons may differ from the book but we don’t know how much and maybe he would decide that he doesn’t like that end anymore and change everything. In conclusion, the series are good and really loyal to the books, the first season it’s just like the books, except from small things like Renly appearing for the first time in Kingslanding, so it doesn’t affect the history a lot in that season and at the long run obviously some arcs and events happen different or don’t happen but you’ll understand since the books supports more info and history than the books (that on the first 5 seasons). If you take the advice of only watch the first 5 seasons, you will really appreciate and enjoy them and if you decide to watch the rest don’t take them too seriously and alway remember that the history in the season 6 it’s not that accurate and the history in the 7 and 8 will be totally different (except for the end, maybe).

[@samstocker6450]

Everything from seasons 1 to 4 is top tier. Season 5 is drawn out too long and from season 6 to 8 it just turns into such a generic action medieval show which contradicts a lot of GRRM's rules in story telling.

[@dukeman8481]

You're not missing anything to be honest.

[@chitownboyz]

I wonder how much he's gotten done as of now. He's been locked down in his house for over a month now so he gotta be getting some shit done.

[@Mona-kg6hy]

I've heard that he said he's spending more time in Westeros than in the real world, so it seems like quarantine is actually helping him write

[@maadtee6281]

500 words complete

[@Th3Passerby]

he's busy on twitter

[@xGarrettThiefx]

He s busy procrastinating.

[@KarolYuuki]

So I wanna hope

[@wobber17]

"Instant" = 10 years

[@Lalvon_Zelpharr]

I know, That's a pretty long ass time I don't know how people haven't lost interest to be honest

[@Lalvon_Zelpharr]

I've only discovered this series couple years ago but there's been people who have been reading these books since the 90s which is mind-boggling

[@luckychimp5134]

@@Lalvon_Zelpharr gee I wonder how people havent lost their interest so far? Maybe it's cause they've got other stuff on their minds besides George finishing twow. But who knows?

[@LOL-ng4br]

@@luckychimp5134 ofc people could lost interest, 10 years is a lot of time,people changes. Some start college, some get married but most importantly the mayority will forget important details and dont want to read all the books again. Perharps you dont even like fantasy anymore from here to 2 years and the first book came on 1996

[@andrelinoge9178]

I would think a lot of people didn't lose interest because his last book was published after the 1st series of GOT came out and since the series concluded less than a year ago lots of people would still be interested in reading it. Especially since lots of people would have gotten into the books from watching the series.

[@dicegamenetwork]

Fun Fact: Whoever bought A Game of Thrones in their 20’s is now in their 50’s…

[@samhavoc1066]

Gee why should anyone be snarky about waiting five years for Feast of Crows, six years for Dance with Dragons and 12 years and counting for the next? Blaming his fans for needing "instant gratification". Really, waiting 12 years is being impatient!? Its one thing to have writer's block, health issues, or something else. He decided to write other stories for other series and projects instead and scripts for a TV show that ended up outrunning the books. I won't be buying anymore.

[@coreyw2124]

13 years…..

[@jameswitts3793]

"really impatient"? He gave the go ahead for his TV series to become a TV show, before finishing writing the books, he's wrote other books since and it's been 9 years since the last book in the main series Fans every right to feel impatient and annoyed with him

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

Yes but some of that has been GOT stuff like the Egg stories and prequel histories - he has written about the world but not main saga.

[@jameswitts3793]

@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 That's my point He won't to commit to finishing the main ASOIAF saga

[@garricklanson4526]

James Luke I don’t even think the fans have any right to another entry in the ASOIAF series. GRRM shouldn’t be bound to desires of his fan base, he doesn’t deserve the disrespectful comments made towards him.

[@kairos2687]

I have never read a book series so im sure i cant fully understand your eagerness but the thing is the author really doesnt owe you anything, sure it would be nice to finish something he started but if he doesnt he only started it on his own choice no one elses.

[@jameswitts3793]

@@kairos2687 There's a big lack of understanding if you think an author shouldn't finish his book series

[@TomLeg]

People have been complaining for centuries about younger generations expecting instant gratification. and it was uphill both ways.

[@LordSathar]

That part was just complete deflection, oh it's not me it's you!

[@johnneville403]

"Instant' gratification a decade after the last book was published?

[@annedavis3340]

There are people who couldn't survive the amount of harassment he gets. George is an amazing, strong, man. Mad respect.

[@joetheonionslayer1240]

Its not harassment to want a writer to finish a book, stop kissing his ass and grow a spine.

[@brianmerritt5410]

He's a good sport about it; he understands being harassed about his next book is a problem other authors would love to have.

[@jonathanemerling1071]

Dude, it’s been twelve years. I don’t think people should harass him either, but you can’t blame the fans for wanting to hear the end of the story

[@IggyTthunders]

Martin: The internet created a generation of adults obsessed with instant gratification. Me: *Remembers, as a millenial, waiting hours for Napster to nearly finish downloading one episode of Invader Zim, only to crash because someone just HAD to use the fucking phone.*

[@vinicinfodexota5083]

@Holden Mcgroine u seem like a real funny guy to hang around, geez

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

I think the sad thing is G.R.R. martin has not released a book for almost 10 years. Dude is also 72 years old and getting to that point where something stupid kills you. He also does not take care of himself just look at him. From my perspective growing up around a bunch of old WW2 vets the ones who died before they hit 80 looked like him and the ones that lived longer looked like Stephen king like my grandfather who died in his 90's. He took good care of himself and died at 94 same as my grandmother. These books wont get done GRR Martin wont live that long he's getting to old and does not take care of himself. Also he's had 10 years to release the next book so something is wrong with him for it to take that long.

[@elcondoropinologo9821]

@Holden Mcgroine lol

[@Hrothgrar]

Lmao that is such a cop out argument. He's done writing the books. MAYBE we get Winds of Winter, but he will never finish the whole thing. He's already in his 70s and it has been over 8 years since the last book at this point.

[@Hrothgrar]

@ClandestineOstrich Yeah it makes me sad. A dream of spring will remain a dream it seems.

[@JeffPenaify]

I think winds of winter will be harder for him to write than a dream of spring

[@MikeSmith-od5sl]

I agree I just don't see it ever happening at this point. I don't think he has any motivation to finish and would rather do other things at this point.

[@dorianleakey]

"really impatient" That implies its about 6 months after we were expecting it, rather than 9 years since the last book. He is perfectly entitled to take his time, we are entitled to have feelings about it. I was really concerned when he started introducing more plot elements in the last book, i just felt we already had enough, to complicate it further seemed odd. Also taking 9 years but talking as if impatience can be explained away by the modern information age, it doesn't really work. His reasons make me more bothered about something I barely thought about till seeing this. I would rather he said "this is really hard, I am struggling to get it right"

[@denisdaly1708]

Well said.

[@pramitbanerjee]

he is either an extreme perfectionist or the best procrastinator

[@DA-nk6gx]

@@pramitbanerjee he is some what both but more of a perfectionist than any thing else. He was about to release winds years ago but decided to do major rewrites to get it just right.

[@MrAngryCucaracha]

I'm not a writer myself, but as I was reading the last two books, and specially with the Aegon reveal, it just seems to me that if a story has beginning, middle and end, introducing characters and opening plot lines is something you should do at the beginning, not at the middle. If the 5th book is still in the beginning, then how are you going to end in two books? surely you need another 5 at least. As I say I'm not a writer, but I will be surprised if he can indeed finish in a satisfactory way in 7 books. Seems like he would need 10 at least. Which of course will probably never happen. He's "people are entitled and they want instant gratification" is bullshit though.

[@dangerdan2592]

I think he could do it in 8 books total. The Aegon story line might not take too long to wrap up. He could possibly do it in 7 books total but it might be difficult since Dany still hasn't left Essos and is actually just being found by the Dothraki at the end of Dance. I wish he was younger and could have all the time he wants to write a bunch of books in the series and then write a few more Dunk and Egg novellas, but it is what it is.

[@larafuchs706]

The last two books should have been one book, trimmed and shortened to a faster pace. George has one great problem...he is a gardener and that is fine if you start writing a story. Then it is good, because it makes it easier to write, but once you reach a certain point you must make a plan and I think George has no plan beyond some cool ideas. I think he is struggling to pull all these characters together, but I do not think he can do it without cutting plot and killing off chracters.

[@KE-hr4sb]

"Impatient," he says, of people that have waited fifteen YEARS. That's more years than Dani was old when she married Drogo! Meanwhile, Laurell K. Hamilton juggles two series, short stories, graphic novels and goodness knows what else. Previously, I had just decided to accept the TV show's ending as the book's ending, because the likelihood of him finishing the series before he dies is slim to none. Then, I witnessed the atrocity that was season eight and just decided to make up my own ending in my head. To me, the books ARE over.

[@ilioulhsbalanar8693]

I feel you!!!! Thats exactly what i've done.. O madd my own theories and I finished it myself in my mind

[@ssjdeadpool]

Well that's going a bit overboard

[@KE-hr4sb]

@@ssjdeadpool Is it? He just recently did an interview, I think, where he admitted he was "working"...by moving chapters around and rearranging sections, and then also pushed back the release date again, which I think was supposed to be this month? (I stand corrected, he promised to have "manuscript in hand" for July ComicCon, which got canceled due to covid.) You wanna lay bets on how many more times it's going to get pushed back until it gets rug swept and not even mention a release date anymore? But keep in mind, he's what, 71? It's been nine years since the last book. If he takes even "only" nine years apiece (and this one is nowhere near being done, he's said, so probably going to be another couple years on top of that), he's working against the clock, I don't say that to be mean it's just a fact of life. I do also find it a bit insulting that every time fans ask for updates he gets mad at them for "pressuring" him, and if people voice disappointment they get told things like "he's not your bitch" (by another writer). That's a real nice attitude to have towards the fans and the people that are lining their pockets. (No, I'm not saying he has to be their bitch, don't at me. I'm saying being rude to the fans is maybe not the best idea for someone that literally makes their livelihood dependant on them.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH64q62fatGDq9k

[@leob4403]

@@KE-hr4sb are you serious, he doesn't owe you anything, also he has enough money to last him the rest of his life, he doesn't need toxic fans money, also I don't think you have paid him for a book he didn't deliver. If it was a kickstarter or something where he had taken the money beforehand, only then can you make demands as a fan.

[@KE-hr4sb]

@@leob4403 Are you serious? I never said he owed me anything, I just said he's taking so long, I'm not expecting him to finish the series in his lifetime, since the last one was out 10 years ago. I also never said he should be grateful for my money. How does stating a fact make me toxic, exactly? I do, however, take issue with him calling his fans impatient when he's broken multiple promises to them on release dates. Myself, I'm not impatient (OR making demands); like I said, I consider the series over.

[@claudialanzerstorfer1995]

that story is so good that´s why we are so impatient and not all questions and mystery left behind are resolved yet. i could wait 1-3 years until i hoped every christmas this year winds of winter came out. Now it is longer than 5 years and i give up. :(

[@TigerTzu]

As much as I want to cut this guy some slack, the last time a proper book in the series came out, Obama was still in his first term as President. At a certain point, the problem isn't the fans acting entitled and impatient. At a certain point, the fear that this obese elderly man won't finish the final 2 books in his series becomes a genuine concern for fans. Not to come off as harsh, but if he still won't acknowledge the legitimacy of this concern, he's being willfully ignorant.

[@leob4403]

If he's about to die then let him live his last years in peace and do whatever he wants, he doesn't owe you anything

[@TigerTzu]

@@leob4403 If his plan is to just die and leave the fans who've supported him all these years hanging, then fuck him.

[@infamousgamer767]

I love that, despite being one of the most famous authors ever, he never takes himself too seriously in interviews.

[@proudsaiyanprince2651]

Yeah, just gaslights fans that made him a millionaire

[@infamousgamer767]

@@proudsaiyanprince2651 he's a fantasy author bro that's the point

[@proudsaiyanprince2651]

@@infamousgamer767 to treat paying customers like shit?

[@infamousgamer767]

@@proudsaiyanprince2651 man he does write other shit, he's not obligated to make mainline asoiaf his entire life. I get the joke but at the end of the day he doesn't owe anyone anything. You got the books you've paid for, it's not like you fuckin pre-ordered winds, it'll come out when it's done or George dies, spending a decade whining that an 75 year old man isn't writing fast enough isnt going to do anything apart from raise your blood pressure.

[@proudsaiyanprince2651]

@@infamousgamer767 he could have written 1 page a day and completed Winds 4 years ago. You’re defending laziness and an attitude that is unprofessional. It’s embarrassing people still compare him to Tolkien.

[@chequereturned]

He’s one of the wisest, most interesting and most introspective people who does interviews. People consider it ‘wasting time’ ignore the value in that.

[@theminisimmer]

Honestly I wish I had millions of people harrasing me to write my book.

[@Dylankiwi1]

Hmm I mean the fact almost been 9 years since the last book. Fans aren’t impatient more so confused is the book even being worked upon. The fact he consistently going to cons and doing side projects doesn’t help. Fact is that he only writes at home he said himself. He stated one time if I have to do one interview in a certain day I can’t work for the entire day. Considering how much side projects and interviews he does ... doesn’t take a genius to know it chews a lot of his time. Granted in the last 2 months actually seems like he working on the series, however sad it took a pandemic to stay home and write his novel. The probability of ADOS is low like seriously low, but TWOW I reckon still could be a thing. Edit : how do u go from I reckon 2015, then 2016 say few months away , 2017 unsure what response, 2018 saying might be two books coming this year ... ( also grammar)

[@dangerdan2592]

I think what got people upset is that he said back when Dance was released that WoW would be coming out fairly quickly, and that got peoples' hopes up. Then here it is almost 10 years later and the book still isn't out. Also, many people weren't happy with the show so that just made people even more eager for the book to come out. I don't like when people berate him and act rudely but I kind of understand being impatient for him to finish the book.

[@Dylankiwi1]

@@dangerdan2592 more just false promises or estimations that highly inaccurate like in 2016 saying " few months". Doesn't help that Fire and Blood is thing, its like was george writing F & B the entire time instead of making progress with TWOW ... Sure authors don't owe u anything but how do u go maybe in 2015-2016 to now 2020 no release date in sight.

[@Dylankiwi1]

@FuckYouGoogle well i disagree with overrated statement its critical acclaim it's quite apparent through its quality. Yeah, I agree they weaker elements example Esso in ADWD with Danny and Tyrion chapters, though this seem natural consensus they boring parts of the narrative. But yeah i agree with the notion expanding on the world ... ain't biggest accomplishment how u tie it in together and conclude it which matters.

[@pedro15305]

11 years. He has no excuses.

[@ianinabinet3483]

I finished A Feast for Crows in 2007, some people started reading him in 1998 and have been waiting for him that whole time. To anybody considering reading his work, take my advice: wait until he is done.

[@tezz2698]

"When you wait a few span or month to hear a finished song, the anticipation adds savor. But after a year excitement begins to sour. By now, a year and a half had passed and folk were almost mad with curiosity."

[@ianonrust5766]

He has an interesting definition of impatient.

[@pramitbanerjee]

As an old person, he probably has a different perspective on time. 9 years for him is like 4 years like us

[@scottgrasser9475]

@@pramitbanerjee yea but the problem is as a old person he likely does not have 9 years in him

[@mynamejeff8741]

The Winds of Winter will undoubtedly be a super long book and probably one of the most ambitious books he will have ever written. But him saying that he would be finished with the book soon when he still isn’t YEARS later makes it seem like he is lazy and not working on it. I know he has a life and doesn’t spend every waking moment writing, but he shouldn’t tell us it will be released soon if it isn’t. It has been hinted that it may be released this year, but at this point I’m waiting for him to say it will be finished by Christmas of 2021

[@BronnBlackwater]

Lol try christmas of 2025

[@delattacobell8948]

Maybe 2023

[@mohitagarwal2025]

@@delattacobell8948 I like your optimism boy

[@stars-and-clouds]

@@delattacobell8948oh, my sweet summer child.

[@dommyd-kd1928]

Almost 2023 😂

[@kyledavis7424]

Did anyone hear "song of swords"?

[@DoggoWillink]

Yeah like two seconds before reading this too.

[@daddyleon]

@@DoggoWillink me 2 seconds after it, checking to see if people mentioned it.

[@minhongz]

I just want to finish the books before I die.

[@PaolaRL]

Impatient? George, it’s been 9 YEARS!!!!

[@Valerianqelbri]

ITS BEEN 12 YEARS, GEORGE. 12 YEARS.....

[@ckillgore]

When he speaks of the impatience created by internet culture, I disagree that it is a generational phenomenon. I think the internet simply amplifies impatience. I know many older people who have fallen into a pattern of being extremely impulsive and impatient, wanting instant gratification, and this behavior is exacerbated by access to the internet. On the other hand, I know many young people who are extremely patient, respectful, and have the will power to delay gratification. Whether or not the internet can influence a person into a pattern of impatience I think has more to do with their existing personality and experience than what generation they belong to. In fact, I would go as far to say that generalizing any behavior as belonging to a single generation will always be an incorrect statement. As I type, we are in the middle of a quarantine, and if you look at the people who at this moment are desperate for things to return to normal versus the people who are content to wait, you will find that they cannot be catagorized by age. Judging a group of people by what generation they belong to is also not a behavior exclusive to a single generation. It is not as if only old people are saying "Kids these days...", there are also young people who generalize the generation before them. I honestly wish we would throw out the practice of identifying people by which generation they belong, as it is never useful, helpful, or necessary. It is only ever used as a tool to insult a particular group. Even if you are saying that a certain generation is good some regard, the unspoken thing you are saying is that every other generation is worse in that same regard.

[@danielroberts1296]

Christian Killgore hey I really like the text you’ve written here. Is it ok if I use on a language exchange website, (it’s called hellotalk, I put different topics on for people to discuss) I can credit you

[@danielroberts1296]

also I don’t make profit from ads or anything it’s just a social app

[@ckillgore]

@@danielroberts1296 go for it dude, ideas are ideas. I don't think you can copyright a KZbin comment, nor would I want to. But if it makes you more comfortable using my writing, permission granted.

[@satanbrony9235]

Nice

[@IEmIM]

Well said!

[@castlewhite1577]

Muwah.... People are harassing me to finish my job, muwah.

[@ballripper6148]

Tell this to Berserk fans

[@anthonycrayne2835]

New chapter in a week tho!

[@Th3Passerby]

@@anthonycrayne2835 griffith appears in elf island and kills casca... the end.

[@billybobthornton1950]

@@Th3Passerby causality causality

[@mylingnovels8000]

At least he got off the boat...

[@Th3Passerby]

@@mylingnovels8000 hahahaha 7 years boat ride!

[@alexhand4584]

He's literally never going to finish it. It's over

[@frankleben5451]

I understand his position but at the same time, there is a limit on how long you should take between books. If he’s doing everything he can and it’s taking this long, fine. I do not feel like that’s the case. Something tells me that the delay is due to the poor reception of the show’s ending and his need to revise his original plan.

[@WezMan444]

#BeNiceToGeorge

[@matjohnson6870]

Raven Blackwood be nice yes, but at the same time he needs to get to work on these things, like if winds isn’t published by 2021-22 then we have grounds to be upset. They were set for like 2019

[@jokullah]

@@matjohnson6870 he doesn't NEED to do anything.

[@jcavs9847]

@@jokullah i mean he promised multiple times the book was going to be released at some date, but it never was. so i guess fans have a reason to be upset

[@jokullah]

@@jcavs9847 absolutely have reason. It is not kind to promise something multiple times without delivering. But he isn't bound to the fans like a slave

[@joetheonionslayer1240]

No, fuck that fat piece of shit. He's worthless until he finishes the books.

[@hawkmoon5290]

I dont mind waiting for TWOW, but we dont even know if it's even halfway done or just the last few chapters that needs filling in.

[@noahiellina213]

Game blouses everything before the word but is horseshit (:

[@kenmasters1803]

He was open about how far along he was in ADWD, now he doesn't tell us anything

[@DidacGarcia98]

What worries me is to have another Tolkien, with unfinished books and data of the universe, if he was younger i wouldn't be worried at all.

[@lorddarkstorm1354]

@@noahiellina213 Before*. Everything before the word 'but' is horseshit.

[@noahiellina213]

Raghuveer Hosur Damn I really screwed that up ):

[@Michael-iw1cx]

D & D ruined 8 years of my life come on GRRM we need you

[@andrewalexander4331]

George is doing well to ignore the impatient. His options are to get it done right now, or get it done right.

[@poling1990]

Or to not get it done at all. 10 years is a long time. We may never see the end of the series.

[@MusMasi]

Honestly the Jokes and Memes about how long it takes him to finish this series are as much entertainment as the works themselves, I remember a someone telling how slow he was in the early 2000s lol.

[@DangerRussDayZ6533]

To all of the people saying have patience... do any of you realize that to those of us who read the books long before the shows came out we've been waiting a very long time already?

[@devanshumishra847]

That's because he was one of writer on the tv series as well till season 4

[@michaelkaba7481]

He wrote one episode per season. GTFO.

[@henrywoodard9712]

Here’s what I’ve found as massive fan of the series. When you buy an authors work, especially a series, you’re essentially buying it on an installment plan. There is some sense of an unspoken agreement between author and reader that you will finish. It’s like if I hire someone to build my house and then the contractor tells me don’t worry we will finish the roof eventually.

[@leob4403]

Complete nonsense, writing a book is nothing like building a house, with building a house there are certain steps to follow, set skills to learn, certain materials, tools and so forth. As long as you follow the blueprint with time the house will be finished. When writing a book there is nothing but the creative spark within you, if it's not there, you can't force it to appear

[@mechcannon]

@@leob4403 The point isn't anything to do with the process of which the house is built, only that the installment is eventually built. Because when buying a book that says 1 on it, then one that says 2, you are buying into fact there will be a continued story and that there will be a 3. If there isn't a 3 and it just stops on a cliffhanger, you can't wonder why the person is annoyed at the thing, they bought into and enjoyed isn't finished. You've already bought into the House. You are unlikely to stop mid-stream.

[@leob4403]

@@mechcannon The first book didn't say 1 on it, it said Game of thrones, and is a perfectly contained story in and of itself, it ends with Daenerys being reborn as the mother of dragons, and it would have worked just fine as an ending to a fantasy saga. Any book you got after that should be considered a bonus

[@Rafael_Mena_Ill]

@@leob4403 He's not gonna notice you Leo.

[@dengai2932]

@@leob4403 No.

[@Redmayne152]

I don't think that George realizes without finishing the story, he's destroying his own legacy. World building is fun and all, but if you focus more on that rather than finishing the actual story that got people interested in the first place, then whats the point even of world building? Why should we care to begin with about other things happening in Westeros and Essos?

[@ytv31]

He will peacefully pass away without ever bringing this series to an end, a real shame honestly.

[@chadcunningham4421]

I like how he talks about the younger generation being used to instant gratification like a dance of dragons wasn’t published ELEVEN YEARS AGO. that’s over a decade.

[@alialmuhanna4938]

GRRM & Kentaro Miura, two authors whose work the world eagerly awaits.

[@CAPTAIN-wc6wh]

Togashi too my dude

[@tsumetaiii934]

@@CAPTAIN-wc6wh And Takehiko Inoue for Vagabond T_T

[@MountAverage28]

berserk returns with a new chapter this month at least

[@carval51]

@@MountAverage28 lol been years no new berserk. He only released when the anime aired lol

[@MountAverage28]

@@carval51 last year came a chapter and this month will also be a new berserk chapter what are you talking about

[@Marion89gr]

I feel like he has fallen out of love with the story

[@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs.]

He's writing a lot of Westeros esoterica. Little side stories and things like that, so I think he still does love the world he's created. But Martin is clearly one of those authors who needs a strict editor and demanding publisher. Left to his own devices he'll write lengthy prose about nothing without advancing the story and go down blind alleys.

[@mneedes2]

I bet he's not the only one !