Update on The Winds Of Winter - George R. R. Martin

[@PenguinRandomHouse]

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[@guitaristAustin]

Of course I will watch it, thank you!

[@Grainsworth]

Hugh Lorrie for Doctor who

[@tarikbajric1449]

He stole from Tolkien in the story he wrote for Elden Ring, not only did he steal the two trees but also incomplete refferences to the guidance of Eru Illuvetar.

[@benbarberian1701]

Penguin random house, can you publish new update on winds of winter, my friend has life expectancy of a year due to cancer, and he would like to read asoiaf further before he dies.

[@AndeePandee]

I hope he sees it as a compliment. The eagerness of his fans is a testament to how much we all love the world he has built.

[@Mohammed-bd7ql]

He does, he stated that on an interview with Conan.

[@vinodvagadurgi414]

George rr Martin is a legend The more time he takes the more amazing the work will be Mark my words 💯

[@joxidearmageddonator882]

@@vinodvagadurgi414 i feel the same way. i'm relatively new to the series so have only been eagerly awaiting TWOW for about 2 years now but when it's released i know it's gonna be so good

[@icewollowcome9370]

@@vinodvagadurgi414 yeah you're right but mark my words aswell, he won't finish the series. He might finish winds of winter but no way we're getting a dream of spring.

[@vinodvagadurgi414]

@@icewollowcome9370 well yeah man that would be bummer if we don’t get to read dreams of spring

[@MarnieGolde7]

I cannot imagine the pressure he feels to finish this book. I would not be surprised if this has turned into a stress-loop thing for him which is also getting in the way of his writing. I’d love another book. But I am so incredibly thankful for the world he has already given us.

[@renamedmyselfMyla]

I know right? People need to leave him be. He’s getting up there in age and it’s probably getting harder for him to work on it.

[@mr.joshua6818]

Well said

[@fernandoalvarez9963]

Well, clearly not enough pressure.

[@mr.joshua6818]

@@fernandoalvarez9963 😆

[@KingSlayer_.]

Well said and even so I could tell that he is just as excited to see the finished product as we are. Alot of people have been saying that he's lost his passion for the series and this tells me he hasn't. I think we'll see it in 2024 - 2025. Best we can all do is just be patient.

[@Finn-xw4vn]

Honestly, I love that George has the character, passion, and sheer will to continue with the series and refuses to give up on quality, despite the pressure.

[@harish123az]

Meh, time doesnt equal quality after a certain threshold. Art is usually instinctive. His best books have the least time between them This assumption that just because someone procrastanates or taken more and more times, the quality will keep on improving is bull Like almost everything in life, time vs quality graph is also kind of a bell curve with the quality improving with time taken but then reaching a peak and then declining with much longer time taken

[@Finn-xw4vn]

@@harish123az I assumed nothing like that. Not all of his time is used well. However, there is still a lot of pressure to produce something. I am merely happy that he is willing to make it good, rather than cave and produce a shitty knockoff in less time to please supposed fans (see GOT season 8).

[@lbfourtwenty4163]

i wish he had the character to fucking write it in under a decade

[@JoeKing69]

It’s not going to be released within his lifetime, mark my words.

[@ThunderDawg89]

I know what's keeping him, he is a gardener, not an architect, he allows his storytelling to grow organically. The problem with gardening is the little weeds and stuff that you have to keep an eye on, if you don't, you're left with an awful lot of cleaning up to do before you show people

[@hamzaomari7052]

May god grant this man all the years and force needed to finish the books

[@asbest2092]

I'll try

[@prateekagar88]

Amen

[@hamzaomari7052]

@@asbest2092 nice one 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@muhammadanas2433]

Amen

[@junior1388666]

Winds of Winter, maybe. If the gods are good. Dream of spring never coming out tho🙁

[@ArkadianDream]

Can't wait to read it, rereading everything in the meantime and savoring it. And please, George, take care of your health as best as you can, we need you here for at least another 40 years

[@voluntarism335]

You'll never read it because he's not working on it and he's lying when he says he's working on it. He is so full of shit

[@magikille]

Bro 110 year old? xD

[@wiggy2265]

@@magikille 😂

[@SkaffaS]

40 years, yeah right, i give him 10 to 15 max.

[@hypn0298]

He is 74 already he ain’t living to 114 bud

[@bakedandsalty9234]

Poor George looked immediately stressed when the topic changed to WoW…. 😢

[@Caulculon69]

I truly felt sorry for him when I saw this video. The amount of horrible things that have been said to him over this book over the years has surely left a sour taste in his mouth. I just hope he knows that he has a lot of fans who love him and his work and have been waiting patiently this whole time.

[@George-um2vc]

@@Caulculon69 I for one am so grateful for this man and to have him still with us making badass content whether it be in shows or books is such a blessing he has truely enriched my life as a mega fantasy fan, at this point nothing interest me more than his GOT universe.

[@cristaldubragg3110]

I do not feel sorry for him, stress well deserved due to way too much procrastination

[@Neurotik51]

@@cristaldubragg3110 I mean he doesn't have to do it at all. He could just retire right now if he wanted, he owes all of us absolutely nothing yet dirtbags like you act like you're entitled to this book; you're not.

[@BriellaScarlet]

@@cristaldubragg3110 Bro I would like to see you write a book this extensive and complex if you think about this in that way...

[@s4m1r_65]

He is a perfectionist. And that's perhaps why we didn't get the book yet. We love the story. As much as we hate the wait, i believe it will be worth it in the end

[@Peter_Baelish]

If he was a perfectionist he wouldn't allow or be okay with the numerous errors and inconsistencies in the two GoT shows. It's paycheck and fame above all book fans.

[@Tajarim88]

Perfect is the enemy of good enough. And of actually publishing things.

[@ingogotico1398]

Nah, it went south after the third volume

[@jensraab2902]

"it will be worth it in the end" - problem is, at this point it's near certain that there won't be an ending written by Martin.

[@mijanhoque1740]

He didn’t have this much of an issue with the past 3 to 5 books atleast but this just ridiculous. It’s been over a decade and he’s more interested in money from the television side than anything.

[@jean8884]

The real plot twist for this story is us actually getting the books. Keep on keeping on George.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

I hate this plot twist 😭

[@mrmu7ammed1]

I’d love it if he just focus on one Dunk n Aeg stories, even one every 2 years

[@Mulyse]

"On October 17, 2023, Martin appeared at an event with Cassandra Clare, where the pair conducted a casual two way interview, with each asking the other on their experience as authors, their material, recent happenings, etc. During the talk, Clare commented on the release date for her next book as being in March of 2025, to which Martin replied "The depressing thing is that still might beat Winds of Winter""

[@markc8401]

might????? what a joke...the fat man is a comedian!

[@breakfast9994]

What does that mean

[@HarshDude126]

@@breakfast9994 It means Clare's book will probably come out before Winds of Winter.

[@joer626]

@@breakfast9994pretty self explanatory

[@breakfast9994]

@@joer626 god damn it. When is this man publishing winds😔 so not in 2025 and maybe even 2026, so when?

[@watchspotting]

I’ve just started reading the books. I’m on the first one and I stay up reading it almost every night! I’m glad you’ve continued working on the book, George. As a writer myself, I know the writing process is often brutally difficult, and I can’t imagine how much worse it is for writing a massive world like Westeros. We love you, George!

[@josephhirning2642]

Same, and as an aspiring writer, It's tough, finding the motivation, holding back from rewriting every word. It's rough. Can't even begin to imagine how he's feeling. I'm on the first book right now and I'm loving it.

[@ct7842]

Just started the books and find them to be very well developed out of the fantasy series I've dabbled into. It must be tough creating a world that is only in your mind. creativity is not something that a writer or artist can control it just is.

[@pennzilla57]

Give you some advice. Stop reading it. Do put yourself through the pain and blue balls of Dance. You will thank me later

[@branc2795]

He's a badass actually....never caving. Never just releasing some shitty ending he thinks will make money and get him off the hook. He could do that....but he doesn't. Dude has artistic integrity.

[@kaiju_k5042]

It was an odd decision to let D&D do a show when he only had 5 book out and it's been 11 years since book 5 came out. He should have just said no and went on writing his story.

[@noxe6413]

@@kaiju_k5042 i don t think a lot of people thought the story would still not be finished when they catch up with the books.

[@tirullow6313]

@@noxe6413 not even GRR Mattin thought that lol

[@Billythetoaster2004]

@@noxe6413 They started cutting critical things off from season 1

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

The thing is he also doesn’t have to, he has “fuck you money.” Not only that he could just release the book independently and people would buy it in droves. The guy can do whatever he wants.

[@jademonolith]

He is probably more inspired to write now that he has seen how HOTD was a success.

[@Astromamut]

He could also be inspired to write blood and fire, dunk and egg, work on other shows, etc.

[@indorilnerevar5160]

@@Astromamut don't give him any funny ideas lol

[@bennify1]

hes been successful way before GOT even aired so thats not one of the factor why he takes so long. i think the book is very difficult for him to write so he procrastinate like me

[@jademonolith]

@@bennify1 the way season 8 fell flat on its nose should drain the enthusiasm out of any writer even if it was an adaptation. Now that HOTD is almost universally loved, it can do wonders for his creativity and spur GRRM to write better and faster. That's what I meant by "success"

[@PerseusEsq]

One way to prevent burnout is to work on other projects. I think he’s trying to give us a good book because he knows his books have reached the same popularity scale as Harry Potter or LOTR and that he’s writing for future generations too at this point

[@maxnebula3210]

We love you George! Keep taking your time with the book, enjoy your life! Thank you for bringing us one of the best series ever made. We as fans need to realize he’s a human and he’s working on it, let him live his life and enjoy the craft

[@linkos2540]

*let him live his life, sounded like you are living his life xD

[@alnorth612]

Well I don't know if we can allow u to live his life 😜😜

[@NikhilTheGreatest]

Lmao, well, sorry, buddy, not sure if you'd be able to make the novels as good as him

[@kingrobert7246]

He needs to get the book done

[@madhurjya9301]

Dude’s tryna live GRRM’s life

[@nicobenji0248]

Honestly this makes me feel more optimistic about it. 1500 pages roughly is insane. I'm sure at his age it's difficult to complete this while he has other more time sensitive projects he gets wisked into like House of Dragon and Elden Ring. HoD he might not be the main writer but I'm sure he's consulted on stuff a lot

[@MentalSmarties]

GRRM is awesome. Such an incredible author. A small part of me hopes he tricks us and says “Actually, I’ve been writing both books and that’s why it’s taken so long” 😂 That would be phenomenal, but I know it’s highly unlikely. This thing sounds like it’s longer than LOTR LOL. I’ll be ready when it’s here Mr. Martin! Take your time. We all appreciate you!

[@grim_2000]

It probably is longer than LotR, since _The Storm of Swords_ alone is roughly the size of LotR.

[@cabal359]

Your hoping for a Brandon Sanderson style surprise book reveal? from GRRM?

[@Just.Kidding]

Honestly, part of why WoW is taking so long is because it's the one that has to pull together all the dozens and dozens of plot threads. If Winds comes out, a huge part of the work for DoS will have been done

[@futureboy314]

Really feeling bad for George here. I’m an old fan and have run the gamut of emotions waiting first for Feast,then for Dance, and now for Winds. But I really do believe he’s a genius who has dreamed up this incredible world and the pressure he must feel is something I can’t even hold in my head. The man can take his time, as far as I’m concerned. All the time he needs to make it as good as he can make it. And maybe we won’t actually see a Dream of Spring, but that won’t lessen his contribution to the human imagination.

[@LC-wv7tz]

I disagree. I've been a reader for 17 years. I think his handling of the whole affair has been uniquely and tragically bad. I don't wish him any ill will, but whatever stress he is feeling is purely his own creation and due to lack of discipline on his part. At the end of the day, he sold out his life's work to become fantastically wealthy and build a mega media brand. It seems like that's what he truly wanted all along was a life of celebrity, fame, and wealth. He overcommits and works very hard on a million different projects, but none of them are Winds of Winter. If he'd rather work in big, dumb, gory and stupid hollywood project and run around the world to do interviews and stand on red carpets and attend conventions, well, he's free to make that choice. Needless to say I think that's incredibly sad and disappointing. It's the choice I would have made and not the one I wish he would have. He wrote hundreds of pages during 2020 when he was forced to stop flying around playing at being a celebrity. If he had just sat down to get to work and focus on the art at hand, it would have been finished years ago. He simply has other priorities and isn't interested in working on it anymore.

[@Skyberg21]

@@LC-wv7tz Couldn't have said it better. He's in everyone's good graces now because HoD reignited everyone's love for his universe, but anyone who believes the last "1/4" of the book will ever be finished has forgotten all the updates over the last decade plus.

[@james8194]

@@LC-wv7tz He’s allowed to live his life and spend his time as he sees fit. Nobody’s actually being harmed, we’re just getting the luxury that is his novels a little later than we otherwise would have.

[@coreyaruecker]

@@LC-wv7tz so damn entitled. The man is far more disciplined than you’ll ever be. Let’s be real about that. Just because he’s not working on the specific project you want him to, with tunnel vision, doesn’t make him undisciplined. He can work on whatever he wants whenever he wants, you spoiled man child.

[@Ironworthstriking]

The guy has had enough time. There's something else going on whether it be a personal loss of interest or a creative road block.

[@DrWolfenstein313]

Mind you, all of this he is saying means we may be as far as two years away from the book. I love the man, but boy being his fan can be frustrating. All my love to you, George, you're a modern genius.

[@designate_om]

on a positive note, the older you get, the faster your perception of the passage of time. after 11 years, another 2 is no big deal

[@AnnaOliviayy]

I think 2 years is being optimistic.. Problem is he has too many distractions in his life :|

[@briani8785]

Yeah he’s working on shows, expanding his histories, and writing a manuscript that spans thousands of pages. It’s a lot.

[@davidrich27]

I think you mean 2 years at least.

[@ciamciaramcia99]

If GRRM would finally stop rewriting already existing chapters then sure 2 years might be doable. But realistically that's not gonna happen, it aint his style. There was a time when authors (for example Dickens) would publish their novels in parts in a newspaper as a serial. I know it's probably impossible because of already signed deals with publishers, but If GRRM released 1 chapter a month (which is not even that fast of a pace) for the last 11 years, and publish it online or in a magazine, he would be already done with whole saga.

[@REChronic54]

I’ve complained about the wait but honestly it’s hard writing the end to a beloved series which is equal to finishing up your life’s work. There’s so many things in the story to account for. Not only does he have to write but he has to revise; sometimes he’s not happy with a couple of pages. I’m an artist and I get burnt out; I’ve sometimes given up art for a couple of years. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s constantly left it alone for a year or two.

[@fkillah]

A dream of spring will be the conclusion.

[@ciamciaramcia99]

The thing is, he's nowhere close to finishing the series. In GRRM's original rough sketch, when he started writing ASOIAF, there were to be 3 books. First book about the war of 5 kings, second about Dany's invasion of Westeros and third about the fight against the white walkers. So, clearly we're not even 1/3 of the way to the end, according to his original plan.

[@Relixification]

@@ciamciaramcia99 Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring is the last two books.

[@ciamciaramcia99]

@@Relixification Oh, my sweet summer child. Sorry, I know this meme is overused and patronizing but I couldn't help myself. There's no way GRRM or frankly anyone could end this series in two books, even if they're the size of "War and Peace". First 300 pages or about 1/3 of TWOW will be the end of ADWD, that's 4 battles (Stannis vs Ramsay, Euron vs Redwynes, Barristan & Victarion vs slaver alliance in Mereen and fAegon taking Storm's End). After that, GRRM will have to cover aftermath of all the crazy shit that just went down, Cersei's Trial, fAegon's conquest, Sansa learning scheming from Littlefinger in the Vale, Arya concluding heir faceless men training in Braavos, Bran's training with 3 eyed raven, Davos' quest to find Rickon in Skagos, Jon's ressurection and the battle of the bastards, end to Stannis' campaign & whatever happens with those Iron Bank mercenaries, Euron's attack on Oldtown, Samwell's training in the Citadel & measter's politics, Dornish plot, whatever happens in Riverlands with Freys, Jamie, Brienne, Stoneheart & the brotherhood, King's Landing politics in aftermath of Kevan's murder & Cersei's trial, Dany going back to Vaes Dothrak & retaking her khalassar, Dany conluding her businness in Essos & sailing west and bunch of other plot points, there's so many I'm sure I've forgotten some of them. Even if he fits all of that in TWOW, last book will have to cover both Dany's invasion of Westeros & the war against Others, which is a tough task, especially for GRRM.

[@dr.jaydeepchudasama]

@@ciamciaramcia99 yup, and that is why it is taking so long, because he has to first complete all the stories that were left at the end of ADWD and then bring all these stories to one single point along with completion of all povs character arcs until this book, so it is a very difficult task, and patience is the only key here!

[@Tate_THG]

Rip for all the people that waited and passed away with only having season 8 of GoT as what is and never what was.

[@Sitking]

It's been 12 years bro

[@parveshthapa4022]

at this rate we will get gta6 before WoW

[@seaica3447]

I honestly feel so bad for him. You can tell he's enjoying being able to be more attached to his new TV projects than he was able to be with GoT, plus with the reaction to how GoT ended, I think he's stressed. We'll get the book eventually, I'm excited but I can wait - there are so many other books and stories to read in the meantime.

[@alethorn9568]

Yeap, is sad for everyone, for him, and so for the readers. The books aren´t gonna be ended, that´s just almost a fact at this point. George is 74 years old, the WOW is ended if maybe before he turns 80. But man, if 7th book takes same than the 6th, with luck if finished almost at 100 years old... Cruel to say, but is red zone right there.

[@OkByeNw]

@@alethorn9568 he did say in the past that if anything happens to him before finishing this series of books he has an agreement with the people that helped him with the World Of A Song Of Ice And Fire book to come in and finish the books based on his notes.

[@OkByeNw]

I basically just want to have some idea of a time frame of when I should start reading the books in anticipation of WoW. It's going to take a long time and I just want to time it well enough that I won't forget most of the information in the books when the new book comes out.

[@MC-810]

I do not feel bad for him because this is self-inflicted. He has chosen to do all of these television shows, and be a Hollywood player rather than a novelist.

[@seaica3447]

@@MC-810 unfortunately for some people, he is a human. He doesn’t even have to finish the books if he really doesn’t want to. If you were that age, you would be retired and be relaxing. I think he’s just doing what makes him happy, and if that’s not enough for some people than I think some people need to rethink their priorities.

[@rjsmind]

I think we all need to accept that this 74 year old man is doing his damnest to not only write the biggest sequel to an already well established story but also make the best show on television right now and is doing many other personal projects while also just living his life. Hope dies last and all but y'know dont hold your breath...

[@Fankas2000]

It's been over a decade.

[@juliad3930]

I am worry that he is very old and it can happen we won't be able to see story finished

[@Esafc-lb2sg]

That might happen, but it doesn’t matter, it’s more important he enjoys himself. I’d rather never read the books and know he enjoyed his final years than get the books and know it made him miserable.

[@Dieter-Doeddel]

This old man should finish the main plot before writing any prequels. It‘s like George Lucas stopping the OT after Empire strikes back to make the sequels and after that fails to finish Return of the Jedi until selling his company to Disney. 🤗

[@mandyhiman436]

@@Dieter-Doeddel u don't know anything. If u think Song of ice and fire is the only main story. He created a whole world from scratch built up thousands of years of history in it. There are many major stories throughout all of it. You can say the Aegon Ist is the main character of all time he was the rightful ruler of the world.

[@HyperEwok1]

I appreciate that PRH"s marketing suits actually allowed George to be this frank about the process.

[@Condobius]

Bro been saying this forever on his blog tho

[@s4mcote]

You got to respect that he wants to put out the best version of Winds of Winter that he can despite the tremendous pressure he must be feeling from fans. In the meantime, House of the Dragon made me buy A Dance with Dragons and I intend to reread all the books until Winds finally comes out.

[@collaborativelearning1]

Winds of Winter hopefully matches the hype.

[@akkaradetsomrak6015]

Winds probably comes out but there is a 0 chance that dream will ever be finished

[@crossface222]

It’s so crazy that one man can create so many things. We love you George. I wish I could spend just an hour inside your mind.

[@dylandlp19]

I don't care what anyone says, I love this man. I think he's a brilliant person and an amazing soul. I'll wait however long it takes for him to finish it and I'll still love him even if he doesn't. What he's given us already is more than enough and I'm thankful for the extra he's trying to give too.

[@PDSREACTION]

Do people hate him?

[@user-ov6ko4ii6z]

@@PDSREACTION check the comments under his tweets

[@johnjoseph6874]

@@PDSREACTIONPeople don’t hate him, they’re just tired and fed up with his procrastination. And rightfully so.

[@iron_labrador]

I'd rather read a good book 10 years from now than a half-assed one right now. Take as much time as you need

[@r824077]

What I am worried about is not Winds of Winter, we will get that one. I am worried about A Dream of Sping. I mean 10 plus years for Winds of Winter, and George is 74 ...

[@RyanSaundercook]

He is 100% not going to finish the story.

[@newworld8546]

yea problem is people said that 10 years ago already

[@frankavila4968]

Dude stfu he don’t got ten years

[@Salty_ZA]

Im confused how some fans dont get this and get mad when GOT season 8 was rushed

[@ebetancor217]

we need to enjoy him ! A legend walks among us!! We love you George !!

[@NikeAureliusSnow]

Can't rush Perfection

[@thecloudedmountain3682]

💯

[@lolz9449]

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[@jojoAKA492]

Plz god....give this man more year in his life

[@Oiseaul]

Besides all the frustration I have from waiting TWOW for so long, I love George ❤ he is such a fun man and one of the most talented writers. May God Bless this man.

[@Chu9947]

Take your time George.

[@sheridan891]

I hope George can appreciate that most people want to read the book because we love his work. I’m sure it’s annoying and frustrating to keep getting the questions and maybe it feels like people are pressing him. Hopefully he understands that it is a compliment the world he built that there is so much hunger for more of it.

[@pankratos5017]

Let's all keep sending lots of love to George! He's been getting so much hate for creating one of the best fantasy series ever written. He needs love, not hate!

[@andersonelias9278]

I hope he's still enjoying the process of writing this book. Because I have a feeling that this one is gonna be the best.

[@dudemistah94]

Nothing I can say can put into words all the appreciation I have for his work. The saga and world already put to page has changed my life. And I love him and it for that. Thank you.

[@hugeiftrue4224]

Straight up respect to the dude’s advanced level of self awareness about his lack of ability to stick to deadlines. You heard it here first team, “one day it’ll be done”

[@maydy7358]

GRRM often says in a way he's writing like 9 separate novels since he has so many view point characters. When I'm trying not to get frustrated by the wait, I just try to remember that. 9 novels in 11 or 13 years is an achivement.

[@Italiano_Strawhat]

Thanks for the update George. Dont give up! We are rooting for you!

[@doctordonnanoble]

According to Brandon Sanderson, GRR Martin is an pantser style writer (does the world building then lets the characters tell the story themselves, rather than starting out with a detailed outline of the entire series before starting writing). It makes for really exciting stories, but also means that complex plot points and timelines become much more difficult to resolve the deeper you go into the story. The show couldn't manage to explain how the characters were teleporting all over the world in the last season, I imagine Martin is doing his best trying to make sense of his massive work - but may have written himself into a corner.

[@dontmindmeonlysauronchecki5346]

I really do believe GRRM's work is like nothing else. It's frustrating to wait, but worth it. Meanwhile I've been reading other books from all sorts of fantasy authors. Keep doing what you do best, George. When Winds of Winter is released, I'll be first in line.

[@leinersuarezcolome4129]

That place will be hard to get

[@GaryCrant]

IF it will be released (I don’t expect TWoW to come out). I’ve read comments like these for the last 8 years 😂

[@Kuzune]

@@chocolatezt "he doesn't owe his fans anything" "If he's got a writing block, he should just say so" These statements are not compatible: he doesn't owe anything, and yet owes an explanation for why writing is slow? No, it's very simple: he does not owe fans neither books nor explanations. Whether or not you owe him anything is irrelevant; I assure you, you have nothing of value to owe him in the first place. This is strictly a one-way relationship, where one side takes and the other gives, and it should be obvious that it's not the taker that gets to determine what should be given.

[@Kuzune]

@@chocolatezt Well, at this point he definitely doesn't need your money. He also doesn't he need the "support" of fans who do nothing but whine and crave. So yeah, I'd argue that right now, you have nothing of value to give in return. When you buy a piece of media, you get that piece of media. You don't get previous entries in a series, you don't get further entries, you get that entry. Neither do you buy any promise of future parts of that story, nor any rights to the authors honesty, or progress reports. Yes, in an ideal world he'd be completely transparent and share exactly what his progress is. In the real world though, a piece of art is never really done, and people rarely know their actual progress. It'd obviously be best if he didn't promise release dates at all... which is exactly what he admits in the video, and says he won't do anymore, so that's a non-issue. As is also said in the video (you could at least watch it), failing to fulfill a prediction is not the same as lying.

[@GaryCrant]

@@Kuzune With your logic the whole concept of a series wouldn’t work at all. This only works with the implied promise of the author to his fans that the series will be finished. If all authors would start dropping series, than nobody would buy their first entries and without that support authors won’t get publishers to invest into their vision.

[@Z3us_19]

His reaction to “When will we see a dream of spring😬 “ y’all gonna kill this man before then

[@scottbecker4367]

He's 74. I don't know if it's being killed at that point.

[@Jakefrmstate0]

Yea I don’t think we will ever get that one

[@zaphodbond]

Yes it sucks waiting so long, but I also appreciate how perfectionist he is and how his vision of the story is so fluid. Our vision of the story also evolve as we discover it so in a way it makes him more in sink with his fans than if he just though about something 20 years ago then just wrote it without ever changing his mind. The worst aspect of the show is that the end didn't seems to fit the rest of the show and it's probably because they wanted to just stick with it no matter what because that's what they understood when they discussed with GRRM so many years ago and did it anyway even if it didn't really fit with the regular flow of the show.

[@deandraalexis]

Hearing him talk about this, it all sounds like exactly the same as my own book - from the distractions in life to the scrapping and rewriting to the pressure of being asked when it will all be done. 12 years in the making and I still haven't finished book 1. Keep crawling, George, and hopefully soon I can get back to doing the same.

[@Gothmaugh]

I dont care how long he takes. I've been reading since the first book came out. You all dont understand the patience it has ALWAYS taken to wait for this man to finish writing. Keep keepin on George!!

[@martythetickler]

He's been working on the Winds of Winter ever since the beginning of the first season of Thrones.

[@FletcherTheCromenockle]

And? He can work on that book the time he wants.

[@myth3516]

@@FletcherTheCromenockle rofl why so defensive

[@THEPRO562]

@@FletcherTheCromenockle Don't be so defensive dude

[@fabybaby]

@@myth3516 everyone coming at george for taking HIS time to write HIS book. Lmfao

[@mikaelmyers6135]

@@fabybaby yeah bro bc he’s made HIS fans wait for over a decade and only recently has he stopped lying about when it would be released.

[@gravestoneXD2]

I'd be honest if George comes out with winds that comes out in a two thousand page book split into a two volume case I would still buy it and would prefer that to what he did with Feast for Crows and Dance Of Dragons.

[@jackurokawa3838]

What did he do with Feast for Crows and Dance of Dragons?

[@adamtideman4953]

@@jackurokawa3838 He split them up into two books. Feast and Dance are two parts of the same book.

[@primeirrational]

Thank you, George, for everything you have done. Every book in your ASOIAF universe has been absolutely terrific. You have already brought me countless of hours of joy. I will be there for you when the next book is released.

[@mrila-x3e]

Mr. GRRM! Pls finish it in the way you are happy with! Don't be pressured by anyone's expectations! Make it good for yourself, not us! We know ur a legend already

[@rh3atube]

LET THE MAN COOK !!! WE LOVE YOU GEORGE! WE ARE HERE FOR YOUR VISION ON YOUR CREATIVE TIMELINE

[@AllTheArtsy]

I'm sure WoW is gonna be published as like a 3-volume book. It has to be. There's so many storylines that need to be wrapped up and consolidated and moved forward. All the support and positive energy to George! Keep going please 💓💓💓

[@NotYourAverageVet]

Hi George! I know you won’t see this but! Thank you for the years of hard work and dedication to A Song of Ice and Fire! I know parts of the community can at times be pretty annoying/ungrateful/toxic. But, don’t think all your fans are like that! I am patiently waiting on WoW. You’ll publish it once it’s done and ready! Much love!

[@sadface6635]

You got this George! As long as you like writing it, we like reading it!

[@Kgregory18]

The fact that he made this many amazing books already makes it ok, I'd love to see it finished, but I hate to see anyone rushed in a creative work. Take your time George, we'll eagerly wait!

[@kdsix9]

Please don't die before finishing the book!

[@SJPace1776]

I honestly would pay a thousand dollars without hesitation to finally have Winds of Winter. There is no book in my life I've wanted more. I waited for Crowsand then longer for Dragons, Winter has been much of my life now. All the rules get thrown out in regards to common sense with it. If the publisher wants to charge me silly money so be it. Love you George and your amazing work, I hope he knows that.

[@Seskoi]

I can write some version of Winds of Winter for you if you'd like!

[@arandomambipom9444]

It would be horse shy,eite

[@Daniel-ds4oq]

Such an interesting and creative person, we are lucky to receive whatever Ser Martin bestows upon us

[@darj617]

The most important thing is his health and quality of life. If he finishes it, great! If not, then we still have all the wonderful stories he's given us so far.

[@otocan]

The problem is that he's given us one big story that he's not able to finish.

[@robmccoy5207]

Take your time. Do it right, do it well. We'll love it when it gets here.

[@devostripes5964]

Wish him all the best, he has already done so much for Fantasy and literature as a whole

[@RuffinItAB]

The pressure to make a book that fulfils all fan expectations must be borderline overwhelming. On top of winds of winter he also has had projects writing for House of the Dragon, Elden ring, and likely more that I'm missing. I hope he gets it done but it's also hard not to feel bad with how much pressure he's under

[@quintessence2183]

Don't forget Fire and Blood! That was an entire 800 page book.

[@niranjanrajesh1058]

Forget about fulfilling fans expectations my friend,its a nightmare to tie all the loose ends together,we are in the final two books and there needs to be a bunch of plots that coalesce,and they need to coalesce in a manner that doesn't break any rules,prophecies,character behaviour etc. That is hard enough for regular books,but to do that for a universe with as many varied characters as ASOIAF is scary

[@shrimpydads]

This book may take awhile but A Dream of Spring will practically write itself.

[@Jakefrmstate0]

That might never come out

[@umanuu]

Theres a saying with writing and creativity: “if nothing’s coming out, it means nothings coming in” Meaning, if you are struggling to create/write/etc, it means that you aren’t experiencing enough new things to act as muses Maybe George ironically enough needs to take a vacation and visit Europe, visit Asia, visit the world to find musings in these travels Because while a lot of great ideas come from the man - I can’t imagine sitting and locking yourself up in a room and thinking through a soultion to something is going to resolve creative speedbumps (same goes for talks and interviews) Man needsa vacation from his mind

[@username_hu]

Jeremy Soule, is that you?

[@44r0n-9]

The dude is working on like 20 tv productions lol

[@Pantano63]

Also, you have to put IN the work so stuff comes OUT. The fact that he's involved in other creative projects means inspiration might not be the issue here.

[@saintbastion]

@@username_hu wise mystical tree

[@rustyspigot1876]

Look at the rest of these nose-up-ass comments.... this is the only even slightly critical statement and its only responses are even more nose-up-ass comments. In the highly unlikely event that stay-puff actually finishes this series I'll probably ignore it on principle. He had one job....

[@FOUADMKHAN]

When he says one day it will be done somehow I find that to be more inspirational than any inspirational speaker ever. Think about the scale of what this man has created and then the scale of whatever it is you are working with. One day it will be done.

[@hiswayservicesblog9288]

Glad to hear it's making progress! But people who are not writers don't understand the concept of tweaking the work until the author is satisfied with it. He wants to write the best book possible, and sometimes things in the draft just are dissatisfactory, and the urge to fix it is like a constant itch. And finding inspiration for that fix doesn't always come as easily as people think, no matter how hard the author brainstorms! So, although I'm also anxious for the book to be finished...people, if you're not walking in George's shoes, please cut him some slack! Being a writer is a glorious path to live, but the ruts and blocks that come along the way are a real challenge to tackle. And remember, challenges take time and they include sometimes gritty effort.

[@edpistemic]

We love you, George! We love the books you've written and the world you've created. We only keep asking because we're so desperate for more of the magic you've given us and we're desperate to know what your incredible imagination will bring us next! Much love, from all your fans.

[@Bullrunnerrr]

I can't wait to read this to my grandkids in 2060

[@Yellowstone_1]

Idk why there’s so much hate let him take his time to finish a good story , don’t be bitching for it to come sooner, than y’all are gonna be crying about it being rushed

[@mutz6248]

exactly, people are going to forget about the wait the moment they realize he's written another masterpiece

[@jejsemin33]

Keep on keeping on George, we are all excited for it!

[@3nigma.3nc]

I hope the stress isn't deteriorating his health. This man is too precious to lose right now.

[@jsprechs7847]

Dear publishing house. If you could please hire a man to follow him around and cast away any distractions that prevent him from finishing this goddamn book, I believe we would all chip in to that GoFundMe.

[@davi1415]

Whether he finishes the book or not, I still highly respect the man for creating a very interesting fantasy setting.

[@vinodvagadurgi414]

To be frank I must say that winds of winter deserves all the hype Goshhh I am right now reading final part of a dance with dragons and there is this sadness while reading it coz next part is not available I didn’t worry about it while reading a feast for the crows But the work is so beautiful it’s almost like missing all the characters and amazing writing that George Martin has put in a song of ice and fire Really I can’t wait for winds of winter Also George Martin should take all the time it requires untill he feels it’s upto the mark And keep re writing till it meets his desired standards I think that’s how fans of a song of ice and fire will enjoy the way story line goes Straight from the source 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 That day is going to be another gift

[@mrcat3493]

It’s a big book…filled with even more descriptions of food.

[@rambleon33]

We love you, George. With this story you have given us your heart, and the best years of your life. The rabidity of your fandom is a testament to the inspiration of these years, and the depth of that heart. We will love you if you finish. We will love you if you don't. Thank you for all these books have given me. It's already enough. More than enough. Hugs. Courage. Lemon Cakes.

[@jacobrcolon]

We've all got the time to wait for these masterpieces. The real hope is that he lives a long life where he is able to complete them to his satisfaction

[@natechenry]

We may have all the time but he doesn’t. If we are lucky we will only get the Winds of winter. The last one definitely wont be coming.

[@jellyshark8639]

@@natechenry thats a sad reality and he also has not told anyone the ending so its another unfinished masterpiece like berserk in the event he dies 😭

[@jazaniac]

@@natechenry yeah I don’t think people realize that when someone is in their 70s, not only does mental decline start to set in, you’re basically rolling the dice each year on some fatal illness. So it’ll get harder for him to write and his time limit will continue to shrink.

[@noxe6413]

let s be honest, the universe is too big and has too much potential to be left to die.If he doesn t finish the series somebody will definitely take control and write in the universe.And if not we will have many shows and movies in the future.

[@jensraab2902]

"We've all got the time to wait for these masterpieces." - You may have the time, and I'm very confident that I have the time. But not everybody has it. You talk as if humans were immortal; let me assure you they are not. I have seen various cases of cancer in my family. My sister-in-law has been diagnosed in her 30s. She has survived it but one never knows. For all I know, I could get run over by a car in 10 minutes when I go running. (And obviously any of this could happen to Martin as well.)

[@IBrinkI]

*finish what you started! it’s very sad that the consensus is we’ll never get the series finished bc he will pass away.* Looks more and more like he can’t think of a way to wrap everything up bc what we saw in the show was generally how it was going to end but everyone hated it so he’s stuck scrambling for years.

[@captainaryan26]

I mean, in a pragmatic way, it's just 400 pages 😂

[@ellielouise7005]

love you and your books george whenever it comes i will enjoy it and if it never comes youve had ten lifetimes worth of books and legacy and hope ypu are happy!!

[@KalifUmestoKalifa]

The Dream of Spring, it seems, will remain just a dream.

[@theM4R4T]

Looking good, George.

[@InAverySilentWay]

Quality over quantity. Consider the multitudes of lore and history contained in the world of ASOIAF. He's given us a gift with his world of fantasy. I can't imagine anyone has wanted these books to be done as much as he has. For anyone who has pursued any creative form, you know the frustration that comes when you want to create but feel at an impasse. Of course, I want TWOW and ADOS, but also, Fire and Blood 2, the rest of the Dunk and Egg novellas, and anything else he's able to give us. In the meantime, I'm sure GRRM would want us to expand our horizons and seek out other writers that make our imaginations grow. Whenever the next installment comes out I'll be grateful and ready.

[@CorpsmanPrivateer]

Except the quality of his work goes down with the amount of years he spends on it. His editor needs to step in.

[@chronikhiles]

Sure, it's complex and hard to pin down a lot of details, but it wouldn't take a decade to release a book if he were a disciplined writer, or set some goals in terms of words per week. He's the kinda guy who waits for inspiration to strike, which any writer knows happens more happen when you actually work.

[@ferniek5000]

❤️❤️❤️Love to you George! Thank you for your beautiful and meaningful works.❤️❤️❤️

[@TrippyyTreyyy]

Forget all th people life happens not yur fault thank you for all yhe hard work and great stuff you have already gave us

[@dvsat12]

so we are like 2 more years away! along with the editing and publishing process another year

[@Vahapetautus]

He has so much pressure on him. The main reason people are pressuring him so much is because he’s getting on now, we all really want to see him release the books but the sad part of life is that he may not have too long left.

[@captainaryan26]

And if ending turns out to be bad, fans would definitely rant out

[@Miluriel]

I can’t wait for WoW, and honestly, this makes me even more excited to read it! Long books are the best books, especially if they’re part of ASoIaF :)

[@battlebrothertifesrolilios4423]

When the stars blink out and the universe experiences heat death the only things floating in the endless empty void is going to be JRR Martain, a type writer, and the winds of winters manuscript

[@McCrapweasel]

George, take all the time you need.

[@raulbaruah8527]

Its taking times coz i think when it comes it will be a Masterpiece of work for sure..

[@Starman.2957]

This is by far his most hardest book to finish

[@frozenandchosen]

I’m 23 now and I honestly think about the fact that it’s a very real possibility I could spend the next 60 or so years of my life wishing we got the ending to this series

[@TheWalkingDavid]

The existing books have spanned a 30 year stretch of time. As people have gotten more used to immediate answers and faster and faster gratification, they have put more and more pressure on classic writers to finish books that used to take years to complete. If you put too much stress on this man, he may not love long enough to finish these books. Just understand that you may wait another 10 years for the entire series to be done, or that you may only get this next book and not the last one. It can happen. Best start planning for the worst and hope for the best. You’re doing great George. Stay healthy. Write when it comes to you.

[@twincast2005]

I genuinely sympathize with the pressure he's under from both himself and everyone else, and the fact that books don't just magically write themselves, especially stories as sprawling and detailed as A Song of Ice and Fire. And I truly hope he gets to enjoy many more decades regardless of whether he ever finishes this series (and Dunk & Egg). And I totally respect his not wanting anyone else to finish it if the worst case scenario comes to pass (although with the TV show already having done a... version, there's really no further damage that could be done by such). What I can't respect and really hope he's done a 180° on is that all notes and drafts be destroyed in case of his death. Imagine if we hadn't had Christopher Tolkien compiling and releasing J.R.R.'s unfinished work!

[@Bentbire]

In the time since the last book came out I have gone through all of middle school, high school, and now college

[@jamesgreen6171]

Just don't die in the next 15 years

[@number9lives]

He's such a fantastic person with an even more incredible talent. I hope this hasn't become a labour rather than a love to write. If it takes ten years to finish and he's happy with them, that's all the readers can ask for

[@CalculonTV]

Why doesn’t he already publish the first 500-1000 pages or something like that beforehand in a shorter book? The price would be adjusted to that, so it would be cheaper and fand could get something to read instead of annoying him with questions.

[@lizzard1138]

A man exhausted and absolutely haunted by the pressure to finish what he started. Free George R. Martin. Let him live out his days as he sees fit without this burden.

[@charles597]

The poor man unfortunately will not finish it. You can tell he knows that as well. Pray he has a good enough successor in place in some way.

[@shaunhall960]

As a reader of science fiction and fantasy for over 48 years I read whatever is on the bookshelves of my library or favorite book store. I learned a long time ago not to get impatient about books that might come out. They will either come out in due time or not. The joy for me is discovering something new in the moment that I am living. There are absolutely no guarantees in life and to believe so is seating yourself up for disappointment.