How To Set The Timing Correctly On Volkswagen TSI Engines

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Gerard Burke

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@chrissmith7069 9 ай бұрын

Spot on advice Gerard! Always markup before removing the original belt even with the timing locked in position! ❤

@ozstargarage 6 ай бұрын

VW say you need to change the cam bolts which adds another layer of complexity to the job as the gears are simply floating, what is your take on that?

@aden3113 10 ай бұрын

I did a timing belt on my 1,4 on my seat, slightly older engine (BBY) with a little different setup but very similar. I always mark the belt, sprockets and the engine block for reference, then I transfer the marks from the old belt to the new and just put it in the same way I took it out. No way to mess it up if you line up the marks and count the tooth in between. And of course like any belt job it's a good idea to spin the engine by hand a couple rotations to make sure the marks line up again.

@cjbm2764 4 ай бұрын

One question if someone can reply me… I did it exactly how you say but at the time to spin de engine bu hand the marks never line up again, what could happened??

@ΡένοςΟρφανίδης 2 ай бұрын

@@cjbm2764 Nothing they will never do again probably just watch the marks you did on block snd sprockets not the belt ones

@AlanCooney 7 ай бұрын

Brilliant video, thanks!!! I will be doing same job on 2013 Golf 1.4 tsi. EA211 engine. Your tips are 10 times better than any Haynes manual!!!

@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage 7 ай бұрын

Cheers Alan, I really appreciate the feedback 🙏🙌👌

@MiracleMAX 10 ай бұрын

I've only done the timing chain on the 1.4 Golf. Same deal with the special tools, paint marker and plenty of patience

@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage 10 ай бұрын

100% mate, patience in workshops is often not afforded to Techs based on costs, book times and customer expectations. To successfully do these jobs solo I believe the right tools need to be supplied or there is a high risk of mistiming which can lead to poor performance, running rough, poor fuel economy etc... Sometimes expectations do not match reality and as techs we should encourage the use of correct tooling (which I know you absolutely do) especially for the individuals that are attempting this type of work without having a good amount of experience doing timing belts. Risk vs Reward : |

@MiracleMAX 10 ай бұрын

@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage Totally agree. You can't expect quality workmanship from staff if the correct equipment is not provided.

@chubbychequer1512 10 ай бұрын

I just paint mark them, then i know the cams spring but i put them back to marks while someone holds them and i put the belt back on. Always fine

@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage 10 ай бұрын

Nice one 🙌👌👍💪 Having a second person to help is a key there. Good job 🙌

@khamale3787 Ай бұрын

Great video. In short time correctly advised.

@MrJohnderby 5 ай бұрын

I’ve paid two mechanics to do mine recently the second was a v w dealer and I’m still getting the yellow exhaust alarm on my golf !

@MAIEMI 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, I wanted to know if the 1.5 tsi displacement has an external belt and if the latest 1.5 tsi evo has an oil bath belt. Thank you

@docseymunthali1508 Ай бұрын

This will be very useful hv one exactly like that that hv to do today l will be the hero of day❤

@gemmanaughton3693 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great video!

@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage 10 ай бұрын

Thank you :)

@patkelly7999 10 ай бұрын

Great video Gerard, very informative, Thank You🙏🙏👍🙂

@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Pat 🇮🇪🇮🇪🍀🍀🙏🙏🙌🙌

@erhanorman5012 9 ай бұрын

I had an 2018 1.5 tsi should i need some special tool for replacement

@Mixter81 6 ай бұрын

If there is ACT or double variators (this one video does only have one varitator - adjustable valve timing) you need dealer specific computerized advanced timing tools.

@AJB1 Ай бұрын

@@Mixter81 I think it's the later engines (eg 1.5 maybe) that needs the computerised timing tool. I think the earlier 1.4, even with ACT and adjusters on both cams, just uses a mechanical looking tool. That said, as I understand it, the official instructions want you to loosen off both cam sprockets, put the new belt on, then tighten them. The sprockets aren't splined onto the camshafts, so that lets the sprockets theoretically get positioned in the perfect place for the new belt. How that works if there's play in the tool I don't know... Not sure if it's just a cheap badly made tool that has play, or if even the official VW ones would?

@Mixter81 Ай бұрын

@AJB1 VW said all EA211 engines MUST use the computerized angle timing belt tool. VAS 611 007 is the tool to use.

@AJB1 Ай бұрын

@@Mixter81 Have they changed their advice then? The older official guides I've seen say to use T10494 which is a physical looking tool, not the expensive computerised one. I thought it was the newer EA211 engines which needed the new computerised tool, rather than that they now say to use that for all.

@Mixter81 Ай бұрын

@@AJB1 From what I know, it is maybe occasionaly possible to change the belt without loosening the cambelt bolts. 1 of 10 changes fail in this manner. Check engine light and timing issues, gas mileage is worse etc. Will not be the same car anymore. It requires precision. But if loosening the bolts, the expensive VAS 611 007 tool must be used. But if you could check on an authorized VW mechanic shop, would be nice to have some feedback. There is older EA211 and newer EA211 Evo engines. They are a bit different just a littlebit I dont know but share same core system? Belt last much longer on Evo engines from what I know.

@George-wh7xs 4 ай бұрын

Good video.

@chubbychequer1512 10 ай бұрын

I dont use any locking tools on these, paint marks only always been good

@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage 10 ай бұрын

Fair play, What do you use to adjust the cams or lock them in place?

@kie185 8 ай бұрын

Loads of marking thought i was the only one , is there a keyway in the crankshaft pulley just wondering

@AlanCooney 7 ай бұрын

YES! I think crankshaft pulley has a keyway!!! Much better design than stupid Ford!!!

@AJB1 Ай бұрын

@@AlanCooney Yes, I think the crankshaft does have a keyway, but the camshafts don't.

@tipptop9 2 ай бұрын

If you think this is complicated, have a look at the TSI with ACT procedure 😂😂. I see laser have an alternative to the vag tool out now... £1000!!!

@2226cc 3 ай бұрын

Is that a 1.4? I thought they had inlet and exhaust cam phasers. This looks more like the 1.2 (CJZ[A-D] engine codes). So that little red plastic tool that fits between the cams and has pointers to show the cams are correctly aligned. Part "C" in your kit. The question is, why do the cams get out of sync during vehicle operation? Is it because there is no woodruff key on the cams and things can shift over time? Is it the inlet cam phaser still turned? I've heard people do all the marks they want, but the cams are still out of sync. There's a super expensive VAS611007 electronic tool that is used to get the timing in spec, but I'm confused as to whether that is needed for an engine like this (CJZA-CJZD) which has only an inlet cam phaser. DIYing on cars is dying. Getting a bit complicated with expensive tool requirements, all for very little gain. Or... I'm just getting old ... "they don't make them like they used to" 😁

@AJB1 Ай бұрын

Or is it that the tolerance on timing is tight enough that variations from belt to belt can put it out? That's the only reason I can see for why the official instructions would want the sprockets loosened from the camshafts before fitting the new belt then tightening again. I can't imagine they shift/move over time, so the only difference would be the new belt vs the old belt.

@2226cc Ай бұрын

@@AJB1 Could be. But surely that slack is taken up by the tensioner. Could just be due to the nature and variances in the cam adjuster. Requirements for such expensive tools and complicated procedures on cars which are meant to be basic models is just going to turn them into junk. Tons of plastic and metal turning into waste. I feel gone are the days of cars living a good long life. Engines like these which are common really shouldn't have such tedious timing procedures.

@AJB1 Ай бұрын

@@2226cc The tensioner is on the slack side of the belt, but the critical length is on the drive side which should always be tight. I do agree with you about complex procedures and special tools, but even my old 1.9TDI made in 2002 (ALH engine in a Skoda Octavia) was supposed to have the injector pump pulley loosened from the pump shaft, I assume for the same reason. Then you had to use diagnostic tools like VCDS to check and adjust the timing of the pump. The main dealer didn't bother doing that when I got the belt changed, and when I checked with VCDS it was out of spec, so I had to go back, show them how to use their tools, and make them do it properly!