Ghosts In Depth - Burst Fire Increases Damage

[@MDUBZ]

Driftor's "secret reason" to why the AK-12 is bad with Burst is that it has INCREASED recoil on the first shot. This is also why the Honey Badger, FAD, ARX, and R5 are good because they have REDUCED recoil on their first shot. Thumbs up so people can see.

[@josephnicholasgallan]

I've tried the FAD with burst fire. The range is honestly too low for it in my opinion.

[@DPantherful1]

"They all basically turn into a different version of the MSBS" SC-2010 - - - SC-BS AK-12 - - - - - AK-BS Remington R5 - R5BS FAD - - - - - - FABS ARX-160 - - - BS - 160 Honey Badger - Honey Bull SA-805 - - - - SA-BS

[@alexcorral8370]

This is perfect 😂😂😂

[@TWH-lp4bn]

*BS-2010 *BS-805

[@JamesthePizzaMan]

Honey B

[@Shark_Theory]

Every time i die to this or the msbs WOW THATS BS

[@codylramey]

Wow it seems like this game went all out on the balancing. The only bad thing is that each of these guns essentially becomes clones of one another with slight differences. But i guess thats ideal compared to one gun domination all others.

[@rihohv]

In life most guns are clones of each other the same way. They have different caliber bullets(damage), different weight(movement speed), irons, fire modes, look, mag size etc. The developers have done a good job of getting the feel of the weapons into the game. One thing i would like that they could add is weapon reliability. When you go into water, dust gets in your weapon. Meaning Guns can jam, break, get malformed etc.

[@rtyrtyrty123123123]

Guns are balanced?

[@rihohv]

***** Imo, after the last few installments CoD needs all the new innovations/design it can get.

[@codylramey]

***** You havent played flooded on ghost yet have you? You can go completely underwater then get out. As for water effecting a gun i cant comment on that. I dont know much about it.

[@codylramey]

***** You must be skipping it haha. I know i got a kill then fell in the water. Somebody shot me in the water so i lost my cranked :(

[@sXeGod]

Looks like IW and Treyarch rewards players who use burst fire and semi auto.

[@invaderguy78]

sXeGod Get a gun with high regular fire rate, get semi auto on a gun with 1.5x multiplier with semi auto. Train trigger finger. Done.

[@manny75586]

Much credit to Driftor for reassessing the 'MSBS is OP' and redoing the burst attachment video in light of that. The MSBS is just another rifle that has an attachment 'built in' like the ARX has laser built in. The real determining factor would be to see if the MSBS is still 2 shot with the full auto. I haven't had a chance to test it on bots but I ran the full auto with it (because it is easier to strafe with a full auto weapon) and it seems like it is taking 3-4 to kill at short to medium range. (unless it is a headshot then they die immediately) If the MSBS is still 2 shot with full auto, THEN the OP complaints become more valid. I agree with him about the remington. That thing with burst just beasts on people in very cruel ways. Honestly it is probably even dirtier than the MSBS is because the iron sight on the MSBS are not functional in anyway. Basically anyone not running a burst AR is just making life more difficult for themselves. (which is fine if that is what you wish to do)

[@R41N3LLGaming]

MSBS also kill in two hits without depending on a damage multiplier, makes it more OP.

[@Louey7777]

I'm glad it is that way though... You have to sacrifice the ability of full auto, for more damage - but in bursts

[@enjoshi-godrez8271]

there is a lmg that kill in 2 shots and is full auto, with rapid fire on in it becomes quite a monster

[@R41N3LLGaming]

Ameli, more like the M60. Not considered OP with its terrible accuracy.

[@enjoshi-godrez8271]

R41N3LLGaming this isn't battle field, in cod when you aim down sights you get 100% accuracy, I think what you mean is it has terrible hipfire but so does the msbs.

[@FreedomExperiment]

Good video. This has facts instead of opinions! I didn't know about the multiplier. I didn't hear this mention that the ARX has reduced recoil for the first three rounds. This really helps make it an accurate burst rifle. It's normally high fire rate also translates into faster burst fire rates. I will try out the R5, but in my private match testing it seemed to be noticeably slower... The ARX is an accurate single fire beast up to around medium range as well. A lot Like the FAL in previous COD versions.

[@DeadEndKing]

Hey Drift0r I haven't played a CoD game in who knows how long, but I keep watching your videos because I still find them entertaining. Keep up the great work!

[@Nhadaly]

When i first saw the title i was like "Didnt i see this before?" then i realised that the previous one was for Semi Auto.

[@Youtube_Heros_Police_Force]

I can never watch In-Depth's. "An error" occurs on EVERY one I try to watch.

[@MillsyBDA]

Check back in 30 mins, sometimes there is a problem with the video processing on KZbin that doesn't allow it to be shown to some people.

[@animesuxlul]

Oh no... Now the Remington R5 is the MSBS. Thank you Driftor for creating an overpowered class.

[@Malpaise_Legate]

Gotta love how I clicked a link in the last video telling me it would take me to Drift0rs MTAR-X review, and it brought me here.

[@Scottdick6]

Mathematically I would presume the FAD would be the best. Highest fire rate, maximum of 3 shot kill assuming torso or above (25 min x 1.5). This with grip and muzzle break. Due to the MSBS nerf this would retain a 3 burst kill vs 5 for the msbs and have a higher fire rate and still kill 2 shots to the torso. When put against the arx, the arx cannot kill in one burst at any range and shoots faster. agreed?

[@luisserrano4707]

bad range

[@josephnicholasgallan]

Actually I attempted it.....it's actually TERRIBLE. It has very low range, so the 2 shot kill range is tiny.

[@ioanna4227]

nope I'm pretty sure AK-12 is one of the best because it has 2nd highest damage next to Remington-R5 but it has a higher fire rate, barely any recoil, amazing iron sight (in my opinion), and good range Remington-R5 just has better range and low fire rate

[@definitelyarussianpaidtrol1406]

I think FAD and MSBS should be changed.. We remember in MW3 the fad was 3 round burst (well for when I had it) and if the fad has better 3 shot kill range . then the MSBS should be full auto + it is IRL

[@josephnicholasgallan]

xXiCrazyHD The FAD was never a three round burst weapon in MW3 and it was always a 4 shot kill or more.....where did you get that idea?

[@yazanaqrabawi]

This attachment helped me alot at longshots so i can complete the crocodile camo for the honneybadger and the ak 12 got both gold yeah! And it improved my K/D ratio

[@NIKLASSOLVBERGOVERBY]

Drift0r, shouldnt your advice in the end of the video be something like: "If you want to use this attachment, use the MSBS instead." Then you wont have to waste an attachment on it.

[@brainwasher9876]

Remington with this attachment feels a lot like the M16A4 from CoD4. Slow RPM, high kick, but very dangerous.

[@woodrowjang]

SPOILER: The AK 12 has increased 1st shot recoil.

[@giantsnerd]

I tweeted you a week ago about this. ARX with burst is deadly, especially with muzzle brake. Description of ARX also says highest rate of fire and reduced recoil for 1st three rounds, so it has less of a penalty on view kick and centerspeed.

[@Sullivancas]

The eotech sight has a built it range/ damage modifier indicator. It tells you what percent damage your bullets do at the range you are pointing at. Is this accurate? Please make an eotech sight video including this, I think it is overlooked, and the EOtech seems very good, I use it because I have a hard time seeing people because of big maps and coloring, so I find the enhanced zoom helpful. More helpful would be the indicator basically telling you (assuming you know base damage) how many bullets you need to kill

[@kyledog12]

I use Remington R5 with fore-grip, burst fire, and holographic sight. Then (perks) extra attachment, steady aim, quick reload, and off the grid. Very good. Almost no recoil and very deadly

[@theDEPTHSofDOOM]

Drift0r Nice. This has me excited. Looking forward to getting home and trying it out. Looking forward to the new MSBS review as well as the MTAR finally lol

[@NASCARExpert]

That's kind of ass backwards how the game tells you that the use of this attachment is that it gives you better accuracy, when it actually makes it worse. People that don't know a lot about the technical side of this game are at a huge disadvantage.

[@Tasoittaja]

Well, I think this makes the competitive gaming in cod even more interesting (assuming its allowed)

[@3rdGenGuy]

If you miss the first burst, you get fucked.

[@GRATUXMc]

The Super Remington R5 Attachments -Grip -Red dot sight/Thermal Scope -Burst fire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perks -Xtra attachment -Scavenger -Quickdraw/Marathon

[@squaretheroot]

Damn Drif0r, that compression looks godawful!

[@BoisegangGaming]

when you put a foregrip and tracker sight on the ARX it looks like a weapon that would be seen 500 years into the future...

[@EvErLoyaLEagLE]

Excellent, another attachment that potentially increases damage. Thanks Drift0r and Marvel4

[@fbgchichitm]

this on the honey badger makes it a beast and it sometimes kills in 1 shot in heavy duty

[@MDUBZ]

Everytime I watch a Driftor video I increase my volume just to hear the intro blow out my headphones.

[@_imago]

AK-12's secret is, it has a special recoil thing. First shots recoil a lot more. I think he told about it in In Depth video.

[@petegeorge1994]

Infinity Ward: "I have no idea what I'm doing".

[@flamesword300]

Driftor needs to do a vid on the burst attachment on marksmen rifles. Because If they get a damage and fire rate increase could be OP. because they kill in a headshot at most ranges then it could kill in one shot if the multiplier is high enough at range they kill in 2. Since it shoots 3 rounds at a times has very high chances of dropping people insanely fast. Especially considering the SVU is a 2 shot kill at all range by default.

[@NooBHatteR112]

I love how the mtar-x is still the next review for the past 3 videos XD

[@bossKATSIII]

I believe Nadeshot also did a video on this with the R5 after the MSBS was banned from competitive. But as always great video!

[@PourTheCoalToEr]

Soooo what about the burst fire attachment on the Marksmen Rifles? Surely that doesn't increase damage.

[@aprofessionalcitizen9030]

That would be ridiculous. I hope not. I mean, with a 1.5 body multiplier most marksman rifles will two shot to ridiculous ranges, effectively forever. Combine that with a fast 3 round burst and they could easily have a better one hit (in this case one burst) kill potential than any of the snipers, even a chrome lined USR/Lynx. They would also have much greater rates of fire. Heck, it would be as over powered as the G11, but more so. I hope Drift0r puts something up about marksmens.

[@757reaper]

It wouldn't, from what I've been picking up is that it still like 2-3 shots to kill. My friend can't use semi-auto weapons, but he put the burstfire on the Marksmen, and he started droppin people like birds. It's slow ADS and Terrible Hipfire still make it fair though.

[@rayjackson1952]

I noticed this, and thought about you when I put a burst fire onto a Remington. I still like the MSBS more, but it is not over powered.

[@guvnoir23]

Not going to address the marksman rifles with burst fire?

[@darianthescorpion1132]

the footage you used with the R5 reminds me of an M16. Cool.

[@3rdsspanzerdivisiontotenko360]

I run AK-12 w/ Burst Fire, Muzzle Break and AP Rounds plus the Deadeye Perk. Killing machine!

[@3rdsspanzerdivisiontotenko360]

It's actually not possible to run that i got confused lol i haven't played ghosts in a while. thanks tho man :)

[@RODMAN-xj7mz]

The Burst Fire attachment helped me get the autumn camo

[@ThatBluePit]

I knew I wasn't crazy. I thought my SC-2010 was two shotting with burst fire and this proves it

[@davnnk]

I love this attachment on the SC-2010.

[@JakeBaz]

there is an err0r and its pissing me off like the 5th tiym now, aint nobody got time for that!

[@ulzrintheswift715]

Pre-patch the msbs was a one~two burst kill on any body part

[@josephnicholasgallan]

The MSBS 2-3 (or 4?) shot kill weapon just like these. But its recoil was decent, the range was good and the fire rate was too high for a two shot kill weapon.

[@BluPanther55]

Driftor, the marksman rifles with burst fire are very strong!

[@phantomchariot4805]

that gun look on the picture of the video looks like the FAD

[@6487ichigotheman]

I already knew that because the coding with burst fire matches the MSBS just like the semi auto attachment it has the damage of the marksmen rifles

[@Bleak5170]

Well that's really awesome because Ghosts so needed faster kill times.

[@fj7509]

agro beaver...this is the FUTURE.ya,hard to believe,but weapons are FUTURISTIC

[@ModelOmegaForReal]

IF Logic: Firing your gun in bursts increases recoil and/or damage Adding a brake increases range but doesn't decrease recoil

[@zx6guy]

Thanks for your work on this Driftor.

[@LookAtMeOrUDie]

Burst Fire is not meant for the Ak-12 because secretly the Ak-12 is (IMO) the strongest AR in the game, I've tested it with some friends. The AK-12 already has a 3 shot kill at far ranges which beats the Remington at it but at mid range the Remington beats it but the AK-12 is still better and Burst Fire is not needed for it because it's already op.

[@LookAtMeOrUDie]

That is why in his Semi-Auto video he actually recommended it because it turns it into a two shot, but with burst fire, the recoil on it gets bad even with fore grip on burst fire. The Remington recoil goes vertical while the Ak-12's goes Horizontal which creates it hard to actually land your bullets on target.

[@shellmex2252]

Hey drift0r so I completed the 44 acog akimbo challenge you suggested and it worked. Of course your k/d goes to shit while doing the challenge but afterwards I was getting 2.0 games most of the time. And when I use extremely "op" guns like the msbs I was getting kems like nobodys business. Everyone do the challenge it may be a bitch but its worth it in the end!!!!

[@Zampa91network]

"an error occurred" what's going on???? i want to see the video!!!!

[@m3th05]

so, how much OP is the MSBS now?

[@Drift0r]

Not nearly as much as it was before. In that, I was wrong.

[@netsfan100]

Nathan Butler try again later

[@DrumbosWaffles]

Nathan Butler You're going to have to wait a few mins. It usually starts up after you wait for a certain time.

[@RenAI98]

I think the burst fire might be especially useful on the arx because thr first three shots by default fire faster according to the description, so its rof change might be really beneficial with the attachment

[@sirxk14]

No the first three rounds fire at reduced recoil not faster you are thinking of the An-94 from BO2. So i assume that you did not read the description of the ARX.

[@Qav999]

Zack Flint Nonetheless though, wouldn't the ARX have really good recoil reduction with burst fire/single fire?

[@NoCIemency]

Nice video, you should do one on the vmr sight and the difference in raise up time between the different sight attachments.

[@snakedoctor6969]

Driftor driftor i played with you the other night on ground war S1L3NT SaVaGe youre awesome dude.keep up the great work!!!

[@treystwins]

Nice, wouldn't have ever tried the burst fire on my ARs. I wonder how the Deadeye perk effects the additional body multipliers from burst fire.

[@Jiins2]

Great, the video won't play.. This has been happening so often lately

[@bobbyc3991]

I always go for 3 round burst in any shooter but never considered it in this game because you die so fast. Might need to try it out now.

[@anthonyrichard305]

I LOVE ur in depths driftor!

[@MrKoala234]

Driftor, you didn't mention how the burst fire attachment works on the Marksman Rifles.. :(

[@JYMBO]

"Lower Test" ...lol ouch!

[@PhatMikeSP1]

Thanx driftor, I thought the arx 160 felt stronger with burst attachment, I put it on because first 3 rounds have reduced recoil which with foregrip and burst makes it a laser, but it still feels weak at long range, med to short is nice unless lag steps in

[@zazarein]

I really like ghosts in depth

[@SammyBammy20]

I tried out the R5 and Honey Badger with burst mode after watching this and they're still nowhere near as good as the MSBS. Well at least not for my playstyle anyway. As much as I love it it is OP compared to the other ARs. I'm fine with it being nerfed as long as they nerf the snipers, which are essentially the same thing but 1-hit kills and don't have a huge drop of at range.

[@DavidM7698]

Does anyone have an opinion on whether the Burst fire or Semi-auto attachment is better on the Honey Badger?

[@josephnicholasgallan]

Probably burst fire. Semi auto makes it a two shot kill, but you have to tap the button. So unless you have a really good trigger finger, then probably just stick with the burst fire because it's easier to use and it kills faster on average.

[@NIKLASSOLVBERGOVERBY]

Burst fire. At long range, you might need 5 shots (if you hit legs or arms) to kill, and Burst Fire is more forgiving. I would reccommend Burst Fire on the FAD instead though. A 1.5x torso multiplier means that it is a 1 burst kill at all ranges, assuming all bullets hit the torso, neck or head. ;) (FAD long range damage is 25. 25*1.5=37.5)

[@phantomchariot4805]

I like using the select fire

[@vistastructions]

Was this on the Xbox 360 or the Xbox One? The graphics look better, but he is still promoting Scufs, which are for 360 currently.

[@Zoinkoman135]

Pardon my French, but you're fucking awesome Driftor.

[@Sullivancas]

I was half expecting you to say something like that in french

[@TheDrunkenReturn]

Server lag, you can increase your damage because you ''steal'' the data budget from the other players so you get more data per second. I do it on bf3/4 on the pc, even with a good server. You always have some sort of lag unless you're at a lan or local.

[@TheBatman777]

Thanks for these videos but i feel like I didn't get enough comparison between this and single fire. Can you make a quick video purely for comparison? Three vs single

[@MikeeeyysMods]

An error occured, please try again later. Learn More Google is getting better by the day!

[@timv4342]

Is there anything interesting if you have the MSBS with the automatic attachment?

[@Ghostblade787]

Overpowered guns: AK-12 MSBS SA-805 Underpowered guns: Shotgun with slugs Rest of them seem balanced

[@pinonpine9460]

Also the mr 28 is kick ass with burst fire

[@memphus]

2:35 why did you leave the flag before you finished capping it? PTFO, Drift0r :P

[@barbariumTV]

Nameless oats bye man from the driftor community.

[@ThatNotSoAznKid]

Call me crazy, but this is what I like about the Call Of Duty series and why I prefer the IW made games. Everything is crazy op and that's what makes things balanced. COD should just be some crazy mindless shooting fun, at least that's the way I like it. Sure it can get aggravating and frustrating and you start to feel it wear on you after a some time, but in the end its just all about shooting the dudes and just turning off your brain for a while.

[@MrSmokinGanja]

Secret reasons? It's OP, he doesn't want us to know. Everyone spam it!

[@TroubledSpar7an]

Haven't you uploaded this video already, or am I just in a semi-paradoxical situation again?

[@mrmisterman999]

Such an underrated gsme

[@Fritobandito858]

man I miss your Black Ops 2 intros

[@DeuslMortis]

FINALLY!!! I was wondering about this ever since the "Semi-auto" video. Thanks Drift0r =D

[@lKingRichardl]

burst fire isnt worth the attachment slot. if you want a burst fire gun, the msbs is it, otherwise the sc 2010, ak-12, and pretty much all other ar's are great full auto

[@NuttyNipps]

Drift0r, can you get in touch with Teenah? We really need a dog killstreak DLC that turns Riley into a Shiba Inu

[@cameverton]

The arc has reduced recoil for the first three shots so you will get constant reduced recoil

[@LSSJTHOR]

like u said this is fair bcs with birst fire, if u miss ur first shot u will lose the fight most of the time. jesus. b4 ppl bitch this attachment isnt as op like the msbs. the msbs is overall op. thanks for the information! and knowledge is power. i love how ppl hate , but this is a game, u need to adapt, just like real life,if u want to be a pro player u need to try new things, new ways, always adapt! just like the military u need to adapt, and counter attack. the stromgest defense is offense! quote art of war, and gundam wing(wui fei lol) im sure they will patch this (bcs kids will bitch about it until they do just like in bo2) well patch the msbs, but they wont patch this. ifinity ward doesnt give in to whiney cunts. thanks drift0r, do u play on psn?

[@mysticxclan6395]

Im sorry, do you need a dictionary?

[@MrFidinkadinkHD]

MysTicxClan *I'm and/or I am.

[@boompoe]

***** Well, aren't you a special fucking snowflake.

[@MrFidinkadinkHD]

***** Was that necessary?

[@XxBostonCelticsxX]

such english much wisdom

[@Kryp7ik777]

do flash suppressor vs foregrip vs muzzlebreak on assault rifles!

[@indigo4040]

Actually snipers have the most damage multipliers. Everywhere except parts of the arms and legs

[@eliasrizo2126]

You should do a in depth with the perk dead eye

[@yiliu5665]

excatly! i try all ars with burst fire, i found it sc2010 can lord all ars including msbs, maily bacouse of the accuracy and the firerate.

[@Xyno76]

lol finally the m-tar is coming up for real xD

[@pinonpine9460]

The sc 2010 is my choice with burst fire because it has almost no recoil on it

[@soccerplayer0091]

Great video driftor

[@Darkstar_8473]

Is Driftor playing on the Xbox One now?

[@TankJack]

The FADs minimum damage is 25, 1.5 x 25 = 37.5 making it at most a three hit kill unlike all other ARs. Did you not realize this?

[@TankJack]

I meant to say it is always a three hit kill when Burst fire is used if the torso multiplier is indeed 1.5

[@CamChizick]

I put it on a marksmen and also put a thermal sight, BOSS

[@darkamo14]

the intro is amazing :P