Giant Syncdrive Pro (2020) - eBike motor review

[@davidsoutdooradventuresand6799]

I just bought myself a Giant Stance 2 E-bike myself and I love it. It makes mountain biking Easy and fun. This motor helps a person climb steep hills and makes it look very easy. It's a strong dependable motor. The Yamaha motor is in my opinion the best.

[@josvei4052]

Excelent video, it has answer all my questions about the new motor, I'm addition to your review I would like to add that Yamaha (the maker of this motor) is well known for it's extreme reliability.

[@scottpratico1315]

Best emtb motor reviews on KZbin.

[@makofer]

Thank you for the review on the new Yamaha Motor as well as on the Giant Stance 1 pro. Made my decision on buying an E-bike lots easier!

[@davidsoutdooradventuresand6799]

Buy yourself an E bike with a Yamaha motor they are dependable in strong. And very quiet compared to the others.

[@johncochran9392]

Just picked up my Reign E+1 Pro the other night. So juicy, 2 wheel beast mode. High level smiles per mile.

[@chickenclips]

how is the bike dude? I'm torn between brands and bikes. Driving me nuts. The E+1 Reign is on my top 3 of the list

[@johncochran9392]

@@chickenclips I was torn as well. I was on a Santa Cruz HighTower for a minute, not an e-mtb I realize, the turbo Levo, and the E-trance. Trance and Reign are basically the same, Reign has more travel. I made the right call. The reign is so buttery and a trail master and a DH heavyweight when it needs to be. I don't miss a red penny.

[@Johnr37us]

I have a 2020 Fastroad E I ride in the Eco mode mostly because it helps me with my fitness.

[@josvei4052]

Instead of changing modes it would be fantastic a "turbo bottom" which would increase a level while you push it and get back to previous mode when you release it, but base of your review it look good enough how it is right now.

[@BenHur872]

Great video! I've only done two rides on my new 2021 Trance X and this video was useful to help me understand more about how the Syncdrive Pro power levels work.

[@SwazersC]

Thank you. I just ordered a new Giant Explore e+4 GTS. Looking forward to enjoying this bike. :)

[@davidsoutdooradventuresand6799]

You're gonna enjoy it. I guarantee it especially climbing hills with it.

[@SwazersC]

@@davidsoutdooradventuresand6799 Cheers mate I actually collect it tomorrow :)

[@pierlucricher3376]

@@SwazersC hows the bike ? I go test ride one tomorow

[@SwazersC]

@@pierlucricher3376 Hi, its an amazing bike. I have done over 800KM on it already in just under 1 month. I am now using a lot less assistance than I initially was. The power is there if you need it. It is a smooth bike. Very stable at high speeds. It feels safe. It is also very fast. I have had a top speed of over 50KM per hour out of it. Yes, it was down a steep hill, however, it still felt very safe. The Yamaha motor is a revelation. Smooth yet very responsive and powerful. You would not even know there was a motor there at times as its extremely intuitive. This bike performs on and off the trail. It is a cruiser on the roads and an explorer on light to medium trails. The chain has come off a few times but I have always managed to get it back on. This usually happens when I hop off a kerb. The bike feels extremely solid in the way it's been constructed. I would not have one of the over other brands like Cube for example. For the money, I think you get very good value. The bike's components are obviously high quality. The gear changes are smooth and hassle-free. Buying this bike was a very good choice. I love the freedom it affords me. Thank you, Giant, for your innovation and dedication in the pursuit of cycling.

[@pierlucricher3376]

@@SwazersC what distance can you get from the battery ? The small 400 one. Could i get 60km on the lowest assist ? My job is 28km from home. I want it to commute sometime but it should be a ton of fun on gravel trails also !

[@powertapping]

I test rode specialized and trek before settling on the Giant Reign. I love the 5 settings, it gives me incredible control of my energy output. I never use auto, the amount of assist on each pedal stroke was inconsistent. I use the motor like a front derailleur especially on technically challenging sections. I usually ride in 1-2 especially when riding with analog riders and use 3 for most long gradual climbs. 4 is really the best for technical climbs 5 is just too much and too touchy for my style. Again the best attribute of the system is having 5 modes 2 nd best is the instant delivery of power to the pedal, it makes stalling on tough sections rare.

[@richardkaz2336]

It's all nice that the torque/power management, motor noise is reduced and up hill start characteristics are kinder, But the glaring omission from the review is what has been done about badly designed crank seals the seal that seem to allow water and grim into the supposedly fully sealed motor, electronics and bearings. This seems a an enormous oversight not just with the Shimano, Yamaha and Bosch motors. The problems is not just those bikes that may have ridden through wet muddy trails but also bike that have been lightly hosed down after a dusty ride. How hard is it to fully seal the circuit board with water proof gel, how hard is it to install screwed power terminals on the controller board, how hard is it to fit double seals on the crank. What an extra extra 80g is going the weigh the bike down that much. Is an extra $20 in material going to blow the production cost. Design and build the products to last and to be serviceable. Enough of the single use resource wastage.

[@666floater]

I just bought the E+2 version, when I test drove it the dealer was silent about trying it out in higher gears (higher cadence) so I only went in the 12th and 11th gear. The motor sound was not the best but OK. However since its a mountain bike, and I live near a mountain 60pct of the time you are climbing in high gears. The perceived noise between the 12th gear low cadence and 1st gear high cadence is at least 5X, due to the high pitched whining noise part of the sound profile going from like 40DB to 60DB!!! I could not believe my ears! It is like riding a hand blender on the quite mountain trails and I am now old (40+) less prone to hear high pitched sounds. How can someone produce a motor like this and also how can you still put "bicycle" in the name of the product. I am not unfamiliar with mid drive motors either, my GF has a 2016 Bosch Active Line and it is super quiet. In the highest gear the noise of the cheapo old Bosch is comparable to this Yamaha abomination in the lowest gear. I know that more powerful Bosch new motors are louder as well, but at least they are lower pitched than the niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii motor of Yamaha. I dont even mention my 15 years old Bionx PT350 hub drive motor on my city bike is STILL working and giving 70pct as much torque as the Yamaha motor in complete silence!!! So I am taking back the bike to the dealer after just 2 km of real world driving at a loss, probably I will build a silent EMTB with big diameter cheap Chinese hub motor. At least its much cheaper to service, completely silent at a cost of more weight less range. This whole trend of motors going lighter and stronger while sacrificing a big part of what bike riding means (quiet, peace, ZEN, close to nature) is a complete dead end IMO. Yamaha should have sticked with enduro motorbikes if sound is a non issue for them. All the ebikes sooner or later will be banned from all nature parks due to these bad apples like the motorbikes for similar reasons.

[@howardweir7501]

Hi from NZ. I collected my 2020 trance e3 30 minutes before our national covid lockdown - great timing eh It has replaced my 2018 giant full E and so far I’m happy. However the walk function doesn’t work so that’s a fix for the dealer after lockdown is lifted. I like the auto setting but I don’t think it feels as strong as my old bike in the second (basic) setting for some reason. However the 4 pot brake calipers are much stronger than the old bike. Stay well and keep up your good work . H

[@howardweir7501]

I'm interested to know if you have had recent experience with the Ride Control app ? I have downloaded it and it connects with my 2020 Trance e3. It offered a firmware update and I downloaded this. The result is a clear change of the Auto mode, which becomes the default setting when powering on, and in my opinion is a step backwards, because it doesn't work like the previous Auto mode (not as powerful). The upshot is I ride my bike in manual and now prefer it that way.

[@garyoneill8868]

Very good video and review. Good, honest assessment. I like how you said " I think the new motor is more aggressive than the old but don't have them side by side testing." Well done.

[@numalamanayungmalama9282]

Io

[@danieltosic6213]

Hi Bro i have giant sport line motor from 2018 i think so my bike is liv vall e + i need say just this is very crazy how this motor is strong every one uphill is easy for him

[@stefanobiamonti4797]

Great review! Thank you! Do you think is better to buy giant stance e+1 pro now or wait 630w battery?

[@giantservis9849]

Nice rewiew. You should update the software of the controller, there are some different things, like walk assist mode, connectivity with an app is improved, etc.

[@jole23b]

i need a help to choose between e+3 fantom 2019 vs 2020 model, what is the difference in motor, Does 2019 model gets software update?

[@giantservis9849]

@@jole23b Motor is the same, biggest change is in updated controller and wire harness. Every bike gets the update, in service center only, for now.

[@jole23b]

@@giantservis9849 so with software update in servis center before buying i get practically exact bike if i buy 2019 version , also you can send on email at josip.polonijo gmail com

[@jole23b]

@@giantservis9849 thanks for info, every distributor have ability to make a sofware update? Also to know for info, when is final update released for the motor and application?

[@giantservis9849]

@@EMTBVideos Yes, they have 6 sensors, but this is good for smart mode only.

[@garyentwistle5632]

Great information you have made my mind up to buy a talon after this

[@abelramos8652]

Seems to me is the best motor? Its powerfull, not much noise, great range, easy to control, tweakable, automatic mode ... what lacks?

[@abelramos8652]

EMTB Videos i guess is the chainstay lengh issues mainly ... with other design maybe some of his goodies will go The best is the Brose i think but it needs a good pedaling technique to get the best, a bit like the RM engine i belive. XC experience riders will love a Levo for example, the non so experienced in round pedaling, cadence maintain etc will go for the others I bet clipless pedals are not that important in a Shimano or this Yamaha like their are in a Brose (in terms of pedaling not grip of course)

[@Winston-hw8wb]

My trance e+1 pro 2019 is doing its job amazingly.. no issues at all, strong motor and the battery is super strong. best bang for the money 3900€.

[@Johnr37us]

I got a new 2020 fastroad e pro and it sounds very quiet and pulls well

[@insuresaver]

Just got my new Giant 2020 Road-E+ Pro bike looks great one major prob bike only gets 30 miles on charge. My 2018 Giant road ebike got up to 65 miles on charge Very disapointed on half the milage on the charge from my Giant 2018 road ebike . How can Giant release a bike with less miles. Report from Giant to bike shop I'm 6'0 216 lbs

[@NomadFM]

Top speed difference?

[@Unvaccinated750]

Nice video How drive the bike when motor ist off, many people say very good like a normal bike Is it true? Because I want order the Giant Fathom E3 +2020

[@bluestraycat]

Excellent detailed review! I like the selection of modes on this motor, just a pity they made auto mode so awkward to use. How about a separate button to start/stop auto mode, and when it's stopped the motor is in whatever mode you were in before selecting auto mode?

[@wiganer]

Bought a trance e+3 around xmas and the app is absolutely useless for the bike. It will show that it's connected but after that you are unable to do anything with it, I would like to try the different adjustments that you can make to the motor but you just cannot do anything with it. I've contacted giant but still had no reply. The bike is excellent but the app is useless. Also the seat is really really uncomfortable and the grips hurt your hands. I've changed the seat and the cheap and poor pedals but I still need to change the grips. Would I buy another giant ebike.......yes if they sort out the woeful app no way if they don't. Great informative video by the way.....subbed

[@bretleversha]

Great review, really well thought out, thanks!

[@hockeyiscanada]

Nice video !! How long do the batteries last and how long to recharge them ?

[@Winston-hw8wb]

I have giant trance e+1 pro 2019 and I am pleased with it.. strong motor, 500wh battery.. I weigh 105kg+daughter 3yo 15kg+child seat1,5kg+ bike 24,5kg around 160kg full load and I can ride mainly on level 1-2 about 50km/65km mostly somewhat flat terrain. When I ride solo I do preety much about 50km mixed terrain uphill with still left 2 bars fulll.. So for an average weight rider of 80kg mixed terrain is probably around 80km depends on outside temp or maybe more. I got 6amp charger wich is awesome.. totally empty battery gets full in 1h 40min. From flat empty to 60% in 40min.Best bang for money! i've done over 1100 km with it and not a single issue with it! I'll stick with Giant.. get new 625wh battery and that's it.

[@duvethvem]

Lurte på denne motoren. Veldig bra. Kommer til å bestille meg en sykkel nå...Tusen takk. :)

[@FSXgta]

I want to buy a Giant 3GTS, is the SyncDrive Sport motor different?

[@Mtb4fun_100]

What the battery? Compare to some other big companies theirs battery is pretty low... any idea when it might update?

[@bretleversha]

Did you prefer the syncdrive pro over the shimano e8000? Ty

[@CarmenHobson]

I have an Amit-E that has had nothing but issues since I purchased it in new from my local dealer in 2019, and LIV/Giant is refusing to stand by their warranty. The local dealer, Glacier Cyclery in Whitefish, MT has been incredible in dealing with all of this, and they are as disappointed in Giant as I am. Giant refuses to replace the bike, even though it's spent hours at the dealer's shop in less than a year of ownership, it's had the defective motor replaced, and has ongoing battery and electronic issues that have ruined almost every ride I've taken it on. BEWARE OF GIANT AND LIV BIKES, as they won't stand behind their product when things go wrong.

[@matthewreynolds1569]

I’ve got one on order an I’ve had test ride 👍💯

[@noahswano48]

Wonderfull

[@iamgeneric1888]

Can you explain why you consider that it is a positive attribute that the motor cuts power as soon as you stop pedalling? From my experience a small run on makes it so much better for climbing tricky obstacles where you can't squeeze in a pedal stroke and much smoother changing gears at higher speeds.

[@panchosma]

@@EMTBVideos when I find myself in that situation, specially in my wife's Levo, I control the situation with the rear brake, so it doesn't pull you of the path. On my Shimano equiped bike is less necessary. Great content by the way.

[@JanrogerevangerEvanger]

Giant elsykkel 2017

[@tomboneschanker5672]

can you raise the handelbars?

[@spin2win721]

Can you do a review on the 2020 Levo

[@scottpatterson8289]

Regarding the app, it is not the pre production bike, it is the app, it is rubbish.. I have just brought my emb home and have never once been able to connect the app to my bike... Apparent early 2020 Giant updated the app and rendering it totally usless. Its now late March and still update.

[@MrGfgtgr2]

I wonder if the PWX2 is swapable to PWX frame?

[@MrGfgtgr2]

@@danimayb I thought I might be able to order one through my Giant Dealer

[@j5k395tks]

5:40" motor sounds like the key of ducks which are currently flying back to warm countries. Sounds so natural 😁

[@Kev4684]

Does anyone know if this motor is compatible with the speedbox giant 2.0?

[@seif.z]

do you think this has more resistance or drag after the speedlimit than the 2020 bosch CX ? does the CX decouple and have 0 drag while this has drag but its acceptable ?

[@seif.z]

@@EMTBVideos tusen takk :) Det er behov for mer sånn innhold, mange sykler kan vi ikke prøve og finnes lite informasjon om på nettet

[@seif.z]

@@EMTBVideos when im shopping, i get the bikes with syncdrive sport in the same price caritgory as bikes with 2020 CX instead of syncdrive pro its making it harder to go for Giant fathom +3 when Focus Jafira 6.6 both for 2700nok (or cube)

[@andarooo2]

What finned brake shoes fit the 4 pot callipers?

[@andarooo2]

Didn’t you fit them to the 2019 E+2 Pro? I’m sure you had a video on

[@Vertexnine]

My app also doesn't connect on my 2020 Fathom

[@eselmoestuin3126]

dirt 3 i need a new bearing... its not a kx 125

[@truthvikingborz1599]

A got 85 nm giant fathom YAMAHA SYNCRONE drive pro

[@thetruth5791]

Sport and pro 80nm bouth,a got syncrone drive sport giant fatom e+3 more then STRONG 💪75kilo here ONLY.then you dont need more then 80nm

[@lincolnbell7879]

Nice motor, but in 2022 Giant have a MINIMUM 14 week waiting period if the motor has any problems before they can replace it. I received mine brand new with a failed motor three months ago, and they havej ust told me to wait for 14 weeks and then ask then again in if they have a replacement motor available. So please, fellow cyclist, avoid buying a Giant eBike......6 months to get a replacement motor on brand new out of the box bike is no good

[@Laststop1989]

Weakness part of this bike is wheel need to improve.

[@iangallos8687]

Can you hack this bike? To get rid off speed limit

[@arkrkhan]

Snell Snell

[@truthvikingborz1599]

Is this and 85 nm

[@EMTBVideos]

This is the 80 Nm version, based on the Yamaha PW-X.

[@truthvikingborz1599]

@@EMTBVideos 85 fathom e+3 SYNCRONE drive sport is way better....never found a so steep hills it wand drag me upp ,a am 75/76kilos its perfekt

[@EMTBVideos]

@@truthvikingborz1599 I never had the chance to test the Sport version, but I can imagine it being powerful enough for most use cases.

[@geekgamespt7928]

Nice looking bike but poor quality control or poor transport.Rear wheel has major issues right out of the box. kzbin.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Rear axle is bent! Derailleur is misaligned.Since the rear wheel comes assembled I would have expected better.Assembly instructions poorly written, but that was not unexpected...just annoying.I just had the bike checked at a shop and was told that I should contact the seller about getting a whole rear wheel assembly with cartridge. (The bike shop could not do anything to help me).Not a good experience with this bike, so lesson learned.Added 3 stars for excellent customer serviceUpdate Sept 8 2020Just received a complete replacement wheel for free. Great service and an otherwise fine bike.

[@skytracker1568]

Don’t buy this system. It is manufactured by Yamaha and they suck if you have a problem. Only buy an ebike with the Bosch system.

[@arzvlm]

traduction FRANCAIS

[@tommygun6028]

bla bla bla....