Gigabyte A620i + Ryzen 7600... Surprisingly Good Budget ITX Platform!

[@tommysheal]

AsRock Phantom Gaming A620I Lightning WiFi is a good option if you need more than ONE m.2 slot, it also has 8 phases for the CPU

[@ko_tech]

Yep, for the same price, it's the better board. But I may be biased since I own this board + Ryzen 7600.

[@LazyFoxClub]

What ist your Chipset Temp? I got quit high 80-85C in my nr200p max!

[@Joemels]

Better pbo as well

[@ko_tech]

​@@LazyFoxClubAccording to Hwinfo, my chipset sits at 55C at idle and at around 61-3C while gaming (tested it today in Cyberpunk). I have NR200P with a Noctua NH-L12S which is a downdraft cooler, so that probably helps a bit. For fans I use 3x Arctic P12 A-RGB (2 at the top, 1 as a CPU fan instead of the default Noctua fan).

[@troloo1508]

yes, Asrock's is the better option for the same price range. Only notable CON is that the board is not much available to many countries (needs to be ordered internationally).

[@nkozi]

Was literally researching this mobo last night. Perfect timing.

[@tommysheal]

omg i was looking up info on a620i + 7800x3d all day... and my fav youtuber just made a video about it!

[@dannybenitez9986]

Get a better board bro, if you have the money for a 7800x3D get one with at least 2 nvme slots and pcie gen 5 for later gpus

[@puffyips]

B650 cmon

[@atvina7129]

How the build with a620i and 7800x3d go ?

[@Reluctant_Hero]

I’m about to pair a 7500f with Asrock’s A620i Lightning and I’m very excited to see how it performs.

[@atvina7129]

How the build going ?

[@Reluctant_Hero]

@@atvina7129I ended up using Asrock’s B650m instead of the A620i. The build went very well!

[@vladyslav.hlynianyi]

@@atvina7129 i got the same build, a620i asrock + 7500f + 4060 in jonsbo a4 and i am enjoying. System is super quiet, cpu is around 50-55-60 range, gpu max 66

[@AAkCN1]

Will the 7600X perform worse here than the 7600? Worried that I bought the wrong combo with the 7600X and the ASRock A620I in the ncore 100 max case. Does the ASRock have the same power limit? In general it seems better with the M2 heatsink, added M2 slot and CMOS feature reset etc. About my Powercolor 7900XT Hellhound I worry less, although I might need to expand the case as it has exactly the specified 62mm thickness of the case's compact mode. This is my second review. I watch from you and I gotta say I am really impressed with the high-quality. You mention important info others don’t. Good advice others don’t. Feels like you understand more and actually delve into the topics you cover. Keep up the good work and thanks! instant sub btw

[@MachinesMore]

Cheers! No, not really, they will both operate at 65W tdp, so more or less they will be the same on a power normalized basis, you’re just not getting the higher end (less efficient) performance for the 7600X. In my experience though the 7600X won’t boost too much beyond the 88W PPT level so it’s a handful of points on Cinebench type of scenario. For single core or lightly threaded processes the 7600X will have a slight clock boost, but nothing to write home about. What does matter is the cost of the 7600X vs the 7600 since you’re not getting much for the extra.

[@AAkCN1]

@@MachinesMoreappreciate that you answered. I only payed 5% more so it does not matter to me. Thanks! Stoked for all videos to come from you. Am watching through your past videos atm 🍿

[@weirdodude1173]

Neat to see how this chipset does, thanks! Thumbs up.

[@GolfCourseGator]

You answered so many of my questions I had. Video was a godsend

[@SkipSauls]

Very cool review. I have a similar build with a 7600, ASRock PG Lightning A620i, XFX 6900 XT, Corsair SF1000L, 2TB NVMe, and IS-55, all in a Meshroom. Performance is very good and it stays cool. The 6900 XT is a XTXH model and can be tuned to use a lot of power and generate a lot of heat, but I undervolt it and it runs well, even in the small case. The only issue I ran into was with the height of the heatsinkl over the IO shield with the IS-55. I didn't have lower profile memory to allow the cooler to be mounted the other way, so I removed the heatsink and put a NVMe heatsink on the VRMs with thermal putty. Everything fits in nicely, and the temps stay low.

[@b6s4shelter]

sooo, did you throw a 7800X3D on there? nudge nudge? I resisted upgrading from 5800X3D B550i Aorus AX to AM5 due to ITX board costs and looked to see only 1 incomplete review of 7800X3D on A620 mATX... Would be interesting to know if 7800X3D and A620 ITX is an option or a meltdown performance killer.

[@AlexHusTech]

Was that the tech yes city video of A620 and 7800x3D? The 7800x3d will work but like he said will be limited to 88W most likely so temps shouldn't be too bad hopefully.

[@MachinesMore]

In my experience the 7800X3D draws at most around 80W for MC applications so power shouldn’t be an issue- and gaming only should be totally fine. For multi core processes, however, in testing between X670 and B650, getting stable/consistent boost clocks is something the X670 was slightly better at. My concern for the X3D in SFF is also that it has a lower thermal throttle temp, which you can often hit on bone stock settings with smaller coolers, even with the lower power consumption. That is where curve optimizer with B650 and up would be very helpful, whereas on the 7600 you have a little more headroom and the A620i could pass.

[@b6s4shelter]

@@AlexHusTech mATX I think. not ITX.

[@Reluctant_Hero]

@@MachinesMoreSo maybe stick to a regular 7700 if you want 8 cores on an A620i?

[@andrewvirtue5048]

I'm excited for AMD at Computex June 2024. Do you think we'll see new chipsets in the iTX or mATX forms?

[@cracky1970]

@Machines&More, check out the ASRock B650 PG Lightening next.

[@MachinesMore]

That and their A620I are on my radar

[@ShaunaJagan]

NICEEE!@@MachinesMoreI was about to ask for te A620I PG Lightning from AsRock. Good to see that you're interested at it :))

[@TheStinkyChesse]

​@@MachinesMoreYEEES im curious what the r23 scores will be for you on the 7600 A620i asrock board i got 14222 on that setup 6000 30 cl ram, it seems like its a much better itx board than the gygabyte one overall

[@adidaniel1453]

@@MachinesMore been looking for in-depth review for ASROCK A620i Lightning as well. Looking forward to it!

[@A_z_z_y]

Same MoBo, the same cooler, but Ryzen 7500f fits inside Fractal Ridge. Works flowless with 6700xt. MoBo requires some airflow because I had rare freezes in CS2 until I opened a case or increased CPU cooler speed.

[@mihaibob7902]

Why not post the idlepower draw as well. I know it has a lot of variations based on other components, but at least viewrs can now what to expect if they would replicate something like this build in terms of idle power

[@frati80]

I just got b650i AX version, looks to be the same board but with b650 chipset.

[@amalek.92]

Have one also and very happy with it.

[@julfy_god]

can you confirm or deny precense of PBO tuning in bios?

[@amalek.92]

@@julfy_god It absolutely has PBO tuning. That’s the main difference between A620 and B650 chipsets.

[@frati80]

@@julfy_god I'm sorry, won't build it for another few weeks, so I don't know.

[@julfy_god]

@@amalek.92like half of gigabyte non mini itx b650 boards do not have PBO.

[@maxlonk6188]

Do you have the opportunity to test this Jingyue B650i Night Devil board? Thanks

[@NeoVester]

Since theirs so few AM5 ITX boards do you think you could do a round up if you do get to try them all? I know you made one a while ago but I think a few new ones have come out since then. Would love to see an updated version since their is so few of em and your the only KZbinr I've seen who's covered most of them so extensively.

[@VeritronX]

It would be really cool to see how this board handles / performs with a 7800X3D

[@allenp4215]

I've read that this Gigabyte A620i board power limits the CPU to 80w, can you confirm this? Obviously not an issue for the 7600, but I was interested in pairing a 7800X3D with the Asrock A620i mobo. I can't find any info on whether the Asrock forces a similar CPU power limit. Maybe try testing the 7800X3D for your upcoming Asrock A620i video? It could be valuable content for people who want all the benefits of a 7800X3D build, but don't wanna overpay for a B650 mobo.

[@GlasPK]

bought a a620i asrock which is better than the gigabyte and have been having issues with the board and ram tested the ram on other boards and they are fine i keep getting constant crashing and stuttering tried different ram and motherboards and they worked fine but the asrock a620i has given me so many issues

[@SagazHero]

Someone mentioned freezes in cs2 and solved it by increasing airflow

[@puttipongngamek-aua]

How can I undervolt on A620 Lighting WiFi?

[@FrodeBergetonNilsen]

Thanks for the review. Can you say anything about coil whine across these boards? I am looking for boards with no whine at all. I do get that given your builds, that is going to be a bit hard to comment on, but if you have a sense of boards to avoid, please let me know. As for this Gigabyte one, I would probably use the Asrock a620i instead, given two m.2 and better vrm. Anyway, to me, it would depend on the whine.

[@MachinesMore]

No coil whine on the board I tested. On almost every current and last gen GPU I’ve heard it though!

[@FrodeBergetonNilsen]

@@MachinesMore Thanks. Really appreciate it. I got a PNY RTX 3060 UPRISING Dual Fan LHR. It does not whine. The stock cooling is horrible and noisy, but when using some Noctua 92mm slim fans and a duct, it is almost silent at about 1250rpm under load. At that fan speed, the gpu is more silent than any other GPU I have ever had, since on any other board, the whine would be louder than these fans at this speed. I like your work. Feel free to contact me at any time, if you ever want access to my work. Once you get to know what I actually do, you might have some challenge, would like to try out something, or have something made. Don't hesitate, just let me know.

[@ericchang5217]

But what about PBO and overclocking? Those aren't supported on the A620 chipset, right?

[@MachinesMore]

Nope. Curve optimizer IMO is the biggest loss going with A620.

[@A_z_z_y]

OC your RAM first. It gives much more FPS compared with PBO tuning.

[@akinovax]

Ended up going for this board since I wanted the USB that the Asrock equivalent board lacked, and was going for the 7600 anyways which doesn’t get limited by the lower TDP. For others I recommend going with the ASRock A620I Lightning is the same price and has 120w CPU TDP versus 90w, which I believe will let the 7800x3d run unrestricted unlike the gigabyte.

[@austonpramodh]

Good video... Could you please do a test with 7800x3d please?

[@HariA7X]

I'm currently looking at the exact combination to purchase (Gigabyte A620i + 7600/7700). Do you think it's worth an upgrade from LGA1200 i7-10070F? I currently have a 6800xt mainly for Warzone @ 1440p.

[@DaltonYeo]

Hey Im kinda new to the scene but I was wondering what's the difference between A620I AX and the B650I AX...?

[@Guestiverails]

would it fit in a xbboox 360 i wanna make a build

[@Edward135i]

I'm really hoping for more Mini ITX AM5 boards at Computex this year, choices are still very limited.

[@thelaughingbandituk]

With PBO missing, is there any way to power limit the board with an ECO mode or equivalent in the bios?

[@GlasPK]

you can curve voltages to the cpu and set temp limit to the cpu

[@euphobone]

The board has a limit of 88w TDP on the CPU I think. I could be wrong. I have the same board, 7600X, and 4070.

[@avery4528]

Thanks, I was considering going with the ASUS B650E and a 7800X3D but I don’t see myself needing the extra performance. I’m planning on pairing this board with a Ryzen 5 7500f off of Aliexpress along with a Thermalright AXP-90 Full Copper in a Lian Li A4 H20.

[@Loppy2u]

Hopeful there is price drops for the 7600X and non X along with some motherboards, DDR5 in the coming months. Brill video and build.

[@MachinesMore]

They’re getting pretty cheap! 7600X is around $210 now, $200 if you have a Microcenter near you.

[@Loppy2u]

@@MachinesMore Wish UK had those prices. Getting there slowly. eBay UK retailer had recent promo deal for 7600x OEM £155. They soon sold out. Expect them to be this price soon, without discount codes.

[@hotwings6918]

Question, with this motherboard can you mount the I'd cooling is55 with the heatsink over the io? Or do you need low profile ram and mount it facing the ram

[@jamesreeve6465]

Be great to do a review of the Asrock A620i Lightning. The lightning looks like the bang for the buck ITX console gaming PC winner by a long shot. But it would be nice to see someone more knowledgeable give it the run down. I ordered the parts to do a 7800X3D, 4080 Super build in the Fractal Ridge. Fingers crossed on keeping the temps manageable.

[@tacoastline]

Any updates on how the build is doing? Id like to do this plus a 7700x but fear Id be cheaping out on the motherboard or something

[@maxstueven1965]

I am waiting for the apus

[@davefroman4700]

Im using the A520i with a 5700G. Runs like a champ. No thermal throttling. I don't need to overclock. Not every ITX build is for power hungry gamers.

[@Tdot6]

I bought the Asrock A620i to use with 7800x3d. Bought the Asrock instead of Gigabyte for the better VRMS (8+2+1 over 5+2+1) and the extra NVME M.2 slot.

[@swuspicious]

the cheapest asrock a620 has pbo surprisingly. even has 2 m.2 slots so it's imo pretty superb for $60

[@roadrash999]

What's the highest end CPU one could go for on this board?

[@CartiStan1629]

Would pairing this combo with a 7800XT be too much?

[@MachinesMore]

No, it would be a good combo if just for gaming. If you’re playing at 1080 or really high frame rates a 7800X3D may help but otherwise you’re still mostly GPU limited with the 7800xt.

[@dracolnyte]

please review the B650i AX (non aorus ultra one)

[@ericli3091]

Does it have enough power for 7950x3d?

[@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover]

I wouldn't.

[@MachinesMore]

It would be a very strange pairing tier-wise and economically. You’d be limited to 88W PPT- so you’d be better off with a 7900.

[@avadakedavra879]

Bro pls make video with JGINYUE B650I NIGHT DEVIL

[@easydayez]

I have this exact setup just with a arc a750

[@EnergeticTK]

Was thinking of gettting a620 vs b650 for a 7600 in a terra aswell, but is it possible to undervolt on a620?

[@Joemels]

It’s not possible. That’s why it’s the 620. Don’t need to undervolt. I have a asrock 620i with a 7600 in a fractal and it’s fine. Asrock 620 is better than this one

[@EnergeticTK]

@@Joemels I was looking at the AsRock aswell, looks great with 2 m.2 slots

[@mantasm391]

@@Joemels actually you can undervolt it :) i've done it myself in Asrock a620i but not through PBO

[@atilla101uk]

I believe the first bios revision allows pbo may not be 100% true but that’s the rumour

[@MachinesMore]

As I understand some A620 boards may have had unofficial OC or PBO tuning settings in BIOS but typically only memory OC is supported. The F3 didn’t work with the m.2 so it was a bit dicey.

[@julfy_god]

not worth it imo. for just 50 bucks more there's really solid b650i lightning from asrock. and that board doesn't feel cheap at all

[@troloo1508]

Asrock A620i Lightning Wifi is better than the Gigabyte's... if anyone is trying to choose between the two.

[@A_z_z_y]

Asrock seems to have bigger power limits, so it is more suitable for 8+ core CPUs. For budget builds with 6-core GB A620i is the optimal choice.

[@iantune]

​@@A_z_z_ythey have the same price so theres really no point in getting the gigabyte one

[@exquisitemarkk1878]

is thi board can do undervolting?

[@Sergey.design]

It is easier to build on Ryzen 5600X and throw in some money for a video card. Motherboard + RAM will be 200 dollars cheaper. And this 620i and expensive ddr5 for future upgrades will not be suitable anyway, as in two years there will be a RAM up to 8mhz and much more powerful ryzen

[@nommindymple6241]

My problem isn't necessarily with the board. It's with Gigabyte. Many years ago, I used to use GB boards. Then they did something that irritated me so much that I moved away to Asus. Then Asus decided to irritate me so much that I switched back to Gigabyte. And, of course, now I find that they refuse to enable Curve Optimizer on this B550 Vision D-P motherboard. I guess I'll be trying MSI next time around.

[@MachinesMore]

Some of their recent boards have been… strange design choices. This one surprised me, nothing too out of the ordinary. In fact it’s just a very ordinary board, which is actually nice coming from Gigabyte.

[@nehalmukadam172]

Guys, please check my build below I only use my pc to play only 2 games, Dota 2 and counter stirke 2 and i am on a very strict budget Mobo - Msi a620m Cpu- ryzen 5 7600 Gpu - rx 6600 8gb (dota 2 and cs 2 are cpu based games don't need heavy gpu) Cooler - stock (wraith) Ram- ddr5 5200mhz 16*1 gb( will put another one 2-3 years down the line as my games don't need much ram, the cpu only supports 5200mhz) Ssd- kingston 500gb m.2 nvme gen 4 Cabinet - msi mag forge m100a mini atx (not sure if i am making the right choice should i go for mid tower? Please suggest ) Psu- msi mag 650 bronze Headphone- razor blackshark v2x usb 7.1 Mouse - razor deathadder essential wired Keyboard - ant mk 1000 (need f1 and numbers) Screen - gigabyte 27fc curved 1080p 165hz

[@gerardcoultard714]

"promosm"

[@PatonCavaney]

88w? shame

[@Razumen]

"$255" "Budget Platform" These are not the same thing.

[@AlfaPro1337]

A-series is the better chipset over the useless B-series. Plus, shame that AMD/Evil Su gimped, forcing users to go for X-series.

[@pitch7288]