GIGABYTE B650E AORUS MASTER : getting better and better!

[@swizzler8053]

My favorite motherboard reviewer.

[@Laurentschoice]

Hey Swizzler :)

[@skip-ratgaming8682.]

Hi Laurent hope your doing well . Been a crazy year , great to see you back and tech looking fresh 👍🎮🤜🤛

[@brianparker8923]

This board doesn’t seem to exist at major dealers, only 450.00 side sellers. Gigabyte doesn’t even show it in their store.

[@zhayward3190]

I really don't understand why gigabyte decided to put 4 usb 2.0's on the back I/O on its top of the line B650E board its 2023 like come on guys especially considering how much this board costs, great video mate very much enjoyed watching it

[@OldAlastair]

Glad to have you back

[@RaufZero]

Good preview, lot of details, additionally graphics, no unnecessary digressions, thats the exact opposite of the incoherent chatter like Buldzoid represent. Clearly You deserve much more recognition. Well done mate.

[@Laurentschoice]

Thanks Rauf ! I truly appreciate it !

[@prestigenius5928]

Très bonne vidéo complète et bien expliquer. La ref de fin "le claquement des doits à la Tonny Statk" xD J'adore

[@paulworster3683]

Laurent, What is the best for me to get. The Asus ROG Strix X670E-F Gaming WIFI or this? both are about the same price!. Using it for 3d modelling and a bit of gaming with a 7800X3D / 7950X a 4090 / 4080 and 64gb of 5600MHz ram. Btw great video, even though you speak in English i feel i am becoming more French with every video i watch :D

[@vipr0359]

There's a error in the video at 6:58. The bottom 2 (left ones in the video) slots are the ones that share bandwidth with the GPU, not the middle two. According to the circuit diagram the M2A_CPU and M2D_CPU slots don't share it, while the M2B_CPU and M2C_CPU slots do share it.

[@Bumpy1364]

glad i found your comment, building on this mb tomorrow hopefully. if u dont mind me asking, where did you find the circuit diagram? i looked through the online manual but could not find the slots that share the bandwith

[@vipr0359]

@@Bumpy1364 it is on page 5 in the english manual from the gigabyte homepage '1-2 Motherboard Block Diagram'

[@vipr0359]

@@Bumpy1364 Also keep in mind that Laurent's argument, that it's not that bad because it still runs at PCIe 5 speed is not really valid, since pretty much all GPUs only support PCIe 4 anyways. Also the early BIOS Versions of this mainboard have significant problems, so if you get this board, make sure to update BIOS instantly. Other than that I'm happy with this board.

[@derek4177]

@@vipr0359 yo thanks for the hint. I was also quite confused about using 1st and 4th slot, because it just seemed so weird :D And yeah in the end it doesn't really matter if it runs "just" on 8x 5.0, that is the same bandwhich as 16 x 4.0 anyway.

[@DoomedGrind]

Why did they remove the displsy port off when the elite ax has it ?

[@caynofficial]

just one thing I looked it up in the manual. the lowest two M.2 slots share the bandwidth with PCIe 16 and not the middle two like in the video.

[@romanpirschel3053]

Yes you are right, lowest two...however please help me to understand, if I populate the 3rd m2 slot with pcie 4.0x4 ssd, manual said pcie 5.0x16 will be reduced to 8x. Will it affect also Current GPUs as they are pcie 4.0x16 ??? In other words will it reduce pcie 4.0 gpu to half as well resulting in pcie 4.0x 8 ? Will I have full pcie 4.0x16 even when populating 3rd M2 slot ?

[@mtfaed]

@@romanpirschel3053 The number of lanes available to the GPU would be reduced to x8 if populating M.2 sockets M2B_CPU and/or M2C_CPU. This is independent of lane speed, thus a PCIe 4.0x16 GPU would be reduced to 4.0x8 and a future PCIe 5.0x16 GPU would be reduced to 5.0x8.

[@romanpirschel3053]

@@mtfaed ok thank you very much for your reply, therefore I have populated only 2 M2 slots so I retained 16 lanes...in other words other two M2 slots are useless if you dont want to criple GPU lanes....nevertheless if its pcie 5.0 or 4.0

[@mtfaed]

@@romanpirschel3053 Yes you can populate both M.2 slots at either side of the main PCIe slot without consequence to GPU lanes, but not any of the two lower M.2 slots (the wrong slots have been highlighted in the video). The motherboard layout and block diagram in the manual shows this.

[@daveaufradern6658]

Excellent review as always ! Thank`s a lot Laurent, enjoyed it a lot.

[@brianhoward9217]

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS enjoy your vids Laurent! Your easy going style and enthusiasm never fails to entertain and edumacate me! 😄 Your visuals of the board and explanations are streets ahead of the other reviewers - you've a real talent in this! Thank you, I've always wondered why, expect for price, people buy the B series over the X670. I have a challenge for you - to review the ASUS Apex Z790 board - very hard to find infor let alone video reviews of them. It is a monolithicly awesome board from what I see with unique features especially memory management. Cheers from Sydney and thank for a great review!

[@Laurentschoice]

Z790 apex... done !

[@iain8837]

Great review, in a month I'm gonna start my first new build since I went 8700k in 2018. Staying clear of Asus, works well but hate the some of the Asus specific software. This Aorus Master looks like the board I will choose. A question on the M.2, if I decide to use only 2x M.2, putting them in the far left and right slots, I guess that's slots A and D according to timestamp 06:51, then there is no bandwidth sharing? Cheers

[@TheEdwin73]

@6.48 and what happends, if you put a second PCIe5.0 SSD in the outer left, the M2D slot, and leave the M2B & M2C empty, is the bandwith of the GPU stil halved from 16 to 8 or not?

[@vilpurni]

I am bouncing between TUF x670E-plus wifi and this board. Aorus would cost me 50 euros more, but i really like the aesthetics more on this one. Pairing with 7800x3D, 4090 and simply just for gaming purposes. I think i´m leaning towards this one since i can get it at 340 euros.

[@Laurentschoice]

At a 350 dollars price point , the AORUS is less and less likely to be found (victim of it success ). The STRIX F or the TUF are awesome alternates.

[@yajnalgibno6536]

Bro what did you choose?? Did you go for this board?? And How does it behave for you?

[@vilpurni]

@@yajnalgibno6536I did read so much mix comments about Aorus, that ended up getting TUF. Very happy with my choice. Has been working flawlessly.

[@guntherschultz912]

Does the logo syncs up with rgb fusion 2.0?

[@MustafaSherzad-w6k]

X670E AORUS MASTER thoughts?

[@Galane]

J'ai adoré cette vidéo Laurent ! Excellente review rythmée par une touche humoristique personnelle ! Merci ! (Il me semble que tu parles français mais je ne suis pas sur 😅)

[@Laurentschoice]

Merci grand :)

[@badzilla1173]

He returns!

[@Laurentschoice]

im never gone for long :)

[@badzilla1173]

@Laurent's Choice I know you said you prefer the aorus master over the b650e-e but the cheapest I can find the master is still $90 or just over $150 above the e-e. Is it really that much better if you don't care too much about the pcie 5.0 slots?

[@Laurentschoice]

Truth be told, if you can find it at below 400 go.for the aorus... if not... the Rog B650e-e is the only rational way to go

[@Laurentschoice]

Seems like aorus are jacking up their prices or what ?

[@Laurentschoice]

Last point... the master is really better for its VRM power .. don't care too much about the PCIe 5 . The strix got plenty as it stands.

[@tylerethernet8610]

Thanks👍 - a review as helpful🤓 as it is hilarious😆. Now I know my money will be heading to Gigabyte (again, as it's an upgrade from my X399 AORUS Gaming 7)

[@vincentvega3093]

Yes! Laurent is back

[@craigpusey4733]

Interesting but it looks like the Ryzen 9 might not be the best wat to go anymore, I've got an R7 7800x3D on pre-order which might just be the new king.

[@Crossfire2003]

Great video!

[@Avareee.]

What are the differences between this board and ASUS ROG Strix B650E-E? I am trying to decide between either of these. It's just that AORUS MASTER is way more expensive in my country. But I prefer Gigabyte over Asus...

[@Laurentschoice]

Basically... the Strix gets dual GPU support. But the Aaorus gets a monstrously mote powerful VRM. That's it

[@Avareee.]

@@Laurentschoice The only thing which pushes me to get the Gigabyte is that I've heard that it boots up faster than the Asus. It wasn't particularly these model boards but I've seen it in hardware unboxed. That the Gigabyte models boot up the fastest. And Asus was on the higher(seconds) end, booting slower. And thanks for responding!

[@megaforceef3004]

Can you do a review on what cables on each socket in the ROG Maximus XIII hero motherboard? If u can that would be amazing.

[@sawsanali724]

Great to see you again 🤲 keep going

[@coolbvwes1]

Nice video! Does this board also have external clock generator for overclocking the 7800x3d?

[@Laurentschoice]

You mean a BLCK. Yeah it does

[@arielis78]

Can you do MSI x670e Carbon wifi and test it's exclusive boost feature with 7800x3d? I also heard it's the only motherboard that can support 4 sticks of ddr5 ram without any hiccups.

[@sudeep531]

So Pci 5 slot 1st and 4th slots can be used without any gpu bandwith cuts

[@ligh7foo7]

I was reading through the aorus master b650e specifications and this line reads this Chipset "1 x USB Type-C port with USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 support, available through the internal USB header" You said one criticism is the usb-c only goes to 10Gbps. Does this mean it can go to 20Gbps? I know how to plug a USB stick in, how do I use an internal header?

[@KD_86]

Hello, so the best thing would be to have two M2 SSDs to put them in the first and fourth slots? That the slots then do not share the lines with the graphics card?

[@charliemazara1555]

Do I need to do a bio update if I'm gonna pair this MB with the Ryzen 7 7700X?

[@MustafaSherzad-w6k]

No

[@curedanxiety1679]

x670E variant of this board in my country costs 40€ more, which one should i get?

[@whoamiluv]

What's better for 5800x3d? GIGABYTE B550 GAMING PLUS OR TOMAHAWK?

[@razerangelri]

@laurentschoice which one should i choose for b650e series? this or asus?

[@osardegozar2581]

Where did you find it at $350? It's $500 at Amazon, for instance. I'm just curious.

[@Laurentschoice]

It was the MSRP on launch, however I did add right below the pricing a warning saying that price was increased to at least 450. Its really enraging

[@osardegozar2581]

@@Laurentschoice Thanks for your reply. I overlooked your comment under the video window. Let me also express my appreciation for your great reviews for other motherboards.

[@ma6netho]

@@Laurentschoice thanks to your review the price increased 😛

[@lordmax-2002]

What cooler would you recommend for the ryzen 7700x. If theres anyones opinion i want its yours.

[@duycuong7693]

"black screen" did you get that error?

[@GoldenEagle0007]

this motherboard has QC issue, AVX workload will hard crash PC and if you have 7600x CPU it can be fine so I would stay far away from this model if you don't want to play gamble

[@Laurentschoice]

Did u underclock ur CPU when setting up an AVX task ? If not, crashing is very very likely when doing rendering. Hope this helps !

[@Laurentschoice]

Yeah... that 7600X with AVX can get excessively hot ... underclock ur cpu by a solid 100/125 mhz if doing AVX with it.

[@GoldenEagle0007]

@@Laurentschoice no dude what are you smoking, it shouldn't crash! I don't have 7600x because if i did then this horrible motherboard most probably won't crash. This motherboard has trouble mostly with CPU higher then 7600..... Do a little google search and you will see so many people with this motherboard have this issue..... Or chat to buildzoid he will confirm it for you.

[@Laurentschoice]

Hi there :) AVX tasks imply a MUCH higher CPU die. Make sure to underclock your CPU if you are going that way. As for bullzoid... he'll confirm the above 😀 I hope this helps !

[@GoldenEagle0007]

@@Laurentschoice I don't have this trash motherboard anymore so i don't have that problem

[@georgemgunnels]

Very helpful video! I was lucky to find this board for 350. I want to use this with a Ryzen 7 7800x3d or a Ryzen 7 7700x. Is there any reason not to use the 7800x3d?

[@Laurentschoice]

U can't overclock it and there are known EXPO related issues

[@georgemgunnels]

⁠​⁠@@Laurentschoice Thanks for the reply! Always helpful! For the Ryzen 7 7800x3d, it sounds like my best choice is to use an ATX X670e motherboard.

[@caynofficial]

is this a good board to pair with a 7950x3d?

[@starrims]

you deserve more SUB!

[@koraykorac5463]

This board is Discontinued and this vide is worthless.

[@rare6499]

It seems like they’ve already discontinued this board…!

[@MrBook123456]

good one

[@ոakedsquirtle]

I'd rather get the ASRock Taichi Lite for $210 less lol

[@didarcheihkmousa1146]

ارجو تفعيل الترجمه الى اللغه العربيه ايضا لكي نستفاد من شرحك❤

[@Nistical]

Finally

[@Laurentschoice]

i got more coming :)

[@expensivemagic4754]

Yo it doesn't have a DP I/O tf

[@davidjames4583]

Ok !! Enough with the going missing already !! 😠

[@Laurentschoice]

So.sorry... heavy, HEAVY, house renovation here... you would not believe it :)

[@davidjames4583]

@@Laurentschoice Jk. That's always a lotta work. Glad your back !! 💻

[@jegermajster]

Where the heck were you over the last 3 months, Laurent? :)

[@Laurentschoice]

I was doing some heavy house renovation :))) I missed you too !!!

[@jegermajster]

@@Laurentschoice Good to have you back! I have recently upgraded my wife's PC because she tried a new game, completely sank into it and I was a guest at my own rig. Couldn't let this happen any more, and decided to upgrade here setup. And we are now back to being a happy couple :)

[@Whitefox1331]

I'm here bro u gone awol

[@Laurentschoice]

find me on my phone :) Yeah.. lots of house renovation here :)

[@Whitefox1331]

U changerd ur number I've go so many send us ur main one we will get rid of the rest. Hope you and your family are setting in now

[@Laurentschoice]

Got u .. ill text u tomorrow brother !