What makes X670E "EXTREME"? AM5 Chipsets Explained (featuring Aorus!)

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Most tech channels release variations of the same content on launch day. It's nice to see coverage of an equally important aspect of a build. Looking forward to the next video!

[@YuniorGamboa]

Just the video I was looking for. Thanks Paul

[@Mcleody9]

Would love to see a "budget build" when Octobers Motherboards come out, and highlight any areas where budget builders may want to consider a step up on the cpu or motherboard AM5 ladder?

[@Matt561]

Problem is the price of ddr5

[@spankbuda7466]

The cheapest "budget" build is going to start you at $1000+

[@kboussa]

If you like green pcb... sure.😆

[@TheHrb1234]

There is no "budget build" , they are milking it before the competition comes out like always.

[@Curiefeld]

Budget and midrange builds will probably become doable in early to mid 2023.

[@itsdeonlol]

Thank you Paul & Gigabyte for this!

[@karthik11512]

The color grading and lighting is really good on your videos.

[@demontekdigital]

Not sure if they did it this time around, but one thing I always wish for with the lower end boards is a dedicated on-board power button, and the Dr D digital readouts. The higher end boards are the ones that always seem to get those extra features when I feel like they should be standard on all boards. I'm not complaining at all because I realize those features add to the cost, but it's just something I've always wanted to see. I always see them, and am like, "Man I want one of those fancy power buttons, and pretty number thingies!" Lol.

[@albal156]

The Post codes are something I wish was on more lower end boards tbh or at least the read out LEDs if it adds too much to cost. Power buttons are rally only good for test benches or a first power up and initial POST outside the case it easily done with a screw driver and shorting the front panel connectors together. If something ever goes wrong (and it has, I had some issues when I powered on my PC for the first time and I had recent issues with the CMOS battery too which died and caused my PC to blue screen and forget the time and date) POSt code displays are definitely good to have.

[@NINJAMONACO]

Actually I would like to see this as an "external" option, like a small daughter card you could plug on a standardized plug on any motherboard... One can dream

[@demontekdigital]

@@pl0dman925 I watched that video, and yeah that's going to be incredibly frustrating, and terror inducing for people trying to do any sort of problem diagnosing that requires several power shut-offs. Even doing something as simple as a drive swap, or addition could cause nightmares, lol. "All I did was swap out the drive, WTF, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO M....oh nvm, there it goes." LMAO.

[@demontekdigital]

@@NINJAMONACO Something that could potentially be plugged into a smaller PCIe like those wifi cards would be cool, but I have no idea where it would get the info from.

[@demontekdigital]

@@albal156 For sure. POST codes are way more important than an on-board pwr button. The pwr button would be just for ease of use for me. I kinda get a little wigged out using the screwdriver method because I feel like it's something you're not supposed to do even though it's safe, and been done millions of times.

[@nemesis851_]

Appreciate your choice of topic to cover today, Paul

[@LMacNeill]

Thanks for that explanation about the different chipset options -- definitely answered some questions that I had. Much appreciated!

[@finalmage6]

That's quite a large box...what do you do with all those special edition launch boxes? They can't all end up in your back ground 🙂

[@Deathscythe91]

they probably want it back lol

[@finalmage6]

@@Deathscythe91 Maybe...I know those awesome Ryzen launch boxes stayed in the sets of many a tech tuber for years though! Those things were pretty sweet.

[@poeticsilence047]

@@finalmage6 i actually have one. AMD sold them. It also came with a shirt, jacket and hat. Wish more companies did that instead of giving them to reviewers. At least average people would wear the swag.

[@lishengshun2873]

That's where all the corpses go.

[@Hobbes4ever]

@@Deathscythe91 especially that box which probably cost more than any of their mobos

[@akhileshkshirsagar2712]

Extremely awesome video as always Paul!! I extremely loved watching it on my PC powered by the ASRock B550 Extreme4 motherboard. 😄

[@jeremyf1901]

I can’t even imagine how excited I would be getting a box like that sent to me. I actually would probably start crying. Thank you for the benchmark break, Paul! I with others were showcasing other computer parts like this.

[@kieranb7747]

why would you start crying.. lol

[@b4ds33d]

How sadly materialistic are you my guy??? Oof.

[@gigabit9823]

Sad life, LOL

[@lilqkb5746]

Ya'll need to chill. Dude made a slight exaggeration and you wanna drag him. Relax

[@zeus.edwards2662]

really loving how we got to see the 3 side by side for comparison, really liking there design of the extreme !!!

[@steverussell7005]

Thank you! For someone who replaced a ten year old computer with a prebuilt during the gpu shortage this is very helpful for when I plan on upgrading

[@jordaan_armand]

Exactly what I was looking for thanks for the content 👍

[@khyron6]

Thanks Paul you Rock!

[@leviathanpriim3951]

If you happen to get a motherboard without a clear cmos button, but at least the 2 pin jumper, depending on what case you chose you can plug the case's reset button 2 pin header onto the 2 pin clear cmos jumper should you have a no post issue of perhaps an overclock setting that borked. Free tech tip to those new to bild process.

[@13thzephyr]

Thank you Paul for pointing out the longer support for AM5 and in essence future-proofed for at least 3 years.

[@-opus]

0:10 youtube is flooded with benchmarks comparing the latest gen of AMD to the previous gen of AMD and intel, the benchmarks will be of much more interest once intel 13th gen launches. Thank you for some focus on the mobos!

[@matt-g-recovers]

Best hardware channel still by a mile Paul. Thanks brotha

[@zEr0ic3Gaming]

I had to leave a like, man the amount lf effort, craft, and pride they took to this gift crate is surreal. I'm an Asus Strix fan myself, they are my ride and die. But my god, Gigabyte is always my runner up. They will always be my next runner up to recommendations. Aorus is just such a classy, always well performed brand. I stand by Asus but man oh man, Gigabyte Aorus is something incredible too.

[@Streetysuperduper]

Gift crate = scam any “crate” for that matter.

[@TheSupermauro30]

nice! I'm very happy to see that companies haven't forgotten about you, congrats

[@plonk420]

thanks again for including the VRM powerstage (theoretical lol) amps!

[@aephix73]

With what they are charging for the new generation of motherboards, they should all come in that box. I feel that all the companies are trying to continue the inflated prices from the pandemic. I was lucky enough to have built a system just before the pandemic, and so I hope to ride out a few generations for perhaps the AM6 socket.

[@onepoh4680]

$999 for the top of the line is way too much

[@buttergolem8584]

Remember 50$ for agood B350 AM4 board. Those were the times.

[@jasonjavelin]

That press kit is so cool!

[@devonmoreau]

Appreciate this video very much, thank you!

[@jd31068]

Very well done guys!

[@michaelcox122]

Great video Thanks for the detailed info.

[@josephnorris4095]

You know you are a computer hardware enthusiast when you get excited just seeing these boards, let alone the description of them. 😁

[@brodriguez11000]

For when the box it comes in is bigger than the assembled computer.

[@WarHawk-]

Guilty as charged 😂

[@mat940]

Wow, super useful rundown.

[@tarkz7763]

For some future gigabyte sponsored content I’d love to see a super high end, full gigabyte AORUS PC build. It would be awesome to see a multi video series. I’d love to see a regular PC review type video of it as well as a full “beginners guide 2022” style video where you build it and another 3rd video where you go through the installation of software that you’ve done before. A 4th video for the series I think could be really great would be going through and tuning/over locking the system for beginners. Of all the creators out there in the PC world, you’re the one I always turn to when I need a no nonsense, easy to understand guide on anything for my PC and you’ve helped me go from complete PC beginner last year to at least semi competent. Keep up the amazing work, you’re always incredibly appreciated

[@whatthedeuce47d68]

Cheers for the informative content, I've put a 670E in my Amazon basket...waiting to the end of the month..

[@pilotstiles]

If I was planning on upgrading to AM5 one of those boards would be the one I would choose. Nice breakdown.

[@JF42506]

Paul you always make such rad content... thank you

[@GriotDNB]

Exactly the info I was looking for!

[@JahonCross]

Just get a b650 save your money, my dude 😊

[@black_mass5177]

Although much later, as the B series chips launch ,I was lot but this vid helped!! What foresight!! Thanks so much

[@QuentinStephens]

Looks like you've a lot of work ahead of you; I'm looking forward to seeing the results. You touched on backplates and sort-of dismissed them. They are useful for out of case builds, like when you test your CPU and GPU on top of the motherboard box, as they add rigidity. I used to be a big fan of USB ports directly on the PC but I've changed my mind. I plug my devices into USB hubs. I am disappointed in the lack of 10 Gb ethernet.

[@mikeoleksa]

Thank you for choosing to do something else, Paul! Gigabyte is what I'm considering this time around from my usual Asus, so that choice is bonus for me too.

[@geoDunkleAura]

I like that all PCIe slots are x16 size even when they are not electrically x16 wired.

[@sojirou]

Was really excited to get the Aorus Xtreme with the 7950x until I read the specs that you can only use 2 NVMe drives before it turns the GPU PCIe slot into an 8x. The main competition from Asus and MSI support at least 3-4 before affecting the GPU slot. It's such a poor design choice by Gigabyte to do this on a high end board.

[@mra.cortez3553]

Is this really a problem? We are talking about PCIE Gen 5 x8 which is as fast as PCIE gen 4 @16 (and on PCIE 4 boards 8X is as fast as PCIE 3 @16 as well)

[@TheHighborn]

dude it's Gigabyte. ofc it's shit

[@nktslp3650]

8x at 5.0 speed is still 2 times what is necessary for a 3090Ti. There is absolutely no way it will be a bottleneck for anything in your system.

[@sojirou]

@@mra.cortez3553 Bandwidth wise you're right but when you slot a PCIe Gen 4 card, you'll effectively run at Gen 4 x8 (Gen 3 x16). The RTX 4090 is still a Gen 4 card and with DirectStorage games on the horizon, we might see a bigger impact of that limited bandwidth. Now if the 7900XT comes with PCIe 5 then this won't even be an issue.

[@enegizedadam]

​@@TheHighborn have you ever used a gigabyte product

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Nice - now we need a review of the performance of the AM5 platform

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

Yay!! Finally a mother board video! Thank you Paul for scratching that itch for me. I have been wondering how these MBs are laid out. Video idea: Put a 7600X in the X670E board and see if it is worth the extra money, depending on the usage the person wants. Also, does a MB backplate help transfer heat to the MB tray in the case? Let's find out.

[@Otawakun]

the backplate does absorb some heat from the back of the VRMs via a thermal pad between but it doesn't do a good job of dissipating it. It's more of an structural purpose and protection of the smd components from the back from being damaged rather than absorbing heat.

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

@@Otawakun ah. So because of the size of the board it is used to keep the PCB layers from splitting. I got ya. Thank you for that. I wonder if you replace that back support plate or place thermal pads on it where it touches the MB tray in the case, then somehow actively cool it, would it affect VRM temperatures?

[@pcbuilderlover4271]

Wow Gigabyte has come a long way. Those products are sure nice.

[@SamanthaVimes177]

Any chance we'll get Eco mode coverage next time you want a break?

[@ElladanKenet]

I'm really curious to see the comparisons between the regular X670 and the B650 Extreme.

[@AaronAverett]

That Hardigg case they shipped all this stuff in is super sick.

[@OPTERON_PRIME]

Thanks Paul!

[@Zordonzig]

I think it should also be pointed out the spacing between the GPU PCIE slot and the others at the bottom. AORUS left room to fit your 4 SLOT GPUs and maybe an extra USB card or something. Also for an all AORUS build/giveaway I'd love to see maybe a 7900X with the Master mobo and an AORUS RX 7900XT when it launches. I like everything (minus the GPU) to be one step below the maximum so Paul can keep all the best parts for future testing or personal use and I just like the symmetry of the CPU/GPU names.

[@raytraced1415]

That's a great idea, I would also like to see that giveaway. 🙆‍♂

[@TheSlickmicks]

Yay! I have been wanting to see the motherboards. Thank you!!! And Aorus is my favorite. Perfect.

[@Kapono5150]

Currently building my AM5 system. Went with 7600X and Power Color Red Devil 6950 XT

[@MistyKathrine]

A build giveaway would always been fun. You have that extreme board and that 7950x and the DDR5 6000 32CL Kit and the PSU with the 12VHPWR, and a 7000 SSD. All you need is a nice case and a GPU and you could build a really nice PC that would make someone very happy.

[@mrbill_oh_no]

Love this. We need to see the ALL AORUS BUILD!

[@SixDasher]

The pcie5x16 lots share lanes with the M.2 slots, so if you install the M.2s you go from x16 to x8. Nice little fine print they got there.

[@danieljayasiri7739]

Hey Paul, could you ask them to change their naming criteria for these boards…it’s getting a little too “extreme”!

[@clanpsi]

Does the E not stand for Extreme? So the one board is essentially named X670 Extreme Xtreme.

[@jamievarni1530]

Very valuable video. Thank you.

[@darknubent]

Will water-cooling need to be done in these builds?

[@andersjjensen]

No. AMD has been very clear about this. The CPU will go to 95C no matter what cooling you throw at it, unless you go so far over board (exotic cooling) that you max out the motherboard VRM. So if you just want 95% the performance shown in the day-one reviews, but at 75% the power draw, go with a standard tower cooler.

[@ebeirne1]

Lucky boy... Please compare the like-for-like between the extreme motherboard to the base model motherboard with the same components.

[@jensonee]

my first job with computers in 1981, was with a 64Kbyte dram, zilog 8bit cpu. floppies were one sided 120Kbyte floppies and hard disks were 5 megabyte boxes. it is 40 years, 40 years!! but wow things have changed.

[@rudypieplenbosch6752]

definitely great looking products from Gigabyte, would not mind receiving such a box :)

[@exceededcircle1]

Would love to see an all aorus build in the future, I love my aorus master 3070.

[@pavel3778]

I need to know a main difference between aorus master and aorus xtreme one ? Because they look almost same but the price is a huge different with same marked "E".

[@TheGuidedislamicBoy]

Hey paul, I love your videos, please tell me Can i keep ryzen 9 in x650 ??

[@grevedanko]

Looking forward to your budget build with the new AM5 system!

[@kasper_429]

Can't wait for the coverage of the new B650 boards when they come out...tomorrow? Lol. Also a build video using all the Aorus stuff that they gave you would be sick!

[@TheLoganRocha]

The boards are feature-packed! Hopefully features like the easy latch continue to trickle down into the more affordable lineups.

[@-opus]

as long as they are reliable

[@dreamin47_]

Thanks Paul this was right on time, just purchased a 7950 and the video makes choosing a motherboard alot easier.

[@teddyoflove5897]

Was building with msi tomahawk boards since I started using ryzen when it was first launched. Giving Gigabyte a try now, investigated and found x670 gaming ax motherboard offers pretty much best bang for your money and have all that you really need with top of the line power delivery and good audio. Got it for 300euro and also got 64gb 6000mhz cl30 DDR5 RAM to go with it for 360euro (one year ago ddr4 3600 cl14 32gb kit was same price, crazy...). Now just waiting to order 7950x3d on Tuesday.

[@19kruger99]

How is your system performing? I'm also looking at getting the Gigabyte x670 gaming board with a 7700x.

[@teddyoflove5897]

@@19kruger99 it performs very well. Enabled simple pbo and don't have any issues. System boots faster than my AM4 system did too gigabyte did great job. Only once a week randomly it decides to retrain memory timing and it takes about 1min to boot. Otherwise all perfect so far.

[@teddyoflove5897]

Bios is a bit laggy tho if thats problem for you might be hard to accept. Bit it has a lot of customization in bios amd works well, so not an issue to me personally

[@DMan-ud6bt]

Thanks for the video. Of course, I like your giveaway build video idea. Maybe an all Xtreme edition with their top-tier components?

[@LoneJoe_hadley]

I have an X670 aorus elite ax coming Friday. they lost the little fans on the MB from last gen. that must have been a baaaaad idea, I got it and the bios wont update. has anyone tried to update a bios. on the X670 AE?

[@informative_walrus]

Oooohh that is a sexy board, extremex2. I thought for sure with that total care package size there was a giveaway at the end. I love my aorus x570 itx board. They do a great job of thinking about the build process and the little quality of life improvements.

[@gmt1]

Good to see PCIe 4.0 wasn't dropped. Makes me believe their upcoming PCIe 5.0 GPUs won't perform much worse using 4.0. Even in the case of RX 6000 only the lower end GPUs with less lanes performed slightly worse using 3.0.

[@mrtwinky2007]

17:12 "well place this cover while removing processor or returning motherboard" ?

[@stencetheboss]

with the motherboard VRM and heatsinks so tall on the premium boards it seems like air cooling tower compatibility would be super impacted

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

We need a test build to compare air and aio. Three test builds of course, which might help clarify the differences between the boards in practice. But, don't listen to me, I am waiting for B650. And Aorus will now be on the list. Well done, Gigabyte.

[@geonerd]

"Excellent!" Thank you!

[@-opus]

Those huge SSD heatsinks are freakishly close to the GPU slot 🥴

[@someguy-somehow]

Motherboards and platform cost are no longer an afterthought, it is in fact driving my choice of which chip to purchase. Turning the old paradigm of chip then motherboard then ram almost on it's head.

[@bluesky2145]

Why is there 670 and 350? They seem to have a lot of overlap. Why buy a cheap 670 if you get more features for the same money in a b350. Is there some logic to having two different product lines?

[@Ultrajamz]

Do we know if this 7000 series is windows 10 Compatible?

[@andersjjensen]

It is. The Windows 11 requirement nonsense is tied to Alder Lake's asymmetrical core layout. AMD gives you "all P-cores", so everything works as expected.

[@lavavex]

Sitting outside micro center right now! Let’s go!🎉

[@popthiccle1158]

will I be able to use a pcie 4.0 vertical gpu mount with a 4090 on these boards?

[@infin1ty850]

I basically did a full upgrade earlier this year and I can't believe I'm about to upgrade again. I still haven't even given my hand-me-down parts to my brother.

[@pdamasco]

I'm probably in the small minority of users that is annoyed that they are removing the ability for 5.1 and 7.1 surround on their boards. I had the 370 Master and X570 Master but I will be getting something else when I upgrade to Zen 5 because I actually utilize the Audio I/O completely.

[@Oulundronekuvaus]

I have been thinking that I buy 7.1 sound card so that would fix that issue, am I right?

[@pdamasco]

@@Oulundronekuvaus Yep, it just costs more. I have nice outboard gear that is all USB for headphones and monitor speakers but I have a 7.1 surround set from years back for gaming during the day. I checked in the manual for this board and apparently you can configure the front panel audio jacks to act as side, surround, and sub outputs but they are going to have a horrible noise floor if you do that.

[@R3TR0ACTIV]

honestly i know some people have had issues with gigabyte products in the past but i am still rocking a Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI and i have had 0 issues with it. i love that they did this show case as me and my partner are looking at building next year 2 new pcs. one top of the line for me and one best bang for buck for her. and honestly im unsure of what to go with amd or intel so it will probably come down to the features on the mobos for where i go.

[@TheSoldier718]

Thanks for doing something different and nice unboxing the master and extreme look almost the same

[@thomasmichaelschwarz9741]

oh boy! Am I tempted!!! Just fear the anxiety caused by the expectation of countless bugs to overcome like when I did my first Ryzen build....but this generation is a beast!

[@user-bonk]

Was hoping you revealed the price too.

[@andersjjensen]

"If you have to ask you can't afford it". We're still in the early launch days. Wait 2-3 months, so all AMD and Intel CPUs and motherboards will be available in every price category.

[@KrazyBean14]

Really nice looking boards

[@a.j.haverkamp4023]

Looks like the motherboard designers already took the 4 slot GPUs into account by looking at the placement of the PCIE slots. And the X570 chipset fan is no longer required on the X670 motherboards.

[@niospartan]

Looking forward to the itx boards

[@Vivicect0r]

Is there any reason to have so huge SSD cooling towers? They can block backplates of videocards and some of those new designs with active cooling on the back won't even fit there by the looks of it. A small amount of PCI-E slots in modern boards sucks. I understand the lanes used by m.2. Still, I can slot a video card, my audiocard, a 7.1 additional surround block and thats its. No more slots. Its enough, but its just enough. I get it modern card coolers won't leave any space anyway. It just feels bad for some reason to have less slots then old motherboards provided.

[@lilblackduc7312]

Thank you for yet another fine, Informative video along with lively Editorial Comment! 🇺🇸 😎👍☕

[@har_mar1141]

Great video, im currently buying bits for my new build, the mobo situation is expensive and confusing as they are all similar prices as of today

[@carlkidd752]

I have an Aorus Master X570--5800X and just game so I have no need to upgrade, but seeing the new shinies is fun. It's looking like building an AM5 or Intel gen13 PC will be substantially more money than AM4 or Intel gen12 (both DDR4). MAYBE the X3D will have so much uplift paired with a new GPU, many will be tempted to part with thousands.

[@mnap89]

What kind of wood is your desktop made of? Very nice color.

[@messaroundhandleit]

Damn that case is insane !

[@MFFM]

love gigabyte this gen, thinking about building everything from gigabyte this time around

[@GSP-76]

I got the Asus Crosshair Extreme boards and noticed they include a fan controller and ARGB gen 2 controller. With gen 2 you will get individual lighting capability to all devices connected to the ports.

[@SuperDaddyruss]

Well hell glad I found this... I had already ordered x670e master ax a 7600x and some 6000 cl 30. And now.... I'm broke but I know what to expect

[@kevrich19]

Just curious now that you have a new space to work in does this mean you now have a work space at home to do some custome stuff like 3D printing or case mods or even full custom cases like welded pipe frames and such? Side question what are you doing with the case they sent this lot in lol? 🤔

[@raytraced1415]

A giveaway is a brilliant idea, already subscribed, I'm really looking forward to that giveaway. Loved your video too btw. 👌