Gilbert Arenas Explains Why The NBA SUCKS At Scouting

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Gil's Arena

3 ай бұрын

Gil's Arena Reveals The MAJOR PROBLEM With NBA Scouting as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew address the notion that NBA teams are giving up on their draft picks and settle on the reason being that NBA teams simply aren't good at developing and coaching young talent.
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@TheBIackSheep
@TheBIackSheep 3 ай бұрын
This is by far the most insightful and concise McCants has ever been. It was nice seeing him tell that story about helping Tyrese adjust to NBA defense
@yolo7382
@yolo7382 3 ай бұрын
I literally was just writing on this 😂😂
@clutch7548
@clutch7548 3 ай бұрын
Hes starting to up his mental game to compete🤣
@jrbeezy
@jrbeezy 3 ай бұрын
maybe he finally putting the henny down
@uoooogg2148
@uoooogg2148 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Dreamkilla
@bbertgilo1574
@bbertgilo1574 3 ай бұрын
never thought I would see the day hahaha
@schwanhumes323
@schwanhumes323 3 ай бұрын
the issue is that scouts are looking for what someone cant do, not what they can do
@mentalprograming5365
@mentalprograming5365 3 ай бұрын
the next highlights, trying to be the one to find the next highlight so they can be in his pocket
@RoscoeButtocks
@RoscoeButtocks 3 ай бұрын
Not true. They just expect players to improve on what they saw. A lot of players be content with just making it
@cato12
@cato12 3 ай бұрын
Because there’s already a ton of players that can do it. Who’s spot are they gonna take coming in to the league
@PepeVoltaireBartolemeMontesqui
@PepeVoltaireBartolemeMontesqui 3 ай бұрын
Yea but scouts saying Alperen sengun wouldn’t develop into a top player in the league are so stupid lol
@schwanhumes323
@schwanhumes323 3 ай бұрын
thats true to a degree, but there are alot of guys who dont defend - dont create for others, cant run an offense in the league; people say we dont have guys who can execute ancillary skills conistently..but they routinely cut guys or dont draft guys who have the skills they say they need@@RoscoeButtocks
@stackntax1308
@stackntax1308 3 ай бұрын
Klutch called Gil and told him go after the scouts 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jalenfrommiramar
@jalenfrommiramar 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 better not speak bad bout Lil Bronny
@lerinvolmy8041
@lerinvolmy8041 3 ай бұрын
Nigga Bron himself made that call 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@leeroy9562
@leeroy9562 3 ай бұрын
Facts lol
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 ай бұрын
That's just a narrative
@courtneysmith1558
@courtneysmith1558 3 ай бұрын
Last time I checked grown men who actually played the game can make their own decision. You just don't like that he may agree with someone or something you don't like.
@joshualevi3652
@joshualevi3652 3 ай бұрын
And this is why Jerry West might be the greatest front office member of all time. His eye for talent is crazy.
@PromotionSho
@PromotionSho 2 ай бұрын
He called the new rules and white European slow but skilled and no def would be the new league the NBA black MVP race is over just not a USA born white killer but chet
@Spiritualbike644
@Spiritualbike644 2 ай бұрын
​@@PromotionSho Yeah someone will be like the 1950s the good old days before the NBA was 75% black... sarcasm
@LoyalOpposition
@LoyalOpposition 2 ай бұрын
@@PromotionSho Your grammar is worse than any European.
@nunyabizznizz7326
@nunyabizznizz7326 3 ай бұрын
that is why james jones fired the ENTIRE scout team when he took over the suns......they had wiffed so many lottery picks in a row.....
@SolaceMcfly
@SolaceMcfly 3 ай бұрын
damn i didn't even know about this
@goodiegoodiegumdrops
@goodiegoodiegumdrops 3 ай бұрын
James Jones? As in, won multiple rings with lebron on the heat and cavs? Good on him if so
@carlsagan2607
@carlsagan2607 3 ай бұрын
Josh Jackson was the tipping point xD
@clutch7548
@clutch7548 3 ай бұрын
@@goodiegoodiegumdropsYeah hes been the GM for a few years
@neilhamp9098
@neilhamp9098 3 ай бұрын
@@clutch7548 James Jones is a legend.
@PriceAintRight
@PriceAintRight 3 ай бұрын
Damn this was scathingly accurate. Not one lie was said. Let's take take it a teensy step further; A lot of the people influencing the game and fans on social media don't watch/know the game either. Stats. Highlights.
@TonyRealTalk07
@TonyRealTalk07 3 ай бұрын
The casual fan is hurting the game cause they only care about stats
@SolaceMcfly
@SolaceMcfly 3 ай бұрын
​@@TonyRealTalk07both of yall spittin its just stats and analytics with these casual fans and "media" members
@9863bsgcdgb
@9863bsgcdgb 3 ай бұрын
Players are the worst when it comes to evaluating talent though
@HomerunsamSOSA
@HomerunsamSOSA 3 ай бұрын
@@SolaceMcflyanalytics took a huge boost when guys who never played or didn’t play at a high level started tryna justify they careers, or lack there of.
@TonyRealTalk07
@TonyRealTalk07 3 ай бұрын
@@SolaceMcfly Facts!
@JvstinCharles
@JvstinCharles 3 ай бұрын
They right about the Miami Heat! The Heat will continue to make deep playoff runs because of scouting and actually watching players
@cvgodd1432
@cvgodd1432 3 ай бұрын
Celtics too, getting JB and JT out the draft was insane!! Even the bench players like Hauser and Pritchard are both good players who weren’t that good when they got drafted. Celtics got Hauser playing great defense and Pritchard hitting almost every shot now. Compare them to Sixers who had players for 5 years and NEVER got better! As a matter of fact they got worst!
@cvgodd1432
@cvgodd1432 3 ай бұрын
Celtics too, getting JB and JT out the draft was insane!! Even the bench players like Hauser and Pritchard are both good players who weren’t that good when they got drafted. Celtics got Hauser playing great defense and Pritchard hitting almost every shot now. Compare them to Sixers who had players for 5 years and NEVER got better! As a matter of fact they got worst!
@zachcoggins9018
@zachcoggins9018 Ай бұрын
⁠@@cvgodd1432JB & JT are not good examples, they got those from a once in a lifetime trade, and they were both projected at least top 5 and picked #3 in different drafts. But Pritchard & Houser are good examples.
@zachcoggins9018
@zachcoggins9018 Ай бұрын
The crazy part is they never had a top 5 pick to play with post-Bron. Spoelstra is a top 10 coach of all time imo, if not top 5.
@AGuyNameDash
@AGuyNameDash 3 ай бұрын
Gil “1-4 Flat” never disappoints 😂. He gone find away to mention 1-4 Flat 😂😂😂. He’s speaking truth!!
@originaltroll7511
@originaltroll7511 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 thats why once he lost his knee he sucked...he only was good at one play
@clutch7548
@clutch7548 3 ай бұрын
@@originaltroll7511Good at one play? What play?
@icebergblkkk
@icebergblkkk 3 ай бұрын
@@originaltroll7511yeah and how many plays would you score ONE POINT on in the NBA? shut yo bumb azz up
@mathjones5845
@mathjones5845 3 ай бұрын
Lmao try and twist my muthafucking ankle off
@McLaven92
@McLaven92 3 ай бұрын
Gil was unstoppable in pick n roll. That means that brother was a 3-level scorer. Fk outta here with he was only good at one play troll hahahaha@@originaltroll7511
@djjsmooth27
@djjsmooth27 3 ай бұрын
This was a good episode. Player development coaches is one thing that is rarely talked about when it comes to professional sports
@HUGIZZLES
@HUGIZZLES 3 ай бұрын
Gil speaking fax Shi I’m still bussin my ass tryna make it to the NBA🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 I keep my head down and grind I’m a senior in High school and on my way to college
@secondchance5080
@secondchance5080 3 ай бұрын
Don’t give no fucks my guy
@kirillsergeyev7116
@kirillsergeyev7116 3 ай бұрын
How many d1 offers do you have ?
@timoaksproductions
@timoaksproductions 3 ай бұрын
Way to stay focused #KeepGoin
@myriad7596
@myriad7596 3 ай бұрын
Keep going hard at it brother! The world’s your canvas, it’s blank and you’re the Artist with the brush!
@leeroy9562
@leeroy9562 3 ай бұрын
Don’t do steroids lmao
@Urban_Paradise
@Urban_Paradise 3 ай бұрын
This podcast has really taken it to another level. As a 40 year NBA head I definitely feel the topics. I click on every video now. I can only say that for like 3 other channels.
@scottjames7243
@scottjames7243 3 ай бұрын
They are so much better without a WNBA player in the conversation.
@blackout2430
@blackout2430 3 ай бұрын
Too bad they’re racist towards ⚪️ men otherwise it’d be even bigger
@shock_money
@shock_money 3 ай бұрын
Another thing they do , is the easy cop out “oh that person got attitude problem” next thing you know dude is loved in locker room & can go crazy on the court
@MarkPerchatsch
@MarkPerchatsch 3 ай бұрын
This is like looking at DeAndre Jordan’s career .675 shooting percentage and saying he’s the greatest shooter in NBA history
@kirillsergeyev7116
@kirillsergeyev7116 3 ай бұрын
He objectively was….who put a ball through the hoop better ? He did it the best at the highest percentage meaning he’s the best all time shooter. You guys can call Steph the best 3 point or pure shooter but he’s not the best shooter. The person with the highest field goal percentage on qualified amount of makes is.
@SolaceMcfly
@SolaceMcfly 3 ай бұрын
​@@kirillsergeyev7116that last part is wrong you pretty much just said the person with the highest percentage is the best shooter. Shooting isn't just percentages how they are shooting the ball is also taken into account. Steph can shoot the ball off the dribble or catch and shoot in the corner, coming off a screen and shooting, etc. Deandre Jordan is dunking the ball off a lob not shooting a jumper. But hey Deandre Jordan the guy who doesn't even shoot jumpers is a better shooter than Steph or anyone else.
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 3 ай бұрын
@@kirillsergeyev7116this point just shows you have an Iq below 50 please don’t comment again you clearly lack critical thinking skills
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 ай бұрын
​@@kirillsergeyev7116SANE person
@Vorzilla
@Vorzilla 3 ай бұрын
​@kirillsergeyev7116 bro just STOP IT
@dariusgreengkb
@dariusgreengkb 3 ай бұрын
They don’t have enough good Ex-NBA players on NBA coaching staffs
@MrGibler43
@MrGibler43 3 ай бұрын
Politics. They don’t want guys like Kenyon, Gil and Rashad on their staffs.
@kirillsergeyev7116
@kirillsergeyev7116 3 ай бұрын
@@MrGibler43lol I wonder why ….😂 probably because they’re the most agreeable people. And probably because when you hire assistants you hire them to be a wheel in a cog and a part of something bigger then them.. you don’t hire them to undermine you etc…..
@Geion
@Geion 3 ай бұрын
​@@MrGibler43yep they want a bunch of do boys that amen everything they say and dont challenge them or arent able to possibly take their job and do it ten times better.
@9863bsgcdgb
@9863bsgcdgb 3 ай бұрын
Nah it’s been proven that ex nba players are worse at evaluating players than non nba players.
@leronmclean9361
@leronmclean9361 3 ай бұрын
There is absolutely no correlation between being a good NBA player and being good a talent evaluation.
@23ofSeptember
@23ofSeptember 3 ай бұрын
It’s a problem in almost all pro sports, but especially the NBA where late developers are ignored because of all the early developers that get all the attention (cuz they can dunk in junior high). Even in the NHL, where race isn’t a huge factor, the early developers scare all the smaller skinny dudes away in PeeWee League. Research has shown that kids born early in the year (Jan-April) are more likely to make it to the pros.
@MalikEKC
@MalikEKC 3 ай бұрын
It's the hardest in the NBA because you really have to figure out if dude is nice or did he just develop an NBA body before all of his peers.
@23ofSeptember
@23ofSeptember 3 ай бұрын
I agree, but I think there is too much attention on the 5'9 - 6' guard with hops when it comes to NCAA recruitment and not the 6'2 -6'6 skinny dudes that can shoot and handle. @@MalikEKC
@marcgil256
@marcgil256 3 ай бұрын
I think the problem is more so player development rather than scouting. We always see teams draft players and eventually trade them. And those players go on to do much better in a different uniform. The Lakers are prime example, look at all the guys they drafted last years with Kobe and post Kobe. It’s a long list; D lo, Randle, Zo, Ingram, Clarkson, and so many more. And most of those guys went on to do way better with a different team. It’s b/c the Lakers suck at developing their young players. They draft/scout well, but suck at developing. And this is a lot of teams problem
@tonedogg2008
@tonedogg2008 3 ай бұрын
Great points Gil mane🔥🔥🔥💪🏾All the points fellas💯💯
@WorldWideWeasel
@WorldWideWeasel 3 ай бұрын
Glad Gil finally addressing this. This is the new norm for basketball and I hate it. The casual fan would say stats and percentage and that ish don’t mean nothing. This is why it’s hard for REAL hoopers talk to someone who never played but bet parlays everyday thinking they know how players play. The game is about nuances, tendencies, footwork, speed, IQ. Things that can’t be measured. That’s why players like Luka and Jokic can dominate. They not the best shooters or fastest players but there IQ for the game makes it easy for them and there teammates. Learning how to get to your spot is crucial. Having counters are crucial… I just want the game get back to basketball and not all this nerd shit like EFG percentage and bull.
@jleezy259
@jleezy259 3 ай бұрын
Stats don’t mean ish? It’s literally the measuring stick that’s used to judge careers
@Fgh-ng3qu
@Fgh-ng3qu 3 ай бұрын
I actually sat behind a NBA Scout taking notes at the OTE league, and he had the Thompson twins and Rob Dillingham circled for who he was checking out for the game.
@christopherantoine9657
@christopherantoine9657 3 ай бұрын
With what Rob is doing at Kentucky, that scout was right
@steveee_
@steveee_ 3 ай бұрын
@@christopherantoine9657​​⁠don’t give him too much credit bc he probably shitted on his style of play..part of gil’s take i agree with. scouts will shit on what they think is deficiencies of a player and not understand situations/how they can improve. for example scouts said dilly would basically be a shot chucker not playmake just because of how he played at ote due to circumstance. now he regularly plays point at a blue blood.
@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 2 ай бұрын
All 3 are cold.
@Supreme36074
@Supreme36074 3 ай бұрын
Main issue is these teams executives & bosses are hiring their family members & friends to these positions. It’s why analytics has taken over. Anyone can add & multiply & divide , everyone doesn’t know basketball.
@AnthonySmith-bq2if
@AnthonySmith-bq2if 2 ай бұрын
Last scout or NBA coach i seen was in the movie Above The Rim 😂
@michaelwou1667
@michaelwou1667 3 ай бұрын
They are the best at talking in hindsight. The best! If Gil was a scout back when Jokic was declaring for the draft, bet you he wouldn’t even go see his showcase. He looks and and say oh 7’0 white guy, can’t jump and zero athleticism? Pass. That’s exactly what he would have done. He shitting on Edey, but Jokic was worst back then. He wasn’t Dirk back then.
@kobejones8381
@kobejones8381 3 ай бұрын
Take ur fan hat off 🤣 🤣 🤣...u mad he said eddy wouldn't make it in today's nba cuz he can't really shoot...but u also heard Gil saying if u change ur system to fit him then he'll work out in today's nba...that's true he ain't lying
@michaelwou1667
@michaelwou1667 3 ай бұрын
@@kobejones8381 I’m not mad, I’m bringing up how they love to talk in hindsight like they knew Jokic was gonna be this 2-time NBA MVP and Finals MVP. He just shitted on scouts who probably knows what they are doing more than Gil knows about basketball. There is a reason Gil never got hired by an NBA team. He is funny and entertaining but no one is going to take him seriously in the league.
@Jsch23
@Jsch23 3 ай бұрын
nobody should ever take a gilbert arenas opinion seriously.
@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 2 ай бұрын
Facts. Notice Gil ain't telling us about a diamond in rough coming in this draft.
@technichetips
@technichetips 3 ай бұрын
This was a great conversation. Love the passion Gil and the crew gave to this subject.
@chidozieorieh9802
@chidozieorieh9802 3 ай бұрын
Great conversation and great perspective from the panel #salute
@buyandsellwithmel514
@buyandsellwithmel514 3 ай бұрын
I love this topic and show 💪🏽
@JLMilly
@JLMilly 3 ай бұрын
I heard a story that the cavs was saying Kryie Irving couldn't shoot before the draft, because it was on his scouting report while in college, but then he came into training before the draft and was like "we was wrong" after.
@erickeppard5679
@erickeppard5679 3 ай бұрын
👏🏾 man I had to pull over to make this comment Gilbert hit it DEAD ON. Man THANK YOU for some REAL TALK💪🏾
@Th3WhiteNoise
@Th3WhiteNoise 3 ай бұрын
This episode is both entertaining and enlightening. Good job guys 👍
@cristianlopez6801
@cristianlopez6801 3 ай бұрын
People can say what they want about Gil but one thing is for sure, that brother had great work ethic
@thefacelessquestion3333
@thefacelessquestion3333 3 ай бұрын
Off court shenanigans but practices hard and shows up on game day.
@jayjonah83
@jayjonah83 3 ай бұрын
Facts. But his basketball and life takes are absolute trash
@idontpass22
@idontpass22 3 ай бұрын
Talk to em Gil! 🗣️
@christensen0606
@christensen0606 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful show. Yall really broke down how scouting reports should work! thanks
@ultralightbeing6080
@ultralightbeing6080 3 ай бұрын
Gil's mind underrated. I'd like to hear from the top down ALL the changes he'd make to the NBA. From drafting, teams, owners, coaches... Everything in this video 💯💯💯
@Theyaintme_cb6
@Theyaintme_cb6 3 ай бұрын
The problem is one and done, a lot of people got on Charles for wanting players to stay in College or Overseas at least 2 years before coming to the NBA but Charles is right, these kids coming into the NBA today are not learning the fundamentals of basketball before coming to the league
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 ай бұрын
THIS!!! What even is there to scout?? Jonathan Wiseman barely played 10 games in college!!
@frozenwater5113
@frozenwater5113 3 ай бұрын
It’s honestly the NBA’s fault the systems they have in place to be eligible to play in the league are so easy as far as you only need one year of college , you could be from overseas , and nowadays you don’t even need college look what lamelo ball did , so naturally the colleges are gonna conform to this new way of basketball and since kids have so many other routes to getting to the league they now run their programs to basically get the good guys minutes and showcase their skills to raise their draft stock to make money cuz with the NIL money is talking now and basketball isn’t the main focus these kids ain’t looking for the best school that’s gonna make them a better player , they want the best school that’s gonna make them some money and their not developing guys no more
@aaronlampkin284
@aaronlampkin284 3 ай бұрын
2 years is perfect for these kids to learn, especially with college kids transferring dam near every year now.
@phalnbullock4584
@phalnbullock4584 3 ай бұрын
You know its bad when Gil and Rashad agreeing
@Jsch23
@Jsch23 3 ай бұрын
right at that point the key is to just think the opposite of whatever they are saying.
@jefferykincey3907
@jefferykincey3907 3 ай бұрын
Yep lol
@theophilusjones3685
@theophilusjones3685 Ай бұрын
Right 👉
@BrandonL-wb8lp
@BrandonL-wb8lp Ай бұрын
This was good talk ngl. 👍 Love when they talk the game with some NBA player knowledge. Well done Gilbert
@kingMorris-mq6jg
@kingMorris-mq6jg 3 ай бұрын
I hope he speaks on how some of these players aren't bust, they just wasn't used right and it's the ppl that draft the player more so the players fault
@Supreme36074
@Supreme36074 3 ай бұрын
What team you’re drafted to, whether that pick is one a team needs or just the best player available, as well as coaches & systems make or break players that are good enough.
@kingMorris-mq6jg
@kingMorris-mq6jg 3 ай бұрын
@@Supreme36074 I've also noticed players get drafted but teams that don't truly invest in their top pick rookies usually don't pan out well. In most cases isn't the players fault if the team don't use em right or not developed right. Examples like kwame brown, DeAndre ayton and James wiseman
@CarlinCharlotte
@CarlinCharlotte 3 ай бұрын
Gil’s Arena, easily the most intelligent sports show on tv along with JJ’s & RichJeff’s.
@jermainem7881
@jermainem7881 3 ай бұрын
he's actually just a loud mouth dummy with hot takes
@marcelohendrix6139
@marcelohendrix6139 3 ай бұрын
intelligent & gil in the same sentence?
@Jsch23
@Jsch23 3 ай бұрын
jj and richard jefferson you are correct about but 50 percent of the opinions on this pod are the opposite of right, when they get in the weeds about the life of former players they tend to be correct but a lot of especially gil's broad opinions on ball are just insane and honestly sound like he's just trying to be controversial to get clicks and views cause when he's on shannon sharpes pod he's a lot more measured, but podcasts like the lowe post, the dunkers spot, bill simmons, ryen russillo, jason timpf, the hoop collective, those guys are the most intelligent guys covering the league. i commented above about the best GM's in the nba, none of them played high level ball.
@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 2 ай бұрын
Cap. The stay with the lies. They ain't breaking down plays or anything close to that. They're great at telling stories though.
@barrynembhard8498
@barrynembhard8498 2 ай бұрын
This is one of the Best conversations a real conversations about what it real about being a elite player and organization
@dale614
@dale614 3 ай бұрын
This was one of the best basketball conversations in a while!
@shanghaidiscovery2664
@shanghaidiscovery2664 3 ай бұрын
The issue is everyone wants stars. Even soccer which has a different system with training academies has similar issues. If you look at 1990's Manchester United, nearly their whole first team came out of their training academy. Not happening any more because people wants super teams with only stars instead of players can play and succeed in a system
@victorarreola
@victorarreola 2 ай бұрын
Only teams that are still doing it are basically feeder teams for Europe like Benfica and Ajax…Barcelona has been doing a little better as of late but out of pure necessity
@mikemiketrill
@mikemiketrill 3 ай бұрын
I was about to disagree with you Gil, but then I remembered Monte Ellis…I played high school against him. He was a serving round pick, but I absolutely knew he would be a main stay in the league. Dude was fkn amazing in high school. I’ve seen him score 80 and his career low in high school was sumn crazy like 23…HIS LOW WAS 23 ands he only played the first quarter! So to your point, you have to see these guys live to get a good assessment.
@paulhammSOLD
@paulhammSOLD 2 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite/best moments in Gil's Arena🔥
@rrganja7736
@rrganja7736 3 ай бұрын
Wow!! This is what I always thought podcast should be like! Great insightful info with facts and actual experience with unhinged opinions.
@Ked-kl1zv
@Ked-kl1zv 3 ай бұрын
If u think the nba is bad at scouting, i can only imagine how bad you think the nfl is. Look at all the teams that passed up on Brady, Lamar Jackson, A. Rodgers, Randy Moss. The list goes on and on.
@horaceharris1855
@horaceharris1855 2 ай бұрын
very bad example quarterbacks are not easy to drive at all if anything they're perhaps the hardest to draft out of any sport almost to be honest really to get a good quarterback that is rare you can't tell what they're going to be or not
@SlimeeDaOG
@SlimeeDaOG 3 ай бұрын
miama has a great scout team
@Sonnel_James
@Sonnel_James 3 ай бұрын
Josiah's reaction after Gil gave back the laptop tho 😂
@CASnowden
@CASnowden 3 ай бұрын
Rashad with the PBR hat! These were good takes… very insightful segment.
@keithparker3698
@keithparker3698 3 ай бұрын
I get what Gil is saying but Jokic is a bad example. When he got drafted, there were questions around when Jokic was going to leave Europe and be available for the team that drafted him.
@JohnnytNatural
@JohnnytNatural 3 ай бұрын
No one knew Jokic's game because there's no one like him but Shai is a perfect example of bad scouting, and the fact that Clippers send him off is also ridiculous, kinda like Harden from OKC, these mistakes should not be made
@DynamicUnreal
@DynamicUnreal 3 ай бұрын
@@JohnnytNaturalShai wasn’t a good player during his first 100ish games. It was impossible to predict that he would be as good as he is now. Jokic however was a very good player since the day he stepped foot on an NBA court.
@secondchance5080
@secondchance5080 3 ай бұрын
@@JohnnytNaturalyou can’t blame the clippers for SGA that’s dumb lol trading that one player got you kawhi and PG and ultimately Westbrook and harden . Mind you how is scouting bad on SGA and he was the main trade piece for 2 superstars 😂
@JohnnytNatural
@JohnnytNatural 3 ай бұрын
@@secondchance5080 Kawhi was a free agent what are you taking about? The trade was for PG, which was bad, PG was never proven people were talking about playoff Pee or have you forgotten
@TheKiid810
@TheKiid810 3 ай бұрын
@@JohnnytNaturaldude u need to do your research. Kawhi told the clippers he’s not signing unless they do the trade so essentially it was to trade for kawhi and PG
@marcelohendrix6139
@marcelohendrix6139 3 ай бұрын
i've seen gil have terrible takes about players who are currently in the nba but you want me to believe he would know how to scout nba prospects?
@DynamicUnreal
@DynamicUnreal 3 ай бұрын
Nah he doesn’t know anything. He thinks Zach Edey is going to be a waste of a pick unless it’s late in the 2nd round but then he turns around and says “you can’t teach 6’8.” So he’s fine with drafting the unskilled 6’8” player but he’s against drafting the 7’4” post scorer.
@kingDrAgOnZoRdS
@kingDrAgOnZoRdS 3 ай бұрын
​@@DynamicUnrealAfter castigating teams for missing on Jokic 😂
@SM-qe4wd
@SM-qe4wd 3 ай бұрын
He gets the macro right, the conclusion from it isn't always right though
@lilshaan6252
@lilshaan6252 3 ай бұрын
@@DynamicUnrealbro edey isn’t gonna be an all star . he’s like a mason plumlee. not a good defender either.
@DynamicUnreal
@DynamicUnreal 3 ай бұрын
@@lilshaan6252 Except that it’s not an equivalent comparison since Mason Plumlee is 6’10”. And even if he ends up being about as good as Mason Plumlee, that’s still an NBA first round level player.
@louddoughty3866
@louddoughty3866 2 ай бұрын
“Couldnt hit his ass wit both hands” dawg Kenyon really one of my all time favorites😭
@willmurrill3572
@willmurrill3572 3 ай бұрын
This is the same with soccer in the UK, GMs and owners buy players and don't fit the head coach. Now though teams are trying to move to more of a set system and using data to get in players that fit the system, rather than having high profile players
@mcphearson25
@mcphearson25 3 ай бұрын
Very true. Because Pistons should of drafted Melo. No idea why Darko was picked
@lewisalba7825
@lewisalba7825 3 ай бұрын
Because the players and coaches said he had the best workout ever ..he didn't miss and was killing....but that' was the problem he didn't translate that to actual games...plus he was 7 ft and Melo wasn't known for playing any defense, you play for Larry Brown you better play defense
@mikethomas860
@mikethomas860 2 ай бұрын
​@@lewisalba7825Coaches didn't say Drako had the workout ever. Larry Brown didn't want Drako and didn't play Drako. Joe Dumars wanted Drako.
@tgee1007
@tgee1007 Ай бұрын
The Pistons had Prince at the PF position.
@JustScrollingandTrolling
@JustScrollingandTrolling 3 ай бұрын
Gil should do a Mock Draft
@MalikRobinson-ld9jo
@MalikRobinson-ld9jo 3 ай бұрын
he would put bronny top 5
@Jamichen88
@Jamichen88 3 ай бұрын
Gil would be a terrible scout
@JustScrollingandTrolling
@JustScrollingandTrolling 3 ай бұрын
@@Jamichen88 I think he should especially from a former nba player. The way he explained does makes sense because how are so many teams missing out on these mvp caliber players.
@JustScrollingandTrolling
@JustScrollingandTrolling 3 ай бұрын
@@MalikRobinson-ld9jo 🤣🤣🤣he just might you know he can’t say nothing wrong about bronny his friendship with bron would go down the drain 🤣🤣🤣he has to tread lightly
@MalikRobinson-ld9jo
@MalikRobinson-ld9jo 3 ай бұрын
@@JustScrollingandTrolling that mock draft would be every nba friend child he know or someone he personally know the list would be to biase i like his analysis but i cant trust him to make something as objective as a scouting report or mock draft
@franknoble7863
@franknoble7863 Ай бұрын
This is real talk great information
@lundc6397
@lundc6397 3 ай бұрын
2:35 Josiah lookin at GIL like WTH am I supposed to now without the laptop 😂
@BmoreAce24
@BmoreAce24 3 ай бұрын
I always feel like he isn't that good in the research department. Sometimes he's too slow or he doesn't research the right things. He needs a second mind behind the scenes helping out.
@804MRMAN
@804MRMAN 3 ай бұрын
*Like I said on the live stream. Wht coaches here push black players 6'9 and above to play as a "big man" not allowing them to develop the skills of Luka, Jokic, Dirk, Detlef, Sabonis, etc*
@Benjamin-hp8mw
@Benjamin-hp8mw Ай бұрын
They don’t have the mind for it
@804MRMAN
@804MRMAN Ай бұрын
@@Benjamin-hp8mw I have no idea what that silly comment means. I'm guessing you're trying to imply black men 🤔
@bigwheat3000
@bigwheat3000 3 ай бұрын
I wish Gil worked for the Bulls
@larrycohen5553
@larrycohen5553 3 ай бұрын
As a Knick fan, I wish Gil worked for the Celtics.
@jermainem7881
@jermainem7881 3 ай бұрын
@@larrycohen5553 @dale614 both teams would be way worse. he's a loud mouth dummy
@dougwilliams2531
@dougwilliams2531 3 ай бұрын
How do you fix all of it then from high school to college to the nba draft rankings to mock draft?
@bigmo1989
@bigmo1989 3 ай бұрын
Excellent take on organizations draft for the organization rather than the coach
@popcrnshower
@popcrnshower 3 ай бұрын
NBA players get so sensitive when non NBA players get jobs in the league, even as scouts.
@EascideOfPittsburgh
@EascideOfPittsburgh 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s because there non nba but they methods that they use just truly don’t work nor are they needed
@tone6835
@tone6835 3 ай бұрын
NOW THIS IS HOW YOU FUCKIN POD!!!!!!!💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾GOOD STUFF FELLAS!!…hope some NBA people see this video
@ooosooose1568
@ooosooose1568 3 ай бұрын
I feel like the best and most talented athletes are everywhere but the pros. Never get a look or a second chance especially if they weren't McDonald's all American or some type of publicity tourney. This convo was interesting in explaining why.
@Sakrin117
@Sakrin117 3 ай бұрын
This motherfkers! This is pure gold! The best video produced by Gills Arena. BEST!!!
@MrBmick79
@MrBmick79 3 ай бұрын
I remember Lehigh coming to Denton to play UNT and Donnie Nelson was sitting two rows over from me. McCollum got hurt right before the game and didn;t play. I was disappointed
@HondoHozho
@HondoHozho 3 ай бұрын
So this is Rashad on Pabst Blue Ribbon instead of that Henny? I likes this 😆
@delandisdillard3527
@delandisdillard3527 2 ай бұрын
Gil killed on this one. This was a great episode.
@antoniobell5741
@antoniobell5741 3 ай бұрын
Facts from the 90s still going
@willthethrilloneal
@willthethrilloneal 6 күн бұрын
Gil went CRAZY on this topic was REAALLY COOKING especially on the work ethic part where lazy players can end up in front offices or scouting from a blind eye😂That wu tang bar had me dying🤣
@PlatinumState
@PlatinumState 3 ай бұрын
I would hope no team uses mock drafts to make their decision on who to draft
@mustafahudson4718
@mustafahudson4718 3 ай бұрын
Real talk this is the best sports podcast this and cam and mase it is what it is I don’t even watch ESPN OR TNT OR None of them sport shows cause they don’t keep it a Buck or 100 percent for those that don’t know they speak the real and they played the game !! Gil is that guy frfr speak that ish
@DJ_Rell2424
@DJ_Rell2424 3 ай бұрын
can gil take the pod on the road and watch the draft prospects and scout them himself? He’s a great basketball mind and I want him to show the NBA his eye
@TheFirst2130
@TheFirst2130 3 ай бұрын
One of their best episode
@blbl3696
@blbl3696 3 ай бұрын
These fellas spittin gem's 💎 thanks for 🔥 episode 🫡
@zayanyahawadah
@zayanyahawadah 3 ай бұрын
Gil Arenas alley-oops w/the Big 3? Potentially? A catalyst to financially help liberate within our communities. Great show. Shalam.
@axucaroso
@axucaroso 2 ай бұрын
Gil is on point!!! The NBAdraft is outmoded and ineffectual. Those ten assistant coachesvare nkt helping players - a team is better off with one Udonis Haslem. Teams carrying 17 plahers should be scrimmaging under game conditions to get better.
@tommymatt5
@tommymatt5 3 ай бұрын
The NBA sends scouts to go talk to teams about players. Ofc they aren’t specifically going to the team the player is currently mutually benefiting from. They (should be) looking at the stats, team stats, point differential when on/off the floor. Then after they see something they like, they have someone in the area/state check the player out and see if it’s worth the scout actually going out to watch/analyze. The system works, some people just don’t people the system.
@thequixoticangler3364
@thequixoticangler3364 2 ай бұрын
This is refreshing. I do tape review. He's right. Its all numbers now. That tells you half the story. Look at the best SDs operate. Miami, Boston, OKC, Orlando. All those teams find guys because they're at those games. My job is limited to what the tape shows me. You have to have a guy on the floor. Someone to confirm the tape and talk to him or people who know him. These guys are absolutely right. The NBA needs 1 or 2 former high level players on assignment for every team. They know things we dont.
@joshualevi3652
@joshualevi3652 3 ай бұрын
@2:50 report came out that Heat scouts were at Bronny games a few weeks back.
@James-sq8jx
@James-sq8jx 2 ай бұрын
Best podcast episode yet😊
@chach1288
@chach1288 3 ай бұрын
Best I’ve heard from McCants. Great insight on this show
@yungtyro1424
@yungtyro1424 3 ай бұрын
Damn this is the best assessment of today’s NBA I’ve ever heard like frfr
@miguelmolina7628
@miguelmolina7628 24 күн бұрын
I love Gilbert and this conversation I would hire Gilbert and Kenyon if I had a team
@LowkAlexander
@LowkAlexander 3 ай бұрын
I worked in sports media and this is a real problem, too many nerds getting their say and even the lowest level (hs) ex-players get shut out at every level in favor of number crunchers and marketers so the problem compounds over time. It’s why the industry will collapse
@user-pl8ds1mj5p
@user-pl8ds1mj5p Ай бұрын
Give it Arenas you are right but what I hear today at AAU games the McDonald’s all American game the Jordan classic etc. etc. etc. they say they send a lot of NBA scouts to watch these games so let’s see how they evaluate these players in the future
@GameTheRightWay
@GameTheRightWay Ай бұрын
This one toucher my soul. Poor evaluation is the biggest problem in hoops today. (Outside of prioritizing sales/hype over wins) We also reward all the wrong things...so kids are only gonna follow that behavior
@AlexRamirez-jm1tg
@AlexRamirez-jm1tg 3 ай бұрын
We need that Mitch Kupchak regarding the McCants UNC Connect bull-ish!
@rickygodette
@rickygodette 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon talking about Jason Kidd 😅
@jvc11211
@jvc11211 3 ай бұрын
damn, this was awesome
@programme9363
@programme9363 3 ай бұрын
Remember when Gil thought Emoni Bates was the steal of the draft, and would he be immediately productive? How did that scouting work out by him?
@RandyTheFittest
@RandyTheFittest 3 ай бұрын
Have he got a chance?lol y’all just be talking
@jcoria245
@jcoria245 3 ай бұрын
As a Memphis Tiger fan, Emoni is a terrible defender. His shot selection has gotten better though.
@Geeandrezzi
@Geeandrezzi 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@RandyTheFittestif he was the “steal of the draft”, he would have been given chances by now lol
@slayy51621
@slayy51621 3 ай бұрын
@@Geeandrezzithat’s not how it works some players choose not too come up to the nba they stay g league and overseas until it’s a right situation for them
@Untitledt
@Untitledt 3 ай бұрын
Cavs fault for not giving him a chance give emoni a real chance with some freedom he’ll be so tuff
@joshmakeitrite
@joshmakeitrite 3 ай бұрын
its not the scouting itself, but the valuation, development and utility of the players. there are quick, 3point shooting 7fters so the problem is not the where they came from. why do they want kenyon practicing for? that role is for his basketball mind--if he had the body he would still be in the league. development coach =/= practice player.
@adventuresofteytey2317
@adventuresofteytey2317 3 ай бұрын
I just looked up shooting coach Chip Engelland and found out he is in Oklahoma. I don't know many of these coaches but It seems like wherever Chip goes, a lot of success goes with him. He helped Grant Hill and he was in San Antonio for a while.
@flymanaz
@flymanaz 3 ай бұрын
"Just put your resignation in!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@brandonwhite149
@brandonwhite149 2 ай бұрын
Gil hit em right on the nail wit that one
@doriankandi2695
@doriankandi2695 3 ай бұрын
McCants has been on a roll this month. Idk what’s different, but keep it up! This was a good clip.
@BrUcIeBrOn
@BrUcIeBrOn 3 ай бұрын
Dam where the full ep at? Which one is this
@Dantana773
@Dantana773 3 ай бұрын
Gil has some valid points.a bunch of dudes who never played basketball making basketball decisions.Teams sign former lazy/trash players to the coaching / developmental staff is crazy hiring somebody who will just go along with what the agenda from the higher ups They don't want to hire independent thinkers who will strongly express on point opinions.
@OCViva
@OCViva 3 ай бұрын
I agree but I'm a Lakers' fan so I like it the way it is lol we have a great scouting department. Let the other teams make mistakes while we win win win
@williambreeze2659
@williambreeze2659 3 ай бұрын
These brothers were cooking!
@mars3676
@mars3676 3 ай бұрын
Gil cooked on this topic
@f1mac524
@f1mac524 3 ай бұрын
Rashad has to throw his self in the Convo lol
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