Girlfriend Broke Up With Me Because Co-Workers Told Her She's Out Of My League r/Relationships

[@momo382844]

Girl: Dumps Boyfriend for no reason. Boy: Leaves. Girl: Why did you leave? 😢 This woman is just as idiotic as the guy whose brother convinced him that his wife had baby trapped him despite being married to her for 7 years. Then starts boohooing because she won’t take him back. OP, you made the right call. You deserve someone who can think for themselves.

[@paulman34340]

Yep, I swear you get MANY examples of this dumb behavior. Yet, the idiots like EX never learn that it is BAD advice. Instead of asking "how much will HE fight for me" she should have asked "how much will SHE fight him!" I'm sure her ego was bolster by her looks being made the focus. However in truth that DOESN'T make her out of OP league because their are many "pretty little gold diggers" who would DREAM of a man like him! Oh they'll want a Handsome "Manuel/Tyrone" but that's for the cheating secret relationship later down the road! They'll make fun of her for letting a catch like OP get away because her looks WILL fade and at that point you REALLY want a "Rich Very Good Future Husband who loves you no matter WHAT and is of GOOD temperment!" She had low self-esteem because OP said it, she was just a pretty HAIRDRESSER compared to his future prospects, she brought NOTHING to the table! So she listened to idiots who I'm sure have a history of failed relationship after failed relationship a mile wide if not state wide! Those types are NOT the best for Relationship advice, if those relationships ended with "incompatablity" and on good terms that would be one thing for "Experience!" But instead I'm sure they all ended because they were "too big for the man" (READ: They were super losers with inferority complexes who acted hostile because they suspected they were hated and fufilled a self fufilling prophecy. Or they were full of themselves bitches who never self-anaylized to see WHY they were being dumped and instead "Doubled down, believing/smelling their own farts and shits that they "did nothing wrong" and assuring they'll be crazy cat lady Femcels soon enough when even the most DESEPARATE of Male Incels aren't willing to "tap that!" In this case she showed she is a "perfect fit for them!" Welcome to the "Losers Club for Women" Honey! A Club you just trapped yourself in! Here's advice for the future! "Do better and get off your high horse!" Understand you lost yourself a good catch because you let a bunch of losers inflate your ego and puppeteer you into ruining yourself! Seriously it was painfully obvious they were jealous and wanted to "bring you down from the preceived High Horse they assumed you put you in" by taking advantage of their "work mate" status to peer pressure you! You're a FUCKING ADULT, not a child. But guess you never grew up! So just accept this as a fucked up mistake on your end, grow up, and maybe the next catch you get won't be lost to you because your so WEAK!

[@fizzydizzystudios4768]

I remember that story, it made me so mad! 😅

[@quaruke9489]

The henpicking co workers were probably just jealous. Oof

[@zebnemma]

Yep and I would also advice the guy to not do a 3 month break while he thinks. I was stupid like that back in the day too and would have test breakups for months with my now ex. Take 1-2 weeks to think and then make up your mind for good. If you don't think too hard about it and just let your gut instinct make the decision then you should go with that. If you start to think waaaay too hard about something you will gaslight yourself into changing your mind. My gut instinct kept telling me "no, no I don't want this anymore" but my brain always ignored that and I ended up gaslighting myself into changing it into a yes... And then when the 3 months was up my ex swooped back and manipulated me too to take him back. Goddamn I was such a fool. And the funny thing was that during those 3 months we had no contact I was actually starting to mentally move on from him so at that point I had already mentaly broken up with him, had the grieving period and moved on. There's no point in even starting the relationship back up if I have already moved on... No feelings left, no love left... It all felt so forced. Like I was forcing myself to love this guy that I didn't love anymore. So obviously that relationship didn't work out.

[@ekuachrist]

Oooo that story made me sooo angry.

[@precious_toebeans]

How mean and manipulative of her to even tell him what her coworkers thought. What was her endgame? To humiliate him on the way out?

[@destinedtogame]

They're girls and not women. They can be so vicious

[@kaykay8855]

Either they’re jealous that op’s gf was in healthy loving relationship or one of them has a crush on the op’s ex

[@damystery123]

My first boyfriend in university would tell me all the time that his friends thought I was "a 4/10" or that "they don't think we suit each other as a couple" etc. It was horrible and made me so self-conscious. Telling your partner that there friends/family/coworkers are putting you down because of looks or personality is just the worst. The ONLY time it should be brought up is its to let their partner know that they won't be having that person around anymore because they were being cruel. Even then, don't go into details. Just say they were being mean and that you don't want to be around someone like that.

[@annhans3535]

She is mean and wants to break him down. thinking he would become her lap dog.

[@Yamismol]

Right? He mentioned they talked about everything, but even if she said it because of that he had to ask about her thoughts?? Like if I brought that up to my boyfriend I’d also follow up with “She’s ridiculous and needs to mind her own business. That was stupid of her to say” and also probably bring up that I don’t want to be around her anymore. Maybe it’s because I’m not super close with my coworkers to consider many of them friends, but that comment would be a deal breaker and I would never be friends with that person

[@Weirdandwonderfull19]

Wow. The girlfriend is right though, OP is out of her (imaginary) "league", and she's right, OP is way above her league. OP deserves better. The girlfriend has shown her true colours, and they're shallow. She is easily manipulated, and then passes the blame.

[@Park-Kim_VMin]

THIS I feel so bad for OP.

[@paulagoeringer9466]

Yes, this. She's actually doing him a favor showing how shallow, stupid and vapid she is. If they had married, she would cheat on him no doubt. Heartbreak now is better than getting your heart ripped out of your chest, spit and shat on in front of you later with kids caught in the crossfire who might not even be yours. Then she takes half or more of your stuff leaving you a shattered husk. She's pretty on the outside, but fugly on the inside.

[@recycledapathy7411]

Honestly, if she was really "out of his league" then how the hell is she the one feeling insecure about the relationship? I can smell the bullshit from every excuse she's tried to make. Also, those co-workers are probably like, "Chick is dating an educated dude with a stable job at a company that values him, we don't have things that good, let's fuck this up for her."

[@dionysus_adores]

Good partners shut down negative comments about their partners. The co-workers needed to stfu and gf needed to stand up for her partner and not tell op what they were saying.

[@loganblackwood2922]

​@@recycledapathy7411 Women want their men to be a status symbol, if he doesn't reflect positively on her and she is made to believe he is an inferior male, it will start to effect her sense of self as a woman.

[@Tijggie82]

I actually think why he turned 'catatonic' was because he realized he alone had been planning for a future together, while she was just trying to walk away from the relationship. Poor guy.

[@agm5424]

Yup. Most conditioned women yoday only see things in the right here, right now. Thinking or conceptualizing about the future or how the action of the present will affect the future is literally hard for them to the point of being impossible.

[@CyeOutsider]

​@agm5424 If you think that's only true of women, you are wildly misinformed.

[@an0rmalp3rson70]

​@@agm5424no that's more so girls and boys. Men and women are older and fully developed, know what they want to do and have plans. Girls and boys are constantly "in the moment" they don't really truly think, they just Do and are real irresponsible.

[@imweakfordeaky]

Story 1: “Leagues” in dating/relationships are BS. OPs gf is weak minded and easily led astray by random near-strangers (her co-workers she barely knows compared to 7 years total with OP) . Move onward and upward, my dude!

[@pippo17173]

Any person no matter if its a man or women, pulls this crap should tell you that is not a good partner.

[@onurkneezb]

Based on the initial post, I suspect GF picked up on his insecurities, and the OP never laid down the law with her repeating what her co-workers were doing with her. The only reason she is regretful is because of the way her parents and friend group responded, even though not mentioned here, I suspect the co-workers prolly mocked her after she pulled the trigger, or done something else to make GF realize her mistake.

[@slippyquack7672]

​@@pippo17173 man or guy.. ?

[@Kalossupremacy3356]

@@slippyquack7672 ah yes the two genders, man or guy.

[@pippo17173]

@@Kalossupremacy3356 Ya open myself on that mistype XD

[@TsukiKageTora]

Story 2 is absolutely ridiculous. Bridezilla after the fact. She literally told everyone to come at a costume party and had no theme to it and surprised everyone by saying “it’s a wedding”. She assumed the risk of someone coming dressed up as a bride OP dodged a massive bullet in a friendship if she is so easily triggered over OP not knowing it was a wedding when the invitation basically said a “no theme costume engagement party”

[@shay4068]

I wonder if she was also mad at everyone who are wearing white at the wedding LMAO

[@paulinadeboer3604]

My word it is a male! Can we please stop with this short idiot weddingpartys. I realy blame tiktok for this.

[@TheLalacream]

​@@shay4068bride: GAH HOW DARE YOU!? Bedsheet ghost guest: uh . . . Boo??

[@BloodShed4REAL]

@@TheLalacream Better response would be: Oh boohoo. :P

[@srhfitzpatrick]

Right!? The groom could have encouraged a costume change and the bride is adult enough to get married, she’s adult enough to have said something in the moment rather than avoiding her friend all night. The couple are at fault. Nobody else.

[@Weirdandwonderfull19]

Story 2- NTA. His friend and her new husband just sound like exhausting drama. OP is probably better off in the long run without them.

[@dollface2907]

The fact the husband asked why op why he told the bride he said it was fine

[@SidereusOfTheFallen]

@@dollface2907 "Why did you tattle on meeeeee now she's taking it out on ME instead of you"

[@damien678]

Imagine a dude looking so good that he is apparently able to ruin your wedding as a bride because of it lmao

[@IsMgb45]

There was an update were op got contated by the bride friend again: apparently the groom didn't like op and wanted to make him look bad, and when they fought over the "tattleing" they broke up and the bride apologise

[@dollface2907]

@@IsMgb45 the ex husband is a litteraly piece of shit, if you dont like someone you dont try and sabotage and lie you way to win, lies always get caught

[@juanhaines7295]

Story 1 I heard this one. Yet another time of people ruining happy relationships because they think they know better.

[@pippo17173]

honestly man I think this is good for a test because you sometimes need to know how weak your partner is. You don't want to stay with someone who will throw you like garbage.

[@joaolima7131]

​@@pippo17173 yeah, I agree, it could've have happened earlier though, so OP didn't waste 7 years of his life

[@noydb-1]

Its not that they "know better" its that they're jealous that she had someone who loved her and wanted to drag her down their miserable lives as town bicycles. Misery loves company.

[@pippo17173]

@@joaolima7131 ya that is unfortunate but at the very least, op didn't got the usual results when it comes to these stories. None of the friends and family are entitled and op got their full support while the GF got no one. Well deserve. Be happy their aint no cheating like that one story about the op ex fiance going to a bachalor party and having fun with dudes.

[@pippo17173]

@@noydb-1 True. Its sad that unfortionly op's ex decided to complied and join them. People are right in saying there is more because the quick shift should tell you something was up.

[@252stardust]

S1: there's updates op ended up in hospital with a brain tumour. The last update is 10 months ago from his ex saying he's out of surgery and stable. Her and her family are taking care of him and he is moving in with them after the surgery. His ex was devastated by their ending, she quit that job, cut ties with the co-workers and changed her career so is going back to college. They took a break from each other and went no contact, but op ending up in hospital because of the tumour which made them meet again. Op basically said before the surgery that he doesn't know what they are (if they are getting back together or not) and only time will tell.

[@paulagoeringer9466]

That last one is hysterical. Probably the only time wearing a wedding dress to a wedding doesn't make you ta. The fact that you're a dude and she still lost her mind shows how ridiculous she is. Please show a picture of the costume.💖

[@damien678]

Not just a dude, but a dude dressing up as a fairly recognisable cartoon character 💀

[@mikeb5063]

He probably looked better than she did, would explain the salt :D

[@Russman67]

Story 2: I am not going to lie. I heard the title and replied yep! But you can't get in trouble for wearing a wedding dress when you don't know you're walking into a wedding. This is on the friend's husband. They had every chance in the world to keep that from coming a problem.

[@paulman34340]

Especially add that the moment OP discovered it WAS a wedding instead of a party, he immediatly asked the "tool" if it was okay or not and he told him "No Problem!" Some assholes like to play the "well you should have kept insisting against me and walked out all rude despite me telling you it was okay then!" My guess is the asshole Husband THOUGHT it was okay, his wife bitched and he "quietly" let OP take the hit instead of correct her and say HE said it was okay and didn't think it was a problem. Assuming OP would be a "bro" and take the hit for him like an entitled Prick! Then doubled down and play that card! Either way it would be OP fault! So I say "block THEM EVERYWHERE" and let THEM come to bury the hatchet, since they're going to "Die on this hill that OP is the villain of the tale!"

[@Tijggie82]

Also on the bride tbh, she could have just come up to him and asked if he could change before the ceremony. Communication people!!!

[@agentzapdos4960]

@@paulman34340 I think OP was kinda dumb for not asking the WOMAN about the WEDDING. Obviously the groom didn't care, he's guy and it's just a wedding. Weddings are, even today, often the single most important event in a woman's entire life. OP should have gone straight to the bride to ask. He's still NTA though, the whole situation is stupid as hell.

[@j.a.y.j.a.y.1107]

​@@agentzapdos4960 what the actual fuck are you on about? Idk where you got that info about how Grooms don't care about their own wedding but it's complete and utter bullshit.

[@strandedinseattle9931]

@@agentzapdos4960 " Weddings are often the single most important event in a woman's entire life" You're kidding, right? So, according to you, all women the world overt only have 1 reason to live and that is the day they are to legally bind themselves to a partner and become a wife. WTF are you smoking? LOLOL Get tf out of here.

[@nyteshayde1197]

I don't even know this poor guy but my heart is breaking for him. No one deserves that shit.

[@Park-Kim_VMin]

Mine too I am crying right now.

[@johnpauljones9310]

@@Park-Kim_VMin Dude's too soft for modern women. He needs a thicker skin and be more of an AH.

[@mellodees3663]

S2: I like how both the friend and new hubby threw OP under the bus rather than either of them taking responsibility for their actions.

[@cinnabunny4342]

Yep. That marrige not going to last for long 👰🤵

[@rogerrabbit80]

​@@cinnabunny4342 It'll be a race to see which of them can throw the other under a bus first!

[@diarradunlap9337]

@@rogerrabbit80 True, and I hope OP posts later on that his erstwhile friend's marriage has fallen apart (because one of them has cheated), that she's come to him for support and sympathy, and that he tell her where to get off, how to get off, and what to do with herself once she's off.

[@damien678]

I like that he apparently looked so good she felt this insecure and upset over it

[@Scientision]

S1: I think the last thing th GF was expecting was for OP to simply accept the breakup. I'm sure the poisonous click was expecting him to do the whole "Pick Me Dance" or fly off the handle and insult and/or forbid her from the friends, both cases "proving" that he wasn't worth it.

[@keplersdream901]

I don't think that's actually what they said. I think they said that SHE was out of his league. He's college educated and she's a fucking hairdresser. I'm sure someone pointed that out to her.

[@Vannabee13]

I don't think she was thinking at all. Like I REALLY don't think she had any thoughts in her head and was in full NPC mode just doing something because someone told her to do it. Wouldn't be surprised if she lived most of her life by that point on auto pilot not really thinking about the future and what she actually wanted. OP doged a bullet though and needs to find someone mire on his level. Who can think for themselves and consider consequences.

[@beatapogorzelska1241]

@@keplersdream901 I thought so initially but in that case her reason wouldn't be so crashing for him."I feel I can't be with you bc you are too good for me" would provoke a totally different feedback. I don't want to say that all beauticians are crappy shallow individuals but there's some undeniable overrepresentation of them in beauty industry. She may be quite a looker which means for them she deserves a Chad instead of a small change in a looks department regardless his other qualities.

[@beatapogorzelska1241]

@@Vannabee13 Yes, for some people thinking is quite a painful activity.They go along whatever presents itself the most attractive.

[@keplersdream901]

@@beatapogorzelska1241 Wrong. When a woman says, "I feel I can't be with you because you are too good for me," she is expressing HER insecurities. And forget the Chad/Stacey bullshit -- no woman actually thinks like this. This is a fairytale that men made up to "es-plain womens."

[@threeducks157]

My wife a few years back when she was doing her rotation as a med student had a similar situation. Some nurses and physician assistants told her that she was too good for me, that my "looks" would eventually fade. However unlike the lady in the story, She got super mad at them and told them to drop it. They did not drop it and doubled down with the whole "we are just looking out for you" she reported them to the head nuese/their physicians.

[@Gumbier_Than]

Awesome. 😎

[@Park-Kim_VMin]

Story 1. People getting another people's relationships, that is a big giant no no.

[@WhitneyDahlin]

‼️ Does anyone remember that Reddit post from a while ago where this girl got into a relationship with her husband in University. And she had this group of girlfriends and they were all single. So she would go to them for relationship advice and they all gave her terrible advice and it ruined her marriage. She asked whether she should change her last name to his because there was some reason about it something to do with his dead father. And her friends like no you're not a real feminist if you do that. So she refused. She also ignored him and went out with her friends all the time leaving him at home. And her friends said he was a bad person for getting mad. I'm pretty sure she changed her mind about kids right away due to her friends and wanted to focus on her career. So her relationship started to get worse and worse and worse and then when her friends left University and started getting into relationships they all did the exact opposite of what they told her to do! They all took their husband's last names, they all gave up their careers to have children. And now OP was getting divorced from her husband because he's tired of her BS and OP went crying to Reddit saying her friends ruined her life. But they didn't OP was the one who ruined her own life. I always suspected in that story that the friends were envious of OP and were purposefully sabotaging her. I wonder if that's what happened with this story as well and if the co-workers were jealous of how good of a boyfriend OP was and how they were about to buy a house.

[@zoe9190]

@@WhitneyDahlin dont get relationship advice from those who are single, never been married, dont have your same values. Single people who want what you have but dont can be real crappy people

[@tallyp.7643]

R'amen! I mean, they just HEARD about OP 2ndhand. They didn't know him personally. Never met him personally. Just hating on him. Most of this would've been cleared up if she'd said "Have you met him? Do you know him? Then shut the hell up because you don't know what you're talking about." And then enforced that rule. Crap like this is why I--as a woman myself--would hate to work in a place with only women on the payroll. So much cattiness and mean girls crap goes on, and when they see a weak link, they pounce.

[@Park-Kim_VMin]

@@tallyp.7643 Exactly, I hate people most of the time.

[@FrederikEngelmand]

​@@WhitneyDahlin yeah, western women are not for family. Only fun

[@owl7072]

Story 2: Now how are you gonna tell someone that you're having a costume party and that there's no specific theme or anything and then get mad at them when they wear something that you _never once_ specified was off limits. "It's basic knowledge that you don't wear white to a wedding" and it's basic knowledge that nobody knew it was a wedding.

[@ginathecookie]

heh last part made me chuckle mentally you are very much correct

[@tallyp.7643]

Haven't been to a wedding yet where blue-tinged corpse-paint was traditional for the bride, either. Maybe at a wedding-funeral combo?

[@damien678]

​@@tallyp.7643 He clearly looked so good she felt legit insecure LMAO

[@lya9677]

@@damien678 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[@WobblesandBean]

OP 1 dodged a bullet. He's WAY better off without her. My fiance's ex told him his OCD was the reason she left him, and for six years he felt like he was broken and unworthy of love because of something that isn't his fault. Her loss, he's the absolute sweetest, kindest man I've ever met, and I have never been treated so well by a guy in all my life. It just sucks that both him and OP had to have their self esteem shattered because of a cruel ex.

[@juliamiller2299]

Wow! She broke up a 5-year relationship because she was convinced by her co-workers that OP wasn't worthy? And then wants to get back together? Sorry, you made your choice and crushed me. There is no longer any trust left in this relationship. If you talk to her, wish her well and say goodbye. There is nothing left to save.

[@loryndabenson2118]

Right? And the ring he described sounded so thoughtful. I'd cherish it forever. Poor guy he deserves way better.

[@bepolite6961]

@@loryndabenson2118 Also sounded very expensive and the box he made shows he is a very skilled capable kind of guy, also probably has a decent well paid job. This girl is stupid, she does not have the sense to realise what she had. All this is based on how he looks and nothing else, he is better off without her, she sounds like a very shallow person, I would advise he stay broken up, to many risk factors here, way too many.

[@justaperson4656]

Damn, op in story 1 is a gem. The effort put into the box? Amazing. She made a massive mistake throwing him away like that

[@irimac1806]

Alone the mix of their biethstones together as a heart ❤

[@owl7072]

Story 1: Girl threw away a 7 year relationship for people she's known for what, like a year? I genuinely don't know, I didn't catch how long Op said it was, I just know the time she's spent with them was significantly shorter than _7 years,_ yet she threw that away and expected him to just take her back like nothing happened and she didn't just crush his soul for no reason.

[@keplersdream901]

It was bullshit. She was insecure. He accepted the breakup because, I think, on some level, he knew she was BELOW him. Sorry, but cosmetology isn't quite the same as a double major. That's why he mentioned it. Even HE KNEW on some level. (And yes, I'd say the same thing if the genders were reversed.)

[@KittyWillCutYou]

Absolute idiot.

[@tallyp.7643]

Really makes me wonder what the hell happened--the WHOLE story--of the 4 hours between the breakup and her frantic call claiming she made a mistake.

[@Vannabee13]

@Keplers Dream even her parents and her sister thought she was stupid and he was too good for her at that point. That really says something. She seems like she had more growing up to do and wasn't at all in the same state of mind as him, wasn't at all ready for that leap in commitment. Sucks, but at least he found out sooner than after they got married that she had any doubts.

[@keplersdream901]

@@Vannabee13 Yep. I'm a firm believer that partners need to have the same level of education. A cosmetologist and a double-major? Yeah, no. It wouldn't have worked. Even he knew it on some level.

[@Mia-dt3gl]

Story 2 reminds me of a story where OP got crap for wearing a white dress to a surprise wedding. A wedding that _nobody_ but the bride and groom knew was going to happen. Ugh. Some people just like drama.

[@dionysus_adores]

Surprise weddings are never a good idea, it puts a lot of stress on the guests and anybody who couldn't make it, but could make it to the actual wedding.

[@jessilynallendilla5014]

remember another post where OP was invited to a christening and at christenings it's traditional to wear white so here's the crowd wearing white and the christening turns into a surprise wedding

[@goawayleavemealone2880]

Who the hell has a "surprise wedding", are people really this stupid?

[@vanillablossom]

@@jessilynallendilla5014 was the bride in that story also mad that the guests wore white? 😂

[@jessilynallendilla5014]

@@vanillablossom yup

[@noxiouschocolate9644]

I know op said that there wasn't cheating but I wouldn't be surprised if the coworkers were trying to push her to do so

[@peteranon8455]

I don't even believe her...

[@vanillablossom]

I think she's naive and immature, and has low self esteem, but she was in happy relationship and obviously talking about what they did as a couple. And the coworkers probably are single (not by their own choice) or in miserable relationships, jealous of her, and they poisoned her mind, trying to take her down to their level. And she probably was also a bit shallow to believe them that she's the beauty in this relationship and he's the ugly beast and listened to them. Maybe they even wanted to introduce her to some pretty but shallow boy. Sounds like she has some growing up to do, I'm very curious what the update in 3-4 months say. Idk if I'd want to be in relationship with someone whose mind can be changed so easily and who cannot set clear boundaries. The jealous coworkers talked sh#t about him, so what? She had a gem and probably lost him.

[@Barlmoro]

@@peteranon8455 in those 4 hours, it sounds like she was to the new guy, had some fun and insteadt of him becoming her new boy, he kickt her to the streets and than she realised: f u c k

[@BW022]

The fact she offered the phone was odd. Why? Because she knew the question was coming and anything would have been deleted off it.

[@istoppedcaring6209]

@@BW022 I think it definitely makes more sense if you considder that her parents AND little sister were pissed over it I think she may have actually dropped things about another guy, maybe that ng was so charming and funny or that she was in doubt about op because ng told her she deserves better in the end i can imagine the parents and sister caring enough about her to not jeapordize her chances to get back together in this scenario but would still be pissed about her throwing away a great loving and stable relationship over this might just be the coworkers though

[@ecos889]

Either she was encouraged to play a game to do a "test of faith" to see if her man "truly loves her enough to fight for her" or alternatively she had doubts co-workers just confirmed those doubts. Both are plausible and both are deal breakers.

[@bepolite6961]

My thinking to, a shit test that back fired on her? It's a possibility. Your right about them being deal breakers, to easily influenced what next? the old, he was the only guy she had been with and felt she had missed out on life bullshit. Man would be a fool to go back and to be fair it sounds like he would have no problem finding another more solid girl.

[@shelby6]

my ex did a lil test and asked us to break up. I agreed, next thing this man is angry at me saying he wanted to see me fight for him 🤷🏼‍♀️ make it make sense 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@crazypyp5871]

Saying one is out of someone’s league is just another way to put someone down and judge them on looks and say: “you two shouldn’t be together because to me, I see you as beautiful and your partner as ugly” Beauty is subjective to each individual person and the standards of beauty are thus ever changing.

[@zoe9190]

Whereas inner beauty regardless of outer beauty is worth much more long term in a relationship. Them being pretty/handsome is never the reason someone leaves a longterm relationship, its because of whats inside, if thats bad, you dont want to stay

[@steelheart538]

It's like saying "you will never be good enough for me".

[@Creepypastareader]

Bro when he hit her with the “You listened.” From a comment. Exquisite

[@pandytrashpanda5685]

S1: friends, coworkers, family, strangers on the street can't get between you and your partner any more than you let them. She made an informed choice to see if he'd do a dance and beg, and blamed someone else for her own actions and thoughts. Absolutely ridiculous, childish behaviour. I'm glad she did this before he proposed, they married and had a house together.

[@RayNightshade12]

Haven’t heard the first story yet, but the fact that she needs that kind of attention and validation from others to tell her what to think, she doesn’t deserve the OP

[@Russman67]

Story 1: Okay I'm assuming that the ex-fiance's friends have someone in mind for her to be dating. She doesn't want to admit that she's dating anybody or has been dating anybody, but you don't make those kind of moves without another branch to swing to.

[@philwill0123]

Or they are jealous and hated she wouldn't go out with them. Some people (men and women) want to trash friends secure relationships so they can be single together. They spread the "grass is greener" stuff and then people find out they ditched a good relationship for "single life". Doesn't have to be a monkey branch at all. Just the view that person "deserves more" or has "missed out".

[@tishjanuary7379]

Wondering if the gf had someone else in mind & they rejected her. Whole thing seems off.

[@Russman67]

@@tishjanuary7379 It could be that those "friends at work" are just her way of dodging blame for stepping out of the relationship. In that case it's not her that's to blame for the situation. It's the friends at work who you'll never see/meet.

[@paulman34340]

@@philwill0123 This I agree with, it was said that she talked about OP and their relationship alot around the workplace with co-workers and clients! This was clear "mean-girl" taking advantage of her "reverance/work relationship being stable" mindset to ruin her outside work relationships! She didn't just lose OP, but ACTUAL friends listening to those witches and surprising me NOT! They aren't going to take any responsiblity because "Why should they!" They gave purposely bad advice sure! But SHE IS THE ONE TO LISTEN TO IT NO QUESTIONS ASKED! A large amount of OP questions she COULD answer, she just chose not to because they were largely "in the moment" and she'd humilate herself ALOT MORE she thinks then just telling him "She doesn't know" if she admits "it was a spur of the moment!" But OP was able to come to the same result WITH OR WITHOUT her answering correctly so it was meaningless! Not saying it may have protect her. But honestly, go down with SOME DIGINITY at least!

[@ginathecookie]

well, sometimes you (they) do or sometimes the friend doesn't tell the ex they have someone in mind

[@gcarr1089]

Story 1 - gf is toxic, OP deserves a gf that truly loves him. Bet she cheated on him in those 4 hours. Wedding dress - the fact OP is a guy, why would bride think a man in a wedding dress would upstage her. Especially one covered on blue paint.

[@Vannabee13]

He said he was a cosplayer. Bet he killed it with that cosplay while everyone else wore simple store bought Halloween costumes. I've seen people do some seriously stunning Corpse Bride cosplays, and some male cosplayers who make prettier women than actual women.

[@jadebolt4416]

I really hate this whole 'out of my league' thing. People are equals, no one is better than someone else. No one is above someone else when it comes to dating. Sure you have scumbags. you have good people and bad people, but no one person is superior to another. This whole going into a relationship with the mindset of not being good enough or that your partner is better than you. No. this girl screwed up by listening to colleagues who don't know anything. They are colleagues, friendly acquaintances they are NOT friends. Maybe she was too young for such a serious committed relationship, she allowed herself to be led far too easily. she is young and this is a lesson she needs to learn from so next time she'll know better

[@paulagoeringer9466]

Yeah but young isn't an excuse for listening to a stranger she just met over her bf she's been with for seven YEARS. That's not a mistake, that's stupid on a whole other level.

[@joaolima7131]

I only hear this phrase from people with low self esteem that think they aren't worth it of that person (in my country is "too much sand for your little truck") when it's the confident person who says it, than it's just shows arrogance and self centeredness Edit: SRKH also raises a good point, didn't thought about that, I think that's the only exception it would have

[@srkh8966]

Being out is someone’s league exists, it’s just not about money. Good people are superior to scumbags.

[@zachanikwano]

@@srkh8966 But having that mindset of “I’m better than you because I’m nice/rich/successful or whatever” is inherently poisonous to a relationship. It’s selfish ego. Stating a difference between the two partners is one thing. Knowing what positive traits you can bring to the relationship, and knowing what negative traits need working on is good. But believing you’re superior because of it is another.

[@srkh8966]

@@zachanikwano lol-you shouldn’t get involved with someone you feel superior to in the first place.

[@Alissandre_Iskander]

It's one thing to sit and reflect on the relationship and realize it for yourself (like, you take stock of everything and realize the person is actually pretty shitty or they treat you like you're not important to them), even if someone else said something. It's another to just go with what someone outside the relationship says and for such a stupid reason.

[@pippo17173]

Its always showing how weak a person is. Also I am gonna sound means, but I laugh and laugh on friends, family, and others just leaving. Well earn.

[@Alissandre_Iskander]

@AnimeWolfgamer it reminds me of the recent "babytrapping" story.

[@pippo17173]

@@Alissandre_Iskander if your talking about the one where op's ex wife went all nuclear because of what his friend went threw then ya.

[@Alissandre_Iskander]

@AnimeWolfgamer the ex husband

[@k3upikachu]

Story 1-related anecdote: When I was in high school, my boyfriend introduced me to his longtime physical therapist who I started seeing for sports-related chronic pain. He and I usually talked during my sessions, and one day he decides to tell me that I'm settling for my bf and way out of his league. I laughed and said "i guess it depends on who you ask, but I don't think so." shutting it down immediately. I heard that from other people several more times throughout college, and never let it influence my decision to stay with him. I ended things with him because he became a heavyyyyy stoner and we had clearly diverged our paths in life, but I never, ever would have broken up with him because of others' opinions. That's a weak-minded thing to do smh. If OP's gf was that easy to sway, I wouldn't trust her not to be influenced like that again. Trust gone 🤷

[@paulagoeringer9466]

Yeah. This is how she acts with no stress in their relationship, how weak is she? He's way better off without that anchor around his neck. He would be carrying the relationship and have to constantly monitor her because she would definitely cheat with the first guy to hit on her and lie to her.

[@TheTrueKarin]

Story 1 Damn, I am 110% sure that in that moment everyone in that room (her mind, her dad and her) realized who truly was out of the league between those two. Op, you may love her- still love her- but you can never forget that one person is way more important than your love interest. Yourself. Self love. She hurt you over a long time, humiliated you because she felt flattered because of stupid things, broke up cruelly and then cried wolf around ,,Buh!!! I broke up with him - Op will probably kill himself because of it. Poor me!“ That is no love. Know it’s the moment you show self respect. You may had a nice time together but that shit ruined it and it will never be the same again. That is the moment you both should go seperate ways.

[@paulagoeringer9466]

Know that there will always be someone jealous of what you have and be willing to lie, spread nasty gossip and anything else to wreck your relationship. How you handle that is who you are.

[@Vannabee13]

For story one, don't ever accept "I don't know" when asking someone why they did something. At best it means they haven't self reflected enough to learn their lesson so they won't make the same mistake again. That reflection and self awareness is crucial for growth. At worst they know exactly why they did it but they don't want to say it because it makes them look bad. And the humility to properly own your mistakes is also crucial for growth.

[@AndyyWithAY]

My dental hygienist gave me an A plus on my dental routine. Last summer I went to another dentist and got the wonderful bday gift of finding I need some very expensive work done. Welcome to adulthood. But glad I don't need anything else

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Glad it's over with sorry it happened on your bday though 🤗🤗💜💜

[@kampar82]

Maybe get a second opinion, just in case.

[@BruinPhD2009]

Anyone else wondering if any of these coworkers have ever had a happy/successful relationship?

[@vanillablossom]

I have similar train of thoughts, they probably were single by not own choice or in miserable relationships and tried to drag her down to their own level, because they were jealous of her happiness. Or maybe they were even shallow enough to truly believe she's the beauty and he's the ugly beast and that beautiful women should date only handsome men. If that's the case, it would also explain why they don't see any value in her relationship, if the guy is ugly (by their standards, ofc, because objectively he might be good or average looking).

[@blackearl7891]

Probably not. Misery loves company

[@chariezwane3981]

We all know they haven't.

[@callmeginga]

They work in a salon, 148% they have not.

[@SteamS01dier]

@@callmeginga I only know of one salon worker who is happily married and she lives in Poland, owns the salon, and it is part of her house.

[@beccaf262]

the only reason I would tell my partner my coworkers were talking shit is if he asked "hey why don't you hang out with your coworkers anymore"

[@soulwantscookies]

Theres another update: After my last post, I tried getting my life back together. I had limited contact with my ex up until about a week ago (that jumping ahead tho) in did like I said I would do. I did some self reflection, some therapy sessions (with my therapist who I have been with for a while), and hung out with friends to get me back going right. It was working, too. I got to the point where I wasn't always thinking about Kate all the time. I did feel down about things sometimes and but I was really getting myself back. I also threw myself into my work that my therapist said it was unhealthy. So, I cut back to a more normal schedule. From what I Larned about Kate during this time. She was also able to get into therapy. She quit her job and left in a way that burned all bridges to her ex coworkers' petty island. She has a different job in a different field and is planning to go back to school in the spring. She would ask our shared friends (they did not just drop her and were there for her when she needed them) if they had seen me and how I was. They would usually just say doing well and living. I actually ran into her a few weeks after the break up, and my heart skipped. She did not look like the woman I knew. She looked defeated and down. She was out with some of her other friends, and I could tell she was faking the smile and laughter. She did not see me. It did make me sad to see it. I still have the ring. It is in a safe spot. The box I was able to modify and gave it to another friend to use. She said I should sell it, but I declined. So, over all things were getting better. I was still going to hold firm on the no contact, but life doesn't always happen. That way, several things prevented that. We ended up seeing each other face to face 2 times. One bing her little sisters play for school. I had pinky promised her I would be there and you can't break pinky promises. The second was a mutual friends birthday. We kept out distance but did do some small talk and blended into the environment. But things changed for me and our situation about a week ago. I still don't have much memory of the day, but this is what my friends have told me. For about a month now, I have been getting migranes right behind my eye. It would make my vision blur. Thinking it was nothing and was because of all the stress and events in my life, I ignored it. I was out with 2 of my friends walking around talking and shopping. I wasn't feeling well but was still having a good time out. They said we were just walking along when I slowed down, wobbled, and almost face planted(my friend caught me). I then had a seizure for about a minute. Someone called the medics, and I was rushed to the hospital. Long story some what shorter. They ran a bunch of tests, and it turns out I have a brain tumor. I think it is called a Glioma(sp?) that my docs believe they can get out. We are currently waiting for a second opinion. Im still in the hospital and should find out soon when the surgery will happen. My friends called everyone they could, including Kate and her family. She showed up with her family. I missed them. She was the first person I thought about when I woke up and when I heard the news. We have talked very deeply over the past week. She is actually my one "guest" im allowed to have. She is passed out on the uncomfortable seat/bed thing they have. I'm not sure what we are. I do still care about her and love her. The plan moving forward is when my lease is up, I'm not going renew it. Her family has invited me to move in and take care of me if things go well. I have accepted their offer after much consideration. I won't be able to drive for a while. I'm honestly scared. But I have a good support team behind me. My affairs are in order for the worst case. Thanks for reading this far. I hope you all have an amazing day/week/month/year/life. Please do me a favor and tell the people in your life that you care about that you love them and give them a hug for me. You never know what life is going to throw at you.

[@samoanjoseph1457]

Story 2: I have to say... in every instance where I hear people say you can't wear a wedding dress to someone else's wedding... they're saying that to a woman. So the very fact that OP is a guy and got an okay to wear any sort of dress, should end any debate. Plus what he was wearing was in plain view, and he had no chance to change. This is all on the guy who gave him the okay.

[@agentzapdos4960]

To be fair, the groom doesn't get to have an opinion when it comes to his wedding. Traditionally, it's all about the bride and what she likes and wants. Even in 2023 a lot of women see their wedding as the only important day of their entire lives. With that much pressure on a single day to be the sole event to make one's entire life have any meaning, it's little wonder women tend to have psycho bitch breakdowns over their weddings.

[@RockinTheBassGuitar]

Story 2: to me OP is NTA. If you want people dressed appropriately for a wedding, tell them it's a wedding.

[@lacefreak]

Story 1. She had no genuine deep feelings for him and clearly did not value him. If anyone tried to demean my life partner I would slaughter them. Worse, she had the nerve to repeat what was said to him. The only purpose in doing that is to hurt someone. She does not deserve forgiveness and the guy dodged a bullet.

[@brandyb2931]

So she's a hairstylist and her coworkers think she is out of his league? I thought she was a lawyer or something. She is going to regret this down the road while her "friends" set her up with guys who they think is in her league. She will find they are all looks and no substance. She will find that OP is out of her league, that he is in a betyer league than her.

[@FFGirl76]

Story 1: There's more the gf isn't saying. Here's what I think. She listened to the toxic "friends" at her work. She broke up with her bf, and the women probably set her up with someone to meet. She went and it didn't go well. She freaked out and then wanted him back. Also, she's been evasive, and the OP deserves better. Hope he moves on and figures things out.

[@Barlmoro]

sounds possible. and maybe she did more with the dude, but for him it was a one time thing

[@animefallenangel]

Story 2 - I bet the bride was bent out of shape because her male friend looked better in a wedding dress with blue skin than she did in a regular wedding dress XD

[@marleyfrost215]

Story 1 is such obvious rage bait. It's always a perfect guy and the girlfriend breaks up with them for some shallow stupid reason. Hours later shes realized her mistake and is begging for him to take her back. But it's too late and now everyone knows what a POS she is and turned their back on her. She's so evil her previously loving and supportive family disown her. Such trite. Convicted murderers still have family that won't cut them off.

[@Lestaticate]

Story 1: Imagine throwing away a 5 year relationship over some workplace high school "mean girl" crap said about your partner. The fact that GF didn't shut the crap down and listened to total strangers infuriates me. She didn't have so much as an explanation as to why she went through with it. I'm so glad OP put his foot down, saw his worth and had everyone on his side. Just listening to that story gave me secondhand heartache. Story 2: "You can't fix stupid" - Ron White

[@poohbear4515]

I think it should say “My long-term girlfriend just broke up with me because she didn’t listen to her brain and allowed others to get inside her head and warp her mind”

[@ShiNijuuAKL]

she did listen to her brain, because she agreed, even if it was for a couple of hours

[@paulastiles5507]

Story #2: Awww, OP, it's okay. Sometimes, the trash takes itself out. You saved them the trouble of your blocking them. You might want to do that in case they decide they've "punished" you enough, or the marriage falls apart quickly, and they want to impose their stupid on you in future.

[@MingRae1]

Story 2: WTF ok, let them block you, you can do better with friends. If it wasn't you who stepped over a line, it would be someone else. NTA this pore op will probably need some therapy after this. As a fellow cosplayer who has had people bring up issues with their costumes I used to tell people what I'm going to wear to something ahead of time. Now I have a default inflatable pumpkin suit for parties unless requested otherwise.

[@wayneturner8850]

Story 1 Dodge a bullet just imagine what would happen in future Someone suggests open relationship or encourages them to cheat and she goes along with it .

[@maurer3d]

Story 2: NTA, you wore the costume to a costume party, they are the ones who lied, and made it their wedding. On a side note, you knew the party was to celebrate the engagement so it was a little rude to wear the dress but not to the level of being an AH.

[@catsithx]

I want that 3 month later update. I wanna know if he moved on or she got on her knees begging for a chance

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

Story 1: I hope the gf isn't expecting those colleagues to care about her after the break up. They'll just move on to stirring the pot with someone else now like they probably always have for fun at work. It's amazing how many people confuse work colleagues with besties.

[@telinhajp]

Hi, Mark and Poppy! Today's my birthday..I still remember when you sang 'Happy Birthday' to me in one of your lives. It made my day! Thank you so much! Big hugs from Tokyo!.❤️🤗

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TELINHA I hope it will be a great one much love 🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜

[@Park-Kim_VMin]

Happy birthday Telinha 🎉🎂 🎊🎊🎊🥂✨ best birthday wishes to you.

[@ChristopherCapersJones]

Happy Birthday, mate!!

[@telinhajp]

@@broken_queer_but_fighting8589 Thank you! ❤️🤗

[@telinhajp]

@@ChristopherCapersJones Thank you! ❤️🤗

[@dm9078]

If your GF broke up with you because of outside interference you lost nothing. If it hadn’t been them it would have been something or someone else. It wasn’t about the coworkers it is about how she feels about the relationship. Do the things you need to do to get over this. Get to the gym, talk with friends and see a therapist.

[@TsukiKageTora]

Honestly he dodged a bullet because if she was so easily convinced to break up with him, her boyfriend of 7 years (or was it she knew him for 7 years and dated for X amount of those years?) by strangers and coworkers she barely knew and who barely know her and nothing at all about OP, then it’s going to be a constant fear of OP’s to be with her wondering what stranger will say something that will make her break up with him

[@keplersdream901]

Gym and therapist are stupid. Everything else, yes. OP isn't defective, so keep your douchebag advice to yourself, okay, sweety-cakes?

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@keplersdream901 just because you don’t like the advice doesn’t mean other people are the same. Why are you so hostile anyways? Like why does one need to be passive aggressive over advice that could work for OP? Besides, therapy isn’t because he is defective, but to help him through any problems he has emotionally with the betrayal the one he wanted to spend his life with broke up with him because of people she barely knows tells her she could do better

[@keplersdream901]

@@TsukiKageTora Yes, concern troll. Does that make you feel better, kid?

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@keplersdream901 yes, I’m a troll when you were passive aggressive over someone saying to OP that they should get therapy for the pain they are going through or will go through for the betrayal of someone breaking up with them because of stranger’s words. You were the one who assumed “go to the gym, talk to friends, seek therapy” meant they thought OP was “defective”. Don’t go to the gym if you find it so offensive that people gave it as a suggestion of many as outlets for OP when he has any future pain and feelings instead of bottling it up like most people, especially men, do.

[@Grace_x68]

S2 OP should send all the wedding guests a link to this reddit... See who gets blocked

[@keyboardwarrior3702]

Story 2. Lol so NTA If my friend showed up as the corpse bride, even if they knew it was a wedding I'd find it freaking hilarious! Perfect excuse to recreate some movie scenes and stage some "drama" just for laughs. I've always wanted a Halloween wedding anyways, now I'm definitely asking one of my friends to use this costume!

[@RokoFireFox]

I had an ex do this to me. His coworkers told him to break up with me because his friend was better for him and all that jazz. He left me and immediately started dating the friend. 1 year later the girl broke up with him and he came crawling back the same day she broke up with him.

[@rebajoe]

Went through the comments here and there was an update for Story 2 someone discovered but reddit deleted it cos it didn't follow the guidelines. To paraphrase: The groom said it was okay for op to wear the costume then lied about it on purpose so bride would get pissed but friends at the wedding backed up op and told the wife the truth that op offered to change. When the couple fought about it, it came out that husband hated op and wanted to break up the friendship between op and wife, she divorced husband/or got the marriege anulled, dont know how long between wedding and the fight was.

[@c.k.203]

Thank you for showing yourself FINALLY after 7 years. Thank God he didn't waste a ring.

[@thetwinklegg8121]

Story 1 is just so heartbreaking.

[@philipturner9087]

Story 1 - Can’t shake the idea she’s been cheating.

[@Barlmoro]

those 4 hours. i bet she goes to a other dude , did it and than got toast away and than the panik start

[@YourXavier]

Could go either way, but she's at least open to the possibility of trading up.

[@FrostyBob99]

She cheated. Probably had been for awhile. When she went to Chad to tell him the news he left her in the streets. She panicked and came running back. OP probably senses it but it's no matter as she solidly proved the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.

[@MrSqurk]

It reminds me of the woman who divorced her husband to ask someone “perfect” out and the guy just turned her down

[@LordMekenshi]

Someone posted the update a few comments back, but tl;dr OP got brain cancer, and 'Kate' has been with him throughout. They weren't together as of that post. The next update was Kate posting that OP was stable in the ICU, and there's been no update in 3 months

[@DerekScottBland]

If my SO said they were breaking up with me because their co-workers (who have never met me) think that I'm not in her league, I'd probably say "if you're that weak-willed and easily influenced, I don't want to be with you either."

[@maggpiprime954]

Wow. That groom threw OP under the bus with a trebuchet! I'm guessing Corpse Bride is now an omen, lol

[@leaflet1686]

Story 1: So let me get this straight: You are together for YEARS, have absolutely no problems and she (a cosmetics person) is out of her league (a man with a majour degree thingy?)? Dude... I would have married him long ago! And what is those coworkers? That is none of your buisness! You can speak up if you think someone is abused, other than that you shut your trap!

[@bepolite6961]

That ring sounds expensive and he has saved to buy a house so it's fair to assume that that he is a professional with a secure good well paying job. The box he made also suggests he is also skilled with his hands and certainly intelligent. She on the other hand plasters faces, cuts and curls hair! and he is out of her league? I am guessing those harridans she works with based their opinions on the pairs looks, hers of which are probably mostly painted on! Then again this could have simply have been a shit test that back fired on her big time! In any case he can do better than someone who is shallow enough to be influenced by others opinions. I would say if he married her, there is a high probability he would come to regret it.

[@beatapogorzelska1241]

@@bepolite6961 "Don't cast your pearls before swine" case for me. Even her family was fully aware that she was extremely lucky to get him.She's a classic example of a fool who parts easily with their valuables.

[@leaflet1686]

@@bepolite6961 Don't be to mean about styling people, it is not an easy job, but certainly not on his level! That OP is marriage material over 9.000 and I would carry him on a silver platter. Yes, even his sandwiches :D

[@peteranon8455]

Story 1. Well, at least this all happened before they got married.

[@youarehere594]

People can get into your head. When the hubby and I were first married, we had some significant financial issues. At that time he developed a friendship with this guy who was constantly dragging him out. One day after I came home from work he confronted me and asked if I was using him. I looked at him and said, for what? poverty? He said that snapped him back to reality but this guy had really gotten him convinced that I was somehow taking advantage of him. If the girlfriend had a number of people saying the same thing, its easy to see how they got in there. I just feel bad for the two of them.

[@SherriLyle80s]

Lol I have to laugh. I was once a looker. But Father Time gets to us all. To say "out of my league" based on what? Looks? It can't be smarts or income. It looks like he's got his sh!t together and she is going to regret her decision.

[@bepolite6961]

You got it in one. It's his looks. She and those other harridans she works with live in a world where is about looks. Everything in it is painted and false and feeds off compliments and admiration.. He on the other hand lives in the real world. Chalk and cheese, better off without her.

[@JasperCatProductions]

Story 2 dump these friends they are absolutely ridiculous. How the fudge were you yo know? The husband lies? Nah bye jerks!

[@milkandhoney84]

I had a coworker that said my boyfriend looked mean (he does have a Grumpiness about him lol. He's no nonsense and not talkative) I shrugged my shoulders and said he's actually really caring, empathetic to others and treats me the way I want to be treated. Besides, I too have resting B-face lol.. We've been together almost 20 years, married for 16.

[@ronniec427]

Story 2: Reminds me of the surprise wedding that had been billed as a baptism so multiple women wore white and the bride got all butt hurt and even some of the guests were nasty to the women who had wore white (apparently wearing white to baptisms is common in this person's culture). If you are going to have a surprise wedding, you can't get bent out of shape at people wearing something not wedding appropriate. NTA. Geez.

[@danielortiz1886]

The thing about it is that she let people control her decisions. Every single night she will regret listening to her coworkers. I wouldn’t be surprised if he will walk away completely. He should for his own sake. She will regret everything and losing someone who genuinely cared about her. He should move away and just find someone who will actually never doubt their relationship. OP, you did good and you should never look back. Once you always have those thoughts, it’s impossible to shake doubt from your mind. As for your ex, she can do whatever she wants, it won’t change anything

[@justinchristoph3725]

One thing I've witnessed about some people who think that they're "out of their league" of their current partner... they eventually find out that the people whom they've been assuming are actually "in their league" have little interest in them.

[@emnorfolk5559]

I had a book, about lizards, when I was a kid, called "i am better than you"... Spoiler he wasnt! It was about some lizard that thought it could change colour when they couldn't!

[@Incarosster]

That marrige in story 2 is either not gonna last, or going to be EXTREMELY toxic and held together by sturboness. Likely with a lot of cheating going on. The Husband can't even take blame for his own mistakes.

[@kaijumage5379]

Story 1: I agree with Mark that there's a lot of missing context on the ex-GF's side, especially in those 4 hours before she had her "I love OP" epiphany. My money's on her finally catching wind of his intended proposal, which caused her to crap a brick. I'm sure hearing her side wouldn't make her decisions any less stupid, just fill in some gaps. OP is definitely better off without her.

[@kampar82]

Or she caught some duck during that time and it wasn't as good as she expected.

[@bepolite6961]

Sounds like mommy, daddy and little sister had words with her, there is that "being influenced by others again." Huge red flag.

[@ugan2]

Could be something as simple as her brain finally clicking with the epiphany that she royally messed up. You'd be amazed with what people realize by just sitting by themselves for a bit. Other scenario, she probably told someone she was close to (sister most likely as she basically stopped talking to ex once this went down) and they told her what she did was stupid and gave her the nth degree I also think the theory that the loyalty test was also viable.

[@idreadFell365]

Story 1: She blew it Story 2: The groom blew it

[@BohemianScandalous]

If she passing on all those things the coworkers saying to OP part of her at least agrees with them. And do you want to really be with someone like that? She’s constantly telling you that she’s embarrassed to be with you because she’s letting you know what her shallow coworkers think all the time. If it even is the coworkers. Edit: oh my god that ring and box. You can tell he loved her so much. He deserves so much better. And with little spots to add in birthstones of any kids???? I don’t even like kids but that’s such a wonderful idea for a ring.

[@daveo1808]

Jealous co workers wanted another single woman in their miserable flock

[@Iflie]

"her insecurities" made her think she was out of his league? She went to cosmetology school, what has she going going for her other than looks? they are all shallow and she has no spine, she liked hearing she could do better. I do not agree there are no leagues but this is not it, it's based on all your attributies, not just looks. But I think she must have talked down about him at work.

[@Detector1977]

s1: Just felt sadness. It really hurts hearing that...

[@The_General_Zubas]

Happened to my Dad. My mom worked with a bunch of Divorced people, Convinced her to get a divorce. I blame it on the Divorced women, who hates others being in successful marriages.

[@l.y.1486]

That first story made me think of this Korean saying that goes something like “a woman’s worst enemy is another woman”. I wonder how many of those women were just bitter that she was young and in a healthy/loving relationship with a good/faithful man that wanted a future with her. If he takes her back, I hope they go to couples counseling, they’re gonna need it.

[@iononcantomascrivo]

Regarding the first story, a very appropo quote by Maya Angelou comes to mind: “If someone shows you who they are, believe them.” OP absolutely deserves better. His ex-girlfriend thinks that she is out of his league? She's right, but not for the same reasons. Anyone who would be that easily manipulated and abandon their paper-thin principles solely because of the court of public opinion or peer pressure is not someone to build a life with. OP absolutely deserves someone who won't devalue his feelings, make passive-aggressive comments or repeat insults that are made about him. A true fiance would have shut down the verbally abusive, condescending comments made about OP and defended him as they had spent the better part of half a decade together. What made her reconsider was not guilt. It was shame. Just as easily as she was led to end her relationship with OP, she was shamed by people close to her, including family, for doing so. She had a great big oh fuck moment realizing she had royally screwed up. Actions do have consequences and she is now being forced to have accountability by dealing with the reprisals for her snap decision. The fact that OP's now ex-girlfriend allowed a bunch of coworkers, that she barely knew, to manipulate her into breaking up with OP just dumbfounds me.

[@spencerb8803]

Oh I remember story 2. The husband lied to the wife and said that OP refused to change, and that's why she went off, then a bunch of friends told her that OP did offer to change, and she got a fight with her husband, and it turned out that husband hated OP and was using that opportunity to break up their friendship. The last update is that she divorced him

[@LongNight_Moonlight]

Hello Mark, Poppy and fellow Walffles one & all! Was listening to old videos skimmed the title for this one and clicked on it; only realized it was today's today's last upload when I saw top comment was made 4 mins ago 😂

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Heyo m8 hope you're well

[@LoneTiger]

Here's how a well-adjusted person would respond: A: _"Why are you with him, you can do so much better, he's not in your 'league'."_ B: _"For starters, he's not you."_

[@pippo17173]

Always be happy when your ex will show you up front what they are as people. Garenteed the person will leave you because they think your just beneath them.

[@gracewaltemeyer9796]

I had a friend who used to talk so much shit about my bf to me, all because were high school sweethearts and kept telling me to "play the field". Did I break up with him? Nah I cut off our 6 year friendship, because she wanted me to be as miscible as she is. Op's ex has NO excuse, she's just shitty.

[@enjolireyes643]

Story 1- on part one… honestly sounds like miserable single women who want to have OPs girlfriend also be single and miserable. Stop listening to women who can’t keep a man!

[@imweakfordeaky]

Hey now, I’m a 57 year old, never-married Old Maid, and I think the girlfriend is a weak-minded knucklehead. Just because I “can’t keep a man” (🙄) doesn’t make me a miserable, nosey relationship-destroyer. There is no such thing as “out of one’s league” unless the people talking that crap are extremely shallow and lacking in good judgment.

[@enjolireyes643]

@@imweakfordeaky I’m only speaking to the people at the salon. Jealousy and envy are horrible and I do not shift any of the blame from OPs ex but for those women to even twist their lips to speak about someone’s relationship that they truly know nothing about can also be spoken about. Crab mentality type people are going to crab.

[@paulagoeringer9466]

This. It sounds like a case of bitter bish syndrome.

[@tavogeos6381]

the first story follow up after this video is heartbreaking for a crazy reason

[@ianmoritzplatapino3684]

Glad he broke up with her. A person like her, weak minded and easily influenced, is the worst kind for any kind of relationship. He went from beta to boss. He acted like a person who has a spine and self respect to know when he had to draw the line and enforce consequences for her choices, what she did wasn't a mistake she chose to listen to them. As usual no accountability from her and blame everyone but her self for her choices. It'll be har in the beginning but, in thr end, he will realize this is a blessing in disguise. An standing ovation 👏 for this man

[@dandotvid]

A surprise wedding is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of.

[@Vipre-]

Story 1: This is a reason in my opinion high school relationships should stay in high school. Story 2: Be thankful you're rid of those two idiots.

[@TT-fy6hk]

she never went beyond highschool

[@Vipre-]

@@TT-fy6hk Which is part of the problem with those relationships in general, neither really ever do because they don't know anything beyond what's been their normal forever.

[@matttillman7430]

20:28 OP Wears White to a Wedding. The couple have blocked OP on everything. Possibly some of his and the couple's mutual friends also have blocked him. He should post to EVERYBODY who has NOT blocked him his side of the story, and ask them to relay to the others that he's okay with the ones who have blocked him exiting his life. They all also knew it was a costume party and he was in a costume, and the wedding itself was sprung on him unawares. He asked and was told he didn't need to change. OP should lay it all out, throwing the groom under the bus, which is right where he belongs. Those who turned against him have exposed how they feel about him when he's accused by not checking with him before acting on the evil report they had been told. He doesn't need them in his life and he thanks the trash for taking itself to the curb. But that's just my outsider's view talking.

[@jimfahey2329]

They grew up together but they did not mature together. He's way better off without her.

[@HH-ru4bj]

I've never had anything that bad happen to me, but in a similar vein as being influenced by others and wanting to start over once they realized they didn't have better options. In that case though it was pretty clean and impassioned as I just walked away, got a new phone and moved as if that was that was all. If someone can let others influence them so easily as to convince them to break up with their SO just so they can have another party member, then it's not going to work out well in the long term anyway.