Pro Stock 600$ vs Commercial Wilson Blade 18x20

[@alwaysfinishwhatistar1521]

This is a misleading video in many ways. First: You tested the Blade Pro/H22 vs the regular Blade. They are both available for sale. One is a bit cheaper, but the BPro is 250€. There is another pro stock by Wilson, the H19/UltraPro/Tour. But the BPro is not the same racket as the Blade. Please, take a look at the hoop, you’ll see it. In the H22 it’s straight and squared and in the Blade it’s curved. Yeah, it’s more expensive, but available even when these are a bit stiffer than the Wilson Originals Pro Stocks. Yes, other pro stocks are more expensive.

[@alessandroantonelli1723]

How do you know It Is a Blade pro and not real pro stock?

[@evadejong2532]

Great video! Super helpful comparison! 🙏🏽👌🏽 Keep it going guys!

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thank you very much!

[@AnkeethM]

Nice review, I like that you mentioned that customization with lead, leather grip etc. can make the commercial racket more finely tuned to your preferences than a 'Pro Stock' racket. Everyone should try adding a bit of lead to their rackets, it can really change the way you feel about them, especially the stability!

[@gladiatorstribe]

You're absolutely right on this one!

[@tianyang3]

I gotta say I see so much potential in this channel. Both you guys have some natural comedic talent and are very decent players. There are so much else you guys can explore outside gear reviews e.g. trick shot matches, wheelchair matches, or tennis lifestyle(I don't even know if there's a such thing but would love to see how you guys invent it). With the rapid growth of the tennis community worldwide, I can only see you guys succeed. Plus, editing is pretty good. Keep the uploads coming!!

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thank you very much! Such a positive and constructive feedback, really appreciate it! We have many ideas, even outside the tennis court but with rackets as you said. It's a matter of having the time for more time demanding projects and some other things. Though we definitely have many more cool ideas that I'm sure you'll love! Thanks a lot once again!

[@TheRockyBalboa100]

@@gladiatorstribe Maybe in the future a video about stringmachines. Is it worth to buy a stringmachine, if yes which one. How to string your own rackets, comparisons between stringmachines, etc. Awesome video. Keep it up.

[@johnrb9397]

You guy's nailed it with this one! Love how you take on board content suggestions from the glads. Keep up the great content and all the success to you both.

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thank you so much! Of course, we always listen to the Glads fam!

[@Xtefanno]

I agree with this video except that you can customize a retail racquet because prostocks may also have different flexibility than retail racquets

[@gladiatorstribe]

That's true, though changing all of the other specs is the important thing. While the flexibility can be similar in stocks.

[@Official.tadiwa]

Also not true just because its painted blade doesnt mean it is, demon is using a wilson steam 99 painted as a blade, badosa is using wilson blx 100 so is raducano, svitolina was using a blade painted as a steam. Halep is using a pro staff painted as a blade

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thanks! Though we never said the players use the rackets that they seem to use by the paintjob. We just said that the pros play with glossy rackets.

[@hrabmv]

I have a shop where they sell some Willson pro racquets at very good price, but Pro staff is the same, so there is no difference. Thank you!!!

[@gladiatorstribe]

That is awesome! Thank you!

[@tangox65]

The new commercial rackets of today will be the mold of the rackets of professional tennis players in the future, because as you said, tennis players do not like to change rackets when they have been professionals for a while (although there are exceptions, such as shapovalov?. ..who knows)...which, by the way, when they started they used commercial molds customizing them to their needs...so in a few years we will see alcaraz, berretini, sinner using today's rackets, but with the paint job of the future... the wheel always turns and starts again...as always great video guys

[@hybrid11theory75]

Well, no. Pro stock racquets are not only about the mold, it's about custom grip pallets, weight and balance distribution, material used inside the racquet. These racquets are not made in China either. They are made in Pro Labs of the companys headquarters. These racquets are complete different to their retail models...

[@tangox65]

@@hybrid11theory75 I agree with you, maybe you missed the part where I say "...when they started they used commercial molds customizing them to their needs"...and then when the company and the player begin to work together, they start to build the racket acording with what you say...but i don't think when nadal start playing at junior level babolat made an especial mold for him, in fact nadal used the pure drive until babolat decided to make a new racket (the aero), but nadal is a particular case

[@gladiatorstribe]

Yeah, that's pretty much what happens. It's a matter of people wanting to play with what they're used to at its best possible version.

[@hybrid11theory75]

@@tangox65 My bad.. ;)

[@allchannel1841]

no in the case of the blade they presented it's not an old blade, it's an H22 it's a completely different mold that you can't buy ont the market !

[@pier6240]

Glossy paint is because glossy colors are more visible on camera so the racket is more recognizable.

[@gladiatorstribe]

How about Roger's Pro Staff?

[@pier6240]

@Gladiators Tennis checkmate lol But the Wilson logo is glossy

[@gladiatorstribe]

@@pier6240 You got me here! Congratulations, well played 😂😂😂

[@robinhozinho7853]

...a completely off-topic question, which sneakers is Areg wearing (outdoor while chatting)?? was looking for these for a long time ☺ video is great & very funny, as always, especially Areg is on top here, in a great mood ;))

[@benjaminjensen111]

Glossy paint is to being able to change grip faster. the Pros ask for this. Glossy paint also creates a different surface that is more aero-dynamic.

[@dimitristzimis3238]

"Under the makeup...." . Well said Areg!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@gladiatorstribe]

😂😂😂

[@johnrb9397]

Thumbnail; Areg's holding his trophy after winning his first tournament 😂🤣.

[@gladiatorstribe]

😂😂😂

[@matrix_virus]

The pro players playing with wilson blades and even some other players, play with the h22 Pro stock model. It is essentially the wilson blade v5 18x20.

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thanks!

[@cillianmurphy7086]

As I own both 18X20 rackets the h22 painted in blade pro v8 and normal blade v5, I can assure you they are different. In stock mode, h22 has a thicker beam, heavier head, and more aggressive balance and totally different feeling when hitting.

[@johnrb9397]

So in summary the Blade Pro has more feel than the equivalent "commercial racquet", stability out of the box is better also but the commercial could be spec'd to have the equivalent stability with the addition of weight. I love my Blade Pro ☺ and feel that each time I step on court I have the tool to do the job 😉. Tennis is a mental game, right?

[@gladiatorstribe]

That's a perfect summary of the 12 minute video and the 3 days it took us to make it! You pretty much nailed it! That's an awesome racket you got there! Tennis is a mental game for sure and your frame gives you +3 in confidence 😉

[@richpower07]

I know the Blade Pro is said to be an H22, but I have both the Blade Pro and a Pro Stock H22. The only noticeable difference is the Blade Pro is a bit stiffer than the H22.

[@johnrb9397]

@@richpower07 👍 They changed the layup (at certain positions within the frame) to make it stiffer for more free power for us amateurs.

[@cybernetennis]

Now that the Pro Stock is available in v8 design its a no brainer for cosmetics too cause the "paint job" is beautiful in glossy.

[@ScarceRhino]

Great video! I just demoed the gravity mp and like it, I am thinking about testing it along side the speed mp to see which is better.

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thank you very much! They're pretty close in terms of how they play, so that's a great idea!

[@ignacioitualv]

Nice video guys! Review on the New Ezone 100 2022 please!!!! Keep up the amazing content!

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thank you!! Will do!

[@fosho8214]

These are 2 different racquets, the only thing the same is that they are control oriented. mold, layup, stiffness, feel and even string spacing is different. No amount of lead tape will change these things. lol If you look, on the h22/BP you only skip once on bottom, when you string the blade you skip twice on each side when doing mains on bottom. That said the blade is still a great racquet just different.

[@a2casius]

Spot on. My thoughts exactly.

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thanks for sharing, though I think that's what we've said 🤔 Weight is probably one of the main aspects that affect the racket's performance, that's why we wanted to keep it close. Though as we said, pretty much different rackets.

[@giovannibettini2246]

pretty much spot on, people tend to get exited when they read "pro stock" but they are really just older versions of the racquet, finely tuned with silicon and lead.They confuse "pro rooms" with "pro stock". "pro rooms" are racquets made with different materials like the head pt57a which are very exclusive and can cost up to 700/800 euros. Not that they make you play better tho.

[@gladiatorstribe]

You're right! No magic here unfortunately ☹️ All comes down to the player not the racket 😬

[@giovannibettini2246]

@@gladiatorstribe i've tried one pt57a and it punished me for every mistake in technique, they are terrible tournament racquets, i think they are more suited for training so you can fix your technique

[@gladiatorstribe]

@@giovannibettini2246 I see your point but I guess it depends on the specific spec.

[@lsfire3489]

what about the wilson blade pro 18 x 20 ? it is 250 dollars from wilsons own store. according to spec it is 21.45 mm thick in the beam which would give it more stability. So you can get the pro stock for way less than 600 dollars

[@allchannel1841]

Yes they made a confusion between the H22 and blade pro!

[@johnrb9397]

@@allchannel1841 Blade Pro is the H22 mold with slightly stiffer layup. Blade nomenclature just for marketing since pros often promote Blade. And yes slight confusion from the guys as yes you can pay $600+ for a used h22.

[@minecraftiapigslayer]

Since they’re not located in the US they can’t actually order from Wilson themselves. That is why the cost is so high compared to the $250 one might see if they were purchasing it in the US.

[@johnrb9397]

@@minecraftiapigslayer mmm okay you just order online direct from Wilson? We get them here in Australia, from China factory..

[@gladiatorstribe]

Lucky you guys! It's pretty much impossible to get these at this price here. It's hard to get them I'm general but if you manage to, they're usually used and way up there in the price. Around 500 Euros was what I found. I hope you won't blame us for the 600$ screaming price in the title 😂😂

[@クリームイカ]

First I thought why not they just straight sell the mold to us At last, I guess maybe they think the mold is too good and people won't want to buy other racquets in the future and they can't make money

[@Official.tadiwa]

I want to correct you because what you said isnt correct, pro stock racket are made from molds that are ONLY AVAILABLE to PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS, H22, H19, theyre not called blades and all these other name theyre called by their mold names. Commerical rackets are called blade, steam, pr staff etc. Wilson has only allowed regular buyers to have access to a few of these molds. H22, H19. In different variations,

[@MisterG300]

Cool! I did not look at the video yet but the topic is golden 🤩 going to wacht right now 😀

[@gladiatorstribe]

Awesome! We hope you liked it!

[@MisterG300]

@@gladiatorstribe I did! Nice topic 🙂 I am playing with the original H22, is more customizable than the pro stock blade. All great rackets. Your channel is doing well and wish you all the best, keep those vids coming 🤩

[@julianchiu8893]

Cool video guys. Little off topic but can you guys do a top 5 (or bottom 5) racquets that you just really don't like (ones you've reviewed or not).

[@gladiatorstribe]

That idea has been on our mind and I already know which racket would be the winner for me 😂😂

[@vintagetennisracquetsandso4618]

phenomenal presentation

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thank you very much!

[@zxbillfo]

@@gladiatorstribe this is another Greek word to descibe it by the way!

[@gladiatorstribe]

@@zxbillfo 😮🤭

[@elliottkim6908]

If I had to guess the glossiness is an extra coat that prevents paint chipping like every wilson racket.

[@gladiatorstribe]

It's definitely more durable but usually those players who get these rackets have more than one, way more than one and they don't get them to the chipping stage. Unlike the normal players like us who give the rackets more beating because we have a limited amount of them 😂

[@kevo82]

White shoes black socks! Classy guy 😅

[@fluffy_skye]

I heard it’s because glossy looks better on TV.

[@gladiatorstribe]

Maybe 🤔🥴😂

[@joselitoaquino3207]

I had so much fun watching your videos more power..

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thank you so much! Really appreciate your awesome feetback!

[@robertkalenderov7172]

Very good video. By the way, i think only Yonex racquets are the same quality as with the one in the Pros ( excluding any personal modifications)

[@gladiatorstribe]

In terms of quality Yonex rackets are definitely up there!

[@SolowSports]

Glossy rackets are rumored to give more racket head speed (something Michael Chang always pushed us to create in his rackets). You have a H22 Pro Stock frame. That is the "part number" for the raw frame template. That starting point of H22 then can go to any weight, balance, swing weight, string pattern, length, and more. Very cool review, but essentially you are comparing one person's setup of the pro stock racket against the retail version. Keep the videos coming :)))

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thanks for your review of the video, appreciate it! Will do!!

[@HUHFLIMS]

do a cheap vs expensive tennis rackets

[@gladiatorstribe]

😂😂😂

[@twinwankel]

Wow is Arig experimenting with an one-handed backhand? Looks great. He should convert, cos he won a higher percentage of points using it. Plus it's easier on your back. Thanks for the advice.

[@gladiatorstribe]

He's not experimenting with one handed, he's experimenting with two handed OH is his natural shot 😂😂

[@twinwankel]

@@gladiatorstribe How come I always see him using a two-hander?

[@gladiatorstribe]

@@twinwankel That was a joke 😂 Usually plays two handed but prefers one handed any day.

[@twinwankel]

@@gladiatorstribe Thanks for clearing that up. Always a prankster.

[@gladiatorstribe]

@@twinwankel 😉🎾

[@ssportslivetvstreaming]

The Headsize and sweetspot seems bigger on the H22, its that true?

[@Bambotb]

Sick video but pro stock is not 600...on websote it's 250...and max 400

[@johnrb9397]

Yeah they make slight confusion between blade pro and ProStock H22's. Both H22 molds 🤗

[@Mewborne89]

Pro stock is absolutely 400-1000 dollars. The Blade Pro is an H22 mold but what the frame has on the inside is not anywhere as nice as a real pro-stock and it’s stiffer.. When you see the Blade Pro on Wilson website it’s a prostock mold (H22) minus the top of the line filling. A real H22 you find on certain websites or on EBay are top of the line racquets that absolutely go for $400-1000.

[@johnrb9397]

@@Mewborne89 what? Inside filling.. have you seen the cross section of either 22's? The blade pro was made stiffer to give it more free power that's all. Have YOU played with both...

[@Mewborne89]

@@johnrb9397 I’ve owned multiple of the Blade Pro’s when they were my racquets of choice and I’ve played with real H22’s and tons of other prostock racquets. Even Tennisnerd addresses the Blade Pro being filled with something different compared to the real H22’s, that’s why there’s a huge price difference. You seriously think Wilson just wants to sell some H22’s for 250 and others for 600? Lol

[@johnrb9397]

@@Mewborne89 oh you heard from Tennisnerd.. hmmm okay. At the same time please look up Principals of Supply and Demand, to explain the $600 asking price for ProStocks.. with their special fillings 🤣

[@2911Daan]

Are you switching to the Ezone? And why ;) just wondering.

[@gladiatorstribe]

Nope, not switching to the Ezone yet 🥴 Not the best time for me to switch right now and I'm pretty happy with my current frame. Will see in the nearest future though.

[@GragPro]

Where can we buy pro stock?

[@TimTheMusicMan]

Where do you buy pro stock rackets ? They aren't available online ?

[@gladiatorstribe]

Yes, they're. That's one of the few places where you can get them 😂😂

[@TennisEva]

11:51, is this the best Gladiators shot ever?

[@gladiatorstribe]

Hahahhaha definitely among the best ones!

[@jesoby]

Pros of course are tied to one sponsor. Amateurs have choice of anything so can find a perfect frame without needing to modify.

[@fredhe2859]

think its just to make em shinier on tv

[@nathanmiller6051]

What is this horse sh*t if I'm playing with a racquet it's a Pro racquet!! 🤥 😂😂

[@gladiatorstribe]

That's the only right way to think about it 😂😂😂

[@nathanmiller6051]

@@gladiatorstribe 😅👍

[@AZdaJa]

well..in my collection I have .pt57ax4 (Paolo Lorenci, Charly Berlocq xl x2, Tipsarevic demo pt57a painted in TF) tgk 231.3 (Dodig), tgt312.1 (Ciilic) h22...so, i know a bit about prostock racquets...and...too heavy (all of them are about 350+ strung), SW too high (Berlock "Gladiator" is 366 SW), unforgiving, asking for footwork, preparation, strenght...during honeymoon period, everything seems... honeymoonish...then, if u dont play 6 hr a day, everyday, u start feeling your inadequacies... We are not pros, we cant use prostocks. Imagine wanting to commute every day on a desmosedici...

[@gladiatorstribe]

Hahahah I totally see your point!

[@gladiatorstribe]

Also, that's an impressive collection you got!

[@AZdaJa]

@@gladiatorstribe Thanks, there is a circle of madmen here, my fellow nerds have a couple of Musetti pt342, one Lajovic juice 96, Troicki Yonex, several other pt57s....pair of Fritz Radicals, Kecmanovic Dunlop, Tipsarevic TFight 325 vo2max....I wanted to buy Djokovic pt113b but the guy wants 5k eur for it, and he got ot for free...small country and we kinda have some access to domestic ATP players ....but as I said...we are all too old to use them effectively. One question is it Blade pro stock or H22? It looks more like h22 than Blade?

[@kevinle5460]

keep it up guys!

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thank you! Will do!

[@ivanpalaca6230]

Where are the other guys? There used to be 4 of you . You both really are best friends huh?

[@gladiatorstribe]

It's just the two of us left mainly. You might see Nikita appear in some future videos but it's just is two now 🤭

[@ivanpalaca6230]

@@gladiatorstribe why so personal reasons?

[@gladiatorstribe]

@@ivanpalaca6230 Partially, yes

[@ivanpalaca6230]

@@gladiatorstribe hope you guys can make it up and grow your channel i love your videos

[@gladiatorstribe]

@@ivanpalaca6230 Thank you very much! Always appreciate your support!

[@typouny]

on this vidéo : u have a commercial blade. ok. but u haven't prostock blade. U have H22

[@Doty6String]

Um......you guys can play for real, great tennis!

[@gladiatorstribe]

Thank you very much!!

[@charlesfaure1189]

The biggest takeaway for the average player? Pro endorsements mean NOTHING. DON'T buy a racket because you think a pro is using it, because they almost always aren't. The companies take measures in the small print to avoid getting in trouble for outright fraud, but it's a con all the same. On the other hand, the average player shouldn't be using prostock/prospec rackets anyway--too heavy, too unforgiving, etc. The common rackets are a cheaper and better choice.

[@gladiatorstribe]

Ooff that was rough but mostly is true. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

[@HonkyMonky]

The glossy finish looks better on television too, it is more shiny and attractive to the eye

[@gladiatorstribe]

Yep, wb the Pro Staff though?

[@HonkyMonky]

@@gladiatorstribe What do you mean by "wb"? sorry i'm french XD

[@paulsteezo1772]

GLOSSY LOOKS BETTER ON T.V.!!!

[@gladiatorstribe]

😮🤭