GmanLives' Doom Unity Review (old)

[@DoomKid]

Hey people, thank you for all the love I’ve gotten on this video, but please don’t bother GmanLives about this anymore. It’s old news, I think he gets the picture (and even if not it’s not worth bothering him over). Thanks again to all of you for the views and support, it means a lot!

[@mrbri6463]

It's so weird this is used as a diss since you're completly being fair in this vid.

[@shunandromeda4767]

He’s an awsome reviewer but as soon he’s talking about doom he’s not partial...

[@nieildilsonsouza4747]

I'm just here for the history.

[@christopherthibeault7502]

Recently, some jackass started puking up blood about Brutal Doom in the same contrarian style that GManLives has engendered (but not founded) in the video that he has since deleted. Martinoz made a rebuttal: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWPSo5KJop5jnLM I also recommended your video about Vanilla Doom to that guy who Martinoz offered a rebuttal to. He's young and very, very stupid, so be polite. I know you don't play Brutal Doom all that much, but the complaints can be mitigated by how Sgt. Mark IV had remedied the mod over the years.

[@DoomKid]

@NeverGr4dyVHS STUDIOS FatShotgunner from 150skins.wad, originally from Skulltag

[@generalroasterock8114]

“Ultra-Violence is the ideal way to play Doom” -The guy who wouldn’t play Sigil on anything but Ultra-Violence and then got mad when it was too hard

[@EpicTyphlosionTV]

And this is why I still haven't watched him in awhile

[@J0000OOOO]

I haven't seen a video of his in a long time but that definitely sounds like the most Gman thing ever to do.

[@BlazingOwnager]

Ultra Violence is the ideal way, though. Anything less is lame, even in Sigil.

[@Treblaine]

UV is the hardest enemy and item placement, it's there to give enough challenge on subsequent playthoughs when you've memorised the levels. HMP is supposed to be the mode to give the ideal challenge on a blind playthrough. The problem with making UV the appropriate challenge on a blind playthrough is where do you have to go after that? It destroys replay value.

[@BlazingOwnager]

@@Treblaine Destroys replay value? Of Doom? Are you serious? I don't even know how many thousands of run through I've done over the years. IF enemies were just slower and less damaging, it'd be fine. This is why most modern games don't mess with enemy placement in harder difficulties.

[@johndobersworth4224]

I always chuckle whenever I hear "something as simple as brutal doom"

[@SeekerLancer]

He's mistaking "common" for "simple." Just because the kids these days love Brutal Doom and use it all the time doesn't make it simple.

[@Leo-64DC27]

@@SeekerLancer a game isn't build within one day so technically Gman statement is just an "over exaggeration"

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

@@SeekerLancer Go easy on him, English isn't his first language and the Australian google translator is a bit of a joke.

[@MMMercia]

@@Kevin-jb2pv That's a good one lolololol

[@josephkeen7224]

I assume he meant “simple” in that you still need a copy of Doom to play BD, unlike mods that use all original assets (still stupid though).

[@dimples9746]

“Thy Flesh Consumed is the Ringo Starr of the Doom episodes” I mean he has a point. Thy Flesh Consumed gave me blisters on me fingers

[@DoomKid]

Good point!

[@cygnus_XI]

I still have the White Album on vinyl where he says that! :'D

[@SRGIProductions]

Civvie describes Thy Flesh Consumed as "jumping between fair challenge and occasional fun to COMPLETELY UNECESSARY CRUELTY"

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

Those first two levels are absolute Hell. Once you clear out the starting room in Perfect Hatred, though, it finally relaxes.

[@SRGIProductions]

@@VGamingJunkieVT Also what he said too. "It tries to be harder, but it also gives you tons of ammo"

[@DoomKid]

Damn, he straight up removed the original video. That was not my intention at all. I genuinely hope it was just because the video had wrong info and not because this was taken as an insult, I really wasn’t trying to do a put-down here, just pointing out mistakes with some light hearted ribbing!

[@ViperAcidZX]

Yikes...

[@handlessuck589]

Aww.. It's ok DoomMan.

[@christopherstathis4419]

The man isn't the best at taking constructive criticism. He'll usually respond with snark towards the person. He could dish it out,when mocking game reviewers getting stuff wrong,but cant handle it when it comes to his stuff.

[@christopherstathis4419]

@Jambus His fanbase is made up of alt-right/GG types. Which he doesn't seem to mind.

[@seanmurphy988]

he said on twitter that he didnt like he was spreading misinformation.

[@thatguyknownaswill8180]

When he said that Brutal Doom was simple, it made me think of the guy who made the 3DO port of Doom. He just thought you could drop a jpeg of the weapons in the game and the weapon would magically work.

[@TrollDecker]

You mean the guy who acquired the rights to do the port and left the actual developer, Rebecca Heinemann, to have to figure out the 3DO's architecture and somehow get the game working within a piss-small number of months? It was nothing short of a miracle that port was even running on the console, let alone playable, and Heinemann deserves a goddamn medal for her suffering.

[@thatguyknownaswill8180]

@@TrollDecker yeah that’s what I meant

[@shyguy85]

​@@TrollDeckerI'll never understand how mental illness is not only accepted but encouraged

[@henrynelson9301]

@@shyguy85human rights are pretty cool

[@sweetypuss]

@@henrynelson9301 what rights do you not have

[@HurricaineJr]

"The medkits have always had crosses on them" HOLD IT!

[@esmerylan]

Yeah, I was about to comment on how BFG Edition removed the crosses and the initial release of this port also used its red pill graphic. There's a lot wrong with the GMan review but this wasn't one of the mistakes.

[@rily8329]

@@esmerylan Yeah, The Red Cross complained that it was a war crime or somthing to use them

[@cannedbeverage7687]

@@rily8329 OMG my teacher once used a red pen to make a plus simbol which is basically a cross, he's now a war criminal too oh no oh fr*ck!

[@rily8329]

@@cannedbeverage7687 using the red cross on a white background is illegal as it's a protected symbol which is why it cant be used in videogames

@@rily8329 Really? That is such a weird nugget of infomration

[@tickleson8661]

Gmanlives seems to have a weird obsession proving that he's a real doom fan by dissing on people who don't play on ultra-violence and bashing people who use controllers yet doesn't seem to know much outside of his own realm of GZDoom. It's like as if he's trying to prove to himself that he is a true fan when there's nothing wrong with being a casual player. I really appreciate your chill approach to this video btw, very professional.

[@DoomKid]

Thanks!

[@Darek_B52]

I have nothing against ppl playing a game on any difficulty (I mean in terms of making reviews that is a bit of a different story) but yeah. I jokingly say it's the "gentlemen's way to play" (nod to civvie 11) but I'm not going to hate on anyone playing easy or normal.

[@Leo-64DC27]

Yeah that's why i would never considered myself a pro or fan of any type of gaming genres...even though I'm good at some and still learning on others

[@mugwump7049]

To be fair, the ultraviolence thing was started by id themselves. And for veteran players, even UV has become pretty easy nowadays, at least in the vanilla game. As for the gamepad, I first played Doom on PlayStation and it was great. However, when I bought my first PC 2 years later and discovered the joys of playing with a mouse, which allowed for *much* better movement and aiming accuracy, I very gladly never looked back. I understand the contempt PC players hold towards playing with a controller because it just sucks by comparison. Shitting on the poor console players who don't know better is not cool though.

[@audiosurfarchive]

Sourceport elitism is one of the most toxic elements of OG Doom community. If people get into Doom via GZ, and stick with it; then naturally itll become obvious that there are uses, preferences and gamefeel desires that other ports have. I pity the fool that invalidates someone's interest over a fucking sourceport choice. _I really like DoomRetro as of late: BTSX E2 played great._

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

The crosses on medkits thing is a reference to the fact that one of the more recent rereleases of the classic wads replaced the red cross symbols on the medkits with these weird little pill logos because the Red Cross organization decided that they were going to start suing the shit out of every video game developer who used "their trademark" on game health kits. So developers started replacing that symbol with a bunch of different things for a while, though I've started seeing red crosses in some new stuff, again, so I don't know if the Red Cross got slapped down in court or if companies have started licensing from them or what happened with all that. However some devs are still not going back to the red cross symbol either because they're still worried about lawsuits, don't want to pay licensing fees, or are just kind of giving the finger to the Red Cross. This seems to be Bethesda's route, so instead now Doomguy picks up boxes of medicinal marijuana to heal wounds (anyone who doesn't live in a state with legal medicinal/ recreational pot shops: green cross = reefer healing)

[@DoomKid]

lol, this makes me like green crosses just that little bit more.

[@cygnus_XI]

Just to add to this, but for people who don't know, it's actually against the Geneva Convention to misuse the red cross apparently. The argument that the Red Cross uses, direct from their website, is that having the symbol in a video game "distorts its meaning and its protective value for victims of conflict and the aid workers that assist them" somehow, and therefor they have to spend their valuable time harassing indie developers and other development companies from including a red shape in their game, as opposed to using that money and resources towards helping people and giving aid to victims of disasters and armed conflict. It's one of the reasons why I think the majority of international law is a joke and that it shouldn't be taken all too seriously.

[@Lugbzurg]

@@cygnus_XI So, that's more or less it. I've been wondering for a long time now how the heck anyone can claim legal ownership over a scarlet plus shape. I mean, Doom (2016) switched to blue plusses. It's the same shape, but a different color. No one should even be able to own this. I mean, can someone claim ownership over a purple square, a green Letter "E", or an orange Number "5"? No, of course not. I remember when I studied copyright, I was informed right up front that there is no legal precedent in being able to do such a thing, yet here's "The Red Cross" doing exactly that, which, as far as I can tell, is NOT legal. On another note, there's also the question about how any company can own the rights to Zorro when the character pre-dates copyright, and the original creator had nothing to do with this company. And don't get me started on the "Happy Birthday" song!

[@cygnus_XI]

@@Lugbzurg Typically we aren't allowed to copyright a shape, such as a circle or a triangle, so you're absolutely right. It has to be much more unique. But the red cross isn't technically protected by a copyright or trademark. But they can get away with protecting it because many countries have agreed to the Geneva Convention anyway. On the flip side, you can find numerous games that use the Red Cross and it never became an issue, and I've never heard of the Red Cross actually pursuing any legal action against developers, as the majority of them agree to removing it from their game. (The developers of Prison Architect have a good podcast where they talk about their in-depth experience with the Red Cross if you're interested.)

[@liamdell6319]

@@cygnus_XI On the topic of copyrighting shapes and letters etc. I'm pretty sure that Sony has copyrighted blue X's, red circle outlines, green triangle outlines and purple square outlines.

[@guynamederick]

Gman's videos really feel like they were just pushed out as soon as possible to be one of the first big game reviewers to make a review of something recent. His SIGIL review shows that, complaining about Ultra-Violence being hard (SHOCKER) and rushing through the levels instead of taking his time on some of them. Nice of you to correct this video's misinformation and be constructive about it!

[@Start3rPack]

If you ever get into the reviewing gig, that's how it is really. It's all about sucking the tit of a game company to get the game early to push out the review out. You get more clicks before anyone else, thus more money. It's all a fucking race and I fucking hate it.

[@guynamederick]

@@A_Stranger2256 Perhaps, not sure what though :P

[@user-yi5mt2df5q]

He recommended Wolfenstein Youngblood. To me, he has no credibility as a reviewer.

[@guynamederick]

@@user-yi5mt2df5q Okay so he likes that game, not exactly relevant. What is important is that if you are going to review a game, do not spread misinformation and be consistently incorrect over and over. The things are mentioned is what GmanLives has been doing with too many of his recent videos.

[@aardwolfismymiddlename988]

sigil is the plutonia of doom 1

[@daesplays8737]

"future generations won't forget that" Yeah, you wish. 20 years from now I can bet one testicle most people won't even know what Wolfenstein 3d looks like.

[@DoomKid]

Don’t make a bet you’re not willing to pay out 20 years from now!

[@daesplays8737]

@@DoomKid Hey, if it means future generations will still play masterpieces like Wolf3d, I think it is a price I'm willing to pay!

[@emilylefebvre646]

Keep in mind: People were crazy enough to get the uncensored game working on a GBC!

[@daesplays8737]

@@emilylefebvre646 The dev of that port kindda vanished tho, and that was a while ago, we talking future generations here, and considering the current generations haven't even seen a Dos prompt in their life well...

[@emilylefebvre646]

@@daesplays8737 I'd probably be lumped in with "that generation" considering the big shooters I grew up with were Halo and Half-Life, yet I still have clear memory of Wolf3D.

[@officialkidwizard]

DoomKid DESTROYS Gmanlives with FACTS and LORE

[@DinnerForkTongue]

DeStRoYs

[@noop9k]

MrFoxbody89 over a half of of wtfs is a nerdy nitpicking.

[@corvettez06usa]

With a lack of look up and down, Doom feels incredibly good on a modern controller. I've beaten it countless times with both methods and it really depends on where I want to sit. Playing Doom on TV from the couch is pretty damn awesome.

[@fish3443]

It is incredibly good on a controller. Definitely a thing doom player NEED to try at least once.

[@Lattamonsteri]

8:50 I think GmanLives is talking about how the medkits have pills in some versions (due to the same copyright issue with the Red Cross).

[@DoomKid]

Yep, the pills were way ugly. Glad it’s a cross again now, even though it’s green!

[@TheGameCenter]

Shouldn't really be a problem since you can just drop the original wads into it and have the red crosses

[@ZGURemixer]

We should all thank Dwars for that.

[@SRGIProductions]

@@DoomKid I recall a DOOMTuber named Dwars mentioning that as a suggestion in his source ports video a while back. The guy got me into Crispy Doom and DOOM Retro. Here's his channel link. He's got some good stuff: kzbin.info/door/pYnXdkqC3aMyeg8ZDdBKag

[@GentleHeretic]

I can't put my finger on why, but the music bit annoys me the most. Has he never screwed around with soundfonts? DOSBox settings? Anything?

[@SRGIProductions]

Yeah. NEVER use the default MIDI options.

[@ZGURemixer]

@@SRGIProductions They almost sound the same to me too.

[@SRGIProductions]

@@ZGURemixer Thankfully, GZDoom allows use of custom soundfonts without the need of a virtual synth of sorts.

[@ShatteringKatana]

Because it shows how hard he tries looking like the "OG Doomer", discrediting himself in the process. He might like the generic Windows midi version better, maybe that's just his taste, but the Unity port is factually the composer's intended sound.

[@SeekerLancer]

@@SRGIProductions There are some cool virtual synths out there though.

[@Reaching8]

I guess I found this video a bit late, but Gman has a history of doing this. The dude reviewed the re-release of BLOOD favourably initially as well. Took weird takes on Si6il as well.

[@rapappathepepper3996]

this dude actualy tough that GZdoom is fully vanilla style

[@pagb666]

Everyone here mentioning his rushed reviews, referring to his Sigil review... but no one mentioning his "Blood: Fresh Supply is Really Good" review. It's a vanilla Blood review, citing at the end that there wasn't anything wrong with Fresh Supply. Oh my... It took me 4 minutes of gameplay to notice more than half a dozen inaccuracies and feel ripped off. I commented saying that the port wasn't ok, the monsters didn't even behave the same. His answer? "I've played more Blood than you and the monsters behave the same" LOL.

[@DoomKid]

Wow, what an arrogant answer. Ah well, what can you do!

[@pagb666]

@@DoomKid What can I do? I Unsubscribed (and about time I did) xD

[@reallyhertv4566]

@@pagb666 I'm glad i found out he wasn't a man i initially thought he was. If we bring more evidence of him being like this we might make Doomkid more popular than him, and have actually good youtubers doing doom videos

[@pagb666]

@@reallyhertv4566 He's dead to me, which is a shame, I didn't know about his Doom unity review until today xD The man struggles with the "vanilla" concept a lot.

[@thedoominator]

Reminds me of his Project Warlock review when the game was released. He praised it so much yet when I bought it day one & played it, I've noticed so many problems, I ended up refunding it.

[@kaidenwoodman3903]

I know that recently this port added DeHacked support, which I think is kinda cool

[@majamystic256]

oh cool i didn't know that

[@Trimint123]

Though, it only works with WAD that has DeHacked inside it, not load separately. Still, it's a welcome addition.

[@ChawedMirthPrattEnterprise]

i stopped taking him seriously when he suggested that it should support brutal doom. this guy really doesn't know what he's talking about. edit: for everyone replying "whats wrong with having mod support?"; brutal doom uses specific coding programs which are native to gzdoom and only gzdoom, which is why you cant find brutal doom on other ports like prboom. however gman isnt very intellectually inclined when it comes to doom so he has no idea about that, so saying that brutal doom should be in the new port is basically saying "i want you to redo your entire engine using a public property and go through a ton of legal business in order to have this one specific mod on your new port". its a complete misunderstand of how gzdoom modding and compatibility works. also, the new port does have dehacked support, so you can load vanilla mods. i recommend valiant, D4V and rekkr if youre interested. tldr; gman doesnt understand how gzdoom works and thinks that its just another port.

[@consumidorcualquiera238]

Well... It would be cool if had mod support so... I'm a vanilla player and everything that use the engine is cool for me so why not?

[@ZGURemixer]

There's a DeHacked port of Brutal Doom too. It's mainly just weapon skins and the way they handle, but it seems like literally no one else knows about it.

[@Valkyries733]

He’s saying a game should have mod support and you’re criticizing him for that because he mentioned brutal doom?

[@noop9k]

Valkyries733 I it kind of silly to demand Brutal Doom because of how much work that would need.

[@Valkyries733]

@@noop9k Yeah, should probably demand brutal doom from the creator of brutal doom, not ID. lol

[@doomdoomerson6524]

Been meaning to replace this jaded doomer for a while now... That review was the last straw. Ty for the review review.

[@valentinom.4292]

See Civvie instead

[@pixeldeath5846]

I was gonna' say just watch Civvie 11 but someone beat me to it. Civvie > Gman in every way possible.

[@SRGIProductions]

@@pixeldeath5846 #FreeCivvie

[@valletas]

@@pixeldeath5846 mtpain27

[@nftscreenshotter6436]

Decino is quality, that guy teaches himself about doom inside and out, straight from the game's code. If you want a true doomer, watch Decino. (also Civvie is likeable as fuck so yeah him too)

[@DarkQuill]

Can just leave the title as "Everything wrong with GmanLives" and would still be accurate. Thank you for pointing out the SC55 soundfont though, a lot of people don't have the ears for it.

[@aardwolfismymiddlename988]

i knew the music sounded better

[@trisar2146]

As soon as I heard the Unity port's music, I immediately thought, "Wait, that's the ORIGINAL original music--the original as recorded by Bobby Prince music, not the approximated MIDI format."

[@casedistorted]

I loved that part of this video. People who can educate me about the different midi players and sound fonts I find fascinating since it can make the games music sound completely different. I grew up on the 32x version's music btw..

[@asais1024]

Wait it's a soundfont not actual recordings from an SC-55? LAME

[@The_Wandering_Nerd]

I still remember playing Doom in a postcard-sized window on my 486 with Adlib music and PC speaker sound effects so both the Unity and GZDoom soundtracks sound great to me

[@trevorcorbin553]

Thank you for making me feel okay for playing on Hurt me Plenty

[@abhinandanil7775]

I play on Too Young to Die sometimes, and I still feel happy about it. Don't let someone else dictate the way you must play Doom, or any videogame for that matter. 👍👍👍

[@anonanonymous9670]

There's nothing wrong with playing on Hurt Me Plenty It's the normal difficulty which is what most people (probably) play Doom on

[@rulerofroombas1443]

Lol I love how down to earth you are. No over the top reactions, no exaggerations, just a guy talking casually.

[@SleepingCocoon]

the guy's attitude has always rubbed me the wrong way. talks a lot of git gud no scrubs talk but has never seemed knowledgeable enough to walk the walk. could really stand to be more humble. being open to being wrong is how you learn and have fantastic new experiences.

[@Leo-64DC27]

That's kinda a problem bout current gen of kids..not saying all are like that but you get the idea

[@noop9k]

This happens to everyone after a while. Power/fame turns people into shit. Demanding perfection is a sign of immaturity.

[@nagibrich1270]

@@Leo-64DC27 bro he is in his 30s

[@Leo-64DC27]

@@nagibrich1270 yeah but i was referring to as in current gen of kids not on Gman btw

[@Nivec217]

@@noop9k I think this is true in GMan's case since he did provide more calm and constructive reviews before blowing up, but now it's a bit of a mess and he doesn't sound as calm anymore, more like a whining kid imo.

[@scrapzarchive]

This isn't the only wack thing gman has said. He claimed that spider masterminds were not in the ps1 version of doom, which is false since you fight 2 at the end of doom 2 instead of the icon of sin.

[@LoserHands]

Dude, Doom actually sounds like _the_ shooter to play with a controller! Also I watched the artist of Shrine 2, which gman shows in his video, _play_ _his_ _own_ _game_ _using_ _the_ _scroll_ _wheel_ _to_ _swap_ _guns!_

[@cacomeat7385]

Doom is the only fps i can enjoy with a touch screen, you can aim and fire with one thumb really well with the right settings in Delta Touch.

[@classicdoomguy3356]

@@cacomeat7385 I bind shoot and open to the volume buttons on my phone , I feel like it makes it a bit better . I suggest trying it

[@audiosurfarchive]

@@cacomeat7385 MY NIQQA. Never seen anyone else recommend Delta Touch. I love playing Hellshots Golf on the go

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

DualShock 4 with touch pad? EFF YES.

[@valletas]

Most of my vanilla sp doom was on a psp

[@cannedbeverage7687]

"If you use a controller you're dead to me" isn't really a WTF point IMO, because "you're dead to me" is pretty much a running gag on Gggman's channel. The last WTF point was also an obvious joke (but I think you realized that as you did put the WTF counter to infinity).

[@SRGIProductions]

Now if only there was a "Positive Infinity" option.

[@nftscreenshotter6436]

it kind of is a "wtf" point. I think the "running gag" thing is just an excuse for gman to say things he really feels, and when it's controversial, it's suddenly "oh it's a joke!" That's a very common method of deflecting criticism, and boy does gman love to deflect criticism. I once left a politely critical comment on his bioshock review (I checked, he removed it), and he replied with two words. "Stay mad." Gman is an actual manchild that throws a fit when someone doesn't agree with him.

[@cannedbeverage7687]

@@nftscreenshotter6436 Ok I didn't know that, I rarely leave comments on his videos.

[@Bazztoner]

Zan (Hedon-dev) said that GZDoom has no original code from Carmack, so GZDoom is not even the original engine, it's a new one. When people say that IDTech 1 is really flexible and moddable most of the time they talk about GZDoom.

[@jacknapier2089]

Have nothing against the guy. In fact I would say he's one of my references to getting into Doom and Quake1. Just misinformed said things, opinions that require some elaboration. End of the day, have a beer say fuck it, go bowling. There is enough misery and arguing in the real world, rather have fun and learning.

[@mugwump7049]

Mr. Icarus and Civvie are waaaaay better references. And they're also funnier. Gman's bullshit Sigil video completely missed the mark. His saving grace is that he occasionally unearths some pretty obscure games.

[@josephkeen7224]

I’ve watched a lot of Gmanlives content, and while I enjoy his work I’m surprised there aren’t more people responding to his videos. For example, in his review of a game called Rake he says that the Unity engine is an unstable mess, even though a large majority of indie games (including popular ones like inside I believe) are made with it, and the poorly optimized ones are usually asset flips looking for a quick buck. Another thing is that he complained that it was too linear (which was a problem due to it being a freerunning game), but he criticized Mirrors Edge Catalyst for being open world.

[@AlexeiVoronin]

With all due respect to GmanLives and his work... he is not a Doomer. He plays Doom, no doubt about it, but in his heart - he is not a Doomer.

[@NinjaRunningWild]

If you took a drink every time Gman was wrong or inaccurate about something, you'd die of alcohol poisoning.

[@sephirothchild]

The algorithm sure does like to promote old content, huh? Anyways, GmanLives usually rubs me the wrong way when he reviews anything Doom related. A quick story: I forget if it was Skull tag or Zdamon but, one of my fondest memories of Doom multiplayer was where we had this huge map set and a bunch of players co-op'd this together. Like it was so funny remembering shooting at this big boss with a bunch of people while there was a spongebob song being played in the background. I spent hours going through all the maps and I remember I got to a point where we hit the level that I first joined on. I was like, "It's been fun! I'm going to bed!" Man, I'd do anything to relive that moment again. Wish I knew what mapset and what server that was. Was best multiplayer fun I had in my life.

[@DoomKid]

Good old memories of those classic Skulltag/ZD days!

[@EmApex]

I'm not even that hardcore into Doom and his constant comparisons to GZDoom made me want to put my head through a wall. Anyone who has done even the slightest bit of looking into source ports knows that GZDoom is almost completely different from the original engine

[@skraegorn7317]

The best part of all of GZDoom’s fancy graphics and compatibility options is that they can be turned off to make the game feel like Vanilla. Honestly he would’ve been better served to compare this port to something like Crispy Doom.

[@zguthethird]

Or PRBoom+ and the Eternity Engine.

[@casedistorted]

I love the Doom community like Decino and stuffs. Everyone knows their shit so damn well, Doom is one of the most beloved games of all time. I've always enjoyed GGGmanlives since I've watched his videos since the start of his channel, but it seems he has kind of lost his passion and has that youtuber ego thing going on now. Also love this video, very matter of fact like 'yeah no, disagree, yknow shit happens' lol My only gripe with this port was no achievements on Steam. Doom could use some since that's one of the few reasons to have things on Steam specifically I think. Honestly, when GMan makes a video it just seems like he doesn't do any f'ing research before putting them out. He essentially is a 'video journalist/reviewer' that doesn't fact check their work, and makes shitty 3rd grader jokes. I like some of his jokes but most of them are the same f'ing thing now going on years. I really like PrBoom+

[@IDrinkLava]

also patrician taste in MIDIs my man

[@EmmyTee]

It's pretty simple: GmanLives is a zoomer. Stale meme aside, his complaints and comments are literally the ones a casual player would make who never really interacted with Doom before. His complaints about GZDoom's options are a perfect illustration of that, it would indeed seem complicated if you have no idea how Doom works.

[@Daftanemone]

He’s not even a zoomer. He’s in his early 30s. Dude says he’s a zoomer because he would die of self hatred to admit he’s a millennial

[@abd-qadirgilani8871]

This Zoomer doesn't behave like GManLives on her worst day. Keep him away from us younglings you can have him lol.

[@legacyofvrak]

I get your reference, lemme get that straight But GmanLives is pretty much 30 years old or more, and most zoomers can take criticism unlike this guy lol

[@Mykulveli]

Gzdoom would seem like rocket science if you didn't know what resolution meant...

[@bloodgroundgaming7871]

The only thing I kinda agree with him about is them removing the swastikas and other details from the wolfenstein level. If they are going to censor things like that I'd prefer they simply make two versions of the game and simply release the one with no changes here in the US.

[@matthewrease2376]

"Something simple like Brutal DOOM" my 2009 laptop that I tried to run that mod on is crying from the trauma

[@majamystic256]

I understand why ZDoom/GZDoom stuff would be hard to add the official port, but i think they should add Boom and MBF stuff though since alot of source ports have Boom compatibility nowadays

[@nameless_outlander]

That would require implementing Boom code, which in turn will force the Unity engine code to be opened to the public, not something that Bethesda is willing to do yet.

[@Keldor314]

It's mostly the level of complexity. If you look at GZDoom closely, you'll find it supports multiple different ways of scripting pioneered by multiple other engines, and pulled in from other games using the Doom engine (which GZDoom can also run), but with other differences under the hood, like Hexen and Strife. It's a gigantic kitchen sink. GPL-wise, Bethesda would probably be in the clear reimplementing Boom features as long as they didn't copy any of the actual original source code from Boom. From this perspective, the Boom feature list is like a printed specification. This is much the same as why emulators are legal, despite the manufacturers not licensing out their hardware at all.

[@IDrinkLava]

SIGIL_COMPAT_GMAN.WAD

[@SynthLizard8]

I think I'd rather play on a controller rather then a keyboard only.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

In my opinion, what they should have done to censor the Nazi Swastikas in Map 31 and Map 32 is to turn it into that altered shape that Romero turned that Swastika to in E1M4 back when it was updated.

[@dibberz-v1z]

I agree or at least replace them with the typical imagery used in german versions of ww2 games

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

The GBA Version replaced them with the eagle symbol from RTCW.

[@civarello7751]

I haven´t read ALL of the comments, so maybe this was already mentioned (or a couple of times...): Classic DooM and DooM 2 have been un-banned in Germany for 9 years at this point.....but only the German Version, with the altered Secret Level. The main-reason why Classic DooM and DooM 2 were banned back in ´93/´94 wasn´t the Swastika (DooM 1 was banned as well), but because of the violence. Means DooM II was banned in ´94 even WITH the altered level. Then some time ago we had some changes here in Germany regarding Nazi-Symbols/Nazi-stuff in Games.......so the new Wolfenstein-games for example can be bought in Germany without alterations....Wolf 3D was un-banned as well, so the original Version of the Secret Levels shouldn´t be a problem anymore in Germany.

[@StabYourBrain]

And yet the german steam story won't let me buy Return to Castle Wolfenstein :c But that's no big news because the german steam store has always been slow as shit.. they even still sell the cut version of Resident Evil 4 which has been taken of index for years now.

[@civarello7751]

@@StabYourBrain Beim deutschen Vertreter von Good Old Games gibt es Return to Castle Wolfenstein auch nicht zu kaufen. Das liegt daran dass der Publisher RtCW eben nicht für eine neue Einstufung in Deutschland vorgelegt hat. Der Publisher selber muss tätig werden.... wenn er denn möchte dass RtCW zeitnah wieder in Deutschland kaufbar sein soll. Wenn ich mich recht erinnere gibt es aber eine Frist von 25 Jahren, nach der Medien auf dem Index automatisch neu bewertet werden müssen. Im Falle von RtCW also im Jahr 2026........(falls der Publisher nicht vorher selber tätig wird). Bei Resi 4 ist der Publisher selber verantwortlich den deutschen Kunden die Uncut-Version zugänglich zu machen. Allerdings scheint die Version bei Steam mittlerweile Uncut zu sein; selbst wenn im Store immer noch "Low Violence" Version steht. Im Steam-Forum zu Resi 4 haben seit 2016 zig Leute bestätigt dass die ehemals geschnittenen Sachen (Mercenaries, Assignment Ada) auch in der deutschen Version enthalten sind. Aber zur Not gibt ja genug US-Keys für zb. Resi 4 im Netz zu kaufen. Die lassen sich auch in Deutschland aktivieren. English: On the german Good Old Games-Storefront RtCW can´t be bought either. That´s because Return to Castle Wolfenstein wasn´t re-evaluated. And that is something that the Publisher must do......take the game and let it be re-certified by the appropriate authority.....if they want the game to be sold in Germany again at this point. But if I remember correctly there is a deadline of 25 years; after that any media on the Index has to be re-evaluated automatically. Regarding Resi 4.....here again it is the Publishers turn .......Capcom has to unlock the Uncut Version of Resident Evil 4 for german customers. But it seems that the Version of Resi 4 on Steam in Germany actually IS Uncut; even if the Storepage still says "Low Violence". Several people on the Steam-Forum have pointed out that the once missing parts (Mercenaries, Assignment Ada) are actually included. But if push comes to shove there are enough keys for a non-german-Version of Resident Evil 4 available on the Net; which can be activated in Germany as well.

[@StabYourBrain]

@@civarello7751 Ich hab' ja immernoch die Retail fassung von RtCW.. aber in Steam wäre es ja schon 'nen Ticken bequemer :D

[@mulliganwizard9068]

Loved how you called out the gatekeeping. Also got a kick out of how he wanted the original doom engine running gzdoom mods :P

[@pixeldeath5846]

There's a reason why... "The Virgin GmanLives VS The Chad Civvie11" meme exists.

[@mostverticalproductions4808]

In the FGC, many people talk about how playing on pad or keyboard is cheating or not the true way to play. Kind of amazed that exists in Doom communities too. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of enjoying video games, shouldn't they be about the experience you have with the game with whatever method you're comfortable with?

[@valletas]

I mean some games do broke with it but that has been considered a bad practice for ages Street fighter 2 for example using a keyboard you can trow sonic booms while moving foward but those kind of things are really rare

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

Gatekeeping is never good, if the game allows you to play however you want, like doom in this case, there's absolutely no problem.

[@valletas]

@@xX_Lol6_Xx oh wait wtf i know you from doomworld

[@toiletbowl04]

Everyone is wrong you have to play with a steering wheel

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

@@toiletbowl04 lmao

[@Slimurgical]

You seem like a pretty chill dude, and I HAVE been looking for more Doom youtubers to boot. Time to sub C:

[@DoomKid]

Cheers!

[@iwa_ro]

Love your calm attitude!

[@DoomKid]

Cheers!

[@SharonisCarin321]

I subbed! I grew up with Doom 64 and I want to try the unity Port and all add-ons. I did the math and 387 total levels sounds great me!

[@DoomKid]

Thanks!

[@casual_villain]

Man did not just do Ringo like that…

[@EmeraldCoasttt]

As someone working on a brutal doom fork, BD is the most overcomplicated mess of a wad out there, "simple" LMFAO

[@zguthethird]

If you want a simpler mod to base your creation off of, try BDLite too, It's open-source.

[@zguthethird]

Good luck with your fork, too. I might not be a dev myself, but I'd love to play it when it's released!

[@KamiJoJo]

6:52 Pretty sure the original release in 1993 didn't even have sound or message display for secrets so this is a major change ZDoom added, much like the smug laughter taunt of Doomguy in Skulltag.

[@starmantheblaziken1453]

Does Odamex even have a secret sound effect played in the game? Because I do not seem to hear it when passing a secret sector.

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

@@starmantheblaziken1453 Hello, I think that the latest (0.9.0) has one. Edit: It does

[@StuffyJunk]

a little off topic but i really miss those skulltag player skins. Kinda curious why they never carried them over to Zandronum

[@DoomKid]

Zandronum stripped away all the custom Skulltag content, but you can actually get pretty much all of it back using Zandronum_Content_Beta01, ZandroSkins and 150skins, it should all run in Zandro just fine and give you a true Skulltag feel. If you need help just let me know

[@DuckReconMajor]

Glad to get another video from you, sorry you had to watch a gman video to do it! lol jk im sure his videos are fine, reading some of the comments on his video i think even his fans are telling him this was poorly researched. i actually kinda feel bad based on the "don't have a doomworld profile link in your twitter bio" as it seems he made this in defense of classic fans and now they're all after him lol. If i'm right on that I appreciate his sentiment at least.

[@dangerjoe8911]

Pleaee read: footnote on german videogame censorship: The well-known harsh german videogame censorship stems from the late 70s/early 80s, back when videogames first became a thing and was tied directly to the popularity of slasher movies. As germany had no proper age-restriction system and parents and educators alike started complaining, the BPjM (Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefärdende Medien/ Federal control agency for youth-endangering media), which already had existed since 1954 but mosty was in charge of keeping childrens literature free of violence, got expanded, so they also started looking at videogames. And because videogames, of course, were games and thusly automatically "for kids", the hammer got put down hard, and every second game got "Indexed", e.g. taken out of circulations. The censorship was very harsh, as the legislation behind it was unrevised since the early days of the west german state. If the helicopter of your Atari 2600 Game could drop bombs, your game got indexed for "waging an offensive war". Any depiction of violence was concidered unsuitable for the percieved target audience and all went to hell. In 1994, the USK (Unterhaltungssofware Selbstkontrolle/Entertainmentsoftware selfregulation, which is in charge of age restricition) was founded of revised principles. Now, violence could be censored instead of outright banned (it should be noted that censored versions of games for release in germany where a thing before the USK was founded), but there still was no way to get away with nazi imagery, as per jurisdiction, only educational works and works of art were allowed to show these. Since that jurisdiction stems from the 50s, videogames were not classified as art as they barely existed. Since 2012 or something, they got quite more liberal though, and violence is barely censored anymore, nor do games still get indexed (I think the last one I am aware of was "Hatred") and already indexed games are taken from the index.. Also, since a year or two, videogames are conciderred as pieces of art and are allowed to show swastikas, so that future releases of Wolfenstein wont need any censorship

[@DoomKid]

Thank you very much for this information, really interesting stuff!

[@dangerjoe8911]

@@DoomKid Glad to help. Sorry for typos btw, wrote it in the middle of the night and on mobile...

[@dangerjoe8911]

@@DoomKid Also a minor correction: Videogames indeed do get indexed, but it only means that the "media is not allowed to be shown to children or youths". So no public/physical sales whatsoever. In our day and age, where games are mostly sold digitally, it has barely any meaning although it is illegal to show these games (and movies, for that matter) to children and youths.

[@HardwareFahrrad]

That's why I am ashamed to be a German citizen.

[@TheBlackDeath3]

I appreciate your level-headed, thoughtful, and meme-free perspective. Subscribed.

[@DoomKid]

Thanks!

[@dsc5595]

Great video Kid! You show how much popularity means nothing in regards to actual content!

[@JustAthel]

Unrelated but wow, hearing there's an online community over on ZDaemon is kind of reassuring, all we got on Zandronum is CCBM and rarely Shotgun Frenzy. I oughtta check it out.

[@alienpolygon6926]

Zdaemon has been around for quite some time, and there's almost always CTF going on

[@valletas]

Coop is also popular on zandronum but few people play deathmatch and i rarely see people playing ctf

[@Manquant]

ZDaemon is the only source port I play online. Everyone just does Coop and whatever else on Zan. I rarely see CTF or there's scrims/private lobbies going so I can't jump in on the fun.

[@archvile4813]

Achievements? ✅ Mod support? ✅ Multiplayer? ✅ KEX delivers!

[@DoomKid]

It really is a leap up from past offerings!!

[@WebGame2k]

My dads laptop cant run unity games, i just use ZDoom

[@Kousaburo]

"If I know *of* something I therefore know all *about* it." - GmanLives

[@ZGURemixer]

8:30 Someone actually uploaded that fart remix of E1M1 under the title of "At Doom's Gate - 32x Version" or something along those lines. Gman could've actually fell for it.

[@ZGURemixer]

Proof: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3iVeap-Zq-ed6s

[@Focalors21]

7:19 The snare in gzdoom has less release than the Unity one. Percussion in general is more underwhelming than the Unity one. Bass has too much volume, true. gzdoom seems to lack reverb for the instruments, which also makes the music sound dry, unlike in Unity. Edit: If you want to play gzdoom with the SC-55 songs, use an SC-55 music pack sc55.duke4.net/ Even if you don't, I think you can tweak the music settings to make the songs less underwhelming regardless of the sf2.

[@Focalors21]

3:45 Also, gzdoom offers many languages besided English, so the only thing to worry about is the amount of stuff you can tweak, and even then, it's not exactly complicated. It's not rocket science, that's for sure. 9:35 While that makes sense in Germany, it doesn't in the rest of the world because the new Wolfenstein games outside of Germany could show the Nazi symbol and Hitler's name and look.

[@DJ-ve6yf]

I have no idea why GmanLives deleted his original video, I enjoyed both his and your video. Commentary that is different then your views or opinions should be welcomed. I kinda feel like GmanLives is being a little bit on the petty side here. Note, I am not trying to start a flame war, I am just stating my opinion. Great videos from both!

[@ViperAcidZX]

Well when I brought up the criticism on Gman's video on twitter, he told me "Go away". Yeah, tower of respect he is.

[@zakazany1945]

@@ViperAcidZX He is that kind of person that want to say whatever crosses his mind, but god forbid being criticized or presented with facts that prove he is wrong

[@alphachestnut]

@@ViperAcidZX yeah I just found the tweet, that was a pretty shit reply. "go away dude"

[@Keldor314]

The thing about the medkits with crosses on them does have some history. Basically, the Red Cross organization got upset with games for using the red cross symbol all over the place, and since they created the symbol as their trademark in the first place, were well within their rights to ask others to stop using it. In fact, they probably had a legal obligation to do so in order to keep owning the trademark under US copyright law - if you allow just anyone to use it whenever they want, you've waived your right to use it as an exclusive trademark. In any case, this meant that the versions of Doom and Doom 2 shipped with Doom 3 BFG and later as standalone releases had red dashes, and later red pill symbols on their medkits. So the in the Unity release, they reintroduced the cross, though they made it green to avoid the original trademark issue. That's what GManLives was referring to.

[@luigitrollface]

come on, if quake and doom 64 got achievements with their remaster, why cant classic doom have them

[@avtomatkalashnikova1947]

For me, Gman might be right about the "Ultra-Violence is the ideal way to play Doom" part. The difficulty used the full amount of enemies placed on the map and it's probably the difficulty ID mean us to play once we got hold of how the game plays, kinda just like how they said in Quake's manual. I actually played on I'm Too Young to Die since I've first played Doom around 2016, then Hurt Me Plenty and eventually I decided to settle on UV since then once I finally got the hang of the game's mechanics, weapons and enemies.

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

Yeah, but, the problem is that, as most doomers always play on UV, people think that's the ideal or best way to play, there's nothing wrong with playing on lower skills, especially if it's your first playthrough.

[@Opanker_]

@@xX_Lol6_Xx Just an opinon, but I feel like Doom 1 and 2 just feel empty on HNTR and ITYTD, this doesn't really apply to TNT and plutonia though

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

@@Opanker_ Actually yes, they do feel empty, I assume that's the point of removing the enemies, to make the game more manageable for noobies so they have a better time. I always play on medium cuz I want the game to be action packed but at the same time I don't want high tier enemies in the second room of the level (e.g. sunlust)

[@RetroNutcase]

RE: Medkits. They did have crosses removed at one point and replaced with Pill Icons. See the BFG Edition of Doom 3, which uses the 360 ports of Doom 1 and 2.

[@VOIDSenseMusic]

The G in GmanLives stands for Gatekeeping.

[@DoomKid]

I hope comments like his ones about controller players and UV are just jokes, gatekeeping Doom seems lame to me..

[@eltiolavara9]

@@DoomKid same

[@icyjiub2228]

When Gman started out he was a lot more chill. Then he got the /v/ audience circa 2014 and is still acting like a shitposter. There's boomer, and then there's "why the fuck are you acting like gamergate is still in the news you fucking loser."

[@hanchiman]

Never liked Gman, as he kind of give off a High horse vibe to me. Personally the best FPS reviewer who know his stuff is Civvie, damn he even appears as a cameo in the upcoming Postal 4

[@Shotgun2Face94]

#freecivvie Yeah, I moved away from Gman to Civvie 11. I remember it was the Gman's Blood Fresh Supply review that I discovered Civvie 11 in someone's comment. I don't remember what the comment was but it did introduce me to Boomer Shooter Civvie. Thanks to Civvie, I got into PC gaming and played Blood, Postal, Quake, classic Doom, Shadow Warrior, Masters of Doom book, "It's Raw!", Beetlejuice, Cancer Mouse, and AI gone rouge: John Carmack. Civvie is way better than Gman. No hate on Gman but I don't really care about him and move on to someone way more knowledgeable and better.

[@hanchiman]

@@Shotgun2Face94 funny enough it was also Blood Fresh supply that I got "suggestion" from YT algorithm.

[@hanchiman]

@@Shotgun2Face94 also Civvie jokes is inoffensive to anyone excep the game announce like.. Sewer count *Ding!*

[@Shotgun2Face94]

@@hanchiman and hearing Civvie make a Greasy Randy burn always puts a smile on my face. As a Duke Nukem fan, fuck you Randy Pitchford, you greasy bastard.

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

@@hanchiman idk, he had a pretty extended (and hilarious) bit about blowing up abortion clinics.

[@nigralurker]

My biggest gripe with this guy is that he shills and he doesn't do a good job of concealing that. The best proof you can get is when he contradicts his opinion from older videos. A good example of this is his two Turok 2 videos, one for the original PC launch in 98 where he states that its a relatively mediocre game and then one when the Remaster came out from Nightdive where he immediately starts slobbering over it calling it "one of the best classic shooters of all time" And when people do point out these blatant mistakes, he holds some serious grudges. Good example is with Civvie, who made a single quip of saying how he doesn't understand how Gmanlives would praise the launched port of Blood due to its bugs and for that Gman STILL has a grudge over that guy.

[@DoomKid]

Yeah, just minutes after this went live, Gman commented then quickly deleted it. It’s a shame to hear he holds grudges like that..

[@nigralurker]

@@DoomKid I been listening to him since 2015, and around 2017 is when he really started a sharp turn with his takes and claims in his videos. I think this was a little after he hit over 100k subscribers and started making a name for himself regarding FPS shooters in the industry. But he's increasingly gotten more pretentious with a hostile attitude and of course that's going to draw criticism from people (esp hardcore fans of games like Doom) who are going to challenge him in his remarks, which he doesn't necessarily take well, at all. If you place yourself on a pedestal of authenticity, you best make sure to be ready to defend your claims.

[@headjump803]

I love old fps games like doom and duke nukem and enjoyed the hell out of ion fury, but I play on easier difficulties and whenever I watch videos of gman or civvie and hear that only the high difficulties are the real deal, I feel that there is no place for me in these communities. So your opinion on the difficulties really means a lot to me, thank you!

[@manreal]

Guys, Doomkid doesn't really sound like a kid to me🤨🤨🤨

[@someoneelse2005]

I completely agree with local multiplayer splitscreen being totally underrepresented. It's always a good feature to have and saying "just play online it's better" isn't a valid reason not to support it.

[@dimples9746]

Splitscreen is for chads

[@someoneelse2005]

@@dimples9746 Agreed.

[@Famix]

Your insanely constructive. Also love how you give him credit where it's due

[@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883]

*You're

[@MrGhoulster]

I don't agree with most of gmanlives statements, but the GZDoom menu I agree with 100%. It's an awful mess that could be solved by a few simple tweaks. Fiddling with graphic settings requires you to go back and forth between 3-4 submenus. It's awful and not to mention all the ugly shit that is turned on by default. After a lot of tinkering I have learned my way around it, but it's no wonder that the "most popular" source port turns players off with a damn menu

[@eltiolavara9]

absolutely

[@icyjiub2228]

I will say that GZdoom at the very least has the best feeling mouse look out of all the source ports.

[@eltiolavara9]

@@icyjiub2228 yea i honestly prefer gzdoom to all other sourceports just cause of how the mouse feels

[@luigimaster111]

GZDoom needs what a lot of modern games have: A handful of graphical presets that tweak a bunch of settings at once and then an advanced menu to tweak the individual options The most useful presets I can think of would be: Performance, Vanilla, Enhanced, Enhanced+, and Hurt Me Plenty.

[@eltiolavara9]

@@luigimaster111 yeah honestly i was thinking about it earlier and its the best way to go about it

[@SDK2K9]

Nice video. I do watch his reviews, even after his sigil review. Yet he did mess up a bit here. Also maybe instead of saying that ultra violence is the ideal way to play Doom, he could have said that's it his ideal way to play doom.

[@akimbofurry2179]

So pepole are saying he took it down due to this video insulting him, is misinformation on the GmanLives hate train. THough the end peace dose talk about hate, I have a strong feeling he was talking about his comment section, witch a lot of the hate train tends to live in his videos, GmanLives @Ggdograa · Sep 13 I've pulled down my recent Doom video. As numerous people have pointed out, there's a bunch of errors over some of the ports features. It was never my intent to misinform, but I don't really feel like getting abused and insulted over a video that was intended to entertain.

[@KeksimusMaximus]

It's almost as if almost all of his videos about older games are lazy and by no means in-depth...

[@cyodeneni590]

Mods like Brutal Doom are good for bringing neophytes to the community.

[@DoomKid]

Very true, lol

[@podfuk]

It bringed back me after 20 years ;) And I play classic Doom again since. From Brutal Doom to Complex Doom to Clusterfack back again to vanilla :D

[@sergentharker7182]

I remember a couple years ago it seemed like Gman was a well liked creator, but I'm seeing a lot more backlash against his stuff now, it's been interesting to see

[@DoomKid]

@Raw Dawgit I wouldn't trade my channel for Gman's even if you paid me, lol

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

@Raw Dawgit who ever said doomkid was jealous? and also see the blood fresh supply video and sigil video, lot's of hate on him that's seen as right

[@MrMoustouche]

You sir are a king. Saying anyone can play any difficulty. I love doom but suck at it. I’m still a man if I play on hurt me plenty!

[@mayomancer527]

Gotta say, this video inspired me to try playing with a controller in the new port (something i never bothered with on other source ports) and it's surprisingly pleasant. Movement feels nice, the key bindings are good as they come, and aiming with the stick is not hard like other fps's since there's only 1 axis

[@icyjiub2228]

Also check out gyro aiming if you have it on the switch, it completely matches mouse imo.

[@classicdoomguy3356]

@@icyjiub2228 if you get really good at gyro controls , it actually can beat the accuracy of a mouse . Sadly , I need my number keys and quick ability to talk shit at any given moment.

[@spacepirate1449]

13:00 please tell me which song this is! i recognize is but cant place it...

[@DoomKid]

That's a song from Descent 2 :) Can't recall which one exactly at the moment.. but that's definitely the source!

[@spacepirate1449]

@@DoomKid yes its Game 4 found it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2mvY5x6Zrt-hbc

[@drugstoremarc2]

Subbed because of this video. Staying because of Doom content

[@bigmetalhead1210]

I watched this vid earlier this year, and I still occasionally watch this from time to time lmao. It's cool of you that you did this in a respectful way instead of just dunking on him. I think he kinda gets a bit too much hate from time to time lol. With that being said, I hope Sigil 2 gets released soon so that we get to see GmanLives' hilarious take on it lmfao.

[@DoomKid]

I wonder if he'll do a video on it? Could be a great way to redeem the last one.

[@populouslove1425]

Ultra Violent is usually accepted as proper, probably because it's the right amount of push for the better players. Sometimes it's overkill, but is usually manageable. I think the elitist Doomers all agree that nightmare is too much. But obviously I'm speaking in broad terms.

[@thousandyoung]

Well for the last difficulty you have to rush maps instead of killing everything since you can run out of ammo easily.

[@nameless_outlander]

I think it helps that UV in Doom 1/2 is easy by modern gamers' standards.

[@icyjiub2228]

UV is imo the most fun way to play and what you should design around as a master copy, then lower the intensity for HMP and below. But you can totally shift things up a gear, like Sunlust does where HMP is hard like UV would be on any other mapset and UV itself is HOLY FUCK tier

[@chaosblitz7921]

@@thousandyoung not really, Nightmare! doubles ammo pickups like in I'm Too Young To Die. The problem is the fast and respawning monsters. Nightmare! is a speedrunning difficulty. It's the literal incarnation of "GOTTA GO FAST"

[@kebab_hill]

at 11:59 he said about shrine a mod well.. Shrine isn't a mod anymore just recently a mod i don't know what shrine is he talking about the mod one or the standalone?

[@DoomKid]

I'm sure he was talking about the mod

[@Tinkerer_Red]

You're so fucking down to earth, and dont seem to gate keep. Having controller support and local multiplayer are accessibility features, which regardless of how one plays should always be cherished. Far to many games leave out controller support which leaves out most all disabled players. (yes autohotkey, but that means for more struggle for the disabled.) You're rad, you have my sub.

[@DoomKid]

I appreciate that!

[@Tinkerer_Red]

@@DoomKid KZbin is trash, but gems like your channel make it worth it.

[@Fiendzy]

Okay I’m a bit confused for the longest time on the subject I’m about to ask… what is actually the general settings for UV+? I hear people consider UV+ being normal monster speed + MP enemy spawns. (Pre unity version) Then you people saying it’s UV mode + Fast Monster & MP monster spawns (I think I saw decino do UV+ videos and I can’t recall if he was using fast monsters or not) If you play the former / latter style. Do they still count as the same thing? or are they now their own sub categories? Ie UV-MAX etc Mainly wondering *IF* I attempt at wad streaming / map recordings when I get my pc back up and running. I’d like to have the “correct” information on the matter. Not wanting to miss guide people is all.

[@MatthewFrightening]

I'm at least glad this time around there are lots of informed viewers in his comments to correct the misinformation on most things you pointed out here

[@masonsmitty937stimecapsule9]

Can you coop through LAN? Similar to the psx play link cable? It supports up to 6 players, but having the screen split that much would be awful.

[@DoomKid]

I’m pretty sure it does support lan, I haven’t checked myself though so I could be wrong

[@masonsmitty937stimecapsule9]

@@DoomKid If I get my old ps4 fixed or when I get a ps5 I will try to remember this comment and give a definitive answer. Thanks for the reply because its been hard finding an answer.

[@ViperAcidZX]

He also mentioned the Unity port was only released on PS4 and Xbox One. Guess the Nintendo Switch or Android/iOS devices are new to him since the Unity port was released there initially as well.

[@Eiyaa90]

This video came up recommended, insta subscribed. You are great at honest critique The console versions do have trophies and achievements and have since release. Kind of surprised that the steam ports don't.

[@KokoRicky]

This was an extremely polite and well-thought out retort. I hope GMan understands this.

[@GodEmperor-of-Mankind]

Honestly god bless for you making this. Gonna be subscribing!

[@henrynelson9301]

Gmanlives is the MysteriousMrEnter of game reviewers

[@spimpsmacker6422]

Damn, this is actually a good analogy, especially with his excessively jaded personality, his condescending opinions, and him overall trying so hard to be pedantic that he ends up sounding even more dense.

[@BeavisOfArabia2nd]

Great video dude, you really know your Doom.