We Predict What MTB Might Look Like In 2025!

[@gmbntech]

What are your MTB tech predictions for 2025?

[@307.William]

All I hope for is trickle down tech that’s very affordable

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

I predict Shimano will finally release a true wireless drivetrain and a new brake that will get rid of Wandering Bite Point once and for all… actually just trying to manifest both.

[@theRhinsRanger]

I want to ride, not get bogged down with hundreds of tech and adjustments that can ruin your day. Its getting to the point where i might as well put a 2 stroke motor on my bike 😂😂😂

[@crankshoptv]

Dear industry. Don't waste your R&D money on wireless brakes (/anything) we have all we need for now... Instead, invest in local trail infrastructure, put your branding on the signage. Support us and we'll support you. You won't have a business if there's nowhere to ride.

[@thomasprior7492]

The bike industry needs to sell bikes to make money, it's a business after all. So this is actually a good idea, more trails more people riding, more bikes being sold (and more people needing replacement parts 😅). Why don't companies do this?

[@superlazy3355]

Agreed

[@davidhoneycutt2495]

When a bike company invests in tech, it belongs to them only and helps them compete. When they invest in trails it belongs to everyone. While this is great, if company A invests in the trails and company B invests in bikes, company B’s bike’s are better and they still get the benefits of the trails. If bike riders invest in our own trails then we have more ownership. It costs the same, just depends on what path the money takes? Direct from the bikers or through a bunch of companies.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I want to ride my bicycle. I want to ride it where I like. That's about it.

[@crankshoptv]

@@davidhoneycutt2495 Company A invests in a new trail. Their name is front and center on every marker. Company B makes wireless brakes that only a handful of people can afford, which ultimately doesn't take off and goes to landfill, physically and metaphorically. Which company wins?

[@spektrumB]

Battery on suspensions, shifting, brakes, dropper post, sensors everywhere, etc. At least half a dozen batteries on the bike. Make sure they're all charged before hitting the trail......what a hassle.

[@francisdee9955]

no electronics on my bike

[@benjy288]

Hopefully most of those don't come true, especially wireless everything

[@TheLoamMountaineer]

Without the wire, bike shops will be in less demand

[@galenkehler]

Wireless is so much nicer tho, remember a few years ago when bikes had like 8 cables coming off the bars (2 brake, 2 shift, 2 lockout, dropper post, and one extra that didn't go anywhere but the designers we like "why not")😂

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I often wake up in a pool of sweat, terrible nightmare.

[@crankshoptv]

@@TheLoamMountaineer until you need to claim on the warranty for said wireless thing, then realise water damage isn't covered and go back to cables 😉

[@TheLoamMountaineer]

@ this genx’er is staying with cables brother. Electronic chit weighs more and in the event of a CME or Nuke blast my cables will still work.

[@Durwood71]

"Sorry guys, I can't ride with you today. I forgot to charge the battery for my suspension." Is this really where we want the hobby to be?

[@tb4326]

Ironically, I’m against (for me) a bike with a motor, but I am all about electric drivetrain and suspension.

[@Durwood71]

@@tb4326 I like the relative simplicity of an all mechanical bike. I understand how it works and can fix most of it myself using common tools. But once you start putting critical components inside electronic black boxes, you suddenly end up with something that is impossible to repair at home and either needs to be sent away for servicing, or replaced entirely when it stops working.

[@daytch9485]

Wireless , the thing nobody's asking for that the industry says you asked for.

[@jamestaylor3149]

@@daytch9485 Yes. It seems standard in many industries now. I get innovation, but I dislike being charged for their R&D through ownership; Anyone remember the first gen Fox 36’s, Sram x9 rear mechs + all the big manufacturers with consistent frame failures? And now they want us to buy electric rear mechs, seat posts and active adaptive suspension? I get ebikes, but this is insane.

[@fudganuld]

Even if I could afford wireless stuff,I'd still stick with XT as I'd be worried of it getting nicked off my bike...Ha!!

[@TheLoamMountaineer]

Yes! Especially when an XT derail can be had for $75 usd!

[@goodeggnoggs]

Trouble is we don't want any of it.

[@WorkLessRideMore]

Wirelss shifting is fine, but i dont need electronics all over everything else.

[@JackOfHearts42]

IMO I think all bike competitions should be 100% electronic-free. No wireless or automatic ANYTHING. eMTB maybe, but at what point does it become motorcross?

[@Hadroncollider_]

I really look forward to power steering. I like every aspect of mountainbiking, but I really hate moving those bars.

[@thevapingpolisher9717]

No wireless for me

[@apfolklore]

Needs to be EMTB specific cassettes and chains. my 2 cents...

[@gmbntech]

Yeah great point!

[@ebikescrapper3925]

Hopes for 2025 Make dynamo hubs lighter One of the big companies bring out a belt drive Make batteries fit all gear systems Bike companies admit they are not as eco friendly as they claim to be

[@danyak101]

Cmon bike companies get creative, the steel front triangle matted to alu or carbon rear now you have a mullet frame and that sounds killer. 🎉

[@LlenadeMalo]

15:50 We don’t need more speeds. Twelve is already finicky. Really I want fewer. My 2010 Giant had nine speeds and I never had to adjust anything.

[@krehme]

Thanks for such a nice review of what was new! Excited to see you both in the year ahead :) Keep up the good work!

[@gmbntech]

Our pleasure! Happy new year

[@JeffMTBinVA]

What I want is manufacturers to give us more customization build options like Propane. I want to be able to have a full sus aluminum frame and put whatever I want on it.

[@gmbntech]

Great shout! We're see definitely seeing a few companies going Propain's way

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Another mad guy about wireless. The wireless part doesn't bother me that much but batteries do. No, no, nope. I have a garmin solar watch and that's already needing too much charging if you ask me 😅

[@LlenadeMalo]

May next bike will probably be aluminum. I don’t see the need to have carbon anymore.

[@mizziu]

12:22 beauty shot and the mudguard is backwards 🤣

[@gmbntech]

Not backwards! Just not the factory spec mudguard so it stands out a little

[@heywood165]

A BikeYoke wireless dropper was spotted in 2024, hopefully they release a finished version in 2025. Best posts out there!

[@jonoharper4729]

I'll not be a purchaser of wireless brakes....knowing my luck the battery will fail on a treacherous descent 😂

[@hectorluevano4056]

Hope the next year we see more about really strong titanium and aluminum bikes that endure any abuse, at the same, the jump to transmissions as pinion, and adaptive suspensions kind fly assistant, it could be a very interesting year.

[@ltrtg13]

Anna, WheelTop do a wireless transmission upgrade. It'sthe rear shifter and rear mech. You can the use the rest of your current drivetrain. You don't even need to replace it if you decide to change the number of gears your running. As the WHEELTOP EDS-OX YQ MTB can rung 3 to 14 speed. It has 3 cage lengths 58mm, 75mm, 93mm. Depending on how close the ratios are. If you want to change ratio. You can just buy a new cage and change it. You use an app to set the number of sprockets your using. Rotor have a 13 speed mountain bike gearing. In fact. They had it before Campagnolo snd SRAM. The also have a choice of hydraulic and now wireless. As the WheelTop now owns a majority stake in Rotor Bicycle Components.

[@Kingsoupturbo]

In Cordless power tools there is a real revolution going on with no name brands (or Walmart) making big power, incredible value tools undercutting name brands like crazy, this is what we need for wireless shifting\droppers in MTB. Anna's face while Owen talks about ebikes, how I feel! What I'd like is some way to quickly change my tires from DH to Trail without the usual hassles of tubeless, that rolling resistance change is the real key to making the big difference, the Question is how, hmmmm, probably N+1.

[@uldi1s]

Well, it looks like I'll be one of the very few that will ride a HCHT (Hello Dave) with no electronics whatsoever 🙄 And those short cranks... you can keep 'em. 180mm cranks here FTW! 😎 And gears... I went from 12 back to 10 a couple years ago and am MUCH happier. No more constant adjustments or shifting 4 at a time!

[@gmbntech]

As long as you're enjoying the ride we're happy 😁

[@bchearne]

I like the flip-chip on my suspension more than I thought I would. Half a degree change in effective head tube angle makes more difference than you’d think on nasty descents

[@gmbntech]

When do you change? Frequently based on the terrain of the day or rarely based on acquiring a different feel?

[@boronsniify]

I agree that most bikes from car companies are pretty poor, but I have a Porsche FS from 1998 which was made by the high end Votec brand in Stuttgart. It was an alloy fully weighing 11.5 kg (very light for the time) and the geometry was tweaked by a group of engineers at Porsche who were ardent MTB riders. It pedals well without bobbing and, whilst the head angle is steep, it’s agile without being too nervous. The frame has some beautiful CnC’d bits, like some of the new upscale alloy bikes you showed in the video. I knew my colleagues were doing this and vowed to buy one when they became available. Even with my company discount the cost was high, but I have had 20-odd years of fun from my FS. I have a modern geometry 29” Rocky in the USA, but still enjoy riding the old Porker.

[@superlazy3355]

Dear any biking brands that are thinking about wireless design. You shan't be having any of my bike fund money for any of that technology. Ever. Fly by wire on a plane with redundancy makes complete sense. Fly by wire on a mountain bike with 0 redundancy makes no sense. Call me old fashioned but the analogue systems will always take my money.

[@billderas3420]

Isn't 13 supposed to be unlucky. Good luck with 13 speed Shimano!

[@mark7620]

Numbers are only unlucky if you're an idiot.

[@tracymcmanus550]

Instead of more gears I’d like to see variety in the cogs of the cassette. I never use the 10t cog, but would love a gear between the 32t & 36t for rocky tech riding

[@brianbaker5694]

When tuned mass dampeners are closer to 100 bucks I'll be all over it to cut down on vibrations

[@the_crazy_quadrider2959]

I hope it is still ok if I use my 2 year old aluminum trail hardtail. only use a Deore drive and low budget Shimano MT520 brakes. If you look at what is currently being ridden, mountain biking will soon only be a sport for the rich people

[@WorkLessRideMore]

Im not rich, but my priorities lie in riding bikes so I have multiple very nice modern bikes. Its just about where and what you decide to spend your money on.

[@tracymcmanus550]

Nothing wrong with any of that if you are enjoying your bike and having fun. The Deore drivetrain is great and if your breaks are reliable why upgrade? I had a Canyon Stoic with Deore and DB8 and it was great. I just can’t ride HTs anymore or I’d still have it

[@WilliamKennedy-g5k]

How about a dropper seatpost that goes all the way down quickly without having to weight it down with your backside!

[@GregLanz]

Having been in IT for a couple decades now I get the convenience of wireless but I also know that hardwired in one way or another will always be more reliable and secure. And yes I've tried it and yes I get it but I also get it

[@jackiegammon2065]

More batteries on a bike, like many have already stated seem like they could be a problem.Will all of these pieces take the same charger, especially if you are traveling. Not something that I am interested in, and personally how much electronic "stuff" do we need in our lives? #2 Aluminum frames, nothing new here...but it should help the cycling companies to lower cost of bikes and maybe help more people to get on bikes. #3 Electronics and top companies changing top tubes to only accomodate wireless droppers, you mentioned Santa Cruz... do we know what is happening with them and Cervelo yet? Lastly, dampers,, will the less feedback option cause shifting problems? Something that I am definitely interested in... thanks for all of your input/info!

[@bobwhite4748]

New custom Chilhowee with 160mm Appleman cranks

[@brianculver433]

When are you guys going to acknowledge the existence of the Pinion gearbox. I have the Priority 500HXT - game changer !!!!

[@dennisbalgobin461]

Time for maintenance-free suspension. Having to service them so frequently is an expensive annoyance.

[@gmbntech]

We don't think we're at a terrible place with this right now! Compared to a decade ago service intervals are pretty good

[@黄辰旭]

the e-mtb are much expensive than e-motor bike when they have these battery

[@ish474]

If new frames go to wireless only I'll be running external cables and stocking up on old derailleurs

[@navysealblackwater]

The bicycle industry has fallen into the same trap that doomed the automotive industry during its heyday: prioritizing planned obsolescence and profit over accessibility and durability. What once were simple, repairable machines are now proprietary, overcomplicated systems that alienate riders. Much like Detroit’s gas-guzzlers of the past, the industry is flooding the market with high-margin carbon bikes and trendy gravel models while ignoring the growing need for durable, affordable commuters. The pandemic only amplified these failures. Instead of rising to meet unprecedented demand, manufacturers delivered inflated prices, dwindling quality, and incompatible parts-all while claiming to “redefine cycling.” Independent shops suffered while corporate brands cashed in, leaving a glut of overpriced bikes no one asked for while everyday riders scrounged for secondhand alternatives. Bikes were once symbols of simplicity and ingenuity, but today’s industry feels more like a cynical cash grab. Cycling deserves better, and if the next generation of riders demands it, maybe it can be that symbol of freedom again.

[@RAZ423]

Next is a wireless bike that tracks everything you do and feeds you advertisements on a built in display. Call it Facebike.

[@dinunclv]

All this wireless things kinda miss the point of MTB. MTB is all about going outside and getting lost in the forest or on a mountain. Living the moment, getting away from everyday life. I do not want to worry about a battery during that time. Would really ruin the fun.

[@Extremegaz25]

Definitely less bikes more adjustability is the answer. There's enough different brands never mind different products in the brands.

[@oterocanyon4224]

Adjustability in bikes is ecologically sound. Manufacturers have not done the environment any favors by offering so many bikes with categories that are so easily blurred. Down country versus XC versus Trail versus Enduro versus Slopestyle versus the environment. Which category loses? A lightweight fully rigid steel vintage mountain bike is still a relevant choice for durable off-road utility. It might also be a better choice in terms of environmental impact than a modern carbon bike with the associated toxic production waste. Don't get me wrong I love modern bikes too but I am not kidding myself about the environmental impact of heavy, fast long travel carbon ebikes both on the trail and in an industrial production environment.

[@DJEpisteme]

My bikes live in the garage and winters are sub freezing cold; batteries are not in my future.

[@bchearne]

It might look like a bunch of cyclists buying older parts because we don’t want electronics. What an annoying trend in an already overpriced market

[@laeljon]

Started riding 135 MM cranks in 2013...

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Projected growth of the cycling industry in general is about ~ 2% until 2030, if you take all ebikes as a standalone category it would be more like 5% protected growth by 2030. Sorry guys, we peaked about two years ago 😂

[@antoinechalons]

2025 will be the year of gearboxes, rear derailleur is dead

[@Mada_1337]

Would love a titanium bike!

[@HenkeLevin]

Only a very few nerds want the electronics. The majority absolutely not

[@yumyumhungry]

A lot of retrogrouches in the comments but I do hope Shimano releases something to be competitive with axs in 2025. MTB groupsets need competition.

[@tracymcmanus550]

Yes. And hopefully they can keep the components prices reasonable. $200 for a chain is ridiculous.

[@Semponi]

Look at the world of new cars, they are so Tech heavy now and drivers are annoyed by the bleeps and auto intrusiveness of the systems to the extent they are turning functions off. Seems lots of folk are buying older cars which are cheaper to buy and maintain. Professional mechanics are reporting increasing time / difficulty to carry out even some basic jobs; most home mechanics, no chance.So, IMHO, bring on the cycling tech but have bikes available for those of us wanting a more raw experience. Could there not be "the bike", then option to add tech options to suit individual preferences?

[@royevans4581]

Remote control E-bike so you can operate it from the warmth of your van while you have a brew on. 🤣🤣

[@Velo1010]

Yes to wireless tech.

[@phenofinder9145]

Not a fan of anything battery powered on a bicycle unless its an e bike obviously

[@gibbykirwan7788]

Shorter cranks = more pedaling. The drive for shorter cranks is coming from you, the media..... Pedal strikes are down to poor technique

[@benjy288]

And less leverage, less torque, effectively like putting a bigger front chain ring on your bike

[@tim__sadler]

Shimano wireless mountain bike groups sets...yes please, but it better include a DH Saint variant....🤘. Actually I would happily just take the Saint groupsets they have been testing for years now... ...no doubt we will see a fair few dampers out there but the data is not going to support them, so we will see them slowly disappear. It also feels like hub and bb crankset manufacturers are going to come in and take the Ochain market from them (with probably just a simple on/off option). And yes ebikes will lead the tech... and there will still be luddites in the comments 😂

[@hc3820]

So, a pile more stuff to go wrong

[@chrisleech333]

Well I won't be buying any wireless crap

[@markharris2473]

Pauline doesn`t use the Electronic suspention . kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWXoWpmmKaKlbM

[@thomasprior7492]

Good predictions, most will come true, sadly in some cases... OTT Wireless everything, adaptive suspension that you don't need, hilarious short cranks inspired only by E-bikes and cheaper aluminium costing more than carbon...all these advances the bike industry will need to reel in more people to this "hobby" to offset an already saturated market thanks to "do it all" bikes that everyone bought last year. 😂 You forgot to mention lots more bike companies disappearing, though I really hope that doesn't happen.

[@___..Will..___]

SRAM not SHHHram, google it! Great vid though.

[@abuckcat]

What about cyber bike I'm thinking it would be ugly

[@Wimbelder]

Just give me a 9 speed cassette with bigger gears wil last longer

[@user001zyx]

Reg. the all-adjustability & all-wireless : K.I.S.S. ( keep it simple stupid ) concept & ' a-bike-that-just-works ' are probaply the selling point for the majority. For those, that need it the max adjustability and the bike-nerds among us, the infinite adjustability & maximum tech-toys will be fun & good. Good value for money bikes are bound to be a focus, that integrate some of the predictions. If the batteries get smaller & longer lasting & the tech cheaper, it will prop become the norm. With all the sensors and adjustability, we just need to integrate some A.I., Lidar, cameras, non-stop clouds, voice-prompt etc to be on-par with self-driving cars (-;

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

How the heck does SRAM AXS GX Derailluer upgrade kit still costs £500 all this time later! Preposterous..... should have come down in price by now. rip off merchants

[@TheLoamMountaineer]

We need more women in MTB. Its a freaking sausage party 🎉😂🎉

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

That's what people who don't practice other sports say 😂

[@noelbodle8863]

This obsession with batteries is ridiculous, it adds complexity, cost, weight, reliability and has a major negatively to the environment. Come on people don’t buy this crap buy yourself a good old trusty XT groupset and some Hope bits and it will last you years !

[@ralphcrosby4051]

Thanks for another informative vid. Computer control suspension and wireless shifting and braking leave that tech in formula one .keep mountain biking simple. Or I have a feeling the average Joe won't be able to afford the sport and only the super rich will be involved. So much for the ruff and tumble and all around adventure gone .the rich they won't ride just who has the most money invested ,the cock of the walk b.s. 😏looking forward too more .the last of the old school. Mountain bikers, cheers 🍻

[@madtownangler]

Most of my bikes are from the late 1990's early 2000's.

[@fuckinellitsraymo]

Dinosaur

[@TheLoamMountaineer]

Ahhhhhh! Those were the days!

[@LlenadeMalo]

@@madtownangler sweet, underbiking. Just remember to get to the right!

[@Mavrik-60]

Yeah the guy died in that accident because his electric brakes went out. No thank you But do keepemcoming

[@LlenadeMalo]

Electric brakes may be good if there is redundancy. I don’t see how you can build that into such a small package. As you say, brakes give out at the wrong time, you die.

[@tb4326]

E-MTB’s are not MTB’s. Why? Because it’s literally in the name, “E”-MTB! There is a big difference.

[@scottpratico1315]

So MTBs aren't bikes?

[@davidtomasetti8520]

it's in the name? e-"mtb". lol, what a weird take.

[@scottpratico1315]

Show us where the e bike touched you....😂

[@WorkLessRideMore]

I'm so sick of hearing about e bikes. Am I the only person with no interest in having a motor?

[@LlenadeMalo]

Yes. Only you. Sorry, mate.

[@shawnpritchard366]

I'm going to continue my ultra low tech approach. A rigid steel single speed will be my go-to for every ride.

[@gmbntech]

Sounds sweet! Enjoy it 🤘

[@bobberdown7647]

Mtbikers are starting to look homogeneous.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

That happens whenever there's a lot of user volume introduced to a new sport. It also happened late 1990's. Sadly or happily depending on your view of the situation most will be gone in a couple of years and then only the lifetime committed weirdos will push on 😂

[@TheLoamMountaineer]

👉More Steel Bikes please …..as we say in the US, #makeamericaMETALagain 😂

[@rottieshepcalibre9156]

I’m scared of ebikes. I really don’t wanna see my little house up in flames. ¿death traps?

[@tonybennett3904]

NO TO ELECTRIC

[@LlenadeMalo]

Turn the lights off! ✊

[@Holloweve]

Owen, could you be any more disinterested and mis… cheer up mate it’s holiday season and you’re talking about mountain bikes. ☹️

[@gmbntech]

This is a mountain bike tech channel! We're always talking about mountain bikes 😅

[@aphtonyjim]

I'd like to see Shimano bring out for ebikes, a MGU and jump ahead of its competition.....there missing a trick and it's definitely the future for ebike transmissions.

[@obxarms7685]

Wireless sucks

[@WorkLessRideMore]

1x12 is plenty of gear range.

[@timothyrajah6350]

This is the first time I am the second person to leave a comment for another great video by Anna and Owen

[@fuckinellitsraymo]

😂

[@gmbntech]

Thanks for watching!

[@dwightd.3725]

Very educational and you have good product Knowledge And I wish all women would like her

[@cripmeister9104]

One day not too far in the future we will look back at this wireless nonsense and laugh.

[@LlenadeMalo]

Definitely laugh that it took this long, for sure!👍 .

[@piotrjankowski616]

Ok, but why?

[@Laurie-Kirk]

First

[@Jacob99174]

Holy sh!+, congrats! 👍🏿