Gone Girl - Why Amy's Fury Still Resonates 10 Years Later

[@thetake]

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[@StrongAndfeminine]

Why is it so dangerous to give men their revenge fantasies against women

[@Julie-tw7yy]

The Take always knows what I want 😂 watching gone girl tonight and wanted an analysis on the “cool girl” facade for the patriarchy

[@trinaq]

No shade to Julianne Moore, but Rosamund Pike should have won the Best Actress Oscar in 2015 for her chilling performance as Amy, and never really knowing where you stood with her.

[@bibaolaitan5189]

This!!!..

[@joaopedrojp1448]

Yes and she didn't even got nominatede for May december which is way better

[@CandaceYoung962]

I would also recommend 'I Care a Lot.'

[@marchingham]

100%. I theorize that the male dominated Oscar committee were too scared of her 😂

[@reng935]

nah Julianne Moore was exceptional as Alice; well deserved Oscar win.

[@Chinni_C888]

I was just thinking about the "cool girl" monologue the other day. How brutal that you prioritize another person in your life for decades, then when they got everything they can from you, they just trade you in for a younger model? Why would they be the one to get to do that? I understand why Amy snapped.

[@ChrisStrazz]

Yes because faking a death to ruin your person's life, murdering someone, and then going back to trap the person in the relationship would be a much better option than just leaving if you feel mistreated...this comment section makes me fear for my life 😭

[@filali8109]

@@ChrisStrazz Its an exaggerated response to something that happens in real life and fictional. Amy doesn't exist in real life. I beg you to have media literacy.

[@nataliaalfonso2662]

I mean probably bc they’re the ones being lied to for decades right? Lmfao. Like obviously someone who tricked someone into a relationship doesn’t deserve a relationship.

[@nataliaalfonso2662]

@@ChrisStrazzI think the fact that people don’t see desperate narcisisstic desperation for relationships as reason enough to deserve being mistreated is scary enough. Also the fact that no one who watched the movie seems to realize her exes ACTUALLY WERE ABUSING HER. Like crazy badly. And that she gave too much to Nick because he never had….. Until she realized he had been cheating with a teenager. So this supremely destroyed person who had been exploited and commodified and stalked and raped, then had all her money spent by a guy she at least thought was decent….. Completely snapped when she realized what he was doing. And she just so happened to be brilliant so the snapping was quite epic.

[@ChrisStrazz]

@@nataliaalfonso2662 maybe I'm remembering it incorrectly but didn't we learn she falsified those claims of abuse when nick met with her ex? Either way don't get me wrong but we're talking about being shitty in a relationship with first degree murder and staging another one/kidnapping 😂

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Rosamund Pike was just the perfect choice for this.

[@anshulam4286]

So nice to see a familiar TISS face here!

[@PokhrajRoy.]

@@anshulam4286 BELLBODDUM

[@akka9335]

How are you present at every channel on KZbin? How much time do you spend here?

[@PokhrajRoy.]

@@akka9335 A lot of time

[@lynnevetter]

She's one of the reason I love the Doom, no matter what anyone says. Lol

[@the8u9]

I really did think Rosamund Pike should have taken the Oscar that year. She was SO chilling throughout the entire movie but also portrayed as extremely beautiful which made it all the scarier.

[@greyLeicester]

I dont really find her attractive but can apreciate beaty subjectively. Plus she rocks and suits every hairstyle in that film

[@makeupbyjessx13]

The most clearly stated reason they stay together at the end is because of the child on the way & Amy threatening that their child will grow up hating him but also because Amy knows (and says) that Nick likes trying to be someone she will like. He likes that she killed for him and that he was able to manipulate her into doing it and come back home to him. In a way, they’re both very similar and too alike to let the other go

[@per-c8229]

Exactly! they bought codependent and love that dynamic, that's even Nick's sister leaves and the end.

[@itaylevin4555]

What the hell are you talking about? There is no indication at all that Nick "liked" that he killed for her and he couldn't manipulate her to kill because he didn't even know where she was. He only tried to manipulate her to come back and exonerate him.

[@makeupbyjessx13]

@@itaylevin4555 If so, why didn’t he just leave her? At the end, even his sister questions him, if the real reason he’s choosing to stay with her is for the child. The argument at the end, Amy knows the real reason and says that Nick only likes himself when he’s trying to be someone she might like. He also knows that he successfully manipulated her (via the interview) to get her to come back to him. He knows the depth she’d go to for him & he never goes against it because he knows she did it for him. Again, they know they can successfully manipulate each other, get away with it and still want to be with the other.

[@birdiewolf3497]

@@makeupbyjessx13 His twin sister/best friend clocked his tea!!! Nick is exactly where he wants to be.

[@legoqueen2445]

Nick hates himself except when he is being the man Amy forces him to be, she brings out the best in him and he took that for granted and slacked off and had an affair. Her dissapearence forces him to wake up and play the game or end up in jail for her murder. It's a truly beautifil love story! I want to be Amy when I grow up! 😂❤

[@trinaq]

Amy tolerated so much from Nick, including sitting through Adam Sandler movies, only for him to cheat on her with his student. It's no wonder that she snapped enough to ruin his life.

[@alexcoyg3281]

She was a crazy person, she did not snap, it was there all along before Nick, kinda missing the point here, suggesting that she HAD to kill anyone is insane.

[@mariaskabardonis8353]

Nick didn’t force her to watch Adam Sandler movies and she’s has a pattern of doing messed up things. She could have divorced Nick she had money and resources she didn’t have to fake her own death

[@ljhcmh614]

What are you talking about? She lied to him. She pretended to be somebody she wasn’t so that she could win his approval. She was dishonest and deceptive. The idea that she’s the victim is really pretty disgusting. You are literally blaming the person who was victimized by her deception.

[@nataliaalfonso2662]

@@alexcoyg3281one thing that’s really interesting about how people perceive Amy is that, yes, no doubt, by the time she met Nick she was quite mentally unwell. But it’s CRAZY how very few people watching the movie totally missed that her exes WERE DERANGED ABUSIVE LIARS. Like OBVIOUSLY the one she ended up killing bc he KIDNAPPED AND SEQUESTERED HER…. As he had always wanted to do… Was nuts. But also? The one claiming she had faked the rape accusations against him? Was clearly LYING. That was the whole point! Everyone misses that.

[@TroubledMoth]

@@ljhcmh614 did you miss the part where HE also pretended to be someone he wasnt?? his hands were never clean either! Both people were toxic for each other; they were both victims and aggressors :0

[@pop8612]

Ben Affleck was casted perfectly as Nick.

[@shawnjackson3764]

Yes. Especially decades after Chasing Amy.

[@AmyThePuddytat]

​@@shawnjackson3764It's always an Amy.

[@SamanthaYelena]

Lol

[@kcbh24]

*cast

[@London_nyc_girl]

Hes never been that hot again!

[@kgomotsosekonya9435]

Its because shes basically the Joker for women. She does all the wild stuff we deep down wish we could do when terribly wronged by men and society in general. Watching her is cathartic in ways we cant really talk about without sounding scary 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@TheKingWhoWins]

You're right you would sound like a psycho if you wanted to do half of the things she did.

[@cherylhulting1301]

​@TheKingWhoWins Guess what. We all know that Amy is very mentally ill (if you read the book you know a lot more about why). But the "Cool Girl" speech is too close to home, which is why it's very relatable for a lot of women. In fact I actually laughed when I first read it, because it's so on point. Women spend every day walking through a world dominated by male priorities and which hadn't much use for them. Then they are told their most important job is ro prioritize men, many of whom in fact don't really like women. Then when they are deemed no longer useful and traded in for the "new model," the essential meaninglessness of it all hits home. That's going to be staggering for someone of Amy's intelligence.

[@TheKingWhoWins]

People find their own forms of meaningless ness regardless of the sex. The universe isn't male, maybe put life into a bigger picture.

[@gaaraxnaru]

​@@TheKingWhoWinsI feel like you should take your own advice, seeing as you are quick to dismiss their perspective.

[@manifest2203]

So true. The way marrge and relationships are set up is future faking and it requires wmn to make sacrifices upfront. Most women don’t get rewarded in the end for the sacrifices they made. That is why Amy’s character is so relatable to woemn.

[@makeupbyjessx13]

Men are so oblivious. All the signs were there for how Nick had screwed up and she gave him sign after sign, opportunity after opportunity to fix it and he always chose himself

[@itaylevin4555]

No way this comment isn't a troll. Are you seriously siding with the psychopathic killer??

[@makeupbyjessx13]

@@itaylevin4555 Did you watch the movie? Lol also, 2 things can be true at the same time… Yes she was more outwardly manipulative but by the end of the film, so was he. He manipulated her into killing her ex and coming home. He only liked himself when he was trying to be someone she wanted. Watch their last argument scene in the movie. And the reason she left him was because he wasn’t the man she originally met. He didn’t hold up his end while she did. He felt she was nagging & emasculating and he used her. Her doing what she did, jolted him.

[@annieothername]

@makeupbyjessx13 Nick absolutely did not manipulate her into killing her ex. She manipulated her to return, yes, but not to murder. Amy was already prepared to kill him because he WAS still dangerously obsessed with her and essentially locked her in the house with 24 hr security. Nick is an awful partner, the worst partner, even. And he is deeply codependent on Amy, be it financially or in the patriarchal sense that having a beautiful “cool girl” wife provided him. Amy was dissatisfied in the relationship and rightfully so…but she could have, like, divorced him? Could have taken that vacation to actually form her identity beyond Perfect Amy. Instead, she plotted for a year and change to wait for Nick to manipulate her in the ways SHE liked, so she could continue manipulating him in the ways HE liked. The two sided truth is that they’re both certifiably insane

[@vicarludens]

@@annieothernameThe real tragedy was that there was never an alternative solution for Amy. Due to her upbringing and forming her sense of self by performing against Amazing Amy, there was no own life for her without Nick or at least not without continuing this draining performance. No own interests or character and the permanent feeling of being judged or looked down on, for trying to find out who she truly is. Same goes for Nick btw. He can repeat his game for younger, inexperienced cool girls who are at their core unhappy with him, until he lacks the resources to do so. They are the best they can get. Not because they deserve each other but for what they become. Only difference is that Amy had the intellect to articulate it somehow for us voyeurs

[@annieothername]

@@vicarludens Yes, I very much appreciate what you're saying! It's what makes the film so gripping, and one of my favorites! I was answering to the ridiculousness of thinking Amy "gave him opportunity after opportunity" which included her voicing her concern, and then resigning herself to his awful decisions. She never gave herself an opporunity. Folks are not destined to misery, especially in partnership with another and nothing about Nick being an awful partner would justify her murderous, void-of-humanity approach. Like...not once, at least in the film, did she attempt medical intervention like therapy, couple or individual, or medication management 😅

[@cent0r]

Ladies: don't do the cool girl. It's ok to like what you like and dislike what you dislike

[@grazielaalmeida8438]

It's ok to not like anal and threesomes 😅

[@Zhanzibar]

Ladies: don't play the cool girl. It'll only put you in the edge of getting hurt and resentful. It's just not worth it.

[@Kiuraish]

Ladies: don't play the cool girl. Those who care don't matter, and those who matter don't care.

[@manifest2203]

Exactly. The way marrge and relationships are set up is future faking and it requires wmn to make sacrifices upfront. Most women don’t get rewarded in the end for the sacrifices they made. That is why Amy’s character is so relatable to woemn. I willl never, ever be the cool girl.

[@trayvontruss7912]

The ending to this movie is terrifying for a thriller

[@tabethmutingwende911]

I concur

[@fromthehaven94]

That poor kid.

[@winterbutterfly8861]

The Cool Girl trope was the first video I ever watched on this channel and I was an instant subscriber

[@khmbm5]

still one of the films that I constantly rewatch, a timeless masterpiece , perfect screenplay ❤️‍🔥

[@GoddesssofMind]

The cool girl monologue was all over Tumblr

[@ljhcmh614]

And people largely missed the point. The“cool girl“ speech is about the ways that we practice self-deception to justify monstrous behavior. She was a liar, who deceived her husband about who she was and then blamed her husband for believing the lie. It was the ultimate example of the perpetrator claiming to be the victim. The fact that so many people actually think the speech reflects some kind of truth or reality is deeply disturbing.

[@bgos4727]

​@@ljhcmh614Wait you believe Nick was the victim? 😂😂 Another thing they were both pretending.

[@emily-crawford-soprano9181]

Omg so here for another Take video with the cool girl speech. Take a shot everyone!

[@belpop]

LOVEEEE this movie. Amy is a psycho but she’s also mother.

[@rosiebowers1671]

I agree. Most relatable movie villain ever. Unambiguously a bad person, and you still root for her with all you have.

[@evaphillips2102]

Girl that makes it worse. No way her kids are gonna grow into nonviolent productive members of society.

[@dreamsteddybearsmaster]

Also, I think the fact they chose the One & Only Rosamund Pike as the notorious Amy Dunn but also Ben Affleck as her philandering and equally obnoxious husband!!! That definitely contributed to the success of the movie after the phenomenal book! Great explanation...your analysis was very articulate and very well thought-out!

[@lkf8799]

Wish you said Gillian Flynn's Gone Girl rather than David Fincher's but otherwise great analysis. Love videos about Amy.

[@keenoled]

But it is his. She wrote the script. It's a Fincher movie.

[@CheziahKatt]

​@@keenoledhe was the director. She wrote the book and the screenplay. He wouldn't have had a movie to make without her.

[@matthewkornder5586]

Technically it's Nick Dunn's Gone Girl but okay..

[@kgomotsosekonya9435]

Book Amy is a bit scarier and a little less relatable. Maybe they decided to focus only on the movie version

[@Ashbrash1998]

​@@khmbm5the author wrote the book and the scriot.

[@banterj]

I enjoyed this …and that bob will always be iconic

[@marvinomarmenjivaralvarez2086]

I don't care what people think, I'll always consider Amy Dunne Elliot as one of my favorite fictional characters ever (If you haven't read the book, please do).

[@julianayala03]

For the master’s tool will never dismantle the master’s house. They may allow us temporarily to beat him at his own game, but they will never enable us to bring about genuine change.”

[@daniellenunes414]

We must confess that we all have an Amy inside of us 😂

[@bibaolaitan5189]

This!!..

[@debbiemoore2747]

Nah. Took years of deprogramming but I'm happier this way.

[@priscilla8068]

"we"? Bish are you French?

[@generalhorse493]

True, I prefer to choose to be my inner Megan from Bridesmaids. I’d rather spend my 30’s living life rather than having to pull off elaborate 5d chess revenge plots

[@BlessO-f8z]

MEEEE

[@JMac7395]

Amy is what some women are internally when they don't properly express what's really going on with them.

[@jesusjavierondo6774]

Amy falsely accused her other boyfriend of abuse and he never did anything to her, he ruined her life

[@marykay7878]

Amy is absolutely evil. Usually women and men who don't express their needs and put themselves last get depressed, not unconscionable

[@manifest2203]

So true. The way marrge and relationships are set up is future faking and it requires wmn to make sacrifices upfront. Most women don’t get rewarded in the end for the sacrifices they made. That is why Amy’s character is so relatable to woemn.

[@BlessO-f8z]

​@@jesusjavierondo6774Desi was a controlling asshole i doubt he didn't do it

[@kayleighdriessen]

Can you guys make a video about society's pressuring expectations on how people should spend their birthday anniversaries, and that it should be normalized that some people prefer to spend their birthday alone or at the very least not hold a big party but only have a select few friends and/family celebrate with them?

[@ananascimento8434]

I support that idea, and add that many people go years without commemorating at all because, well, life happens. Diseases, unemployment, finantial issues, hard work and low pay, family issues, etc.

[@kcbh24]

Why don't you make a video? I'd be interested to see your vision and hear more about your thoughts. Genuine suggestion. If you ever make a video/channel, please share they link here so I can watch.

[@MarkLaw13]

One of the greatest films ever made.

[@mine-fq3zr]

Rosamund Pike COOKED, SERVED, AND DELIVERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@alexcoyg3281]

One of the best movies of 2010s, Fincher is the Maestro of making great films for a large audience, top Director.

[@jenlindley7780]

The best

[@annaliza230]

The book was great too, I highly recommend reading it if you haven’t yet.

[@alexcoyg3281]

@@annaliza230 I did and totally agree, fantastic book. I like that in the book you glimpses of Amy's psychology education

[@cherylhulting1301]

He was really the right director for this film. His cool look and analytical stance were perfect. I usually dread seeing favorite books turned into movies, but Fincher is a solid director. He, author Gillian Flynn and the cast did a great job.

[@XanderShiller]

Amy: "cool girl's fun, cool girl's game.." Henry Hill: "ay you'll like him, he's a good guy, he's a Goodfella.."

[@CristinaGarcia-xx4gy]

I don't think I can ever forget the point in the book where she's watching news coverage of her disappearance on tv and they show a pregnant Noelle bawling her eyes out, convinced her friend's husband really had done something to her, because of all the things Amy had manipulated her into believing were true, and in her head, Amy goes "Good dog!". Nick might've sucked as a husband, but she shouldn't be admired either.

[@cherylhulting1301]

No one's admiring her. We can relate to aspects of Amy's rage and have a certain admiration for her advanced intelligence. But she's a very ill psychopath and that's not sugar coated in the story.

[@DameTara]

Literally half the people in the comments are

[@BlessO-f8z]

Ngl i admire her.

[@dionysisnance4204]

Amy was built different

[@pdzombie1906]

There's something about Amy!! Such a crazy romcom... Jokes aside, we need videos on Joker Folie à Deux (Ending explained, covering why it flopped), and The Substance. Oh, and why Hollywood is dying...

[@Prinzezita21]

Love your videos!!❤ Please please do CLOSER with Natalie Portman and Jude Law pleeeeeease. Love that movie and how portrays the relationships.

[@somelikeitposh]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@bruce4303]

I wrote a review of Closer when I was in my 20s (back when I thought it was necessary to use 40+ exclamation points in things I wrote - UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) But besides that - I thought I really captured the finer points of the dangerous love game our four leads played with each other Great film

[@debbiemoore2747]

The book is amazing. The writing is amazing. Go seems one of the few authentic characters not acting a part. Amy's arrogance at thinking somebody like Greta couldn't outsmart her.

[@cherylhulting1301]

I love that you said that about Go, and you're right. She is the only one in the family who is not acting a part. Which is why Nick needs her and why Go doesn't connect at all with Amy.

[@whodatboi2567]

The Cool Girl is the female version of The Nice Guy.

[@knepri]

'Cool girl' got redefined as a 'pick me'. And no girl wants to be a pick me. Thank god. I'm so glad we have come so far already and I can't wait to see where we go from here! Girls girl for the win - we need to empower other women no matter their choices and distance from men who think women are there for them. Women are there for themselves, not men, ever. Pst. Now women are choosing to NOT BE with men like Nick Dunn instead of changing themselves to have that man. As what did he give her that she didn't have herself? Nothing. He downgraded her life instead of uplifting her. And he was expensive to upkeep as he brought in nothing. Really bad return on investment. I'm so glad women have figured that out and are letting those men go! Most women thrive without men while men hold women down. That - women choosing themselves instead of changing themselves to be with a man - is the greatest stride society has made in the last 10 yrs and I'm all for it.

[@per-c8229]

I also don't see mention it much but I think that a big part of why she comes back in the end is cause she gets her privilege bouble exploted in her face when she is in hiding and gets assaulted and rob, she knew that she didn't have power or control over anyone cause noone care for who she was. It also serves I think as s little nudge from the author that they don't approve of her actions by having her been punished even if in the she gets what she wants.

[@Alina-dw2lg]

Just recently on a podcast I heard a thought that cool girls are highly appreciated by narcissists. Wich I think is true. So we all should own our needs and emotions and state them loud and clear.

[@cherylhulting1301]

But that makes sense, because the Cool Girl is entirely focused on pleasing the male so that he will bestow his approval on her, and she can be seen as "cool." That's exactly what a narcissist would want.

[@Aerie925]

Gone Girl is one of my favorite movies.

[@katarzynafiedor2988]

Please, don't change the thumbnail! Hate that new thumbnails with the purple background.

[@lucg5099]

This story reminds me a lot of Shakira and Piqué. Like It doesnt matter how talented you are, your success, your money, your intelligence, how much you work out and eat well to age incredibly well, being the mother of his children, your history together... He Will change you for a younger more cute girl. Because that's the fucked Up thing for us women, that still today in many cases the only thing that really matters is how hot you are.

[@muscleandhate]

Shakira isn't less cute. They are both beautiful

[@BlessO-f8z]

The girl isn't more cute but i do understand what you mean. Many men have no loyalty

[@karenandrews4224]

It was her money, she could have just left him with nothing

[@cherylhulting1301]

The fact for Nick is that Amy could have destroyed both his and Margo's lives financially through a divorce. But that's not what she wants out of Nick. Amy wants the man she thought she married because she feels entitled to him. But at the same time she needs his gaze, because Amy hasn't a strong enough core sense of self without existing within the gaze of others. The even scarier part is that, to a lesser degree, Nick is the same way. But this isn't meant to be a normal story of betrayal and divorce. It's not meant to follow the typical narrative.

[@mariaskabardonis8353]

The takes favorite lol. I think she’s a fascinating villain who I love to hate but I don’t find her empowering. She could have divorced Nick she didn’t have to resort to illegal methods. She also has a pattern of doing illegal things

[@per-c8229]

Yes! Like with "promising young woman", I don't aspire to be like them but to have the same drive and resolut towards my goals =)

[@nataliaalfonso2662]

It’s so crazy to me how many people who watched the movie totally miss the fact that her exes WERE LYING. This is a person commodified and exploited for fake by her parents, then stalked badly by a super rich dude, then raped by an ex…… And she is insane bc of all of it. She couldn’t just divorce Nick, have to pay him alimony forever to watch him spend it on a teenager. She COULD. But that’s not actually a way to live. It’s why she was actually going to off herself. I think so many people forget that part of the movie too. She was going to end her life. She just wanted to make sure he didn’t get to ride off happily into the sunset afterwards.

[@per-c8229]

@@nataliaalfonso2662 I mean the SA allegations where never proven, and the guy said he didn't, I haven't read the book but in the movie that's what he said and it's not acknowledged after so is left in the open, for the record I believe he was lying and did SA her.

[@mariaskabardonis8353]

All she had to do was go to the dean and say Nick was with a student he would have gotten fired and blacklisted. It wouldn’t lead to him being in jail and she had money she could have married a richer guy. I don’t believe if a guy cheat they deserve that extreme punishment. Plus his sister didn’t deserve her reputation ruined. In promising young women Cassie was at least trying to avenge her friend Amy was selfish. Again I believe the Sa was a lie it wasen’t open ended Amy is a lier

[@itaylevin4555]

@@nataliaalfonso2662 Why do people think that her exes are lying? In fact all we see of Amy is that she is lying all the time. She is a psychopath that constantly lies to get what she wants. Why all of a sudden this is the only time she told the truth? I think people have a hard time accepting this in the movie because it shows the other men as imperfect too and it conflict with the narrative that women never lie about SA but the sad truth is that there are cases like this. Amy doesn't need some origin story about SA. Some people are just evil.

[@djfeelings]

It was hard for me to understand why there is so much empathy out there for the woman character of this movie. It’s even exemplified in the response to this movie versus the response to the Joker. I think those movies are similar, except the stereotypical man goes out and hurts others in discriminately and totally dreg and nuts and terrifying. Where is the woman just hurts herself and seeks to hurt other people through which is just so darn nice and kind poor victim. So stereotypical man terrifying. Stereotypical woman sad victim. Both of them are dangerous.

[@MiniM69]

You’re missing the point. The Joker was a facsimile of every violent male fantasy splashed over the big and small screen for decades; Amy is wrong but we do often see female rage portrayed so publicly…I think people are applauding her gumption for being angry, not the evil elements.

[@inesatt1313]

I understand her,but she should have walked away when she had the chance to do and start a new life,but let hatred consume her

[@cherylhulting1301]

It's not quite as simple as hatred. That's part of it, but it goes deeper into Amy's psyche. So much has to do with her ongoing internalized battle with the "perfect Amy" created by her parents (now THERE'S a messed up pair), her deep insecurities and need for love and approval for herself, and her tendency to romanticize her connection with Nick (there's a little bit of "diary Amy" in her too). She is also involved in a bit of unacknowged competition with Nick as a writer. Amy shields herself in her incredible intelligence, which spawns her arrogance, and in her belief that no one can ever get the best of her. If she does all this, she will transform into Perfect Amy and Nick will not leave her. She'll also exact a quiet revenge against her parents for plagiarizing her childhood. Incredible insecurities, intelligence and arrogance are frequent hallmarks of psychopaths. So imagine the effect on such a woman of seeing that her husband (who is in fact made very insecure by Amy, and fighting his own battle with internalized misogyny over it) finds her replaceable after all. And with a very young woman with nowhere near Amy's intelligence and experience. To a woman this insecure, that's going to feel like total betrayal because she doesn't have a core sense of self outside of how other people see her. As Amy has romanticized her relationship with Nick as an escape from the "loving" control of her parents and of Desi, it's no wonder that she snaps.

[@inesatt1313]

@@cherylhulting1301 I know,but I wished she was appreciated the way she was,and that she went praying instead of exacting vengeance

[@j.martinez8282]

Great flick. Make a great double-feature with "A Shock to the System".

[@elmaasio8736]

Would love your take on It's What's Inside.

[@Greekhistoryyy]

Social media was in that time too

[@djfeelings]

Makes me wonder what she liked about him in the first place.

[@cherylhulting1301]

Amy liked the way Nick made her feel about herself. He has charm at the start of their relationship. Nick craved the attention and approval of such a beautiful and brilliant woman. Nick struggles to free himself from how much his father hates women, and perfect Amy will surely never give him reason to lash out. Right? If you asked me if they were ever authentically in love with each other, I would probably say no.

[@djfeelings]

@@cherylhulting1301 i’ve watched this video so many times because it bothered me how anybody could empathize with the woman. But I gotta say it’s a hard truth to swallow that while women are generally made to do everything all the time, be the stereotypical woman and the stereotypical man, men are just supposed to be nice and be quiet and not hurt anybody. Nick feels better the smaller he makes himself which grows Aimée’s resentment because she thought she married a real man who liked her for her. Turns out she also married an archetype. It’s a cautionary tale. Thanks for responding.

[@Greekhistoryyy]

It was the finest movie

[@MK-gv1wd]

Ahhh. The cool girl. Now the “pick me”. And wow that has not changed. I love the book and movie so much. Even now.

[@grazielaalmeida8438]

Becouse it become a classic.

[@Superstar8-24]

Just want to point out the C word was not censored. Don’t want the video to get taken down or anything if that means anything

[@VeronicaSlavova]

Amy was right 😌

[@yusecond6879]

1stttt commenttt! Loveeee Thisss movieee

[@soapaddict09]

Book is sooo much better.

[@yusecond6879]

@@soapaddict09 oh really. Never really read the book. But yes heard it's good too.

[@biancaintensa]

Y'all are insaneeee for relating to Amy Dunne ahaha ??? What the hell

[@ricovargas9775]

Early in the movie at the beginning of the party scene when Amy said, "I met a boy. A great, sweet, gorgeous, cool-ass guy," it was over for me when her and Nick began criticizing the other guys at the party. For all the talk of the Cool Girl, know one brings up that Amy wanted a Cool Guy. I'm not sorry for how her life ended up as she actively chose her demise.

[@cherylhulting1301]

Amy wanted the Cool Guy, yes. But the larger problem for Amy and Nick is that they couldn't live outside each other's almost craven need for approval. Neither was strong enough in their own senses of self to exist without that need.

[@vaishnavigupta9111]

nick was repulsive

[@cherylhulting1301]

He is. And even more so in the novel. And Amy is no picnic herself.

[@keenoled]

David Fincher continues to be a mf genius. Can't understand why not some billionaire out there is throwing production money at Mindhunter, that's what I would do instead of buying more boats.

[@sarahcristina4656]

Day 2 of asking The Take to do a video about arab stereotypes in media

[@isabelfernandes778]

💜💜💜

[@janatomlin1296]

I’m gonna go on a rant here because I HATED Joe’s sister!! She was so jealous of Amy’s money just like her brother. She IS the cool girl that guys say they want, but she actually looks like the effects of being “one of the guys” so they overlook her for Amy. While talking shit about their bitchy hot girlfriend to her ALL THE TIME!!And she just sits there and listens and doesn't call them out on their bullshit. Always giving a man of shoulder to cry on no he doesn’t deserve it and ignoring the other woman because she’s jealous and “she doesn’t owe Amy anything.“ This partly why it's a man’s world even though as women we've already proven that they are a want in our lives, and not a need as long as we have each other. That's my first rant. The second rant is a really nerdy-** I saw a comment where someone compared Amy to the Joker. And I busted out laughing and agreed until I really thought about it… Amy’s not the female, she’s actually the female Batman because not only is she crazy enough to kill someone for “Justice” she has the fucking money to back herself up, she’s actually fucking batman! which ended up making me rethink how cool the Joker was because I don’t even know if the Joker was rich enough to do all the shit that he was doing and he still outsmarted him multiple times!

[@ruzzelladrian907]

After reading the book and watching the movie, I still aspire to be like Amy to this day.

[@BioshadowX]

Uncommunicative, sociopathic, and a bitch to herself and other women? Wow what a future we have to look forward to.

[@itaylevin4555]

I really hope you will never find a partner then. These comments are actually concerning.

[@cherylhulting1301]

Um, I get the desire to throw off the shakles of the leaden expectations of men. But beyond that, Amy is no role model.

[@cherylhulting1301]

​@@itaylevin4555 How so?

[@BlessO-f8z]

​@@BioshadowXother women? What are you talking about amy is not a pick me girl

[@adajosefinemoe1866]

I love Gone girl, but HATE the part when she fakes the sexual assault from Desi. There was no reason to include such a tired and dangerous trope, especially since his character was creepy already and could have easily ACTUALLY done it, so why fake it?

[@alexcoyg3281]

Its a YOU problem

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

Because Amy is a villain through and through. Desi might be a villain in his own right but he's not at par with Amy. Another reason he couldn't actually do it was that it was against his white knight fantasy. Amy is an antagonist, we're not supposed to think of her as 'righteous'. She radiates feminine rage but is not a feminist, she's mentally ill. It goes perfectly with her character to falsey accuse him to get to what she wants.

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

Because Amy is a villain through and through. Desi might be a villain in his own right but he's not at par with Amy. Another reason he couldn't actually do it was that it was against his white knight fantasy. Amy is an antagonist, we're not supposed to think of her as 'righteous'. She radiates feminine rage but is not a feminist, she's mentally ill. It goes perfectly with her character to falsey accuse him to get to what she wants.

[@TheRaddishKing]

This comment says you don't fully understand the type of character Amy is. She literally drains the "just right" amount of blood from her body to push the narrative that a murder took place. Amy cracked her cheekbone with a hammer to resemble domestic abuse. She clearly is willing to go through any step she deems necessary to make a narrative, the bottle is no different. These men absolutely have negative, toxic traits but aren't those people entirely which is why she has to intervene and fill those gaps.

[@nessnness]

Yeah, Amy is indeed a psychopath and is actually in this case only revealing how awful these men are even when they pretend to themselves they are great guys. He definitely deserved what he got.

[@adamhawn2523]

If the Gone Girl novel wasn’t inspired by the Scott & Laci Peterson story, I’d be shocked.

[@StrongAndfeminine]

Why is it so dangerous to give men their revenge fantasies against women

[@dawnstarrlookingelk2895]

She is me

[@niladrihoq1423]

They shouldn't create these facade, if men won't then women should do the same, and we should all try to understand each other.

[@franzgemota8425]

You treat Amy Dunne as if she’s a hero in your story

[@SunShine-qk4rb]

I love this movie

[@wendisparadeofperfumes5034]

The couple at the motel were smarter than her. I thought it was interesting that once she hit the "real world" she couldn't get though. She immediately failed.

[@BlessO-f8z]

The couple wasn't really smarter she was just in a vulnerable situation

[@wendisparadeofperfumes5034]

@BlessO-f8z They read right through her. It was interesting that she could put on an act and fool everyone else except for them.

[@angeliprimlani9389]

I don’t relate to Amy Dunne and having it stated with such authority that we all relate to her makes me feel alienated and sad. I simply never faked being who I am to catch a man and then hated him for it. I do recognize that a lot of women do that but I don’t think that’s exactly a good thing. I’ve never really done that at least not since high school… But then I sound like I’m saying I’m Not Like the Other Girls. Except being an NLOG is also supposed to be about being a fake person to catch a man, except instead of hating the man you hate the other women who won’t be a fake person to catch a man…. Wait I think I’m uncovering a theme…. I guess I just FLUNKED BEING A CISGENDERED WOMAN then. Because being fake is apparently essential to the cis woman experience. Or maybe “we” don’t relate to Amy Dunne, just some of you do. It’s not a universal thing, just a certain kind of thing.

[@cherylhulting1301]

I do and dont relate to Amy. I'll explain both. I don't relate to Amy because her biggest problem is that she has a weak core sense of self. She's brilliant, beautiful, talented and capable. These should be qualities in which a healthy woman can start to develop her own core sense of self. But Amy spent her childhood competing for her parents' affection with an idealized version of herself. And one that children everywhere adored as well. What a situation. Amy feels compelled by her parents' little judgments to live up to this icon constantly. That's going to mess with the mind of even a stronger person, let alone someone functioning with a mental illness. I'm glad that a correspondent pointed out that Amy actually did endure abusive relationships that shaped her. Her relationship with her parents is actually pretty toxic. Her parents can't see their lovely real daughter. They can only see the creation they made of her. Then she endured the unhealthy relationship with Desi, a controlling manipulator who did much the same thing. Amy was the abused person who then became the abuser herself. I believe she began to lash out before she met Nick, and I believe the story of her former lover in the bar is true. But easy, charming Nick Dunne made few demands of Amy and seemed to love her for who she was. Her psychopathy and suppressed hurt stilled for a time. But it resurrected itself in her suppressed anger at being dragged to Missouri and then blazed out again when she found out about Nick's affair. We can understand her pain and sense of betrayal. But healthy people aren't so locked in battle with their partners that they would even think of going to such lengths to plan a revenge. The fact that Amy plotted her revenge and then planned to kill herself to kill Nick too (via death penalty) tells us just how far off the deep end Amy has fallen. I do relate to Amy in that I was tested as gifted when young and that does put a lot of pressure on you. I've always wondered, though, if Amy's under-employment writing Cosmo quizzes was an attempt to rebel; she could have done much more with her psychology degree. But most of all, I relate to her in the Cool Girl speech. Many women do. Even if you reject trying to be the Cool Girl and meeting the demands of the male gaze, it's always visibly around you. This is wearying for women in having to deal with men. The unspoken pressure to do Cool Girl or be replaced by a younger model who will can lead to a lot of hurt and anger for women. Cool Girl makes women feel like they can't ever be themselves around so many men and be loved, and who needs that?

[@angeliprimlani9389]

@@cherylhulting1301 Okay but … why do all of you want to be around men who don’t love you when you’re being yourselves? Why is that a thing people want?

[@beardpapa12]

@@angeliprimlani9389 I think that society keeps demanding women not have standards and I've heard of women who've gotten away from that kind of thinking talk about how their own mothers (and certain subcultures) wanted her to tolerate a ton of bullshit like do way more chores and help parent the younger siblings (especially if the siblings are boys and she's the oldest), and push her to please men and have babies. I also think that a lot more men are Nick Dunne than people want to admit. The laziness, the entitlement and the whole "I want the younger, bouncier cool girl" factor. Not evil but they should NOT be getting married. Nowadays, more and more women are choosing 4B instead (where they just step away from men in general) and I personally think that's the better route.

[@MiniM69]

@@angeliprimlani9389Because society doesn’t want women who are themselves…otherwise, being ambitious and career driven would be applauded, all models and women in Hollywood wouldn’t be double zeros and Brazilian wacws wouldn’t be a thing. Women are told, implicitly and explicitly, that being themselves is just not enough. This insecurity props up many very lucrative enterprises and won’t change collectively any time soon.

[@annieothername]

Folks finding Amy justified shows yall really will let a beautiful white woman get away with anything if you can sympathize with her enough. I say that jokingly but also with a call for reflection… Race is a plot point, particularly in the film as the only character of color is Tanner Bolt, the defense lawyer flown in from New York on a $100,000 retainer. Missing White Women Syndrome was/is often mentioned in reviews of this film because of so much of her ability to get away with these things as the level of plausible deniability and good faith extended in the overwhelming media coverage on the case. To the point of parodying Nancy with a character that sustains a prime time career just speculating the wildest things because everyone tunes in for the Missing Suburbanite. It’s fine if you decide not to see this dimension of the film or reflect on why you’re so ready to dub Amy as righteous and deserving, but I think it’s an important piece to reflect on. That ultimately, yall are no different from Nick for believing this extreme is worth it and everything will work out.

[@DBat-sp1tp]

There is nothing cute or funny when relating to this kind of person. She was a monster. If the tables were turned and the movie was about a man doing the same things to his cheating wife people would say the same thing. Just get a freaking divorce.

[@BlessO-f8z]

Wooosh

[@itaylevin4555]

Amy is becoming like the femcel version of Joker. I can't believe I have to say this to you but YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SIDE WITH THE PSYCHOPATHIC KILLER. Amy is not an "anti-hero", she's the antagonist. Nick, like other men in the movie (and in real life), is deeply flawed, but Amy is a freaking monster. He is the victim, and in the end he is also her prisoner.

[@bgos4727]

He is deeply flawed? He is a different type of monster in my eyes, how he can go and ruin someone's life and believe he will go off with a slap on the wrist

[@annieothername]

You’re absolutely right. Joker or Christian Bateman. I thought it was a “we stan a problematic queen” type of fandom which I can respect, but folks here are really calling her aspirational. She hated herself and continually self-harmed, let alone hating everyone else and harming them. Nothing about her is empowering or an anti-hero

[@aycaaltay9929]

I so agree. Just like joker, this psycho is glorified so much. There is a big jump from cheating, being resentful and manipulative to framing people for murder and slashing people. As a woman, I can’t understand how those characters are relatable.

[@lesedinkhambula8380]

He also didn't take anything. She gave it. No one mentions that she could just leave. She came from money. She was looking after him. She could have just stopped

[@makeupbyjessx13]

@@itaylevin4555 I’m sorry about whatever woman/women in your past hurt you whether it was a relationship or family member but all your opinions & comments on this channel are very one-sided and emotionally-based. I hope you’re able to heal from your pain & understand why women react the way they do when men act & do the things they do, most of the time with complete disregard for the effect on their partner. We don’t just fly off the handle for the fun of it. Even Amy needed to be “triggered” by the men before the crazy in her came out and she hatched her plans. While her reaction was extreme, a reaction wasn’t unwarranted for the way she was treated otherwise she is the victim, like we see in the beginning, and that’s what I feel like you miss in all your takes. Keep in mind, he CHOOSES to stay with her at the end and they have an entire conversation why. He may not like the consequences of either choice however he has free will to leave on his own and makes his own choice so he is never her prisoner or victim.

[@Filmation77]

3:18 11/5/24

[@ashleightompkins3200]

I genuinely have to wonder what would have happened if Amy had a child?

[@debbiemoore2747]

Spoiler she does in the book

[@ashleightompkins3200]

@@debbiemoore2747 No, I mean what would happen in a potential sequel. She's pregnant at the end of the book, but I wonder how she'd go about raising a child

[@debbiemoore2747]

@ashleightompkins3200 yeh that thought did cross ,you mind too. Sorry for misunderstanding what you put

[@ashleightompkins3200]

@debbiemoore2747 Not to worry. I feel like she would purposefully miscarry just so she can keep grabbing attention. She doesn't seem the type to be able to handle raising a child she can't control. If it's a girl, would she hate her for being perfect (in everyone else's eyes) or would she raise her to be a clone of herself through the same emotional neglect her own parents put her through? What if it's a boy? There's a lot of questions to be asked here.

[@cherylhulting1301]

I'm scared to death for that child, being raised in such a toxic and co dependent household.

[@BioshadowX]

The difference in how you cover Amy vs the Joker is fascinating despite them being gender opposites, a man and a woman ground down by societal expectations and feeling like they are forced to the extreme. Hmmm

[@SpongeBobSquarePantsNickJr]

Men need to think twice about betraying a woman; she might destroy or kill him. Karma comes for us all. 😮

[@StrongAndfeminine]

What sells instead of what's true like bill Cosby micheal Jackson being rps and JO still being guilty

[@MadYunie00]

Are you crazy? She is a psycho and he is a victim of abuse, there is no excuse or justification.

[@nataliaalfonso2662]

I don’t think you understood the book or movie. She had been exploited since a child, stalked and abused badly by the very rich ex (the one who kidnapped and sequestered her), raped by the other ex who takes this opportunity to “prove” she had been lying (she wasn’t.) And then she had her entire life savings bled dry by a dude FUCKING A TEENAGER. She’s the victim of abuse. Now, did she WIN at abusing him afterwards? Yeah, of course. Bc she’s smarter. But he definitely actually abused her first. Not in the way she invented. But that’s the whole point of the movie right? If she had tried to tell anyone, even a divorce lawyer, all the actual ways he was abusing her, no one would give a shit. She had to pretend he was a more typical brutish woman beater of a pregnant woman. Bc society doesn’t recognize severe long term financial and emotional and psychological abuse and the rape by fraud of infidelity for what it is. Remember her whole plan was to END HER LIFE. She wasn’t kidding. She only decided to stay alive when she started to forgive him bc of what he said on tv.

[@itaylevin4555]

@@nataliaalfonso2662 Oh no. This is actually becoming a femcel movie. This is like the feminist version of Joker. How the hell are people siding with the psychopathic killer just because Nick is an asshole. I don't think YOU understood the message of the film because that's exactly what it tries to critique.

[@bgos4727]

HE IS THE VICTIM OF ABUSE? He put his hands on her, cheated on her, used all his money, destroyed her life but he is the victim? He got f KARMA

[@MadYunie00]

@@nataliaalfonso2662 you guys are actually serious. The whole point is that you side with her until you understand they had a fake, manipulative relationship (from her side), that's the whole twist of the movie. With her idea of perfection she faked being a whole other person in their time together and when he was getting tired of her (that happens people, either if you are a psycho manipulative killer or a totally normal person), she pressured him to stay together in any possible way, arriving to the crazy punishment she planned. In the end SHE FORCES HIM TO STAY TOGETHER AND HAVE A PREGNANCY. If you have empathy in the end you feel for him, you imagine ways he could escape, in many ways his twin represents the audience. It's not Promising Young Woman, it was never meant to be a feminist movie. The fact you people read it this way is concerning.

[@MadYunie00]

@@bgos4727 so if a woman decide to leave her partner for another man after cheating, any action he takes against her, no matter how illegal, is karma, is that right?

[@ljhcmh614]

Saying that the “cool girl” is a “facade a woman feels she needs to put up to be accepted” is such a cop out. Let’s call it what it is: a deception. She is lying in order to win the approval of the man she wants. And then she has the nerve to turn around and blame him for believing her lie. She is the villain, pure and simple. Stop blaming “society.“ If a woman wants to be taken seriously, then she needs to take responsibility for the choices she makes. She needs to be honest. The idea that the man who is being deceived is somehow the culprit is honestly disgusting.

[@makeupbyjessx13]

The point you’re missing is that while yes she wanted him in the beginning and they were happy at the start of their relationship, he slowly changed, got lazy, they moved and he didn’t hold up his end while she was still holding up hers and being what he wanted, which was illustrated in the film. He didn’t see/hear her needs and ignored her. She would try to bring things up to him and he would see it as emasculating and nagging. He also cheated on her. Eventually they were both lying to one another but she had already made her decision and was steps ahead of him because she knew he wasn’t going to change so she had to

[@MadYunie00]

@@makeupbyjessx13 why so many people think what amy does is normal? Everyone has a mask at the beginning, and in time your mask fades, you get comfortable. She is not "making an effort", she is being disconnected by constantly lying, and that's one of the reason he grows tired with her (if we want to play that silly game of who's to blame). And anyway, being perfect doesn't mean you deserve to be loved, people have the right to make mistake , being lazy and walk away from you without the fear of revenge.

[@cherylhulting1301]

Nope. You don't understand that the pressure to be "perfect" to be "accepted" is very real for women. A woman chooses to reject it or to accept and try to conform to it. But it's always there. And it's not the responsibility of women that it exists. That's on the programming of patriarchy. So let's see the men take some responsibility for constructing the situation. Amy is a psychopath, yes. But she's also the smartest person in the story, which Tanner Bolt points out. Being mentally ill after an abusive childhood and adolescence doesn't mean that Amy's observations about how the game is played are wrong. Psychopaths are frequently intelligent and insightful. What they lack are healthy core senses of seif and empathy.

[@ljhcmh614]

​@@cherylhulting1301 The pressure to be "prefect" and "accepted" is real for EVERYONE. Do you think men don't experience that? Men commit suicide at three times the rate of women so, yeah, we understand all about societal pressure to conform or be rejected. But more importantly, just because there is "pressure" to do something doesn't mean you have no choice. Amy indulges in the same self-delusion as the abusive husband who beats his wife: "You left me no choice. I HAD to hurt you. You pushed me too far. It's your own fault." No, it isn't (in either case). She could have been honest from the beginning -- or at any point after that. She could have walked away when things became unsalvageable. But she had to have her revenge. And she used the "cool girl" narrative to manufacture a justification for her anger rather than acknowledging that it was her own deception and dishonesty that was the root of her problems -- not his "cool girl" expectations.

[@helloyou6192]

We think Amy is normal because her anger is normal. What she does with her anger is not normal. ​@@MadYunie00

[@evaphillips2102]

Amy was a narcissist period. If you lied to a man to get his interest that is YOUR fault. YOU are selfish. STOP doing that. Being a woman doesn’t absolve you from being an awful person.

[@BlessO-f8z]

How did you miss everything? They were bith faking

[@NellyNutmeg]

As a woman this movie doesn't resonate with me. The monolog is good, but the rest is too much masculine gaze or whatever from the director. It doesn't have replay value like a lot of movies I like with female leads

[@jamielancaster01]

I married the ‘cool girl’ in 91’’. 4 kids & 34 yrs later my best friend is still the ‘cool girl’👸🏼❤

[@JJ-xs9me]

The bigger question is, do you still love her even when she does things that aren’t cool? What makes her cool to you?

[@kedrprao]

Amy’s fury only resonates with feminists and women who got played by their man. 😂

[@cherylhulting1301]

No. It resonates with any woman who is wearied by the constant expectations of parents, men and society to always be perfect. You don't have to be a feminist to feel that. Feminism makes one more analytical about it.

[@smorre4004]

@@cherylhulting1301 Ironic given that Amy does the things she does because Nick does not meet her expectations of what a man should be. Nick should have manned up but for women expectations are bad apparently

[@BlessO-f8z]

You need a chill pill

[@paisan8766]

Can’t believe youse are still obsessed with this psychopath

[@maisonleigh4724]

Is Amy a psychopath? Yes. But I think just about every woman can relate to how she feels when she finds out Nick was cheating on her and planning to leave her. Never be cool girl ladies, if the signs are there, dip before they can dip on you. It’ll save you a lot of time and emotional drainage.

[@helloyou6192]

Nick cheating is so common.

[@BlessO-f8z]

​@helloyou6192 yeah we need more Amy's

[@derogatory69]

insane to say social media wasnt a big thing 10 years ago

[@Tinkerbe11]

I could never really relate to Amy, and I'm a woman. I am rather furious, because she is one of the reasons, that female victims of abuse often are not believed or victim-shamed. "Oh, she just wants to frame him..." And really abusive women in real life have also copied from her. She had issues with her own life and et somebody else suffer for it. She is despicable, and it scares me that you almost portray her as a role model in this video.

[@aprilpeters8620]

If this scares u, then u should probably stay off the internet.

[@Tinkerbe11]

@@aprilpeters8620 It may surprise you, but people who get their affirmation that being evil is a good thing from the internet, exist in real life as well, and they keep being evil in real life.

[@priscilla8068]

She's an attractive white woman so of course they'll glorify her and act like she was the victim. They never give men or people of colour the same grace. It's disgusting how many people are siding with Amy, even though it's fictional this reflects what happens in real life.

[@angeliprimlani9389]

Agreed.

[@helloyou6192]

Gurl you really think a fake girl is the reason why no one believes women when we talk about domestic violence. Are you here in real world? Over all society doesn't care about women.