Goratha's Bleed Eviscerate Retaliation Glad Day 4-5 UPDATE! Bleed Tincture is INSANE!

Hey guys! Sorry for the slow update, not much changed in day 3+4, but I made some big changes to the build yesterday so I figured I would give you guys an update! Blood magic is gone and bleed tincture is added along with Malevolence.
As always if you guys want to follow along you can at / goratha
POB: pobb.in/mXhbaA...
Twitch: / goratha
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[@brunorocha7587]

You saved my league start sir. This build slaps. Thank you!

[@ploco8]

In Goratha We Trust

[@Giefmindscape]

yay i was following your vids for this build and its been great, thanks for update!

[@somaaree]

You dont need Ancestral vision for ailment immnuty , you can get it through Shield Mastery "20% to chance to avoid ailment immunity" + 1 roll on the boots or sheild with 35% ailment avoidence the rest are coming for life+ ailment wheel that is already on the build

[@runvus]

Maybe my math isn't mathing, but the roll on boots/shield is 35%, then 20% from mastery, then 20% from the avoid/life wheel. Where are you finding the other 25%? Edit: Ah you are including the enchant also on top of that. Gotcha now.

[@extraneous3408]

@@runvus enchant?

[@Forcejuuso]

@@runvus What enchant gives ailment immunity?

[@Mercenary08]

You are insane my dude, thank you for this project, been alot of fun

[@xShamex]

Thanks goratha. This is by far the tankiest build I've ever played, the damage is also very good considering the amount of currency I've used. I guess the next big step should be ryslatha and light of meaning, very fun build tbh..

[@ryckett]

Love the build, keep pumping out videos!

[@jasonnichols6728]

im working on something similar. leaning more too the retaliations for now. something i noticed one of your armor masteries still has evasion per frenzy. it dissent look like your using them anymore. maby from an earlier version. if im off , sorry, just figured every point helps.

[@Kaienowaty]

Bloodstorm is better than lacerate ? ( Or meyby earthquake).

[@spitzhorneule]

The Surrender could also give a lot of life recovery. No elemental resist and quite low life on shield slot though

[@brofst]

How have you felt about war banner usage in practice? I find that it's a huge DPS boost in PoB, but in actual PoE it's hard to build up enough valor stacks, and when you do pop it it's 10 seconds and done. I find that I don't really need it even for map bosses and the like (where it's easiest to build up), and for pinnacle bosses (where you'd benefit most from it) you may not be able to stand still for the full 10 seconds in the AoE, plus it's pretty annoying to build up.

[@Goratha]

Yeah, it's pretty limited but it does provide a big boost if you can press it at a good time. (usually only pressing it on bosses like you said though)

[@jemon_D]

I built on an ancient stompbox using a 4 socket resonator, and in principle it's much better than the jack.

[@brofst]

Would you consider petrified blood once we get a shaper life on block shield?

[@TheKnightJeff]

Hey, this saved my bleed lacerate build, has been going great so far, but I'm struggling getting tanky enough doing t13s and especially against spell casters (how do you get the blocks reliable enough to cast evicerate/crushing fist) I find myself sometimes dashing around trying to hope to block smth to be able to cast any attacking spell. Any advice here? Am I just too squishy/not res capped or is there a non-retaliate spell im supposed to be using in between?

[@lzniR]

Are you blocked cap? 68/65 should be the numbers on your tooltip so it would be 90/88 when lucky procs.

[@joshchilton2336]

Hey mate not sure if missed but have you been able do Uber Elder pretty well ?

[@wasacotte]

Late to the party, started yesterday. Completed the campaign. Cool build. What do you guys think about using Titucius' Span Reinforced tower shield?

[@TheCosmicAstro-]

Will we get an update for the league start pob? Since the pob right now doesnt have any of the retaliation gems(especially not for leveling) and im guessing things have changed for an ideal new character scenario. Plus in all cases even manually inputting eviscerate+giving it 6 linked gems that match your new pob, there is no point where it does more DPS than sunder by an insane margin.

[@maxkostelecky510]

level with sunder and one hand axe with shield and switch to it if u have 3 labs done I made the switch after the 2nd lab and it worked too

[@TheCosmicAstro-]

@@maxkostelecky510 Im mostly referring to the minutia of the build alongside why sunder does 4-5x the dps in PoB than eviscerate. Want to figure out whats wrong in pob lol

[@roccopietrangelo5122]

My eviscerate does not work with the tincture. I have blood sap tincture, but pob shows it does not increase damage while active?

[@alexmaagna]

hi man, using your pob for lvling with sunder 6l + 4l retaliation, u think this new pob is better than your first one? should i switch to 6l ret? thank you man

[@Shuja_R1M]

How do you craft that tincture? I can't seem to get X% increased damage while bleeding and my implicit stays at "...with melee weapons." But yours has 1 of t hose 2 implicit missing replaced with "142% increased damage with bleeding."

[@Camerault]

Just so you know, the tincture effect mod is not working properly in PoB. The program applies the 35% effect (which you can check by removing that line specifically) but the numerical values of the other mods are already modified by that 35%. So PoB basically calculates 1.35*1.35 effect modifier instead of just 1.35. That explains why it shows so much DPS in PoB. In reality it's more like 75% more damage. Which is still insane btw

[@drunkndrivr]

my tincture doesn't show any dps increase with tinctures, do you have an idea as to why?

[@midknightcrisis8612]

​@@drunkndrivr did you checkmark the tincture? They're not checked (read: on) by default in PoB just like flasks

[@drunkndrivr]

@@midknightcrisis8612 i did

[@MrDeathswap]

@@drunkndrivr Do you still have Blood Magic? I don't think Tinctures would work with it as you don't have any mana to burn.

[@bman3542]

@@MrDeathswap you can with bloodsoaked blade keystone, but the tincture goratha is using in the pob doubles my dps when i add it to my build, where as when i import a similar tincture from in game it doesn't increase dps much at all in pob

[@caldepen372]

Thanks for this. As a replacement for Vitality and its reservation concerns, replace it with a Stone Golem on the CWDT. It will stay alive most of the time and be recast when you need it. Provides decent regen no?

[@Goratha]

i am not a fan of minions since they can be targeted by boss abilities and get you killed, but ya you could do that

[@HaydenSamuelson]

You should make a complete updated pob from level 1 to finish with them detailed notes you do. Please

[@brofst]

How did you craft your amulet? I thought talismans dropped corrupted?

[@Skily7777]

There's a beastcraft that turns your amulet into a talisman, it was a mana reg base before

[@DS-or3yt]

For the build after finish the campaign i can take this pob?

[@christiangerharz4695]

Which Atlas trees do you run?

[@Shuja_R1M]

Can you share your Atlas build?

[@Kaienowaty]

Question, You nearly not use crushing fist, its rly worth?

[@Redharp]

Im running similar tree for my Lacerate glad but im using 4L Earthquake for clear. Do you think Bladestorm on 4 link would be better to clear? Edit:nvm Flicker>multi>splash>brutality Destroys 70% of the map in seconds leaving only yellows to lacerate :)

[@willdevine8266]

blade storm is so ass, he's just using it because it hits a lot to proc aggravates.

[@PelicanOfWar]

Was looking for something other than shield charging through packs since it left to many behind. Flicker is working out great, good recommendation!

[@Shuja_R1M]

Bro thanks for this build. I've respecced and leveled multiple characters. This has by far been the most smooth and fun. At first, I thought it played boring but boy was I wrong. Do you have a good filter for this?

[@ariyako]

put Goratha name on filterblade profile

[@Shuja_R1M]

@@ariyako cheers bro

[@ZxBlasphemy]

You mention that CRUSHED boosts bleed damage... how? PDR doesn't affect bleed dps. When testing in POB, clicking 'crushed' does not affect my bleed DPS at all. Am I missing something?!

[@Goratha]

when maps have phys damage reduction or endurance charges, or monsters have high base armor - they take less damage from bleed and crushed reduces that

[@brofst]

Do you still recommend going through midgame/early maps with blood magic?

[@Goratha]

I would swap earlier I think, but mana might be hard for pride/malevolence

[@andyfibb]

people are saying no forgiveness and the thing in the ascendency do not stack?? its bugged they say? is that true

[@Goratha]

it does stack, it's very noticeable

[@LeoPerantoni]

Thoughts on using crushing fist x vengeful cry? Ive been running vengeful cry for the extra damage boost from the max rage it gives and its been working really well. But i want to give a shot at crushing fist too, i just need to find where to fit the 4 sockets it requires

[@PeadlyDaradox]

Rage doesn't amplify the damage of the bleed, only the on-hit portion.

[@LeoPerantoni]

@@PeadlyDaradox oh damn I didn't know that. I thought that bigger hit = bigger bleed. Thanks for letting me know.

[@karmoth6666]

I dont know where to start this build 😢

[@Goratha]

Shield Crush + momentum + chance to bleed early on, at level 16 you can start using eviscerate. Once you get normal lab get versatile combatant + cap your block through tree and eviscerate starts to come online with the AOE retaliate nodes. Cruel lab + measured retaliation you can drop shield crush and use bladestorm for utility, eviscerate should be proccing a lot now.

[@joewilus3281]

how do you run pride, vitality and malevolence at the same time without having mana issues even with the mana support

[@pspsps2741]

Arrogance on vitality

[@somaaree]

Is there anyway to boost the single target for this build ? I took me 5-7 minutes to kill the story Searing exarch , i am using perfectly rolled bleed tincture btw

[@davylauchnor7649]

I swap in lacerate and respec from retal to %dmg per sec ascendency for big bosses

[@ak_getright9905]

War of attrition for bossing

[@MohamadSafia-k5b]

can you please write in your character notes . what panethon we should consider ? Also regarding bandits have you dropped Alira for an extra point later on ?

[@SnareEffect]

He literally talked about the pantheon...

[@MohamadSafia-k5b]

@@SnareEffect maybe i missed that part . Thanks for info.

[@Kaienowaty]

Why not pulverise in eviscirate...? Dmg and aoe..

[@Goratha]

doesn't scale bleed

[@fergus1564]

Did You kill the bandits or help them?

[@Goratha]

helped alira

[@Popmycherryyo]

Hmm.. No wonder I'm not doing that great. Here I was anointing Heavy Draw and thinking it was BiS

[@GhostHyperhex]

1. He explicitly said not to do that. He just picked up an amulet that was good for him that happened to have that annointed. 2. If you look at the annoint, you would see that it doesn't help the character.

[@Popmycherryyo]

@@GhostHyperhex I know, I know :P It was a joke.. It's not the reason, the reason is I'm just bad :P

[@ak_getright9905]

What is this anointing thing I keep hearing about

[@Popmycherryyo]

@@ak_getright9905 You can anoint those big points (are they called keystones?) on the passive tree, through using currency/oils you get from Blight. They are anointed on the neck. Basically, put big point from passive tree onto amulet. So no need to spec it on the tree or waste points to get to it. Hope that explained it well enough :P

[@ylimsalam1]

melee hit have 15% chance to fortify corruption on jack the axe will let you spec out of crushing reply AND fortify support my guy

[@Goratha]

wouldn't be reliable enough for fortify uptime

[@ylimsalam1]

@@Goratha i'm doing right now and 1evicerate is 20 stack instant. not so bad either for single surprisingly

[@TheEluminator]

Pog

[@courtingdeath3364]

There is a retaliation mastery with -40% mana cost reduction. You probably already new but it give a more than the mana node.

[@Goratha]

ye - the main reason for that is the mana mastery + retaliation masteries are so good

[@x710xTitan]

Honestly i never ended up going blood magic for this build i slotted it looked at my hp and had 800 hp from my normal 3.2k so i wouldve been stunned by everything xD just fixed my mana the best i could tbh cleared all 4 bosses for voidstones and sirius. I also got the perfect jewel shipment- CB IMMUNITY+MELEE DMG+DOT DMG 😅 thanks tujen

[@ejun251]

light of meaning now 18 div lol

[@Artistanooss]

Well I don’t think it’s much when it comes to upgrade it provides

[@PeneLoco17cm]

ILL PLAY ONCE THIS FILTHY HOLLYWOODGOERS STOP INCREASING THE PRICES

[@PeneLoco17cm]

@@Artistanooss YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THEM

[@PeneLoco17cm]

ill blame the ones from hollywood

[@SnareEffect]

Glad I yoinked one for 11div, damn

[@Genemesis]

meanwhile archmage icenova guide still cast speed suffix flask no update :dedxd:

[@StoychoBalchev]

No Forgiveness & Measured Retaliation BUGGED btw ...

[@TheFirestar2323]

Bro, start reading patch notes, it's already been fixed for quite some time...

[@andyfibb]

why cant i find no forgiveness on the skill tree in game??? "hidden" passives? what a troll game for no reason, only googlers allowed apparently.