Gotham Knights Is a Terrible Video Game...

[@SomeOrdinaryGamers]

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[@cupgunner]

No

[@DarthVaderthe3rd]

Okay

[@unonumero123]

No

[@GameCasting]

Ok

[@mr_man-to7bv]

No

[@SHOWEM]

Imagine chilling with mutah kicking it back then he suddenly starts turning to his camera like that and starts recording

[@Thankuforsubing]

That was funny. This guy is random.

[@mrcsee6936]

gives off big Dahmer vibes. If you want to make this video even better, pretend that you're in a hostage situation and Muta just started to rant about this game out of nowhere

[@mr.crowgamer6250]

Omg imagine dude stfu

[@thedankgnasty1890]

@@Thankuforsubing random? Nah. Great? Yeah.

[@txtrill986]

He’s not even recording, just talking to himself

[@DOOMStudios]

When they announced this game I kept my expectations very low and I was not disappointed. When they showed the gameplay for this I just wasn’t sold on it at all.

[@yourlocalchaosgoddess]

@YeaMan page* also, muta doesn't even post music dumb bot

[@MorrisseyMuse]

Me too but gameplay recently convinced me it was better than I expected and I'm glad I bought it now, loads of fun!

[@DOOMStudios]

@@MorrisseyMuse this is just my opinion lol. But hey more power to you.

[@darksharkzero6669]

they locked the game at 30 fps with worse graphics on systems that can run the game easily maxed out 60 fps. but a game from yrs prior with amazing graphics and shit on inferior gear looks 20 times better while also running at oh 60 fps. this dev team was just full of shit.

[@lonebunny537]

This game looks like a direct downgrade in every aspect compared to Arkham Knight, from the moment i saw 1 minute of gameplay i already knew what this was going to be

[@liamwelch6485]

Muta: literally using $1000 setup Wb: best we can do is 30fps

[@chumumi]

Brooo?? The base 4090 retail is like 1400😂 probably like 4000 idk

[@jamgrams3244]

@@chumumi True, but then you have RAM and fans and all that, which he more than likely paid a considerable amount of dolens for

[@chillhour6155]

You forgot to put in another zero lol

[@kyvian251]

Don’t forget Warner brothers is taking a risk….

[@DericJames]

Wasn’t Witcher 3 30 FPS too?

[@unknownvariable9239]

This game was in development for 8 years… and Muta tore it apart in 18 minutes

[@zoltire6478]

still find it halarious that a Ubisoft title that got worked for what a year? was still better than gotham knights. you know when Ubisoft did better years ago YOU DONE GOOFED no MORE than goofed. Even Arkham Knight was infinitely better

[@jrmloh]

@@zoltire6478 what game?

[@zoltire6478]

@@jrmloh AC unity managed to be better than Gotham Knights

[@reecechadwick8504]

Ha

[@Idkwhattoput-p2s]

@@zoltire6478 I don’t know about that, too soon to tell since they could fix the game. I played Unity last year and it was still broken.

[@humannomore7759]

Arkham Knight had an excuse for empty streets at least. And even then, the streets were actually Hella busy with all the criminals

[@fierysmile2929]

Yeah, I was gonna say they _really_ aren't empty.

[@owenleal]

Fr, the streets were extremely populated and it was cool because all the npcs were enemies, so at the very least that was something to do once you 100% the game, walk around and go ham on some crowds of enemies. With this? Nothing.

[@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard]

Arkham Knight is hands down my favorite Batman game but it was a complete shitshow when it first released on PC. You had people with 1080tis barely getting 30FPS. They eventually fixed it but the backlash was epic.

[@true4evre]

They all came up with reasons why there were no pedestrians. Did they think people wouldn't buy it this time if they made an excuse again?

[@slayed9602]

That doesn’t excuse the fact that Arkham knight had a bland open world with no NPC’s. You would think with Arkham knight being the last game in the series they would up the ante on the open world.

[@presidentirinavladimirovna7054]

You know, looking back on it, having an anti-video game parent wasn't so bad. While everyone else is dealing with shitty modern games, I'm still going through the games I missed out on when I was young.

[@Chris-iq5pr]

What’s a game you were really excited to play?

[@saltsalted1528]

Same here. At times it feels like there's really too much I've missed on lol.

[@dergrizzlyreaper]

Your parents are control freaks!

[@scoobusmaximusiii]

Literally me

[@presidentirinavladimirovna7054]

@@Chris-iq5pr Currently playing through the 360 era of COD since most kids talked about that back in school. I played through the GBA and DS Pokémon games, and I gotta say Emerald and Platinum were the best of the series. Haven't played Pokémon B2/W2 yet though. A lot of games had popular multiplayer that I've missed out on though.

[@peateargryfin844]

You will never be able to convince me this didn't start out as a microtransaction riddled live service game, then WB saw Avengers get it's teeth kicked in and panicked and turned the game into what it is now.

[@bricaaron3978]

_Of course_ it did. It's not debatable. All of the telltale signs exist, including Skill Minimization for combat/gameplay so that "progress" can be based on grinding/paying rather than skill, and multiple in-game currencies...

[@bricaaron3978]

@Waterboarding Tommy Fellows With Molasses Let's say I did --- What does that have to do with the point in question? I offered two pieces of factual evidence for my assertion in addition to the logical evidence given by the OP, and there are others as well. You have offered nothing at all in support of your view.

[@assassinaria]

I've played it for a few hours now and I thought that's what it was. I wanted a player hub or something to show off in but it's literally a SP game. Why the fuck am I grinding for 5 hours to upgrade my suit then?

[@ReplyIfYouLoveDogs]

@Waterboarding Tommy Fellows With Molasses I love how you just invalidated all your points, hypocrite. “Have you played the game? I haven’t, but so I’m going to give people flak, and pretend I have my own opinion.” I HAVE played it. And it’s alright. The combos are good, the graphics are good, the story and its “twist” is stupid, and the level design looks too similar for me to tell the difference between them.

[@ReplyIfYouLoveDogs]

@Waterboarding Tommy Fellows With Molasses look at you, liking your own comment because you got called out. :)

[@dark_hood7]

"You can like something but it can also objectively be crap" truer words were never spoken.

[@Silentguy_]

I can’t remember who said it (it might have been Muta idk) but they said “There are people who get off on eating literal shit. So I do not respect their ‘tastes’ in any way at all”

[@lewdleaf4975]

Marvel Fans

[@johans3164]

DC Fans be like

[@lewdleaf4975]

@@johans3164 people praise black adam as a master piece it's so fucking funny

[@johans3164]

@@lewdleaf4975 its so weird. I like the movie just fine but to claim its a masterpiece is so delusional. Say what u want about Marvel and its fans but i dont think their fanbase is as delusional as DC. They praised their movies like a second coming of christ. Almost like a cult

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

A real shame. I wanted to see the court of owls done justice

[@notcodexsand2879]

Play injustice

[@DZAcrimony]

Ive been fighting with Steam to get a refund but apparently trying to get the game to run in a playable state for 6 hours counts as "too much playtime".

[@humanbeans4498]

Steam only lets you refund after 2 hours

[@sirradez]

@@humanbeans4498 before 2 hours*

[@DZAcrimony]

Got the refund by tbe way.... just asked them to look at my history to see i wasnt an abuser of the refund system

[@scienceofnoises]

Dude as a rule of thumb, don't try to make it run for more than 2 hours or else it's a lot harder to get a refund, the automatic refund window is within 14 days of purchase OR max 120 minutes of playtime.

[@DZAcrimony]

@@scienceofnoises yeah im gonna have a timer going from now on lol

[@casuallynxgaming]

As some other people has said before: This was clearly a heavy live service focused game that changed drastically through its release (Maybe they saw what happened to The Avengers and said nope). It is sad to see this happened to Gotham Knights

[@mookiedt]

Doesn't make any sense for them to look at one game to determine that when plenty exist on the market. I mean the devs have made some dumb decisions that have pissed people off so I doubt they looked at avengers and said nope. They just didn't give it much thought to make a good game.

[@Idkwhattoput-p2s]

@Buzás András Oh here we go.

[@Huginn9129]

@Buzás András ah time for the idiots to show up

[@hafirenggayuda]

@Buzás András well, it's heavily leaning that side of politics.

[@sloshedtrain2]

@Buzás András lol, what does that even mean.

[@Mad_Axe_Man125]

"theres not alot of things that I'm too happy about in life..." I felt that.

[@JasmineTea127]

"You can like something, but it can also objectively be crap' This is liberating. Gives me mental permission to like crap stuff.

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

Played about 6 hours so far haven't really seen anything crap about it so far sept for the small uninspired talent trees. But maybe it gets worse as it goes

[@robertterrell7057]

O God objectively calling something crap is a lil sus

[@jamesgratz4771]

@@De1usionsofGrandeur it’s fun so far also about 6.5 hours in. Mostly doing side content and leveling up. The animations are crisp and each character plays distinctly. I really just don’t like the big enemies. They feel more like an obligation than anything fun to fight . I didn’t like the “tank” enemies in spider man either tho.

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

@@jamesgratz4771 I gained skills that let me deal with them though even without the skills as red hood I always just dodged and headshot them

[@justaguyonyoutube4592]

But then how can a game be terrible if say I like it or that you like it if you don’t think of it as terrible and still play it despite being called as such by those who didn’t like it?

[@Chumguttero]

“I hate modern triple A gaming” bro I feel it 😂

[@Cosmicmorales]

same 💀

[@Unapologeticweeb]

at this point I just play indies triple a is becoming shovelwear territory

[@MorrisseyMuse]

this is a AA game

[@rainbowfury1019]

I just retreated to mobile gaming. Everything's fine over here.

[@thedankgnasty1890]

@@rainbowfury1019 oh no, you've gone into No Man's Land, the Dumpster of gaming.

[@TheDevilsMishap]

Bro. I love how intense you get. You’ve helped me grow a tolerance for standing against a wave of people who stan a piece of garbage. Thanks for being you my guy.

[@kinga.t.242]

People have the to like the game

[@_wayward_494]

@@kinga.t.242 they do, and people have the right to say a game is bad, especially if it's trash from a triple a company. Seriously, it's 70 bucks.

[@accountnotfound4209]

@@_wayward_494 this game looked awful from its first gameplay video and people loved it in the comment section. Brain dead consumers are the reason why we get games like these now.

[@grayzee2976]

@@_wayward_494 50 if you find game keys online

[@sretlawnoraa]

Lol it only $27.99 now on ps store

[@aikouwuu]

i love the fact that Muta lists virtual machines above getting married in his list of things that make him happy

[@applehazeva2739]

Chad

[@tarapapi]

Muta trying to make the ultimate Virtual Wife thats why

[@giveandtake8428]

Marriage in this economy seems like death warrant of misery.

[@rohankishibe8259]

@@giveandtake8428 in western countries that is.

[@ihurtmyarm]

Muta's wife would win if she could install a virtual machine to her brain.

[@MarcelloLins]

Can we take some time to appreciate how versatile Muta's content is. From North Korean internet, to exposing crypto criminals and pedos, to video game reviews

[@acronym.4328]

Don't forget the rare but sometimes occasional love for Linux lol

[@rhetiq9989]

He’s one of the best edutainment creators out there lol

[@km-js7ws]

he's not really exposing them, they mostly expose themselves and he makes content out of it, most videos are of shit that just happened, so he can squirt his opinion all over it, as long it's relevant for the algorithm. watch him make a video about the suicide squad game that comes in spring as well, calling it here rn.

[@km-js7ws]

@@Grovelaara fan of movie quotes and oxymorons I see.

[@nisix4299]

love how this channel really is just shit he is passionate about, thats why i watch almost all of his uploads even if its something i dont care too much about

[@Mark-zo1hs]

Gotham Knights feels like a live-service game. I am pretty sure it was developed to be as such but after seeing Avengers get dumped on, they probably backtracked and removed the live service elements which is why the game feels that way.

[@biggiecheese4739]

Another big issue which you didn’t address is that the whole coop live services is so poorly made you’d be lucky playing in a friends game for more then 10 minutes before getting disconnected from a “network error” which is on their side

[@Snow-mp7zz]

Really I haven’t had many issues playing with friends besides some crashes here and there but then just join back so fast

[@lp.shakur]

@@Snow-mp7zz so you had many issues

[@tooke4493]

I didnt face any issue in coop nor crashed even it runs without dlss and rtx turned on in native 4k with 3080,10th gen i7 all at highest settings runs in between 50- 56fps

[@vanillawafer1182]

Well remember "current gen" includes that weak Series S. Ultimately still no excuse for the game not to run at 60fps on Series X and PS5

[@tnzycrew7227]

I had no problems with the multiplayer coop, played 12 hours straight when it came out and enjoyed all of it

[@TomoEriGoto]

When Arkham Asylum, a game from 2009, has more heart and more action, smokes this, that’s telling.

[@Mad_Axe_Man125]

Arkham Asylum has so much atmosphere. One of the few games I went to a midnight release.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

@@Mad_Axe_Man125 No open world game is better than Arkham in the way of it’s dark atmospheric geo city scape,Along with its dope mechanics and being fricking Batman,SS gonna be insane next year 🔥

[@Ligmaballin]

This game is like what if Ubisoft attempted to make a Batman game

[@Mrgomodefr]

@@frogz8317 lol

[@The-Eric-Cartman]

I hate Ubisoft as much as the next guy, but even far cry 6 and ac: Valhalla was infinitely more fun than Gotham knights (granted I didn’t hate Gotham Knights, just was disappointed after coming from the Arkham trilogy)

[@Ligmaballin]

@@The-Eric-Cartman True, I'm just speaking about the bland story, the RPG elements no one asked for and the horrible optimization.

[@darrenscott6982]

@@The-Eric-Cartman And 60fps, Far Cry 6 is 1440p 60 FPS.

[@KalomikaArts]

Hey, Splinter Cell was great

[@acompy]

Even though the arkham series didnt have all that many different types of enemies. They were all unique and fit into battles like a puzzle piece, an enemy with a stunstick or a knife had to be fought differently than an enemy with a gun or a shield. They were few but made a massive impact.

[@christianlowman2698]

Absolutely

[@zztzgza]

You also just had more ways to deal with enemies and even the odds with gadgets. In Gotham Knights it's literally just build up your super meter then do your super, rinse and repeat. It's so bland and basic and boring.

[@thegamersconclave8709]

They turned a genre defining stealth hero game into a boring beat 'em up with number grinding.

[@rhetiq9989]

There’s a few but if there is a large number of them ganging up on you it makes for a decent challenge. You have to constantly change up your tactics depending on their types and it sometimes need you to react real quick unless you wanna get stomped

[@acompy]

@@rhetiq9989 Absolutely, their differences were minor yet made such a massive impact on the fights.

[@carsaregood911]

The Arkham games were pretty much perfection honestly

[@nandog2597]

Rocksteady made the Arkham series Montreal is just piggybacking off their success, Suicide Squad is gonna be the banger.

[@Notorious_G.O.O.S.E]

I feel with Arkham Knights they fumbled a bit but by no means it wasn't a good game

[@Ligmaballin]

batmobile

[@carsaregood911]

@@nandog2597 I have the same faith in Rocksteady as I do in Rockstar so here's hoping 🤞

[@nandog2597]

@@carsaregood911 yeah, one thing i can say about RockStar I’ve never had a bad experience with one of their titles I know Red Dead online has its troubles but they could have released that as a F2P

[@TheOriginalJAX]

I have never known somebody to be so mad at their unwillingness to suspend their disbelief that it's obvious that Bruce Wayne is Batman and that nobody in Gotham catches onto this in spite of the clear visual giveaways between the "Two".I have to put that one to the back of my mind to be immersed so fair man lol, Don't ever change Muta.

[@Masckerdoom]

He literally has a mask and armour on. Nobody tell this dude about superman

[@Dietrich_Kaufmann]

Superman dressed as Batman and gave Bane the knee wobbles 😂 had us all fooled until he zoomed and kicked away a Moai statue 🤣

[@snakevenom4954]

Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne, and Superman all look alike. Some people even though Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent are the same person. Now, if you think Jeff Bezos is jumping off buildings, kicking criminal ass, then feel free to shit of everyone in Gotham. If you think nerdy, weak even Clark Kent could be the god watching over them, feel free to shit on everyone in Metropolis. Everyone knows Clark Kent looks identical to Superman. They know. They just don't believe a nerdy human could be a Kryptonian God. Everyone knows Bruce Wayne is gone for the entire night. But no one believes a billionaire with several adopted children would put on a bat mask and do superhuman stunts effortlessly. It just doesn't add up

[@YarugumaSou]

@@snakevenom4954 Now I don't believe jeff bezos could do stuff like that, but I do believe that such a guy who looks like real life Lex Luthor could do stuff like a supervillain.

[@snakevenom4954]

@@YarugumaSou Everyone knows who lex Luther is and what he does. He goes to prison several times

[@truemoon4545]

I’m so glad you showed off your PC specs because I was annoyed on Twitter that people were blaming the series S for an Gotham nights running terrible when your gaming PC can barely go past 60 fps When it’s clearly optimization issues but no one wants to admit it

[@willowispgaming1995]

Yep its like when watch dogs legion first launched, i got like 40 to 50 fps even tho i got rtx 3080 at that time. This guy has 4090 and has 40 to 50 fps? Damn

[@tablettablete186]

​@sperz35 At least they weren't lying about this slide quote 🤣🤣🥲

[@sarcasmguy6482]

I agree. Triple A gaming has gone to shit (though I feel some AAA companies are trying to be better decent). It’s gotten to a point where most AAA companies want quantity over quality. To me, it’s the indie companies that put passion into their products. I recently played a game called Rollerdrome and it was easily the best action/shooter game I’ve played this year. The main campaign can be completed in a few hours, but I want to keep coming back to it since it is actually fun and memorable.

[@rando5708]

listing "virtual machines" before "getting married" in reference to what makes you happy is exactly why I'm subscribed to this channel.

[@Dibby47]

It was so painful watching Jerma play this game for 3 streams in a row. (Sponsored btw) The chat was already making fun of the UI and spamming residentSleeper every 3 mins

[@mrjohnnyk]

Luckily Jerma can make any game entertaining, doesn't matter how bad it is. In fact the bad ones can be his funniest streams.

[@megamix5403]

Sponsored? o.o

[@songbirdsandsandwiches8217]

Jerma doing sponsored games is something I really can’t watch, it feels like he’s holding back so much

[@thelightlord6081]

I'm studying video game design at uni, and if anything, these crap games that have come out recently are teaching me what not to do

[@RedRabbit-ZA]

It's never been a better time to be a retro gamer. Finally get to those games you never got to play before.

[@acronym.4328]

And an Indie Gamer. And a Fan-game gamer. And a web-gamer. And sometimes a mobile gamer, if you really wanna hunt for the gold in the waste that mobile gaming can be.

[@applehazeva2739]

True

[@JBBrickman]

So true

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

Yeah I’m gonna use my new 3070 to play contra collection and streets of rage today😂 I wasn’t planning this but damn those games are actually fun

[@caseyleirer9677]

Maybe if you’re rich lol

[@UBFM277]

Predicted this game would bomb from the first gameplay reveal. Was joined with 10k others in the chat thinking the same.

[@CHodeslol]

16:02 I've felt the same way for years. It feels like there are a lot of investors and corporate big wigs, who don't give a flying fuck about video games and know nothing about how they're actually created, constantly putting unobtainable goals and expectations on these developers while simultaneously setting absurd deadlines and so these devs are forced to cut corners and ultimately have to push out an unfinished and unoptimized product to meet these expectations of these investors and whoever else that are looming over them threatening some sort of financial repercussion if expectations aren't met. I always say that I'd much rather have new games released way less often if it meant that the devs are actually able to invest the proper time and effort needed to create a good and finished game. Makes me miss the early to mid 2000's where game studios weren't nearly as big as they are now and could freely take the time to make something good without having to worry about going bankrupt because they need to meet some yearly quota of income. Shit was better back then.

[@randomstuff-qu7sh]

In general, the people in charge of the major AAA publishers are good at making money. Everything else comes in a distant 2nd place. Worst part is they know they can get away with it. Seems like no matter how many broken games they launch, worker abuse scandals hit the news, or toxic crunchtime scandals hit the news, people still keep buying the big titles. The major publishers have no respect for the art that goes into the games, nor do they give 2 craps about game preservation. That's one of the downsides to buying digital copies of games: once its no longer profitable enough to support or keep the store running, they'll shut it down and you're just out of luck. Pretty sure if they had a kill switch to disable all physical copies, they'd happily use it to force you to buy new stuff.

[@DOGMA20051]

@@randomstuff-qu7shFool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me is a saying I don't think a lot of these people have heard. These people who defend games like COD or Fifa that are released in poor conditions, or are filled with microtransactions or are just straight unfun. That happens once, okay that's fine you had expectations and the company failed, but that happens again you gotta think, "They disappointed me once why should I be surprised/angry that they did it a second time". Some people don't think that and when you multiply that number of idiots by a few million that's when you get lazy company's and lazy games.

[@JCascade6065]

I had never considered that RPG elements could undercut the setting of a game. Thanks for proving me wrong Gotham Knights. It feels... really cheap to have the Bat Family improving with randomized LOOT over a skill-based approach. These are characters that are supposed to be masters of martial arts, stealth, gadgetry, etc. But NO you can do a better job knocking out thugs because you found some cooler PANTS!

[@donnyg9993]

Yea adding health bars and materials does nothing but create an arbitrary grind for resources and xp in order to continue progression when it’s forced into a game

[@qrowing]

It almost makes me wonder if the game would benefit from a Crackdown style ""ability"" points system?

[@_ripVanWinkle_]

Not to mention they should have the billions that bruce left to make/upgrade gadgets

[@DrippleDragon]

I think that loot in an RPG especially a Batman one has to be unique and not just a way to improve stats, stats should come with leveling up and if given the option to include stats in a specific area like more health, stamina etc is fine it just has to be meaningful, but on the subject of loot I imagine it in Batman like Red Hood can find different versions of his gun and they have different element damage such as explosive shots, stun shots, silenced gun, and they have unique perks, like one gives an explosion every 6 shots, one gives faster reload speed every kill, and the point of dissembling them is the material they give can go towards upgrading a new weapon of your choice the point of making you work for them is giving them stat requirements to use them efficiently or get the most out of them, and same for the other characters, so Batgirls pants should be different variation that gives shock damage with a chance of stun with a unique ability that can chain shock enemies if not and it’s just a stat buff it’s relatively tasteless

[@I-J1NX-I]

When Red Hoods gun isn't shooting hard enough

[@itsnotborker456]

They had the audacity to blame the series S for the optimization problems instead of their own incompetence

[@Rctdcttecededtef]

They said that officially? Interesting

[@spiderkill2451]

God damn, they really are getting scumy🤣

[@vagamer522]

Meanwhile Cyberpunk2077 on series S does 60fps

[@forrandomsites3336]

@@vagamer522 it was initially only 30fps on the series s, BUT, they let the ps5/series x run it at 60fps. I don't get why it's 30fps across the board, even people who have high end rigs scrape 30fps more often than 60fps and above.

[@donnyg9993]

Being capped at 30 fps on the supposed next gen consoles in 2022 is unacceptable yet fanboys are defending it on the official instagram account lol

[@Mi2Lethal]

You know they fucked up when you can’t hit 60fps with a 4090.

[@thebaker3866]

Right that should be smacking 120FPS easily, PS5 and Series X version is a nightmare as well

[@dumbsville]

Arkham Knight came out 8 years ago and still looks and plays incredible. It has problems, but damn it, what it does well it does amazingly. Gotham Knights, a game that came out 8 years later, made by the devs who made Arkham Origins, could not match up to those standards. I didn’t buy this game after all the combat showcases. It’s an absolute slap in the face.

[@whysoserious4274]

It's crazy to me that origins was made by the same people that made this and I dare say That game is a whole lot better than this Especially in combat.

[@electronix6898]

I knew that the game was going to be garbage the second I saw the RPG mechanics shoehorned into it. This is what happens when everybody wants to make their game into an RPG-lite, live-service, skin-focused game instead of making a simple combat game and effectively execute on that vision. It's very obvious they tried to copy Marvel's Avengers and when that failed, they tried to change course but still ended up crashing.

[@meandtheboyz4675]

Didn't most of the problems of arkham knight came from denuvo?

[@fusionator043]

Stop comparing it to the arkham games, Gotham Knights is its OWN THING

[@AJ-nh9qm]

Why tf do y’all keep comparing it to Arkham knight or ANY of the Arkham games? If it’s bad judge it based on its OWN merits, not because it’s not Arkham knight

[@bighamza786]

This game felt like it had so much potential to build upon Arkham knight and incorporate future realistic graphics from current gen. It’s a shame that I’ll be passing on this one unless the price goes down cuz $70?? Ain’t no way bro

[@AJ-nh9qm]

Why would a game that’s NOT a part of the Arkham series….try to build on an Arkham game? Judge this game based on its OWN merits. If it’s bad, it’s bad and not because it’s not an Arkham game

[@bighamza786]

@@AJ-nh9qm because Batman “dies” in that game too. Anyways, most of the game mechanics are obviously from the Arkham games as well so it’s not far fetched to see it as a soft reboot to the Arkham series.

[@ericalexander3816]

@@bighamza786 No Batman fake his death in Arkham Knight. This game he actually died.

[@bighamza786]

@@ericalexander3816 by blowing himself up…. Noticed how the cause of death is similar for both games? There’s meant to be a slight over-lap so a connection can be made between the two, but not enough so you could still call it a soft reboot

[@ericalexander3816]

@@bighamza786 In movies or games universe in general if you see main characters blow up or fall off or die in anyway but does not see their dead body mean they did not truly die. In Gotham Knight you can see Bruce dead body mean he truly is dead. Also Suicide squad game coming out will be the continuation of the Ahkram universe so we will see if Batman in Ahkram universe truly die then.

[@SithControl66]

I disagree with the fact you said that all enemy's fight the same, you have the big freaks with the shields where you have to heavy melee attack to open them, the talons you have to heavy range attack to stun them, projectiles, the league of shadows you either time your dodge/melee. As for the Knights I would say that they can play different as you forgot to mention there abilities for Nightwing to benefit the team, Robin is good at stealth, Batgirls a complete brawler and Redhoods a powerhouse. I do believe this game needs improvement but I don't think it's really as bad as people say. P.s I'm level 26

[@Heisen_burger-dude]

I feel bad for the programmer. No way that the leader of the developer team will learn anything from this

[@hrothgarnogar]

The chefs? What would they need to learn? lol

[@MichaelGlitzos]

Often times it's the business people undermining the development team because they want as much monetization as possible

[@50colt30Productions]

@@hrothgarnogar how to cook a better game i guess idk

[@Heisen_burger-dude]

@@50colt30Productions Chef is a other word for leader/ boss in german. Liddle confusion sorry

[@50colt30Productions]

@@Heisen_burger-dude lol no worries. We use the word chief in English:)

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

“DC’s Marvel’s Avengers” couldn’t be more fitting of a name for Gotham Knights.

[@teamTaylorGang2011]

Exactly..

[@rhetiq9989]

They just had to try and top one another lol

[@alexwilliams4729]

It’s 4:26am in New York right now and on the time square cam there’s 1 person walking around.

[@alexwilliams4729]

Ok it’s 4:33 am and I see 5 cars and 3 people

[@GVO_Kurama]

The "mobile game" experience comparison is so spot on! Thanks for your genuine reviews

[@StraightWhiteMaleNews]

The ads on KZbin made me think it was a mobile game

[@chilipepper44]

Those UI buttons are hugeeee it really feels like I'm playing a mobile game

[@cro3757]

Despite people have been saying that since the first gameplay trailer months ago

[@theToxicFan69]

Lv. 1 - Tim Drake Robin Lv. 25 - Barbara Gordon Batgirl Lv. 50 - Jason Todd RedHood Lv. 99 - Dick Grayson Nightwing That’s the feeling I’m getting from this game, I had hopes for this after the terrible teen drama series, I should have known they would mess this up too.

[@SilentButDudley]

Red Hood got butchered completely. Runs like he has to shit? ✅ Lackluster personality? ✅ Non Psychotic? ✅ Doesnt kill? ✅ Awful Voice acting? ✅

[@subjectc7505]

Poor Muta. Nowadays you gotta keep your expectations low with AAA titles

[@evillecaston]

I can't believe THIS is the game that made people angry at the Series S. If a 4090 can't stick to 60fps, something is terribly wrong with your optimization.

[@memelord7643]

Whats funny i heard that this game is also locked at 30fps on ps5

[@indexwell6546]

@@memelord7643 bruh

[@numbron803]

@@memelord7643 yup, the cancelled last gen versions to end up not even having 60 fps on next gen lol. Imagine if it DID come out on last gen, it would probably run at 15 FPS.

[@Walamonga1313]

Lmao a 4090 struggling

[@donnyg9993]

@@memelord7643 yea. And it was a originally a ps4 title that was delayed numerous times AND it’s only a 41 GB download size. If you can’t make that run at 60 fps you’re either cheap, lazy or incompetent

[@bastiwen]

The game honestly feels like it's played at half its intended speed.

[@Mrgomodefr]

😂

[@razarryan2465]

The funniest part to me is that it’s a next-gen exclusive that looks like a mobile game.

[@selimhelal6060]

No lol get your eyes checked

[@DaGrubb97]

I've been seeing the ads on KZbin (didn't know anything about it otherwise) and I assumed it was a new mobile game wtf

[@amp4105]

sorry but this is objectively wrong, are you watching on a phone in 480p? the game is shit but it looks amazing visually

[@Jsipki265]

@@amp4105 it looks okay visually. You’re over hyping it a bit arkham knight was visually amazing this was okay.

[@harmansingh95100]

@@DaGrubb97 I'm glad I'm not the only one. The ads for this game are so weird

[@frogmouth2]

As someone who is a big batman fan, I very much enjoy that “the game makes you feel like your Batman” in the arkham games.

[@pizzaparker133]

and gotham knights prove that a game that you play as batman is better

[@lolcat]

@@pizzaparker133 no, it more proves that rocksteady should be the only devs doing batman.

[@corey2232]

*you're I deserve to be punched in the face, I know...

[@whysoserious4274]

@@lolcat yup I would have been okay with gk if the combat was at least the same or similar to origins But nope it was not very impactful, it was floaty Enemy health are bullet sponges. There's no counter Just continuous dodging for about 15 to 20 seconds just waiting for an opening to get a hit in.

[@TheBatman39]

@@whysoserious4274 Fr Gotham Knights combat it's a bad copypaste of Spiderman PS4 combat

[@MissingShogiPiece]

I appreciate the game trying something different than the Arkham games but I agree, it doesn't replace that series in my heart. Out of all the characters in the game Nightwing felt the most fun (I have a biased) and the Harley fight was fun but the game could have used more time in the oven for sure.

[@donnyg9993]

I found the game to be lazy across the board. The fighting system is button mashing, boss fights are all bullet sponges, the open world is nothing but the same several crime missions, upgrading gear boils down to getting gear with a higher number score. It’s like they intended for it to be a mobile game but didn’t want to hurt sales so they forced it to be what it is now

[@allopic3764]

We reached a stall in gaming at the moment, it really is the best moment to recover older titles and enjoy games from previous generations.

[@RaewCZ]

Yeah… and wait for the new games to be finished few years after release and in a sale 😅

[@allopic3764]

@@RaewCZ unfortunately, yeah, you summarised the situation perfectly…

[@ArjunB5]

Nah god of war comes out in few weeks we’re chillin

[@wassupguy1]

That’s what I’ve been doing with Assassin’s Creed right now. Just 100% AC2 after 13 years, and now I’m on to Brotherhood.

[@Rctdcttecededtef]

@@RaewCZ I remember the days of wanting to buy and play a game day one. Tbh though I am older now and find it harder to get excited about things though

[@Vman_95]

Most baffling thing I heard about this game is there's not much efforts put into crime solving mechanics, I was hoping there will be more crime investigation missions like Montreal did in Arkham Origins. Here I can see people solving crimes within few seconds 😅

[@ericalexander3816]

RPG mechanic here. Go here do this get XP rinse and repeat.

[@Sandriu]

They treated the court of owl and the league of shadows as if they were 2 street gangs, the court of owls is supposed to be the greatest threat in Gotham, and the league of shadows the greatest threat to batman, but it doesn't feel like it

[@Sicarius089]

Thankyou! These are exactly my issues and why I'm passing on this. Even comparing Arkham Origins to this, Origins had crowds of enemies on screen at one time. I noticed the small scale and just how dead the city was in one of the last trailers they put out late last year / early this year. Even from the menus / inventory displays has that cheap mobile game design. The worst thing for me is doing the court of owls without Batman, in the comics he fought off against them in Wayne manor for like an entire night by himself. So imagine my disappointment when they're like "nah Batman's dead."

[@GhostMikey0]

Batman being dead might be the coolest thing about it

[@DrippleDragon]

It really didn’t have to be Batman is dead they could’ve said Bruce Wayne has disappeared and the Bat-Family is trying to locate him and going through the plethora of villains to find him

[@Sicarius089]

@@DrippleDragon that, or Bruce faked his and Gordon's death as the court of owls were onto them investigating the court.

[@GhostySkate]

Love the new camera. Full screen on OLED phone screen feels good.

[@turboterps]

Yeah.. We waited 7 years for a new Batman game and got this.. I wish Rocksteady would make another Batman game :(

[@KurstKensei]

I love the concept of having the first 4 Batman apprentices take up Batmans mantle of defending the city after his death. I'm hoping WB makes an animated movie to at least salvage something from this game.

[@crimsoneclipse0618]

Oh they were about to release a dogshit CW series named Gotham Knights

[@zztzgza]

Go read the comics this game was based on. They're really good.

[@prufan]

I don't love the concept of Red Hood being watered down so hard, WB montreal took away the interesting elements of his character, he's just a slightly harder hitting Nightwing now(but unlike GK Nightwing, who looks great) and has a terrible face and haircut.

[@mrmeow2297]

They already did

[@numbron803]

@@prufan and is built like The Rock. He's so goddamn big! I hate it.

[@firefly5677]

Plague Tale Requiem has been the only game I was even remotely excited for outside of the RE4 and Dead Space remakes coming out next year. Partly because it's an indie studio and not triple A, but mostly because the first one is an underrated gem that flew under most people's radar

[@DaGrubb97]

Boost, a sequel that is a great game with great story to a great game with great story. Couldn't stop playing it this weekend

[@blephaous244]

Calisto protocol

[@mint5438]

@@blephaous244 This. Absolutely cannot wait for Callisto. Might possibly be my highest anticipated game of the year.

[@bironjames9948]

Cant play plaugeus tale 2 sadly xbox one loser over here but calisto protocol i cant wait for

[@CyborgSodaCollects]

I really enjoyed the first Plague tale. The story was captivating and scary at times.

[@localburrito877]

We were to harsh on Gotham Knights

[@RedDeadRedemption45]

We got this over the Damian Batman game? 😪 It looked so promising from the concept art.

[@ItsMemeHere]

i think after the first scrapped damian wayne solo title i got very excited that this was basically a revival of that concept, especially with the plot lines of batman's absence, the court of owls, and the bat cycle being recycled. then the first gameplay reveal and preorder bonus was revealed and all hope was lost for me

[@hit-manX5]

Surprised he didn’t talk about how slow they made the bike💀

[@Hinokassaudifan1]

With the PS5 and series x and s, you'd think that games would be played at a high frame rate, but Warner Brothers I guess want more money for little effort. I've bought the arkham games on my laptop, and it feels super weird to play those games with a framerate higher than 30fps.

[@xMagnason]

Could have told you that when the trailer dropped, they did Batman dirty.

[@TheBatman39]

And it gets even worse in the actual game, watching the cutscenes I legitimately believe that the writers of this game really hate Batman as a character.

[@MisterGreis]

@@TheBatman39 Apparently they're the writers of the CW Batwoman show? If so that makes sense to how they treat Batman.

[@sirusd.mankey1838]

This games hard mode was so boring and bullet spongy it was not fun. Drone master enimies are a nightmare

[@idkoutlaw]

Feels like the magic of anything good and new from these games that came out or that are releasing soon is like dissipating.

[@WCCXtra]

Seriously, I don't even know which games to be excited for. I do have my eye on a few indie titles, though.

[@UltimateInkling]

@@WCCXtra yea i might just play indie games at least they put passion into them.

[@ArjunB5]

@@WCCXtra god of war??

[@TheBatman39]

@@WCCXtra Well Modern Warfare 2's campaign and multi-player look freaking amazing, RE 4 Remake seems like a solid reimagination of the OG game and the new gameplay made me excited for it and Assassin's Creed Mirage is aiming to the parkour, stealth and story of the first games.

[@Zaque-TV]

@@TheBatman39 re-release re-release re-release

[@chartreux1532]

It's 1:17am here in Germany and you slowly moving towards the Camera in the first 10 Seconds scared the shit out of me more than i'd expected. That said, i also live in the Bavarian Woods in an old big 1800s House i bought cheap and renovated, so pretty much everything scares me 10x more than if i would live in a Town with Neighbors Point being, please add a Trigger Warning if these Intros of Creepy Indian Man will become a Thing. I probably won't sleep tonight! Prost & Cheers from the Berchtesgadener Land

[@cherobu2288]

hey man it’s all good to fall asleep tonight, i’ll keep you company

[@iniguezawsome]

@@cherobu2288 don't trust him. He does bad things... Source: I don't want to talk about it (cries)

[@Lorn_Forge]

i'm almost ready to just pick up a new hobby, gaming on top of becoming more and more expensive as time goes on is becoming an utterly dry industry. a lot of indie games while they show great promise never leave the funding stage so that's all they become is concepts. it just seem like a bit of a dead end.

[@TheMsr47gaming]

Me to dumbass's keep defending lazy work and letting these people get off with it.

[@crapsburger0017]

You know, a lot of ppl say that 2022 is a terrible year for games, but for me, a person that doesn't have any consoles and never had any, it's pretty awesome. A lot of amazing games got ported this year, No more heroes 3, Persona 5 royal, upcoming Persona 3 portable, Uncharted legacy of thieves collection, Marvel's Spider man. Yeah, its not new games, but i never played them, nor have i watched any walkthroughs on them. Honestly this has been a pretty awesome year for me so far from videogames standpoint.

[@Twinklethefox9022]

I think 2022 was a good year for me so far with gaming. Klonoa got 2 remasters and a pokemon game is coming out next month so I'm excited about that

[@Anonymous-gq7ho]

I mean, you said it yourself, they are not new games so you can't say that it's not terrible. We are specifically talking about released games in this year, not re-releases from previous years.

[@Stylebender1989]

Only game I got this year so far was the last of us remake

[@senorsenpai1686]

Not the silence... into the burst smile intro. You got my heart buzzing bro.

[@metalhead5620]

It’s really sad that this is how the game turned out because I’m a massive red hood and Batman fan and I was excited to have a game about them

[@toymomofthree7870]

I wanted to buy Gotham Knights so bad, but I trust Muta so I'll save my cash until its on sale for $5 down the road!!

[@JamesLawner]

Or just watch playthroughs for free!

[@CoolManCoolMan123]

@@JamesLawner playing and watching are different. Only watching play throughs work for PS games. Although GK isn't a PS game meaning there is still some gameplay doesn't mean that GK is best only when played.

[@JCDentonman]

Just play arkham knight please, trust me thats the game you wanted not this

[@Traveler_202]

If Gotham knights is the game you wanted to but you’ll love it, if Arkham knight 2 is the game you wanted to buy don’t

[@donnyg9993]

It’s not worth 60 bucks, let alone the 70 they charge for PS5 and series x. Definitely buy it on sale if you still want it

[@Viceray4760]

I wished that they went more into the detective 10 steps ahead stuff , with a more mature outfit design that’s not over the top extra , and have a different approach to building/ leveling up the character you choose - even with upgrading the technology at the “belfry tower”

[@thenonfictionalexplainer952]

Oh by the way arkham night is the first game that dosent have loading screens when you enter and exist buildings

[@mikigameplays]

shame how in so many franchises we are going backwords

[@Soren27]

The arkham games really are incredible.

[@dilly2023]

My favorite was Arkham knight. Wbu

[@EternalNightingale]

Arkham knight is goated currently replaying it all, clearly rocksteady made that game with passion and attention to detail compared to GK is a joke

[@Ozzianman]

@@dilly2023 My favourite is Arkham Asylum with Knight at a second. City is 3rd and I can't fairly rate Origins without replaying it. Have to say though, the full ending of Arkham Knight being locked behind having to finish ALL OF THE RIDLER STUFF IS DAMN STUPID! I ended up watching the ending on KZbin.

[@forbiddenalien833]

arkham Knight dominates with the gameplay while arkham City is amazing because of the story. but origins boss fights was another level. I haven't played asylum in a while but it being the original that paved the way for the others it has a spot there too

[@dilly2023]

@@Ozzianman same here

[@phatman4000]

I like he can have an aneurism over how people can’t piece together Batman’s identity, but haven’t thought about Superman identity being kept by a pair of glasses

[@LilCyco223]

Ikr

[@zelohendricks51]

Game made me want to replay the OG trilogy. Time to re-download em all

[@WSendam]

Isn’t it a quadrilogy due to Arkham origin being canon

[@rhetiq9989]

@@WSendam right more like Rocksteady trilogy

[@oliverlarosa8046]

It's almost uncanny how rapidly Muta can switch tones.

[@SealGunman]

The ads for this game are very mobile-heavily inspired. At first, I thought they WERE for a mobile game.

[@trickyvic6501]

Honesty cant get over the fact that red hood uses non lethal bullets.

[@meyeneetuks4680]

Ye thats dumb fr. Especially since he believes crime should be stopped by any means necessary. Just giv my man some real guns

[@Jsipki265]

@@meyeneetuks4680 he doesn’t use real bullets anymore in the comics he’s been through multiple character arcs

[@Fiddyyen]

Boy, watching this after the Suicide Squad game came out is kinda funny

[@Harrace]

so glad I managed to save my hard earned money from this tragedy this year

[@thephoenix8892]

A theory I heard from SkillUp in his review is that the game was originally meant to be like avengers but after they saw how avengers flopped, they changed how the game was but still left remnants of a live service superhero game. It makes a lot of sense tbh given that a lot of the aspects of the game could’ve been implemented in a live service fashion when the game isn’t live service

[@crazy-acid-trip9765]

Loving the indie game scene past couple years . Cult of the lamb was a blast . Short n sweet . Can’t wait for god of war and Callisto protocol

[@bobertastic6541]

sont forget crowsworn and silksong!

[@oshwaflz]

i was really excited for this game. nightwing is one of my favorite charecters in fiction period and it hurts so much the disrespect towards these legacy charecters

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

I don't like nightwing, he's kind of meh...

[@oshwaflz]

@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon i didnt ask

[@kim8304]

@@oshwaflz I did.

[@kim8304]

@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon does night wing suck right?

[@trickyvic6501]

doesnt nightwing have a fornite glider in this game?

[@mopnem]

Not gonna lie, as soon as I started playing gotham knights, I literally said to myself I hate modern AAA games lol. I don’t hate triple a titles, but the unpolished mess of this game made me regret it instantly & I got it on a very much lower price.

[@Chisito23]

3:11 "I liked the space movie from 1992!!" *Decides to search the movie on Google* Wtf 💀

[@Two-Man-Production]

I think what really makes it hard to get into Gotham Knights it’s that they removed it for Xbox-1/PS4, could’ve had a much larger audience for those that can’t get next Gen consoles, and despite the game being bad it could’ve been more accessible to people.

[@bleppyboo5969]

I mean... It's better this way. Just look at how it's running on the current Gen stuff

[@amberhernandez]

TWO YEARS and counting, we _still_ can't buy a next-gen console in stores. And yes, I'm still calling XB1/PS4 current-gen, since the majority of players are still on those consoles while CASES of unopened next-gen are gathering dust in some scalper's basement.

[@mrcsee6936]

@@amberhernandez If there is one group that deserves damnation, it's ps5 scalpers.

[@clawdroppin]

@@amberhernandez xbox series x is almost always in stock around in my area. and ps5s pop up every other week and so.

[@mr.crowgamer6250]

@@amberhernandez dude Just buy the 250quid Xbox it’s been available lol

[@yogijackson]

You saved me 70 bucks bro. I’m subscribing🚀

[@riatorex8722]

Yet another reason for me to fire up an emulator to play older, quality games that were made with heart. I don't know why, but playing games that I just simply wasn't able to in my childhood feels so damn good, man. Quite the ultimate poggers, if I do say so myself

[@roboturtle1429]

very pogalicious

[@whysoserious4274]

I agree. I play the old Pokemon games and part of me is mad I wasn't on that train when it was popular My childhood consists more of the psp games and Gameboy advance games and I play those too like God of war Little big planet Naruto kizuna drive ( and the other Naruto games ) Monster hunter games Undead knights Lord of arcana The Sims 2 Onimusha tactics Dragonball Spiderman etc I can tell immediately after playing a few hours of those games they have quality It was made with passion and love.

[@MochaFatTart]

@@whysoserious4274 LittleBigPlanet based

[@alecll493]

Because you have a connection with it🤦‍♂️

[@torchedphoenix2159]

Yeah I’m playing through the resident evil games and black mirror. A mystery game about murders and a cursed mansion. So far both have been extremely good.

[@WesternCommie]

I actually don't care if someone likes bad games, but because of peopling liking crap, developers think it is okay to release crap.. It is the fault of both these greedy companies, but also the consumers who think 'not having microtransactions' is a positive game trait(saw on a steam comment for the game).

[@memevondank1197]

Another thing I saw alot of AAA cope someone actually said “It’s impossible to make a game without glitches like this it’s been like this for 30 years” But for an indie studio if a game takes a less than a week to release the developer is incompetent Don’t buy shitty games no matter who made them But it’s just funny how people manage to treat AAA companies as if their indie companies and indie companies as if they have a staff in the high millions developing a single game

[@DOOMStudios]

Gotham Knights feels like it was written by a Mind of a 7 year old.

[@konradcurze8176]

It was written by the people who wrote the Batwoman tv show

[@TheBatman39]

@@konradcurze8176 Glad that more people are openly speaking that the writing is from a CW show

[@tyv1383]

@@TheBatman39 Gotham Knights: 91210

[@rhetiq9989]

Well it was no Paul Dini writing I can tell you that much

[@seekerxiii]

That's a shame to hear. I've been hearing polarizing opinions about the story: some like it and some hate it. What made you feel this way about the writing?

[@matthewgiles573]

I refunded the game but it’s no way this game was worked on for 8 years

[@jasonotto9126]

It most probably was. Look at halo infinite and the shit show it is

[@Some_Shmuck]

I feel like he's slowly descending into madness with these intros, like look at how the light perfectly shadows half his face 😂

[@NiiiiLO]

I love the fact that they bought all the big twitch streamers to sell this crap

[@dinospumoni8255]

and it's backfiring from what I saw today. I was watching a streamer with 20k views playing this and over 90% of the comments were people saying how terrible the game looks.

[@vagamer522]

At least they got the dough from them

[@rysing-alexhd5078]

i played 10 hours of it. for me i like it. i guess some people way combat over story but i really don't care about combat if the story is good. the game is a solid 7,5 for me rn

[@Twist_-]

Really love the aspect ratio muta is using to record this vid it fits perfect in the mobile app withouts having to zoom and lose some quality and video edges

[@skurbee_]

and it fits 21:9 ultrawides really well too

[@emperorpenguin5442]

When I first played this game, I genuinely thought this game was made by some other small game company or indie game devs. They tried their best to match the release date, and this is what we got. But after I learned this game was developed by Warner Bros, a triple-A game company, I couldn't believe it. This is even more inexcusable for one of the biggest entertainment studio game companies. Once again, I agree with you, Mutahar.