GPD Win - UPDATE

[@thomass8269]

I have had the same issues with my I/O’s on my GPD Win. Sooo... as my GPD Win said to me... “It’s not you...it’s me.” Don’t feel too bad...early adopting is a tough roll to be in.

[@Larry]

Have you thought of cutting a notch out of the top of the HDMI cable so it goes fully in? That could be the reason.

[@ColtDouglasMusic]

Larry Bundy Jr Hi, Larry.

[@codenamecrisis9679]

At this rate, there's literally nothing that isn't worth trying

[@MiguelBarbosa315]

This is the solution, my pc case has the same problem and I have to cut my HDMI cables

[@MiguelBarbosa315]

The fact that he pushes the cable means that he probably fucked it up

[@253637zero2]

I think most people would think about doing so 5 seconds after he stated the issue. Cable isn't fully in, you hold the device for an hour would properly make you come loose just enough so that it disconnects. It's the device fault, but come on.

[@Helvetica_Scenario]

That HDMI cable is clearly way too thick. It's not connecting properly because of it. By forcing it, you may have warped the connector. Like others suggested, you could try cutting some of the rubber off the top so it doesn't come in contact with the hinge.

[@fcuk_x]

Helvetica Scenario He probably doesn't know how to use box cutter.

[@rrcczz]

It’s that damn Smach Z’s fault!

[@Northgical]

Speaking of Smach Z, I wonder what happen to Rhomb and Smach Z

[@HYDRAKOMIKS]

Poble LMFAO

[@DudeMcPunchy]

I'm going to blame user error for trying to force the hdmi rather than finding a cable that fits.

[@kobisjeruk]

Shave a little bit off the top of your HDMI cable, HDMI is very sensitive and it seems yours arent connected properly.

[@JordyValentine]

Looks like the case is poorly designed and the hmdi cable is poking out just enough that it's not touching the contacts properly thus the intermittent isssue

[@MULTl]

TacticalBBQSauce I wouldn’t say poorly designed but in a way too he is using a really thick hdmi cord when hdmi cords nowadays are way thinner letting it plug in all the way a little bit of both but an issue

[@_GarethRossUK]

I've got a box full of HDMI cables and connectors this "KZbinr" hasn't a clue on utilizing the potential.

[@wynterfoxx2517]

MULTI//VENUS That isn’t the issue at all. The cable isn’t pushing against the device or anything so the issue isn’t the HDMI.

[@MegaTerryNutkins]

Get a less bulky HDMI cable or sand yours down so it isn't fouled by the hinge.

[@knman0010]

Who in their right mind will take ur gpd win pocket review seriously after this....

[@artmediaz]

ッ the designers chose to keep the HDMI out feature in the product instead of compromising and removing it all together or using the less common micro hdmi. The device itself is already what it's advertised. Giving the small form factor of the device, it's understandable that there may be clearance issues, however, blaming the company when you are obviously using a cable that is too thick to properly fit doesn't seem fair.

[@Crazelord91]

To judge the GPD Win by its HDMI output is a mistake. Honestly I think it's not a necessary add on, I personally have never used it, and wouldn't care if they removed the feature. If you want to play something on your TV that has big company design behind it get a console or a Switch (it can't do the same things as a Win, I mean it's better if big company quaility product is integral to you), but if you want an amazing portable gaming PC that actually does what it's meant to do very well at a reasonable price, get the Win. Edit: This is one of the few videos I actually ever hit dislike. The more I think about how he used a HDMI cable that was obviously too big and forced it in when even the least tech savvy people could figure out basic sizes and shapes, is way too focused on a very non essential feature, how it's a small independent company product that really can't be expected to take the same kind of obtuse abuse as a big company console, and too bash their product for such easily avoidable issues when you have influence to affect the sales of the best quaility product they could realistically make, is myopic and dissapointing.

[@GameHunter3D]

Crazelord91 I used it many times when I was in hotels and only had my gpd with me. Plug it into the TV + xbox one controller = perfect.

[@Crazelord91]

GameHunter3D Not saying it isn't a good feature, it seems great if it's useful to you. But to bash the Win so much based on its HDMi output capabilities bothers me. I see it as more of a lucky add on than a criteria for quality

[@GameHunter3D]

Crazelord91 You're totally right, I would have bought it even if it didn't come with an hdmi output. But now that I used it so many times I'm glad that they added it. What's also neat about the port is that you can use it on a bigger monitor when you're installing/config your software. Working speed increased by 10 times.

[@help8998]

In my opinion, if it’s part of the product, it should work, however, I do agree that a lot of people wouldn’t use the hdmi, but those people wouldn’t care about the issue, and as he said, he’s reviewing it. It’s his job to judge it.

[@ThatsPety]

saying get a Switch makes no sense since its running entirely different software. You cant run emulators on a switch. You cant access your steam library on a switch. I think this comment is a mistake, whether you use the port or not

[@connormccloskey2187]

Please tell me you've tried multiple hdmi cables before giving up?

[@fcuk_x]

Connor He expected developers to do that. He also thinks they should have included compatible one in the package, so he could make his youtube videos worry free.

[@cyphre]

Seems like your need a thinner HDMI cable. In fact it seems super obvious it isn't seated properly because your particular cable is too fat.

[@mrsone2000]

Wow, sad to see that the HDMI port is giving you so much trouble. I am glad that you decided to move on and put out new videos. I am looking forward to seeing both your GPD pocket review, and your updates to your Kickstarter coverage.

[@bullfrog098]

Your HDMI cord is thicc as fucc

[@randommemes4759]

I think people don't really mind the camera pointed at the screen, at least i don't mind

[@EpicLPer]

Buy a cheap Mini to Full HDMI Adapter, they're usually super small on the Mini HDMI side. But either way you shouldn't captured via the HDMI, as soon as the screen backlight turns off the fan will stop working because it's connected with it for whatever reason. And when you expand the desktop to the HDMI it won't work well either because the games running on there won't run as well as they do on the internal screen.

[@Thornskade]

The fan isn't really necessary, but if you want to have it on you can at least dim the screen. I haven't noticed games running worse on an external screen. Perhaps you just used a native TV resolution of 1080p, while the Win's own screen is 720p. At double the resolution, of course games would run worse.

[@AaronALAI]

I believe you are correct, that it is a hardware issue. I'm hypothesizing that your original cable physically interfered with the hinge (like you pointed out) and stressed the solder connections of the HDMI component. The video looks like the HDMI receptacle experiences a mechanical moment when any HDMI cable not thinner than the hinge will allow is plugged in. In my experience it looks like many others may have this issue as well, as the clearance doesn't look to allow most normal sized HDMI plug heads. At this point you would have to take the thing apart and inspect/repair the solder connections of the HDMI receptacle to the main board, to guarantee you have a connection all the time. Likely, the physical spatial gaps between the solder joints and board are influenced by heat (part expansion) and/or mechanical stress which is why the issue may be so in and out. If you modify the HDMI cable as others have suggested in the comments, I suspect it will work more frequently but you will still have issues.

[@SianaGearz]

It looks like the plug doesn't go in all the way, like 2 or 3 mm short of where it should be. It needs to go in all the way for the spring contacts to mate properly. I think the heat expansion is not the way of the solder joints, it's minimal, but leaf springs can change shape remarkably.

[@extendeddreams]

Hey weird request, but would it be possible to get a list of the games in this video?

[@hicknopunk]

Get a hdmi cable with a thin connector, it is the cable!

[@LongTimeAgoNL]

I hope you get the chance to review the GPD Win 2. I mean, even though this little device is expensive as hell, its a really cool thing to actually bring your own steam library on and play games during long travels.

[@HYDRAKOMIKS]

GPD WIN 2 fam let me know what you think about it

[@kx7560]

This video was directed by M Night Shyamalan

[@Pharisee312]

Try a smaller adapter that will go fully into the mini hdmi port.

[@michaelaranda5220]

It's the wire too.

[@draygoes]

Happy new year peoples!!!

[@Autobot032]

*facepalm* I don't even own the device and I can see the problem with the cable. That's a user fault, not the machine's. Good grief.

[@jelpy]

Found the problem! The HDMI cable isn't actually plugged in. Look at 00:20

[@Poebat]

yep

[@MULTl]

Just get a thinner hdmi then it will plug in fully your cord is thick

[@sketchonk]

Why is capturing the game on HDMI a big deal? 99% of the time I think GDP Win users would play games without connecting to a TV

[@dennett316]

It's to get clean footage for the channel without resorting to recording the screen. Also, it's a bit of a cop out to say that, the HDMI out is part of the spec, it should work as intended. If it's not working right, then it needs to be mentioned.

[@Hex_ESM]

Shave the HDMI cord plastic tip to allow full insert of the cable. I had the same issue and have it working 100% now. We have DJ channel and have used the GPD Win for multiple Live Captures (hdmi recording plus us on camera at the same time).

[@crustjunkie]

It's a hardware related issue due to GPD using a phone screen as it's screen. If you notice the GPD Win was originally rotated in a weird way.

[@maegnificant]

could've bought a slimmer cable you know

[@koloec94]

Is the type c connector broken so u cant just get an adpter for it?

[@GameHunter3D]

Jack _ I think the usb type C adapter is only used for charging on the GPD Win... Could be wrong

[@yakskiis7426]

That is correct the type C is only for charging. But the USB 3.0 could be used with an adapter.

[@_GarethRossUK]

Matthew Forsyth USB c is for charging and HDMI out and USB port too. Not only just for charging with the right USB c hub

[@d.r.1402]

Matthew Forsyth - Incorrect. Bios option allows Display Port over type C. www.reddit.com/r/gpdwin/comments/6f9j21/whats_the_deal_with_the_minihdmi_port/

[@AestheticFunk]

I have had electronics with poorly placed HDMI slots exactly like this where the cable doesn't want to go in all the way. What worked for me was one of two things: 1) trimming a little of the plastic off surrounding one end of the plug 2) buy a slim HDMI cable. I've noticed that many HDMI cables have varying plug sizes. Sometimes the plastic enclosure around the plug is thick and sometimes it isn't.

[@Knifegash]

Your voice is just so addicting man.

[@austyn.l6289]

This could be my last video on my subscriptions on this year 2017. I hope everyone has a nice and safe new year.

[@ScarlettStunningSpace]

Can't wait for the review on the GPD Pocket. I think it would be kickass to get one of these but I need to now the gaming performance first, with emulation and regular Steam games!

[@usBirury]

Dude, I have one, and I always use my HDMI to connect to my tv.. but tbh, I think ur HDMI is probably the problem.. love ur channel btw! Happy 2018!

[@AvatarEquis]

I have had a GPD WIN 1 since February. Your problem is the cable apart from slight damage to your mini-hdmi connection port after jamming that ugly cable you used. Get a thin mini-hdmi to hdmi cable or an all flat mini-hdmi to hdmi cable. As in both the cable and the cable conector are flat. You could also have used a usb-c to hdmi cable as that works too. But it may require tweaking if it don't works right away, so, if you are not up to do that, just go with an all flat mini-hdmi cable like I mentioned. On projecting the screen: If you only project the second screen, fan turns off because of a GPD WIN 1 design quirk. So, If you do that. do it with non-demanding indie games and emulators. Otherwise just use duplicate for everything else or extend if really needed.

[@flcnfghtr]

The Pocket seems very interesting, I like the form factor better than the Win, but I'd prefer to see it with the m3 that GPD moved to in their Win 2 model.

[@_GarethRossUK]

Buy a USB C hub with HDMI out HDMI out is best via the hub. Sometimes the HDMI port can be known to cause dead units when charging. The USB-C hub will be a cheapish solution. The hubs start as little as £15 or $25 maybe less.

[@Pharisee312]

Try the USB Type C port.

[@jort93z]

There are few devices that can put out video over USB-C. Doubt this one does TBH.

[@Pharisee312]

The GPD Win has a setting for it in the Bios and most Intel Atom tablets can do video from Type C. I had a Venue 8 Pro and I own a HP Pro Tablet and both could Type C to HDMI.

[@Pharisee312]

www.reddit.com/r/gpdwin/comments/5ynhhq/usbc_to_hdmi/

[@jort93z]

nice

[@nicholsliwilson]

Hay a fail review is still a review. Happy New Year buddy, I hope it’s a good one. :)

[@dennett316]

You could try a flat HDMI cable, or one of those ones you can make into a right-angled connection in order to avoid the hinge. But, it seems like if you've been pushing the cable in hard then you might have made getting a connection impossible. It's still a hardware issue, but one possibly made worse by yourself. Have you tried getting in contact with GPD, see if they can offer a fix?

[@necrokittie2291]

i would have shaved the rubber down with a knife on the corner of the hdmi cable that hits the hinge before it broke the device.... because forcing a cable into a port slot will of course damage it. plus the cable is alot cheaper then the device.

[@mlg294]

I don't see why you're having these issues I just use the adapter came in the box and it works just fine I have never had an issue maybe you should use the stuff a comes with the product still have a cheap one you bought online

[@rehsab01]

Symptoms sound familiar (particularly the part about having to push the HDMI plug constantly inwards). Perhaps you should let a technician check the GPD Win motherboard inside, as there could be solder crack ("dry joint") at the mini HDMI socket pins. Nowadays environmentally friendly lead-free solder are much more brittle. Also the amount of solder used is very thin. Physical stress stems from the weight and movement of the HDMI cable compounded with movement of your handheld. Have seen this solder crack often with surface mounted HDMI sockets, miniaturized stereo audio jacks and micro USB sockets (particularly if that socket is used for charging). Typically in those cases caused by repeated cycles of plugging and unplugging, as well as cable movement inducing stress at the socket.

[@MikeBBlack4Life]

Not a software issue that's for sure. That HDMI looks like its not in all of the way and it might be bending the cables connection to the win device a little. If you are willing to do it. Modify the HDMI cable so that the housing is off and you can stick it in the win device further. That might work but if it does or not. That's way to much you need to do just to get the device to work properly.

[@zackschilling4376]

Happy New Year.SD&R ! I have a problem with HDMi on my PC. I have it hooked up to my TV and every so often it goes black for like 2-3 secs and comes back. Theres no rhyme or reason it just does it randomly like 10 or more times a day. I think its my TV though cuz my PS4 and Wii U have done it before but not nearly as much as my PC does. Sometimes it does it like 5 times in a row. The only time Ive seen it do it on an exact spot is on the 16 bit picture of Mean Gene from some WWF game , not sure which one, but the one OSW plays with there title splashes. Keep up the great content !

[@Zoomin69]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

[@fugareia27]

Why don't you get a HDMI elbow (that fits with the hinge) connection? And connect the HDMI cable you already have onto it?

[@FreaKzero]

i had the exact same problem with mine ... the problem is that the "notches" which you have to connect with the adapter are too wide "in" the port - i clipped "carefully" the edges of the adapter off where the adapter and the display hinge are meeting with a side cutter. Since then never had a Problem - but be careful that you dont clip too much off (on my adapter i had alot of room ... for sure clipped off 4mm.

[@PEACEWALKER1992]

Have a happy new year StopDrop&Retro! ...wait who names their kid like this? xD

[@MichaelLee_mlk]

USB-C to HMDI I've found work perfectly every day for me. I've heard of a bunch of people having issues with the hdmi which is why I've been never bothered with it.

[@bweansFGC]

Maybe you could record on something like OBS or Fraps?

[@GameHunter3D]

Unlocked Dreams I guess that wouldn't be the best solution. You'll loose some power if you use a capture software which is not ideal of you want to show how well a game runs.

[@undulaet]

Congrats on 50k!

[@CoolVids19]

NEW YEAR VIDEO!!! HAPPY 2018 DADDY

[@badcatalex]

Hey, uh, have you tried screen capping and NOT recording via HDMI?

[@EckmanJones]

Can't you file down the plastic around the hdmi cable so it fits better? Any chance of you getting your hands on the Win 2 Prototype?

[@rodionraskoljnikov3803]

Such a dumb reason to not use the device, it is a HANDHELD, not a console you have to connect to TV, just show the camera footage like everybody else.

[@KaeYoss]

Rodion Raskoljnikov That excuse no longer flies in the Year of the Switch ;-)

[@Thornskade]

@@KaeYoss He could have just used a thinner cable.

[@Thornskade]

This is unfortunate. Yeah, it's not ideal that some cables won't fit because the hinge is too close, but I think you should have gotten a thinner cable before you likely damaged the port. Oh well.

[@InsanitiesBrother]

It's HDMI port isn't working so great, therefore you can't test anything related to the other parts of the device. The HDMI port is such a small part of an amazing device.

[@InsanitiesBrother]

The games can't be tested because of no HDMI... Use a camera to record the screen. We really don't care.

[@Feark]

Could also be how the mini hdmi looks. I have one that works great but I also bought a mini hdmi adapter for ordinary hdmi cable, and the adapter almost wont fit. Just an idea.

[@balsaV]

Did you try the usb c dongle it will have an hdmi port and you can connect it like that to a monitor or a tv

[@royguerrero8889]

Are you going to review the GPD WIN Performance edition? Or the GPD WIN 2 when it releases?

[@Ascot89]

Nice cliffhanger at the end

[@odddavidster2995]

did this guy ever do a GPD pocket review? I swear I remember him doing it but I can find it anywhere.

[@mrembeh1848]

Happy new year !!

[@beans5200]

I’m planning to get the GPD Win 1. I’m just wondering if you can upgrade the cpu or anything else inside it

[@bazzeil]

I use a type c power delivery hub with dp over c output, and a couple usb ports, but using hdmi with fullscreen games instead of windowed is an issue in some cases, due to the intel driver. Unfortunately intel has already dropped support for the atom soc and will not repair the bug.

[@theabhominal8131]

did you hear about the new xd+ just seen it on linus... want to see what you think...

[@leGUIGUI]

had you considered at some point to simply do the review with a cam-over and simply emphasis enough on the HDMI port not working? thatcould have saved you lots of time.

[@SUPERKID515]

Who cares.. You are the best and most brutal honest reviewer out there... Next to Larry Bundy as well.. Two heroes to the gaming community!!

[@PickyOldGamer]

I’m surprised it worked as well as it did. A pc in the palm of your hand makes my IT senses tingle and want to call bs but the gpd win does well. Maybe try Guru Larry’s suggestion on the port. But yeah move on to new stuff.

[@alltechuniverse1959]

Aww I was looking forward for the gpd pocket review

[@XenWarriorTheReal]

Use a steam link and use the feed of the steam link for your capture card? I think that could work. Might affect the performance tho...

[@HideoV]

If you leave alone the hdmi capture, how does the device perform? Most users I imagine won't be capturing gameplay of the device, but using it as a portable (I actually saw one GPD Win on the London Underground!).

[@The_Obsolete_Cow]

hey off topic question but have you ever considered reviewing / trying in a psp go the modding makes it an awesome emulator for on the go

[@vankor]

You could use OBS, it would affect a little bit the performance, but it's worth a try

[@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932]

To clarify: The device itself isn't bad, it's just hard to test with and capture footage off of?

[@rodionraskoljnikov3803]

He is just too lazy to buy a thinner hdmi cable, that is the problem.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

It's almost like warranties for these sorts of things exist.

[@alexandre9257]

Happy new year

[@Rikkan4]

I want to see if the GPD win 2 fixes your problems

[@Slash0mega]

dose it not work at random, or is it consistant with what games it dosn't work with. could it be a resolution issue?

[@ccateni28]

Use screen recorder or press win key + g to record games.

[@KniGhTKrawLeR9]

Christ......He said he's been testing it and trying multiple suggestions for months. How many of you people complaining that he should just use a different hdmi cable actually own the device and can prove that would really help or that he hadn't even already tried that? Hands? Thought so......

[@ahmedp800]

Time to upgrade and get the Win 2

[@dominatoryprograms7296]

What was the first game shown in the video????

[@SianaGearz]

Uhm they don't deliver the HDMI cable with the system, do they? Perhaps they should. Anyway some cables have a lower profile, and the rest you can usually just shave the connector sheath to fit. Come on, it's a $2 cable, there's no reason NOT to mangle it, certainly much better than potentially damaging a $400 computer! In case you have already damaged it, expect to pay around $100 to have a board rework specialist install a new HDMI port into your GPD Win.

[@WobblesandBean]

1:10 AAAAHHH YOU'RE PLAYING CUBIVORE!

[@MasterControl90original]

Try OBS with intel quick sync encoder "it should" let you record without slow downs or minimal ones

[@geoserenity]

Well...can't you just get some repair guy to see if the hdmi port is ok? maybe it can be switched out for an hdmi port that would fit better, a friend of mine did that on another project

[@Bounty2223]

Did you try it with a different and slimmer HDMI cable (different monitor/tv too?) Honestly I'm kinda confused, why didn't you just record it with a camera like you did now and back then? It's a mainly portable device and I actually don't care about the HDMI output that much (even if you want to show off the full visual quality). It's good to know that you're experiencing issues with it and I would've mentioned that but otherwise it seems to be working ok, right? Anyway the GPD 2 seems to be like a massively superior (but much more expensive) device. I'm done with playing games with outdated/low end hardware years ago on my notebook while on the go and wouldn't consider buying a portable gaming pc device anytime soon but it's good to see that they're trying to get much more powerful hardware in the device and is a proof of concept for other devices in the future.

[@NyndjaYT]

Such a shame. But I understand because I have been waiting for new vids from you for a while and I'd rather see new vids about new stuff than a slew of videos about games on this one device. Que sera sera.

[@StopDropRetro]

Thanks for understanding. Gotta move on and deliver more content

[@laltXl]

I'd probably try to grind that angle on the HDMI connector till it doesn't get in the way anymore.

[@QLTD]

bummer

[@JL0ndon]

The best way to start a new year is to leave the crap tech in the junk drawer! That is sad though because the GPD Win seemed like such a great little device. Oh well, at least you’re moving on and new content is on the way. I didn’t even know they made a pocket! So that will be cool! Anyway- Happy New Year SDR! Here is to more shit kickstarters, odd vaporware, and bizarre ports on plug and plays! Cheers mate!

[@acdbrn2000]

J.London It depends on how much you care about eed the hdmi out part. If your looking to only use it on the go then the hdmi connection problems might not even register to you. Basically when you get down to that size\price range there will always be compromises and it looks like the hdmi is another one people should be warned about so they can make an informed decision.

[@Crazelord91]

The Win is a great device, he just had unrealistic expectations of it

[@Evan2]

What are you even talking about? The GPD Win is pretty great.

[@SianaGearz]

There's nothing wrong with GPD Win - well the enclosure clearances are tight, and I don't see how they could have designed it better, it's not a simple task, but you just choose a less bulky HDMI cable, or go for the cheapest $2 cable and shave the connector sheath with a sharp knife.

[@beavis5691]

Just because the hdmi isn't working doesn't mean that the device is worthless. That's not even the point of the device anyway, it works great as a portable pc.

[@MapleTalkative2]

NOOO U DIDNT DO THE HAND HELLO in the beginning

[@codenamecrisis9679]

GPD 'Pocket' is somehow larger than original... sure...

[@mysickmemepagebro3271]

What happened to your gdp win 2 video?