05/04/1987 Arsenal v Liverpool

[@TOSILENCE77]

The final days of football before it was ruined by money. True and passionate fans. Genuine glory.

[@davidmiles2636]

So true, back when it was a sport not a business.

[@terencetrentwatford.632]

Got to agree with that mate .

[@isaz597]

Lol. "fly Thai" on advertising hoardings & plenty of other national & international companies on show. Rose tinted glasses.

[@smashdalde9713]

@@isaz597 fail.

[@johnwalters4792]

Come on City

[@nealesmith3700]

I was there aged 13. The first time Liverpool had been beaten in a game that Ian Rush scored the first goal. Perry Groves came on and changed the game. 100,000 fans at the Old Wembley. Good times.

[@pf7746]

First time Liverpool had lost when Rush scored at all. And then it happened again v Norwich the next week!

[@davidgraham6781]

I bet Liverpool fans were sick 🤧 of losing to Arsenal again in a Wembley Cup Final. 😂 1950,1971(FA Cup) and 1987(League Cup). 😆

[@pf7746]

I’m too young to remember 1971 (never mind 1950) but 2001 more than made up for this one.

[@davidgraham6781]

@@pf7746 Aye and the only difference was that the 2001 final was played in Cardiff because of the old Wembley being knocked down to get replaced by the present new Wembley Stadium. 🏟️

[@michaelmoore.5167]

John lukic Arsenal legend 😊😊.

[@ZeldaFitz]

This game was the birth of modern Arsenal as we know it. Best of all the Arsenal cup finals I've been to.

[@BritRS904]

I was there too and yes it was the start of the new AFC

[@dessiemckenzie5857]

First league cup final I remember watching. Loved Barrie Davies commentary especially for Nicholas first goal

[@rjjcms1]

I remember watching it with a friend and going to the pubs,wandering about town that languid Sunday afternoon with everything bathed in warm sunshine,the clocks having gone forward and a taste of proper spring arrived. Merseyside had been so dominant but Stroller put Arsenal truly back on the map that season.

[@Stokesie-st8gf]

I don't support either of these teams but this was the era of football I loved. The old Wembley with terracing. The basic stripes in the grass, the tight nets, the pitch bathed in sunshine. The mitre delta footballs, decent refereeing, great commentary. Look at what it has turned into today. Not just football , but the country as a whole.

[@TheCasao86]

I couldn't agree more mate so fuckin true

[@Rorynes]

So true indeed.how many british players play in british teams nowadays...

[@fredwhite9513]

I was at Wembley that they, supporting Arsenal as usual. With all the money, the cheating and diving and corruption (specially at FIFA level), cynical tactics, football as a sport is not interesting any more.

[@fredjackson9231]

The salient sentence, but the country as a whole

[@Eleventhearlofmars]

No VAR checking to see if the player broke a blade of grass before scoring?!

[@unique7988]

The old Wembley will never be replaced! ❤

[@arifajazali1229]

Unique79 true true true

[@Liofa73]

Unique79 --- Meh, it was getting to be a run down shit hole even then... It's a shame they couldn't have saved it with a refurbishment, but the towers were just a shell anyway, they weren't real, just a gimmick. So Probably better it's been replaced.

[@JJJJ-fi9dg]

Liofa agree it should’ve been replaced. But they did a seriously bad job with the design of new wembley. Literally impossible to create any sort of atmosphere in there!

[@vordman]

@@JJJJ-fi9dg Yeah, and even at cup finals you see empty seats on the halfway line because the tossers who own them are more interested in hospitality.

[@TheFoxington]

I was 14 at that time. Had been a supporter for 7 years and hadn't seen the Arsenal win anything...until that day 💪💪💪 bounced about the living room when we scored. Good old Arsenal 😍😍

[@robertoc2485]

I was there as a Liverpool fan. Good match. Proper players. Arsenal were just getting established then I felt. I saw them late that year and they were excellent. Very good young players. Adams, Niall and co were superb.

[@tigerarmyrule]

I'm a lifelong Evertonian but I totally agree. That Liverpool team was a marvellous team. Rush a superb leader of the line. Wembley finals still meannt something and this game really was a signal of the re emergence of Arsenal as a huge trophy winning club.

[@rajnirvan3336]

Quality Adidas originals kits. I was nearly 10 in 1987 and started following Arsenal from this game

[@MathsClubHelp]

Players when they only wore a number, that's when the shirt mattered more than the ego. Changed days.

[@andrewphippsphillips1455]

True that, you had to fight for a shirt and get picked back then. Now they are indifferent about getting a game because they are paid, while some piece of shit in a suit, tie and with a mobile is constantly telling them that Real, Barca or Atletico will come for them, so they can have 5 appearances a season for the same £1M a day.....shame 😶

[@tommylucy4738]

Great day ! Colour & atmosphere in the Arsenal end was fantastic !

[@BjørjaBear]

Back in the days when the League Cup mattered

[@apathyintheuk265]

@Alan West I can assure you Fergie wasn't the first to play a weakened side. The competition right from it's inception in 1960 was treated as an 'inconvenience' by most top flight sides - It only really started being taken mildly seriously when it was granted a Wembley, one game final. Just check out how many 3rd Div sides have made the final (some even winning it) for proof.

[@craiggerrard5117]

@@apathyintheuk265 That's true. In 1975, for instance, none of the semi-finalists were from the first division. It was always seen as a minor trophy but it is even more so now. I agree with Alan West as well though that finishing fourth in the league is now seen as better than winning an actual trophy has downgraded it even further.

[@apathyintheuk265]

@@craiggerrard5117 The chance of qualifying for the Champions league as opposed to competing in Europa league is financially far more lucrative. It's as simple as that.

[@craiggerrard5117]

@@apathyintheuk265 Yes, but that is not a good thing. The Champions League should be for champions only. The massive central funding, which distorts domestic competitions should be removed. Not going to happen though - the money has thoroughly corrupted football.

[@apathyintheuk265]

@@craiggerrard5117 I agree but we've come a long way now for any chance of reversing the situation as it is. For decades, UEFA were trying to come up with a way of creaming the best of the top 5 or 6, maybe 7 European nations to create an 'elite' European league. They achieved that by making the old style European cup (a knock out competition) a more accommodating league format - Mission accomplished. You are aware that money dominates (all) sport, aren't you? You can trace that back to the 1970's when the FL in a desperate attempt to give the competition some credibility, upped the prize money for.... Yep - the Football League Cup.

[@edwinstarr5591]

The best days of my football life,the seventies even better,

[@russellgoodall6206]

Steve Williams, very under rated, one of my favourite Arsenal midfielders of ALL time, so his temperament was questionable, but his vision, passing and commitment to the shirt was second to none! Could do with Willow to sort out today’s midfield!

[@davidboyle1193]

I agree mate ,better than any midfielder we have now

[@rickbond9168]

I watched him play for Arsenal and in certain games he was the best player on the pitch! Top quality player!

[@robertcorr2972]

Perry Groves Legend!! Nice quality - thanks for sharing.

[@MathewSimonGospel]

This was probably the first big match between Graham's Arsenal and Dalglish's Liverpool. It was a great rivalry until 1991 when Dalglish resigned.

[@Flo-ny1qq]

This was my first trip to wembley.remember it was a blazing hot day and we were outplayed by Liverpool in the first half. We got lucky with the two Charlie goals but sang our hearts out when kenny lifted the cup. It was the start of a new era for arsenal,shame about the final the following year tho.

[@adrianthomas5561]

This was the day when Ian Rush's record (every time he scored, Liverpool never lost) Came to an abrupt end. And I was there to see it!!!

[@fredwhite9513]

Outplayed by Liverpool in the first half and got two lucky goals? u sound much more like a sour Liverpool fan or a spurs supporter. How can you say the first goal was lucky? Arsenal for sure were not outplayed, not in the first half and not in the second half. And Arsenal had more chances than Liverpool and 100% deserved their victory.

[@Eleventhearlofmars]

Fred White you sound like a salty arsenal fan because he made a comment you didn’t like?! 😂

[@nealesmith3700]

When Ken went up to lift the littlewoods cup, we were there we were there.

[@TheOverlordOfProcrastination]

You don't seem to hear roars from the crowd like that anymore.

[@MathewSimonGospel]

I agree

[@wiseonwords]

Well, certainly not in July 2020!

[@vordman]

You can feel the buzz. This was a proper cup final, the ones these days feel so flat.

[@mrflynn1205]

And soulless

[@michaelmoore8371]

John lukic legend 🙌.

[@colinthomas5449]

Remember it well. Gutted my first ever trip to Wembley done twice by Charlie Nicholas. Still a good memory though pint in pub before hand with dad two cousins and uncle. Can't win them all... LFC.. Rip Uncle Dave and Wayne

[@MrJevman]

Back when the league Cup was a major trophy. Halcyon days.

[@louispks]

The League Cup mattered so much in those days, because they were no European football for English clubs due to the Heysel ban.

[@charlesbull6188]

No7 rocky god bless you

[@gumdeo]

Proper footie back then.

[@robertpearce8204]

When charlie scored the winner, the man on the chair who got up to celebrate and then sat back down again is Bob Wilson...

[@dessiemckenzie5857]

What a great seat to have on a day like that ! Loved Bob on Football focus

[@pump1606]

i was there..... 1st time Rush had scored and liverpool lost and i think it happened again the following weekend at Norwich...great day out

[@Mark-jagger]

I was at this match (Liverpool fan) and when Rush scored I made the stupid statement “Well we’ve won now ‘cos Rushie has scored.” LFC had never lost a match where he had scored before. My friend who was always a little negative said “Well there’s always a first time” He wasn’t wrong but I never forgave him for that!! RIP Barry, mate....

[@richardandrews5972]

Mark Hunter Thanks For sharing I am arsenal fan and remember that game and that was the days when most league cup finals were held in April instead of stupid February or March . Yes the first time Liverpool lost when Ian Rush scored. When u said Barry i thought you meant Barry Davies the TV com mentor and i checked he is still alive, i realised after wards, I read your sentence wrong and it was your dear Friend Barry my apologies Sorry for the loss of your Friend take care Mark

[@gooner73clark88]

And the funny thing, if I remember correctly, is after all those years of it not happening when Rush scored, it happened again at Norwich the following week when Liverpool again lost 2-1 having led by a goal by Rush.

[@stevendecube2832]

Arsenal back four: Viv Anderson, Adams, O'Leary, Sansom... Nice!

[@forgive7449]

2 years later arsenal won the league as george graham got rid of those 2 England international defenders & replaced them with hungry youngsters like winterburn & dixon. 😉 george graham never given the credit for bringing back the glory days to arsenal..... and THIS win started it all

[@2005peasah]

Both Anderson and Adams are two great back four players in our defence that day thirty two years ago

[@bryanbelshaw7725]

To think Adams was still playing under Wenger.

[@Final50Meters]

This is SO GOOD! These were better days. #AsnlLiv

[@eddunne4190]

Barry Davies was almost crying when Charlie equalised.... the 1st game liverpool lost in which Ian rush scored.with respect,arsenal where decent & on the up under gg

[@lewisgreen2957]

That dive by Viv Anderson😂😂

[@johnwilliams2920]

Crowds were louder, then. 🙌

[@PhatTok]

That wembley feeling simply doesn't exist anymore. The new wembley is souless.

[@nickycotton6137]

RIP Littlewoods. For that 'free kick' lol @ Barry Davis = "Look @ them poised! You'd think it's the start of the 100 metres".

[@franriding6473]

Liverpools dominance was beginning to creek. The 89 league title race was the beginning of the end. Although they won it in 90 they lost the fear factor. The fear is back 30 years later.

[@bryanbelshaw7725]

Yet in 88/89 they had a team that smashed everyone.

[@franriding6473]

@@bryanbelshaw7725 Arsenal won the league though

[@Project5am]

Nah you missed out that Liverpool went on to to buy Barnes Aldo Houghton and Beardsley and the 87-89 produced one of the best football teams in world football. The stress of Hillsborough was a big factor in Liverpools decline

[@edmundpower1250]

​@@Project5am87-80

[@RG_bmgamer]

Love the Football and the atmosphere. And the year Everton won the league !

[@robertpearce8204]

....and the year Coventry beat spurs in the FA cup final. Yep a great year for footy.

[@maratonlegendelenemirei3352]

NEC but no european cup for Everton.

[@RundUmDenSVNiederwerth]

0-1 Ian Rush (23 min) 1-1 Charlie Nicholas (30 min) 2-1 Charlie Nicholas (83 min)

[@texriba8000]

Great commentary everything was just perfect at the old Wembley

[@2005peasah]

Nicholas showing his strength and courage to score those two goals and stopping Liverpool dominance

[@bryanbelshaw7725]

Just a pity his hatred of Liverpool clouds his judgement, as his crap weekly predictions show.

[@caeglas1]

They have edited Barry Davies commentary . When rush scores he actually says “ I don’t have to tell you what that means” referring to the fact up til then that when rush scores Liverpool had never lost

[@bernardthegwp71020]

So sad how much the game as changed, look how much the Arsenal players are delighted to have won and the disapiontment Liverpool players are showing in losing. I watched this years FA cup final and Lingard was laughing at the end of the game he had just lost. Wtf? Fans also much more passionate pre seating and prawn sandwich times.

[@tigerarmyrule]

Spot on.

[@mohdazmi10]

bring back the terraces

[@jamesmcgrath578]

paul andrew carr yeah but Lingard is a muppet

[@fredjackson9231]

When the league cup meant something

[@apathyintheuk265]

@@mohdazmi10 They're never coming back.

[@texriba8000]

Miss old Wembley

[@kevinstoneham1245]

You don’t quite see all of it here, but Liverpool’s goal was their famous trademark three phase ball. Brilliant.

[@rajnirvan3336]

Had this match gone to a replay Villa Park was listed on back page of the programme. Also both teams probably switch kits

[@williampocock9429]

its only a league cup but it made me happy when my daughter was born 87 the start of the bubbly ones! a,f,c w

[@gooner73clark88]

It was a big competition back then and even more so in 1987 when English clubs were banned from Europe

[@gerardoneill1513]

Even though I knew the result and had seen this game growing up i was still sticking my foot out to score or stop a ball, was a great game against a great Liverpool side.

[@rigsby1454]

'it took a deflection I think' still cracks me up

[@adambaker8689]

Even at 10, as a United fan, I knew automatically to support the team playing Liverpool.

[@rajnirvan3336]

I would have nearly been 10 too that year. It also made me become Arsenal fan as everyone was always Liverpool

[@christopherdenniston9013]

Because you didn't have much else to cheer in the 80's 😅

[@adambaker8689]

@christopherdenniston9013 true but the 90s, 00s and even 10s, we more than made up for it

[@nguyendailam6703]

I was eight and have very vague memories of watching this on tv.

[@mrswift5145]

I was there , such a great atmosphere and never say die attitude of the young gunners that day . Start of the making of Arsenal as we know them now after beating the filth at the lane . Underdogs in the semi and final . Anderson left for United the following season as he said he’d stand a better chance of winning the league 😂😂 if only he new about what was gonna happen in 88/89 . Come on you gunners... “Charlie Charlie ... Charlie Charlie

[@mrflynn1205]

The start of the making of the Arsenal we know now…..are you fucking serious ??? This was the start of the resilient, never give up Arsenal of the mid eighties to mid nineties. The very same resilient, never say die attitude that a certain Arsene Wenger managed to slowly erode away when he brought in his sprinkling of flakey French footballers who would Chuck their toys out of their pram through to the substandard crap like Kocsielny and Coquelin. Arsenal started to slowly die when the likes of Tony Adams and Ray Parlour where let go and never adequately replaced.

[@mrswift5145]

@@mrflynn1205 so you actually agree with me as in the team from 86/ 87 under George until Early in Wengers reign when we won so much with the likes of Dixon , Winters , Keown, Bould , Adams , Rocky , Mickey T , the much under rated Kevin Richardson , Parlour etc . The spine has never been replaced not sure White , Gabriel and Party are even nearly close to getting there . If we had any ambitions of replacing that type of steel to our team I’d take Tarkowski , Kalvin Phillips , Tielemans, or push the boat out for Declan Rice …. But we won’t it’ll be soft players who cost less

[@mrflynn1205]

@@mrswift5145 so you agree with me then.

[@mrswift5145]

@@mrflynn1205 yes m8 . That team was what took our club from almost nothing to the club ( not the current team or past 10 to 12 years ) it is now . Don’t think Graham was fully appreciated either the way he changed our mentality and how the club was seen . We were always big . The 85/ 86 season when West Ham were doing well we played Birmingham away when they had West Brom away and we took about 4 to 5 thousand for a nothing game end of season game . The old bill said if we’d been in West Ham’s position we’d have taken nearer 20 . We actually took to Aston Villa in the Milk cup ( league cup) over 18 thousand and were put in their seats , some in the lower holt end .

[@JohnCrowder-js8qz]

Wonderful game they beat a good spurs team in the semi finals then a great Liverpool side to win the cup

[@boxingjerapah]

Deflection killed us in 1977 and 1987. Both times we were playing in white. Remember it well. :(

[@athelstan927]

Never thoughht that before..

[@nickycotton6137]

Charlie N weren't half poised for them 'finishes' on many an occasion. Reliable CF the legend.

[@TB.....]

I think Mr J Klinsmann studied Mr.V Anderson's performance that day.

[@anthonydry5265]

I remember this...such a stuffy win for Arsenal although we did get our own stuffy win in the Fa Cup Final.

[@crutemartyn1523]

Luck played its part here for the gunners , but good final , when it meant something

[@jpm61]

Yeah like the scousers have never had any luck over the years, but then again it's never their fault is it.

[@hanklesacks]

Hannibal Barca how did liverpool ruin european competition ?

[@stevesalkas9128]

Best time and games 1979 to 2006

[@davidgraham6781]

I remember watching this final when I was a kid and pleased with the result as well. 😂 I still reckon the Football ⚽ League made a big mistake of replacing the original League Cup trophy 🏆 for a few years when they brought in the Milk Cup and of course the strange Littlewoods Cup which these two sides were playing for at Wembley. 😆 The original three handled League Cup was finally brought back for the 1990-91 season onwards. 😆

[@andrewcharley1893]

3:48 The 1987 Oscar award goes out to Viv Anderson,well deserved 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@IATM29]

I nearly spat out my sandwich when I saw that hilarious Viv Anderson dive.

[@davidrowlands2726]

That would go to VAR today and be given . . .

[@orlandotrustfullandhiscosm4110]

How comes the sun is shining and looks a warm day? Hasnt the League Cup final always been played in late Feb/early March? Maybe the sun shone a little more back then?

[@thewaythetruththelife1745]

The league cup finals used to be played in April I believe back in the day or at least in the mid to late 80's they were. Great memories I was 8 and remember everyone going mad at school on the Monday

[@orlandotrustfullandhiscosm4110]

@@thewaythetruththelife1745 ah ok thanks. i was still in my mothers womb when this match was played lol

[@jamesmcgrath578]

booyakasha there was actually snow across the country in March that year

[@ZeldaFitz]

The league cup final was always played at the end of March or the beginning of April until the late 90s. In fact, until 1983 it use to be played at 3pm on a Saturday the same as league games. Then they moved it to a Sunday in 1984 and broadcast it live.

[@rosemaryfarell5264]

Used to be played in April

[@Godosmm9717]

Im here because of Nick Hornby

[@mackfin8869]

I’m an Arsenal supporter.I was in the Liverpool end

[@kevinmerry1838]

We should’ve won that by a cricket score. First 20 minutes we could’ve scored 5. The memories

[@davenaicker4115]

Crown paints lol. I remember fondly

[@KirksCORNER1983]

Anyone know where to find this Arsenal shirt to buy in the US??.

[@mrasawsarez4748]

Ghir el barah j'ai assister à ce match ça fait 33 ans(moh l'usma)

[@artybarty4543]

One nil down, two one up, we fucked Rushies record up, la la la la, la la la, la la.

[@Maz-h8f]

The mistake we made is recruiting from wiyhin. George graham,Alex ferguson and terry venables were available but we went for superstar kenny who couldnt stick it out like fergie and graham who are made of much sterner stuff.

[@wongyc5585]

This match was the beginning of the end of Merseyside clubs dominance in English football. Arsenal under George Graham broke Liverpool dominance with 2 Div 1 league season titles. It is followed by Man Utd Alex Ferguson new era of victory and Everton sharp decline.

[@TheIsmaelIsaac]

The old 70 years+ referee is the man of the match

[@jpm61]

And when Rush scores Liverpool always win...

[@afc358]

Before corporate got their greedy, money obsessed hands on the game.

[@factnotifaction8019]

How good football used to be😢

[@jjgermancarsdontsignal7746]

Still think Yan Molby was one of the best passers of the ball if not a little immobile.

[@garethjenkins6273]

Who put the ball in the Scousers net? Charlie....

[@edmundpower1250]

Own goal

[@garethjenkins6273]

Charlie scored the equaliser. Winning goal was a big deflection that was credited to him.

[@stephenm8898]

3.55 diving has come on a lot since those days

[@horrortackleharry]

Kenny Sansom was indeed nervous.... as a newt.

[@williampocock9429]

its the bubley one charlie Nicholas!

[@williampocock9429]

the hero of the north bank its charlie the bubley one! champagne!@@@ charlie! i was there! a great day!

[@trevorafc2798]

I was there blazing hot day ,believe it or not I enjoyed going to Arsenal home and away under George Graham .Keown,Adam's,bould,Seamen, winterburn, Samson,Nicholas,Rocastle,Parlour ,Any of that lot could walk into Arsenal today .liverpool have improved enormously fair play to them ,Arsenal have gone backwards. Herbert Chapman ,and the Hillwood family must be spinning in their graves .STAN KROENKE OUT.🤬🤬🤬

[@williampocock9429]

its the bubley one charlie Nicholas!

[@williampocock9429]

lets bring it back the charlie george charlie Nicholas dennis bergkamp days good health to all gooners will afc

[@williampocock9429]

wrighty kanu henry wiltord davies thomas adams bring it back boys! x ya x

[@jonpowell8503]

We were just softening the scousers up ready for Anfield 89 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@markadams3008]

charlie george was the best striker in the world at this point

[@watchtowersociety6995]

perry groves....!

[@dannycadwallader6503]

When there was a proper roar . Before half 3/4 of the ground was given to corporate interests.

[@monkeyboy007007]

Viv Anderson's shocking dive. Still, at least we know where Eduardo got the inspiration from!

[@andygeorgiou7753]

The greatest club

[@priaramah5674]

Old school fans : standing,clap their hands,and song club anthem from the 1st minuted - final whistle Current fans : take a selfie,make a video,and doing that millenials shit in stadium.

[@davenaicker4115]

Now i remember Charlie Nicolas. Lol

[@dannywlm63]

It's Charlie

[@shahmer13690]

John lukic coyg!

[@erniescullion8452]

I was at this. Liverpool are my team

[@aptmap5181]

Wembley is such a poor venue. Pitch too big, stands too far from action, and the camera angle is abysmal as well

[@edmundpower1250]

Are you feeling better now

[@discharge29]

back before silly money killed the game

[@rumbac4794]

Ian rush had a goal but Liverpool lose first time

[@johnwalters4792]

Come on City. Four in a row

[@lfcspectre4335]

No more cares about Shity, unlike these two powerhouses of English game.

[@mrasawsarez4748]

Kount ehna fi Wembley fi 87 viva l'usma

[@kityesa2504]

Arsenal played pressing football by then.

[@paulndor848]

Diving to try to get a penalty is nothing new is it Mr Anderson?

[@rcmanization]

who was the arsenal goalkeeper? And was that referee 80 years old or what?

[@mohdazmi10]

jphn lukic

[@edmundpower1250]

Ref was 74