10 More Seconds | 10 Second Shuriken and 10 Seconds To Win! Game Reviews

[@Vergiu]

Hi, I'm the creator of 10 Seconds to Win! This was my first platform game, and I agree with you, it's a mediocre game, but I have a special affection for it. In the future, I plan to make a more elaborate sequel. I really enjoyed the review, and thank you for buying my game :)

[@Graeldon]

Thanks for making a sweet little game! I saw you have more recent releases on your steam profile, I'm excited to check those out in the future! Also, please tell me how your name should be pronounced 😅😅

[@Vergiu]

I don't know how to explain how to pronounce my name 😂 but you can hear the pronunciation if you put "Portuguese (Brazil)" in Google Translate

[@enderkatze6129]

Did you use the achievements as a save system?

[@notquitenil]

That second game seems pretty plausibly like it was just someone who liked that style of platformers and wanted to try making one for fun. Not a huge amount of effort, but just enough care that you can tell it's something they genuinely enjoyed doing and playing. It's nice to see these smaller passion projects get the spotlight now and then.

[@cameronmcgurrin3724]

I wouldn't be shocked if this was somebody's first game that they made in their spare time after school. If that's the case, then this is quite a nice little game to start with.

[@Dwyer69]

It's actually a special type of game sub genre exclusive to steam, an achievement showcase game. It's purpose is to give you achievements you can use on your showcase to write a message or do some soft level of art. That's why every achievement is just a character on a keyboard. However what this game does different from most achievement showcase games is that it actually tries to be a fun little experience for the playtime instead of some asset flip that pumps every country's flag for pressing each letter on your keyboard. Likely as you said just someone doing a passion project and wanting to contribute to a unique subgenre. It's a good marketing tactic too because I would highly recommend the game to anyone who's wanting to get a large number of achievements to use for showcase since it's a great $1 time. With all respect to Grael if he sees this, he seems weirdly unfamiliar with the culture of PC gaming to be doing a series like this with the amount of details like that that seem missed from the videos. I think it really misses a lot of interesting and important details around this like, true indie nature of so many projects covered in the series.

[@Graeldon]

@Dwyer69 I'm definitely learning more and more about some interesting niche areas of gaming culture, and a lot about game development and design as well. Achievement spam games aren't new to the channel though, so I felt it wasn't necessary to go in depth into why it was created that way, rather just mentioned that it's not something the average player particularly cares for

[@Dwyer69]

@@Graeldon that's definitely fair, I've missed a good chunk of videos (I think I watched starting at the Alamo game and the backlog from there) so like I said very much no disrespect intended, keep up the great videos man

[@Graeldon]

@Dwyer69 thanks for being understanding, and for supporting the channel! I think the first one with achievements was !Anyway!, which was also doing some other shady stuff. Have fun!

[@Fupicat]

my god the sword is so slow its agonizing, this first game was painful to watch, cant even imagine how it felt to play 😭

[@Graeldon]

After the first swing my brain just went "wut". That's the best they could do???

[@shinyagumon7015]

7 dollars for a game that feels like the dev just gave up halfway through is a lot. They didn't even bother with the first world achievement lmao

[@Cow-Moth-With-A-CRT-Head]

3:15 like butter through a knife? Or if you're feeling whimsical, a fish through pudding. The point is, we probably put more thought into this comment than the devs did to the game.

[@Graeldon]

I'm glad that someone wants to put in effort!

[@dominateeye]

Douglas Adams would be proud

[@nottony8665]

Should have been "This game won't make you last 10 secs 3D EDITION"

[@squidx5800]

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[@fledered6967]

1:46 Actually the game opening SteamVR without actually being in VR is a common bug on beginner project made with Unreal (on which 10 seconds Shuriken was very likely made). So the gamedev didn't actually plan to make their game VR, they were just lazy

[@Graeldon]

Thanks for the info! I'll keep that in mind as I'm sure this won't be the last time we see it

[@the_dark_jumper2211]

I'd be hesitant to call it outright lazy. Unless you have a VR headset or receive a bug report, you wouldn't know this is happening. VR is still a niche, so for such a small game, neither option is very likely. The Steam Discussions only have 2 non-developer comments. Graeldon's review is the only review this game ever got, and even that one doesn't mention VR. So, yeah, I'm fully convinced they just don't know.

[@SomeGuy712x]

(13:42) Interesting how the game let you land on the corner of that spiky landmass. Shouldn't be too much longer before you get to 100% Orange Juice, though you gotta get through the heaps of 100 things games, starting with 100 Alien Cats. I'm sure you'll just group those all together for everyone's sanities.

[@Graeldon]

Getting there slowly!

[@30neru]

6:58 nice clutch

[@Graeldon]

Thank you! I was amazed that I pulled that off!

[@TDMicrodork]

I like how W3 and W4 has the same completion percentage. Everyone how decided to play the game till world 3 beat it.

[@Graeldon]

It's the principal of the thing y'know. Gotta see how deep the rabbit hole goes

[@thierrydecker8110]

I actually have a very strong opinion on the question on the thumbnail. I believe it to absolutely be okay, as long as any advertising is honest, and the prices are reasonable (subjective as that might be). A motto that I stand my is "Everything has the right to be a masterpiece, but nothing has an obligation to be one."

[@Graeldon]

I agree that mediocre can be okay, as long as it is advertised and priced accordingly, and the dev has realistic expectations of their game. Unfortunately, we tend to see a lot of mediocre "AAA" $80+ games these days.

[@moonielivee4836]

The next games are gonna be 10 seconds for a while

[@Graeldon]

I thought that would be the case, but we're actually done with the 10 seconds section. Next up is 10 Years After!

[@moonielivee4836]

@@Graeldon wait really? I guess most of then don't start by ten funylli enough

[@SomeGuy712x]

@@Graeldon Wow, that suddenly multiplied by about 31½ million. :P

[@neutralnarwhal8184]

That last game is really a "We have X at home" moment wrt 2D precision plaformers. Not bad or anything - just lukewarm. The generic/store brand version of games like Meat Boy and Celeste. At that price, I wouldn't complain, tho.

[@chobies5383]

12:36 Bro called that an emoji :E

[@Graeldon]

*emoticon technically I guess

[@jademonass2954]

@@Graeldon its a type of kaomoji

[@Graeldon]

@jademonass2954 I'd never heard of that term before, thanks for sharing!

[@kalilak9701]

Thanks for another great video! Thanks for slogging through games like the first one so we don't make the same mistake! >.

[@connordarvall8482]

That second game reminded me of why we had Flash games.

[@CinnammonTree]

The second game reminds me of browser platformers I used to play as kid ։) I might pick it up, especially since it's on sale rn

[@trevoreyre2775]

We got to make sure that game journalists don't hear about "10 Seconds To Win!". They might get stuck on the first level for a while.

[@TomaszRyszkowski]

True

[@GreiH]

Disappointment % is hilarious

[@Graeldon]

Tai has a great way of inserting some extra humor into the videos!

[@fhm2]

4:47 - "In fact I'm looking through the achievements right now and one of them actually says "Test Achievement Please Ignore!"

[@TomaszRyszkowski]

Truly a gaming god

[@jadewedge6082]

in terms of speedrunner style games, the ones where you're aiming for the best possible time, I heard SEUM was pretty good. Never played it myself, though. ... I hope I live long enough to see the rainworld video :x

[@CainXVII]

2:39 I thought it was my cat 😂

[@tonyzacker8946]

What happened to Loveheart Gonzi? I hope everything is alright with them.

[@Graeldon]

They are still around in the community!

[@tonyzacker8946]

@@Graeldon Thank you, that calms my mind.

[@olivewooled1297]

Huh, I think that's the first ruly mediocre game reviewed yet! Well, there'll be many more to come I'm sure.

[@Graeldon]

For sure, and they can be the most challenging ones to rate

[@saffral]

10 Second Shuriken seems like someone wanted to make Lovely Planet but without any of the polish. That screenshake on tossing a shuriken alone would drive me up a wall and not in a cool parkour way.

[@ravenanne1734]

The steam VR thing is on by default in the engine they're using (I don't remember if it was unity or unreal that did it) and it's usually a sign of a really lazy development... Great start!

[@vesterblue4227]

I can't wait until he gets to tackle the 100 animal series.

[@Graeldon]

Only a few weeks away now!

[@Highretrogamelord]

Well, looks like the screen with the cat in the first game is the best part about it. (Too bad you can't pet it though...)

[@E_MO_TION]

I'll never understand why people think that a 10 second cap on a level is a selling point

[@Graeldon]

TikTok generation maybe?

[@plebisMaximus]

It's a unique challenge. As seen with 10 Second Ninja, it can be done pretty well too. You just need a lot of these 10 second levels for it to be worth the money.

[@lukecwolf]

Shorts levels reminiscent of the 2010 mobile games era or time attacks can be good when done right. Your cut the rope, where's my water, mario knock offs , etc. the problem is that developers should incentive for going faster, not make it a limit.

[@the_ecips9692]

The "Start in VR" thingy is one checkmark in the engine that 9/10 devs simply forget to uncheck. It's a hassle every time and can be circumvented on user side by launching the games with a command (via Steam properties). Get used to this. You will encounter this "Start in VR" a LOT. To get rid of this for a game: Right click game in library > Properties > set launch options > add "-nohmd" to the command line. Start the game. Enjoy and ask yourself why the dev didn't didn't hit that little checkmark before publishing his non-VR game.

[@chaossuper7042]

10 Second Shuriken's worlds (and level selection) is extremely similar to "ClusterTruck". It's quite shocking actually.

[@TheGeladoo]

That first game looks like it was heavily inspired by Lovely Planet, though not nearly as polished

[@Geno746]

Id recommend people to check Neon White. Its Shuriken done correctly. Its kill all enemies, theres multiple weapons where each weapon has a secondary style for platforming and speedrunning. Its super fun attempting stages for a perfect run.

[@4OtDsRK1A]

Isn't it the title wrong? You already reviewed 10 second ninja

[@Graeldon]

I'd love to say that was intentional to bait comments but apparently I'm just stupid XD

[@alexbattaglia8297]

ive played enough fallout new vegas to know that explosion sound in the first game was taken from it lol

[@ziemniaczek2835]

titanfall 2 mentioned 🔥🔥🔥

[@wolfintank9629]

The steam vr is most often like 1 tickbox that they prolly forgor to turn off

[@VVen0m]

It's funny to me how Dani would make 10 second shuriken better. Twice.

[@annawanna5995]

The first game could really use some shuriken & sword speeding up. It looks like it’s so unsatisfying with the projectiles moving barely faster than yourself and the sword swinging so slowly it seems impractical and it kills whatever remained of the game’s potential.

[@Graeldon]

Absolutely! The premise itself is okay, but the implementation falls as a flat as a ninja faceplanting the ground.

[@saltysalt844]

1:00 don't forget karlson, or maybe karlson is as bad as this game idk (i don't think is this bad tho)

[@GeorgeDCowley]

TSS looks like that truck game.

[@Richardiii2]

You are very generous with those thumbs up.

[@Graeldon]

I'm not too cynical and jaded... yet

[@Fang_Tooth]

6:19 golf??

[@Graeldon]

Golf!

[@Fang_Tooth]

@@Graeldon Golf!!! :D

[@TomaszRyszkowski]

@@Fang_Tooth OMG IS THAT A golf REFFERENCE??

[@Fang_Tooth]

@@TomaszRyszkowski YES!! gogllgf :^D

[@SolariusLunarius]

I swear the 4 worlds in 10 second Shuriken are the same worlds as in Cluster Truck... Well, I mean Cluster Truck has 2 to 3 times more worlds, but either the assets come from the same packs, or this is plagiarism.

[@zelenpixel]

the first game looked kind of nauseating to play wow

[@Graeldon]

It was uncomfortable after a while, and a VR mode would definitely make anyone feel ill

[@3emad.305]

I imagine he really want to reach elden ring or something lol

[@Graeldon]

I haven't played Elden Ring yet, and with how busy life is, there is a real chance I won't get to until we reach it alphabetically lol

[@3emad.305]

@@Graeldon you might to your 40s before trying it.

[@WolfoxAS]

Hitting the 666th like is satisfying

[@ippo4502]

You lost me at dishonored being a good game

[@Graeldon]

88% critic score and 8.1/10 user score on metacritic. Overwhelmingly positive on Steam. Objectively, it's good. It's okay if you didn't enjoy it though

[@ippo4502]

@@Graeldon Made the comment mostly in jest. Though I legitimately do dislike the game a lot despite fully playing through it. Understandable the we disagree, as people tend to do in media. The Division was also one of those games I hated and never understood why people enjoyed it. Also I typed all these sentences in under 10 seconds

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[@stalebread7116]

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