Whoa, project cars is really on the details, but for Gran Turismo they put much effort for the sunlight physics, nice work for both games👏
@zsavage18202 жыл бұрын
you blind?
@BrunoGamesBlogsBrasil22 жыл бұрын
yes they put "EFFORT" to make the game look more dated with these super exaggerated glow dude this game looks like a ps3
@ArcadeX22 жыл бұрын
@@BrunoGamesBlogsBrasil2 ever realized that they made this game to make sure PS4 and PS5 players can use it? Not everyone has a PS5 dude.
@c0mmandment2 жыл бұрын
@@ArcadeX2 No need to waste ur energy just to answer their stupid reply, everyone has their own perspective and they doesn't know what is the feeling of not having the facilities, but if u have the facilities then ur ok, not like me I don't have any
@Payday52 жыл бұрын
@@BrunoGamesBlogsBrasil2 don't forget you're seeing this video on yt so obviously it would be much different if you seen it with 4k tv
@MotocrossPlays2 жыл бұрын
The problem in GT S and 7 is the lack of sense of speed in 3 person camera, the unrealistic steering wheel turn angle (you turn at full angle 180º per side, real cars and others simulators is 270º), and heavily smoothed steering wheel, giving impression that what happen in the wheel don't reflect in the steering wheel and you can't disable understeer assistance atless in joystick
@Magicandpassion2 жыл бұрын
Gt7 is more sim then project cars 3
@youngmicrowave1272 жыл бұрын
GT7 is closer to real life than PC3. Only problem with GT7 is that it has no sense of speed, unfortunately
@tyoyusuf85012 жыл бұрын
@@Magicandpassion hxhxhxhxhxbbx
@tyoyusuf85012 жыл бұрын
@@Magicandpassion your first parents?your first parents is angel satan and adam and steve
@playracegames132 жыл бұрын
@@Magicandpassion gado
@_n-Dee_2 жыл бұрын
Please compare ProjectCars2 with GT7, ..because PC3 is more Horizon inspired arcade and graphically simplified. For me PC2 is till day the best Sim(cade) with awsome detailed car sounds, satisfying sense of speed and gameplay, damage modells, best rainy weather effects in & outside, dynamic weather even snowfall, high details everywhere, some legend cars never made it to GranTurismo, and most reallife licensed racing tracks ever in a racing game .
@fizzy360wolf2 жыл бұрын
Eh PC3 seems more like Grid
@completelynothingsr.p56992 жыл бұрын
The physics of gran turismo 7 are nothing comparable to those of project cars 2 and I would even say they are on par with forza motorsport 7 and project cars 3. Also don't get carried away by other opinions, project cars 3 is a great game and a complete (simcade) just adapted in such a way that people who play on controller could enjoy that game.
@Heaven_Is_A_Wasteland2 жыл бұрын
@@completelynothingsr.p5699 Lol pc2 is way better on controller than 3 its just Boring career
@noob_driveregy77442 жыл бұрын
Project cars 3's skyline has a different vibe to it, it sounds like it's heavily tuned w the turbo spool of its which I kinda like, gran tursimo 7 makes you start from the very stock to all the way to tuning which also has a good vibe but I wish they'd step up on the crash physics more, ik this is 80% the same engine as gran turismo sport but hopefully it'll happen.
@Qimchiy2 жыл бұрын
Chances are it's not happening at least not in this generation. Few reasons, 1. Licensing for the cars, some manufacturers prefer to not have their car badly damaged apparently. 2. Polyphony clearly opted to go with spending the polygon budget on the details of the car instead of the crash model. The game is already very large. 3. Polyphony is efinitely more focused in making the car look good in perfect condition (basically reason 2 but simplified :)
@noob_driveregy77442 жыл бұрын
@@Qimchiy wow.
@ThatGuyErazo2 жыл бұрын
GT7 looks stunning, but I'll admit, the damage models and sounds in PC3 are incredible.
@didickcheeseburger2 жыл бұрын
i wish game developers would start trying to make realistic crash damage and physics and deformable tire walls that stop your car when you hit them. it could actually be kinda pleasant when you crash out of a race
@bigcut6952 жыл бұрын
The damage physics could all rely on the manufactures of vehicles not wanting their cars to heavily damaged in a video game for some reason
@didickcheeseburger2 жыл бұрын
@@bigcut695 ive been hearing that for years. i think it might be bullshit because other games with real car makes and models have better crash damage than gt
@tinuthomas5312 жыл бұрын
@@didickcheeseburger I think it’s true. I know Ferrari used to care but probably not as much anymore. It’s probably also how Polyphony gets deals with companies and manufacturers like Toyota exclusive to their game with contracts. Toyota coming back to Forza and other racing titles was a huge thing after that bit of some Toyota UK representative saying he doesn’t want their cars in games that promote illegal street racing. But as someone else mentioned, crash damage in a game like GT doesn’t make sense because they want you to race not deal with crashes. A game that knows you’ll be crashing on purpose will put in damage, but a game that discourages won’t. If GT ever does add crash damage, I’m sure it’ll be penalized way more than other games do it. Like a huge crash can just end a race for you, or you get penalties for contact. Things that make more sense in racing, not a crash damage model for the sake of visuals
@MoreBeansPlease22 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this!
@tranvinhnhat12892 жыл бұрын
The reason why GT 7 car physics is odd because the deal with FIA and manufacturers property.
@olavofernandes72862 жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with physic only crash physic is not realistic due to manufacture
@NOWAXWORKS2 жыл бұрын
@@olavofernandes7286 That has nothing to do, in fact manufacturers don't tell you not to crash their cars in the games.
@anthonyandriatsimba70862 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They want to have a very high fidelty models (a big part of what makes GT GT) and modeling what behind the bumpers, the lights, how they are attached together and so will be very time and ressources consuming. I thinks that's why there wasn't inboard view before. The car couldn't flip upsidedown too.
@johncarlofernandez26982 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyandriatsimba7086 that's a shame. They could've at least give the cars a crumpled texture if they don't want us to see what's inside the body panels. Crashing is part of reality after all so GT should simulate it properly.
@Pennycilin32 жыл бұрын
I expect racing simulators (even when GT7 isn't a true sim) to not have great damage models because the players playing these games want to race, not to crash onto each other. It's contradicting to want clean racing but at the same time wanting great damage models, because racing cleanly already tries to minimize contacts and mishaps, in which you probably will not be able to witness the damaged cars that much in your races. If you're creating a game that attracts rammers, then yeah, focus on damage models because that's what you'll see all the time.
@robertgodlewski85532 жыл бұрын
Just want to see if I have this straight. You crash the front end of a vehicle into a wall and the vehicle has damage all around? 😂
@jonzmoviebar75806 ай бұрын
to be fair, at this speed the car would be completely wrecked to pieces
@lefarron822 жыл бұрын
Project Cars 3 been king of fun and detail and put that on you!
@bernardoventura41412 жыл бұрын
Project cars 3 is the fastest feeling racing game cuz the map around you moves a bit faster than you are so it feels like your going 100kph when your at 70
@miguel29462 жыл бұрын
PC3 has many many details GT doesn’t have and also the physics are definitely TOP on both.
@markfarkas1817 Жыл бұрын
Nope pc3 is a arcade racer not more, and ist Looks Like a Game Out the ps3 era.
@stickydude8921 Жыл бұрын
@@markfarkas1817 That's right, GT7 definitely looks like a game out of the ps3 era.
@mitsuvolts0311 ай бұрын
@@stickydude8921 pc3
@nilayanghosh99022 жыл бұрын
6:17 that turn 😱 wow I will buy this... This is awesome man look at that for some second I am thinking like someone is recording this from the car
@Bruno_Laion2 жыл бұрын
Nano seconds, right?
@nilayanghosh99022 жыл бұрын
@@Bruno_Laion yep bro I brought it and I will say one of the best experience of racing... Moreover I have a steering wheel 😂
@tyoyusuf85012 жыл бұрын
hxhxhxhhxhx
@smeggysmeg28372 жыл бұрын
May be an unpopular opinion but I think Project Cars has superior physics and feel. I have both GT7 and Project Cars and gravitate much more to Project Cars (2 and 3) because it’s more immersive and realistic to me…playing with G29 wheel anyway. Can’t wait for the next Project Cars on the PS5.
@markomarko34502 жыл бұрын
Lol physics on PC (2 and 3) is shit
@smeggysmeg28372 жыл бұрын
@@markomarko3450 you’re entitled to your opinion but not many sim racing fans consider GT7 (or any GT game) a true sim. They’re more simcade games. As far as consoles go right now it’s Project Cars 2, Assetto Corsa, and AC Competizone. PC there’s a few more options in addition to those but GT7 is not among them.
@markomarko34502 жыл бұрын
@@smeggysmeg2837 "Both PC2 and GT7 are actually pretty similar in terms of driving realism despite Gran Turismo 7 having a slight edge over Project Cars 2 when it comes to car physics and accurate tire behavior. In fact, according to most sim drivers, Project Cars 2 lacks some of the very important physics, and car dynamics that you would get in real-life racing making it more difficult to drive than Gran Turismo 7. In addition to that, another area where GT7 excels over PC2 is in its tire model which provides a more accurate and predictable grip level which is crucial to finding the limit of the car." Mhm...cool
@smeggysmeg28372 жыл бұрын
@@markomarko3450 I can bounce off walls in GT7 and keep racing like nothing happened. that is not a sim. at the end of the day they’re all games though so all that matters is what you like. I found GT7 physics lacking that’s all. but a lot of it is subjective too
@markomarko34502 жыл бұрын
@@smeggysmeg2837 yes and I on ACC hit the walls with 150 mph,and I don't get a flat tire,that,s a sim?Lol bro,stupid example
@santiagoguzmansalguero16742 жыл бұрын
Pc3 is a brutal game
@recon16732 жыл бұрын
That rev limiter on PC3 🤤🤤🤤
@fizzy360wolf2 жыл бұрын
Flying at 100+ km/h into a wall of tires and no damage? Okay Mr "the real driving simulator"
@jo_xq58valkyrie215 ай бұрын
Incredible to notice that PC3 is better than GT7... But PC is not even the best of the project cars. PC1 is even better than PC3. Meaning that PC1 far older is yet potentially better than GT7 ! Time is not a guarantee of quality
@Alexis_McLaren2 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing Gran Turismo for all these details. There is no realism and accurate representation. Wrong car specs, slow animation of the driver, no feeling of speed, etc... DiRT, PJ2 (&3), F1 ☑️ Gran Turismo ❌
@olavofernandes72862 жыл бұрын
Erm gran turismo 7 is acurate yeh sure there is no crash physic due to manufacture licencing but it destroys every racing game in console
@steve1982n2 ай бұрын
PC3 wins 💪
@64Papiculo2 жыл бұрын
Damn, this GT-R bumped into a tire's pile from the front and looks like she took a stinger missile from the back 😮
@tachykard012 жыл бұрын
Gt7: can you turn off those weird camera movements in the cockpit?
@AnthonyGabriel882 жыл бұрын
Salve! Sou do Brasil :)
@TheRacingDriverYT2 жыл бұрын
*Please, do FH2 (Xbox One) vs the crew 2 attention to detail.*
@scabe89792 жыл бұрын
😐
@rustinpeace7702 жыл бұрын
What? Why lol
@gothicbump2 жыл бұрын
lol
@retrojm93302 жыл бұрын
FH2 IS A MASTERPIECE...🤨 this comparison is crazy😅😅
@yaminsahar43852 жыл бұрын
Bort good but hinest i like project cars way more
@LonelyHearts.Co242 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jaimegabriel40912 жыл бұрын
I hope that one day whoever is saying that Gran Turismo 7 is a simulator will have the opportunity to play a real one on PC
@rustinpeace7702 жыл бұрын
Gran turismo 7 is a simulator. PC doesn’t have any good simulators. Understeer doesn’t mean it’s more realistic
@jaimegabriel40912 жыл бұрын
@@rustinpeace770 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK if you say that Grand Turismo is a simulator, you certainly haven't played an Automobilista 2 in your life
@rustinpeace7702 жыл бұрын
@@jaimegabriel4091 Gran turismo is a simulator. You’ve probably never driven a real car. The majority agrees gran turismo is a simulator.
@farhana31642 жыл бұрын
@UCn2dwcvorLP-430x4Dj43uA nah, nah it's still not a fully fledged simulator and that's fine lol no need to defend it and act like it's not what it is.. the game is realistic but still accessible enough to hook in many age groups both casual and hardcore.., fully fledged sims tho, is a bit more brutal and won't bring in that many player like GT or FM series. It's not about understeer (and yes i too have driven cars) it's more about the speed catching you off guard on every corner because we lost sense of many stimulus, thus frequent understeer.
@jaimegabriel40912 жыл бұрын
@@rustinpeace770 Yes, I've driven, as I said, your problem is the limited number of options, which gives the impression of being a reasonably good game. But I say more, if it was a Ubisoft and multiplatform game, it would have a maximum of 78 on metacritic. This game would be good if released in mid-2016, in fact, since 2008 we have better simulators on PC like iRacing.
@458italiap2 жыл бұрын
Am i the only (other) one who still plays Project Cars 3?
@maVRoyal662 жыл бұрын
I stopped it after having 241 hours. Tried 5 times to get in some community racing with maybe some conpetition league going on but it was impossible due to player amount. Every single "SiMrAcInG" player spat on it and killed game imo. I still have it installed though
@458italiap2 жыл бұрын
@@maVRoyal66 yikes
@Pennycilin32 жыл бұрын
@@maVRoyal66 It's the problem of SMS branding the game as a sequel to PC2 that caused sim racers to react negatively. If they name the game to something else, it wouldn't have any problem because the fanbase would know it will be a spin-off to the series. A game title reflects the expectations of the fanbase towards the game, so having it named properly is important, especially when you are making something entirely different from what the series is known for, like moving from simulator to arcade or vice versa. A great example of a spin-off named properly is GT: Sport. I also enjoyed playing PC3 because I'm not a fan of Project Cars myself. But the thing is, you don't attract new people by taking out your own existing fanbase, and that's what PC3 is doing.
@LonelyHearts.Co242 жыл бұрын
Me to
@th3turb0lag2 жыл бұрын
Belgian? Lets go!
@v.e.s28842 жыл бұрын
Gt7 is killing it dam looks crazy but you need to c it in person on a oled tv now you really see the power off gt7 the best I aver saw in any racing game
@BrunoGamesBlogsBrasil22 жыл бұрын
Gran Turismo 7 doesn't even need to compare other racing games because they all humiliate this "New" Gran Turismo 7 even look The damage it did to the car in Project Cars 3, and in Gran Turismo 7, did absolutely no dent and a shameful call this game a "letter to motorsport"In the sense that it uses the same engine as Gran Turismo 5 and doesn't respect its franchise by putting crude minigames honestly if anyone can't understand that this game is a shame anyone who doesn't see it is deluded.
@darcytim32212 жыл бұрын
Wow project cars wins!
@markfarkas1817 Жыл бұрын
The Game looks Like 2010 horroble grafiks
@darcytim3221 Жыл бұрын
@@markfarkas1817 I agree, the main problem of this game is the graphics, even nfs shift has cleaner graphics
@Madre_Natura2 жыл бұрын
project 3 the best
@diegohenrique58932 жыл бұрын
0:28 more real than bmgdrive
@goover75332 жыл бұрын
No
@benjaminwilliams45432 жыл бұрын
Both are shocking
@dathyr16 ай бұрын
I am a PC gamer and do have Project cars 3. I would prefer GT7 vehicle physics and handling over PC3's drifting style. I think the person who designed PC3 was a Drifter and should go back to doing only Drifting type games. Ridiculous that a game is this bad. Now the lower the car categories the better they seem to feel, but they are still terrible. Who cares about graphic details if the car does not drive correctly. PC3 is definitely an Arcade game and really not a fun game to do anything with. End of story.
@lucasfreire83602 жыл бұрын
Project cars 2 looks better
@oluan2 жыл бұрын
What? Project CARS 3 is better
@darneycatimbang3861 Жыл бұрын
i have both project car wins GT 7 looks dull its too dark. if they remastered it or make a patch to fix that issue it might look good
@shaneharthhh12 жыл бұрын
See the difference of flag being waved in gran turismo 7 and pc3 at 1:05 to 1:20
Gran Turismo never gets the colour of the grass right. Always too uniformly green
@mauriciorodriguezmauricio2876 Жыл бұрын
El sonido es bueno wn ambos juegos pero de un tiempo para acá se a descuidado ese aspecto los juegos de generaciones anteriores anteriores tenían más efectos que parecen relevantes paro a la hora de jugar hacen más real el juego por ejemplo cuando uno pasaba por una tribuna se escuchaba el público gritar eso le de emocion al juego en estos juegos de ahora se ve gente en la tribuna pero todos callados sin dejar de lado que lo más importante es la jugabilidad pero son detalles importantes
@emmanuel_vendas1442 жыл бұрын
Project CARS tá bem melhor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bluamethyst31072 жыл бұрын
Hell at least the cars TURN compared to nfs shift 🤣
@rogesf2 жыл бұрын
PC Victory forever
@Daveyboy42 жыл бұрын
Thanks, looks like gt7 still understeer fest?
@jjbuu35602 жыл бұрын
GT7 looks and sounds sterile. Like the excitement and grit were sucked out of the game.
@lokndo96552 жыл бұрын
honestly project cars 3 just looks like nfs shift
@Bunster2 жыл бұрын
its what its supposed to be
@danielmeyer4162 жыл бұрын
Gran turismo 7 --------> paper cars. 😂
@gigachad597 Жыл бұрын
Fake me to project cars 3 there or always played in 4k I do not think it is of that quality 740p unless it is the pc that does not support high graphics but I can assure you that most of the community has shown a great help to add shaders is also the fog including the constellations for night races I think the video leaves out qu
@mayckonwolf2 жыл бұрын
I can't compare these 2,PC3 is a arcade game i mean totally.
@king-manu27582 жыл бұрын
And gran turismo 7 isn't? I've seen a guy win races crashing against every wall and going off in every corner. The collisions are completely horrendous. It's really a shameful game. Anyone who calls gt7 anything other than arcade is out of their minds
@f02_alexx2 жыл бұрын
@@king-manu2758 it’s not an arcade 🤣
@mondaymurder232 жыл бұрын
@@f02_alexx yes it is do you know what a rue sim looks like?
@king-manu27582 жыл бұрын
@@f02_alexx gran turismo has zero simulation. If you want simulation try assetto corsa or Iracing. You will quickly understand the difference.
@solidwisdom87492 жыл бұрын
GT7 doesn’t look and feel that great but looks really good on cockpit view and handels great. Project cars looks more superior in the track graphics layout and better camera view
@markomarko34502 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@strictlylethal Жыл бұрын
Physics is debatable, but no way you think Project Cars has better graphics than GT7 😂
@iamstartower2 жыл бұрын
now compare damage model vs beamng drive
@mercurixtremo Жыл бұрын
Es increible que el historico GT7 aun no tenga pulidas las fisicas....no los entiendo....tanto al pedo ...graficamente un lujo...las pistas en PC3 son muy exageradas las marcas q tiene...ni que fuera una pista de drift...
@LightGesture Жыл бұрын
Looks like you did GT7 on a keyboard. Lmfao. Ngl, GT has COMPLETELY lost a fan. Last game I played was 4, because they said wed have damage. Never got it.....ooowee, glass shattered... thrn 5... then 6. Then sport... and still looks crisp'n clean..but looks awfully arcade like and handles funny as hell. Pretty disappointed because i ignorantly bought Sport. Then bought 7 and just disappointed. Id rather spend $160 on a used xbox and Forza, than digital version of GT7 with their bs dlc package
@edsondossantos95662 жыл бұрын
Gran turismo 7 és o rei 👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
@alvaronunez95442 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@BrunoGamesBlogsBrasil22 жыл бұрын
Yes is the king of being outaded and plays like a crap,Bro Try Asseto Corsa or Forza Motorsport 7 Because Gran Outaded 7 Is a SHAME of a Motorsport Game and Desrespectfully this dead Franchise.
@LonelyHearts.Co242 жыл бұрын
In terms of graphics gt takes the cake ofc...but the engine sounds in pc3 are brutal.
@palamuni2 жыл бұрын
pues, asi visto, mucho mejor PC3
@Esnake172 жыл бұрын
Gran turismo 7🤮🤢💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
@chunchangliu68402 жыл бұрын
GT7 looks so real hat it makes their game look like joke
@skatellites66122 жыл бұрын
GT looks like a cartoon, and bad camera
@karthikk1812 жыл бұрын
@@skatellites6612 we can adjust camera, you clown
@sergio_-.2 жыл бұрын
I think that skyline in project cars3 isn't stock
@sergio_-.2 жыл бұрын
(I think this comparison is fake)
@igormenezes..2 жыл бұрын
I dont like GT07 because this!
@HaunterMusicDJ2 жыл бұрын
these are both ps4 versions
@o3en_games9002 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter 🤣 GT7 is clear
@AlexSandro-sw5pd2 жыл бұрын
Não sei qual é pior um bate não amassa o outro bate a frete amassa a traseira lol
@johnwick52932 жыл бұрын
Gt7 🤮
@nilayanghosh99022 жыл бұрын
Hey u r only telling it bad by seeing the damage feature, it is totally different and better game... Once u play it u will understand. I think u will not try to crash between races
@gguestiongues2 жыл бұрын
cry about it
@adityakees97062 жыл бұрын
are you sick with fortrash?
@NANOmasion2 жыл бұрын
very strange comparison
@isabella_nue2 жыл бұрын
igual GTA sa, bate na frente quebra atras
@isabella_nue2 жыл бұрын
@CaerHunter po cara, comprei o game no PS5, y eu me arrependi fortemente com essa cagada de 350,00 sou sonysta e reconheço que o game ta uma merda… mas deixando claro que não eh a sony a desenvolvedora, não é pq um jogo é ruim que tds são… em questão ao GT7… 🤢
@isabella_nue2 жыл бұрын
@CaerHunter eh nois meu mano kkkkkj tristeza, errando que se aprende
@darknessmusic27792 жыл бұрын
In project cars is tuned and in gran turismo no
@ugurarslan2552 жыл бұрын
( Beautiful )
@458italiap2 жыл бұрын
The only reason i don't like Project Cars 3 is because of the rain, and the rain basically makes it so what you're seeing is 1 bit
@NDroidgamer2 жыл бұрын
Que camara más horrible la del GT7...
@multipal52072 жыл бұрын
Stop the count!
@creativelyunoriginal2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Gt7 sucks.
@verguco60512 жыл бұрын
grand turismo rain looks like shit, project cars beat the shit out of it
@blacksonikh45962 жыл бұрын
Project cars 2 is better it even has wind
@jhondiick42022 жыл бұрын
Project cars looks like a mobile game lmfao
@bigcut6952 жыл бұрын
The exterior camera on gt7 is throwing me off and pc3 isn’t any better
@257sombra Жыл бұрын
gt7 trash since 25 years ago n it will always be a simcada game. dont know why gt claims to be a sim game when it never has been one
@uevortex29582 жыл бұрын
PC3 looks way more better. I said LOOKS better. Gameplay is worse than GT Sport.
@smokemk62 жыл бұрын
GT7 is dead
@zsavage18202 жыл бұрын
Gran Turismo needs to stay on the kiddy consoles ... THE END
@nilayanghosh99022 жыл бұрын
Shup up bud play it ones . I bet u will can't stop playing it
@chunchangliu68402 жыл бұрын
Forza looks like shit
@TheDude-xp4vb2 жыл бұрын
Bruh we all are gamer, there's no need a war. Just play what you like
@king-manu27582 жыл бұрын
I've been a PlayStation owner for many years and I'm ashamed of gt7.
@zsavage18202 жыл бұрын
@@nilayanghosh9902 I already tried it and deleted it within 20 mins it's GARBAGE hell Codemasters Dirt 1 is better than this shitfest Turdismo 7 so stick that in your juicebox and SUKIT!
@dylantero429010 ай бұрын
y eso que project car 3 es una basura...
@nottherishov64152 жыл бұрын
Project cars 3 is hot garbage
@peppe601782 жыл бұрын
2 giochi completamente diversi di cui uno è storia e l'altro no