Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S2:E8

[@Odysseus1999]

What I like about this series is it’s not only us learning things, it’s also Greg. He didn’t think to check the AIO for clogging, now he does.

[@brandolu5348]

The white stuff stacked in the aio is caused by using a wrong ratio of aluminum radiator and a copper block (msi did the same thing too and RMAed it 2Al + 3CuO → Al2O3 +3Cu

[@brandolu5348]

@@mikeycrackson yep they probably failed chemistry

[@peterstainburn2871]

That’s probably what is causing the red bits in the fluid too. As the aluminium reacts with the copper then it causes bits of copper to break loose.

[@watchandjewelryloft4713]

@@mikeycrackson Many do. Happens in many industries. Really lame. They choose to save a few cents per unit and couldn't care less about the customer. Lovely.

[@WhySoSeriousGM]

Yep after a year my msi aio made the exact same rattling noise and i thought it was a wire touching something too

[@andrewmcewan9145]

Copper rads are too expensive for aios. There are anticrossive additives like glycol. Unfortunately it took asiteck a long time to get the ratios right. And there are still batches that get it wrong.

[@owenmccall4279]

Just built my first pc a couple days back. I love it so much. Gonna say that watching your videos helped me build it in a breeze. Few month ago I had no clue how a pc ran but now I can build them. 😂

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks for the viewership, Owen! Glad you're happy with your build!

[@TerraWare]

Nice congratulations. I built my first 2 years ago, I know the feeling, especially when it first turns on lol.

[@thecrwster]

What's is your pc specs? Also glad your having fun with it!

[@rooksisfuniii]

Awesome. It is so much fun. I built my first over 25 years ago and still love doing it. Maybe too much :)

[@thecrwster]

@@rooksisfuniii make videos about it. People find it intresting

[@moviebros8657]

I absolutely love these videos and this series has actually helped me whenever my pc would freeze when starting windows and when I was on chrome it shut down and wouldn’t post and both times I used the classic technic of clearing the cmos that I learned from this series and it worked like a charm.

[@GregSalazar]

Glad to help!

[@BoykaTheRonin]

It's sad to see an AIO go like that, it is fixable but not everyone is going to be able to do it, so it is a big issue. Keep up the great videos Greg!

[@brikt8826]

you spoiled the video. Didn't have time to go fullscreen before I seen this

[@Middcore]

It was a 120mm AIO, it was useless from the start (even if it hadn't been pulling air in).

[@outphase78]

@@brikt8826 Don't read comments before watching the video.

[@davapod]

@@Middcore 120mm AIOs are a total waste of time and money

[@MarshalBeard]

It really is a shame. I still have a 10 year old Corsair H80 running on my old gaming build with a 3770k running 4.8GHz. That thing STILL runs like a charm. Mind you, there is a lot of air in the loop from evaporation over a decade, but temps don't exceed 75c which is extraordinary for a 120mm AIO on a CPU running 1.48V.

[@jacobsparks4419]

I like the idea of checking to see how many of these aio's on the market are having these issues, its baffling to see all that crud inside of these that definitely shouldn't be there!

[@TalesOfWar]

The joys of mixing metals!

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Avoid the cheap junk ones like MSI that have the pump in the radiator. Stick with Corsair or Arctic Freezer.

[@mutley69]

@@StormsparkPegasus or just go with air, less stress and sometimes even better than AIOs

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@@mutley69 Not really. They are bulky and block RAM slots. There aren't really any good designs anymore either.

[@mutley69]

@@StormsparkPegasus I agree although both can be bulky as hell, depends which company you go for. Those noctua air coolers are insanely quiet and really good performance wise.

[@ethanlancelot3225]

Thanks for another fix or flop Greg! These are my favorite!

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks for watching them! :-)

[@kennymilsom]

@@GregSalazar Hey /greg ,, By any chance, did you read my email ? Thanks

[@luminousmoon86]

I knew the minute I saw "iBuyPower" it was the AIO. I had a similar issue on a computer I bought from them that was less than a year old. The AIO was a 240 mm. At first I wasn't sure what was going on because it actually wasn't "overheating" per se when idling or doing light tasks like web browsing. Just running hotter than before. It was idling at like 35-40 degrees and while web browsing it would fluctuate between 45 and 60. Which seems a bit warm but not dangerous. But here's where it got weird. It was overheating like over 80 degrees (celsius) after waking up from sleep, and if I did more intensive stuff like in photoshop or blender it overheated into the 90s. Tested with Cinebench and got instant temps in the mid 90s. It was technically under warranty but they wanted me to send the whole PC back to California at my expense with no guarantee on when they'd get it back to me, so I just decided to replace the AIO myself and see if that was the issue. I went with an ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II, and since I had the room, I got the 360. It must have been something wrong with the iBuyPower AIO because after installing the Arctic, all the temp problems I was having evaporated. Now I'm idling at 29-30 degrees and even when running multiple passes in Cinebench I don't get above 65 degrees. The bizarre overheating after sleep issue is gone too. Maybe I'll try and take the old one apart like you did and see if mine had similar issues. It might be, since the pump always felt like it was working.

[@matthewh7529]

That's crazy to see new AIOs messing up so quickly. I definitively would like to see you restore the AIO in another video. This video made me thing of my AIO, I have a Corsair H100i that I bought back in 2014 and its still kicking. Cooled my 3770k and now my 10700k perfectly.

[@smipy]

Old is gold

[@benson556]

yup only ran corsair. i think icue is little but wonky software but the hardware is solid.

[@TheSjuris]

It’s not really a new aio. IBuyPower has used that particular model for years since it’s easy to acquire and cheap.

[@pocpc1788]

You're lucky, my first AIO dead after a year.

[@ToomanyFrancis]

I had a kraken x40 bought in 2013 cooling my 3770k up until I switched to AM4 a few weeks ago. I even left it running 24/7 for a good while. I could probably switch it over and get a few more years out of it if I ordered an AM4 mounting bracket.

[@tlgeorge59]

Good choice for review. During build process these closed loop AIO devices should be flushed well before final fill occurs. Sometimes a shortcut happens, and contamination is left inside the system.

[@seisusunn5368]

Just clicked play, let's hope this aio isn't filled with gunk

[@GregSalazar]

_heh_

[@averykerns7282]

i bought an aio as well and i’m waiting for it to ship but i really hope it’s not full of gunk

[@mrinconvenience4398]

Seeing that video made me change my 5 year old one lmfao I realized my computer was hitting 125c on 2 cores but after swap a cool 40-60

[@lilsoonerfaninmo]

It's why I'm hesitant to grab one .... especially if it's from MSI

[@remwastaken]

​@@mrinconvenience4398125? How did it survive at that temp???

[@sethkang4410]

i had the same problem a week ago. and the problem was my stock cpu intel cooler. thank god it was a simple fix. i learned a lot from gregs videos

[@GamerErman2001]

Intel stock coolers aren't that great for most of their CPUs.

[@videogamefreak221122]

@@GamerErman2001 they’re fine for the non k skus that they come with, as long as you’re okay with some noise

[@sethkang4410]

@@GamerErman2001 i know but how the heck it broke down like that in 1 week of getting purchased lol

[@vineet1108]

@@videogamefreak221122 my i5 10400f(with the stock intel cooler) touches 90° c when rendering videos or when pushing it to its limit, so yea those crappy coolers are only good for i3s or older i5s

[@criznittle968]

stock cpu intel coolers are known for getting that gunk build-up in the waterblock and pump, it happens to the best of us

[@qT_p13]

A while back there was a kitguru review I read that showed very poor performance of their msi coreliquid aio unit, but they didn't open it and inspect anything but more or less wrote it off as a bad sample. I would say your video pushed msi into thinking that maybe they should check into it. Keep up with your work it helps in ways you don't even know sometimes

[@0oDanceDanceo0]

I find it so interesting that AIOs can even do this, my previous PC was using a H60 for 5 1/2 years and I never had this issue, hope that still holds up with my h150i in my new system.

[@amarzuhdi5944]

do you think that this was caused by aio that have pump on the radiator, if the pump at the cpu block it self, will it be the same problem?

[@criznittle968]

@@amarzuhdi5944 If it has anything to do with the pump being on the radiator, why? How does that cause additional build-up? I really want to know if there's a reason this would happen

[@t3amb4sh]

I 've been using an H150i pro for 3.5 years now, still holds up really well with an overclocked 8700K. I also find it interesting and BAD, at the same time, that life has been growing inside an AIO :p

[@amarzuhdi5944]

@@criznittle968 yeahh i been thinking the same, i thought that pump being at the radiator might contribute something but it does not seem right. Maybe it what greg say it was because of water that wasnt treated properly

[@amarzuhdi5944]

@@t3amb4sh i been using aio also right now for 2 years+, just worried that it may happen to me also cause it was brand that wasn’t really famous

[@spicyski8628]

Awesome video. I really enjoy learning stuff from this channel keep it up dude 👍👍

[@GregSalazar]

Thank you!

[@albertbazinyan7790]

i love this series, its always a mystery and keeps me guessing on whats the actual problem!

[@kzhein007]

That Vcore voltage is scary high imo. Even for ryzen.

[@mikex4941]

The bios just shows the boost voltages when using PBO. It doesn't show when it goes down to low voltages which it does on Windows. And zen chips can safely hit 1.5v-1.6v IF they are observing FIT limits. I think you may be referring to those voltages being dangerous if you set those on a fixed overclock, not PBO.

[@pocpc1788]

Ryzen X CPU are known for over voltage at stock.

[@apertaplays]

Engineers: this is the right voltage so it works safe. People on internet: its high hur dur, i know its high because an yotuber did an undervolt and he proved to me that 1.4 volt is high.

[@hudsonrobb1309]

Yep, I have had this problem for almost a year, trying and trying, then I happened to come across this video. Same exact problem but 3x worse. What a lifesaver, thanks heaps Greg!!

[@vest816]

I had the same problems a year ago when I bought an iBuyPower PC from Costco. I booted it up, and right out of the box, the pump was making a clicking whirring noise before Post. My PC was idling at 60C just like in the video, but this PC was fresh off the shelf! I did some investigating, and found the same thing with the fans pointing the wrong way, and at that point decided to completely abandon that PC, lest I find out where else iBP messed up on the build. The fact iBP prebuilts are having these AIO and fan problems on brand new computers speaks volumes about their quality control. Unfortunately, I was in a "I need a good PC literally right now" emergency, and swapped it out with...sigh...ANOTHER iBuyPower prebuilt PC. These chip shortages, man. But I guess this second PC was an unexpected redemption for iBP, because it booted without any issues and has been serving me quite well ever since.

[@servant6666]

I had the same problem with my stock AIO cooler from IBUYPOWER. Started to do the same noise but my temp was still good. I changed it but while doing some research, I founded out that a fair bit of people had the same problem.

[@luispereira3951]

Same !!

[@evan2.030]

My favorite series on youtube rn also i built my first pc a couple months ago. i got the best i can afford with a i3 10100f and a 1650 :)

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

Congrats, unfortunately that's the cheapest you can get right now. Just gotta keep on saving money for upgrading

[@evan2.030]

@@TheBlueBunnyKen yeah luckily I had my 1650 before the prices went up I got it for 250 cad and it's at like 450 cad now so I'm pretty lucky

[@Benediktus-uy1ck]

Nice, congrats on your new pc

[@TheBojengles]

Love this channel, love this series. You should definitely consider making a quick vid flushing, refilling, and restoring this AIO.

[@katalinks]

"IBuyProblems" as The Greatest Technician that ever Lived says

[@peapant]

ive rewatched this series so many times and it gets better every time

[@sadious3241]

Love this series by far best pc content on youtube

[@GregSalazar]

Oh wow, thanks!

[@nickgorney1264]

NZXT Kraken M22 was mine that had the same issue, I have since replaced it however still have the aio.

[@nickgorney1264]

The cooler didn’t even last half a year.

[@TheLiquidoChannel]

I Had Same AIO, and it started making that sound on the radiator 4 months after I bought it, and 2-3 months after the sound issues appeared I Started to have hightemps Issues besides thermal throttling, I Asked for an RMA to my retailer near of 2 months ago. they asked me to send the AIO to them 2 days after I Asked for the RMA, then they told me that they sent the AIO to the service center of the brand and it arrive to the service center 5 days after the retailer sent it to them and just a week ago they answer to me saying that the service center of the brand authorized a refund and the retailer refund me 3 days ago. Fun thing is that in an old build I have a Cooler master Seidon 240mm what I Bought in 2014 and until now I Haven't any high temp Issue.

[@adamg2882]

I admire the oldschool runescape hot water icon on the thumbnail

[@GregSalazar]

A man of culture, I see.

[@farmboy805]

@@GregSalazar do you play? Lol

[@Wacky_Bud]

I had the exact same problem with the ibuypower AIO and it started after 16 months of use. I got a similar cooler that you used as a replacement. Didn't even try to clean it out. Thanks for the video

[@Pushzeen]

I have the Dark Rock Slim myself, and it works amazingly! I love your videos Greg, they help me learn lots for future troubleshooting errors that may arise anywhere!

[@niromanti5935]

Your videos are amazing and so informative! I built my very first desktop pc a few weeks ago and I learned pretty much everything I needed to know from your fix or flop series. I've been loving my pc and now that I've built one I have a greater appreciation for what you do here on KZbin.

[@TravelingTaco86]

Seeing this is very concerning especially since most companies get their AIO coolers made from the same manufacturers just with their logo or twist on them. I have never liked AIO coolers myself due to there being many points of failure. But this, this brings up a whole new point of failure that is not caused by the user but by the manufacturers. A lot of Noctua Air Coolers can keep a CPU as cool as 360 AIO's I get that it might not look cool but to anyone new to PCs or someone that just wants a PC that they can build and forget it for the next 5 years getting a Air Cooler is definitely the way to go.

[@zachariahberger4260]

It definitely is, I actually had the same thing happen to MSI MPG 360mm AIO that was featured in the last AIO replacement video you did! I just ended up buying a Be quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 for easier maintenance

[@johnsteburg5880]

I'm using the same air cooler on a 12700k and having no issues with it running at stock speed.

[@cael_1303]

I love the AIO idea you have. I finally got my build up and running and I ran Cinebanch R23 last night. 48C was the hottest my CPU got and I ran the 30 minute test so I was pleasantly surprised, and this was with me forgetting to take the dust filter off of the top of my PC (I have the AIO top mounted). Coming from my old computer having idle temps in the 70s... I love the upgrade lol. From now on I will be monitoring stuff like that. I am running the Enermax III RGB version (got it at a discount before I knew the difference between RGB and ARGB.. it's the only drawback because it's more for me to figure out and it's the only non ARGB component in my pc) and so far it works like a charm.

[@captainminxley]

After having seen two of your FoF videos now, where an AiO that had the pump in the rad has been clogged with organic crap, I'm returning my new MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 and have bought an EK AiO Basic instead. Thanks for the good work, Greg.

[@ItsReaxxion]

i think the OEM of this AIO is the same as the msi one, because both has the same fluid color (yes that can be different oem vs oem) and pump desings.

[@lmChance]

I had this same issue with the IBP pump. From my research its a rebranded NZXT Kraken M22 as they operate out of the same building.

[@Flammberger]

My Enermax Liqmax III RGB 240 AIO died as well recently - 9 months in use - sound was pretty much the same as in the video. After watching your first video I went back to air cooling with the Cooler Master MA612 too. Ive already got a replacement for the AIO by my dealer (German laws are very consumer friendly) - but Im not planning to put it into my system again.

[@jaytoney3007]

Great Video! AIOs have improved, but I am not a big fan of them. Unless you are doing extreme overclocking, they are not needed. A good quality air cooler will keep your CPU within a few degrees centigrade of an AIO. If the fan fails, it has the advantage of providing passive cooling and is an easy, inexpensive repair.

[@jaytoney3007]

@@philiprobar Gamer's Nexus does extreme overclocking. Most people don't. The siituation doesn't apply.

[@philiprobar]

@@jaytoney3007 Not true. Gamers' Nexus concentrates on detailed, accurate reviews and they regularly comment on price to performance ratio. Unless it is the specific topic of a video, overclocking is usually only a small part of most reviews.

[@philiprobar]

I'm not a water cooling fan boy. I've never used it in a personal build. Gamers' Nexus advice can be summarized as follows: A good AIO has the advantage of being able to, in general, run quieter as they provide good cooling with lower fan speeds and are better able to absorb short term spikes in heat production without having to speed up their fan(s). Avoid the least expensive, no-name AIOs. Other than a couple of well know screwups by well known companies AIOs have very low failure rates and will last for years. If you're going cheap use air cooling, something like the Vetroo V5, Hyper 212, etc. (There are several very good $20-$40 coolers.) For mid and high end it's a toss up depending on numerous factors that each user will have to decide on: your risk profile, available space, overclocking, personal preference, etc.

[@kittoooo1038]

I am always looking forward in the new videos in this playlist.... really useful and easy to understand... makes troubleshooting set ups easier!

[@rexyoshimoto4278]

Great job. I never took an AIO apart but now I can see what you did and how I can fix mine in the future. Thanks bud!

[@The636R]

I had the same problem in my NZXT Kraken ML120. The noise was similar and the temperature problem as well. There was a lack of coolant after one year but was possible to replace it. There were a lot of particles and dirty inside and the fact is that the parts of the MSI seems to be exactly the same than in the Kraken. Now the AIO is maintaining the CPU cold and working properly. Great job Greg, congrats!

[@jeehoonoh]

Personally never had a good experience with any single fan radiator coolers. They heat up real quick even in a push pull fan setup. That Dark Rock Slim was a HUGE upgrade

[@TheSjuris]

Better off with a good air cooler over a 120mm aio. Not surprised that IBuypower did this.

[@jordanlazarus7345]

A single fan AIO is like one of those bolt on chrome exhaust tips, it just looks fancy and doesn't help performance. Cheap AIO's are for the ricers of the PC gaming community.

[@TheSjuris]

@@jordanlazarus7345 it checks off a box because gamers like AIOs and they look nice, but a 120mm one is meant for a small form factor case where the options for cooling are much more restricted. In a mid to large tower case all it does is look good.

[@jeehoonoh]

@@spankbuda3084 I had a 4790k at the time. No OC'ing but turbo boost was enabled. The case was a NZXT Phantom. I just used the stock fans for the case. For the AIOs I always used the fans that it came with.

[@ZackMuffinMan]

My Corsair h100i v2 has been running for 5 years with 10+ hours of use a day and still going strong. Ryzen 7 1700X idles at 32 degrees and under a full load barely hits 70.

[@wraps0389]

I just want u to know that what u are doing for the viewers are amazing. Getting pc help can be slim to non for a lot of people and u giving them a chance is amazing. Keep it up bro love the series 👍

[@BamaShanks]

I had the exact same problem with my iBuyPower AIO. Also my case fans were making a similar sound in this video. Every couple of months they start making a clipping/grinding sound and needed to be replaced. I swapped the AIO for a Noctua Air cooler and the case fans for Corsair ll120.

[@MrDeathstab]

Clicked cause of the Oldschool Runescape Bowl of Hot water thumbnail 🤣

[@Willray1983]

I had the exact same issue, and sound, with my iBuyPower. I ended up replacing the AIO with a Fractal 240 AIO. Took care of the problem immediately. I learned a lot fixing the problems on that thing. Not exactly ideal for an SI, but it taught me valuable lessons.

[@Dj-sf7or]

I would love to see you make a video of you fixing that AIO, I’ll definitely watch it

[@ssegraves]

I just had a very similar noise in a 240mm AIO from iBuyPower as well. Noticed my temps spiking at idle and decided to swap the AIO and problem solved. The iBuyPower AIO was less than a year old and was of the same design where the pump sits inside the radiator.

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

Calling something "broken" isn't PC. I would refer to it as "Thermally Challenged".

[@Snafu2346]

"isn't PC". I get it. its a joke right? PC? Politically Correct. PC Personal computer. haha.

[@maleeshapriyanjana7604]

The way you poped up behind the computer is amazing

[@OccamAsylum]

In a time like this where everything is becoming more expensive, you provide a valuable service to your community. PC gaming is definitely a luxury we take for granted so if someone can get their PC fixed without replacing major components it is a major win! Thank you for what you do.

[@maurocontreras9628]

I honestly initially just subscribed because of the NZXT giveaway. But now I’ve binged and finished Season 1 and all the episodes on Season 2. I have learned a lot for the PC build I’m doing for my son and for possible troubleshooting in the future. This is one subscription I do not at all regret.

[@chrisg5352]

I appreciate the educational content behind all of these videos. Much love from East O-Town!!

[@gucky4717]

The noise comes from the Pump. That sound are airbubbles trapped in the Pump. I had that noice at my first AIO as well...that one died after 3 Months. It was an AIO with the Pump in the block...possibly something got into the bearing and rhe noice from that grinding.

[@shaneelnand9350]

Was yours 120mm? Mine did the same. Very common issues with these 120mm AIO’s

[@griffin20]

My MSI AIO is still going strong after two years with my 10850k. I have never had any heat problems, but as soon it starts to give me problems, I am going with an Air cooler. I also learned most manufactures use the same AIO just rebadged.

[@seffie4872]

I have the same aio and was having the same noise and noticed my cpu Temps were starting to act weird so thank you for solving my problem for me!

[@matwell83]

No B.S. got a ibuypower pc from there website 7months ago, had the same problem you had here! Had a 240mm aio in the front doing a push pull config, bought a Noctua nh-d15s and temp went from 72c in bios to a fantastic 36c! Watch out for ibuypower peeps.

[@link10005]

My ibuypower pc was having the same issues and it was a AIO that they included. I have a very similar set up as this user so I think that there might be something wrong with their AIOs of that time frame. Also watching your videos helped me fix mine so thank you for the awesome content!

[@luispereira3951]

Should of tried to fix mine I just bought another one

[@MmmmmmmmEarHair]

Just bought the electric duster that you use cause I've been needing a good one instead of buying canned air and just disassembled my whole pc and gave it a good cleaning. So much better and faster than canned air because you don't have to wait for it to warm back up after each use. Absolutely loving it!

[@Kraven82_IVXX]

Thank you for this video. I have had my gaming pc from this exact same manufacturer about 2 1/2 years and this happened to me recently. I will be replacing my aio with this dark rock slim.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Greg, That Gunk build up in the AIOs is like what GN Steve found in the Apr 26, 2019 "Enermax's AIO Gunk Problem: Liqtech TR4 Cooler After 18 Months" which has the 'Pump in Block' layout. That Gunk is more likely from there not being enough antifungal in the fluid, I have opened my DeepCool Captain (over 5yrs old when I refilled it due to low Fluid Level) & many Coolermaster AIOs that are many years old to customise them & have not seen any Fungal Build up like this.

[@endall39]

Would like to see you call-out these manufacturers more and follow-up with contacting them and getting them to recognize their fatally flawed products and commit to change. That may not be in your choses wheelhouse, but your subscriber base level gives you real influence in this space.

[@MyDigitalParadise]

My Corsair H110 AIO is 6 years old and still running strong! Got an H115 in my new system. My son is using the old for WOW with no issues.

[@javexhorge1133]

dude I love the rate you're pumping out videos, always look forward to em.

[@bjmyers5033]

It's crazy, I literally and in the middle of this problem with my IBP computer.. Waiting on my NH d15 to show up it's been 2 weeks waiting on it. Got a Ryzen 5 5900x (from 5600x) on the way too.. if I gotta take it out, might as well upgrade.

[@eclipzki]

Same thing was happening with my Kraken M22 AIO but after I replaced the AIO temps went down I've only had my current PC for 6 months and It began doing this, my CPU temps were reaching up to 100* before & I had tried reseating the cooler and reapplying thermals but nothing worked. I love your videos as well!

[@TheSjuris]

That iBuyPower AIO is a rebranded Kraken m22. Real easy for them to get and rebrand them.

[@asehome2527]

Glad I went with a asetek gen 7 pump AIO instead of these ones that relocate it. I'm glad it has gotten exposure for a somewhat cheap out of a dominating patent that has been apart of the industry for a long time.

[@Morgja]

I had this same problem with the MSI MAG Coreliquid 360R, lasted about 5 months. Went back to air cooling.

[@jwhkg]

Love this series!❤️ very knowledgeable. Sadly I have suspected the exact same issues from my Enermax AIO last month, been used for a year...luckily I can just sent it back to the supplier and replace with a new one. But tbh...might consider changing back to air cooler after this new AIO is broke again, a bit worried about water cooling now

[@gaucker398]

I built my first PC a few months ago in the bequiet! 500DX case that you advertised in the beginning of the video. I cannot recommend it enough! Great flow, quiet fans, dust filtration is solid, and imo its one of the best looking cases out there.

[@shiaranocturna6924]

Hi greg, I actually had the same issue last year, I purchased the MSI Mag series 240R and installed it, after 3 months I noticed high temps and games running sluggish, took out the AIO and RMA'ed it through MSI, they replaced it within 2 weeks, but never reinstalled it, went back to my tower cooler that I was using before, same situation, pump is in the radiator, I thought possibly I had installed it incorrectly, but this vid proves otherwise, keep up the good work sir and thank you for your consistent content.

[@shiaranocturna6924]

Sorry just now checked this, not sure what you mean by won a gift lol

[@703eman]

Just finished my build today luckily no problems throughout a whole day of use loving pc gaming so far

[@TheKansasDude]

About 6 months ago, my 6 year old 980 Ti Hybrid had started to run a bit warmer than usual. Thankfully I caught it early on. I suspected that the flow was being restricted. So I pulled the cold plate and found gelatin like substance had clogged the channels inside the plate. Almost identical to what I see in the video. I cleaned it up the best I could and filled it back up. It has been running nice and cool since then. _Knocks on wood_

[@josephhoward8304]

After one year of use my IBuyPower AIO did exactly the same thing - clicking began and overheating. Thankfully, it was under warranty so I got replacement. However, I still upgraded to an Artic Freezer II before the provided replacement AIO arrived.

[@NucklesVault]

Awesome video! What would you look out for if the graphics card was running really hot (3080) when idle?

[@DiagolonRider]

make sure the fans are all working. you could take it apart and check all the thermal pads, make sure they're good and all making contact and finally, check/repaste the thermal paste.

[@chloeprice8]

that grinding sound was actually a worn out pump. have a old corsair one that does the same thing. it does run but not efficient and randomly sticks. if the block is with the coldplate sideways or downward its not too bad but if you tilt the plate up it grinds like mad. the corrosion/groath you found in the loop was just an extra problem

[@lilchris26]

No complaints of the Corsair H100i gtx AIO I installed with my i7 4790k in 2015. I have just diss-assembled that computer and it was working fine. I did notice some brown gunge on the radiator fins so maybe it was starting to leak. Gone back to a air cooler on my new build.

[@m8x425]

Before you even mentioned overheating.... I took one look at the solid front panel and big GPU and wondered if that's the case. ibuypower is the culprit. Does ibuypower ship out systems with that poor of cable management?

[@SiqFix]

This why I stick to air coolers. FSP Windale 6 is a beast of a cooler for $40-50. Also the fan is quite comes with anti vibration mount system.

[@khellyndros]

I had the same issue with a SilverStone PF360-ARGB after a little over a year of use. Went with a Corsair replacement, no regrets so far.

[@JonathanBradysouth-africa]

7th video of this playlist watched in a single day. Loving these. Subbed.

[@GregSalazar]

Welcome aboard!

[@JonathanBradysouth-africa]

Thank you @@GregSalazar! These are verry instructive and helpful for me given I own two editing/gaming rigs. One, a 3080ti with a 13700K and 128GB DDR4 (Trident Z) at the office, the other a 5900x paired with a 3060ti and 64GB Viper Steel DDR4 at home.

[@hedonistic_mushroom]

Another great video. Keep at it my man. Would you make a video about resurrecting AIOs like these? You posed a good question, "why does the gunk always build up in the fin stack at the cold plate block when the pump is in the rad." My thinking is that, the fin stack area probably has the lowest pressure along the path even when clean, being so far away from the pump that's churning away. The fins and chambers in the block increase surface area for thermal transfer but also creates some resistance. So when gunk or algae build up in the loops (coolant probably doesn't have enough anti-microbials), they often settle in the areas with the lowest pressure where the water is less choppy. From there it snowballs until the block is saturated with the gunk. Not sure if that's the case but I'm just an armchair scientist.

[@aaronrobinson3295]

Literally my problem right now, honestly the reason why I’m binge watching all your videos funny enough, from Montana and heading to Orlando for a trip. My cpu over heats, geek squad said my AIO is fine, I got it back and in my bios it shows 0rpm for me pump. Literally same AIO as this video except I have a 240mm

[@melissavantassel4215]

Appreciate your video so much Greg! I have an msi coreliquid 240r that has been making the same sound as the aio in this video. I only purchased it last July. I had no clue there was a recall on them, and will be sure to submit my serial number for a replacement. Thank you!

[@Nick-H-77]

Just installed a Dark Rock Slim myself on a new i5-12600k build. They're great looking and almost silent. Idles between 30-40C. You can even add a second Silent Wings 3 fan on the other side in a push-pull config too for even better temps.

[@suffer8318]

Im not sure if i'll ever do an AIO again all i've had is issues with them and this was the first build I ever used one in, rather just use air..

[@sandmann521]

The problem is galvanic corrosion caused by fluid with insufficient corrosion inhibitors. This cooler and the MSI one from a few weeks back are both made by the same OEM, a manufacturer called Apaltek. They are the same manufacturer that made the Enermax Liqtech TR4 coolers that Gamers Nexus investigated for the same failures a couple years ago. In October 2021, Igorslab published an article titled (in English) "When the OEM slackens or saves money - AiO compact water cooling systems with pre-programmed expiry date and an example from our lab", which highlights the same problem from the same manufacturer. Great work again Greg. Your continuing coverage in this series may lead to serious changes at Apaltek. MSI stepped up quickly with their recall, seemingly in response to your video, hopefully iBUYPOWER and other companies using Apaltek as an OEM do the same.

[@buthers_]

I have one Ibuypower PC as well and the water cooler had the same problem. I just got an Air Cooler from Cooler Master and fixed everything. 120mm Water Cooler for that processor is not enough.

[@lovecubby]

4 months ago, I also had a customer with an identical iBuyPower Prebuit with the 120mm AIO and the loud clicking noise. Swapped it with Cooler Master Air cooler and temperatures was great. Did take the AIO apart but couldn't find the cause of the clicking noises.

[@dsvensen75]

I'm using either custom waterloop (EKWB) or an aircooler. I have used AIO's in earlier builds, but I got the same problem as in this video. And this is your second clogged AIO tells me that you should keep away from AIO's. I love this series of videos where you try to fix viewers broken systems. Keep up the good work! :)

[@PileOfEmptyTapes]

IgorsLab reckons the gunk has to do with flux residue from radiator production (and the mix of Cu and Al is not helping matters). It's hard to tell from the outside, but since we can assume that the AIO in a prebuilt will be no more expensive than absolutely necessary it's quite likely the same applies to its radiator. BTW, I hope you went in there and fixed the stupid overclocking settings as well. There is absolutely no reason for Vcore to sit at 1.462 V on the BIOS screen, or ever. Shouldn't you be keeping Ryzens below 1.35 V or so at all times if I am not mistaken? That certainly wouldn't have been helping the overheating issue. Could be 20-30 W in "idle" like that. I would reset everything to be running at manufacturer spec, turn on all the power saving functions that are commonly left turned off (e.g. PCIe ASPM, package C-states up to C5 since C6 can be troublesome on Ryzen (*)), and then possibly give the thing a bit of undervolting via offset so you can get higher clocks out of the power target. The fan curves could probably use a bit more TLC as well, I mean why was the exhaust fan on fixed RPM mode to begin with? *) I have some theories on that, including entering C6 while a PCIe link is still up or XMP not allowing the memory to clock down, but it could also just be a plain bug, though I have my doubts there. I would much rather trust in the incompetence of PC board manufacturers when it comes to BIOS matters, this power saving stuff in particular is not their forté and it may be a nonsensical combination of settings causing this issue. A big-name office prebuilt is way more likely to get this stuff right out of the box than hobbyist / enthusiast level hardware.

[@tatt2jon]

Love the fix or flop series I troubleshoot along with you to see who finds the issue first, lol

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Good idea !!! About that AIO - maybe,a good idea for a video would be about repairing it ???

[@Rturroo]

I have the exact same AIO (different ibuypower prebuilt), and the same exact problem in this video. I had my PC for 3 years. I was getting temperatures of ~90-100c when idling. I first repasted/remounted but the issue did not go away.. the fluid felt like it was moving which was confusion since it was not a evident the pump was dead. what help diagnose was checking the inlet and outlet tubes from the CPU mount with a infrared thermometer. The temp at the inlet and outlet was the same, showing there was no temperature difference between the entering and exit fluid (no heat transfer). My concern now is, when I purchased my new AIO there is no date of manufacture nor any shelf life, so technically if you buy something new off the shelf we do not know how long it has been in stock, impacting the timing from when this issue arises with your PC.

[@Conway044]

I had the exact same thing happen with the same AIO [ 120mm RBG Ibuypower] last week. Less than a year old (11 months), completely clogged, I didn't notice the color of the fluid.

[@Christar13]

I have the same setup with the same ibuypower liquid cooler. I just recently having that grinding sound and my CPU is at 80°-85° idle. I am planning on upgrading to MSI MagCoreLiquid 240R. Glad I ran into this video. Thank you. Liked! & Subcribed.

[@Qalibrated]

I have a Kraken M22 (pump in rad aswell) and a similar problem. It makes a horrible sound too, no matter the way it's mounted and temps on a R5 2600 @ stock was around 65c in BIOS. I might still have enough warranty left to try getting it replaced, maybe even refunded, but i consider taking it apart too, just to see if i can fix it myself. I "bought" (traded) it for some leftover fans and a Hyper 212 RGB, so i don't really need it, as i already have a Dark Rock Slim, an Arctic Freezer 34 DUO and a couple AIO's lying around, so might aswell use it for a learning experience i guess.

[@jeffwalker7185]

Did you find out what was causing the clicking sound? Another great video by the way.

[@borlach_]

Loving the content Mr Salazar. Kinda wishing I lived in Florida and not Ireland so I could break one of my PCs on purpose just to meet you and shake your hand. Keep it up.

[@Mayden_America]

My step daughter's MSI CoreLiquid is having the same issues. We're swapping to an air cooler tomorrow. If you want it I'd be fine with sending it your way.