Greyhound - First U-Boat Kill

Greyhound 2020
U.S. Navy Cmdr. Ernest Krause is assigned to lead an Allied convoy across the Atlantic during World War II. His convoy, however, is pursued by German U-boats. Although this is Krause's first wartime mission, he finds himself embroiled in what would come to be known as the longest, largest and most complex naval battle in history: The Battle of the Atlantic.
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[@cwsenpai52]

tom was a busy guy in ww2 leading ships, and storming normandy. Badass.

[@smigoltime]

and later rescuing soldiers in Vietnam. What a hero.

[@gunnar6674]

@@smigoltime He also committed war crimes for the French army, though.

[@smigoltime]

@@gunnar6674 he redeemed himself tho and helped drive russians out of afghanistan later

[@thatcornishcockney]

Until he got stranded on a deserted island lol

[@CFMLEAP]

@@thatcornishcockney but don’t forget he also served as a astronaut on Apollo 13 for a while.

[@MASmeinezeit]

The fact he doesnt rejoice makes it so human. He knows what that means to the men they just hit.

[@robertarisz8464]

But he would also have known what it would have meant to the convoy if he had not sunk the sub.

[@MASmeinezeit]

@@robertarisz8464 True. War is never a good thing.

[@sevroaubarca5209]

@@MASmeinezeit Wow such a fresh take

[@PBMS123]

@@robertarisz8464 Oh he knew that, he just knows that hes killed everyone in the uboat

[@jcarry5214]

I was talking to a Navy vet who was in the pacific once in a cigar store. They got an early good hit on a much larger japanese vessel and it went down fast. I can't remember the name of his boat even though it was a well-known name, or the details of the sinking and whether or not it was an explosion but there were essentially no survivors. Anyway, he said some major brass was aboard and while everyone was just registering what had happened he got on the horn before anyone could react. Basically said "we just killed a thousand people in cold blood and if I hear a single cheer I will make you regret it forever. We did our job but don't you dare be happy about it." Then the ol boy, he was tipsy because the cigar store was next to the chinese bar, started crying a little and saluted the captain or admiral and muttering about all those dead japanese kids. Like he hadn't been a child himself.

[@chaseorosco9017]

What I love about this scene is it’s shot entirely from the destroyer crew’s perspective. You never see the u boat. It gives you some sense of what it was like for these guys hunting submarines.

[@rocketassistedgoat1079]

Yeah, and how no-one's celebrating even though they can all see the massive oil slick. Because they know, an entire crew-everyone on board: died a horrific death. Explosion, fire, instant decompression, being crushed or being drowned-and all very possibly on the same submarine. Those were the possibilities for the crew.

[@andrewyellstrom2585]

@@rocketassistedgoat1079 They celebrate just not at first because they’re waiting for confirmation of the kill.

[@rocketassistedgoat1079]

@@andrewyellstrom2585 Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're also not sociopaths. Trump supporter perchance? Sure you are...

[@winrawrisyou]

@@rocketassistedgoat1079 Looks like you lost your brain. They literally celebrate at the end of the video.

[@rocketassistedgoat1079]

@@winrawrisyou You're not very observant. For a while, they don't celebrate. AND that's the most striking thing about it. Man, I can tell so much about you already, your personality type for example. Very much iNtuition-inferior. You only notice the obvious things. This lack of observational intelligence (just lack of intelligence in general), also makes me suspect you're a follower of the compulsively lying orange sheep-whisperer.

[@andrewgeissler8887]

You can tell he really felt for the men on the sub he just killed. Anyone onboard a surface ship that was sunk had a chance at surviving, but submerged U-Boats crews had zero chance once they were hit.

[@Cailus3542]

Statistically, service aboard a U-boat was one of the most dangerous jobs in WW2. Allied aircraft and escorts massacred them, especially later in the war. It took a very brave man to step onto any submarine during the world wars, but especially a U-boat.

[@hyfy-tr2jy]

@@Cailus3542 What do you mean when you say "especially a U-Boat"? Are you meaning a German Submarine? U-Boat is just an abbreviation for Unterseeboot, the German word for Submarine.

[@longshucksgaming]

@@hyfy-tr2jy yes he means specifically german submarines. take the near certain death of getting hit while submerged that comes with any sub, and then couple that with the fact that later in the war uboats' enigma machines had their codes broken and so were basically broadcasting their location to the allies and you realize you would have only a slightly higher chance of death putting a 44 to your head and squeezing the trigger than serving on a german sub.

[@robertc7232]

Germany lost over 800 U-boats during the war. The British developed sonar technology that was well ahead of its time which the Americans mass produced and once every ship and plane had that technology on board the U-boats started getting decimated.

[@Hiddenronin]

@@hyfy-tr2jy Not quite the same. A Submarine will stay submerged and only surface when it needs to recharge it's batteries. A U-Boat, or Unterseeboot as you correctly pointed out, is just that; it sails on the surface when not preparing to engage the enemy.

[@ObzTicle]

I love how they make him have the look that they've basically killed an entire crew of men that'll now be drowning

[@hypersp3ce596]

that's war for you

[@olskool339]

Better he, than we

[@oceanic8424]

[04/01/22] Far more likely that the U-Boat crew would be crushed by the water pressure at depth, even if they could hold their breaths for a few minutes.

[@drahunter213]

In war everyone is a murderer… That’s what war is lol…

[@Michael-cf9cj]

@@drahunter213 It's not murder. It's war. And as quickly as those depth charges went off (the destroyer was barely past them) it was plenty shallow enough to survive the water pressure. Those submariners either died from the explosion ripping the submarine apart or they drown. I do like what ObzTickle pointed out, that the captain doesn't show the joy of the crew when he realizes they just killed a few dozen men.

[@maitama5362]

2:17 The sonar operator somewhat heard multiple voices in the sonar, hearing faint creaking and drowning sub crews.

[@firingallcylinders2949]

It probably was a sigh of relief but a weird feeling knowing you just gave about 50 men a horrible death.

[@jamalwilburn228]

Well they were about to give a few hundred just as bad by blowing them up and drowning them as well including further deaths to those who needed those supplies.

[@ered203]

My grandfather was a Navy dive bomber in both the European and Pacific theaters. I asked him a similar question once. His actual, honest to God response..."Fuck the Ratzi bastards!"

[@worldofdoom995]

its that or your own ass and 50 men who's lives you are responsible for. not to mention the rest of the US Navy they can attack if they escape.

[@firingallcylinders2949]

@@worldofdoom995 I'm aware of the stakes, it doesn't change the fact of what happened.

[@herbivorethecarnivore8447]

@@jamalwilburn228 The circumstances don't change the fact that it's a horrible way to die.

[@waldopepper4069]

a great scene. hanks as commander understands three things at that last moment. one, that they destroyed the enemy as they are supposed to and thus have accomplished the objective, two, the human reaction that those are like his crew and were just young men forced into service, and have just suffered a terrible death, and three, that he had to then walk back into the bridge and give his men the boost they needed by saying "we got em". and his crew all rejoice, as one would expect. this is a scene that perfectly captures the multiple layers and human indignity of war.

[@theofarmmanager267]

Surely one of the most brutal parts of warfare - ship and submarines. You know that, if your ship or sub is fatally wounded, death is very probable.

[@theofarmmanager267]

@Yuri Setsuna thanks for that. I hadn’t realised how badly damaged ships could be and still lost. In fairness to me, I did say “fatally” by which I meant beyond repair - possibly relates more to subs than surface ships however. I was thinking that they can’t be many more worst deaths than locked into a sub or a ships compartment knowing that you cannot escape; or perhaps bobbing around in the Pacific watching one of your mates being eaten by sharks.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

@@theofarmmanager267 the local merchant seamen who survived a sinking and being rescued ,were given a couple of weeks survivor leave and quickly reassigned another ship for either America ,Canada or Murmansk..best wishes from Merseyside..

[@theofarmmanager267]

@@eamonnclabby7067 by todays standards that doesn’t seem a lot but, I suppose, downed airmen wouldn’t be given anything different

[@KBKriechbaum]

@Yuri Setsuna A torpedo hit is pretty much the end for the ships involved in a cat and mouse between submarines and destroyers. Bigger ships, maybe. A destroyer will not survive a hit by a torpedo. Most merchants of the time would go down in a matter of minutes. Also, once crippled by a torpedo, the next one will make short work of the matter. I would say the statement of Theo FarmManager still stands. Also, you will find it very hard to repair a 1m wide hole in your hull below waterline.

[@riproar11]

@Theo Death is very probable in warfare...and don't call us "Shirley".

[@douglassauvageau7262]

Tom Hanks made a dramatic transition from post-pubescent comedian to dramatic portrayals of the best stories from the 'Greatest Generation'. Much respect.

[@douglassauvageau7262]

A bio-pic of Robert McNamara should be considered. The Best and the Brightest.

[@coolasice2187]

Do you remember bosom buddies?

[@samsignorelli]

@@coolasice2187 Yeah....and if you'd told me back then a guy who's first real national exposure was in drag in a sitcom wold be a 2-time Oscar winner and list everything else he's done, I'd ask you to pass over whatever drugs you were on. Dude has had an amazing career.

[@Philip-hv2kc]

There's been a number of actors who got typecast and weren't happy about it . July Andrews and the George character in Seinfeld. .....Owen Wilson is typecast but he's cool about it , John Wayne didn't mind his typecast..

[@samsignorelli]

@@Philip-hv2kc Kinda depends on your end goals....if you WANT to be a leading man A-lister, you don't want to be typecast. If you just want to keep working....different story.

[@archangelcharlie]

It depicted a fair kill, but you can’t help but feel for the young men on that sub. Not a pleasant way to go.

[@softdrink-0]

The lucky ones die instantly, the unlucky ones burn to death or drown.

[@DeltaAssaultGaming]

Nazis deserved it

[@georgemudayingo1944]

@@DeltaAssaultGaming Not all Germans were Nazis.

[@ImperialKnight770]

even worse if they miraculously survived. They'd freeze to death in the water or be shark chow

[@yunghitnit666]

@@georgemudayingo1944 I think he means the Germans who were Nazis we know not all Germans were nazis or I hope everyone knows that

[@anglo4906]

One of my favourite war films to come out in the last 10 years. Glad you've added some scenes from it, looking forward to more :D

[@Julian_Bolt]

Greyhound was great

[@demitrilinon8681]

How do you watch it? Do you have to subscribe to Hulu or something?

[@anglo4906]

Demitrilinon watchseries never lets me down. Though I’m sure there’s plenty of alternatives, providing you don’t mind the drop in quality from subscription services

[@demitrilinon8681]

@@anglo4906 Thank you!

[@Surfer041]

Tom Hanks is in the film=it will kick ass.

[@misterkunnyfunt]

My great grandfather served with distinction on a US Destroyer during WWll. he used to tell me stories about it all the time. how tense it would be in the ship when hunting for submarines. the spike of fear when the cry of "torpedoes" was heard. and how Tom Hanks was the best Captain he ever served under. man never wavered once.

[@weeksweeks9552]

Was your great grandfather in the same company as Private ryan ? Great soldier

[@kevg3320]

@@weeksweeks9552 No, but he did fly in the same Apollo spacecraft! Superb Astronaut.

[@mbrew3244]

Heckuva roommate too and looked pretty good in heels....

[@RomanBeloHorizonte]

You almost got me

[@carlg788]

The sonar operators could also hear the uboats imploding on their hydrophones when they sank

[@chucknorris6640]

I remember reading the stroke of a broths hydrophone operator hearing the dying screams of a U-Boat crew, a horrible and traumatic experience

[@oliverhughes610]

@@chucknorris6640 that seems... improbable. Where did you read that?

[@carlomagno7092]

@@oliverhughes610 No you can indeed hear the intercom of a ship or sub with the sonar, i think you can hear very very loud screams too.

[@oliverhughes610]

@@carlomagno7092 where did you read that?

[@mistertagnan]

@@oliverhughes610google it my guy, there are quite a few accounts from submariners and destroyer crews hearing the dying sounds of their victims

[@Ro6entX]

I’ve read few books that covered few sub killer encounters with submarines during WW2, how crews often would celebrate at first but the realization of the human element that is dying under the water kicks in. In fact one captain, which unfortunately I don’t remember the name, did not allow his crew to celebrate at all, not openly anyway.

[@dantreadwell7421]

Willing to bet once the crew figured out why, not many of them wanted to. . .

[@georgeelfi4972]

after watching Das Boot...this moment of destroying submarine feels....terrifying

[@MisterUnknownSmith]

My thought

[@2snowgirl520]

Me too. 😔

[@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm]

What was interesting about WW2 was it was fought in so many different ways. You could be in the mountains, Sea, Sky and land. All very dangerous.

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

Deserts.

[@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm]

@Earthneedsado-over177 yep. Scale of destruction was insane. Africa wars are a forgotten but crucial part of WW2

[@TrizzlyYT]

2:18 if you listen closely, you could hear the sinking u-boat. Terrifying.

[@Moonshade24]

The way this movie treats the emotion of the sinking U-boat is very real first and foremost, then that ambiguity is swept away very quickly later on by the threats and taunting of the wolfpack leader .

[@BaldyFade]

I found the whole taunting thing incredibly corny. It was so unrealistic, and took away from the historical accuracy of the movie.

[@attackmaster519]

@@BaldyFade It's Hollywood. So anything with WW2 has to paint the Germans as 10 / 10 on the evil scale. But you're right, it would have been far better to have kept the U-boats silent throughout the film. Not only does it does paint a more realistic picture, but it paints a more terrifying enemy as there is nothing scarier than a silent predator hunting you.

[@zhicaofang2354]

This is probably the best naval movie in the past decade and the decade to come. Shame that because of the pandemic it never had a decent launch on the big screen, because the movie is MADE to be enjoyed on a big screen: the tension, the acting, the details of ASW warfare, and especially the interwoven beeping sound of sonar and communication of orders, as well as the creepy scores when the U-boats emerged etc. I only wish the production company could make a deal with some cinemas to have this movie go on the big screen even just for a short while.

[@Angel.Diez.Ovelar]

CGI Movie so.....

[@jrhamilton4448]

It would be amazing to see on an IMAX screen wouldn't it?

[@connorbranscombe6819]

@@Angel.Diez.Ovelar Lmao damn they’re are still kids who complain about CGI? You realize no one has function Type VIIs anymore to go sink some convoys right?

[@Nerezza1]

It's probably one of the worst ever made. If you think subs operated this way and they were hunted this way, or that protecting convoys was like this, well, you should try picking up a history book.

[@patrickrhea6348]

@@Nerezza1 You should make a video about it then.

[@darkjester53]

The one thing I didn't like about this movie was the braggart evilness of the German commander. It's such a Hollywood movie thing to do. Always make the villain extra villain and disliked, could have just kept it at just commanders doing what they're asked for because they believe it's in the interests of their nation and people.

[@jamalwilburn228]

Yeah German military were bad guy, but making them more "human" shows how regular people could become just like them. If any of us were born into their situation, we would likley become like them as well. If they were born into ours, they would likley be like us

[@trent617tw]

And dont forget that the Kreigsmarine had an unfavorable view of the Nazi Party. In fact, if I am not mistaken one had to renounce their Nazi Party membership if he wanted to join the German Navy. They fought for Germany, albeit a Nazi-led Germany.

[@robf1801]

Yep took me right out of the movie (that and the U-Boat taking on two Destroyers point blank on the surface and holding its own) - dumb hollywood shit.

[@BigMek456]

@@jamalwilburn228 The bad guy is the one youre fighting against. There are no good and evil sides in a war

[@fuckman297]

@@diegomoreno7760 are you talking about merchant vessels?

[@codyking4848]

I like that Krause doesn't celebrate. He knows what an awful, gritty thing this is. Seeing someone's son drifting lifelessly on the waves, it just drives home what a nasty piece of work this is, but it must be done. Underrated movie.

[@alphaares6027]

This has to be another world war II best movie ever made where Tom Hanks is in it. Sad to see this never made it to the cinemas.

[@mugsnvicki]

Watched it at the cinema in Canada.

[@JandH2017]

Can't get on google play, know where we get it from?

[@obi1324]

@@JandH2017 apple tv

[@benadam7753]

LOL!

[@TXnine7nine]

It came out when cinemas most places were shut down due to the pandemic. Sure they could have waited a few years to show it but they chose a digital release through Apple TV.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

Thank you for sharing this with us all, this film has a deep resonance with us here on Merseyside....there is a statue of Johnny Walker the legendary U boat hunter, and also a monument to the Royal Canadian navy on Liverpool Pier head ,across the mersey here in Birkhenhead ,there is a partially restored U boat...best wishes from the wirral...E

[@Wessex90]

I live in the Wirral and love visiting the Western Approaches museum in Liverpool. U-Boat Story is pretty cool too 👍

[@geraldwatts5492]

Long but surprisingly interesting excerpt from Wiki: "The high explosive in a depth charge undergoes a rapid chemical reaction at an approximate rate of 8,000 m/s (26,000 ft/s). The gaseous products of that reaction momentarily occupy the volume previously occupied by the solid explosive, but at very high pressure. This pressure is the source of the damage and is proportional to the explosive density and the square of the detonation velocity. A depth charge gas bubble expands to equalize with the pressure of the surrounding water.[22] This gas expansion propagates a shock wave. The density difference of the expanding gas bubble from the surrounding water causes the bubble to rise toward the surface. Unless the explosion is shallow enough to vent the gas bubble to the atmosphere during its initial expansion, the momentum of water moving away from the gas bubble will create a gaseous void of lower pressure than the surrounding water. Surrounding water pressure then collapses the gas bubble with inward momentum causing excess pressure within the gas bubble. Re-expansion of the gas bubble then propagates another potentially damaging shock wave. Cyclical expansion and contraction can continue for several seconds until the gas bubble vents to the atmosphere.[22] Consequently, explosions where the depth charge is detonated at a shallow depth and the gas bubble vents into the atmosphere very soon after the detonation are quite ineffective, even though they are more dramatic and therefore preferred in movies. A sign of an effective detonation depth is that the surface just slightly rises and only after a while vents into a water burst." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_charge#Delivery_mechanisms

[@TheSerec]

I really enjoyed the movie, but the parts where the U-boat commander contacts the destroyer to taunt them was just so cringe. I really think the movie would have been better if the U-boats had stayed silent. An invisible enemy like in real life.

[@MrDwarfpitcher]

Yeah and if you show them, at least make them believable. You have proper movies like "Das Boot" where you get an experienced but unshaven crew. When all they have is sound. Where is the enemy? You hear them, they are probably there. Is it withing "depth charge" firing range? Maybe The Captain gives his commands in a calm tone, but his face is anxious. We may be in danger. Splashes, the listener says. Depth charges perhaps? Sure what else could it be? How close? You dare not ask. You feel the metal tremble, that a blast and it was close, much to close. If another gets closer, then that will be it... But nah Lets have stereotypical baddies that give a middle finger when they are about to die...

[@insideoutsideupsidedown2218]

Never happened in the real world.

[@TheKsalad]

You just know some idiot executive forced them to add that garbage scene into the movie, probably to appease Chinese audiences who need everything spoonfed to them and to be as campy as possible

[@BaldyFade]

I completely agree. Took away all realism that this movie had worked towards.

[@vk2ig]

​@@TheKsaladChinese audiences? This movie was made for American audiences.

[@bake4795]

He then transferred to the army and died in normandy

[@lemmdus2119]

My father served in the North Atlantic in the 50’s on a destroyer. They would practice for intercepting Soviet subs. He GC we’re the depth charge launcher.

[@mediumdoubledouble9012]

The calmness of the sea hiding the horrors of man. Almost poetic.

[@rogerodle8750]

You and I have different understandings of what constitutes a calm sea.

[@novemberalpha6023]

Exactly what was said by the great sanskrit poet Kalidas, "One can't imagine the existence of the dangerous animals lurking at the bottom of the lake, by simply observing the calm surface of it".

[@dkkruse]

My dad was a tin-can sailor on a Fletcher class destroyer. He said they did a fantastic job of making this real.

[@900stx7]

Most of the bridge scenes were filmed on the USS KIDD, a Fletcher class destroyer docked in Baton Rouge LA.

[@mr.m1garand254]

Yes please more of this movie!

[@bikiniluvnguy1]

this is so intense. i cant begin to imagine the stress they faced for the several years the war lasted.

[@whatever305j]

this film is wonderful Thank you to the USS KIDD and the veterans who served on her

[@changjuiyang5466]

I was a sonar sergeant on the Improved Allen M.Summer Class Destroyer. Hunting submarines was not easy as movies. Early sonar had poor accuracy and malfunctions. Aircraft to hunt submarines is the most efficient, But the description of the combat room in the movie is very realistic

[@Skaitania]

Watching this movie together with Das Boot gives you the full picture. I am glad we have both perspectives now, showing the gritty thruth. I love both of them.

[@1theredrooster]

The Crew cheering for a kill, while the Capt. is devastated at the kill. The understanding of sending ~50 men to their graves in a horrifying manner shows.

[@rekunta]

I really enjoy this film, as it does an excellent job of conveying the coordination and cooperation of a bunch of individuals to one man’s direction to bring a tremendous behemoth of warfare to bear in a singular goal. War is a horrific thing in the broader, but how its objectives are achieved always fascinates and impresses me. Even though those men were fighting for an abhorrent cause and ideology, those U-boat sailors were only doing their duty. Not a pleasant way to pass on. Wish I could’ve seen this on the big screen.

[@Nerezza1]

Nah, apart from this scene the movie is a complete waste of time. It's unrealistic and once again portrays the narrative that the British didn't know how wage war or fight. In this case it's pretending that the USN were better at hunting subs and protecting convoys than the RN.

[@rohanthandi4903]

@@Nerezza1 the RN couldnt protect shit until late 1943

[@JerBuster77]

For his next movie, I think Tom Hanks should be a captain of a ship that gets stuck in the Suez Canal. 😀

[@rizkiruri7092]

there is story about man who sign contract to guard ship that being held in egypt port. its already 8 year and there is no sign about his company taking back their ship. and he cannot go home

[@druegnor]

@@rizkiruri7092 so basically like Castaway and Terminal but this time its Container?

[@jamessweet5341]

He'd have a lock on that part.

[@vk2ig]

​@@druegnorAnd he would be the only person onboard. The only company would be an inanimate character called Wont-soff who gets lost overboard just before the end. Oh, and of course upon arriving home he would discover that his girl married his dentist ...

[@s-man5647]

oh wow, I'm gonna have to watch this. I find how they did the bridge comms compelling. A lot messier than what we're used to from old movies.

[@enlightened_gk6602]

I think "Das Boot" gives you every reason to understand why not to cheer

[@nemosis9449]

My dad was RN and spent the first two years of the war on convoys between the UK and Halifax and loathed the u boats but at the end he felt sorry for them.

[@TheFlutecart]

This is one heck of a movie. Never minded sitting through it again with a friend.

[@jamiemcmillan9716]

Perfect reaction from Tom, but my father described what really lived with him for decades afterwards: the screams and shouts of U-boat sailors that survived the initial explosion. Possibly the delay in sighting meant that this one was too deep for any to survive to the surface. Of course no survivors could be picked up as the destroyer had to stay with the convoy, so they were left to die.

[@iatsd]

Not quite. The US Navy ordered - against the laws of war and as a direct war crime - unrestricted sub warfare 2 days after it entered the war. They were under orders not to recover crews unless there was the possibility of intelligence. The Allies did, of course, try to prosecute various German officers post-war for issuing or following the exact same orders. Donitz is the most well known trial. But those prosecutions all failed when the defense brought to court the fact that the US had conducted the EXACT same war crimes they were now trying to prosecute the Germans for.

[@TheCanadian888]

I would imagine the reason for not taking prisoners is that it would imply you to stop your boat and make it an easy target for an other uboat. I’m pretty sure anyone would feel very unsafe to be stationary in the middle of the ocean while there’s uboat all around and you just destroyed one

[@TheCanadian888]

Adding to that, having prisoners on board makes it risky as they can tap and make noise while you are trying to be silent on sonar and then compromise an entire war ship.

[@iatsd]

@@TheCanadian888 Yeah, just ignore international law because you *feel* unsafe. No Biggie. War crimes aren't anything to be concerned about, are they?

[@TheCanadian888]

@@iatsd its not about feeling unsafe lol. Its about risking an entire ship and hundreds of lives. If you put this into army perspective, should you run into a no man’s land to save injured enemy soldiers ? For the Air Force, should you land your plane in enemy territory to help an enemy pilot stuck in his cockpit ? Uboat were devastating in ww2. I would understand a captain that doesn’t want to stop his ship. Take the grid, send it to Red Cross and hope for the best. It was a war not a charity event.

[@MarcosSoni]

From Captain Miller to Commander Krause...Tom Hanks plays the steady roles of leadership on land and on sea.

[@TXnine7nine]

Such an underrated movie. The way they only let you hear the voices from the other ships and didn’t show them was great. I know it helps reduce film costs but it worked out great either way.

[@xxnightdriverxx9576]

I just wished they had set the movie in 1944 instead of 42. Doesnt really make any difference to the story, except being more accurate. The USN wasnt that much involved with convoy escort in the Atlantic in the first years, and they had basically no experience. They actually rejected advice and tactics from the British at the beginning, and payed a horrible price for it, both in cargo ships lost and in unsuccessful attacks on Uboats. Also there is absolutely no fucking way they would send a Fletcher class to the atlantic for convoy escort in 1942, especially not one armed with 40mm Bofors (that weapon only entered mass production in late 1942). They desperatly needed every single modern destroyer for the fight against Japan in the pacific, so why would they send their most modern ones to do the jobs older ones could do just as well? I know I know, thats very strict critism here. Overall it was a very good movie, but again it was a "US comes and saves the day and the other allies do basically nothing" type of movie, and I am getting annoyed by that, especially when its not accurate (the atlantic and convoy escort was mostly done by the british and canadian navies. They are present in the movie and are referenced, I think they also kill one sub off screen, but its still not enough.

[@vk2ig]

​@@xxnightdriverxx9576You wouldn't have liked _U-571_ then.

[@thatonerandominternetdingu736]

My favorite part of this is how quiet it all is. Up until the moment he gets the warning it's just them relaying sonar messages and it's so realistic

[@professoraxo1033]

This was such a great movie

[@jamezz41]

Loved it. Apart from the bits with Elizabeth Shue, she's great, but it felt so forced; like we needed a reason for the captain to want to live, like basic human insticnt isn't a reason enough. To highten the poin of it being a last minute studio decision is that when Tom Hanks has a flashback in the middle of the film, his only memory of her is the scene when they meet at a coffee shop... AND It's the only scene in the film of them together. Hilarious

[@TakumiFujiwara80]

It's a pity that only few can understand what's happening.... it's a technical movie for a niche of spectator imho.

[@Michael-vs3ot]

Studying Uboats and the life of uboat crews aboard them this scene is extremely sad. Wouldn't be any less sad if the Uboat killed hundreds of people aboard a ship but no one on any ship ever had to live the hellish existence the U-boat crews did. I have to say though, this scene depicts so beautifully the fear that Uboats instilled in the allies. What a scary battle to fight. If you enjoyed this movie watch the Directors cut or the uncut version of Das Boot. A movie from the perspective of the Uboats when the war had turned against them and the happy times were in the past.

[@jopo6876]

Never even heard of this film - looking forward to watching it!

[@twiggshomestead6497]

Jesus, he wears the weight of that kill. The pause, the zoom on the oil in the ocean, the silence after he knows but the crew does not. Its heavy and he knows the truth that lies under the ocean. War is hell, even in a cold wet environment.

[@memoriesofdaysgoneby2348]

Excellent cinematography. The oil slick looked like a giant blood stain on the angry ocean.

[@olskool339]

Dad survived the sinking of the USS Spence DD512 during Typhoon Cobra in December 1944. Two other Destroyers and 790 men were lost also...

[@JustJohn505]

Been playing silent hunter 3 lately so when I watched the movie it had me on the edge if my seat

[@Switcharoo12]

Loved that game, wish I still had it. 👍

[@Matterian]

Such a great great movie. I can watch this over and over again.

[@raymondyee2008]

Ah yeah been wanting to see this.

[@macccu]

well well look at him, he's the captain now

[@brentrogers-se8kx]

I really enjoyed working on this as "core" background. Great experience. The biggest star was the Uss kidd.

[@Youre_Right]

This was a really good movie. There haven’t been a lot of great naval WWII movies. I can see it being a hard sell to a studio. The cost to produce and what not.

[@graemebeck4610]

British lost so many ships and men to the U Boats. Wasn’t for years that the battle of the Atlantic changed. Britain breaking the enigma code was massive

[@danwallach8826]

The Battle of the Atlantic spanned the entire war.

[@331SVTCobra]

A low budget British film made in the 1950s: The Cruel Sea. You can feel the cold with that movie.

[@boddenkieker1061]

That's a very good movie. It shows the reality.

[@MG-bs5mr]

Great film, great book.

[@Zonker66]

Wish you'd have included his next lines... he mourned for the death of his enemies and that said a lot about his character.

[@drg8687]

A destroyer that close? That's like a lion playing with a mouse.

[@bobdadnaila7708]

I wonder at the duality of emotions that must course through such a man, at such a moment.... A destroyer captain, seeing the flotsam and oilslick signature of a submarine stricken by his own command, and that being his first kill... To simultaneously realize that you can and did do your job as a captain, and that you just sent an entire submarine and it's crew of young men to the bottom of the Atlantic...🥺

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

When I was young I knew a man who served on HMS Rodney and was present at the sinking of the Bismarck. He told me there was no cheering when it sank, just relief that it wasn't going to shoot back at them any more, and sadness that they'd just killed a lot of young men like themselves.

[@biccey6585]

But also saved their own ship of young crewmen too it is wat it is 😞

[@Ruukasu-7]

Underrated movie

[@obombomattatetrahondamog1461]

Fun fact, Ernest king, commander of the american navy in the pacific theatre, ignored British advice on convey tactics for an entire year, purely out of personal predudice towards them. This led to thousands of easily avoidable american deaths.

[@NorthForkFisherman]

And Operation Paukenschlag was the result of that. BDU exploited that very effectively for a time.

[@RasikRajguru]

I love these movies. Tom Hanks a great actor in any movie. More longer scenes please.

[@billygraham5971]

Brilliant Movie !

[@whirledpeas3477]

It's not brilliant. Unless I say it is..........Okay It's brilliant

[@nigden1]

It was the British who escorted Atlantic convoys in the most numbers during the war, the Americans operated between 1941-1943 on the southern Atlantic.

[@Sp-zj5hw]

One thing naval movies can not yet pass to the audience is the rough sea situation. In this video, the waves must be 2.5-3m, a heavy burden for the crew and the ship.

[@kcbm225]

The fact we never see the sub and the human reaction to the kill makes this movie unique damn

[@Nativusdes]

This movie was phenomenal

[@howardcarney1502]

Fun fact: Many times German u boats would load oil and cloth items in the tubes then fire, to give the illusion that they where sunk and to slip away.

[@adamclark9004]

No they wouldn't they would never waste oil like that

[@howardcarney1502]

@@adamclark9004 yes they did.. it happened more than once. The first known example would be SM-UC-44.. I don't know why I'm here arguing with someone on KZbin.

[@mikebrown1926]

@@adamclark9004 Yes, they certainly did release oil and flotsam for just that reason. Using a few gallons of oil to make the enemy think you have been sunk is a small price.

[@stevek8829]

@@adamclark9004 you argue a point when you're clueless? What's the matter you? 👀

[@rikk319]

@@mikebrown1926 True--though the size of the slick in the film showed it was a mortal wound to the sub.

[@gabrielalex100]

Yo, this video is just 1 hr old and i never been in this channel, that's rare

[@warmtummyrubs7864]

It's a great channel. He has so many videos and would always comment back even when it was smaller. Chill dude(s).

[@zareh805]

Tom Hanks seems as if he’s grieving as he’s processing the confirmed kill.

[@perplexical]

The amount of stress in this scene is unbearable, really goes to show what hunting u-boats was like

[@raven4k998]

we got him

[@fredlandry6170]

Imagine dying in the icy depths like that.

[@renzocj99]

I imagine it must be a quick death. While the submarine descends, different areas still maintain air, when the water enters with an incredible pressure, it compresses the existing air in milliseconds, this air heats up to the point of burning anything. So it is likely that you will be burned to death, then crushed by the enormous pressure of the water and finally drowned.

[@bwer123gt]

Can't decide what's worse Crushed by depth like submariners or freeze to death like poor merchantmen of the convoys that sunk.

[@Michael-cf9cj]

@@bwer123gt Freeze to death is almost certainly worse. It's relatively quick; you'll be dead in minutes, but that kind of cold hurts like hell. If you're crushed by water pressure, that's pretty fast.

[@longshucksgaming]

@@Michael-cf9cj water pressure kills you before you know what hit you

[@ancientheart2532]

DD's : Saviors' of the fleet. My Dad served with distinction aboard the good ship Douglas H. Fox, DD 779, Sumner class. Two time sailor across the Equator. We are NAVY!!!

[@JesterDre]

war movies with Tom Hanks as a main actor never been failed

[@JesterDre]

@@markdavis7397 or perhaps grandpa gepetto, that'l do

[@mirsh2541]

Interestingly, the name of Tom Hanks' character in this movie implies German heritage. According to a quick internet search there actually was a real Ernest Krause, who was born in Lübeck, Germany, but ended up living in New York, joining the US Navy and later on earning a Medal of Honor, albeit in 1898, much earlier than WW2.

[@lancelittleton9802]

Many Germans, like many Europeans, immigrated here turn of the century (Ellis Island)

[@texaswunderkind]

More than seven million German immigrants had come to the U.S. before 1910. A full 10% of the population. It stands to reason that by 1940 there were quite a few Americans with some German ancestry.

[@dantreadwell7421]

​@Texas Wunderkind you look into it, up here in Minnesota or Wisconsin it's more like half or more. Especially then.

[@davidkaminski615]

Admiral Nimitz's family is one of those German immigrant stories.

[@dantreadwell7421]

Kinda surprised no one has looked at the Supreme Commander Allied Forces at the time and his INCREDIBLY German (Germanic, at least) last name? Eisenhower. It was a job title, an iron hewer.

[@nettraveller81]

2:15 what the hell? a crewman from Death Star?

[@jacobchang7955]

Modified helmets for soldiers needing to wear headsets.

[@HollywoodMarine0351]

@@jacobchang7955 *sailors

[@RogueAOV]

I was getting a Dark Helmet vibe.

[@kenzomopera5416]

@@jacobchang7955 cool, whats the model of the helmet called?

[@jacobchang7955]

@@kenzomopera5416 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Navy_Mk_II_talker_helmet The MkII Tanker helmet, issued to members of the USN who’s duties involved headsets and therefore the standard M1 helmet wouldn’t work.

[@LotsOfRobotsINC]

I love this movie, all action.

[@xam.gmz1811]

VERY NICE

[@HaroldtheNihongoStudent]

Need more WW2 Sea combat movies.

[@pkx_phant0m456]

Bismarck + Eugen vs Hood + Prince of whales would make for an amazing movie.

[@MG-bs5mr]

There's an old film based on that ​@@pkx_phant0m456

[@MG-bs5mr]

It's old school but "The Cruel Sea" is a favourite of mine.

[@rollingrockink1]

Jimmy Doogan never coached again, he joined the navy in command of this ship, made it to England, and then landed on Omaha Beach... *There's no crying in baseball*

[@reubensandwich9249]

And then was left wounded and crying all day for help in Haguenau, France.

[@castelodeossos3947]

Must be the best such film I've seen because absolutely no nonsense. None of the usual idiotic subplots that contribute nothing of substance. The focus is almost only on the commander and is as concentrated as he is. Just as the commander is never left off the hook so is the viewer.

[@barbarossa1234]

What a tremendous film.

[@CuttySobz]

Such an unfathomably horrific death to those brave sailors of the U boat. The Captain seems to know this well.

[@thevillaaston7811]

Britain did most of the U-boat sinkings.

[@xxnightdriverxx9576]

yeah exactly that. Always annoys me whenever Holleywood does the "and the US swooped in and saved the day and did everything" trope even when its not accurate. ANd the US Navy actively rejected british advice and tactics after their entry into the war, which cost them badly. Thad had changed by late 1942, but the USN still was not exactly expierienced in sinking Uboats compared to the British and Canadian Navies. Also a Fletcher class has absolutely no buisness being in the atlantic on convoy escort in 1942, the US Navy needed every Destroyer they could get their hands on in the Pacific in the fight against Japan. If they had made the movie play in 1944 it would have made much more sense, and story wise it would have fit just as well

[@ButtersTheGreat1]

@@xxnightdriverxx9576 Yes? And the US sank them too. Maybe British historians and enthusiasts of WWII can start writing their own scripts, books, movies Historically Accurate and Historical Fiction instead of constantly whining at Americans to write their history for them.

[@michaelj6392]

Awesome! How have I never heard of this movie?

[@St_Brelade]

It was exclusive to appletv I think.

[@BigMek456]

Probably because it wasnt very remarkable

[@gordonroy7860]

I had high hopes for this film. The best bit about it was the film score.

[@thegreatders344]

Why does that one guy have a spaceballs helmet?

[@JWWhiteTX]

Certain members of the crew had to have headphones on to communicate during battle stations. Those goofy looking brain buckets were designed to accommodate them, the standard helmet didn't do that very well.

[@alyssatipton5080]

Yes, we feel for those sailors aboard the U-Boat. You’d be a hard soul not to. But remember one thing: those men knew what they signed up for. They knew how things could ultimately go. Our boys had a job to do and a war to win. Above all, they were our enemy but we will remember them.

[@BigMikeMcBastard]

@@iamTatara Depends on the type but around 50, yeah.

[@dougle03]

They did not sign up, they were conscripted, the vast majority of them had no choice, just like the sailors on the destroyer... It was war time and every able body was forced into war...

[@Fatvod]

Signed up for? Ever heard of a draft bud?

[@blakedeslauriers5193]

He knew he had just damned the crew of another vessel to a horrible fate. War does not come with a guarantee

[@ryan7775]

never saw this, gunna download it now

[@24934637]

Probably totally missed the U-Boat. It was standard practice for U-Boats to release oil after a depth charging so that the ship thought that they'd got a kill even if they hadn't even got close, then the U-boat would move away under silent routine.

[@arkwill14]

But the sonar also reported "crunch of a sinking vessel" (at 2:23). That ,taken with the amount of oil and the debris mixed in, would suggest they actually did get it.

[@rogerodle8750]

Wrong. The sonar operator called out "crunching sounds". Nice try though.

[@ButtersTheGreat1]

The dead body suggests otherwise.

[@jamesdavidwyers9110]

2:09 that looks says it all. Seems like he had all these thoughts at once: *ADRENALINE* YOU F*CKERS! You tried to kill us!!! *adrenaline drops off* You shouldn't have tried to kill us... You've forced my hand... Think of their mothers...... I'm so sorry. *no. Can't think like that right now.* God have mercy on you because I can't right now. I just hope it's quick. Clear your mind! Back to the job...

[@gunargundarson1626]

its like you forgot that boat was on its way to sink medical ships.

[@jdickson1234]

Tom Hanks respecting the Navy too. Awesme guy.

[@TheRealDoctorBonkus]

Well well well, Captain Miller finally got his own boat

[@bustermcgee7403]

How U-Boats were actually destroyed: they surfaced, radioed their position to the allied code breakers, a plane was dispatched which sunk the boat.

[@robf1801]

There was plenty of immediate sinkings...

[@vk2ig]

Or the Bletchley Park codebreakers discovered the rendezvous points for the Milch Cows, and the navy and airforce went hunting them and the U-boats that were rendezvousing there.

[@Kehariukko]

First