Un-Boxing & First Impressions: Winwing F/A-18 Super Libra/Taurus HOTAS (vid 1 of 2)

[@yamouf1]

F18 Avionics tech here 9:50 right switch is the trim switch. The left switch we refer to as the Castle switch which is to designate which display (LDDI, RDDI, HUD, MPCD) you want to highlight and then use HOTAS to move the cursor on the screen to select different functions (so you dont have to physically press the buttons on the screens) Example: Lets say you want the left digital display indicator (LDDI) to display the HUD. You would press left on the castle switch then utilizing the button youre talking about at the 17:15 mark as a cursor to perform functions on the display. 17:15 That switch is essentially used as a mouse. If you highlight a display then you use that to move a cursor on the display. if the MPCD is highlighted then it can be used to slew the map around. 17:55 That is the Comm switch. Up is for transmitting on Comm 1 down is for transmitting on Comm 2 18:46 That is the switch for the speed brake

[@jg3nius135]

18:46 that is for the external lights

[@jg3nius135]

also at 17:55 that is the countermeasures hat

[@dinmorsamushimushi]

Awesome thanks. I want it as realistic as possible so the controls need to be just like the real thing. I’m sorry to say that a full-size real F/A-18 is to expensive for me. But I would love to have one of those parked in my backyard. Haha, I don’t think I could afford to fuel one F/A-18… So it is great that winning has these kind of controls. Just like the real thing.

[@bobcoughlan929]

The Warthog ‘tensioner’ you were touching is actually a programmable axis, most often used for zooming The actual tensioner for the Warthog throttle is at the front end

[@1967Cabbage]

was just about say the same

[@TallguyNL]

Know your stick 😬 or read the manual.

[@davidlund4842]

Strangely enough it was the last couple of sentences that were the most helpful to me; I'm a paraplegic and often wondered about how to get rudder and steering functionality without foot pedals, and then you said it! The center stick can be ordered with a rotating zed axis! Boom, looks like i might be able to get into this hobby after all!

[@jemimus]

It might be worth mentioning, that on many HOTAS systems, you are able to map any axis to any function. So a Virpil throttle, for instance, has several axis controls besides the throttle lever itself, and these could be mapped to in-game rudder controls too. I agree that a z-axis in the stick itself is the most intuitive. I should add, that like with the Winwing, there is software out there, like Joystick gremlin, that is able to map buttons to 'virtual' axis, which can then be mapped in-game.

[@davidlund4842]

@@jemimus Oh very interesting, that was very helpful, thank you!

[@Johnny641]

Using the Z axis on the sticks that have it works really well for aeroplanes, it's bit of a chore for helos though . Mat Wagner (Wags) who works for Eagle Dynamics and does lots of YT DCS guides I believe is also a paraplegic. Might be worth looking up his set up. Hit up the Hoggit group on Reddit, I am sure they will give you some advise, there might be others in the same situation.

[@6la6ng6e]

What you say is the friction on the Warthog throttle is in fact an axis. The friction is the black one on top.

[@grimreapers]

sorry yeh that's what I meant.

[@bandit1797]

Cap: hates the hornet Also cap: gets sponsored by a Hornet HOTAS

[@grimreapers]

irony?

[@9HighFlyer9]

@@grimreapers it's coincidence not irony.

[@yjwrangler7819]

Cap adores the Hornet so much he hates it

[@9HighFlyer9]

@@yjwrangler7819 I believe sarcastic is a synonym of ironic.

[@yjwrangler7819]

@@9HighFlyer9 Quite right

[@razghost2]

Cap referencing the warthog: "I couldn't get on with it, it was never right for me" Winwing: Oh shit what have we done

[@LiamTucker]

Brushes are to stop dust... Food.... Cats.... And other things from falling in to the mechanism. 😊 - Tux

[@isotaan]

Up/Down switch on the front of the throttle is supposed to be the radar elevation control. Controls on the right side of the throttle that you were curious about is for the dispense countermeasures, select radio, and use the speed brake. Chuck's Guide (Part 3) has a detailed layout of the HOTAS controls on the real life Hornet. Whether you want to keep it or not is really up to your personal preference.

[@joshuajackson1616]

For the Warthog the tension lever is at the top front of the system. The grey lever on the side is a slider that you map.

[@Jinx19766]

Capt! I just ordered mine last night! Got the same one as you except I didn't get the twist stick. Thanks for your vids they really helped. Id never have even known about WinWing if it wasn't for your vid.

[@grimreapers]

WEll done :)

[@BroncoBoy91]

"I'm a professional virtual pilot" "Here we have this guy to tell us how everything works, while i film him telling you" LOL

[@Ironwulf2000]

The brushes help stop crap getting in the throttle slots... whilst allowing the throttles to move freely.

[@DreadwingOne]

Cap, you completely removed the spring, not realizing that the axis starts at 0 on the idle stop... When you lift the fingerlifts and pull back or push forward from the furthest aft position it activates buttons for idle/cutoff. If you have a look at the manual there are two alan screws, one on each side, one adjusts the position of the throttle grips and the other adjusts the ab detent. You can soften the detent to where it's no longer there, instead of removing the spring for the lifts.

[@nolanconner1850]

i guess im asking the wrong place but does any of you know a method to log back into an instagram account..? I somehow forgot the account password. I love any tricks you can give me.

[@landonjay4143]

@Nolan Conner Instablaster :)

[@nolanconner1850]

@Landon Jay Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

[@nolanconner1850]

@Landon Jay It worked and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy! Thanks so much you saved my account :D

[@landonjay4143]

@Nolan Conner You are welcome :D

[@dannyd7714]

Bottom switch on throttle is for air brakes. Hold back to extend, click forward to retract.

[@JoeRockstar]

WTF? Lol removed the detent. Might cut the brushes out he says.... Lol This guy would put ketchup on a filet mignon

[@grimreapers]

I like Ketchup though!

[@TimberDCS]

Dont make me kill you

[@JoeRockstar]

Yeah but...I have had the winwing throttle for about 3 months. It's almost perfect. I am sure ketchup would just ruin it.🤘🏽

[@TimberDCS]

@@JoeRockstar how did u get them in stock in the first place

[@JoeRockstar]

@@TimberDCS I emailed them and they told me the day they would be available. I got one, and then they sold out again.

[@aidenparente5405]

Rebinding controls for all your air-frames is going to be fun

[@markfowler9692]

Soooo Glad you have a Professional piece of equipment now... You have what I consider the Best system in the industry... Congratulations M8... mine was $1050.00 shipped to the USA... I also have the Warthog and i couldn't get along with it either, the amount of pressure required is for me at least wayyyyyyy to much... The WInWing is soooo smooth, no more curves, no more fiddling around, everything is simply perfect !...Well done M8... And welcome to the WinWing club !

[@grimreapers]

Thanks Mark!

[@markfowler9692]

@@grimreapers Hey Cap, how you getting on with that Amazing piece of equipment you now have ??? As far as a Zoom button - I use the second hat switch on the throtle - Up and Down i use as zoom in and out etc, left to right is Comm 1 and 2...

[@rodriquezivey2023]

Box 📦 box box 📦 box 📦 box 📦

[@paytonschaefer9912]

Cap the switch at 11:20 is how thr 18 pilots select the air to air missles, forward for aim-7, center push for aim-9, aft activates the gun, and right activates aim-120

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@GrindBass86]

Cap hitting us with that dad camera angle right off the bat.

[@enley782]

I made a homemade joystick a year ago but I took it apart a week or too ago, thinking about making a new one soon.

[@SarcastSempervirens]

The brushes on the throttle are to keep the dust away from the inside of the unit. Those are long wide holes in the box, stuff can fall in - dust, coins, pizza...

[@andyyoung5846]

The scroll on the throttle, that you programmed for zoom, on the F/A-18 is the Antenna elevation control. Allows you to slew the antenna up or down depending on where you want the antenna to be scanning/ searching.

[@irememberjeepz]

Glad to hear GR is sponsored, well deserved for all the hard work.

[@grimreapers]

thxx

[@JonesingUSAF]

I love that not stones, lbs, or kilos is your measure scale but weight with reference to your cat! I do the same thing lol!

[@malesu1068]

The tensioner on the Warthog throttle is at the back[Decr-Friction-Incr] not on the side

[@grimreapers]

Copy

[@sourfrog]

It's kind of funny when someone criticizes something they never used.

[@GunnyHighway23]

I'm building my first gaming PC and the first game I want to get is this game, and mostly because of your content. Thanks for the videos cap. Also....If you don't want that warthog HOTAS....lol I know a guy who wants one!

[@victorm316]

I paid little over 600 for my warthog hotas. And your right. I hate how stiff the stick is. Makes it hard to formation and to air to air refuel. Thinking about selling it

[@kiethyrich]

well done mate. you deserve it for all your hard work.

[@grimreapers]

thxx

[@Gambler1-1]

I use an x56, so I'm glad you did all you bindings videos with the x56

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@Flyright07]

It's about time Cap! Good on you and the boys for all the hard work!

[@grimreapers]

thx!

[@Pablo668]

This is awesome, I think you deserve it. I enjoy the channel.....a lot. Well done.

[@RA-II]

The detent back is for shutdown the engines. Forward detent is for afterburner . For the f 18. Only the back detent is used in the A-10c for engine shutdown NO forward detent is use since A-10c dont have afterburner

[@crashnburn2351]

Hey Cap. I guess the only question I have is..... If this was just a borrowed HOTAS from a mate, when it had to go back, would you be forking out your hard earned cash on your own setup?

[@grimreapers]

As I am now NO. When I get more financially settled YES.

[@jeo228]

Now is a terrible time to get into flight sims. My father convinced me to buy squadrons and Ive been wanting to try DCs and project wingman for a while now, but looking up a simple HOTAS stick and throttle shocked me at how high prices went. luckilly the old man had an old HOTAS 3 lying around for me to use.

[@HuntressMedia]

Thanks for inviting us into your home, and the candid video of a great new toy! Pretty neat how much has become available for "sim heads"!!

[@superflyguy4488]

The turny knob for zoom is a gamechanger, and why ive stuff with my X55, also the lower turney knob is perfect for the Harrier and changing the angle of the nozzles.

[@grimreapers]

Yup im not sure how to do Harrier nozzles without my turny knobs.

[@billnickless]

Lower turny knob is also perfect for adjusting gyro gunsight range in warbirds like the Jug and Mustang.

[@TStark-vj2wo]

if you have a magnet around and it sticks in the slightest, then the shell is either some type of steel, or stainless steel (generally SS is considered non-magnetic, but many types are a little magnetic). With that said it could be Aluminum, but it wouldn't be that heavy. If you move a magnet across the surface (of Al or copper), and you 'feel' a drag then it's one of those two metals, due to eddy currents being created by the magnet in the metal (over simplified explanation).

[@lance_the_avocado9492]

Thanks for making this video. its kind of a coincidence, i just started getting back into DCS and I've never had a HOTAS in my life, so I've been playing DCS with my keyboard for a long time.

[@xEclipse56x]

Congrats on the sponsorship! Really cool to see companies supporting the boys

[@bjrnchrstn]

Brushes are there to avoid dust getting in the unit.

[@Johnny-kn2pp]

Have my super Libra arriving tomorrow 😁. Need to save a small fortune for the throttle! Great vid Cap

[@Johnny-kn2pp]

Anyone order the Winwing Super Libra combo and only receive the base and desktop plate? My order arrived this morning but it's missing the fa/18 joystick grip 😞

[@BlueBaron3339]

Rather than make my usual jet dig I must say that stick setup is really impressive and would really suit the Warbird folks. No boosted controls in that era. Thus a long stick provided needed leverage.

[@arx_7804]

I'd argue the warthog should be in the intermediate with the x56. Most of the weight in the warthog throttle is just a metal plate in the middle

[@Dicey151]

Jacque and the other voice characters will be swearing in various accents when you forget where all your new controls are. Lol.. looks amazing

[@arrtemfly]

what i've learned today: 1) cap uses inches! 2) cap's got a new pc!

[@grimreapers]

both true

[@isotaan]

Opened throttle box upside down. My OCD is raging!

[@TheAtomicSpoon]

Couldn't get the warthog how I liked it either, using the VKB gunfighter III and the VPC Mongoose CM2 throttle now. Both are nice, but I fly too much space to go the dedicated modern flight setup I think.

[@HeartbreakOne1337]

Im very very jealous CAP :D i wish you a lot of fun with it

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@Mako-sz4qr]

How exciting ! Congrats cap and GR

[@Mako-sz4qr]

They should send Ozzy one too

[@TheF16fan]

18:30 Thats the speedbrakeswitch my friend ;) Aft to open it, forward to close

[@mzaite]

Need to twist that grip about 15 degrees CCW your wrist will thank you.

[@grimreapers]

just done it! perfect now

[@MarksGuitarLounge]

Congratulations on the New Sponsor and the Free Gear. Your Hard work and Dedication to Not only the Sim Game but The Community by way of content / Give back Lessons and Tips is a Happy reward for you. I am Happy to see this happen to you. Best of Luck looking forward to seeing you use it. I use the X56 3 unit and I too like it. It is a good Serviceable unit to get the job done till moving on when the need arises. What I love about your new setup is the Switch panel LOL I go nuts for switches. I use VR all the time in DCS so Give me touchable switch panels to Helen Keller feel in VR. Again I'm very happy for you Love all the Content you give us.

[@FS2K4Pilot]

Cap, putting the detent back will help you immensely with energy management, especially in planes like the F-14, where inadvertently going into blower will really hurt you.

[@grimreapers]

It's not just that, It shakes the desk. Massive PITA.

[@FS2K4Pilot]

Grim Reapers Frankly that desk looks very easily shakable. A sturdier desk would likely solve that. I personally really like the detents on my Warthog HOTAS. I remove the afterburner detent most of the time, because C-17s and other trash haulers don’t have them, but the Idle detent is really useful for controlling thrust reversers.

[@FlavourlessLife]

You might want a rudder twist axis on the stick if you don’t have any legs, maybe? Seriously though, I’ve recently had to stop simming for while because I’ve been suffering loads with back issues and I blame my rudder pedals (I fly helos almost exclusively, and for 5 hours at a time usually). Really has made me realise how important ergonomics is...

[@56WagonWheel]

Can you mix a joy stick and throttle from different manufacturers. I can get a winning joystick but no throttle. Can you pair a winning joystick with a warthog throttle?

[@grimreapers]

yes that works.

[@simonng1806]

Those switches behind the throttle are called 'finger lifts'.

[@fjb5894]

Once Winwing sells you the product, you never hear back from them. I complained about several issues and NEVER heard back. Stay clear...

[@armhunter]

A real aircraft controls get stiffer in flight! At least the private jet I got to fly did. The further you pulled the harder it got to pull. I love my warthog stick! Feels amazing to me. And what makes it a non professional grade stick? does it need more buttons? lol.

[@bearcatracing007]

All I heard was Cap has a big package...... Well done Cap, that looks fantastic. I don't even play (yet) and I'm jealous! Ps: Hi Pickles, I see you..

[@grimreapers]

PickPick says hello Jesus.

[@hoilst]

The HOTAS price jump is easy: both a) MS Flight Sim, and b) Covid.

[@surturrising7021]

The prices have gone up because of the release of the new microsoft flight simulator, thank god i bought my joystick before the release so i paid 40 euros for a beginner stick (still better than nothing imo)

[@T1TaN_Plus]

"I'm not sure what it does in the real plane"...."just like in the real f18"

[@matt11b77]

Cool video! Living vicariously through these :) Thanks!

[@usarmytanker137]

Dam bro, got my mouth to water this morning. I will be owning that HOTAS. Getting set back now after the wife got an abscess tooth 🦷, gotta get her straightened out first. Always something happening here brother. It’s just my income. Not easy anymore you know.

[@1975riggs]

cap got a hotas for free.....sure he will talk good about them i have mine since last year........and i bought it......i am not a cadger

[@TheBenghaziRabbit]

Right on Cap! Finally off the X56 Hope you are well!

[@markharris8929]

Cap, you need to change the main spring on the Warthog to get the feel you want. Green would be ideal or get an extension for more realistic pivot feel.

[@mntahoe_2957]

Those old ch pedals are still the best!

[@markbeeston8145]

Nice vid and I like to see the Winwing offerings. I’ve been a Thrustmaster man through my virtual flying career. FCS, then F16 Cougar as well as the Warthog which I use for f18,F14 and F15 in DCS. I’m sticking with my current selection for now....until Winwing bring out their F16 Throttle - a compulsory purchase and hope they send you one to test.👍👍👍

[@rickmasseur2008]

Finger Lifts, Cap. Those lifts on the left and right throttles.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@wecanbuildit2196]

Congratulations! I think this is one of the best birthday gifts))

[@Hammadsahb91]

Nice to actually see you mate 😊

[@gr-skil]

Awesome looking bit of kit there Cap.

[@flappyBoi]

Good to see that you finally got some decent kit :D

[@franciscoborges9591]

Enjoy CAP nice & simple👌 great video

[@njcr4688]

Wow...nice. every DCS pilots dream. My £7 second hand joystick was so bad I have switched to an xbox controller for more buttons and works ok. Best get saving

[@dalebachman2892]

Wow! I'm envious!! The Winwing looks great but I noticed you are using CH Pro Pedals and I'm wondering if your going to uprade to a full size rudder pedals like the TM TPR Rudder Pedals?

[@grimreapers]

Yup will replace soon.

[@ArkaneInfinity]

Hey if your not using the A10 warthog I would LOVE to do a video on in and possibly buy it.

[@danielharris3827]

Happy 40th!!!

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@JD96893]

Nice! I really need a throttle! One day i'll get something like this!

[@razor75250]

Cap, what are going to do if they ever release the super hornet??? It's a much better plane!!!!

[@grimreapers]

Is the Superbug stick different?

[@tuffguy007]

You are going to remount the X-56, aren't you?

[@KomradeDoge]

Oof I can see why it's $1000 for this set. That panel alongside the throttle is damn near 1-1 with the real F18.

[@lnaesll]

I have an x56 and I can’t get that wheel to become my zoom. How did you do that?

[@grimreapers]

Make sure you use the ZOOM command in the AXIS CONTROLS sub menu. Just twist knob fully both ways and will work.

[@lnaesll]

@@grimreapers awesome! Thanks! This was driving me crazy. Now just waiting for my track ir to show up.

[@imaner76]

I have not been told anything, so I can say anything. Yep that's CAP. 😎

[@PS2ltdan83]

The virpil throttle has more bottons and hats on the actual throttle but its not a true recreation. I do like the two panels that winwing makes, wish I could get them but they are out of stock.

[@CONTESTANT1]

NIIIIICE!!!! Congrats Cap!

[@FJCARQUIM]

Where can I buy that HOTAS of the F18? ... How much does it cost?

[@Gunfreak19]

So you NEED pedals to use this? As the joystick doesn't have rudder jaw possibility?

[@grimreapers]

yes BUT there is a "Z" version that has a twist stick. (I think it's same price)

[@KoryGatley]

I have an X56 as well and I have an issue where buttons will randomly activate. For example I wont be touching the throttle then all of a sudden the gear will go down. It does it on both throttle and stick. Updated drivers, plugged into USB 2.0 not 3.0, directly into the MOBO, only have a keyboard, mouse, throttle, stick, headset, and VR headset plugged into USB. Idk what is causing it but it is really frustrating when I am dog fighting and all of a sudden I go into AG mode lol. Has this ever happened to you?

[@Mav20071]

want to make an order scared the hell 799 for the combo added with 149 for shipping and then custums add 249 total 1200 total WY ??? su dammed expensive

[@nedbainbridge308]

Wait there are two videos

[@grimreapers]

ya

[@PaperworkNinja]

Which one of those is the green button?

[@grimreapers]

Hidden under my chair.

[@zdenekoldrichmarek2867]

The brushes protect the pivots switches and bearings from YOUR DANDRUFF falling inside onto them. Leave the brushes alone !

[@RA-II]

Oh great video and thanks

[@W1ngnut27]

I have pretty much the same rug!

[@jcag_command]

The throttle looks amazing but the stick has a worryingly large seam and panel gap near the top and the two screws also look strange. Doesn't 'look' expensive from here but that's just my opinion from watching on KZbin only. Hope you have fun with that setup Cap!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@TimberDCS]

*cries in T16000M* But if I ever need to get rid of ur warthog I'm here lol

[@CMDRSweeper]

Still better than what I fly with outside DCS... Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 :D

[@heatblur1]

The brushes on the throttle keeps dust and debris out. Don't remove them.

[@dsplayer3722]

So what's your plan with your old X56 Rhino? I would personally like to buy one second or third hand for cheap by most of them are going to extremely high prices at the moment. So get in touch if you would like to sell it to me.

[@grimreapers]

Giving away X56 and Warthog when finished with them