HUGE Iranian Missile, Drone & Boat Strike On US Carrier Group In Mediterranean (WarGames 179) | DCS

With two US carrier groups being sent to the Mediterranean Sea, we simulate a fictional strike by Iran from Syria on one of these carrier groups. Iran uses 150 Silkworm missiles, 150 Drone and 50 Attack Boats in the attack.
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[@johnhermann7498]

So I am sitting here on duty and I get an alert on my phone that Iran attacks a US Carrier... Yeah.... My heart skipped a bit until I realized it was a GR video.... Now to watch the video...

[@algroyp3r]

They did actually launch a couple of missiles, but they were intercepted easily!

[@mtech1961]

Clickbait title GRRRH

[@saiedvalypour1963]

​@@algroyp3rThat wasn't iran and it wasn't aimed at the ship .

[@streetcop157]

You know for a brief time the little pixels in the boats saw all those drones and all those missles and thought this is awsome, there won’t be anything less by the time we get there.

[@haruyanto8085]

Kinda scary thing to think that a real drone swarm striking a carrier group would be much much larger and accompanied by all sorts of missiles.

[@billyelliot4141]

Definitely. Oversaturation is the goal.

[@usem_and_losem937]

I wouldn't be surprised if the us has electronic counter measures

[@Theredmengroup]

If the drones are gps guided or whatever couldn’t they be defeated by moving the carrier

[@AyOuB.God-soldier]

​@@Theredmengroupthey can put a terminal guidance

[@alexdeeprose2303]

It’s not really scary tbh. This scenario relied on some hugely unrealistic situations…..massed boats just bein allowed to stage next to the carrier group, the CH being so close to the coast, etc. Realistically none of this could happen. Great fun to Wargame though!

[@KyleCowden]

Interesting thought experiment... and entertaining. Let's hope the strategists are playing out these scenarios in Prepar3d since that's their "official" sim. You created the Kobiyashi Maru for the carrier group and they beat it.

[@muzmason3064]

War games are played 24/7 in several nations, logistics are the key to success in most scenarios except MAD and even if a group was struck the retaliation would be painful

[@MuffHam]

Hezbollah has 100,000 missiles / rockets. Increase the amount from 150 drone/missiles to 1500 each. That's 3000 drones and missiles the carrier group cannot stop all of that and will be sunk. Even if the carrier group manages to escape they are out of the fight for weeks. To travel back to a supply port and rearm. The cost to taxpayer will be huge. The USA would go broke before they even deal with the 100,000 missiles/rockets from just Hezbollah. We still haven't counted what Iran has, China, Russia.

[@_Jay_Maker_]

@@MuffHam lmao

[@mrspeigle1]

​@MuffHam unguided rockets are usless against moving targets and they have to be in range to have a chance at launching.

[@jabroni6199]

@@MuffHamyou realize the us has bases all over the world and satellite imagery right? They’ll take most of them out from distances the drones and missiles cannot reach before they even get a chance to launch.

[@tbranch227]

I was thinking "how stupidly close to shore does cap have to get this carrier group to shore to make this possible?" Didn't disappoint lol

[@cuz129]

Very cool Sim! So entertaining. And the chatter between all of you is delightful. Very witty folk! I doubt you guys know quite how much we fans love this content. But we do.

[@stoptellingmewhattowrite]

Launchers should definitely be spaced out since multiple targets are getting destroyed by one SAM missile... even then those attacks came surprisingly close.

[@alexanderthompson9070]

Simba in the last minute is the best Simba

[@TheRelativy]

It does not matter if the iranian armada sink or even hit anything. This carrier strike group is going home anyway. They fired everything and are defenceless since US navy can not reload VLS at sea. So anyway. Carrier group is out of this area for quite some time.

[@DR-jq9bg]

Great video, Cap! Very interesting scenarios considering what's happening over there right now.

[@billr3654]

I think the premise of a carrier group being 45 miles offshore is unrealistic.

[@rbrick3685]

Gotta stretch the boundaries for content. Realistically, it would be very far away

[@John2r1]

​@@rbrick3685 realistically the US Navy would have shot down those missiles then deployed everything they have . Meaning F35s Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Boeing EA-18G Growler and if they have any Rapid Dragon pallets on board the C-2 Greyhounds can carry 10,000lbs of palletized cargo. So a couple pallets of cruise missiles would definitely send the right message. Not to mention that call saying we're under attack just invited the closes air base with US forces on it to get in the air. In other words Syria is about to become a parking lot in this scenario lol.

[@84MadHatter]

it was all unrealistic, the point is will ever advantage given to Iran they still could not get a hit

[@custossecretus5737]

They still have to pass through the straights of Hormuz which is 20 to 50 nautical miles wide in places. Iran has silkworm missile sites around that choke point too.

[@ceryni11]

Not if the admiral wanted to visit his mistress

[@jmtpolitico80]

YES!!!!!!!!!! THANKS GUYS! BEST DCS CHANNEL BY FAR!!!!

[@Elzon1]

Yeah, spacing the launchers too close together caused the problem where the missiles were able to take out multiple silkworms and/or drones with only one missile once again. Both the silkworm and drone launchers need to spaced out as much as possible. Also, like others in the comment section pointed out the launches need to be better timed out. First launch the boats and let them go until they're getting close to the point where they would be picked up on by the carrier group to be intercepted. Then, launch the drones so that they begin saturating the carrier group's SAM network. Once the carrier group's SAM network begins intercepting the drones is when the silkworms should launch. Timing it that way gives the boats time to get close enough to start being useful in that they might get close enough to basically spawn camp any fighters launching from the carrier while they shoot at the carrier's radar and other detection systems. The drones will give the boats cover from the fighters for a while to get closer due to the SAM network potentially shooting down friendlies while intercepting the drones. When the drones start being intercepted is when the silkworms should launch as that allows for a time gap between when the slower drones launch and when the much faster silkworms launch. As the drones saturate the SAM network and start working their way closer to the ships the silkworms launch and start catching up with drones acting as fodder/cover for the approaching silkworms. Once the silkworms finally start passing the drones is when the SAM network will start dealing with them as well. However, at that point the silkworms will have gotten much, much closer and may get through the SAM network so as to damage the carrier to prevent the launch of it's fighter wings.

[@matthewcox7985]

Is that what the phrase "Time on Target" refers to? Launching stuff at different times so it all arrives at once?

[@Mister_Rat_]

​@@matthewcox7985No time on target means how long they can/should stay on target before going bakc to base

[@Elzon1]

Correct, but in this case it will be more like staggered launches. First the boats as they're the slowest and they'll need quite a bit of time to close the distance before the other launches. Next, the drones will launch which will catch up to the boats relatively quickly and they will begin to saturate the carrier group's SAM network. Finally, once the drones begin to be intercepted and saturate the SAM network the Silkworms will launch which are by far the fastest munitions in that attack. The Silkworms will quickly catch up to the drone wave as they keep the network saturated. Due to waiting a while to launch the Silkworms they will end up covering a greater distance and get much closer to the carrier group before the network finally begins to prioritize them once they get closer than the drones. Only then will the begin to get intercepted. That gives them the best chance of breaking through the SAM network and hitting the carrier or other ships in the group. @@matthewcox7985

[@Elzon1]

No he is correct. Time on target is timing the munitions/artillery to all hit near the same time. Time over target is what you're referring to.@@Mister_Rat_

[@LoisoPondohva]

All the times when aa intercepted multiple drones/missiles with one interceptor were at least compensated by all the times drones/missiles survived direct hits due to lag.

[@darthkarl99]

General point i'd make, as a viewer when things are crazy hectic like with the big swarm of stuff at the start it's much easier to tell what's going on from the tactical view than watching all the contrails. Also any chance we could see this redone with other nations carriers, just to see what might be different.

[@strambino1]

Great job reapers. Another fun scenario, always loved the bog hammer missions!

[@zippyziphead]

Free airshows are the stuff of life.

[@andrewsmall6834]

The captain of the Costa Concordia got a new job.

[@RealJordi]

Hey Cap, just want to say thanks for reacting and testing real events that have been happening recently and been keeping up with it. Amazing content! Also been subbed for 2 years keep going 🗿🗿🍷🍷

[@RealJordi]

@bigwhite21 Well there were militants who got their hands on some missiles, Iran, Palestine, Egypt idk because im not going to bother reading a BBC article. They then fired off those missiles at the carrier group which were intercepted VERy easily. And I know it wasn't 1000 fucking drones but still the group was attacked and they are near palestine as of now and they are about 120-190 k's out to sea.

[@brazoon1]

I followed this video from a comment request in the China vs USA video. Well done responding to viewer requests!

[@vector8877]

Would there be a possibility of the inclusion of EW for the ships? I've heard that irl when they were intercepting those missiles and drones they made extensive use of the EW, to down 8 munitions out of the 19, as only 11 interceptors were fired, the rest were killed by the AN/SLQ-32 system

[@duanemckinley9353]

Sadly DCS doesn't have a good way to simulate EW

[@mrspeigle1]

Also no usage of the deck guns, or integrated combat air patrol. Ageis is poorly represented.

[@sunrisejackdaw1779]

@@mrspeigle1 Aegis can assign SM-2ER engagements by flickering the radar illuminators, track friendlies and ignore them, etc meanwhile main gun can be used for AAA of all airborne targets ...that and the machine gun fire is just a meme lol who needs phalanx? Ensign and his trusty GAU will do just fine.

[@fritzharun390]

This is very timely mate nice job👍 that you create this war games.

[@AvidboMerrion]

Reminds me of the old classic arcade game "Missle Command"

[@HabitualButtonPusher]

In reality this would never work. You have to take in the electronic warfare aspect. The majority of drones work of a few standards frequencies. Firing that many, operators signals would override others causing about 5-10% loss and having a EA-18 Growler jamming the entire frequency spectrum would null and void any signals getting to the drones. There are stories of certain EA-6B’s just wrecking any guidance transmitters and receivers under specific “shock and awe” conditions. They aren’t widely used since the very attack also affects “you” as well.

[@rbrick3685]

Yeah, it’s one things people often forget when saying: Drone swarms could defeat a ship. BEECH Systems alone have proven effective. As well as J-Crews

[@matthewcox7985]

If I recall correctly, Shahed drones don't use remote operators; they use GPS/Glonass/etc. to find their way to targets. Inertial guidance isn't out of the question either, so signal jamming may not affect them. Still, if a Prowler or Growler gets close enough, any unshielded electronics will go bye bye!

[@PackaGame]

M8 you are way over estimating the reliability and efficacy of EW… On a few targets, maybe, on hundreds, nope. Same with the missile intercept concept here. Sorry to say but there is no way in hell to independently target that many targets, it’s just not going to happen. You’ll end up with some getting targeted multiple times and others none at all.

[@joost298]

❤❤❤ Thanks a lot my favorite topic.

[@crashatau]

WW2 battle group with flak has entered chat.

[@volt_8339]

god i love our bottomless defense budget

[@AJLaRocque54]

Outstanding. Thank you.

[@johneckert1690]

The RAND Corporation released a report stating that the cost of training a basic qualified fighter pilot ranges from $5.6 million for an F-16 pilot to $10.9 million for an F-22 pilot. Costs are also high for pilots training on attack aircraft and bombers. The total estimated costs for training a basic qualified A-10 pilot added up to $5.96 million while the total for a B-2 stealth bomber pilot about $10 million.

[@cuz129]

We absolutely love free air shows!

[@jameslarson319]

For those claiming that one middle couldn’t take out multiple, I’d just like to point out that some of the middles are NOT kinetic energy based and are instead flak based. So imagine a sky full of coned out metal flying through the air. It’s not unrealistic or impossible for one middle to take out multiple others. Also air craft carriers have their own anti missile defense systems, they don’t solely rely on the carrier group to handle everything. Just a large chunk of it. Also with real deconfliction I lean toward saying that there’d be an even higher hit to kill ratio than what we saw. But let’s all be honest. It’s awesome watching this. A swarm of drones and missiles heading to a carrier group…. The sky quick to turn grey with trails from missiles fired from the strike group! God think how loud it’d be.

[@Aussiem8e]

Definitely enjoyed the free airshow! Lol, i am wanting to start playing this game.

[@Anarchy_420]

My request! Thanks Cap your the best!👍👍

[@P_Mann]

I think I’m going to hear Cap’s “…for some silly reason…” every time I see tactical shortcuts used (I hope) just to make the videos work. 😜

[@guestimator121]

@P_Mann I don't see why the Carier Group would have to be that close. Shaheeds can go 2000km and anti-ship missiles can definitelly go beyond 45 miles. Of course with 2000km range, you would have to aim for a predesignated GPS coordinates not for a carrier group which is a moving target, but neverthelesss, Iranians have a wide variety of drones, most of which can go beyond a few hundred kilometers in range and a few of them have live video feed.

[@darthkarl99]

@@guestimator121 Server performance. Cap mentions it in practically every other video, DCS just doesn't handle large amounts of stuff in flight at once gracefully.

[@jrizos06]

Great fight! Simba's gone beyond his original programming at the end there, Cap - you may have a potential Skynet situation on your hands soon

[@wolfgangjr74]

OHM. I had just woken up and didn't have my glasses on. I saw this post as my first popup on my cell and thought it was real. Doh!

[@bladeslicemaster5390]

I was thinking of this mission, and BAM, it happened! thanks

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

Hornets sound like Tie Fighters! This was a very cool simulation! Even though the US reconnaissance for the Navy, would've never let Iran build up the attack in the first place.

[@shaunholt]

Saw this in my subs feed and thought all right, it's on. 🍿 Oh. Simulation.

[@ryanerickson8138]

“Ten Mavericks out. Hoochie mama.” - Cap, 2023

[@spacetragedy]

5:15 hey Cap, i find singing Mr. Burns's "see mu vest" song is a great stress reliever during mass inbound missile salvos :)))

[@coreymoyers5771]

The Ford Class would be powering up that DEW for this defense.

[@AmirShafeek]

The non existant one

[@AmirShafeek]

@@coreymoyers5771 I'm sorry I didn't know that there was one actively serving in the US navy. Today, I'll have to look More into it.

[@AmirShafeek]

@@coreymoyers5771 After looking into it A director energy weapon is being tested, but it is not currently or actively being used by any navy in the world.

[@tbe0116]

@@AmirShafeekNot true. The USS Ponce had the LaWS laser ~20 kw laser deployed from 2014-2018. The USS Preble currently has the 60KW HELIOS system. Supposedly the Helios system is being scaled to 120kw. Also, the Ford class carriers have some sort of microwave energy system but nothing is know about its capabilities yet.

[@coreymoyers5771]

@@AmirShafeek keep looking. There are multiple results. On KZbin, they tested it, and it has even been reported on the news. If the military has released all this information, how much more capability do you think they have not released? For example, they are listed on the newest update to the ac-130 Ghostrider platform. I did a quick search and was going to link it, but there were too many results. I only have time to look through some of them to find the best one for you. Google only works when you do.

[@ShaneJao]

“Hell yeah, Super Legacy Hornet !!”🤙🏽😁

[@erikerice9068]

If Grupnik were flying, he would not forget.

[@WyvernFalken]

🥴

[@tangoprime]

This is like watching a battle from the last couple of Honor Harrington series books.

[@delmccormack7001]

The Iranians actually did that on October 20, 2023. The US carriers are fine. Kinda makes a mockery out of Iran.

[@AmirShafeek]

Source

[@andrewbennett7756]

Good evening great show

[@blademaster2390]

In regards to the speedboats shooting the Mavericks…yeah the guns on those are static Dshkas directly manned by a person, and Mavericks aren’t exactly the most invisible to the human eye. If the guy manning the gun spots the Maverick coming in, they absolutely could point the gun towards it and pull the trigger. They wouldn’t be the most accurate shots in the world, but they could certainly still try

[@tsharak1]

I notice in a lot of these battles that CIWS is not used or not functioning. At least not that I can tell. No Phalanx, no Rolling Air Frame.

[@grimreapers]

All CIWS functioned in this (they don't use tracers these days). 5 RAMs were fired.

[@stormboy1517]

@GR Droning on and on...🔥😂

[@msytdc1577]

5:37 FYI mobile users can now pinch-zoom to see the scoreboard in the KZbin app, so everyone should be able to see it.

[@muzmason3064]

Great what if 😊

[@SabaDhutt]

It's amazing that all of these weapons and weapon systems actually exist.

[@harleyme3163]

and to think one ww2 era battleship coulda flattened the whole shoreline from 40 miles away... no need for missiles that Can be shot down... 16" shells dont get shot down :-\

[@jeffdunnell6693]

Pretty good scenario video,

[@erikerice9068]

Sometimes it's all about the awesome not about the reality

[@pandaslayer]

Buff cruising above salivating at that target rich environment on the beach.

[@jcremeringful]

Enjoyable video as always….even with bog’s!

[@terencyowens9491]

This... but with a full up WW 2 carrier battle group VS. the drones.

[@twodaves9480]

10:32 did anyone else hear the Tie Fighter scream here or was it just me? 😂

[@graystonwadzinnski6389]

Whenever Grump says "Rifel" he needs to say "Grump-le" instead.

[@jamieboyles5792]

By the way love your videos

[@Tenright77]

Thx Cap, I sent you ten Pizzas...

[@Stateless7]

That poor sailor lol 10:16

[@j-twd930]

Look at the spending cost: 30M vs 100M at the begining!

[@Jeffrey.1978]

23:00 - They decided to stop and decide if it is worth going the rest of the way based on how many of them are left. lol

[@apollogames8806]

Cap I have a suggestion. you should consider adding a relative cost to the counter. The US has a 23 trillion dollar GDP while Iran has 300 billion. This war game would have costed Iran double what it would have costed the US. It's a really small amount of the GDP like .015 % for Iran and .0070 % for the US, but it would be cool to see implemented.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Now you're trying to make it look like Iran actually cares about silly stuff like that. Remember, USSR had a 70 frigging percent defence spending in the sixties. "GDP, what's GDP?"

[@tomsoki5738]

This as a time on target attack and spaced out more would probably take out the carrier, even if a standing air patrol was up and AWACS was around

[@larrysouthern5098]

Great video... lets hope this doesn,t become a real life situation...

[@jokiejoker2011]

Great vid but let’s be sure to remember the poor sailor that had the misfortune of being in the way of Caps launch. I saw in my head that poor yellow shirt being wiped off the windshield

[@timbaskett6299]

Okay, a carrier group can defend against a higher altitude missile strike, sea skimmers, and fast boats. The only thing I can that hasn't been tried or even invented yet is a high-speed surface effect missile. Basically, it's a smaller rocket powered version of the Ekranoplan.

[@Moses_VII]

That's the same as a sea skimming missile. They all use ground effect.

[@kith00000]

This would engage that scene from "We were soldiers", broken arrow......

[@General_Artorius]

You forgot about the probably 2 US submarines nobody knew were there to begin with. Syria now has a new coastline and a lot of burnt up equipment that never got off half those drones and missiles. The super bugs can handle the boats. Game over.

[@RES915SQD]

Cap, I haven’t seen any self-defense weapons (ESSM, Legacy Sea-sparrow, or Rolling Airframe Missile) on US CVNs. They may be able to help with those leak through Anti-ship weapons.

[@haruyanto8085]

Not even cap, this is lowballing swarm drones, if Iran fired drones equaling only about 10% of the total cost of a US carrier group, they would easily overwhelm a carrier group.

[@darthkarl99]

@@haruyanto8085 Iran probably doesn't have that many drones built though.

[@darthkarl99]

They're using a model that only has CIWIS.

[@grimreapers]

The CV's we have have Old Sea Sparrow and RAM, but not ESSM. And CIWS.

[@darthkarl99]

@@grimreapers I stand corrected, sorry. Never noticed it using anything but the CIWS though.

[@dbrownss1480]

While this was beyond silly....can we get a "proportional us response" scenario? Iran knows what happened when a US destroyer ran into an Iranian mine. I'd say the title should be "Iran becomes the world's largest glass producer". Seems that would be proportional for trying to sink a carrier

[@inthegarage342]

That's funny. Sending bass boats with RPG's out to meet the US Navy.

[@dadlife4113]

How have I never come across or heard of this game?!

[@Evocati-Augusti]

I've had a 27 ft boat, with 2 Volvo Penta 270s which are V-8s and at 20 MPH there is no way in hell I would be able to hit a moving target...let alone 60 MPH, if you dropped a bomb within 50 feet of my boat I would surely be fcked.

[@Retrocidal]

wow this si so cool to see Iran has made a good military with what they have drones are there big thing now iran have tens of thousands of drones also

[@OGSomeOne]

Besides the tactical of spreading the attack out in a 360 degree, or as near to as possible, the only way those attacking units can cluster like that is if Iran has Air Superiority. If this were the case, the carriers not be there.

[@dexlab7539]

Lesson: Never Bollocks Simba

[@mstevens113]

10 minutes in and it's effectively a mission kill. The carrier group would have to pull back to rearm so its out of the fight.

[@mikejulien2330]

Cap: “forgive me, haven’t flown one of these in a while” How could you forget? Don’t you just hit the big green button?😂

[@souvikdey6648]

Nothing can touch Us carrier. *Only in DCS*

[@Nomoreidsleft]

Have you modeled the Hamas missles against the Iron Dome yet?

[@jefferyschneider6394]

Can you do another version but more realistic where things are more spread out and tactical instead of these big waves

[@ADR1fley]

Sadly their servers may not be able to handle all of that at once.

[@PolarPenguin526]

How do you show the loss screen on the top right??

[@kevinzeh3559]

Holy vampire batman

[@trailfork7815]

war in isarael and ukraine has showed us that thousand of cheap missiles/drones can easily overwhelm a few high precision missiles

[@worldofmix6766]

Iran dismantled those silkworms like 40 years ago, they use Russian style anti-ship missiles

[@bhmdhn]

This is nowhere near enough what Iran would throw at a carrier strike group. Hell, Hamas, a second rate terrorist outfit without any real rocket or ballistic missile manufacturing capabilities, lobbed 5000 rockets at Israel in a concerted strike. Iran has spent the last 4 decades pouring resources into rocket and ballistic missile manufacturing and tech.

[@dwwolf4636]

Is this a use case for an ESSM with a booster ? No guidance needed unlike SM2. And probably 2/cell.

[@xsto01]

thats one mean click bait... i almost had a heart attack. Then i saw it was you.... xD

[@jhnhnry40511]

Once they turn tail and run do you stay engaged.

[@rudi_ghuliani]

The Hornet doesn't have a RAT/equivalent or APU?

[@Dimitris_Datseris]

I believe that the SU 27s in your previous video should’ve been using American supplied AIM- 120 amrams which should be guided by datalink

[@RES915SQD]

AIM-120 is not compatible with Su-27. That would take significant changes to electronic systems and wing pylons on the planes.

[@tbonr87]

@@RES915SQDyou’d think that somebody took the time to write that comment would have known that 😅

[@raz4371]

A orc can only dream

[@Dimitris_Datseris]

You realise that you could say the same thing about harm missiles, oh wait, we literally have video evidence of western equipment being compatible with old soviet equipment , also the aircraft doesn’t even have to guide the missile the aircraft just has to fire the missile , which is as easy as firing unguided rockets and you just have to press the button to fire, the missle the missile will guide through datalink

[@brianwesley28]

​@@raz4371The Su-27's of the previous video were Ukrainian. Russia had four Su-35's.

[@acebubbles5023]

1.4 billion isn’t terrible considering how much it’d cost to replace all of those ships, planes, etc.

[@foxglow6798]

This video suddenly became a bit more relevant in the past week or so

[@vintagespeedshop]

The big problem with this is Iran could never get anywhere near that amount of armament condensed without being detected by NATO. This is just stupid pie in the sky.

[@bryantmay4299]

Thing is the carrier and other ships don't sit still , they move constantly so by time get cords and shoot missile the carrier and other ships have moved

[@timjouwstra]

Two days later a US destroyer actually gets attacked by some drones and missiles.

[@killermoney1511]

cost to defeat a cheap attack is crazy